date:20130225

Sorry, try it now:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413?authkey=Gv1sRgCO_J2LeRoK74Cw

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick your page cannot be found. Love to pics of your adventure. At
least you had your brother along to share the experience.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:09:37 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE
**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low budget
Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between Corrales
and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And goatheads.
My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me, despite
flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire. Eastbound I
spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong NWesterly, but we
tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised and exposed service
roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was easy.

Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies,
my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we
grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

Good photos -- thanks for posting them.

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 Wow!looks like you guys had a great time.   Manny,  super pics as
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

2013-02-25 Thread Lyle Bogart

Nice pics, Patrick--makes me miss being in Chinle, AZ where I developed an
affinity for deep sand and goatheads :) I've got to move back to the 'Rez
someday. . .

Cheers!

lyle

On 25 February 2013 09:29, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, try it now:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413?authkey=Gv1sRgCO_J2LeRoK74Cw

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick your page cannot be found. Love to pics of your adventure. At
least you had your brother along to share the experience.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:09:37 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**
NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low
budget Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between
Corrales and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And
goatheads. My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me,
despite flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire.
Eastbound I spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong
NWesterly, but we tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised
and exposed service roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was
easy.

Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies,
my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we
grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

Thanks -- they would have been better with a real camera. Yes, this is
Men's Country (capital initials) where your eyes tear with the wind and
your tires bog in the sand and goatheads attack in legions and the weak
perish. Or something.

Patrick Moore, who finds that he needs a gear between the current 65 and
58 for just such riding just north of ABQ, NM, Sandoval Country, USA.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice pics, Patrick--makes me miss being in Chinle, AZ where I developed an
affinity for deep sand and goatheads :) I've got to move back to the 'Rez
someday. . .

Cheers!

lyle

On 25 February 2013 09:29, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, try it now:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413?authkey=Gv1sRgCO_J2LeRoK74Cw

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick your page cannot be found. Love to pics of your adventure. At
least you had your brother along to share the experience.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:09:37 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**
NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low
budget Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between
Corrales and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And
goatheads. My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me,
despite flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire.
Eastbound I spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong
NWesterly, but we tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised
and exposed service roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was
easy.

Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies,
my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we
grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

Speaking of a sub 65 more-than-58 gear: is the overall width of a 9 speed
Shimano cassette (backside of inner/big cog to outside of outer/small cog)
the same width *overall* as an 8 speed cassette? If so, I can add a 18
between the 17 and 19 without losing one on the high or low end.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:46 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick Moore, who finds that he needs a gear between the current 65 and
58 for just such riding just north of ABQ, NM, Sandoval Country, USA.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice pics, Patrick--makes me miss being in Chinle, AZ where I developed
an affinity for deep sand and goatheads :) I've got to move back to the
'Rez someday. . .

Cheers!

lyle

On 25 February 2013 09:29, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, try it now:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413?authkey=Gv1sRgCO_J2LeRoK74Cw

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:

Patrick your page cannot be found. Love to pics of your adventure. At
least you had your brother along to share the experience.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:09:37 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**
NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low
budget Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between
Corrales and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And
goatheads. My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me,
despite flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire.
Eastbound I spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong
NWesterly, but we tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised
and exposed service roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was
easy.

Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph
NWesterlies, my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest
paceline
as we grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

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[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-25 Thread Ron Mc

I have really enjoyed the links and references on this thread. Throwing
out a usage consideration, though. It's entirely possible to live two
weeks out of a 25-lb. pack. So, messengers notwithstanding, what is a
real-world capacity requirement for a front rack? For me, a min-sized
front rack, 11-liter rando bag with Bertoud decaleur covers all
my foreseen needs. Certainly not the biggest bang for the buck, but
convenient, and even classy.

On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:28:40 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:

Pass Stow Rack meets every criteria save price - even price is fine if you
consider quality, utility and durability.
On Friday, February 22, 2013 12:07:36 PM UTC-6, Edwin W wrote:

Anybody used that with Riv mid forks?
6. I looked at Jenny's Hilsen on the staff bikes page and she said
she used this Sun-Lite QR
rackhttp://sunlitecycling.com/product_detail.php?short_code=QR-TEC+Front+Rackcl1=RACKS+FOR+BIKES-
I'd rather bolt it than use up the quick release, as it would then no
longer release, quickly!
7. General considerations
1. Price
2. Weight (not of the rack, but capability - I usually throw my
work bag in there and sometimes up to a case of beer - 20-30lb)
3. Can I attach a front headlight? I am loving the BM IQ fly RT
from Peter White.
4. And of course quality and longevity, but I have had basic cheap
racks last a long time in my daily commute needs.
8. I think the new Sam's have two eyelets on each side up front,
which would probably have solved everything!

Other suggestions?
Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis
a picture of where I am, mid-build.

Thanks in advance.

Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget
Nashville, TN

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread cyclotourist

Great minds apparently think alike, you two! 40 sounds a lot more fun!


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Mike you must have replying while I was. That's exactly what I was
 thinking and yes the bulk of ruins are in that stretch.

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA


 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:59:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 ...we could park at Templin hwy and ride out and back to Sandberg ruins.
 about 40 miles and 1400 ft of climbing?

 this covers most Historical parts and misses the big climb out of
 Castaic.  No food or  or water along this section.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:20:53 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 70 miles + climbing is more than I got in me, at least for the
 foreseeable future. Take lots of pictures!!!


 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mike Schiller 
 mikey...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there
 since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up
  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a
 lot of climbing.
 We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the
 mountains east of the Ridge Route.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

Thanks, Steve. Actually, I want to know if the inner and outer rear
derailleur travel limits will remain the same for the 9 speed as for an 8
speed. If so, that means I can convert my Big Apple wheelset to a 9 while
leaving the Kojak wheel an 8, and yet not have to fiddle with the rd limit
screws.

I should have been more clear; I do know that the 9 will fit on the same
freehub body.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2013-02-25 at 07:49 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
  Speaking of a sub 65 more-than-58 gear: is the overall width of a 9
  speed Shimano cassette (backside of inner/big cog to outside of
  outer/small cog) the same width *overall* as an 8 speed cassette?

 yes


  If so, I can add a 18 between the 17 and 19 without losing one on the
  high or low end.

 You are considering going from an 8 to a 9?  Piece of cake.  If
 indexing, you need a new shifter and of course a new cassette and chain.
 If you have a friction shifter, are skilled enough to make it work, and
 do not plan to go index, all you need are the chain and cassette.
 Contrary to what Shimano said at the time, derailleurs and chain rings
 made for 8 work perfectly with 9.






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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Mike Schiller

Actually the best riding are the dirt roads that cross Sawmill Mtn near the 
top of the Ridge Route or  Fish Creek canyon  that crosses over to Warm 
Springs. I've done many loops and rides in those areas over the years, many 
on my rigid Bridgestone MB2 and later on my Hillborne and Ram.

~mike


  

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[RBW] 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

2013-02-25 Thread Earl Grey

Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her 
Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack 
to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the 
Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from 
Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of 
photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 
straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass 
mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside 
part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more 
rigid/sturdy. 

Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance 
(Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the 
two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long 
straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do 
you like it? Is it sturdier? 

I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late here 
(Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. 

Thanks!

Gernot

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[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

2013-02-25 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Hi Gernot,
There was an earlier discussion on alternative installs for Mark's Rack 
(including your question on struts to dropout eyelets): 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5waTg7bA4co/discussion

I'd just try it out either way. Attaching both struts to the outside eyelet 
(like Miesha's) is a simpler installation than one strut inside, the other 
outside. I don't think it will make it more rigid/sturdy, but maybe 
someone's tried it and can chime in.

If the intended use if for  4.4lbs, you may want to consider a different 
rack (like Nitto Front Rack, porteur rack, Paul's Rack, etc.).


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 Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her 
 Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack 
 to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the 
 Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from 
 Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of 
 photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 
 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass 
 mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside 
 part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more 
 rigid/sturdy. 

 Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance 
 (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the 
 two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long 
 straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do 
 you like it? Is it sturdier? 

 I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late here 
 (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. 

 Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

2013-02-25 Thread Earl Grey

Shoji,

thanks for the link to the previous discussion. I did search the group 
before posting (honest!) but poor keyword choice, I guess. Interesting that 
the inside mount option didn't come up, though. 

The problem with trying it both ways is that that requires straight struts 
for the outside mount, and bent ones for the inside. 

Cheers,

Gernot


On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:51:37 PM UTC+7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Gernot,
 There was an earlier discussion on alternative installs for Mark's Rack 
 (including your question on struts to dropout eyelets): 
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5waTg7bA4co/discussion

 I'd just try it out either way. Attaching both struts to the outside 
 eyelet (like Miesha's) is a simpler installation than one strut inside, the 
 other outside. I don't think it will make it more rigid/sturdy, but maybe 
 someone's tried it and can chime in.

