[RBW] Bike stereo

[Benedikt]

I've been enjoying music from my smart phone in my jacket pocket going to 
and from work. Loud enough I can hear it (when there's no traffic) yet 
still allowing me to hear what's around. I decided to step it up just a 
little.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/8464462126/in/set-72157607896493013/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/8463362771/in/set-72157607896493013/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/8464461946/in/set-72157607896493013/


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[RBW] Re: Meet new people.

[Benedikt]

Sweet. I didn't see any hot dogs.


On Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:02:10 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> As much of an individual exercise activity it is it's always better with 
> others.
> Luckily every once in a while you get to meet like minded people wanting 
> go out and ride.
> Got invited to a ride up railroad grade on a mix terrain ride. 
> Some highlights:
> - Confusing a handful of cyclists on the bridge into thinking that we were 
> the ride they were wanting for.
> - Finding out that there's a biking repair box near the top of Mt.Tam. 
> - Having ride leader Brian Oei be the best ride leader by providing spam 
> musubi!
> - Being forced ride to the top because no one believe that there was Hot 
> dogs at the top.
> - "Practicing" my tumbling skills on some dirt downhill for the group.
> - Remembering the eating and socializing more then the ride itself.
>
> Pictures proved that sometimes the ride is better with more:
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDXaKVQ
>
> - Manny "I love Spam Musubi" Acosta 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose brake lever question

[BSWP]

I had these out for a 20 mile ride to the Bay and back through the 
foothills today. It's pretty nice having eight inches of straight taped bar 
(I cut off an inch), with the brakes set close into the center. I can grab 
out wide, anywhere along the tape, and have several good positions with 
hands resting on the brake clamps, and I also found a restful spot for my 
hands at the very center of the bars. Glad to see RBW is bringing these 
back.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Meet new people.

[Manuel Acosta]

As much of an individual exercise activity it is it's always better with 
others.
Luckily every once in a while you get to meet like minded people wanting go 
out and ride.
Got invited to a ride up railroad grade on a mix terrain ride. 
Some highlights:
- Confusing a handful of cyclists on the bridge into thinking that we were 
the ride they were wanting for.
- Finding out that there's a biking repair box near the top of Mt.Tam. 
- Having ride leader Brian Oei be the best ride leader by providing spam 
musubi!
- Being forced ride to the top because no one believe that there was Hot 
dogs at the top.
- "Practicing" my tumbling skills on some dirt downhill for the group.
- Remembering the eating and socializing more then the ride itself.

Pictures proved that sometimes the ride is better with more:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDXaKVQ

- Manny "I love Spam Musubi" Acosta 

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[RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[Joe Bernard]

I suppose anyone can make a drawing of whatever bike/car/motorcycle they're 
into, but I have issues with a company's brand name being represented 
without permission on the internet. The text on that page states the work 
was done "for Rivendell Bicycle Works", which implies that the images are 
authorized. Not cool. Also..they're lame.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
 

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:49:48 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:

> A bit of a surprise. Dan Blackman is a talented artist, and I found out 
> about him when I toured the Pointer Brand factory in Bristol, VA--when i 
> was on my book tour. I liked the work he did for pointer, contacted him and 
> talked about posters. He and Dave were talking, and I/Dave too THOUGHT we 
> were clear about what we wanted---INFO-graphical posters that told the 
> story of the bike via symbols, graphs, pie charts. 
>
> We were to pay him about $4,500---I think that was the figure--for six or 
> seven posters, with a KILL FEE of $1,000. A kill fee is what the artist 
> gets if the project goes south for any reason. In our case, the posters 
> were taking a direction we didn't expect and that didn't seem to be 
> info-graphical. So we nipped it in the bud, so we thought, paid the kill 
> fee, and that should have been it.
>
> It it is suprising to find that the posters continued. I don't know what 
> to think about it, really. It never occured to us that it would go this 
> way. I like to control any-and-all impressions of Rivendell, because 
> there's a certain style that I want associated with us and the bikes and 
> all. But I don't think we can stop anybody from doing that, legally---and 
> if we could, I wouldn't bother or go to the expense. It would be so 
> unpleasant, almost mean, and we have our hands full already. Plus it's not 
> like Dan Blackman is the enemy, either. I wish he hadn't, but he did, and I 
> hope he makes a little money off them and then they sort of fade away.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:05:38 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they 
>> exist? Like'em a lot. 
>>
>>
>> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
>>
>> Cheers! 
>> cm
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Camp in Dreamland

[Manuel Acosta]

Liesl.
Seems like your dreams are telling you to go camping when your in the Bay 
Area. 

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[RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[RJM]

I like the Atlantis one, but it really needs to be the atlantis color for 
the water.
 
I can't say I like the others all that much.
 

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:05:38 PM UTC-6, Christopher Murray wrote:

> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist? 
> Like'em a lot. 
>
>
> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
>
> Cheers! 
> cm
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv wheel set....

[RJM]

Sounds great, Charlie. 
 
I have two sets of rich built wheels for my Hillborne. One that uses 
cassettes and one that is built on Rivy freewheel hubs and dyad rims. I 
really love the freewheel one. Rode that set all last year and never had 
one issue with them, even use the wheels as trainer duty this winter. They 
are just great wheels and haven't needed a truing or anything.
 
I have to check on using a generator hub for my Roadeo. I do believe that 
may be the route I go with the wheelset.
 

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:50:37 PM UTC-6, charlie wrote:

> Super happy with my Rich built wheel set. The Son 28 generator hub is 
> awesome and runs with so little resistance it amazes me. The White rear hub 
> is rock solid and the Dyad rims roll smooth,wow! My Hillborne is now my 
> favorite ride with just the right blend of features.

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[RBW] Re: Riv wheel set....

