[RBW] FS: 3 Pari Moto 650b tires for $120 shipped

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi all,

I am selling 3 Pari Moto 650b tires for $120 shipped.  One is brand
new. The other one looks brand new and was my front tire for 600
miles.  The tread looks unworn to my eye and there are still a couple
of the new tire rubber pieces sticking up in the middle. The third
tire was my rear tire for 600 miles. The tread is visibly worn down
about 1 cm wide in the center of this tire, but should have at least
another 600-1000 miles left in this tire (the Pari Motos are fast
performance tires with very little tread to begin with). The tires
have never flatted. I would be happy to take pictures if desired.

Toshi in Oakland, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Avocet O2 womens

[Mojo]

Joe, the one I recently bought, though NOS, had steel rails. You wouldn't 
have liked it.
Good Luck!

On Monday, December 17, 2012 5:49:09 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Riv Gang 
>
> In the name of holiday surprises, does anyone have a spare Avocet O2 
> women's saddle as spare, preferably Ti rails? 
>
> Thanks, and happy holidaze... 
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>

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Re: [RBW] A unTypical Ride

[grant]

Clarification on "typical ride": It's a ride I do in some variation thirty 
or forty times a year, but the paved part (the grunt up to the water tower) 
is one I do a few times a week before or after work, depending on the 
season and weather. Even tho this ride is minutes away from me (from my 
house I can be at the high point in the  hills in less than 18 
minutes)...but the point I want to make is that I had a great time on the 
ride, as gooda time as anybody, even though I knew the route. Great 
company, and it's more fun to ride with guys like that. Amit said he'd 
never ridden trails like that, and he did great. Jim and Joe were on fairly 
skinny tires, no matter. Sean climbed a climb I've made it up only about 
twelve times, and he did it the first time he ever saw or rode it. (I will 
credit "good traction, no loose soil", but he is clearly a good climber. I 
think the 2TT helped. <---yes, a joke there, c'mon... Manny as always took 
tons of neat pictures. He is a real, real, real cycling 
photographer...doesn't miss a beat, doesn't make anybody else  miss beats, 
and he shoots great shots. All fun...

On Monday, December 17, 2012 7:43:02 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Great description and slideshow!  So, contrary to the subject, for Grant 
> this actually is a "typical ride"? 
>
> On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 07:22 -0800, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
> > Amit was/is in town. We went riding. Not really knowing where to go 
> > with the overcasted  weather I figured Diablo can't disappoint for 
> > someone who never rode to the top. So I called some Rivendell guys and 
> > soon it was on. Plan was to meet at Rivendell after hours and ride to 
> > the top of Mt.Diablo. Amit was on amtrak time constraint so the ride 
> > had to be short and sweet. But like most trips at Rivendell things 
> > don't always go as planned. When we were ready to go, I asked Grant if 
> > he wanted to join us. He told us, "Well I'm have other things to do 
> > but I'm going to do a short ride that I always do before or after 
> > work." Figured since Amit needed to catch his train Grant's shorter 
> > ride seemed best. So a bunch of us tagged along with Grant while he 
> > went on his "typical ride". The ride was shortish but the hills were 
> > grunty. Through the twist and turns of the lovely homes of Walnut 
> > Creek Grant takes us through a couple of sections of dirt. Reaching to 
> > the very top of the ride we ended up kinda of stuck due to the trail 
> > being closed. So without really making a big deal about it Grant just 
> > walks off the trail down the hill. We follow suit and continue along 
> > our way. After a couple of turns and descents we make it way back to 
> > towards Bart. Grant tells us, "Well I'm going home now if you want to 
> > go to Bart just go that way."  Joe, Jim and Sean decided to keep going 
> > while Amit, Will and I have to cut the ride short and catch a train. 
> > And usually this happens on rides that I do. Most of it is made up 
> > with no destination. Usually we ride till we don't want to. We ride 
> > with the sense of adventure, exploration and a little bit of 
> > recklessness. Thanks to Grant for allowing us to tag along. Amit is 
> > here for a bit so expect so more shots of him before the year is 
> > over. 
> > 
> > 
> > Pictures proved that pizza is good biking fuel: 
> > http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDdQWmk 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Manny "I guess we go with Grant" Acosta 
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[RBW] Picnic Furniture That Packs Onto A Bike

[Eric Norris]

Just the thing for those S24Os? 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet upcoming build

[Kelly]

I know it is a weird gearing My thought process was .. 38 in front for 
almost all my riding.   The 24 and 50 would be used equally little.  the 24 
on steep steep steep stuff and when tired.. but only with the top 3 in the 
back.   The 50 on flat fast rides behind tandems and in pace lines at 25 to 
30 mph and again on big down hills where I want to spin out tuck and head 
to those 50 to 60 mph downhills.. here again very  little riding there.   
Thus in my mind giving me a great all around middle and on flats and down 
hills leave it in the 50. 