 If the intended use if for  4.4lbs, you may want to consider a different 
 rack (like Nitto Front Rack, porteur rack, Paul's Rack, etc.).


 On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:33:27 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote:

 Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her 
 Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack 
 to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the 
 Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from 
 Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of 
 photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 
 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass 
 mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside 
 part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more 
 rigid/sturdy. 

 Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance 
 (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the 
 two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long 
 straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do 
 you like it? Is it sturdier? 

 I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late 
 here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. 

 Thanks!

 Gernot



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[RBW] tanaka fenders

2013-02-25 Thread Seth Vidal

Has anyone here installed these on a riv?
http://store.somafab.com/taaltrfe.html

I'm thinking of a set for the hilsen over some jack brown tires. I'm kinda
curious how much of a pain they are to install.

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] tanaka fenders

And they come in a moderate 559 size -- great! and the price is not bad.

I'll be curious to learn of anyone's experience about the quality and fit.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone here installed these on a riv?
 http://store.somafab.com/taaltrfe.html

 I'm thinking of a set for the hilsen over some jack brown tires. I'm kinda
 curious how much of a pain they are to install.

 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

2013-02-25 Thread Earl Grey

Well, 

I am still up, and Mark got in early to WHQ, so Rivendell is putting a 
couple of previously cut straight struts into my order (thanks!) along with 
the bent ones I ordered before I started rethinking all this. I won't get 
them for a month or so (Thailand), but will report back on straight struts 
vs bent mounted to the inside of the fork braze-ons for all of you waiting 
with bated breath. :) FWIW, Mark's answer was that they simply hadn't tried 
using the bent ones on the inside, but that he thought it should work. 

Gernot

On Monday, February 25, 2013 11:03:41 PM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote:

 Shoji,

 thanks for the link to the previous discussion. I did search the group 
 before posting (honest!) but poor keyword choice, I guess. Interesting that 
 the inside mount option didn't come up, though. 

 The problem with trying it both ways is that that requires straight struts 
 for the outside mount, and bent ones for the inside. 

 Cheers,

 Gernot


 On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:51:37 PM UTC+7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Gernot,
 There was an earlier discussion on alternative installs for Mark's Rack 
 (including your question on struts to dropout eyelets): 
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5waTg7bA4co/discussion

 I'd just try it out either way. Attaching both struts to the outside 
 eyelet (like Miesha's) is a simpler installation than one strut inside, the 
 other outside. I don't think it will make it more rigid/sturdy, but maybe 
 someone's tried it and can chime in.

 If the intended use if for  4.4lbs, you may want to consider a 
 different rack (like Nitto Front Rack, porteur rack, Paul's Rack, etc.).


 On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:33:27 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote:

 Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her 
 Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack 
 to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the 
 Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from 
 Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of 
 photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 
 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass 
 mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside 
 part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more 
 rigid/sturdy. 

 Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance 
 (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the 
 two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long 
 straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do 
 you like it? Is it sturdier? 

 I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late 
 here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. 

 Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-25 Thread Peter Pesce

Not sure how the 25lb pack thing is relevant. The OP said he wanted to
carry a case of beer on his front rack.

On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:02:55 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:28:40 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:

Pass Stow Rack meets every criteria save price - even price is fine if
you consider quality, utility and durability.
On Friday, February 22, 2013 12:07:36 PM UTC-6, Edwin W wrote:

Anybody used that with Riv mid forks?
6. I looked at Jenny's Hilsen on the staff bikes page and she said
she used this Sun-Lite QR
rackhttp://sunlitecycling.com/product_detail.php?short_code=QR-TEC+Front+Rackcl1=RACKS+FOR+BIKES-
I'd rather bolt it than use up the quick release, as it would then no
longer release, quickly!
7. General considerations
1. Price
2. Weight (not of the rack, but capability - I usually throw my
work bag in there and sometimes up to a case of beer - 20-30lb)
3. Can I attach a front headlight? I am loving the BM IQ fly RT
from Peter White.
4. And of course quality and longevity, but I have had basic
cheap racks last a long time in my daily commute needs.
8. I think the new Sam's have two eyelets on each side up front,
which would probably have solved everything!

Other suggestions?
Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis
a picture of where I am, mid-build.

Thanks in advance.

Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget
Nashville, TN

Re: [RBW] tanaka fenders

2013-02-25 Thread franklyn

Though I haven't installed a pair on a Riv, I have installed two pairs, one 
on a Raleigh One-Way and the other on my repainted 80's Specialized 
Sequoia. Pictures are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157632662017902/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157622864069891/

They are as much or as little pain as installing Honjo, VO, and Berthoud 
metal fenders. For both bikes I used 700x45mm alloy fenders, and the front 
one is significantly shorter than its Honjo and VO counterparts. You can 
get them at a price cheaper than SKS chromoplastic fenders from Tree Fort 
Bikes or Outside Outfitters. (I got mine for under $40 before shipping).

best,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:12:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 And they come in a moderate 559 size -- great! and the price is not bad.

 I'll be curious to learn of anyone's experience about the quality and fit. 

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  wrote:

 Has anyone here installed these on a riv?
 http://store.somafab.com/taaltrfe.html

 I'm thinking of a set for the hilsen over some jack brown tires. I'm 
 kinda curious how much of a pain they are to install.

 Thanks,
 -sv

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[RBW] WTB 52cm Sam any color but prefers blue with cream head tube

2013-02-25 Thread James Chang

Hi all,

A friend of mine is looking for a 52cm Sam complete bike.  Please let me
know if you have one that you are consider selling.  My friend is based in
San Luis Obispo, CA so prefer seller anywhere between the Bay Area and LA
for F2F transaction.

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] tanaka fenders

2013-02-25 Thread Seth Vidal

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote:

 Though I haven't installed a pair on a Riv, I have installed two pairs,
 one on a Raleigh One-Way and the other on my repainted 80's Specialized
 Sequoia. Pictures are here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157632662017902/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157622864069891/

 They are as much or as little pain as installing Honjo, VO, and Berthoud
 metal fenders. For both bikes I used 700x45mm alloy fenders, and the front
 one is significantly shorter than its Honjo and VO counterparts. You can
 get them at a price cheaper than SKS chromoplastic fenders from Tree Fort
 Bikes or Outside Outfitters. (I got mine for under $40 before shipping).


So you would definitely recommend a mudflap on the front one, I assume.

I'm debating between these and just going with another set of longboards.

any thoughts?
-sv

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[RBW] Re: WTB 52cm Sam any color but prefers blue with cream head tube

2013-02-25 Thread James Chang

Just to add that his PBH is around 79 ~ 80cm.  Thanks again for looking.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM, James Chang lohech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 A friend of mine is looking for a 52cm Sam complete bike.  Please let me
 know if you have one that you are consider selling.  My friend is based in
 San Luis Obispo, CA so prefer seller anywhere between the Bay Area and LA
 for F2F transaction.

 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

I'm not the same Patrick, but try this link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/CORRALESBOSQUEJUSTEASTOFCORRALESROAD061512

With abandon,
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On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:09:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

 I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low budget 
 Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between Corrales 
 and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And goatheads. 
 My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me, despite 
 flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire. Eastbound I 
 spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong NWesterly, but we 
 tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised and exposed service 
 roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was easy.

 Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies, my 
 brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we grunted 
 along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

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[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

Hello! This is my first post here. I've owned my Hunqapillar for nearly a 
year and love it! 

I ride fat Duremes on my Hunq and did a stretch of 6-8 snow on a steepish 
fire road I regularly ride. Walked it up, rode it down. Any tips for 
keeping the brakes from freezing up so they just glide over the rims? It 
was 15˚F and the scary part was the ineffectual brakes. Pumping and hard 
braking kept them mostly functional after a few ice glide times. The 
powdered snow just gets in there and reduces friction a lot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:56:55 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Yes, for that ride the knobbies will be fine.I need to get something like 
 the Dureme or Little Ben for touring.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:38:59 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

 Mke:

 That came out great looking.  Can't wait to see it in person.  You plan 
 on using this one on Thursday?

 dougP

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:40:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I was out this afternoon for the 1st ride on the new bike, a custom bike 
 for mixed terrain rides and light touring. Pretty fun riding singletrack at 
 Calaveras with all the full suspension MTB's.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/8504642733/in/photostream

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:49:59 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Mike, yeah it was a great day! I'll be down your way soon, love the 
 rides down there. You getting one in today?

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:39:45 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Looks like a fun ride Hugh. Really nice day in So Cal.  

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[RBW] Re: FS 54cm Ram frame + fork

2013-02-25 Thread trek610

wow is that pretty - @ 5'6 it is just to big for me.  650B would be great


On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:49:52 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:

 Update:

 After a few requests I have decided to offer the bike complete as well. 