[Liesl]

I have similar Rich-built wheels—SON generator and White ENO—on my Proto 
and I know zactly what you mean.  Have fun.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

[Peter Morgano]

To Kill A Mockingbird is still one of my favorites. My daughter loved the
movie, who wouldnt like Gregory Peck?

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, rob markwardt wrote:

> Today I learnin the word chiffarobe.  Sorry, no idea about your
> shellac.
>
> On Feb 10, 7:29 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> > Does it really go bad after a while? I am anxiously anticipating the
> > arrival of the Bombadil in a few days but realized my shellac is about
> > 4-5 months old. I made it myself out of button lac, if that makes a
> > difference. I googled around the web and its all woodworking sites who
> > say its past it but this isnt my chiffarobe, its some twine. Hoping
> > someone with more experience will just chime in and let me know it
> > will still "go off" and dry. Otherwise I have to make and strain a new
> > batch which takes a few days. Thanks to anyone who has some learnin
> > here.
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[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

[rob markwardt]

Today I learnin the word chiffarobe.  Sorry, no idea about your
shellac.

On Feb 10, 7:29 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> Does it really go bad after a while? I am anxiously anticipating the
> arrival of the Bombadil in a few days but realized my shellac is about
> 4-5 months old. I made it myself out of button lac, if that makes a
> difference. I googled around the web and its all woodworking sites who
> say its past it but this isnt my chiffarobe, its some twine. Hoping
> someone with more experience will just chime in and let me know it
> will still "go off" and dry. Otherwise I have to make and strain a new
> batch which takes a few days. Thanks to anyone who has some learnin
> here.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac Question

[Peter Morgano]

Haha, the web was all about french polishes and how you had to use fresh
shellac or else it wouldnt be french enough or something like that. This
button lac was the real deal, had to strain out the dead bugs and wax and
all, hate to waste it.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Manuel Acosta <
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Secreted by the female lac bug  
> juice
>> goes bad? I don't see how bad bug juice can hurt anything. Go for it.
>>
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[RBW] Tandem Sizes

[Eric Norris]

Forgot to include sizes in my earlier email regarding the Santana tandem:

Front: 54 cm C-T
Rear: 51 cm C-T

Note that I usually ride a 56cm frame, but this tandem fits me just fine. It 
was sized this way for me by the folks at Santana.

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[RBW] Re: Shellac Question

[Manuel Acosta]

>
> Secreted by the female lac bug  
> juice 
> goes bad? I don't see how bad bug juice can hurt anything. Go for it.
>

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[RBW] Shellac Question

[Peter M]

Does it really go bad after a while? I am anxiously anticipating the
arrival of the Bombadil in a few days but realized my shellac is about
4-5 months old. I made it myself out of button lac, if that makes a
difference. I googled around the web and its all woodworking sites who
say its past it but this isnt my chiffarobe, its some twine. Hoping
someone with more experience will just chime in and let me know it
will still "go off" and dry. Otherwise I have to make and strain a new
batch which takes a few days. Thanks to anyone who has some learnin
here.

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[RBW] FS: Santana Tandem

[Eric Norris]

There's been some talk on the list about a Rivendell tandem, so ... Not a Riv 
tandem, but the next best thing. We are selling our Santana Arriva tandem--a 
fantastic machine handmade at the original Santana workshop in Claremont, CA. 
Fillet-brazed by hand (not Tig-welded as they are now).  Purchased from 
Santana's home shop, the (now closed) Bud's Bike Shop in Claremont.

The photos speak for themselves:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632736391821/show/

A few details:

Fillet-brazed frame of custom-drawn Columbus tubing
Investment-cast cro-moly fork crown
Special Santana bottom brackets with eccentric front
Campagnolo 7-speed Record Ergo levers
Sugino cranksets
Arai drum brake, actuated by Suntour bar-end shifter (for use as a drag brake 
on long downhills)
Handbuilt 48-spoke wheels
Sealed bearing, high-flange hubs
Includes seats, rack, and rack trunk
Pedals not included
Original Santana-branded stoker bars included, if you want them
 
This tandem has been used, but very little. The last time it was on the road 
before taking these photos was about three years ago :-(  It needs a home where 
it will be ridden and appreciated.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me.

Asking $1,000, and local pickup in the Sacramento, CA, area is preferred 
(although I will be happy to pack and ship it for the cost of shipping).

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[RBW] Riv wheel set....

[charlie]

Super happy with my Rich built wheel set. The Son 28 generator hub is 
awesome and runs with so little resistance it amazes me. The White rear hub 
is rock solid and the Dyad rims roll smooth,wow! My Hillborne is now my 
favorite ride with just the right blend of features.

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Re: [RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[Marty]

>
> Correct spelling would have screwed up the symmetry! He needed three 
>> letters per line. I have to admit when I first saw these I thought they 
>> might have been done without approval. I was close. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: "Aero" cable routing for bar end shifters

[Phil Bickford]

I can't remember being entirely satisfied with that setup myself.  Two
things you could try:

  -cross the front and rear cables before the downtube cable stops to
eliminate that last tight bend coming off the bars.
  -use campy cables - they are slightly skinnier than standard shimano
width.

neither of which is going to be magical. Your asking for an un-natural
act, after all.

Phil B


On Feb 10, 6:30 am, Minh  wrote:
> This is a question to the folks that have routed the cable housing for
> their bar end shifters 'aero' style where it runs up the length of the bars

> I love how clean the routing is this way--and the fact that it makes front
> bag mouting a lot easier, but the feeling at the shifter is concerning,
> thanks for any tips!