On my homer with the 46/36/24 and like the bailout of the 24, thought the 
middle 36 was just a hair to easy and end up in the 46 most the time with 
the top end running out faster than I like.  I have an 11/25 on the rear.  

Hopefully it doesn't act up much..   I also run friction most the time.   I 
hope I'm correct that I can change rings on this guy.  

Note to that my  carbon bikes I was running a 53/39 and an 11/27 .. on 
flats behind tandems  at 35 mph and on flat go fast week night rides I was 
in the 53/11 often.  I'm also a lower cadence rider.. usually between 80 
and 90.  

My thinking may be all goofy... which wouldn't be the first time.

:)

On Monday, December 17, 2012 8:43:30 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Your gearing choices are quite unusual.  A crank with a difference of 26 
> will require a very long cage derailler and is not only likely to make for 
> very slow front shifts but also imprecise rear shifts.  Your big gear 50/11 
> is 123 GIs, which is a category 1 sprinting gear.  If you feel you must 
> have a 24/28 then perhaps you might re-evaluate the need for a 50/11.  I 
> run my Ram  with a 44/30 and 11-28 which gives me all but one high gear 
> equivalent of a standard racing triple but still allows me to use a tighter 
> derailler, the new RD 6700 Ultegra.  Shifts great.
>
> Michael
>
> On Monday, December 17, 2012 3:13:49 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below. 
>>  My questions / quest for others opinions would be this.  I'm building this 
>> as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3 
>> State 3 Mountain Challenge.  
>> I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year.
>>
>> I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and 
>> to a point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides.   (note 
>> that a part of this build is for aesthetics.   Thus the nice silver stuff 
>> and classic look (hopefully)
>>
>> Still debating with myself about derailleurs -  XT or 105  Rear (or other 
>> choice with better look)  Front is really up in the air but looks like 
>> Shimano again 
>>
>> Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I 
>> get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards 
>> down tube.
>> If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the 
>> shift cables all the way to the stem?  Did the extra bends effect shifting 
>> noticeably?   I think it would work and have a different look. 
>>
>>
>>  Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape. 
>>
>> Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs?  Good or Bad 
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.. 
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today
>> Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet
>> VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke
>> New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet.
>> René Herse Triple Crank   
>> 50-38-24 On the bench
>> SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk
>> Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 
>> mm - 
>> On the bench
>> Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0 - On 
>> the bench
>> Nitto Noodle Handlebar - On 
>> the bench
>> TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers - 
>> on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she went back to sti's.
>> Side Pull Brakes- on the bench
>> Thin Gripster pedals - on the 
>> bench
>> Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift-  shipped
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
>> E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet upcoming build

[Leslie]

Interesting  I'm running a 53/39/30 crank on my Ram (it's a Dura Ace 
Octalink crank), with a 9sp 11-32 rear... XT SGS long cage in the rear, and an 
Ultegra triple front.  I think it shifts more precisely, cleanly and quickly 
than my Sugino XD 48/36/24 that's paired with a 9sp 11-34... (Same XT rear SGS, 
but has an LX triple up front instead).  (Both set-ups are running standard 
Shimano 9sp bar-end shifters...)

FWIW...

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[RBW] What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Boogarich]

My purchases are:

Nitto Handlebar Rack F15 - $70.00   
Sackville Barsack - Olive - $175.00
IRD Stem Quill Shifter Mount - $50.00
Ankle Reflector - $10.00
 
Destination: Surly Trucker Deluxe.

If I win: A fast custom road bike (I'll need to lose 40 pounds).

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet upcoming build

[Michael Hechmer]

Your gearing choices are quite unusual.  A crank with a difference of 26 
will require a very long cage derailler and is not only likely to make for 
very slow front shifts but also imprecise rear shifts.  Your big gear 50/11 
is 123 GIs, which is a category 1 sprinting gear.  If you feel you must 
have a 24/28 then perhaps you might re-evaluate the need for a 50/11.  I 
run my Ram  with a 44/30 and 11-28 which gives me all but one high gear 
equivalent of a standard racing triple but still allows me to use a tighter 
derailler, the new RD 6700 Ultegra.  Shifts great.