 Standard-ish riv build:  
 54cm toyo built ram
 42 noodles/tech deluxe/ultegra headset,rd/friction dt shifter/700x35 
 paselas/105/araya wheels/ etc.

 $1000 Shipped F/F/Hs
 $1500 Shipped Complete

 Thanks - more details/offers/etc offlist.

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Re: [RBW] tanaka fenders

Great, thanks. They are shorter, but not as short as many plastic fenders,
and I always install mudflaps.

How does the quality -- gauge of the metal, design and quality of the
fittings -- compare with Honjos or Berthouds? (VO's, at least the pair I
bought 3 years or so ago, is not as good, but for the price acceptable.)

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote:

 Though I haven't installed a pair on a Riv, I have installed two pairs,
 one on a Raleigh One-Way and the other on my repainted 80's Specialized
 Sequoia. Pictures are here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157632662017902/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157622864069891/

 They are as much or as little pain as installing Honjo, VO, and Berthoud
 metal fenders. For both bikes I used 700x45mm alloy fenders, and the front
 one is significantly shorter than its Honjo and VO counterparts. You can
 get them at a price cheaper than SKS chromoplastic fenders from Tree Fort
 Bikes or Outside Outfitters. (I got mine for under $40 before shipping).

 best,
 Franklyn
 Berkeley, CA

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:12:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 And they come in a moderate 559 size -- great! and the price is not bad.

 I'll be curious to learn of anyone's experience about the quality and
 fit.

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Seth Vidal skv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone here installed these on a riv?
 http://store.somafab.com/**taaltrfe.htmlhttp://store.somafab.com/taaltrfe.html

 I'm thinking of a set for the hilsen over some jack brown tires. I'm
 kinda curious how much of a pain they are to install.

 Thanks,
 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

The link to yesterday's ride is now public. This other link is to a similar
ride I did back in June of last year. Odd, despite the summer and dryer
weather, there was less sand than there was yesterday.

Is Deacon a name or a title?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

I'm not the same Patrick, but try this link:

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/CORRALESBOSQUEJUSTEASTOFCORRALESROAD061512

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:09:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE
**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies,
my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we
grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

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[RBW] Re: Mixed Terrain Mt. Tam Loop

2013-02-25 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

There are so many options when you roll up onto Mt. Tam.  We ascended 
Railroad Grade from Mill Valley, then picked up Hoo Koo Ee Koo Fire Road, 
which brings you around to the east face of the Mountain.  I will say that 
it's the east face which provides the steepest pitches.  HKEK terminates at 
Blithedale Ridge, and you could either climb (briefly: steeply) Indian Fire 
road which (after a good climb) connects with Eldridge Grade (which can 
drop down to Lake Lagunitas or climb to the East Peak of Mt. Tam.  We 
descended via Blithedale Ridge, which can be reasonably hairy - especially 
mid summer when trail conditions degrade.  It's generally steep, loose, 
rutted and off-camber, especially at the top.  

We dropped down, then climbed up towards Corte Madera Ridge (still 
technically on Blithedale), then followed Blithedale down towards Mill 
Valley.  It had probably been 20 years since I followed that all the way 
down (used to divert up CM Ridge), and led us down one exit early - which 
put us into downtown Mill Valley rather than over by the Golf Course.  

- J

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:04:04 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 I saw these. Looks like a good route you need to show me next time!

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:25:57 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Not too many Homer shots as I was taking the pictures, but connected 
 with JimG and Stork for a Railroad Grade Redux - reliving the glory loop 
 of Cyclotouring/BikeTinker/Gino.  

 As Manny oft opines - 


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157632847908992/with/8501884081/


 - Jim / cyclofiend.com



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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread dougP

I'm up for this.  I recall that LA Times article a while back.  Look 
forward to Hugh's report.  Mike, sounds like you may already have it 
wired.  

dougP

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:12:48 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there 
 since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up 
  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a 
 lot of climbing. 
 We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the 
 mountains east of the Ridge Route.

 ~mike




  

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[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-25 Thread Minh

Peter P.

He mentions in the original post 20-30lbs (not sure how a case of beer
equates 20-30lbs but he did mention it).

I think this is a great thread to illustrate all the options for a front
rack, but i question the motivation of cheap and strong and good looking.
I read a mixed set of motivations here, you can find an affordable option
like the blackburn, but if you're the type of person to think what-if down
the road, i suggest just going with the pass stow, the paul's etc to
settle that lingering doubt. if deep down you want one of those go for
it.

PS. have you actually carried 20-30lbs on the front of your bike that
high? i have a nitto big front and don't even try to carry that much!

On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:07:36 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:

Other suggestions?
Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis a
picture of where I am, mid-build.

Thanks in advance.

Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget
Nashville, TN

[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

2013-02-25 Thread Minh

Looks like fun! i stopped by the shop friday afternoon to pick up some bar 
tape (first time in 10+ years i've stopped by the shop) and while i was 
able to find the shop, it felt quite different--mainly all the staff and 
all the bikes.  Really surprised by all the demo bikes in the shop, if i 
wasn't wearing my work clothes i would've taken the Roadeo for a spin!  

On Monday, February 11, 2013 2:17:29 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in a 
 couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  So 
 it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!  

 Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?  
 And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over 
 boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need 
 to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light 
 camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing 
 a bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally 
 rainy, bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I 
 ride in snow. 

 Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe in 
 the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).

 Can't wait, Liesl


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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

The Pass and Stow rack is very nice, but I question the wizdom of carrying
such big loads on a high trail bike like the Sam Hill. Even on my low trail
Herse, putting 25 lb on the Pass and Stow made handling awkward.

Patrick God decreed that heavy loads go on the rear Moore who recently
carried 54 lb front and rear but mostly in the rear on his Fargo in ABQ,
NM, USA.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

Peter P.

He mentions in the original post 20-30lbs (not sure how a case of beer
equates 20-30lbs but he did mention it).

PS. have you actually carried 20-30lbs on the front of your bike that
high? i have a nitto big front and don't even try to carry that much!

On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:07:36 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:

1. I have a Soma mini front
rackhttp://store.somafab.com/somialfrra.html,
with a Wald 139 zip tied on, but it is too short to clear 38mm tires and
fenders. I have it p-clambed to my current bike and that works ok, but
feels more wobbly than if it were bolted on, I think. Is there a way to
extend the legs? I was thinking of a connector between the rack and
eyelet,
but I think a joint there would be prone to flex with weight.
2. The Mark's rack would be great in theory, but expensive and only
is expected to take 4.4 pounds.
3. Anyone had any experience with this dutch
rackhttp://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.php?route=product/productpath=38product_id=187?
They sell it in the US
herehttp://rollingorangebikes.com/front-carrier-steco/.
Shipping/importing makes it pricey. Pros - sturdy as heck. Cons - a bit
overbuilt? Damage to headtube?
4. I looked at these racks from
Racktimehttp://www.ebikestop.com/racktime_topit_universal_front_mount_rack_silver-RK7206.php?PARTNER=GOOGPSgclid=CMz2mIe8yrUCFQ7NnAodaWcAhA.
Never heard of that seller. All the
pictureshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/geiranders/5134857957/in/photostream/I
have seen set them pretty high. Anybody used one on a Sam? How are the
Sam mid-fork braze-ons in terms of height compared to other manufacturers?

Thishttp://twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/2010/10/top-racks-and-mid-fork-bosses/review
of racks says Rivendell's are higher than others. True?
5. Reading that review made me look at this
Blackburnhttp://www.blackburndesign.com/racks/front-racks/mtf-1-front.html.
Anybody used that with Riv mid forks?
6. I looked at Jenny's Hilsen on the staff bikes page and she said
she used this Sun-Lite QR
rackhttp://sunlitecycling.com/product_detail.php?short_code=QR-TEC+Front+Rackcl1=RACKS+FOR+BIKES-
I'd rather bolt it than use up the quick release, as it would then no
longer release, quickly!
7. General considerations
1. Price
2. Weight (not of the rack, but capability - I usually throw my
work bag in there and sometimes up to a case of beer - 20-30lb)
3. Can I attach a front headlight? I am loving the BM IQ fly RT
from Peter White.
4. And of course quality and longevity, but I have had basic cheap
racks last a long time in my daily commute needs.
8. I think the new Sam's have two eyelets on each side up front,
which would probably have solved everything!

Other suggestions?
Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis
a picture of where I am, mid-build.

Thanks in advance.

Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget
Nashville, TN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Bryan

For some reason, I've been daydreaming about the Ridge Route area myself 
lately! It's hard for me to motivate to take a bike ride that involves a 
car, though, especially since I share one car with my wife and kids. I 
can't complain, with the Santa Monica Mountains and Topanga State Park so 
close by. But I would like to see some new terrain, so an intriguing ride 
report might give me the motivation to explore.