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Re: [RBW] Re: RivReviews

[Tim McNamara]

On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

> I've been on the receiving end of negative commentary resulting from a 
> combination of unreasonable expectations and apparent miscommunication. A 
> recent one was a minor dispute/misunderstanding over a Brooks B67 that went 
> missing (my fault). I resolved it by offering the customer either a 
> replacement, refund, or store credit. He said store credit was ok, and left. 
> The whole transaction seemed friendly and positive - heck, we'd known each 
> other for years and I considered him a friend. Then a week later, on a public 
> forum, I see in bold letters JIM THILL IS A THIEF followed by a tale that was 
> a twisted version of the way I recalled it, culminating in my theft of his 
> saddle. I tried to communicate my desire to make good several times, but got 
> vitriol or silence in return.

Ouch.  All of your customers that I have met have been really nice folks, so 
this sort of thing is shocking.

> It's possible that Riv tried to appease this guy, too, but he wasn't hearing 
> it.

Riv has, for better and worse, an outsized presence in the virtual world of the 
Internet, bike magazines and trade journals.  Back when I used to read bike 
mags and newsgroups and bike web sites a lot (my goal is to read about bikes 
less and ride more, although I have only accomplished the former much to my 
waistline's chagrin), I would see Grant quoted or references 100 times as often 
as the CEOs of Trek or Cannondale.  Grant has a particular set of viewpoints 
and ways of running his business and those create some resonance that more 
"normal" bike manufacturers don't get.  Trek and Cannondale etc. get product 
buzz; Grant gets "velosophy buzz."  And that may make him (and by extension 
Rivendell) more of a target for resentment and getting smeared on the interwebs.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[Peter Morgano]

He could at least spell hunqapillar right though.
On Feb 10, 2013 8:16 PM, "Jim Mather"  wrote:

> It looks like he's just using them as part of his portfolio. I
> couldn't see any place where they are for sale.
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, grant  wrote:
> > A bit of a surprise. Dan Blackman is a talented artist, and I found out
> > about him when I toured the Pointer Brand factory in Bristol, VA--when i
> was
> > on my book tour. I liked the work he did for pointer, contacted him and
> > talked about posters. He and Dave were talking, and I/Dave too THOUGHT we
> > were clear about what we wanted---INFO-graphical posters that told the
> story
> > of the bike via symbols, graphs, pie charts.
> >
> > We were to pay him about $4,500---I think that was the figure--for six or
> > seven posters, with a KILL FEE of $1,000. A kill fee is what the artist
> gets
> > if the project goes south for any reason. In our case, the posters were
> > taking a direction we didn't expect and that didn't seem to be
> > info-graphical. So we nipped it in the bud, so we thought, paid the kill
> > fee, and that should have been it.
> >
> > It it is suprising to find that the posters continued. I don't know what
> to
> > think about it, really. It never occured to us that it would go this
> way. I
> > like to control any-and-all impressions of Rivendell, because there's a
> > certain style that I want associated with us and the bikes and all. But I
> > don't think we can stop anybody from doing that, legally---and if we
> could,
> > I wouldn't bother or go to the expense. It would be so unpleasant, almost
> > mean, and we have our hands full already. Plus it's not like Dan
> Blackman is
> > the enemy, either. I wish he hadn't, but he did, and I hope he makes a
> > little money off them and then they sort of fade away.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:05:38 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
> >>
> >> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they
> exist?
> >> Like'em a lot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> cm
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Re: [RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[Jim Mather]

It looks like he's just using them as part of his portfolio. I
couldn't see any place where they are for sale.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, grant  wrote:
> A bit of a surprise. Dan Blackman is a talented artist, and I found out
> about him when I toured the Pointer Brand factory in Bristol, VA--when i was
> on my book tour. I liked the work he did for pointer, contacted him and
> talked about posters. He and Dave were talking, and I/Dave too THOUGHT we
> were clear about what we wanted---INFO-graphical posters that told the story
> of the bike via symbols, graphs, pie charts.
>
> We were to pay him about $4,500---I think that was the figure--for six or
> seven posters, with a KILL FEE of $1,000. A kill fee is what the artist gets
> if the project goes south for any reason. In our case, the posters were
> taking a direction we didn't expect and that didn't seem to be
> info-graphical. So we nipped it in the bud, so we thought, paid the kill
> fee, and that should have been it.
>
> It it is suprising to find that the posters continued. I don't know what to
> think about it, really. It never occured to us that it would go this way. I
> like to control any-and-all impressions of Rivendell, because there's a
> certain style that I want associated with us and the bikes and all. But I
> don't think we can stop anybody from doing that, legally---and if we could,
> I wouldn't bother or go to the expense. It would be so unpleasant, almost
> mean, and we have our hands full already. Plus it's not like Dan Blackman is
> the enemy, either. I wish he hadn't, but he did, and I hope he makes a
> little money off them and then they sort of fade away.
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:05:38 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist?
>> Like'em a lot.
>>
>>
>> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
>>
>> Cheers!
>> cm
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[RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[grant]

A bit of a surprise. Dan Blackman is a talented artist, and I found out 
about him when I toured the Pointer Brand factory in Bristol, VA--when i 
was on my book tour. I liked the work he did for pointer, contacted him and 
talked about posters. He and Dave were talking, and I/Dave too THOUGHT we 
were clear about what we wanted---INFO-graphical posters that told the 
story of the bike via symbols, graphs, pie charts. 

We were to pay him about $4,500---I think that was the figure--for six or 
seven posters, with a KILL FEE of $1,000. A kill fee is what the artist 
gets if the project goes south for any reason. In our case, the posters 
were taking a direction we didn't expect and that didn't seem to be 
info-graphical. So we nipped it in the bud, so we thought, paid the kill 
fee, and that should have been it.