Michael

On Monday, December 17, 2012 3:13:49 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
>
>
> I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below. 
>  My questions / quest for others opinions would be this.  I'm building this 
> as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3 
> State 3 Mountain Challenge.  
> I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year.
>
> I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to 
> a point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides.   (note 
> that a part of this build is for aesthetics.   Thus the nice silver stuff 
> and classic look (hopefully)
>
> Still debating with myself about derailleurs -  XT or 105  Rear (or other 
> choice with better look)  Front is really up in the air but looks like 
> Shimano again 
>
> Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I 
> get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards 
> down tube.
> If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the 
> shift cables all the way to the stem?  Did the extra bends effect shifting 
> noticeably?   I think it would work and have a different look. 
>
>
>  Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape. 
>
> Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs?  Good or Bad 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.. 
>
> Kelly
>
> 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today
> Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet
> VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke
> New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet.
> René Herse Triple Crank   
> 50-38-24 On the bench
> SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk
> Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 
> mm - 
> On the bench
> Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0 - On 
> the bench
> Nitto Noodle Handlebar - On the 
> bench
> TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers - 
> on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she went back to sti's.
> Side Pull Brakes- on the bench
> Thin Gripster pedals - on the 
> bench
> Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift-  shipped
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
> E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet upcoming build

[dougP]

Kelly:

Regarding running bar end shift cable housing along the handlebars:  my 
wife's Atlantis came with the housings under the tape all the way to the 
end near the stem, & it works perfectly (8 speed Ultegra indexed bar 
ends).  Over the years, I've exited the housing from under the tape in 
various places to avoid conflicts with the different front bags I've used, 
and never had any problems.  I've even let the housing just dangle, exiting 
only a wrap or 2 from the shifter.   

One irritant I've never resolved is keeping the housings from contacting 
the head tube.  Over time, black housing leaves smudgy looking marks on the 
creme head tube that are difficult to remove.  White housing would solve 
that problem.  

dougP

On Monday, December 17, 2012 12:13:49 PM UTC-8, Kelly wrote:
>
>
> I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below. 
>  My questions / quest for others opinions would be this.  I'm building this 
> as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3 
> State 3 Mountain Challenge.  
> I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year.
>
> I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to 
> a point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides.   (note 
> that a part of this build is for aesthetics.   Thus the nice silver stuff 
> and classic look (hopefully)
>
> Still debating with myself about derailleurs -  XT or 105  Rear (or other 
> choice with better look)  Front is really up in the air but looks like 
> Shimano again 
>
> Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I 
> get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards 
> down tube.
> If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the 
> shift cables all the way to the stem?  Did the extra bends effect shifting 
> noticeably?   I think it would work and have a different look. 
>
>
>  Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape. 
>
> Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs?  Good or Bad 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.. 
>
> Kelly
>
> 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today
> Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet
> VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke
> New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet.
> René Herse Triple Crank   
> 50-38-24 On the bench
> SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk
> Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 
> mm - 
> On the bench
> Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0 - On 
> the bench
> Nitto Noodle Handlebar - On the 
> bench
> TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers - 
> on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she went back to sti's.
> Side Pull Brakes- on the bench
> Thin Gripster pedals - on the 
> bench
> Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift-  shipped
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
> E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Thanks Joe and Jim. Luckily I'm bringing my best mud bike, so hopefully I'll be 
able to ride a little while I'm out there. Looking at Manny's recent group of 
photos has me eager to get to WC! Plus I just got my Mount Diablo trail map in 
the mail today.

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[RBW] WTB: Avocet O2 womens

[Joe Bunik]

Hi Riv Gang

In the name of holiday surprises, does anyone have a spare Avocet O2
women's saddle as spare, preferably Ti rails?

Thanks, and happy holidaze...
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Re: A unTypical Ride

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Good times and great pics... let's party.

On Monday, December 17, 2012 7:22:20 AM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Amit was/is in town. We went riding. Not really knowing where to go with 
> the overcasted  weather I figured Diablo can't disappoint for someone who 
> never rode to the top. So I called some Rivendell guys and soon it was on. 
> Plan was to meet at Rivendell after hours and ride to the top of Mt.Diablo. 
> Amit was on amtrak time constraint so the ride had to be short and sweet. 
> But like most trips at Rivendell things don't always go as planned. When we 
> were ready to go, I asked Grant if he wanted to join us. He told us, "Well 
> I'm have other things to do but I'm going to do a short ride that I always 
> do before or after work." Figured since Amit needed to catch his train 
> Grant's shorter ride seemed best. So a bunch of us tagged along with Grant 
> while he went on his "typical ride". The ride was shortish but the hills 
> were grunty. Through the twist and turns of the lovely homes of Walnut 
> Creek Grant takes us through a couple of sections of dirt. Reaching to the 
> very top of the ride we ended up kinda of stuck due to the trail being 
> closed. So without really making a big deal about it Grant just walks off 
> the trail down the hill. We follow suit and continue along our way. After a 
> couple of turns and descents we make it way back to towards Bart. Grant 
> tells us, "Well I'm going home now if you want to go to Bart just go that 
> way."  Joe, Jim and Sean decided to keep going while Amit, Will and I have 
> to cut the ride short and catch a train. 
> And usually this happens on rides that I do. Most of it is made up with no 
> destination. Usually we ride till we don't want to. We ride with the sense 
> of adventure, exploration and a little bit of recklessness. Thanks to Grant 
> for allowing us to tag along. Amit is here for a bit so expect so more 
> shots of him before the year is over. 
>
> Pictures proved that pizza is good biking fuel:
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDdQWmk
>
>
> -Manny "I guess we go with Grant" Acosta
>