Nice to see your photos of the LA River path, Hugh. I rode that path for 
the first time a couple of weeks ago, and it's great to see the LA River 
actually start to look like a normal river in places.  

Jim - I lived for a number of years in Milwaukee, and I do miss the 
character building riding during the winter. Then again, bike commuting 
in LA provides plenty of character building in its own way : )

Bryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very close 
to this:
http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
interested in the ride

Rob
oceanaircycles.com
Ventura, Ca

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
 Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
 from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
 historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
 disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
 like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
 weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
 the feasibility and worthiness.

  

 Hugh

 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
 me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
 Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)

 @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
 snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yeah, snow bike for the win!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/

 (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
 the ground... scary!)


 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote:

 Jim:

 You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
 see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
 up 
 those fat bikes.  

 dougP


 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 I love your bike Hugh!

 Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
 character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.

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[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty

Post pictures.  I bought a pair of long straight ones on Saturday before 
the S24O because I'm going to do the four strut setup on a Betty.  

On Monday, February 25, 2013 8:17:29 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote:

 Well, 

 I am still up, and Mark got in early to WHQ, so Rivendell is putting a 
 couple of previously cut straight struts into my order (thanks!) along with 
 the bent ones I ordered before I started rethinking all this. I won't get 
 them for a month or so (Thailand), but will report back on straight struts 
 vs bent mounted to the inside of the fork braze-ons for all of you waiting 
 with bated breath. :) FWIW, Mark's answer was that they simply hadn't tried 
 using the bent ones on the inside, but that he thought it should work. 

 Gernot

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 11:03:41 PM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote:

 Shoji,

 thanks for the link to the previous discussion. I did search the group 
 before posting (honest!) but poor keyword choice, I guess. Interesting that 
 the inside mount option didn't come up, though. 

 The problem with trying it both ways is that that requires straight 
 struts for the outside mount, and bent ones for the inside. 

 Cheers,

 Gernot


 On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:51:37 PM UTC+7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Gernot,
 There was an earlier discussion on alternative installs for Mark's Rack 
 (including your question on struts to dropout eyelets): 
 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5waTg7bA4co/discussion

 I'd just try it out either way. Attaching both struts to the outside 
 eyelet (like Miesha's) is a simpler installation than one strut inside, the 
 other outside. I don't think it will make it more rigid/sturdy, but maybe 
 someone's tried it and can chime in.

 If the intended use if for  4.4lbs, you may want to consider a 
 different rack (like Nitto Front Rack, porteur rack, Paul's Rack, etc.).


 On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:33:27 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote:

 Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to 
 her Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the 
 rack to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the 
 Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts 
 from 
 Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of 
 photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 
 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass 
 mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the 
 inside 
 part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally 
 more 
 rigid/sturdy. 

 Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake 
 clearance (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about 
 using the two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and 
 getting 
 two long straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone 
 done 
 that? Do you like it? Is it sturdier? 

 I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late 
 here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. 

 Thanks!

 Gernot



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[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly 2013

2013-02-25 Thread Andy Williams

33 miles around Bainbridge Island on Sunday, and Chilly Hilly lived up to 
its name, with 42  degrees and a southwest wind that was b.

As Manny says, pictures prove it 
happenedhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/sets/72157632847045107/. 
 Included is the required Rivendell content.

Andy


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[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Hey Deacon, 
I got nothin' for you regarding riding/braking in the snow. This is might 
be a good topic for it's own thread with an appropriate title to lure the 
attention of those who ride in the snow.
--Smitty  

On Monday, February 25, 2013 4:29:16 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hello! This is my first post here. I've owned my Hunqapillar for nearly a 
 year and love it! 

 I ride fat Duremes on my Hunq and did a stretch of 6-8 snow on a steepish 
 fire road I regularly ride. Walked it up, rode it down. Any tips for 
 keeping the brakes from freezing up so they just glide over the rims? It 
 was 15˚F and the scary part was the ineffectual brakes. Pumping and hard 
 braking kept them mostly functional after a few ice glide times. The 
 powdered snow just gets in there and reduces friction a lot.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:56:55 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Yes, for that ride the knobbies will be fine.I need to get something like 
 the Dureme or Little Ben for touring.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:38:59 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

 Mke:

 That came out great looking.  Can't wait to see it in person.  You plan 
 on using this one on Thursday?

 dougP

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:40:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I was out this afternoon for the 1st ride on the new bike, a custom 
 bike for mixed terrain rides and light touring. Pretty fun riding 
 singletrack at Calaveras with all the full suspension MTB's.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/8504642733/in/photostream

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:49:59 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Mike, yeah it was a great day! I'll be down your way soon, love the 
 rides down there. You getting one in today?

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:39:45 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Looks like a fun ride Hugh. Really nice day in So Cal.  

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.




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[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home. 
 Update to the previous post with pictures here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157632857361800/

I am asking $1200 for the frame fork and Stronglight A9 headset with a 
replacement set of bearings.  I will install a new cable guide on the 
bottom bracket and can put on a new clear chain stay protector at your 
request.

For those curios on how the RCP has held up over the years of riding on the 
coast, you can see the photo set from when it was new here: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157622875811028/

Thanks for taking a look

Rob
oceanaircycles.com
Ventura, Ca



On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 I have not been riding my Roadeo at all this year, it has actually been 
 hanging as a frame set since I pirated many of the components off of it for 
 another project.  It is a great bike, but I am at a point where I am 
 thinking of letting it go for the cash flow.  Structurally it is perfect.  
 There was a mishap with a roof rack clamp and the fork, that was repaired 
 by waterford and is good as new.  The down side of the repair was the clear 
 powder came apart on the fork.  I treated it with T9 regularly, and it only 
 saw fair weather duty her in SoCal until my next project was ready, and 
 there is a bit of surface rust, but nothing deep.  The RCP held up pretty 
 well, but there are also some visible areas of pitting.  The bike is a true 
 candidate for a repaint.

 All that considered I am thinking $1200 could get it out of my workspace, 
 you get a great bike, and can get it painted any way you like and still 
 come out hundreds less than a new one

 I will be setting my photo studio back up in a couple of days and will 
 shoot a detailed set of the bike if there is any interest.

 -- 
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 Ventura, Ca
  


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[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-25 Thread Peter Pesce

Minh,

I personally don't really like front loads, perhaps because I've never
tried it on a bike optimized for it.

I've tried baskets. rando bags. even the platrack/slickersack combo, but I
particularly dislike the way the front wheel flops over as soon as you put
a load on it.

The only thing of substance I carry in front any more is my dog, in a wald
basket strapped to a CETMA rack. Since he's small enough to fit in the
basket, he's also small enough to lift up after I've straddled my bike and
stabilized the bars to load him in. It's a pain, but I don't have to do it
that often.

-Pete in CT

On Monday, February 25, 2013 12:23:34 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote:

Peter P.

He mentions in the original post 20-30lbs (not sure how a case of beer
equates 20-30lbs but he did mention it).

PS. have you actually carried 20-30lbs on the front of your bike that
high? i have a nitto big front and don't even try to carry that much!

On Friday, February 22, 2013 1:07:36 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:

Other suggestions?
Herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/8497462361/in/photostreamis
a picture of where I am, mid-build.

Thanks in advance.

Edwin building a Sam on a tight budget
Nashville, TN

[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

2013-02-25 Thread Peter Pesce

Oh boy. My size and the right price. 

Well, the frame is the right price at least. But if I bought it the 
resulting divorce would be very costly!

-Pete in CT

On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:34:37 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote:

 As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home. 
  Update to the previous post with pictures here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157632857361800/

 I am asking $1200 for the frame fork and Stronglight A9 headset with a 
 replacement set of bearings.  I will install a new cable guide on the 
 bottom bracket and can put on a new clear chain stay protector at your 
 request.

 For those curios on how the RCP has held up over the years of riding on 
 the coast, you can see the photo set from when it was new here: 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157622875811028/

 Thanks for taking a look

 Rob
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca



 On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 I have not been riding my Roadeo at all this year, it has actually been 
 hanging as a frame set since I pirated many of the components off of it for 
 another project.  It is a great bike, but I am at a point where I am 
 thinking of letting it go for the cash flow.  Structurally it is perfect.  
 There was a mishap with a roof rack clamp and the fork, that was repaired 
 by waterford and is good as new.  The down side of the repair was the clear 
 powder came apart on the fork.  I treated it with T9 regularly, and it only 
 saw fair weather duty her in SoCal until my next project was ready, and 
 there is a bit of surface rust, but nothing deep.  The RCP held up pretty 
 well, but there are also some visible areas of pitting.  The bike is a true 
 candidate for a repaint.