It it is suprising to find that the posters continued. I don't know what to 
think about it, really. It never occured to us that it would go this way. I 
like to control any-and-all impressions of Rivendell, because there's a 
certain style that I want associated with us and the bikes and all. But I 
don't think we can stop anybody from doing that, legally---and if we could, 
I wouldn't bother or go to the expense. It would be so unpleasant, almost 
mean, and we have our hands full already. Plus it's not like Dan Blackman 
is the enemy, either. I wish he hadn't, but he did, and I hope he makes a 
little money off them and then they sort of fade away.



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>
> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist? 
> Like'em a lot. 
>
>
> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
>
> Cheers! 
> cm
>
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[RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[William]

What is a Hunquapillar?  Is it something like a Hunqapillar?

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:05:38 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist? 
> Like'em a lot. 
>
>
> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
>
> Cheers! 
> cm
>
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[RBW] Re: Riv Camp in Dreamland

[RoadieRyan]

"if we build it.."  that started me thinking of cyclist of old like Tullio 
Campagnolo, Jaques Anquetil, the Wright Brothers, Rene Herse etc. stepping 
out of a corn fieldala field of dreams to come talk bikes, or wait its 
Marin Co. right? so would that be a hemp field..?  Seriously a Riv camp 
would be very cool.

Ryan

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:57:45 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>
> Hey friends, I had the craziest dream last night and thought you'd all get 
> a kick out of it.  As I told Patrick over lunch, I often have dreams about 
> being at Riv HQ.  In real life, I've visited HQ probably half a dozen 
> times, may be more, so I know what the real place is like.  But in my 
> dreams, it's always some big cabin/old hippie farmhouse type of place 
> between the edge of the woods and a meadow.  There are wooden boardwalks 
> running through it and open-air wooden picnic tables with cardboard boxes 
> that are a Riv treasure-trove of old saddle bags and leather bits and all 
> the things I imagine are at the garage sale. It's always like this, and 
> sometimes I talk to Grant or Keven about bike models and it's always fun.  
> Oddly, I have this dream with some regularity.  But in last night's dream 
> there was a twist!
>
> Riv had a camp, kind of like a Girl Scot Camp, that was in redwood-covered 
> hills in some dream version of Marin County (I lived in Sausalito for 
> several years).  The topography was like the steep hills over the ocean as 
> you drive highway 1, but again it was a redwood forest and it overlooked 
> the bay instead of the ocean.  A bunch of Riv folk and friends, including a 
> dream version of Jenny Riv Chica Warrior West (whom I've never met) were 
> inviting me to ride up to the main building.  On our way up, they were 
> taking great pride in showing me their recycling program which had its own 
> building with some sort of dreamland recycling contraptions and various 
> bins for compost and aluminum and plastic bottles, etc .  
>
> I woke up at this point and just started giggling, wishing that we could 
> all visit my dreamland Riv Camp.  I think it would be great to have a Riv 
> Jamboree there.
>
> Do you think these dreams perhaps gave me an unfair advantage in the 
> raffle?
>
> Okay, thanks for letting me share as no one else would really appreciate 
> this little story like you all.
>
> Liesl in Riv Dreamland
>

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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[PATRICK MOORE]

Be sure to post the statutory photos and gives us the details of you
experience with them. The are **wide** but, given that wide is good for
this sort of off-road drop, they are (fer me) the best compromise so far
for on- and off-road riding.

Damn, wish they'd had black when I ordered -- oh well. (Who wants a
**white** bar?)

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, jinxed  wrote:

> YEP! I searched the bar just after posting my reply to you, found Titus,
> and snagged a 25.4 silver. Cant go wrong with a 30 dollar bar. I'll pick up
> the levers locally and hopefully will have a chance to try it all out by
> next weekend. Weather looks like it could shape up nice for some urban
> mixed terrain rambling!!
>
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:30:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> The only vendor I found is:
>>
>> http://shop.titusti.com/**product-p/hboomi.htm
>>
>> But whereas a few weeks ago the only 25.4 clamp size color was white, now
>> they seem to also have silver and black in that size. Should order another
>> pair ...
>>
>> And still $29.99 with fast shipping, at least to NM.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: RivReviews

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I've been on the receiving end of negative commentary resulting from a 
combination of unreasonable expectations and apparent miscommunication. A 
recent one was a minor dispute/misunderstanding over a Brooks B67 that went 
missing (my fault). I resolved it by offering the customer either a 
replacement, refund, or store credit. He said store credit was ok, and left. 
The whole transaction seemed friendly and positive - heck, we'd known each 
other for years and I considered him a friend. Then a week later, on a public 
forum, I see in bold letters JIM THILL IS A THIEF followed by a tale that was a 
twisted version of the way I recalled it, culminating in my theft of his 
saddle. I tried to communicate my desire to make good several times, but got 
vitriol or silence in return. It's possible that Riv tried to appease this guy, 
too, but he wasn't hearing it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RivReviews

[RJM]

Riv always answers the phone for me and I got my Sam Hillborne frame within 
a week or two. I don't know how long the Roadeo will take, they said it 
will be a couple of months so we will see. The wait on that frame isn't 
bothering me that much at all. Every email is answered quickly, like within 
that day, too. 
 
I understand if something falls through the cracks too. I mean, if they are 
selling 500 bikes a year among who knows how many other packages, I can 
understand something getting forgotten. I hope if the dude is for real, 
that a reasonable solution is found. I am suspicious though, based on the 
severity of the review, which really isn't a review on the Hilsen anyway. 
 
I try to make as many reviews that I can and judge the products fairly. 
Haven't made one on the Hillborne yet, but I should and have been meaning 
to write one up.
 
 
 

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[RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[BSWP]

The Sam Hillborne is the only one that's easily legible, and does look 
good. It has a nice blend of bold font use, and abstract planetary graphic 
elements placed to side, leaving enough room for the text to show through. 
The others are hurt by letting the art block out the text.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:05:38 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist? 
> Like 'em a lot. 
>
>
> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/
>
> Cheers! 
> cm
>
>

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[RBW] Re: More Riv Posters?!?!?

