[RBW] Re: NAHBS
Urban Velo does a great job photographing bikes at the show: http://urbanvelo.org/nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:32:36 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: sweet! anyone know if theres a ride to NAHMBS Sunday? I'll be riding up Saturday and checking out the show. Staying with my brother in Davis then planning to ride Sunday to the convention center from Davis in the Sunday. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ruGYYPZEb4wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NAHBS
For instance, behold this double top-tube bike: http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpg On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Urban Velo does a great job photographing bikes at the show: http://urbanvelo.org/nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:32:36 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: sweet! anyone know if theres a ride to NAHMBS Sunday? I'll be riding up Saturday and checking out the show. Staying with my brother in Davis then planning to ride Sunday to the convention center from Davis in the Sunday. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3BuuJ-gCEIgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nahbs 2012 - a set on Flickr
Some photos and a little video from yesterday at the NAHBS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157629135526796/with/6802131526/ Enjoy! --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] NAHBS
I'll be wearing my Riv cap and perhaps a pin.
Getting ready to hit the road with the family...
René
On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Tom M wrote:
For instance, behold this double top-tube bike:
http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpg
On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote:
Urban Velo does a great job photographing bikes at the show:
http://urbanvelo.org/**nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/http://urbanvelo.org/nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/
.
On Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:32:36 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
sweet! anyone know if theres a ride to NAHMBS Sunday? I'll be riding
up Saturday and checking out the show. Staying with my brother in
Davis then planning to ride Sunday to the convention center from Davis
in the Sunday.
-Manny
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Re: [RBW] Nahbs 2012 - a set on Flickr
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[RBW] A few shots from NAHBS
I stopped by the show for a short bit on Friday, to say hi to some builders I've known over the years. My shots are not the greatest quality, but see below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629499867669/with/6948065325/ A few comments: The show was kind of overwhelming for this old dog. But, great to see some old and new faces, and reacquaint old contacts. The show was more about saying hi and connecting for me, so I apologize I don't have a lot of technical bike content. But, anyway, here goes: The Six Eleven -- Aaron and Michelle - - a very nice young couple. Their bikes are not terribly flashy (that's a good thing), but have a solid, classid appeal. Vendetta and Six Eleven, along with Shamrock, are on the top of my list after talking with them. Vendetta - very much enjoyed talking with Conor and Garrett. Low-key, knowledgeable. Their purple bike ought to be in contention for best in show, ATMO. And speaking of ATMO (Sachs): nice chat with Richard S. He's so knowledgeable and gracious, recalled the details of the frame he built for me (and our discussions) from back in 2003. A very interesting fellow. Roland Della Santa - - this guy is great. No b.s., quick turnaround, should get the award for Framebuilder Least Likely to be Lampooned on the TV Show Portlandia. Tony Pereira - - also a gem of a fellow, with jewel-like bikes. ATMO, he's the real deal - - solid builder, no b.s., beautiful stuff. A regular guy who builds very cool stuff. Mo Rebolledo - - local boy makes good - - another really nice guy. The paint schemes on his bikes are classic, lovely, and unique. Shamrock - - another very knowledgeable guy (Tim), great to talk with. Beautiful work. Tom Ritchey - - never met him, not likely I ever will -- he looked like a rock star with the crowd three-deep around him. Wanted to ask him about one of his limited editions, but the crowd was just too deep in his booth. Happy to see Ritchey is now producing nice new silver seatposts, handlebars, and stems. The Brooks Saddles booth looked like an over-the-top set from Portlandia. The whole knickers, tweed, and handlebar moustache thing... I'm just sayin. Still, Brooks is Brooks, and I love their stuff. Hope those that made it to the show had a good time. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Weight