 All that considered I am thinking $1200 could get it out of my workspace, 
 you get a great bike, and can get it painted any way you like and still 
 come out hundreds less than a new one

 I will be setting my photo studio back up in a couple of days and will 
 shoot a detailed set of the bike if there is any interest.

 -- 
 Rob Perks
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca
  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

2013-02-25 Thread Matthew J

 The Pass and Stow rack is very nice, but I question the wizdom of 
carrying such big loads on a high trail bike like the Sam Hill. Even 
 on my low trail Herse, putting 25 lb on the Pass and Stow made handling 
awkward.
 

Good point.  My Pass Stow experience is on a bike designed for it.

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[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly 2013

2013-02-25 Thread shawn m.

Nice photo of the Pirate Hunqapillar, but I'm probably biased seeing as 
it's my bike and all :) It was a good ride, though the police swarmed our 
whiskey stop and broke up our afterparty before anyone finished the ride. 
It's almost like they knew, somehow...hmm... I suppose after poaching the 
ride (respectfully... we're not really very good pirates) for 8 years it 
wasn't a huge surprise. We decamped for Seattle for an ad hoc afterparty at 
South Lake Union...

What Andy didn't mention is the 'Hilly' bit: about 4000 ft of climbing, up 
to 8.5% grades. Good times!

On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:56:34 AM UTC-8, Andy Williams wrote:

 33 miles around Bainbridge Island on Sunday, and Chilly Hilly lived up to 
 its name, with 42  degrees and a southwest wind that was b.

 As Manny says, pictures prove it 
 happenedhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/sets/72157632847045107/. 
  Included is the required Rivendell content.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-25 Thread redsydude

I think in 2011 their idea was to start with the ca. $1000 Sam Hillborne 
frame/fork, use less expensive cromoly tubing, modify the geometry so you 
could span most PBHs with three sizes and then not paint the bike at all to 
get to $700.  The buyer would spray paint the frame for a few dollars to 
make it look old and increase its theftproofedness.  
On Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:52:32 AM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:

 Materials, labor and transportation costs plus the profit margin added 
 equals the price you pay. Rivs like the Romulus were killer deals but for 
 one reason or another, could not be maintained. Rivs have good paint jobs 
 and you could shave money there by doing something skimpy. Rivs use good 
 quality tubing, and again you could skimp there. Riv could buy in mega 
 volumes which would save per unit costs.  As it happens, it wouldn't 
 reflect the Riv ethos with micro thin paint or clunky tubes or robo-welded 
 joints. The limited market for this type of bike (lugged steel, built for 
 comfort and usefulness) prevents Schwinn-like mass production so no savings 
 there.

 A used riv is your best option for lower price, probably.

 On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:




 .. surely there is a way to make a less costly frame, it's all a matter 
 of their focus to really do it.




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[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

Great suggestion, Andy. Done. Sorry to go off topic.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 25, 2013 11:29:05 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 Hey Deacon, 
 I got nothin' for you regarding riding/braking in the snow. This is might 
 be a good topic for it's own thread with an appropriate title to lure the 
 attention of those who ride in the snow.
 --Smitty  

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 4:29:16 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hello! This is my first post here. I've owned my Hunqapillar for nearly a 
 year and love it! 

 I ride fat Duremes on my Hunq and did a stretch of 6-8 snow on a 
 steepish fire road I regularly ride. Walked it up, rode it down. Any tips 
 for keeping the brakes from freezing up so they just glide over the rims? 
 It was 15˚F and the scary part was the ineffectual brakes. Pumping and hard 
 braking kept them mostly functional after a few ice glide times. The 
 powdered snow just gets in there and reduces friction a lot.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:56:55 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Yes, for that ride the knobbies will be fine.I need to get something 
 like the Dureme or Little Ben for touring.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:38:59 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

 Mke:

 That came out great looking.  Can't wait to see it in person.  You plan 
 on using this one on Thursday?

 dougP

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:40:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I was out this afternoon for the 1st ride on the new bike, a custom 
 bike for mixed terrain rides and light touring. Pretty fun riding 
 singletrack at Calaveras with all the full suspension MTB's.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/8504642733/in/photostream

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:49:59 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Mike, yeah it was a great day! I'll be down your way soon, love the 
 rides down there. You getting one in today?

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:39:45 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 Looks like a fun ride Hugh. Really nice day in So Cal.  

 ~mike
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[RBW] Colorado Bikepacking Routes

I loved riding the off pavement sections of the Great Divide Mountain Bike 
trail that I rode last year. Secluded, quiet, great riding that was 
enjoyable and not technical. Single track trails are fine, but not like the 
more technical Colorado Trail and most hiking trails around here.

Can anyone recommend some backcountry routes that would fit the bill? 
Northern NM and SE Utah are possibilities as well.

Thanks!

With abandon,
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[RBW] Introduction

Hello! I've posted on a few threads, but thought I should officially 
introduce myself.

I bought my Hunqapillar early last Spring, and have been delighted ever 
since. Due to brain injury, I have constant neurological vertigo. I was 
amazed to discover that my bludgeoned brain (see www.MindYourHeadCoop.org) 
and related proprioception via going barefoot had reached a point I could 
actually ride a bike. After testing out several and getting a feel for what 
worked and what was more challenging, I settled on Rivendell for it's 
hearty stiffness and go anywhere I'd be willing to ride capacity. I ride 
either barefoot or in leather soled moccasins on wood platform pedals Grant 
had laying around.

Last Spring and Summer, I was able to ride a number of S20Os as well as 9 
days on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail, going from central Colorado 
to the New Mexico border before a loud motorcycle overloaded my brain on 
one of the few short paved sections.

Having the Hunqa has opened up personal transportation for me (besides 
walking and running), and I love riding it just to ride, or to trail heads 
and running from there, as well as camping (since I can't carry weight 
above my waist, it opens up going bikepacking my with daughters -- a real 
delight!).

I have a few pictures up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.

Deacon is a title. I'm a Catholic deacon.

Looks like a great ride! Reminds me of when we stayed near Abiquiu, NM.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:49:41 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

The link to yesterday's ride is now public. This other link is to a
similar ride I did back in June of last year. Odd, despite the summer and
dryer weather, there was less sand than there was yesterday.

Is Deacon a name or a title?

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
wrote:

I'm not the same Patrick, but try this link:

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/CORRALESBOSQUEJUSTEASTOFCORRALESROAD061512

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:09:37 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**
NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413

I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low
budget Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between
Corrales and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And
goatheads. My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me,
despite flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire.
Eastbound I spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong
NWesterly, but we tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised
and exposed service roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was
easy.

Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies,
my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we
grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s.

-
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For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW
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[RBW] Snow Riding Tips

Living in the mountains of Colorado, snow is a riding reality at least 6 
months out of the year. While I generally avoid the major roads when it's 
snowy for not trusting drivers, I do ride in our wee town, which includes a 
short fire road to the town water tower and a few trail heads.

The main issue I've encountered is brakes that get powered snow under the 
pads and then fail to grip the rim well. Any tips there are greatly 
appreciated.

I've found wet snow not to have this issue, as it acts more like rain on 
the brakes. I ride fat Duremes and have cantilever brakes.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FS -PariMotos, Lumotec IQ Cyo Plus, Ortlieb Pannier

2013-02-25 Thread Scott Postlewait

Selling some items to help fund my recent Hunqapillar project.   

Pacenti Pari-Moto tires, 650B black.  New, from the original order, never been 
mounted. 
$100 for the pair -includes shipping CONUS ($90 if you're in Seattle and can 
pickup)

Lumotec IQ  Cyo Plus dyno light.  Used, I bought this from a list-member a 
while back for a different project and never used it.
$65 - includes shipping CONUS ($60 if you're in Seattle and can pickup)

Ortlieb City Biker QL3 Single Pannier, grey.  Basically new, I used it about 3 
times.
$95 - includes shipping CONUS ($85 if you're in Seattle and can pickup)

Pictures available.  Please respond off-list to chsc...@drizzle.com

Thanks,
Scott Postlewait
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Snow Riding Tips

2013-02-25 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Disc or drum brakes are the answer. 

I also ride a fixed-gear a lot in winter. Since I'm not in the mountains, I 
seldom get enough speed in winter to need much more than back-pressuring on the 
pedals of my fixie.

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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

2013-02-25 Thread Dave

somehow had the permissions off on my flickr set of photos.  All of them 
are publicly visible 
now: www.flickr.com/photos/dave-levin/sets/72157632848382454/

On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:27:07 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:

 Looks like fun! i stopped by the shop friday afternoon to pick up some bar 
 tape (first time in 10+ years i've stopped by the shop) and while i was 
 able to find the shop, it felt quite different--mainly all the staff and 
 all the bikes.  Really surprised by all the demo bikes in the shop, if i 
 wasn't wearing my work clothes i would've taken the Roadeo for a spin!  