[Adam]

Never seen these in paper but I love the design and content.

On Feb 10, 2:05 pm, Christopher Murray 
wrote:
> Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist? 
> Like'em a lot.
>
> http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-poste...
>
> Cheers!
> cm

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Re: [RBW] Re: RivReviews

[Peter Morgano]

Every time I have ever called someone has picked up, sometimes grant
himself. I have asked for pics emailed and got them back that day. For me
they are batting 1000. For someone to say the company might not exist robs
his complaint of all validity and puts him in the category of lunatic. Who
is to say he is even a customer?
On Feb 10, 2013 5:46 PM, "Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery" 
wrote:

> The dude may well be semi-justified. After nearly 10 years as a happy Riv
> customer, I'd be lying if I said that delays on frame orders are uncommon.
> Most of us realize that "it happens" and give Riv the benefit of the doubt.
> I'd also be lying if I said that Riv was batting 1.000 with returned calls
> and emails. In fact, if I really want to communicate with Riv, I've learned
> to email, then call, and, if needed, follow-up with another email or call.
> As a person who deals with fairly high call/email volume, I get it, and
> it's ok with me. So the guy's frame is later than estimated by perhaps
> months. He calls or emails once or twice or thrice and, for whatever
> reason, the ball gets dropped, and his concerns are never addressed to his
> satisfaction. Obviously there are at least two sides to every story, but I
> don't necessarily think that this review tells a tale that is too far out
> of ordinary.
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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[jinxed]

YEP! I searched the bar just after posting my reply to you, found Titus, 
and snagged a 25.4 silver. Cant go wrong with a 30 dollar bar. I'll pick up 
the levers locally and hopefully will have a chance to try it all out by 
next weekend. Weather looks like it could shape up nice for some urban 
mixed terrain rambling!! 

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:30:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> The only vendor I found is:
>
> http://shop.titusti.com/product-p/hboomi.htm
>
> But whereas a few weeks ago the only 25.4 clamp size color was white, now 
> they seem to also have silver and black in that size. Should order another 
> pair ...
>
> And still $29.99 with fast shipping, at least to NM.
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Re: RivReviews

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

The dude may well be semi-justified. After nearly 10 years as a happy Riv 
customer, I'd be lying if I said that delays on frame orders are uncommon. Most 
of us realize that "it happens" and give Riv the benefit of the doubt. I'd also 
be lying if I said that Riv was batting 1.000 with returned calls and emails. 
In fact, if I really want to communicate with Riv, I've learned to email, then 
call, and, if needed, follow-up with another email or call. As a person who 
deals with fairly high call/email volume, I get it, and it's ok with me. So the 
guy's frame is later than estimated by perhaps months. He calls or emails once 
or twice or thrice and, for whatever reason, the ball gets dropped, and his 
concerns are never addressed to his satisfaction. Obviously there are at least 
two sides to every story, but I don't necessarily think that this review tells 
a tale that is too far out of ordinary.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Camp in Dreamland

[Bertin753]

Build it by committee! **I** say she wants a 29er fixed gear.

Patrick "that's *my* dream and I'm sticking to it" Moore who just rode fixed in 
ABQ, NM

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On Feb 10, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dougP  wrote:

> If everyone is done exchanging bags, handlebars, tires, etc., for now, maybe 
> we need a group project to build Liesl's Riv Dreamland.  "If you build it, 
> they will come."  
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:57:45 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>> 
>> Hey friends, I had the craziest dream last night and thought you'd all get a 
>> kick out of it.  As I told Patrick over lunch, I often have dreams about 
>> being at Riv HQ.  In real life, I've visited HQ probably half a dozen times, 
>> may be more, so I know what the real place is like.  But in my dreams, it's 
>> always some big cabin/old hippie farmhouse type of place between the edge of 
>> the woods and a meadow.  There are wooden boardwalks running through it and 
>> open-air wooden picnic tables with cardboard boxes that are a Riv 
>> treasure-trove of old saddle bags and leather bits and all the things I 
>> imagine are at the garage sale. It's always like this, and sometimes I talk 
>> to Grant or Keven about bike models and it's always fun.  Oddly, I have this 
>> dream with some regularity.  But in last night's dream there was a twist!
>> 
>> Riv had a camp, kind of like a Girl Scot Camp, that was in redwood-covered 
>> hills in some dream version of Marin County (I lived in Sausalito for 
>> several years).  The topography was like the steep hills over the ocean as 
>> you drive highway 1, but again it was a redwood forest and it overlooked the 
>> bay instead of the ocean.  A bunch of Riv folk and friends, including a 
>> dream version of Jenny Riv Chica Warrior West (whom I've never met) were 
>> inviting me to ride up to the main building.  On our way up, they were 
>> taking great pride in showing me their recycling program which had its own 
>> building with some sort of dreamland recycling contraptions and various bins 
>> for compost and aluminum and plastic bottles, etc .  
>> 
>> I woke up at this point and just started giggling, wishing that we could all 
>> visit my dreamland Riv Camp.  I think it would be great to have a Riv 
>> Jamboree there.
>> 
>> Do you think these dreams perhaps gave me an unfair advantage in the raffle?
>> 
>> Okay, thanks for letting me share as no one else would really appreciate 
>> this little story like you all.
>> 
>> Liesl in Riv Dreamland
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[RBW] More Riv Posters?!?!?

[Christopher Murray]

Ran across this on the 'tubes. Anyone seen these in person? Do they exist? 
Like'em a lot. 

http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2012/12/12/rivendell-bicycle-works-posters-by-daniel-blackman/

Cheers! 
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Re: [RBW] Hunter Nugz for Paul Canti's?