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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Ryan Ray]

I still might order some stuff but the problem is I don't really need 
anything :)

If I do, and win I'd order an xtracycle compatable frame :) I'd of course 
offer to pay the extra fees. If he still said no (99.9% he would 
say no) I'd order a really tall 26" wheel custom Bomba/Hunqa which would 
live the next 10 years of it's life as a kid camping, groceries, cargo bike.

Of course even admitting I would ask for such nonsense means he would kick 
me out of the contest before it began!

- Ryan



On Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:58:13 PM UTC-8, cbone97 wrote:
>
> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
> Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
>
> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
> on fleabay.): 
>
> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
> 2 tubes for 'em 
> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
> Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
> 2 corks 
> total: $300.00 
>
>
> My prize request: 
> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

[numbnuts]

Hey All,
OP here. I enjoyed the conversation. Thanks to all!

Smooth tracks,
Chris
Redding, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Jim Mather]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote:
> Let us know when you'll be around, holiday time will be hectic but
> if'n I'm available I'd be more than happy to show you round 'Nut
> Creek.

Me too. I won't be camping, but I'd be happy to show you around Diablo
if it's not too muddy. Or hang out and drink beer if it is too muddy.

jim "joe's neighbor" m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] A unTypical Ride

[Jim Mather]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Manuel Acosta
 wrote:
> Amit was/is in town. We went riding.

Great to ride with you as always, Manny, and thanks for the photos.

Manny's quite impressive when taking photos while riding -- turning
around in his seat, hanging off the edge -- all to get the best shots.
And  he's stealthy too. Before you know it, you're pained face is on
flickr for all to laugh at.  ;-)

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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Way Rebb]

Yes dynamo, great idea, keep the sextant app on the phone charged when
I hit the water :)

On Dec 17, 2:04 am, IanA  wrote:
> With integrated dynamo wiring and a sail?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:56:30 PM UTC-7, Way Rebb wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of a Sam Hunqa-Pilson that converts into a kayak and I
> > can float down the river.  I'm not sure it's possible :(
>
> > On Dec 16, 3:58 pm, cbone97  wrote:
> > > A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to
> > > enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask
> > > Grant to cook up for me if I win.
>
> > > My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored
> > > on fleabay.):
>
> > > 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires
> > > 2 tubes for 'em
> > > 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar
> > > 8 sp cassette, 11-32t
> > > Sugino XD2, wide/low double
> > > 2 corks
> > > total: $300.00
>
> > > My prize request:
> > > 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube
> > > configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance)

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[RBW] OT, but only a little

[numbnuts]

Hey All,
One of the stated reasons for Riv going to other manufactures in these last 
several years has been the strong yen and the cost of Japanese labor. The 
linked story discusses a major policy shift inside Japan that, if it 
occurs, should substantially devalue the Yen. I thought that some folks 
here might find this of interest.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9751609/Japans-Shinzo-Abe-prepares-to-print-money-for-the-whole-world.html

Smooth Tracks,
Chris
Redding, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Joe Bunik]

Hey Jim

Let us know when you'll be around, holiday time will be hectic but
if'n I'm available I'd be more than happy to show you round 'Nut
Creek. Same offer extends to all travelers - just requires a heads-up.

Happy holidays to all!
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA


On 12/17/12, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery  wrote:
> I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a train,
> with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From
> there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp
> and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of
> course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Matthew J]

Sounds like a good trip in the making.  Northern Cali had been wetter than 
normal a while there but things seem to be drying out.  Their deep winter 
temps are us Midwesterners mild riding weather.

On Monday, December 17, 2012 2:15:26 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
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> I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a train, 
> with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From 
> there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp 
> and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of 
> course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Bruce Herbitter]

Jealous.   Extremely jealous.

Have a GREAT trip.

I am packing up a Riv and heading south (home) to FL for the holiday week.
Family and friends not seen there for a couple of years and I already have
a couple of "Let's ride" invites to catch up on.

Tailwinds



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> with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From
> there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp
> and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of
> course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Eric Platt]

Right now, am probably not going to enter.  Just had an order recently and
while there are a few things that pique interest, not enough stuff to make
a required minimum.