My custom Riv was built for all-round road riding with possible light touring. Do-it-all. (Sidebar: this was because I'd always been used to having only one bike so it didn't occur to me to have different- purpose bikes.) The Riv always seemed very light to me compared to the other steel bikes I'd owned. Still does. I now have an old Univega for a beater, and it sure seems heavier. One day I happened to notice the shop where they service the Riv had a bike scale. It turned out to be 26 lbs unladen. I had it in my mind that it was lighter than that, but so what? It's definitely light by my own comparisons, and no other bike I've owned has been such a joy to ride. On Mar 2, 2:45 pm, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks the responses. Consider me off the ledge but still investigating the possibility of a more stripped down bike. The pictured bike is my one and only and as set up serves me well in that regard. City riding, work out rides, 80+ mile all day fun rides, hauling the kid to school in the trailer, that tour I keep putting off... - Ryan On Friday, March 2, 2012 11:12:04 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: The only question is how does it ride? Everything else is just noise. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes You must be the change you want to see in the world. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Still looking for 64 SH, 62 Hunq, 64 Bomba, 67 AHH
I'm sold. I just don't have the money for a new one right now. So I'm looking for a used Riv. If I don't find one soon I'm going to break down and buy a 64cm Surly LHT but it will likely be too small. Save me from this fate! I'm 95-96cm in the PBH. Comfortable with a seat height of 83 - 84cm. I'm looking to do some commuting and short ( 1 week) tours. Fire roads, back roads, etc. Seems like a lot of Rivs would fit the bill. According to Keven@Riv the following frames would work: 64cm Sam Hillborne 62cm Hunqapillar 64cm Bombadil 67cm AHH Do you have a Riv you want to sell? Drop me a line if so. 'til soon, Jared -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Weight
I actually have 2 pairs of those old aerolite pedals and brand new cleats, I love them. Willing to sell one pair if anyone is interested. Started riding on them back in the eighties, they were my first set of clipless pedals. I have since moved on to Look KEO pedals but my aerolites will forever keep a special place in my heart. I am keeping at least my one pair. Come on light bikes are fun, so are light motorcycles and light cars. All for one reason, they go fast. My fat man bike is fun too. But its not anywhere near the same thing. Scott On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Behold this: http://antranik.org/worlds-lightest-road-bike-at-2-7kg/ *And* it is laterally stiff and vertically compliant! *And* it has those coveted Aerolite pedals! (Which I have held in these my little hands but never ridden; have also held a NOS Cyclo, which I'd like to see on this bike.) *And* it has a real ass hatchet for the saddle!!! *And* the bar position will offend Grant!!! Reviewed by the mighty and wise BSNYC today, who also outs Grant's book. Patrick hyperventilating!!! Moore who arbitrarily draws the line for light at about 20 lb and for heavy at about 30 lb. Just 'cause. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Weight
And friction! Couldn't you save a (relatively large) amount of weight by having the rear cassette be 8 gears? But then that wouldn't be modern, would it? On Friday, March 2, 2012 8:18:47 PM UTC-6, Aaron Thomas wrote: Grant might not like how low the bars are, but maybe he'd like the fact it has downtube shifters. Or maybe not Aaron On Friday, March 2, 2012 5:03:30 PM UTC-8, Brad Gantt wrote: I rode Aerolite pedals for about 8 years on various bikes including a whippy, thin-walled aluminum Vitus replete with a full Superbe Pro kit. Stolen later it was. On Friday, March 2, 2012 1:11:54 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Behold this: http://antranik.org/worlds-lightest-road-bike-at-2-7kg/ *And* it is laterally stiff and vertically compliant! *And* it has those coveted Aerolite pedals! (Which I have held in these my little hands but never ridden; have also held a NOS Cyclo, which I'd like to see on this bike.) *And* it has a real ass hatchet for the saddle!!! *And* the bar position will offend Grant!!! Reviewed by the mighty and wise BSNYC today, who also outs Grant's book. Patrick hyperventilating!!! Moore who arbitrarily draws the line for light at about 20 lb and for heavy at about 30 lb. Just 'cause. On Friday, March 2, 2012 5:03:30 PM UTC-8, Brad Gantt wrote: I rode Aerolite pedals for about 8 years on various bikes including a whippy, thin-walled