[Dan McNamara]

I like them. Have them on two bikes. 

Dan

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On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Liesl  wrote:

> Have any of you with Paul canti's used this straddle adjuster?  Comments?
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/huntercycles/5427850147/in/set-72157606185400166/
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[RBW] Re: Hunter Nugz for Paul Canti's?

[Marty]

>
> I have a pair, and like them a lot. Just a simple twist to dial in the 
> pad-to-rim distance. Also like that you use a standard road cable to set it 
> up. Also seems like they are easier to release from the arm when you need 
> to do a wheel change. All in all - thumbs up from me. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv Camp in Dreamland

[dougP]

If everyone is done exchanging bags, handlebars, tires, etc., for now, 
maybe we need a group project to build Liesl's Riv Dreamland.  "If you 
build it, they will come."  

dougP

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:57:45 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>
> Hey friends, I had the craziest dream last night and thought you'd all get 
> a kick out of it.  As I told Patrick over lunch, I often have dreams about 
> being at Riv HQ.  In real life, I've visited HQ probably half a dozen 
> times, may be more, so I know what the real place is like.  But in my 
> dreams, it's always some big cabin/old hippie farmhouse type of place 
> between the edge of the woods and a meadow.  There are wooden boardwalks 
> running through it and open-air wooden picnic tables with cardboard boxes 
> that are a Riv treasure-trove of old saddle bags and leather bits and all 
> the things I imagine are at the garage sale. It's always like this, and 
> sometimes I talk to Grant or Keven about bike models and it's always fun.  
> Oddly, I have this dream with some regularity.  But in last night's dream 
> there was a twist!
>
> Riv had a camp, kind of like a Girl Scot Camp, that was in redwood-covered 
> hills in some dream version of Marin County (I lived in Sausalito for 
> several years).  The topography was like the steep hills over the ocean as 
> you drive highway 1, but again it was a redwood forest and it overlooked 
> the bay instead of the ocean.  A bunch of Riv folk and friends, including a 
> dream version of Jenny Riv Chica Warrior West (whom I've never met) were 
> inviting me to ride up to the main building.  On our way up, they were 
> taking great pride in showing me their recycling program which had its own 
> building with some sort of dreamland recycling contraptions and various 
> bins for compost and aluminum and plastic bottles, etc .  
>
> I woke up at this point and just started giggling, wishing that we could 
> all visit my dreamland Riv Camp.  I think it would be great to have a Riv 
> Jamboree there.
>
> Do you think these dreams perhaps gave me an unfair advantage in the 
> raffle?
>
> Okay, thanks for letting me share as no one else would really appreciate 
> this little story like you all.
>
> Liesl in Riv Dreamland
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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[René Sterental]

Thanks Patrick!


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> The only vendor I found is:
>
> http://shop.titusti.com/product-p/hboomi.htm
>
> But whereas a few weeks ago the only 25.4 clamp size color was white, now
> they seem to also have silver and black in that size. Should order another
> pair ...
>
> And still $29.99 with fast shipping, at least to NM.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM, jinxed  wrote:
>
>> That looks good and your assessment seems in tune with what I'm looking
>> for. I think I'll try to find some this week and will report back!!
>>
>> RE: Matt Chester - it's been a while since I've visited, but always enjoy
>> his POV.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Rene: here are some photos I took last week. Since that time I think
>>> I've slightly changed the angle -- made the ends of the hooks a tiny bit
>>> flatter -- but it looks much the same. Patrick
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#**
>>> 5839352116924214706
>>>
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[RBW] Re: "Aero" cable routing for bar end shifters

[dougP]

My wife's Atlantis came with shift cables routed that way & works as easily 
as the shifting on my bike (cables only under the tape to the brake 
levers).  I always use Teflon coated cables (Aztec maybe?).  Both bikes 
have the regular Shimano housing but there may be something even more 
slippery out there.  

dougP

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:30:13 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:
>
> This is a question to the folks that have routed the cable housing for 
> their bar end shifters 'aero' style where it runs up the length of the bars 
> and exits the tape at the stem.  I did this recently and it feels like 
> there is a lot more friction, i was expecting some, but it's a lot more 
> difficult to move the shifter, is this normal?  Or is there a trick to how 
> to route the housing?  I've tried to get the bend around the drops as wide 
> as possible, but it's still a pretty tight curve (i'm using noodles), 
>
> I love how clean the routing is this way--and the fact that it makes front 
> bag mouting a lot easier, but the feeling at the shifter is concerning, 
> thanks for any tips!  
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Re: [RBW] Riv Camp in Dreamland

[René Sterental]

Ahhh, dreams... The stories they tell... This is a very nice one, I have to
say.

René


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Liesl  wrote:

> Hey friends, I had the craziest dream last night and thought you'd all get
> a kick out of it.  As I told Patrick over lunch, I often have dreams about
> being at Riv HQ.  In real life, I've visited HQ probably half a dozen
> times, may be more, so I know what the real place is like.  But in my
> dreams, it's always some big cabin/old hippie farmhouse type of place
> between the edge of the woods and a meadow.  There are wooden boardwalks
> running through it and open-air wooden picnic tables with cardboard boxes
> that are a Riv treasure-trove of old saddle bags and leather bits and all
> the things I imagine are at the garage sale. It's always like this, and
> sometimes I talk to Grant or Keven about bike models and it's always fun.
> Oddly, I have this dream with some regularity.  But in last night's dream
> there was a twist!
>
> Riv had a camp, kind of like a Girl Scot Camp, that was in redwood-covered
> hills in some dream version of Marin County (I lived in Sausalito for
> several years).  The topography was like the steep hills over the ocean as
> you drive highway 1, but again it was a redwood forest and it overlooked
> the bay instead of the ocean.  A bunch of Riv folk and friends, including a
> dream version of Jenny Riv Chica Warrior West (whom I've never met) were
> inviting me to ride up to the main building.  On our way up, they were
> taking great pride in showing me their recycling program which had its own
> building with some sort of dreamland recycling contraptions and various
> bins for compost and aluminum and plastic bottles, etc .
>
> I woke up at this point and just started giggling, wishing that we could
> all visit my dreamland Riv Camp.  I think it would be great to have a Riv
> Jamboree there.
>
> Do you think these dreams perhaps gave me an unfair advantage in the
> raffle?
>
> Okay, thanks for letting me share as no one else would really appreciate
> this little story like you all.
>
> Liesl in Riv Dreamland
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[RBW] Riv Camp in Dreamland

[Liesl]

Hey friends, I had the craziest dream last night and thought you'd all get 
a kick out of it.  As I told Patrick over lunch, I often have dreams about 
being at Riv HQ.  In real life, I've visited HQ probably half a dozen 
times, may be more, so I know what the real place is like.  But in my 
dreams, it's always some big cabin/old hippie farmhouse type of place 
between the edge of the woods and a meadow.  There are wooden boardwalks 
running through it and open-air wooden picnic tables with cardboard boxes 
that are a Riv treasure-trove of old saddle bags and leather bits and all 
the things I imagine are at the garage sale. It's always like this, and 
sometimes I talk to Grant or Keven about bike models and it's always fun.  
Oddly, I have this dream with some regularity.  But in last night's dream 
there was a twist!

Riv had a camp, kind of like a Girl Scot Camp, that was in redwood-covered 
hills in some dream version of Marin County (I lived in Sausalito for 
several years).  The topography was like the steep hills over the ocean as 
you drive highway 1, but again it was a redwood forest and it overlooked 
the bay instead of the ocean.  A bunch of Riv folk and friends, including a 
dream version of Jenny Riv Chica Warrior West (whom I've never met) were 
inviting me to ride up to the main building.  On our way up, they were 
taking great pride in showing me their recycling program which had its own 
building with some sort of dreamland recycling contraptions and various 
bins for compost and aluminum and plastic bottles, etc .  

I woke up at this point and just started giggling, wishing that we could 
all visit my dreamland Riv Camp.  I think it would be great to have a Riv 
Jamboree there.

Do you think these dreams perhaps gave me an unfair advantage in the raffle?

Okay, thanks for letting me share as no one else would really appreciate 
this little story like you all.

Liesl in Riv Dreamland

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Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[William]

I've used the shorter cage XT with a 12-36 cassette and a double 
chainring.  The M751 GS is the model.  

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Will they accomodate 34 or even 36 to cogs? I've never used one.
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, ted >wrote:
>
>> This is where medium cage derailers are great.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 7:26 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> > Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've used a short cage,
>> > 8-sp era Ultegra with a 14-32 7 speed, but the rd wasn't happy with the 
>> 32).
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Mike  wrote:
>> > > From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes 
>> a
>> > > lot of sense for commuting, rambling and even touring.
>> >
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[RBW] Hunter Nugz for Paul Canti's?

[Liesl]

Have any of you with Paul canti's used this straddle adjuster?  Comments?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/huntercycles/5427850147/in/set-72157606185400166/

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Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[PATRICK MOORE]

Will they accomodate 34 or even 36 to cogs? I've never used one.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, ted  wrote:

> This is where medium cage derailers are great.
>
> On Feb 10, 7:26 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've used a short cage,
> > 8-sp era Ultegra with a 14-32 7 speed, but the rd wasn't happy with the
> 32).
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Mike  wrote:
> > > From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes a
> > > lot of sense for commuting, rambling and even touring.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[PATRICK MOORE]

The only vendor I found is:

http://shop.titusti.com/product-p/hboomi.htm

But whereas a few weeks ago the only 25.4 clamp size color was white, now
they seem to also have silver and black in that size. Should order another
pair ...

And still $29.99 with fast shipping, at least to NM.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM, jinxed  wrote:

> That looks good and your assessment seems in tune with what I'm looking
> for. I think I'll try to find some this week and will report back!!
>
> RE: Matt Chester - it's been a while since I've visited, but always enjoy
> his POV.
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Rene: here are some photos I took last week. Since that time I think I've
>> slightly changed the angle -- made the ends of the hooks a tiny bit flatter
>> -- but it looks much the same. Patrick
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#**
>> 5839352116924214706
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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[jinxed]

That looks good and your assessment seems in tune with what I'm looking 
for. I think I'll try to find some this week and will report back!!

RE: Matt Chester - it's been a while since I've visited, but always enjoy 
his POV.

On Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Rene: here are some photos I took last week. Since that time I think I've 
> slightly changed the angle -- made the ends of the hooks a tiny bit flatter 
> -- but it looks much the same. Patrick
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5839352116924214706
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[RBW] Re: "Aero" cable routing for bar end shifters

[Michael]

>
> When I bought the cables and housing for the set up, the LBS guy said if 
> there was too much friction with the regular housings, then I could get and 
> use this ultra frictionless housing and cables they sold. I forget the 
> name. But you could probably ask for it at your LBS. It was about double 
> the price. The cables looked like plastic if I remember correctly.
>  
>
I just kept the regular housing and cables since they seem to do fine for 
me.
 
Also, I don't use the plastic housing cover that gets mounted at the base 
of the bar end pod on the bottom of drops. I just run the housing from the 
bar end and then tape the bars.

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[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[ted]

This is where medium cage derailers are great.