But - if I did and if I were to win - wouldn't take a custom.  Would rather
just get a 61cm Atlantis or maybe a Bombadil.  Either of those bikes would
suit my needs.  Yes, while I'd like a 61cm 26" wheel Atlantis, it's too
much against the whole Rivendell aesthetic to get something like that.

And hopefully, it would save Rivendell a bit of cash which might be
important.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Jeremy Till  wrote:

> My order was a Big Rear Rack for my wife's touring bike, a Sackville
> TrunkSack small for me, and some Nitto Band Clamps to mount a Mark's Rack
> for the aforementioned TrunkSack on my road bike's fork (no braze-ons).
>
> If I were to win I'd get something along the Road lines, with 57mm reach
> brakes with clearance for 28's + fenders or 33-35's without, with better
> geometry than my current road bike (Salsa Casseroll).  I'd let Grant handle
> the tubing choices since I want it to be light-ish and fast but I'm also a
> big guy and like going off-pavement, so not sure I'd want something
> Roadeo-light.  Color would be a hard choice--I've always loved the
> light-ish blues on the old Road Standards, or a solid dark (british
> racing?) green, or something in the dark silvery-pewter range, like Gino's
> old Saluki.
>
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:58:13 PM UTC-8, cbone97 wrote:
>>
>> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to
>> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask
>> Grant to cook up for me if I win.
>>
>> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored
>> on fleabay.):
>>
>> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires
>> 2 tubes for 'em
>> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar
>> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t
>> Sugino XD2, wide/low double
>> 2 corks
>> total: $300.00
>>
>>
>> My prize request:
>> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube
>> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance)
>>
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[RBW] Riv-country visit

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a train, 
with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From 
there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp 
and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of 
course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.

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[RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Kelly]

I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below. 
 My questions / quest for others opinions would be this.  I'm building this 
as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3 
State 3 Mountain Challenge.  
I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year.

I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to 
a point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides.   (note 
that a part of this build is for aesthetics.   Thus the nice silver stuff 
and classic look (hopefully)

Still debating with myself about derailleurs -  XT or 105  Rear (or other 
choice with better look)  Front is really up in the air but looks like 
Shimano again 

Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I 
get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards 
down tube.
If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the shift 
cables all the way to the stem?  Did the extra bends effect shifting 
noticeably?   I think it would work and have a different look. 


 Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape. 

Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs?  Good or Bad 

Thanks for your thoughts.. 

Kelly

68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today
Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet
VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke
New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet.
René Herse Triple Crank   
50-38-24 On the bench
SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk
Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 
mm - 
On the bench
Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0 - On the 
bench
Nitto Noodle Handlebar - On the 
bench
TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers - on 
the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she went back to sti's.
Side Pull Brakes- on the bench
Thin Gripster pedals - on the 
bench
Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift-  shipped
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp

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[RBW] Re: Photos from Today's Ride

[Jim]

Very nice! Thanks for posting these pictures. Rain is heavier today in 
Massachusetts so today's ride will be indoors, on the trainer. 
Jim  D.   Massachusetts

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:18:53 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> A handful of photos from a chilly and damp day's ride.  Before viewing, 
> please note that I rode with cleated shoes/pedals (although I was fully 
> clothed in wool and sat on a Brooks saddle). 
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8279483032/in/set-72157632264462252/lightbox/
>  
>
> --Eric
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW ad on Bike Snob

[Peter Morgano]

Meh, it is free and a 5 minute read down. Its not like its always hilarious
or I read it every single day but when I do I at least get a few chuckles.
Then again, I am not doing brain surgery and I am not an astronaut so I do
have a spare 5 minutes every now and then. A small amount of time compared
to what I spend at the RBW site building my wishlists for when I win this
raffle. Mystery bike-esque but with Rohloff setup, seems like the ideal
configuration for city riding(at least IMO). :)

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> > Come on, lighten up! Bike snob is hilarious in my opinion
> Five years ago maybe.  Been a long time since I visited, but recall when I
> did he was still at the same old schtick.  About the same as turning on SNL
> only to see Will Ferrell still doing his Janet Reno imitation.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW ad on Bike Snob

[Matthew J]

> Come on, lighten up! Bike snob is hilarious in my opinion
Five years ago maybe.  Been a long time since I visited, but recall when I 
did he was still at the same old schtick.  About the same as turning on SNL 
only to see Will Ferrell still doing his Janet Reno imitation.

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[RBW] Anybody have great (or lousy) experience with waterproof iPhone5 mounts on your Riv? I need ones to investigate (and ones to avoid)

[Derek]

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW ad on Bike Snob

[Colin Bortner]

Here's the ad: http://imageshack.us/a/img684/1350/bsnycadtiffany.jpg

I think RBW has run it in previous years.