aluminum Vitus replete with a full Superbe Pro kit. Stolen later it was. On Friday, March 2, 2012 1:11:54 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Behold this: http://antranik.org/worlds-lightest-road-bike-at-2-7kg/ *And* it is laterally stiff and vertically compliant! *And* it has those coveted Aerolite pedals! (Which I have held in these my little hands but never ridden; have also held a NOS Cyclo, which I'd like to see on this bike.) *And* it has a real ass hatchet for the saddle!!! *And* the bar position will offend Grant!!! Reviewed by the mighty and wise BSNYC today, who also outs Grant's book. Patrick hyperventilating!!! Moore who arbitrarily draws the line for light at about 20 lb and for heavy at about 30 lb. Just 'cause. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sdu5QWciDwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NAHBS
Bill, I saw that Riv at the Selle Anatomica booth. Anyway, there are some really beautiful steel bikes. Its my second chance at the NAHBS show( 1st was San Jose). This show is always great. Don C. On Friday, March 2, 2012 7:57:06 PM UTC-8, Bill M. wrote: The ride tomorrow morning apparently leaves from de Vere's pub at 15th and L st (1521 L), mrrting up at 8:30. I'll try to be there a bit ahead of that. During the show you'll probably see me in a black and white wool jersey from Shamrock Cycles (bought that today), and a houndstooth Walz cap. Lots of beautiful bikes to see, including a Homer at Selle Anatomica's booth. Bill Mennuti On Mar 2, 6:51 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I have a three day pass. I'll be there today and at least a part of Saturday. No particular plans for Sunday. Saturday there's a ride scheduled to leave at 8:30 from a pub out to the bike museum in Davis and back that I'd like to do. I'll be on my green Riv Road with a green Carradice Barley. Bill Mennuti On Mar 1, 7:39 pm, Dave Faller davefaller...@gmail.com wrote: Last chance to connect with like-minded Riv-heads. ANYONE else gonna make it to the show? If you do, try to make yourself known. A pin, a t-shirt, a hat. Maybe you're a Yehuda look-alike. It would be fun to meet folks from the group. I don't know about you, but I plan on taking way too many photos, and I hope to link the gang to a Flickr fest some time afterward. Hope to see some of you there! Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ej_x6LVxJLMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A few shots from NAHBS
Thanks for posting. The Ritchey commemorative bike looks awesome (though I'm not crazy about the massive Classic decal on the top tube). The Della Santa and Rebolledo stuff is refreshingly classic -- no fuss, no muss. It is interesting to see that a lot of the road bikes in your set were designed for standard reach brakes and displayed with Challenge Parigi-Roubaix. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 9:22:03 AM UTC-8, reynoldslugs wrote: I stopped by the show for a short bit on Friday, to say hi to some builders I've known over the years. My shots are not the greatest quality, but see below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629499867669/with/6948065325/ A few comments: The show was kind of overwhelming for this old dog. But, great to see some old and new faces, and reacquaint old contacts. The show was more about saying hi and connecting for me, so I apologize I don't have a lot of technical bike content. But, anyway, here goes: The Six Eleven -- Aaron and Michelle - - a very nice young couple. Their bikes are not terribly flashy (that's a good thing), but have a solid, classid appeal. Vendetta and Six Eleven, along with Shamrock, are on the top of my list after talking with them. Vendetta - very much enjoyed talking with Conor and Garrett. Low-key, knowledgeable. Their purple bike ought to be in contention for best in show, ATMO. And speaking of ATMO (Sachs): nice chat with Richard S. He's so knowledgeable and gracious, recalled the details of the frame he built for me (and our discussions) from back in 2003. A very interesting fellow. Roland Della Santa - - this guy is great. No b.s., quick turnaround, should get the award for Framebuilder Least Likely to be Lampooned on the TV Show Portlandia. Tony Pereira - - also a gem of a fellow, with jewel-like bikes. ATMO, he's the real deal - - solid builder, no b.s., beautiful stuff. A regular guy who builds very cool stuff. Mo Rebolledo - - local boy makes good - - another really nice guy. The paint schemes on his bikes are classic, lovely, and unique. Shamrock - - another very knowledgeable guy (Tim), great to talk with. Beautiful work. Tom Ritchey - - never met him, not likely I ever will -- he looked like a rock star with the crowd three-deep around him. Wanted to ask him about one of his limited editions, but the crowd was just too deep in his booth. Happy to see Ritchey is now producing nice new silver seatposts, handlebars, and stems. The Brooks Saddles booth looked like an over-the-top set from Portlandia. The whole knickers, tweed, and handlebar moustache thing... I'm just sayin. Still, Brooks is Brooks, and I love their stuff. Hope those that made it to the show had a good time. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-gOA742H1FoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] NAHBS
If it's not too warm I'll be in my wool San Francisco Randonneurs jersey, A.H.H. visor, and my 10 yer old son in tow. Saturday afternoon. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:59:25 AM UTC-8, René wrote: I'll be wearing my Riv cap and perhaps a pin. Getting ready to hit the road with the family... René On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Tom M wrote: For instance, behold this double top-tube bike: http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpg On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Urban Velo does a great job photographing bikes at the show: http://urbanvelo.org/**nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/http://urbanvelo.org/nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/ . On Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:32:36 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: sweet! anyone know if theres a ride to NAHMBS Sunday? I'll be riding up Saturday and checking out the show. Staying with my brother in Davis then planning to ride Sunday to the convention center from Davis in the Sunday. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3BuuJ-gCEIgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/umrjj1GVzAMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fwd: [BOB] Pedals and Tires 4 sale.
-- Forwarded message -- From: clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [BOB] Pedals and Tires 4 sale. To: internet-bob internet-...@googlegroups.com Toe clips are all that remain. Thanks to all who responded. Buy my toe clips. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, ccanter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow cyclers..Time to find new home(s) for the following: A box of toe clips for the price of one decent pair. includes 1 pair chrome steel size large with leather covers 1 pair alloy MKS with leather covers...these appear brand new.size large 1 pair chrome steel size LL 1 pair double eye resin MTB clips 1 pair single eye resin (Roadie) 1 pair Soma Double eye, double gate (one of the eyes got broken off so this is really only one clip) Most have the mounting hardware attached. How's about $25 dollars for the lot? Shipping is not included. If the price(s) seem out of line I am open to barter. I prefer not to break up sets...ie...selling tires individually etc. I'm also open to trades. Some things I would consider: MKS Silvan touring pedal...the wide ones. Jack Brown tires (green or blue) Wide 700c tires. What you got? I may be slow to respond this weekend, but I should be near the PC tomorrow. Thanks for looking, Clyde -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Still looking for 64 SH, 62 Hunq, 64 Bomba, 67 AHH
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Jared Volpe jaredvo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sold. I just don't have the money for a new one right now. So I'm looking for a used Riv. If I don't find one soon I'm going to break down and buy a 64cm Surly LHT but it will likely be too small. Save me from this fate! I'm 95-96cm in the PBH. Comfortable with a seat height of 83 - 84cm. I'm looking to do some commuting and short ( 1 week) tours. Fire roads, back roads, etc. Seems like a lot of Rivs would fit the bill. According to Keven@Riv the following frames would work: 64cm Sam Hillborne 62cm Hunqapillar 64cm Bombadil 67cm AHH It's not mine and I don't know the advert but there is a 64cm atlantis up in seattle. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2871947824.html -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Weight
Gravity Knob! I've thought about weighing my bikes, but usually don't. Any upgrades I've ever done to them have added weight. Fenders, dynohubs, racks, leather saddles. Drop bars. I'm looking to move back to the Bay Area, where I can get by with narrower tires, since the roads are better, and maybe have one road bike without fenders. I do want to photo-document each bike - weight, equipment, etc. so I can refer back to it next Spring and see what I've done in 2012. I wish I had that to look back on for the last 10 years, so the best way to have that in the future is to start now. Anyway - digression within digression. My Quickbeam rides differently, and I ride it differently, with 40mm tires, metal fenders, front basket, dyno hub and flat pedals than I did with 28mm tires and Eggbeaters on NJS track wheels. But how much does the gravity knob weigh? Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com www.philipwilliamson.com On Mar 2, 2:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: If that's what he means, then, um, OK. All I said about weight was about sweating the grams of chainring bolts. If Z-man thinks that you start to feel the weight of your chainring bolts when you start climbing up a hill, then wow. Of course weight matters. I like music, so I'm willing to carry an iPod or even a harmonica on my bike. I'm not willing to carry a piano. Why? Because it's too heavy. Weight matters. If there was a gravity knob on your bike that allowed you to dial down the weight for free, you'd turn it. Why? Because lighter is usually better, if it's free. In real life, light weight usually has its costs. Either it costs not bringing something that you might want, or it costs money, or it costs something else like work, or looks, or a perceived downgrade in reliability. Those who say weight doesn't matter are those that are really saying I could go lighter, but don't want to, because of the cost. On Friday, March 2, 2012 2:42:14 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: I think what he means: Weight doesn't matter so much, until you come to a hill climb... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Light weight! (And Low Bars!)
(That ought to raise hackles!) I just did a nice out and back on the Rio Grande bosque trail (the paved one) on the (Riv, fixed) gofast and boy did it feel good. A strong, gusty (NW 20 gusts to 28 per NWS at 1:56 pm for 87120) somewhat mitigated for much of the route by the trees lining the path, so a nice spin southbound and a slog in the hooks on the return. 75 gear: I do have a 17/66 on the flip side but I usually ignore it and did so today. It is **very** appealing to find your groove -- just the right amount of effort that takes you to the brink of anaerobic but not over it and lets you, therefore, maintain the effort and pace in comfort but still pedaling energetically. I didn't time myself because that is a drag (didn't used to be). The Riv with the Grand Bois Maes Parallels is **just right** with bar some 3 cm below saddle: I rode in the hooks with elbows bent for 8 or 9 of the return 11 miles. These are wonderful bars if you can get by with nothing wider than a 39 cm at the hoods (they do flare a bit at the ends). Mine are either 37s or 38s and for my long (Asian) torso'd 5' 10 they are just right. The 650CX23 mm Conti GPs, if judiciously inflated, are surprisingly cushy (I favor roughly 90 psi, a bit lower in front) on the tree root upheavals, but the path is pretty smooth except for these and these are mostly south of Central/66; not as cushy as the 559X1.35 Kojaks on the other Riv but still very nice -- I realize that this depends on weight; I am a rather hefty 175; could stand to lose 20 lb, well, that was my college graduation weight; let's just say 165 would be nice at 57. If you want **harsh** over inflate your Big Apples: the 622X60s at 45/50 are damn' hard! (Even worse: 1.25 Fatboys inflated to the sidewall 110 psi: bricks!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nahbs 2012 - a set on Flickr
Thanks, this is serious drool-stuff indeed! Love the integrated stem/headlight, among many other things here. Steve On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:48:52 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Some photos and a little video from yesterday at the NAHBS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157629135526796/with/6802131526/ Enjoy! --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tS4MM7g0zDIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nahbs 2012 - a set on Flickr
Thanks for sharing, Eric! I have also been immersed in the 650+ photo set from Joel Greenblatt (hey, cool last name!) of Clockwork Bikes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28879558@N04/sets/72157629499390397/with/6948030883/ Seems like a great show this year, with lots of interesting and beautiful bikes. - David Yu Greenblatt, Madison WI On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Some photos and a little video from yesterday at the NAHBS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157629135526796/with/6802131526/ Enjoy! --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Lugged steel road frameset for sale
Not necessarily Riv-like. It is very Bridgestone RB-1 like, though. My custom Davidson is up on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/260970814484?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 It's lugged steel and MUSA, so there's that. I'm replacing it with a road frame that takes wider tires and fenders. This won't take anything wider than a 700x25, although I did use it for a time with 650x33B. More photos of complete bike setup(s) on request. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WS4cgWgxOekJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning, Small Parts
Still have the cork grips? (apologies that I can't seem to reply off list from my phone) Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rdPfoyIO174J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Mavic/Phil Wood Touring Wheels
Great loaded touring wheels: Mavic T519 and T520, 40 front 48 rear. Phill Wood front hub 40, rear Phil Wood 48 7spd threaded freewheel 130mm. DT 14/15g spokes. Maybe 3,200 hard surface miles on these wheels with approx. 25 miles on wet surface. I don't ride in the rain, therefore much less wear on brake surface. They are as true as I could ever imagine a wheel could be. I also have a NIB Mavic T520 (maybe T519, same) 48 hole rim. Two wheels price $400 plus actual shipping cost. One NIB rim price $75 plus actual shipping cost. Local pick up in Montara, CA is perfect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] NAHBS
I only ran across one Riv rider all day, when I went to pick up my bike... (well, two... one vendor told me that she had one...) He was riding an Atlantis, kind of a lime green color. Told me a story about how there'd been a mixup in the custom colors and the painter had painted the wrong bike. Wearing my Rivendell T-shirt did get a lot of attention though... unfortunately most of the attention was from people asking if I worked for Rivendell. Happy thought, but it made me wonder if I was a good representative for those who didn't ask and just assumed. :-) Lots of beautiful bikes there, and I did ride the AHH at the Selle Anatomica booth to try the saddle! I have to say, the AHH feels much more at home on the road than on a trainer! On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: If it's not too warm I'll be in my wool San Francisco Randonneurs jersey, A.H.H. visor, and my 10 yer old son in tow. Saturday afternoon. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:59:25 AM UTC-8, René wrote: I'll be wearing my Riv cap and perhaps a pin. Getting ready to hit the road with the family... René On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Tom M wrote: For instance, behold this double top-tube bike: http://urbanvelo.org/** wordpress/wp-content/uploads/**2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpghttp://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpg On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Urban Velo does a great job photographing bikes at the show: http://urbanvelo.org/**nah**bs-2012-image-dump-1/http://urbanvelo.org/nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/ . On Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:32:36 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: sweet! anyone know if theres a ride to NAHMBS Sunday? I'll be riding up Saturday and checking out the show. Staying with my brother in Davis then planning to ride Sunday to the convention center from Davis in the Sunday. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3BuuJ-**gCEIgJhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3BuuJ-gCEIgJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/umrjj1GVzAMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Here's the only Riv bike I recall seeing at the NAHBS. Anybody see another? http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/6948249985/in/set-72157629135526796/ --Eric N -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] NAHBS
Rich Lesnik was there. And after we left my son and I ran into Jay Ritchey and his dad Tom having lunch. Without question the highlight for me was the people that I got to talk with. I did take about 50 pictures of bikes, though: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/ Joseph Ahearne was a real nice guy. His designs are really exploring new space. He had a snow bike, and a Monster Tour, and an urban mixte with a kiddie seat on the back. I interrupted Tom Ritchey's lunch and yet he kept asking me questions about my reactions to the show. The free beer and 40 Anniversary Ritchey pint glass was a touch I didn't mind telling him I appreciated. It was really great to see Jay, since I didn't get to say goodbye to him when he moved to Arizona Mitch Pryor was also a real good guy. I admire his earnest motivation to keep MAP a one-man-show. He's young but he's got a wise vibe to himself. Of the young turks I have to say he might be my favorite Steve Rex made the effort to come out, despite the massive 8 blocks of travel from his showroom to the convention center. I'd say it is extraordinarily likely I'll be buying a frameset from Steve in the near future. He's a pro, knows