On Feb 10, 7:26 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've used a short cage,
> 8-sp era Ultegra with a 14-32 7 speed, but the rd wasn't happy with the 32).
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Mike  wrote:
> > From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes a
> > lot of sense for commuting, rambling and even touring.
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB alba setup / 165 triple

[Garth]

You can get a brand new Sugino XD 152mm crank in 24/36/50 for $90 brand new 
BTW.   I'm long legged and use them :)  

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Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[PATRICK MOORE]

Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've used a short cage,
8-sp era Ultegra with a 14-32 7 speed, but the rd wasn't happy with the 32).

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Mike  wrote:

> From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes a
> lot of sense for commuting, rambling and even touring.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[PATRICK MOORE]

You mean "shorter", right? -- and that only if you use the outer and middle
positions. If you simply remove the outer, there is no need for a new bb at
all since normally a middle ring is centered on the cassette already. (In
my case, I had a triple biased toward the left to allow me to use the outer
(46) with all (7) cogs; when I ditched the 46, I moved it back to the
normal "triple" position with the middle -- now outer -- once again
centered on the cassette.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, ted  wrote:

>
>
> On the bb front, converting a triple to a double using the middle and
> small rings should mean you need a longer bb to keep the spec chain
> line. Not that I bothered about that, but ...
>
> On Jan 21, 8:29 pm, Garth  wrote:
> > With my Bombadil a 24t ring is as large as I could go with needing a
> longer
> > BB using a 110mm Tange.  And yes  SS is the only way to go for the
> > small rings.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[PATRICK MOORE]

Whoops! I mean to say that I moved it to the RIGHT a couple of mm.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:12 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

>
> I moved the spindle to the left by a couple of mm so that the chain tracks
> pretty straight between the 17 and 19 t cogs (65 and 58" gears; on the
> Kojaks: 15 and 16 t, 69 and 65").
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Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

[PATRICK MOORE]

I call this sort of gearing "subcomact" and like the switch to 38/24 on the
Fargo (from a 46/36/24 triple). I lose some of the intermediate gears but
have the same range and, more important in this case is that when moving
from smooth, flat surfaces to sandy, hilly surfaces I don't need to switch
between outer and middle. I simply swapped a 38 for the 36 and a bash guard
for the 46.

I switched from a 7 sp (for Big Apples, 16-18-20-22-26-30-34 or suchlike)
to 8 speed (ditto: 13-15-16-17-19-22-26-34). It would be even better with 9
speeds and a 22-25-29-34 progression (Big Apples), but not so much better
-- for my purposes -- to be worth the hassle of seeking out the needed
spacers and cogs. I gear slightly higher and somewhat closer for the Kojak
wheels: 12-13-14-15-16-18-21-26.

I moved the spindle to the left by a couple of mm so that the chain tracks
pretty straight between the 17 and 19 t cogs (65 and 58" gears; on the
Kojaks: 15 and 16 t, 69 and 65").

Patrick "ain't it fun obsessing about gearing?" Moore

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM, JL  wrote:

> I really liked how the gearing worked out when I set up a 110/74 double on
> my CB-O townie bike.  I set it up similar to the riv quickbeam cranksets
> with the blank chainring in the outer position.  Go for it! I bet that
> crank setup is going to be really nice on your Bomba
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Reflecto Triangle

[Ray Shine]

I should also have mentioned that all of my bikes are outfitted with the 
V-Brand 
Keven's saddlebag. I like them for several reasons, not the least of which is 
the very visible reflecto band that each has sewn onto the front  (or, 
functionally, rear-facing).  For most of pannier use I use the very excellent 
Swift Industries bags, each of which also has reflective sewn-on bands.





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Subject: [RBW] Re: Big Reflecto Triangle

Thanks, all, for the tips.  I kinda like Ray's idea.  I might try that...or 
some 
other Reflecto Refinement. 

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Re: [RBW] Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

[PATRICK MOORE]

Rene: here are some photos I took last week. Since that time I think I've
slightly changed the angle -- made the ends of the hooks a tiny bit flatter
-- but it looks much the same. Patrick

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5839352116924214706

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> Patrick, can you post some photos of your Midge setup?
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[RBW] "Aero" cable routing for bar end shifters

[Minh]

This is a question to the folks that have routed the cable housing for 
their bar end shifters 'aero' style where it runs up the length of the bars 
and exits the tape at the stem.  I did this recently and it feels like 
there is a lot more friction, i was expecting some, but it's a lot more 
difficult to move the shifter, is this normal?  Or is there a trick to how 
to route the housing?  I've tried to get the bend around the drops as wide 
as possible, but it's still a pretty tight curve (i'm using noodles), 

I love how clean the routing is this way--and the fact that it makes front 
bag mouting a lot easier, but the feeling at the shifter is concerning, 
thanks for any tips!  

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[RBW] Re: Big Reflecto Triangle

[Pondero]

Thanks, all, for the tips.  I kinda like Ray's idea.  I might try that...or 
some other Reflecto Refinement.

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[RBW] Re: Water Gap Adventure Loop - April 13-14

[Norman]

Looks good to me...Made a reservation. As soon as the snow melts I'll try to 
build up the miles.
Norman

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Re: [RBW] Re: Additional spikes for Grip Kings

[Michael Williams]

Hey Chris Wiggins,   thanks for the tidbit of info.   I just used a
slightly larger bit,  and they went in perfect!-Mike

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Christopher Wiggins wrote:

> I found I had to drill a bigger hole than Riv recommended.  Even then they
> went in tight.
>
>
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 12:57:38 AM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:
>
>> Hey Group,  just wondering if anyone has any experience with the spikes
>> that Rivendell sells that you can put into the Grip Kings.   I drilled out
>> a hole with a 7/64 bit which is right between the recommended 3/32 and 1/8
>> and tried screwing one in but it just didnt want to go.   Then I drilled
>> that same hole with a 1/8 bit and it still wouldnt budge.I thought I
>> was going to break/bend my little 2mm Hex key.   Am I doing something
>> wrong?   thanks in advance.   -Mike
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