 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> Can't we post a pic into a thread?
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:00:48 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Profanity AND misanthropy all in one place!
>>
>>
>> Throw in some gratuitous nudity and I'm sold!!!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> I couldn't find the ad. But I don't want to wade through the sea of
>>> profanity and misanthropy to get to it on that Bikesnob site.
>>>
>>> At this point I must give a personal "Thank You" to Grant Petersen for
>>> keeping his RBW site/knowledge base, book, and RivReaders civil, polite,
>>> and profanity free. Makes it a joy to read and learn about bikes!
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW ad on Bike Snob

[Leslie]

Can't we post a pic into a thread?




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>
> Profanity AND misanthropy all in one place!
>
>
> Throw in some gratuitous nudity and I'm sold!!!
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Michael 
> > wrote:
>
>> I couldn't find the ad. But I don't want to wade through the sea of 
>> profanity and misanthropy to get to it on that Bikesnob site.
>>
>> At this point I must give a personal "Thank You" to Grant Petersen for 
>> keeping his RBW site/knowledge base, book, and RivReaders civil, polite, 
>> and profanity free. Makes it a joy to read and learn about bikes!
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[RBW] Re: A unTypical Ride

[dougP]

Manny:

Thanks for the photos & story.  Looks like Grant's commute is a good place 
for test rides. A lot of that turf looks familiar from photos on Riv's 
website, especially that sequence of pushing bikes up a ridgeline.  

dougP

On Monday, December 17, 2012 7:22:20 AM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Amit was/is in town. We went riding. Not really knowing where to go with 
> the overcasted  weather I figured Diablo can't disappoint for someone who 
> never rode to the top. So I called some Rivendell guys and soon it was on. 
> Plan was to meet at Rivendell after hours and ride to the top of Mt.Diablo. 
> Amit was on amtrak time constraint so the ride had to be short and sweet. 
> But like most trips at Rivendell things don't always go as planned. When we 
> were ready to go, I asked Grant if he wanted to join us. He told us, "Well 
> I'm have other things to do but I'm going to do a short ride that I always 
> do before or after work." Figured since Amit needed to catch his train 
> Grant's shorter ride seemed best. So a bunch of us tagged along with Grant 
> while he went on his "typical ride". The ride was shortish but the hills 
> were grunty. Through the twist and turns of the lovely homes of Walnut 
> Creek Grant takes us through a couple of sections of dirt. Reaching to the 
> very top of the ride we ended up kinda of stuck due to the trail being 
> closed. So without really making a big deal about it Grant just walks off 
> the trail down the hill. We follow suit and continue along our way. After a 
> couple of turns and descents we make it way back to towards Bart. Grant 
> tells us, "Well I'm going home now if you want to go to Bart just go that 
> way."  Joe, Jim and Sean decided to keep going while Amit, Will and I have 
> to cut the ride short and catch a train. 
> And usually this happens on rides that I do. Most of it is made up with no 
> destination. Usually we ride till we don't want to. We ride with the sense 
> of adventure, exploration and a little bit of recklessness. Thanks to Grant 
> for allowing us to tag along. Amit is here for a bit so expect so more 
> shots of him before the year is over. 
>
> Pictures proved that pizza is good biking fuel:
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDdQWmk
>
>
> -Manny "I guess we go with Grant" Acosta
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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Jeremy Till]

My order was a Big Rear Rack for my wife's touring bike, a Sackville 
TrunkSack small for me, and some Nitto Band Clamps to mount a Mark's Rack 
for the aforementioned TrunkSack on my road bike's fork (no braze-ons).  

If I were to win I'd get something along the Road lines, with 57mm reach 
brakes with clearance for 28's + fenders or 33-35's without, with better 
geometry than my current road bike (Salsa Casseroll).  I'd let Grant handle 
the tubing choices since I want it to be light-ish and fast but I'm also a 
big guy and like going off-pavement, so not sure I'd want something 
Roadeo-light.  Color would be a hard choice--I've always loved the 
light-ish blues on the old Road Standards, or a solid dark (british 
racing?) green, or something in the dark silvery-pewter range, like Gino's 
old Saluki.  

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:58:13 PM UTC-8, cbone97 wrote:
>
> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
> Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
>
> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
> on fleabay.): 
>
> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
> 2 tubes for 'em 
> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
> Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
> 2 corks 
> total: $300.00 
>
>
> My prize request: 
> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Little Ben

[Cap'n Mike]

I was close to buying a set of 40 mm Duremes for my AHH but will await
the Little Big Ben. I wonder about the difference between the two tire
types, aside from cost.
-Mike

On Dec 14, 7:44 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I gotta say, I'm excited for Little Ben and looking forward to putting a
> set of those on my LHT. Anyone seen these yet?
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tben-10128.htm
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Large Nigel Smythe Saddle bag for Berthoud Front Bag

[Sean Cleary]

Great, email me offline please. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[John L]

1 Abus Phantom
1 Canada Dark Grey Socks
1 Chambray Shift
4 John's Irish Strap
1 Vapor Barrier Liner
1 Suspenders
1 Wooly Warm Vest

Total $304

The phantom, vest and suspenders are already seeing every days use.  The 
socks would be but my dog has hidden them.

