Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Riders Spring Ride

[cyclotourist]

Cross your fingers...

Yes, great time (but I'm biased)!


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Bryan  wrote:

> Looks like you all had a good time! Hope I can join you guys in April. The
> 7th looks good so far. . . .
>
> Bryan
>
>
> On Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:26:28 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>
>> David:
>>
>> You neglected to mention the apres ride refreshment stop, but the quality
>> of the ride itself forgives you.
>>
>> Wonderful mix of suburbia (lot of that in So Cal), rural horse country &
>> pure fire road & single track, with a dash of sand wash.  Seriously high
>> quality miles.  I'm glad the Atlantis is an easy bike to push.  Almost on a
>> first name basis with a couple of hikers on that last climb.
>>
>> The hills were at their most brilliant shade of green & still snow on the
>> peaks in the distance.  Air quality was A+ so the vistas from the
>> ridgelines were incredible.  AND Zero Flats, and no mechanicals!  Jim's new
>> Hunqa-parallel was totally cool with 55 mm tires.
>>
>> April 7 looks a good day for another gathering.  Wonder where we could
>> go?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:37:33 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:
>>>
>>> So. Well. Uhhhm, yeah. Wow.
>>>
>>> What a ride. Gorgeous day, fantastic compatriots. Fantastic day,
>>> gorgeous compatriots would be a stretch, but not too far off!
>>>
>>> And if I may say so, a most wonderful-good route!
>>>
>>> Eight riders in total got together to ride a combination of dirt and
>>> road for four hours on a 30+ mile route. First half was all suburban and
>>> rural back roads. Second half was rip-roaring good time on fire roads and
>>> single track.
>>>
>>> All smiles as far as I saw.
>>>
>>> My photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/sets/**
>>> 72157632781100961/with/**8480881832/
>>>
>>> More to follow I'm sure.
>>>
>>> We're hoping to revisit this concept in early April, so keep your eyes
>>> peeled. Same bat-time, same bat-channel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>>>
 Planning updated here, now with map! http://www.flickr.com/groups/**
 socal_rivendell_bicycle_**appreciation_society/discuss/**
 72157632662880910/

 We're at the date-setting stage, so chime in. 9th is off the table, and
 23rd doesn't look good, but the rest of the month is available.

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA

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 can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>> Redlands, CA
>>>
>>> **
>>> "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby
>>> can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*
>>>
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[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Riders Spring Ride

[Bryan]

Looks like you all had a good time! Hope I can join you guys in April. The 
7th looks good so far. . . . 

Bryan 


On Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:26:28 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> David:
>
> You neglected to mention the apres ride refreshment stop, but the quality 
> of the ride itself forgives you.  
>
> Wonderful mix of suburbia (lot of that in So Cal), rural horse country & 
> pure fire road & single track, with a dash of sand wash.  Seriously high 
> quality miles.  I'm glad the Atlantis is an easy bike to push.  Almost on a 
> first name basis with a couple of hikers on that last climb.  
>
> The hills were at their most brilliant shade of green & still snow on the 
> peaks in the distance.  Air quality was A+ so the vistas from the 
> ridgelines were incredible.  AND Zero Flats, and no mechanicals!  Jim's new 
> Hunqa-parallel was totally cool with 55 mm tires.  
>
> April 7 looks a good day for another gathering.  Wonder where we could 
> go?  
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:37:33 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:
>>
>> So. Well. Uhhhm, yeah. Wow.
>>
>> What a ride. Gorgeous day, fantastic compatriots. Fantastic day, gorgeous 
>> compatriots would be a stretch, but not too far off!
>>
>> And if I may say so, a most wonderful-good route! 
>>
>> Eight riders in total got together to ride a combination of dirt and road 
>> for four hours on a 30+ mile route. First half was all suburban and rural 
>> back roads. Second half was rip-roaring good time on fire roads and single 
>> track.
>>
>> All smiles as far as I saw.
>>
>> My photos: 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157632781100961/with/8480881832/
>>
>> More to follow I'm sure.
>>
>> We're hoping to revisit this concept in early April, so keep your eyes 
>> peeled. Same bat-time, same bat-channel.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>
>>> Planning updated here, now with map! 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157632662880910/
>>>
>>> We're at the date-setting stage, so chime in. 9th is off the table, and 
>>> 23rd doesn't look good, but the rest of the month is available.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>> Redlands, CA
>>>
>>> **
>>> "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby 
>>> can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*
>>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> Redlands, CA
>>
>> **
>> "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby 
>> can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*
>>  
>

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[RBW] OT (for goofball content): Bosco Bars daydreaming

[Scot Brooks]

I was just visualizing having some Bosco Bars and all the various hand 
positions, and I had a little revelation; they look big enough and long 
enough that I could really easily and comfortably put my feet up on the 
flats. As obviously unsafe as that sounds, I'm definitely going to try it 
if I ever get a set. Not sure if an extra "foot position" counts toward the 
versatility of a bar, but I'll let history decide. 

That also just made me realize that while people talk a lot about how 
different bikes handle a front load, I seem to recall that giving somebody 
a ride on the handlebars of my BMX bike when I was a kid was a piece of 
cake, and that's *gotta *be 50 or 60 pounds at least. The Boscos would've 
given the comfiest ride ever to one of my BMX passengers. If Riv ever does 
a frame raffle again and I win, I'm gonna go for a 
peg-provisioned-Bosco-BMX and really riding like a kid again. I wonder if 
Rich can make me some sweet mag wheels...

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[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Riders Spring Ride

[dougP]

David:

You neglected to mention the apres ride refreshment stop, but the quality 
of the ride itself forgives you.  

Wonderful mix of suburbia (lot of that in So Cal), rural horse country & 
pure fire road & single track, with a dash of sand wash.  Seriously high 
quality miles.  I'm glad the Atlantis is an easy bike to push.  Almost on a 
first name basis with a couple of hikers on that last climb.  

The hills were at their most brilliant shade of green & still snow on the 
peaks in the distance.  Air quality was A+ so the vistas from the 
ridgelines were incredible.  AND Zero Flats, and no mechanicals!  Jim's new 
Hunqa-parallel was totally cool with 55 mm tires.  

April 7 looks a good day for another gathering.  Wonder where we could go?  

dougP

On Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:37:33 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> So. Well. Uhhhm, yeah. Wow.
>
> What a ride. Gorgeous day, fantastic compatriots. Fantastic day, gorgeous 
> compatriots would be a stretch, but not too far off!
>
> And if I may say so, a most wonderful-good route! 
>
> Eight riders in total got together to ride a combination of dirt and road 
> for four hours on a 30+ mile route. First half was all suburban and rural 
> back roads. Second half was rip-roaring good time on fire roads and single 
> track.
>
> All smiles as far as I saw.
>
> My photos: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157632781100961/with/8480881832/
>
> More to follow I'm sure.
>
> We're hoping to revisit this concept in early April, so keep your eyes 
> peeled. Same bat-time, same bat-channel.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM, cyclotourist 
> > wrote:
>
>> Planning updated here, now with map! 
>> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157632662880910/
>>
>> We're at the date-setting stage, so chime in. 9th is off the table, and 
>> 23rd doesn't look good, but the rest of the month is available.
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> Redlands, CA
>>
>> **
>> "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby 
>> can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*
>>  
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> **
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> can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*
>  

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[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv Riders Spring Ride

[cyclotourist]

So. Well. Uhhhm, yeah. Wow.

What a ride. Gorgeous day, fantastic compatriots. Fantastic day, gorgeous
compatriots would be a stretch, but not too far off!

And if I may say so, a most wonderful-good route!

Eight riders in total got together to ride a combination of dirt and road
for four hours on a 30+ mile route. First half was all suburban and rural
back roads. Second half was rip-roaring good time on fire roads and single
track.

All smiles as far as I saw.

My photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157632781100961/with/8480881832/

More to follow I'm sure.

We're hoping to revisit this concept in early April, so keep your eyes
peeled. Same bat-time, same bat-channel.




On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> Planning updated here, now with map!
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157632662880910/
>
> We're at the date-setting stage, so chime in. 9th is off the table, and
> 23rd doesn't look good, but the rest of the month is available.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> **
> "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby
> can't chew it." -*Mark Twain*
>



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Re: [RBW] FS Sackville, Grip Kings some non-Riv items

[Eric G. Nolan]

Sorry Shawn, they're sold. 

Best,
Eric Nolan
317.410.0185


On Feb 16, 2013, at 9:31 PM, shawn  wrote:

> Eric,
> I will take the King Grips if you still have them.
> Thanks 
> Shawn
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[RBW] FS Sackville, Grip Kings some non-Riv items

[shawn]

Eric,
I will take the King Grips if you still have them.
Thanks 
Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Hunter Nugz for Paul Canti's?

[Michael]

>
> Cool idea. Bet it makes brake cable installation and  adjustment easier 
> having two barrels.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[Anne Paulson]

I'm coming, and I may be bringing along a potential Riv recruit.

Is it possible to send out an advanced group that is sure to get to
wherever we're camping before it's dark? I'm not afraid of riding in
the dark, but I'm not a fan either of setting up my tent in the dark
or of riding in the dark on dirt that I've never been on.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM, keven@rivendell  wrote:
> Hi all!  Keven from Rivendell here.  Wondering if I could get a body count
> of who all is planning on coming out for the S240.  We're trying to figure
> out the best spot on the mountain for the group.  Leaving later in the day
> is never a bad idea if we are hoping to slide somewhat under the radar.
> Bring your bike lights in case we do.  Grant and I (and maybe a few other
> Riv emps) are planning on going along but can't leave work until 4pm
> earliest.  For most Riv campouts we leave around 5pm.  If you're sure you'll
> be there please email me (ke...@rivbike.com) with subject "YES" to confirm.
> Looking forward to it!
>
> On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:17:29 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in a
>> couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  So
>> it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!
>>
>> Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?
>> And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over
>> boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need
>> to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light
>> camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing a
>> bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally rainy,
>> bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I ride in
>> snow.
>>
>> Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe in
>> the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).
>>
>> Can't wait, Liesl
>
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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

[keven@rivendell]

Hi all!  Keven from Rivendell here.  Wondering if I could get a body count 
of who all is planning on coming out for the S240.  We're trying to figure 
out the best spot on the mountain for the group.  Leaving later in the day 
is never a bad idea if we are hoping to slide somewhat under the radar. 
 Bring your bike lights in case we do.  Grant and I (and maybe a few other 
Riv emps) are planning on going along but can't leave work until 4pm 
earliest.  For most Riv campouts we leave around 5pm.  If you're sure 
you'll be there please email me (ke...@rivbike.com) with subject "YES" to 
confirm.  Looking forward to it!

On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:17:29 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>
> Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in a 
> couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  So 
> it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!  
>
> Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?  
> And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over 
> boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need 
> to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light 
> camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing 
> a bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally 
> rainy, bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I 
> ride in snow. 
>
> Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe in 
> the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).
>
> Can't wait, Liesl
>

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[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?

[Michael Hechmer]

We actually  went with a custom tandem for retirement.  I call it my 
Rollex.   Since retiring, I find I have less need of a bike that will carry 
a load, like the Atlantis. Touring is more often on the tandem and always 
inn to inn.  We take the canoe when we go camping.  I now ride my 
Rambouillet more and rarely my Ebisu, which is set up for carrying loads. 
 However I still ride a lot of dirt roads, in fact more now that I don't 
commute into town, so find I still want wider tires than the Ram can handle 
for those kind of rides.  So, unless you plan on lugging a lot of stuff 
around, I would suggest the Rodeo.  Put Jack Brown's on it and you'll be 
fine on dirt or pavement.  If you actually see yourself touring then the 
Atlantis is a great choice.

BTW, I just purchased my second Riv bike, the beautiful Saluki recently 
offered here.   It should be delivered on Monday.  So now I will have a fat 
tire Riv for the great dirt roads (although tres muddy today) here in 
northern Vermont.

Michael

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:19:36 PM UTC-5, markt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 
> 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my 
> retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed 
> the quote that the Appaloosa was a "bike to grow old with". Since the 
> Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv 
> would be a "bike to grow old with". (My kids already think I'm old, but 
> nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double 
> top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. 
> Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me?
> Thanks,
> Mark Taintor
> Chanhassen, MN
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks for those links. I have great respect for Paul Sadoff's bikes, too, and 
his Oregon Manifest project was beautiful.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[jinxed]

I made a call to get pricing and time quotes. The sales rep mentioned 
prices had increased since 09, and he was not even going to mention because 
I would "choke", but he was going to see if they could keep it closer to 
original than the book pricing. He's supposed to contact me Monday or 
Tuesday.
 I* could *go with a cheaper style, but would prefer to keep the high end 
cloisonne. They are just so hefty with the antiqued brass and baked enamel.

Once I have solid info, I will create a new thread with a link to some sort 
of order process.

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[RBW] Re: FS Sackville, Grip Kings some non-Riv items

[justinaugust]

Ill take that crossing guard. Groups mobile won't let me email you directly! 
Hit me up with Paypal info. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: FS Sackville, Grip Kings some non-Riv items

[EGNolan]

>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/sets/72157632162511851/
>
>
UPDATED LIST BELOW:


 
> 1998 Bianchi Volpe Frame/Fork (58cm c-t)- $125+ shipping
> Grip King pedals- $40 shipped
> Raleigh Pro Fork- $100 shipped
> Shimano RSX triple crank w/ rings (original to the Volpe, used, but not 
> worn out)- $45 shipped
> Shimano 600 Double crank arms- $30 shipped
>
   Sugino XD-2 Triple 175, 48-36-26- $90 shipped
   Salsa Crossing Guard 110 BCD, up to 44teeth- $10 shipped
   Campagnolo Nuovo Record Downtube shifters- make an offer
   Shimano 600 Dountube Shifters-$25 shipped

> NOS Suntour Stem shifters-$35 shipped 
>

If any prices seem out of line, make an offer.

Best,
Eric Nolan
INDPLS 

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Really cogent points about Keith and his place in recent cycling history.  
Thanks for mentioning them. 
A few of his posted "rants" are still findable via the web.  A lot 
disappeared after the acquisition.   But, "The Myth of KOPS" is also superb 
and relates significantly to GP's rider placement ideas.

I'll help to nudge this thread off-topic a bit by echoing the idea of the 
early '90s bikes by Bontrager and Bridgestone to be nearly perfected 
examples of mtb design.  At that time, 63mm was "long travel" in front 
suspension, and 80mm travel forks were for Downhill Only.  The long 
wheelbase bikes which Ritchey and Fisher put out at first were  modern 
cruisers, and had some truly compelling aspects and others which were not 
so much.  Only a few pushed beyond that design tenet and created the 
shorter wheelbase bikes of the early 90's.  Those MB's, Privateers, P-XX 
bikes were designed for rigid forks and lucious trail manners.  

When suspension became ubiquitous (the age of RockShox Judy...) design 
shifted again - chasing behaviours warranted by bikes with a hinge in the 
middle, or a fork which moved through 4 or 5 degrees of front end angle.  
Different parameters henceforth, but for a glorious few years, rigid steel 
frames designed for nice meaty tires. 

Yeah - they were spec'd with 150+ mm level stems and dead flat bars, but 
luckily that stuff is changeable. 

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

On Friday, February 15, 2013 8:36:20 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote:
>
> This is what I love about this group.  The only thing hanging in my 
> garage in larger numbers than Bridgestones and Rivendells are old 
> Bontragers. 
>
> >>" I want a Bontrager Privateer pretty bad. Those frames were really 
> cool, and 
> Bontrager seems to be kind of retro in his stylings before Trek 
> perhaps 
> drove a dumptruck full of cash up to his house." 
>
> I would never think to call Bontrager "retro."  He was/is responsible 
> for more technological advancements than you can imagine, and his 90's 
> design efforts probably still  have as much influence on the modern 
> mountain bike design as Tom Ritchey, the WTB guys, and Grant, 
> combined.   He either had a hand in, or was directly responsible for, 
> the direct descendant of every single suspenion fork (project with 
> Rock Shox), narrow aloy rim, low profile saddle, linear-pull brake, 
> full-suspension and carbon fiber frame (project with Kestrel) that 
> you've ever seen. He did hold out against the 1 1/8" headsets and 
> clung to steel frame construction - but hey, we all know that's 
> because they were still superior, right? 
>
> >> "My brother's 1992 Bontrager (pre-Trek) is still an awesome bike. 
> Rides equal to my Bstone MB, which is still my #1 pure dirt choice. 
> I told him he should not listen to our other friends who are 
> constantly urging: 
> "upgrade, new bike, get it." 
>
> Like the Grant Peterson era MB-0/1/2 Bridgestones, his mountain bikes 
> were very good climbers, but had very much full-on racer geometry, and 
> are still valid designs that hold their own against anything new - if 
> you can tune out the voices telling you that you have to "upgrade." 
>
> >> "Or is the story different? 
> Anyone know how Trek came to acquire the name?" 
>
> I think the reason Keith Bontrager sold to Trek was basically because 
> the running of a business had simply started to take too much time 
> away from innovating and building bikes.  He worked the deal where he 
> could still be be involved in product development and, for a while, 
> still build most of the bikes in the Santa Cruz shop.  There are some 
> good articles and interviews to be found on the MTBR VRC forum, MOMBAT 
> website, and on Retrobike in a thread called "Bring out your 
> Bontragers" that are probably more accurate and insightful than this 
>
> >> "Yep. A Bontrager CX bike would be great. I don't know if Rock Lobster 
> still makes Nontragers, but you could always ask... " 
>
> Whatever you do, do NOT ask Paul Sadoff to build you a Nontrager! 
> (this is the real reason I responded - you MUST read this blog post 
> before you think of doing so.  Plus, Rock Lobster makes some REALLY 
> NICE cross bikes of their own design anyway!!!): 
>
>
> http://overopinionatedframebuilder.blogspot.com/2012/06/thanks-but-no-thanks.html
>  
>
> >> "love Mark's bikes, but hadn't seen the Bontrager before. Nice Santa 
> Cruz 
> style two-piece stays, and presumably non-original 650B front end. 
> I've thought 
> about doing the same, but don't have the stones. I think a Kona P2 
> would work, 
> but Mark's fork looks like a custom segmented Igleheart, or similar. 
> Has anyone 
> chatted with him about how he likes the setup?" 
>
> Finally, here's a thread on a bontrager that a guy converted to a 
> 96er, similar to Mark's but one step further.  I do like Mark's idea, 
> though!: 
>
>
> http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro-classic/apologies-purists-bonty-makeover-308641.html
>  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[Cyclofiend Jim]

But there are 4 shown. Is this a koan?
>
>
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[RBW] Re: A bike to grow old with?

[Tim Tetrault]

I think I agree with James that your two best fully functional bikes would 
be the Atlantis or the Hilborne. They consistently get mentioned in the 
"only one bike" debate as good choices. I also agree that when you get on 
in age the Betty would do you well, if riding well into old age is a goal. 
I think most of us would be delighted with the versatility of the Betty 
Foy, even if step-throughs aren't yet our thing. 

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:19:36 PM UTC-8, markt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 
> 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my 
> retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed 
> the quote that the Appaloosa was a "bike to grow old with". Since the 
> Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv 
> would be a "bike to grow old with". (My kids already think I'm old, but 
> nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double 
> top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. 
> Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me?
> Thanks,
> Mark Taintor
> Chanhassen, MN
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

[Captain Mike]

>
> I'm in for 3 if they get made. I am totally taken with the concept of 
> coffeeneuring.