 On Monday, February 11, 2013 2:17:29 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in a 
 couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  So 
 it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!  

 Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?  
 And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over 
 boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need 
 to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light 
 camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing 
 a bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally 
 rainy, bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I 
 ride in snow. 

 Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe in 
 the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).

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[RBW] Re: Snow Riding Tips

Thanks. Since it's actually conditions I don't have to ride in (it's a 
short road, 1/2 mile, but steep), I can't justify the switch and I simply 
don't need them otherwise.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:31:29 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Disc or drum brakes are the answer. 

 I also ride a fixed-gear a lot in winter. Since I'm not in the mountains, 
 I seldom get enough speed in winter to need much more than back-pressuring 
 on the pedals of my fixie.


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[RBW] Frame Paint question

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Kirkpatrick

I'm looking at getting a frame powder coated and I want to get the orange used 
on the Quickbeam. I asked at Riv and they said they didn't have a specific code 
for the color.  So has anyone had a bicycle powder coated in that color and 
what did you specify for it? According to Cyclofiend's Touch up Paint page 
Testors Competition Orange is close so I figure I can always bring in a swatch 
of that. But if anyone has had any luck I'd appreciate the info.

thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54cm Ram frame + fork

2013-02-25 Thread Toshi Takeuchi

I ride the same bike with a 79 cm PBH. I'm 5'6 too. It probably has a
77 cm standover with Paselas...

I'm not planning on more kids :).

Toshi

On 2/25/13, trek610 tspin...@gmail.com wrote:
 wow is that pretty - @ 5'6 it is just to big for me.  650B would be great


 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:49:52 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:

 Update:

 After a few requests I have decided to offer the bike complete as well.

 Standard-ish riv build:
 54cm toyo built ram
 42 noodles/tech deluxe/ultegra headset,rd/friction dt shifter/700x35
 paselas/105/araya wheels/ etc.

 $1000 Shipped F/F/Hs
 $1500 Shipped Complete

 Thanks - more details/offers/etc offlist.

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Re: [RBW] Colorado Bikepacking Routes

2013-02-25 Thread Jim Mather

There's a bikepacking forum with lots of ideas for routes, equipment, etc.,
http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/index.php?www

Look at the ultra racing part of the forum for ideas too. The route of the
Colorado Trail Race, for example, would make a good bikepacking trip.

jim m
wc ca

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 I loved riding the off pavement sections of the Great Divide Mountain Bike
 trail that I rode last year. Secluded, quiet, great riding that was
 enjoyable and not technical. Single track trails are fine, but not like the
 more technical Colorado Trail and most hiking trails around here.

 Can anyone recommend some backcountry routes that would fit the bill?
 Northern NM and SE Utah are possibilities as well.

 Thanks!

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-02-25 Thread dougP

Patrick:

Welcome to the group, and congratulations on the Hunqapillar opening up the 
world for you.  

dougP

On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:30:17 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hello! I've posted on a few threads, but thought I should officially 
 introduce myself.

 I bought my Hunqapillar early last Spring, and have been delighted ever 
 since. Due to brain injury, I have constant neurological vertigo. I was 
 amazed to discover that my bludgeoned brain (see www.MindYourHeadCoop.org) 
 and related proprioception via going barefoot had reached a point I could 
 actually ride a bike. After testing out several and getting a feel for what 
 worked and what was more challenging, I settled on Rivendell for it's 
 hearty stiffness and go anywhere I'd be willing to ride capacity. I ride 
 either barefoot or in leather soled moccasins on wood platform pedals Grant 
 had laying around.

 Last Spring and Summer, I was able to ride a number of S20Os as well as 9 
 days on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail, going from central Colorado 
 to the New Mexico border before a loud motorcycle overloaded my brain on 
 one of the few short paved sections.

 Having the Hunqa has opened up personal transportation for me (besides 
 walking and running), and I love riding it just to ride, or to trail heads 
 and running from there, as well as camping (since I can't carry weight 
 above my waist, it opens up going bikepacking my with daughters -- a real 
 delight!).

 I have a few pictures up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

2013-02-25 Thread EastBayGuy

Good Times, Great Bikes, Amazing Views and Great people. I am guessing this 
will not be the Last Group Camp out we have this year.

Here are a few shots of the Trip..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/sets/72157632859830394/

Cheers!

Dustin G

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Hechmer

I saw a video in which a man with Parkinson's that was so far advanced that 
he could not walk, but when put on a bicycle he could ride it.  The brain 
remains a marvelous and mysterious thing.  Glad you have been able to ride 
again.  Enjoy  welcome to the group.

keep the rubber side down,
michael

On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:30:17 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hello! I've posted on a few threads, but thought I should officially 
 introduce myself.

 I bought my Hunqapillar early last Spring, and have been delighted ever 
 since. Due to brain injury, I have constant neurological vertigo. I was 
 amazed to discover that my bludgeoned brain (see www.MindYourHeadCoop.org) 
 and related proprioception via going barefoot had reached a point I could 
 actually ride a bike. After testing out several and getting a feel for what 
 worked and what was more challenging, I settled on Rivendell for it's 
 hearty stiffness and go anywhere I'd be willing to ride capacity. I ride 
 either barefoot or in leather soled moccasins on wood platform pedals Grant 
 had laying around.

 Last Spring and Summer, I was able to ride a number of S20Os as well as 9 
 days on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail, going from central Colorado 
 to the New Mexico border before a loud motorcycle overloaded my brain on 
 one of the few short paved sections.

 Having the Hunqa has opened up personal transportation for me (besides 
 walking and running), and I love riding it just to ride, or to trail heads 
 and running from there, as well as camping (since I can't carry weight 
 above my waist, it opens up going bikepacking my with daughters -- a real 
 delight!).

 I have a few pictures up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: Introduction

Patrick welcome to the group it's a great bunch. I second what Michael 
stated so well, the brain is amazing! I am really happy to hear that a 
bicycle has helped you stay mobile and connected to your daughters. I loved 
the pics of your frozen ride. 

Peace Brother,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, February 25, 2013 3:00:17 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I saw a video in which a man with Parkinson's that was so far advanced 
 that he could not walk, but when put on a bicycle he could ride it.  The 
 brain remains a marvelous and mysterious thing.  Glad you have been able to 
 ride again.  Enjoy  welcome to the group.

 keep the rubber side down,
 michael

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:30:17 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hello! I've posted on a few threads, but thought I should officially 
 introduce myself.

 I bought my Hunqapillar early last Spring, and have been delighted ever 
 since. Due to brain injury, I have constant neurological vertigo. I was 
 amazed to discover that my bludgeoned brain (see www.MindYourHeadCoop.org) 
 and related proprioception via going barefoot had reached a point I could 
 actually ride a bike. After testing out several and getting a feel for what 
 worked and what was more challenging, I settled on Rivendell for it's 
 hearty stiffness and go anywhere I'd be willing to ride capacity. I ride 
 either barefoot or in leather soled moccasins on wood platform pedals Grant 
 had laying around.

 Last Spring and Summer, I was able to ride a number of S20Os as well as 9 
 days on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail, going from central Colorado 
 to the New Mexico border before a loud motorcycle overloaded my brain on 
 one of the few short paved sections.

 Having the Hunqa has opened up personal transportation for me (besides 
 walking and running), and I love riding it just to ride, or to trail heads 
 and running from there, as well as camping (since I can't carry weight 
 above my waist, it opens up going bikepacking my with daughters -- a real 
 delight!).

 I have a few pictures up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

 With abandon,
 Patrick



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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

That's a funny comic :)

On Friday, February 15, 2013 10:29:00 AM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:

 On Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:08:47 PM UTC-5, grant wrote:

 The classic S24O is a stealthy, technically illegal, but not immoral or 
 unethical sleepout in the hills, and works easiest when everybody is tiny, 
 fast, wears black hoodies, and can pedal over rice paper without ripping 
 it. 


 Bike ninjas!

 http://yehudamoon.com/20080126/





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Re: [RBW] Colorado Bikepacking Routes

Thanks, Jim. Brain picking has begun over there!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 25, 2013 2:53:58 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 There's a bikepacking forum with lots of ideas for routes, equipment, 
 etc., 
 http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/index.php?www

 Look at the ultra racing part of the forum for ideas too. The route of the 
 Colorado Trail Race, for example, would make a good bikepacking trip.

 jim m
 wc ca

 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Deacon Patrick 
 lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
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 I loved riding the off pavement sections of the Great Divide Mountain 
 Bike trail that I rode last year. Secluded, quiet, great riding that was 
 enjoyable and not technical. Single track trails are fine, but not like the 
 more technical Colorado Trail and most hiking trails around here.

 Can anyone recommend some backcountry routes that would fit the bill? 
 Northern NM and SE Utah are possibilities as well.

 Thanks!