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:58:13 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote:
>
> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
> Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
>
> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
> on fleabay.): 
>
> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
> 2 tubes for 'em 
> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
> Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
> 2 corks 
> total: $300.00 
>
>
> My prize request: 
> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Big Paulie]

Can't afford to enter this month, but...

...if I could, and I won:

I would order a copy of a 54 San Marcos, with a few Rivendell touches
(better dropouts, better brake fit, nicer fork curve) a different
color (probably Merckx orange) and of course, the emporer-like status
of a Rivendell decal running along the down tube! :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!

[Ron Mc]

Have to agree that we don't hang on anything.  That's the realm of the 
trendy.  If anything, we're retrogeeks, the total opposites of trendy.  We 
got here on our own, and like Grant's copy because he puts our own thoughts 
into words that we hadn't taken the trouble to write down.  

On Friday, December 14, 2012 3:19:47 PM UTC-6, z-man wrote:
>
> Absolutely correct!  Furthermore, all these folks that hang on Grant's 
> words to either agree or disagree. I don't get it. 
>
> It's not like we hang out or anything, but over the years, all the way 
> back to the BOB days, I've had some really nice chats with Grant. I 
> find him to be a pretty nice guy.  But in those talks I never got the 
> impression that I was talking to the Maharishi of the Bicycle, nor 
> have I ever heard him suggest that. Opinions are like you know what's! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] A unTypical Ride

[Steve Palincsar]

Great description and slideshow!  So, contrary to the subject, for Grant
this actually is a "typical ride"?

On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 07:22 -0800, Manuel Acosta wrote:
> Amit was/is in town. We went riding. Not really knowing where to go
> with the overcasted  weather I figured Diablo can't disappoint for
> someone who never rode to the top. So I called some Rivendell guys and
> soon it was on. Plan was to meet at Rivendell after hours and ride to
> the top of Mt.Diablo. Amit was on amtrak time constraint so the ride
> had to be short and sweet. But like most trips at Rivendell things
> don't always go as planned. When we were ready to go, I asked Grant if
> he wanted to join us. He told us, "Well I'm have other things to do
> but I'm going to do a short ride that I always do before or after
> work." Figured since Amit needed to catch his train Grant's shorter
> ride seemed best. So a bunch of us tagged along with Grant while he
> went on his "typical ride". The ride was shortish but the hills were
> grunty. Through the twist and turns of the lovely homes of Walnut
> Creek Grant takes us through a couple of sections of dirt. Reaching to
> the very top of the ride we ended up kinda of stuck due to the trail
> being closed. So without really making a big deal about it Grant just
> walks off the trail down the hill. We follow suit and continue along
> our way. After a couple of turns and descents we make it way back to
> towards Bart. Grant tells us, "Well I'm going home now if you want to
> go to Bart just go that way."  Joe, Jim and Sean decided to keep going
> while Amit, Will and I have to cut the ride short and catch a train. 
> And usually this happens on rides that I do. Most of it is made up
> with no destination. Usually we ride till we don't want to. We ride
> with the sense of adventure, exploration and a little bit of
> recklessness. Thanks to Grant for allowing us to tag along. Amit is
> here for a bit so expect so more shots of him before the year is
> over. 
> 
> 
> Pictures proved that pizza is good biking fuel:
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDdQWmk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Manny "I guess we go with Grant" Acosta
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[RBW] A unTypical Ride

[Manuel Acosta]

Amit was/is in town. We went riding. Not really knowing where to go with 
the overcasted  weather I figured Diablo can't disappoint for someone who 
never rode to the top. So I called some Rivendell guys and soon it was on. 
Plan was to meet at Rivendell after hours and ride to the top of Mt.Diablo. 
Amit was on amtrak time constraint so the ride had to be short and sweet. 
But like most trips at Rivendell things don't always go as planned. When we 
were ready to go, I asked Grant if he wanted to join us. He told us, "Well 
I'm have other things to do but I'm going to do a short ride that I always 
do before or after work." Figured since Amit needed to catch his train 
Grant's shorter ride seemed best. So a bunch of us tagged along with Grant 
while he went on his "typical ride". The ride was shortish but the hills 
were grunty. Through the twist and turns of the lovely homes of Walnut 
Creek Grant takes us through a couple of sections of dirt. Reaching to the 
very top of the ride we ended up kinda of stuck due to the trail being 
closed. So without really making a big deal about it Grant just walks off 
the trail down the hill. We follow suit and continue along our way. After a 
couple of turns and descents we make it way back to towards Bart. Grant 
tells us, "Well I'm going home now if you want to go to Bart just go that 
way."  Joe, Jim and Sean decided to keep going while Amit, Will and I have 
to cut the ride short and catch a train. 
And usually this happens on rides that I do. Most of it is made up with no 
destination. Usually we ride till we don't want to. We ride with the sense 
of adventure, exploration and a little bit of recklessness. Thanks to Grant 
for allowing us to tag along. Amit is here for a bit so expect so more 
shots of him before the year is over. 

Pictures proved that pizza is good biking fuel:

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDdQWmk


-Manny "I guess we go with Grant" Acosta

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RE: [RBW] Re: Saddlesack Large vs. Nitto Big Back Rack

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

The Nitto Saddlebag Grip sold by Riv http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r13.htm , 
in addition to its quite useful intended purpose of providing a quick release 
for a nice saddlebag you don't want to leave on your bike, also moves a 
saddlebag back a couple of inches, which might allow you to clear the 
tombstone, depending on the dimensions of your particular bike.  It materially 
improved, but didn't entirely eliminate, this problem with a Nigel Smythe Big 
Boxy Bag, similar in size to the larger Sackville Saddlesacks, mounted on a 
56cm Bombadil.  Pic here: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4249456177/in/set-72157624552118742/


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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of shawn
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:23 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Saddlesack Large vs. Nitto Big Back Rack

I have the same rack- bag combination and IMO the two do not work the best 
together. I simply live with the Saddlesack resting up against the tombstone. 
This cuts into the volume the bag, but it works. I have thought of switching to 
a rack that does not have this type of tombstone, like the Tubus Cosmo.

On Saturday, December 15, 2012 1:01:52 AM UTC-5, soapscum wrote:
I'm struggling to get my new large Saddlesack to play nice with my Nitto Big 
Back. The problem is that the tombstone on the rack holds the bag so far back 
that the loops on the top of the bag can't reach the loops on my saddle. Not by 
a LONG way. A new rack is not an option. Has anyone made this combo work, and 
if so what the secret sauce?

Thanks!
Shawn
Seattle, WA
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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Peter Pesce]

I've got a pair of Marathon Supremes, a new Noddle, and some Not-So-Tights, 
plus random other stuff. I thought of going the gift certificate route, but 
prefer to get "stuff" in the mail as opposed to promises of future stuff. 

My custom would probably be a Roadeo-lmost set up to fit 650b with long 
reach sidepulls or 700c with standard reach. (According to the math it 
should work, if you're not worrying about fenders. There could be some 
catch I haven't though of, though.)

-Pete in CT

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:58:13 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote:
>
> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
> Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
>
> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
> on fleabay.): 
>
> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
> 2 tubes for 'em 
> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
> Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
> 2 corks 
> total: $300.00 
>
>
> My prize request: 
> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[nawrock]

Jack Brown Blue or Green on my Rodeo. I did put Shwalbe Marathon 38's on it 
once just for the heck of it, they did just fit, incredible! 


Cant afford the $300 raffle entry this year, its been a rough one. 

Dave Nawrocki 

Fort Collins, CO 

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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:49:02 PM 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your 
plans for the prize? 

If you buy a Roadeo you won't be sorry. 

BTW, speaking of orders, what do people recommend for tires for their 
Roadeos? I need to put together an order of my own. 

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 5:24 PM, RJM  wrote: 
> Well, I was thinking of doing a 350 buck gift certificate or placing an 
> order for a Roadeo frame. I don't know which one I will do though. 
> 
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:58:13 PM UTC-6, cbone97 wrote: 
>> 
>> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
>> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
>> Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
>> 
>> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
>> on fleabay.): 
>> 
>> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
>> 2 tubes for 'em 
>> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
>> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
>> Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
>> 2 corks 
>> total: $300.00 
>> 
>> 
>> My prize request: 
>> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
>> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[IanA]

With integrated dynamo wiring and a sail?

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:56:30 PM UTC-7, Way Rebb wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of a Sam Hunqa-Pilson that converts into a kayak and I 
> can float down the river.  I'm not sure it's possible :( 
>
> On Dec 16, 3:58 pm, cbone97  wrote: 
> > A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
> > enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
> > Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
> > 
> > My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
> > on fleabay.): 
> > 
> > 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
> > 2 tubes for 'em 
> > 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
> > 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
> > Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
> > 2 corks 
> > total: $300.00 
> > 
> > My prize request: 
> > 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
> > configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>

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