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[RBW] Re: FS Sackville, Grip Kings some non-Riv items

[Christopher Wiggins]

Eric,

I'll take the bag.  Let's figure out a place to meet up.  Or, you can bring 
it by the store!

On Friday, February 15, 2013 1:51:41 PM UTC-5, EGNolan wrote:
>
> I need to sell some things, I was hoping I wouldn't need to. There are 
> photos here: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/sets/72157632162511851/
> I have better photos of the Saddlesack and will get more of the Volpe. 
> Below is the list, which includes some things not pictured.
>  
> 1998 Bianchi Volpe Frame/Fork (58cm c-t)- $125+ shipping
> Sackville Saddlesack Large - $165 shipped
> Grip King pedals- $40 shipped
> Raleigh Pro Fork- $100 shipped
> Shimano RSX triple crank w/ rings (original to the Volpe, used, but not 
> worn out)- $45 shipped
> Sugino AT Triple arms- $ 30 shipped
>  
> If there is interest in an item, but you think the price is outta line, 
> let me know, I'll work on it. 
>  
> If anyone is interested in the 1984 Trek 850 frame/fork combo shown in 
> several photos and elsewhere in my stream let me know, I may be willing to 
> sell it for a reasonable price. It's not show quality and has had some 
> modifications, but is a great bike and I'm leaning towards picking up a 
> Yuba Mundo frameset to replace the Trek's child-toting duty.
>  
> Thanks for your consideration, contact me on or offlist w/ any questions.
>  
> Best,
> Eric 
>

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[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes - Mark's Bontrager

[velomann]

And that's one reason I also love this list - the Rock Lobster NonTrager "rant" 
and the Bontrager Ti 69er conversion thread were great reads I never would have 
found otherwise - thanks for the links!

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Re: [RBW] Midwest Rivendell and Country Bike Rally, June 1-2

[Eric Platt]

There are a couple of hotels in Preston.  Country Trails & Inn is on the
north side of town and is good.  There is also the Trailhead Inn which is
next to the Root River trail and looks adequate, although I've never stayed
there.  The town has a grocery store and one or two restaurants, although
the best one is at the top of a really, really steep climb north of town.
The Forestville area is about 14 miles away.  The Old Barn campground and
resort are about 10 miles east of Preston and is on the Root River Trail.
They have a big campground and restaurant and a hostel.  Never stayed there
but ridden by it a lot.  (For those who know the area, it's the resort next
to the big rock cut west of Lanesboro on the Root River trail.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> A 2-day ride June 1-2 starting and ending in Spring Valley, MN. Here's a
> decent motel in Spring Valley.
> http://www.springvalleyinnsuites.com/
>
> We'll probably overnight on June 1 in Preston, MN, after about 40-45 miles
> of riding. There are a couple lodging and dining options there, but I'll
> have to ask around a bit to get suggestions. Maybe one of you has inside
> info about Preston? For campers, Forestville Mystery Cave State Park is a
> few miles outside of Preston, and there are some private campgrounds nearer
> to the town. I'll look into camping options and reservations.
>
> On June 2, we'll regroup and take a circuitous route back to Spring Valley
> for another 40-50 miles.
>
> This part of Minnesota is well known (to those in the know) for its bluffs
> and its rustic gravel roads, and we'd be foolish to not take advantage of
> those amenities. I suggest leaving single-speeds or skinny tires at home.
> Any Rivendell-style country bike with 32 mm tires (or bigger) and a wide
> gear range should be suitable. We'll pass through several small towns that
> have restaurants, so carrying lots of food won't be necessary.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Bombadil - Price Drop

[Marty]

FFHS now $2,100.00. Next week another hundred off if it lasts. Also will begin 
to sell parts next week, let me know what you may need. If you have sent me a 
note already I'll be in touch. Thanks.

Marty

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