 With abandon,
 Patrick
  
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

Thanks for the wonderful welcome all! The brain is indeed a wondrous 
beastie!

It may seem small, but one of the ways the Hunqa helps is it allows me to 
get through our wee town of 700 year round residents and their laundry 
scents that make it hard for me to run through town. I get though quickly 
and to the trail heads a mile and a half away.

May God startle you with joy!

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Monday, February 25, 2013 4:11:28 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Patrick welcome to the group it's a great bunch. I second what Michael 
 stated so well, the brain is amazing! I am really happy to hear that a 
 bicycle has helped you stay mobile and connected to your daughters. I loved 
 the pics of your frozen ride. 

 Peace Brother,

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 3:00:17 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I saw a video in which a man with Parkinson's that was so far advanced 
 that he could not walk, but when put on a bicycle he could ride it.  The 
 brain remains a marvelous and mysterious thing.  Glad you have been able to 
 ride again.  Enjoy  welcome to the group.

 keep the rubber side down,
 michael

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:30:17 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hello! I've posted on a few threads, but thought I should officially 
 introduce myself.

 I bought my Hunqapillar early last Spring, and have been delighted ever 
 since. Due to brain injury, I have constant neurological vertigo. I was 
 amazed to discover that my bludgeoned brain (see 
 www.MindYourHeadCoop.org) and related proprioception via going barefoot 
 had reached a point I could actually ride a bike. After testing out several 
 and getting a feel for what worked and what was more challenging, I settled 
 on Rivendell for it's hearty stiffness and go anywhere I'd be willing to 
 ride capacity. I ride either barefoot or in leather soled moccasins on wood 
 platform pedals Grant had laying around.

 Last Spring and Summer, I was able to ride a number of S20Os as well as 
 9 days on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail, going from central Colorado 
 to the New Mexico border before a loud motorcycle overloaded my brain on 
 one of the few short paved sections.

 Having the Hunqa has opened up personal transportation for me (besides 
 walking and running), and I love riding it just to ride, or to trail heads 
 and running from there, as well as camping (since I can't carry weight 
 above my waist, it opens up going bikepacking my with daughters -- a real 
 delight!).

 I have a few pictures up here: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

 With abandon,
 Patrick



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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

Dustin

I'm starting a list:

Things you cannot bring on a campout wrapped in bacon

The list is empty so far.  I'm sure I will think of something.

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Re: [RBW] Frame Paint question

2013-02-25 Thread robert zeidler

Send it to Bilenky. Very good work.

On Monday, February 25, 2013, Robert Kirkpatrick wrote:

 I'm looking at getting a frame powder coated and I want to get the orange
 used on the Quickbeam. I asked at Riv and they said they didn't have a
 specific code for the color.  So has anyone had a bicycle powder coated in
 that color and what did you specify for it? According to Cyclofiend's Touch
 up Paint page Testors Competition Orange is close so I figure I can always
 bring in a swatch of that. But if anyone has had any luck I'd appreciate
 the info.

 thanks,
 Robert

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[RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

@ Dave, great pictures! Inspires me to so a SoCal S240. Humm yeah I'm gonna 
do it.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:06:49 PM UTC-8, Dave wrote:

 somehow had the permissions off on my flickr set of photos.  All of them 
 are publicly visible now: 
 www.flickr.com/photos/dave-levin/sets/72157632848382454/

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:27:07 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:

 Looks like fun! i stopped by the shop friday afternoon to pick up some 
 bar tape (first time in 10+ years i've stopped by the shop) and while i was 
 able to find the shop, it felt quite different--mainly all the staff and 
 all the bikes.  Really surprised by all the demo bikes in the shop, if i 
 wasn't wearing my work clothes i would've taken the Roadeo for a spin!  

 On Monday, February 11, 2013 2:17:29 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Yes, Manny.  My dreams are telling me to go camping when I visit Riv in 
 a couple weeks.  Jenny RCW-West has also chimed in that she wants to go.  
 So it's an Official Riv Chica Warrior Jamboree!  

 Can I suggest a route that is not too long—maybe 20-30 miles each way?  
 And not too technical as in a traverse along 40 degree inclines over 
 boulders and tree stumps.  And accessible from Walnut Creek as I would need 
 to beg a bike from Riv.  I am *all in* on this and willing to pack a light 
 camping kit in a duffle for the plane, although would also welcome sharing 
 a bunk in a 2-3 person tent if this is a possibility.  If it's totally 
 rainy, bets are off; however, cooler temps are not an obstacle for me as I 
 ride in snow. 

 Who's in on this caper?  You don't have to be a RCW—yet!  Just believe 
 in the RCW Credo (which we'll have to come up with during the Jamboree).

 Can't wait, Liesl



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[RBW] Expressing gratitude for efficiency in shipping packaging

Even though I'm local, I do sometimes have Rivendell ship orders to me. 
 Like most of you, I'm a fan of the packaging efficiency.  It was fun on 
the S24O this weekend to hear Jenny's thoughts about it.  She thinks hard 
about how to get all your stuff SAFELY inserted into the smallest box 
possible.  She talked about pack-jobs that turned out so well that she 
sought Robert out to show him before taping it shut.  I also learned the 
secret that if you want to make any packing job much harder for Jenny, add 
a poster.  She's straight up varsity at what she does.  

Anyway, as it turns out, I had the need to order a few things from somebody 
other than Rivendell, and the box was waiting for me in my cubicle this 
morning.  The box was huge.  I went through the mental list of what all I 
had ordered.  I opened the box, thinking that they must have accidentally 
sent me something large, but no.  The fill fraction inside was just very 
very low.  My items were not fragile, which is good because this box 
miserably failed the Riv Chica Warrior West shake test.  My items were all 
there, perfectly intact and undamaged, so I'm not complaining, but I am 
also not exaggerating when I claim that the box Jenny would have used (or 
fashioned) would have had one sixth the volume of the box I received.  The 
extra space was consumed by three sheets of crumpled brown paper.  

I don't know whether the quality of the packaging saves me money or costs 
me money.  I don't know if it saves or costs Rivendell either.  I also 
don't know for sure whether there's a huge reduction in materials that go 
into the recycling bin (although I'm pretty sure there is a reduction). 
 What I do know is that it borders on art, getting a package from 
Rivendell, and that's pretty rare and pretty cool.   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

@ Rperks, thanks for the Brovet blog I enjoyed it. Not certain I'm into 
doing that entire ride especially the I-5 section. Which is why I presume 
you have friends looking for a dirt route. I'm interested in that route 
though.  For now I'm going to do a day ride 40 mile RT on the O.R.R. and 
determine whether it's suitable for a S240?  Post the dirt route info when 
its determined. 

Regards,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:45:00 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very close 
 to this:
 http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
 A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
 interested in the ride

 Rob
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
 Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
 from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
 historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
 disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
 like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
 weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
 the feasibility and worthiness.

  

 Hugh

 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
 me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
 Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)

 @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
 snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yeah, snow bike for the win!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/

 (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
 the ground... scary!)


 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote:

 Jim:

 You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
 see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
 up 
 those fat bikes.  

 dougP


 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 I love your bike Hugh!

 Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
 character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.

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[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

If it helps to sweeten the dealf or any of you out there on the edge of 
purchase, I can throw in the 57mm reach shimano dual pivot brakes, with 
koolstop inserts, that were on it prior to cleaning up for photos - Rob

On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:48:16 AM UTC-8, Peter Pesce wrote:

 Oh boy. My size and the right price. 

 Well, the frame is the right price at least. But if I bought it the 
 resulting divorce would be very costly!

 -Pete in CT

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:34:37 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote:

 As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home. 
  Update to the previous post with pictures here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157632857361800/

 I am asking $1200 for the frame fork and Stronglight A9 headset with a 
 replacement set of bearings.  I will install a new cable guide on the 
 bottom bracket and can put on a new clear chain stay protector at your 
 request.

 For those curios on how the RCP has held up over the years of riding on 
 the coast, you can see the photo set from when it was new here: 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157622875811028/

 Thanks for taking a look

 Rob
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca



 On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 I have not been riding my Roadeo at all this year, it has actually been 
 hanging as a frame set since I pirated many of the components off of it for 
 another project.  It is a great bike, but I am at a point where I am 
 thinking of letting it go for the cash flow.  Structurally it is perfect.  
 There was a mishap with a roof rack clamp and the fork, that was repaired 
 by waterford and is good as new.  The down side of the repair was the clear 
 powder came apart on the fork.  I treated it with T9 regularly, and it only 
 saw fair weather duty her in SoCal until my next project was ready, and 
 there is a bit of surface rust, but nothing deep.  The RCP held up pretty 
 well, but there are also some visible areas of pitting.  The bike is a true 
 candidate for a repaint.