his niche, and does delicious and clean work. Jay Sycip heads up Cielo (Chris King). I really like his passion for the real end to end craft of bike making. His fire for his ideas is really infectious and inspiring. I had a nice long talk with the son of the founder of White Industries. I've talked a lot about the ultimate compact double crankset. I'm saving up for a 48/32 VBC crankset, after discussing a couple details with him that I'd never noticed before. Turns out Stevil Knevil of All Hail The Black Market is a very old friend of mine. It was kind of a high-school-reunion kind of moment. I had no idea that he was him. We only got about 3 hours but it was a thrilling afternoon. It was a good day to spend with my son. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:28:01 PM UTC-8, Rex Kerr wrote: I only ran across one Riv rider all day, when I went to pick up my bike... (well, two... one vendor told me that she had one...) He was riding an Atlantis, kind of a lime green color. Told me a story about how there'd been a mixup in the custom colors and the painter had painted the wrong bike. Wearing my Rivendell T-shirt did get a lot of attention though... unfortunately most of the attention was from people asking if I worked for Rivendell. Happy thought, but it made me wonder if I was a good representative for those who didn't ask and just assumed. :-) Lots of beautiful bikes there, and I did ride the AHH at the Selle Anatomica booth to try the saddle! I have to say, the AHH feels much more at home on the road than on a trainer! On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: If it's not too warm I'll be in my wool San Francisco Randonneurs jersey, A.H.H. visor, and my 10 yer old son in tow. Saturday afternoon. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:59:25 AM UTC-8, René wrote: I'll be wearing my Riv cap and perhaps a pin. Getting ready to hit the road with the family... René On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Tom M wrote: For instance, behold this double top-tube bike: http://urbanvelo.org/** wordpress/wp-content/uploads/**2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpghttp://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nahbs_2012_50.jpg On Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote: Urban Velo does a great job photographing bikes at the show: http://urbanvelo.org/**nah**bs-2012-image-dump-1/http://urbanvelo.org/nahbs-2012-image-dump-1/ . On Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:32:36 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: sweet! anyone know if theres a ride to NAHMBS Sunday? I'll be riding up Saturday and checking out the show. Staying with my brother in Davis then planning to ride Sunday to the convention center from Davis in the Sunday. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3BuuJ-**gCEIgJhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3BuuJ-gCEIgJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.** com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/umrjj1GVzAMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
[RBW] Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I only saw Rich and bought a T-shirt for my son from Jon. His drawings are great! I guess my RBW cap wasn't noticed... ;-) I had never seen so many beautiful lugged steel bikes together! Even my wife was taken in by the whole show. Art, she called it. She had resigned herself to a boring several hours tagging along to ensure I didn't buy anything, but was awed by the experience. And did buy me a couple of wool cycling caps! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] NAHBS
I only saw Rich and bought a T-shirt for my son from John Grant. His drawings are great! I guess my RBW cap wasn't noticed... ;-) I had never seen so many beautiful lugged steel bikes together! Even my wife was taken in by the whole show. Art, she called it. She had resigned herself to a boring several hours tagging along to ensure I didn't buy anything, but was awed by the experience. And did buy me a couple of wool cycling caps! I loved Steve Rex's winner bike and how he put it together. Not flashy at all like some of the other ones, but such attention to details. The rear rack blew me away. When I'm ready for a custom, I may order it from him. Someday... Keven and Jay recommended him to me to replace the down tube braze-on that I has messed up and he did that a while back while I waited. Great guy and great bikes. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] NAHBS
I'll join the fun: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/6951308077/in/set-72157629507490071/ I'll probably delete most of the set in a week or so because I hit my 200 picture limit for the free version of flickr. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