 All that considered I am thinking $1200 could get it out of my 
 workspace, you get a great bike, and can get it painted any way you like 
 and still come out hundreds less than a new one

 I will be setting my photo studio back up in a couple of days and will 
 shoot a detailed set of the bike if there is any interest.

 -- 
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 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca
  



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[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

2013-02-25 Thread Minh

No kidding, here i am rushing to the geometry charts to double-check the 
sizing, Rob, just for reference sake how tall are you?  pretty sure this is 
too big for me but can still dream!

On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:48:16 PM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote:

 Oh boy. My size and the right price. 

 Well, the frame is the right price at least. But if I bought it the 
 resulting divorce would be very costly!

 -Pete in CT

 On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:34:37 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote:

 As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home. 
  Update to the previous post with pictures here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157632857361800/

 I am asking $1200 for the frame fork and Stronglight A9 headset with a 
 replacement set of bearings.  I will install a new cable guide on the 
 bottom bracket and can put on a new clear chain stay protector at your 
 request.

 For those curios on how the RCP has held up over the years of riding on 
 the coast, you can see the photo set from when it was new here: 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157622875811028/

 Thanks for taking a look

 Rob
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca



 On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 I have not been riding my Roadeo at all this year, it has actually been 
 hanging as a frame set since I pirated many of the components off of it for 
 another project.  It is a great bike, but I am at a point where I am 
 thinking of letting it go for the cash flow.  Structurally it is perfect.  
 There was a mishap with a roof rack clamp and the fork, that was repaired 
 by waterford and is good as new.  The down side of the repair was the clear 
 powder came apart on the fork.  I treated it with T9 regularly, and it only 
 saw fair weather duty her in SoCal until my next project was ready, and 
 there is a bit of surface rust, but nothing deep.  The RCP held up pretty 
 well, but there are also some visible areas of pitting.  The bike is a true 
 candidate for a repaint.

 All that considered I am thinking $1200 could get it out of my 
 workspace, you get a great bike, and can get it painted any way you like 
 and still come out hundreds less than a new one

 I will be setting my photo studio back up in a couple of days and will 
 shoot a detailed set of the bike if there is any interest.

 -- 
 Rob Perks
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca
  



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

2013-02-25 Thread James Warren

Hey Rob,Jim Warren from Palos Verdes here. I have some interest, but too many bikes at home already. I know you want cash, but you don't by any chance have any interest in a nice MB-2 from 1993, do you? If that were something you had wanted, we'd have a pretty good trade+cash possibility here. (We could also both avoid shipping when I come up for the Ventura ride!) I'm thinking it would be MB-2 plus cash for the Roadeo (obviously.) The MB-2 is a great bike, but it is my bike that I never ride.I realize this is a stab in the dark, so no pressure.-Original Message-
From: rperks 
Sent: Feb 25, 2013 4:43 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

If it helps to sweeten the dealf or any of you out there on the edge of purchase, I can throw in the 57mm reach shimano dual pivot brakes, with koolstop inserts, that were on it prior to cleaning up for photos - RobOn Monday, February 25, 2013 10:48:16 AM UTC-8, Peter Pesce wrote:Oh boy. My size and the right price. Well, the frame is the right price at least. But if I bought it the resulting divorce would be very costly!-Pete in CTOn Monday, February 25, 2013 1:34:37 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote:As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home. Update to the previous post with pictures here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157632857361800/I am asking $1200 for the frame fork and Stronglight A9 headset with a replacement set of bearings. I will install a new cable guide on the bottom bracket and can put on a new clear chain stay protector at your request.For those curios on how the RCP has held up over the years of riding on the coast, you can see the photo set from when it was new here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157622875811028/Thanks for taking a lookRoboceanaircycles.comVentura, CaOn Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:03:30 PM UTC-8, rperks wrote:I have not been riding my Roadeo at all this year, it has actually been hanging as a frame set since I pirated many of the components off of it for another project. It is a great bike, but I am at a point where I am thinking of letting it go for the cash flow. Structurally it is perfect. There was a mishap with a roof rack clamp and the fork, that was repaired by waterford and is good as new. The down side of the repair was the clear powder came apart on the fork. I treated it with T9 regularly, and it only saw fair weather duty her in SoCal until my next project was ready, and there is a bit of surface rust, but nothing deep. The RCP held up pretty well, but there are also some visible areas of pitting. The bike is a true candidate for a repaint.
All that considered I am thinking $1200 could get it out of my workspace, you get a great bike, and can get it painted any way you like and still come out hundreds less than a new oneI will be setting my photo studio back up in a couple of days and will shoot a detailed set of the bike if there is any interest.
-- Rob Perks
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Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

2013-02-25 Thread Bruce Herbitter

Ugh...

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, redsydude thaus...@q.com wrote:

 I think in 2011 their idea was to  spray paint the frame for a few
 dollars to make it look old and increase its theftproofedness.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

@ Bryan, I've been thinking of the O.R.R since I saw the article Doug 
mentioned in the Los Angeles Times.

I've ridden the LA river a few times and I always enjoy it. Good sights.

I understand the idea of getting into a car to go ride a bike seems 
unseemly. That said the public transit system here in SoCal is woefully 
lacking. I want to ride for a day in Long Beach I need to ride 15 miles to 
the Gold Line in So Pasadena then catch two other trains total time 120 + 
minutes one way. I would love a Metro station out my way say a station up 
to 5 miles distance. I think the ride to Cullver City is doable then ride 
the Ballona Creek bike trail to Marina Del Ray. 

Yeah and what you say about riding the streets of Los Angeles definitely 
builds some kind of character, hyper vigilant character.

Hugh
Sunland, CA




On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:36:56 AM UTC-8, Bryan wrote:

 For some reason, I've been daydreaming about the Ridge Route area myself 
 lately! It's hard for me to motivate to take a bike ride that involves a 
 car, though, especially since I share one car with my wife and kids. I 
 can't complain, with the Santa Monica Mountains and Topanga State Park so 
 close by. But I would like to see some new terrain, so an intriguing ride 
 report might give me the motivation to explore.

 Nice to see your photos of the LA River path, Hugh. I rode that path for 
 the first time a couple of weeks ago, and it's great to see the LA River 
 actually start to look like a normal river in places.  

 Jim - I lived for a number of years in Milwaukee, and I do miss the 
 character building riding during the winter. Then again, bike commuting 
 in LA provides plenty of character building in its own way : )

 Bryan


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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

2013-02-25 Thread Anne Paulson

Dustin, those 60 second exposures are amazing. Also, bacon wrapped
sausages, YUM.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, EastBayGuy goodwin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good Times, Great Bikes, Amazing Views and Great people. I am guessing this
 will not be the Last Group Camp out we have this year.

 Here are a few shots of the Trip..

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/sets/72157632859830394/

 Cheers!

 Dustin G

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Re: [RBW] Re: RCW S24O Saturday-Sunday February 23-24

We should put a headlamp on Manny next time he wants to scurry up a tree and 
take a long exposure shot of that.  It would look like a tree getting scribbled 
out by a firefly

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Mike Schiller

I just realized that Hans Rossman, who rides/writes for BQ with Jan Heine 
was on that Bro'vet.   Of course they missed the good parts by not taking 
Pine Canyon rd through Lake Hughes and going over Spunky saddle. ... too 
bad.  City Slickers I guess.


On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:45:00 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote:

 FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very close 
 to this:
 http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
 A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
 interested in the ride

 Rob
 oceanaircycles.com
 Ventura, Ca

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
 Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
 from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
 historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
 disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
 like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
 weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
 the feasibility and worthiness.

  

 Hugh

 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
 me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
 Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)

 @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
 snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yeah, snow bike for the win!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/

 (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
 the ground... scary!)


 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote:

 Jim:

 You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
 see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
 up 
 those fat bikes.  

 dougP


 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 I love your bike Hugh!

 Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
 character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.

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[RBW] Re: FS -PariMotos, Lumotec IQ Cyo Plus, Ortlieb Pannier

2013-02-25 Thread Scott Post

Light and tires are SOLD.  Thank you!
Pannier is still available.

On Monday, February 25, 2013 12:30:15 PM UTC-8, Scott Post wrote:


 Ortlieb City Biker QL3 Single Pannier, grey.  Basically new, I used it 
 about 3 times. 
 $95 - includes shipping CONUS ($85 if you're in Seattle and can pickup) 


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[RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-02-25 Thread Manuel Acosta

Meet Fremont Bart 930ish.
Proposed route. Open to suggestions.

http://goo.gl/maps/rDEcp

Beauty of doing a ride in the East Bay. Do all of it or part of it. The 
jumping on Bart is always an option. 
Near the end fo the ride in Walnut Creek there are rope swings and Tullio 
sandwiches. Jump on it, literally and figuratively.
Get to Fremont early and get a photo and maybe coffee if I can get beans.. 

Pictures of this ride in reverse.
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDmNiB3

-Manny

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[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP