date:20130326

In the guitar world, there's the problem known as GAS - guitar 
acquisition syndrome. I seem to have the bicycle equivalent. I also tend 
to scatter some of them around the world, so that I don't need to put up 
with the PITA that is present-day air travel with bicycle. One of my 
bikes lives permanently in my brother's house in Switzerland and another 
in my sister's house in Perth, so that when I visit them I can indulge 
in my favourite pastime without any faffing around. Then there's my 
spouse, who rides as much as I do, but hasn't quite attained bicycle 
number equality yet, though she's getting there. And to round things 
out, we have the touring tandem and the go-fast tandem.


Nick

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[RBW] Sold FS: Brooks B66

2013-03-26 Thread Aaron VanDerlip

The item has been sold.

On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:52:05 AM UTC-4, Aaron VanDerlip wrote:

 A lightly used B66 in Honey (I think?)  saddle with black rails. It has 
 ridden less than 500 miles by a small rider.
 I likely have the seat sandwich floating around in my parts drawer and 
 will include it if I can locate it.

 Images are here.

 https://plus.google.com/photos/104255634745953022433/albums/5858946409950971473?authkey=CPb7qLeX4ozhYw


 $60 shipped to CONUS. Reply off list. PayPal is easy but I'll take check 
 too.

 Aaron


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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread Tonester

Wow.  One bike.  That's a tough one.  I'm currently at seven:

1) Atlantis - all rounder
2) Miyata 610 - all rounder that I''m not terrified to leave locked up 
outside the grocery store
3) Mondonico Diamond - classic Italian race bike
4) Klein Adept - full suspension multi gear mountain
5) Civilian Luddite - single speed rigid 29'er (to replace my track bike 
when we moved to rural Lake County CA)
6) 82 Specialized Stumpjumper - nod to the genesis of mountain biking
7) Dahon Speed TR - folder for traveling/commuting

With all that, I'm still looking for the one - my latest fave is the 
Budnitz No. 1 Titanium with a 14 speed Rohloff.

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, capnjack wrote:

  I am 65 and ride with a semi-retired psychologist who is 80 and a 
 retired ophthalmologist who is 66.  We ride almost 100 miles every week 
 year round.  Two of us own steel bikes and one has an aluminum road bicycle.
 The long miles we put on a bike almost demands we go for comfort, even at 
 a small cost in weight.  My SOMA Fabrications Extra Smoothie is the only 
 bike I could ever need.  
 As a matter of fact, I had a Specialized Roubaix Pro with Dura-ace and a 
 double-suspended mountain bike, but I found that I was using the Soma for 
 all or most of my rides, so I sold the other bikes.
 If I want to do some trail riding then I remove my 700c X28mm tires and 
 instal my 32mm's.
 Grant is right about most things bicycling; You don't need all the stuff 
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Re: [RBW] Horizontal Drop outs??? was: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins

You don't need a tensioner to use single speed or internally geared hub 
with vertical dropouts. You can use a ghost chainring - an old granny 
chainring will do the trick. Google the term to find some pictures.


http://www.mtbr.com/ssfaqcrx.aspx#ssConversionsChainTension has useful 
information on various ways to tension a single speed, including the 
ghost chainring.


On 26/03/13 00:56, Jonathan Poor wrote:
Oops, I see that Jim has said why verticals are considered better for 
geared bikes. But I guess I'd trade those advantages for the ability 
to change over to a single cog or internal gear hub without using a 
tensioner.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

Here are some pictures of 55mm SKS fenders over Hetres on a Bleriot: 
https://picasaweb.google.com/100520469917381690611/Bleriot?authkey=Gv1sRgCI-HxrWW9e2yKA#


On 25/03/13 07:48, Alex R wrote:

Hi Daniel,

I use SKS P50 mudguards with my Hetres, and they fit well.  SKS 
recommends the P50 for tires of width 38--45mm:


http://www.sks-germany.com/?l=ena=productr=mudguardsi=6409800121CHROMOPLASTICS

Alex


On Thursday, March 7, 2013 6:39:18 AM UTC+13, Daniel wrote:

Michael, do you have any pictures? I can't imagine that there
would be much clearance since the Hetre's around about 40mm-42mm
and the P45 should be about 45mm. The arithmatic makes it sound
very tight, but maybe the real world measurements are a different
story.
Thanks!

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:15:26 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

I have SKS P45 Longboards with Hetres on my Bleriot with
Paul centerpull brakes with plenty of clearance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: wanted: large saddlesack

2013-03-26 Thread Andy Forquer

I'm thinking of selling my very large saddlebag as well, but can't remember
what exactly was called. Palladin? I got it when it was the largest in
the lineup, along with a matching candy-bar bag that I would like to move.

Great shape, no damage, let me know if you are interested.

-Andy (Oakland)

On Monday, March 25, 2013 2:11:41 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:

I had a Hoss years ago. The guy I sold it to offered to sell it back. I
agree that it's closer to the saddlesack medium.

On Monday, March 25, 2013 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

I think the Hoss is closer in usable size to the Saddlesack Medium; at
least, I can get almost as much groceries in my Medium as I could in my
Hoss. Also, the Hoss is quite floppy compared at least to the Saddlesack,
at least a Medium. I rather think that, for the Hoss type of bag (as for
the Carridice type of which it is a modification), there is a maximum
optimum largest size that is smaller than that of the Hoss.

(I used my Hoss on my Ken Rogers tricycle where it worked very well, not
needing to clear a central rear tire.)

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comwrote:

There is a Hoss on the bay, but I always found them a bit frumpy,
personally.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Baggins-Hoss-saddle-bag-for-touring-bike-/130876027820?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1e78d1b3ac

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thil...@gmail.com wrote:

Who knows. I actually called a few days after the aforementioned RBW
mass email (which claimed the bags were in), and they had nothing, not
even
returns or rejects. It's possible they've got an unopened crate of the
things that nobody has discovered yet. It's ok. I don't have a bag
shortage, and I'm in no particular hurry. But if somebody has one to deal,
I'm interested.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-03-26 Thread Brent

 Thank you everyone for the encouragement - I just saw the ad within 
one hour of it being posted and knowing Craigslist I knew i better move 
fast. I will add some images at some point. I spent most of last night 
ordering parts and have just about everything I need. I hope to purchase a 
pair of 700C wheels locally  today ( Ultegra 32h hubs with Mavic Open Pro 
rims ).

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:


I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in 
 good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto 
 crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano 
 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt 
 I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The 
 owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be 
 looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell 
 along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.



   Brent Avery

Vancouver, B.C.


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Re: [RBW] Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b


On 26/03/13 12:18, hsmitham wrote:

Hey Folks,

First can a bike with 27 wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the 
best Canti breaks to use? And can a 27 wheel be converted to a 650B? 
There is a 46mm difference between 27 to 650B which seems too large a 
jump down for such a conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.


If you have modern cantilevers with an adjustment slot for the pad 
position, converting from 27 to 700c should be pretty easy, provided 
there is 4mm of adjustment available in the slot.


The difference between 27 and 650b is 23mm, not 46mm (it's the 
difference in radius that has to be adjusted for). If you want to 
continue using cantilevers, you'll have to get a framebuilder to move 
the studs. Or alternatively, you could get another fork designed for the 
650b wheel, and use a rear disk brake with a Brake Therapy unit that 
mounts off the existing cantilever stud (see 
http://2btherapy.com/bikes/brake-therapy-conversion-kit). That way you 
can still convert back to 27/700c by putting back the original fork and 
reverting to cantilever brakes.


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[RBW] Re: FS - 52cm Sam Hillborne and Nitto rack - $800

2013-03-26 Thread yoshi

The bike has been sold.

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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell Sam Hillborne

2013-03-26 Thread samh

Now that's the way to photograph a new bike!   Beautiful.   Thanks for 
taking the time to post such exquisite images.  Have fun on your new Riv. 
 A, an umarked chain stay.  Sigh.

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:44:29 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 Just got it from Rivendell a few weeks ago. My first new Rivendell bike.
 I was on the fence about a drop build vs. moustache bar build. I got 
 drops. But I want to eventually swap out the bars to 'staches just to try 
 it. Been curious for a while now about what the moustache bar is like. 
 That's one of the fun things about Rivbikes is that you can switch out 
 different styles of bars. Drops, Alba's, 'staches, etc...
  
 It is a great ride and the prettiest bike I have seen in the flesh, so to 
 speak. Not many Riv's in my neck of the woods, so rare sightings.
  
 Enjoy the first pics. I have put Longboard P45 fenders on it since. I hope 
 to get some ride pics with it on here soon.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157633085407086/
  


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[RBW] Re: New Rivendell Sam Hillborne

2013-03-26 Thread Chris Lampe

Rivendell bikes in general are beautfiul but your Sam stands out even among 
Rivendells.  The blue is awesome but more important, that particular size 
frame with 650B wheels and your saddle/handlebar height are all 
proportioned just right.  That's fairly rare, even among Rivendells. 
 

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:44:29 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Just got it from Rivendell a few weeks ago. My first new Rivendell bike.
 I was on the fence about a drop build vs. moustache bar build. I got 
 drops. But I want to eventually swap out the bars to 'staches just to try 
 it. Been curious for a while now about what the moustache bar is like. 
 That's one of the fun things about Rivbikes is that you can switch out 
 different styles of bars. Drops, Alba's, 'staches, etc...
  
 It is a great ride and the prettiest bike I have seen in the flesh, so to 
 speak. Not many Riv's in my neck of the woods, so rare sightings.
  
 Enjoy the first pics. I have put Longboard P45 fenders on it since. I hope 
 to get some ride pics with it on here soon.
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157633085407086/
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: ...and speaking of the Large Saddlesack...

I put a leather strap around the tab on the saddlebag and that part of 
the rack to stop the bag swaying. Like so: 
http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/bikestuff/DSC00090.JPG 
http://www.users.on.net/%7Enjpayne/bikestuff/DSC00090.JPG


On 26/03/13 07:00, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Here is an extreme and home made example. Most aren't bent over at the 
top -- misjudged length and decided to use it as a security device 
rather than cut it. Effective if not pretty: the front rack bag (that 
is what it was made for) wobbled when strapped to the Logo, but the 
tombstone keeps it rock solid even without any stiffeners.


https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5859372725475216258


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[RBW] Re: Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread oldmangabe

How about RR Grade to East Peak to Ridgecrest to Bofax Trail to SFD back to 
Mill Valley.  Its a long day out but it hits a lot of the good stuff.  
Or RR Grade to East Peak to Rock Springs to Eldridge to 4 Corners to Bofax 
and back to Mill Valley?  That one is a bit shorter and has more down.  
Jealous, I have to work that day.  Have fun.  
Gabe

On Monday, March 25, 2013 9:24:37 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
 fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get 
 back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
 improved route ideas? 
 I'll be riding 700x55's. 

 -Jim W. 


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Re: [RBW] Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Brevivelo

Some 27 in frames have longer reach requirement than others. Even as 27in 
bikes. Measure up some Pauls motolites I think they are. May work. . .

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[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread IanA

Why are you wanting to convert from 27 (630) to 700c (622)?  It's not a 
noticeable difference.  The tire/rim availability of 700c is the only real 
reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 700c), but there 
are various options for the old 27 (630) standard.  Jensonusa.com carry a 
fair selection of tires and even have a budget price wheelset for screw on 
freewheel that works for 126mm spacing.

I converted from 27 to 700c on a bike because someone sold me a cheap (but 
good) 700 wheelset, complete with tires.  I must have re-spaced the rear 
triangle, but the brakes needed nothing more than realigning the pads. 

I could then run either 27 or 700c within a range of 126mm to 130mm with 
no problem as long as the brake pads were realigned each time.

On Monday, March 25, 2013 7:18:05 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Hey Folks,

 First can a bike with 27 wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
 essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the best 
 Canti breaks to use? And can a 27 wheel be converted to a 650B? There is a 
 46mm difference between 27 to 650B which seems too large a jump down for 
 such a conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.

 Best,

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA


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[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Michael Hechmer

My experience with 27 to 700c was yes, but not as easily as I had hoped. 
 When I tried to mount a pair of Paul's neo-retros I found that the slot 
for the shoe wasn't quite long enough, but the original dis-compes, with 
traditional  pivoting shoes could be positioned OK, just at a bit of an 
angle.  I don't see how you could get to 650b without removing the studs. 
 Then you could probably find a center pull which might work.  If you can 
live with a paint touch up, this is not too expensive a solution. 

Michael

On Monday, March 25, 2013 9:18:05 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 Hey Folks,

 First can a bike with 27 wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
 essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the best 
 Canti breaks to use? And can a 27 wheel be converted to a 650B? There is a 
 46mm difference between 27 to 650B which seems too large a jump down for 
 such a conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.

 Best,

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 00:27 -0700, IanA wrote:
 Why are you wanting to convert from 27 (630) to 700c (622)?  It's not
 a noticeable difference.  The tire/rim availability of 700c is the
 only real reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with
 700c), but there are various options for the old 27 (630) standard.
 Jensonusa.com carry a fair selection of tires and even have a budget
 price wheelset for screw on freewheel that works for 126mm spacing.

There are many more tires available in 622 than 630, and there are no
high-end top quality tires in 630 any more.  That's enough reason for
many.



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Re: [RBW] Re: wanted: large saddlesack

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Thanks! Please send measurements and a picture or two.

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[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Ron Mc

I agree there are many good 27 tires still made, including Pasela TG 
folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these.  Schwalbe 
Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness spectrum. 
 Also agree that you can't always make the swap.  My rear centerpull, 
Weinmann 750 is just not quite long enough to reach a 700c rim.  

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:47 AM UTC-5, IanA wrote:

 Why are you wanting to convert from 27 (630) to 700c (622)?  It's not a 
 noticeable difference.  The tire/rim availability of 700c is the only real 
 reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 700c), but there 
 are various options for the old 27 (630) standard.  Jensonusa.com carry a 
 fair selection of tires and even have a budget price wheelset for screw on 
 freewheel that works for 126mm spacing.

 I converted from 27 to 700c on a bike because someone sold me a cheap 
 (but good) 700 wheelset, complete with tires.  I must have re-spaced the 
 rear triangle, but the brakes needed nothing more than realigning the pads. 

 I could then run either 27 or 700c within a range of 126mm to 130mm with 
 no problem as long as the brake pads were realigned each time.

 On Monday, March 25, 2013 7:18:05 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Hey Folks,

 First can a bike with 27 wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
 essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the best 
 Canti breaks to use? And can a 27 wheel be converted to a 650B? There is a 
 46mm difference between 27 to 650B which seems too large a jump down for 
 such a conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.

 Best,

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA



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[RBW] Re: Removing brake cable hanger from headset: replacement spacer required?

2013-03-26 Thread Michael



 While you are at it, maybe get a headset spacer with a bell mount on it 
 like this:
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bellhed.htm


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[RBW] FS/T: Nitto Bullmoose Bar, 200mm, Unpainted

2013-03-26 Thread Adam

I am interested and in Berkeley. I have a jitensha bar with a dirt drop stem as 
well as some 650b tires to trade. Send a personal message if your interested. 

Thanks,
Adam

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-03-26 Thread cyclotourist

Excellent!


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Brent baver...@shaw.ca wrote:

  Thank you everyone for the encouragement - I just saw the ad within
 one hour of it being posted and knowing Craigslist I knew i better move
 fast. I will add some images at some point. I spent most of last night
 ordering parts and have just about everything I need. I hope to purchase a
 pair of 700C wheels locally  today ( Ultegra 32h hubs with Mavic Open Pro
 rims ).


 On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:


I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in
 good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto
 crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano
 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt
 I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The
 owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be
 looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell
 along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.



   Brent Avery

Vancouver, B.C.

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RE: [RBW] Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J

Hugh:

I've converted a couple of '80s Japanese 27 inch bikes to 650B (Nishiki Century 
mixte here 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7161292749/in/set-72157627582881347 , 
Fuji Espree here 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5053260214/in/set-72157624973250063/ 
).  The conversion made both bikes much more comfortable, and I think they look 
great.

I used the Dia Compe Model 750 brakes that Riv sells to convert the Fuji; there 
was still a bit of room in the slots, as they're very long reach brakes.  They 
stop well, nevertheless.

On the mixte, I built a wheelset with Sturmey Archer drum brake hubs (on list 
member Bobby Birmingham's recommendation).  They are really nice, stop 
beautifully, and look appropriate with an older frame , so are good candidates 
for conversions.  The 3 speed rear is even spaced for old frames - 118 mm, if I 
remember right.  I liked the result of this one so much that I'm working on 
another one for a charity auction, using another '80s mixte frame (a Fuji) and 
exactly the same wheelset.

Tom

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 
650b

On 26/03/13 12:18, hsmitham wrote:
Hey Folks,

First can a bike with 27 wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the best Canti 
breaks to use? And can a 27 wheel be converted to a 650B? There is a 46mm 
difference between 27 to 650B which seems too large a jump down for such a 
conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.

If you have modern cantilevers with an adjustment slot for the pad position, 
converting from 27 to 700c should be pretty easy, provided there is 4mm of 
adjustment available in the slot.

The difference between 27 and 650b is 23mm, not 46mm (it's the difference in 
radius that has to be adjusted for). If you want to continue using cantilevers, 
you'll have to get a framebuilder to move the studs. Or alternatively, you 
could get another fork designed for the 650b wheel, and use a rear disk brake 
with a Brake Therapy unit that mounts off the existing cantilever stud (see 
http://2btherapy.com/bikes/brake-therapy-conversion-kit). That way you can 
still convert back to 27/700c by putting back the original fork and reverting 
to cantilever brakes.
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[RBW] Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread Davidbea



While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to arrive- 
one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I stopped by 
the bike coop and found this bar:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream

It’s labelled GB and British Made. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433

When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate bend 
at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/

Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a 
pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe 
now or corrected? 

BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress to 
it.

David Hays

Kenmore, New York

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar

I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo. 
Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar. 
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:

 While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to 
 arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I 
 stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream

 It’s labelled GB and British Made. 


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433

 When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate bend 
 at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/

 Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a 
 pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe 
 now or corrected? 

 BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress to 
 it.

 David Hays

 Kenmore, New York


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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread René Sterental

If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is more
confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by the
way, is also made by Nitto.

*http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843*

René


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo.
 Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:

 While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to
 arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I
 stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8591612115/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream

 It’s labelled GB and British Made.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592703534/in/**
 set-72157633092067433http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592699168/in/**
 set-72157633092067433http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433

 When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate
 bend at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592696840/in/**
 set-72157633092067433/**lightbox/http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/

 Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a
 pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe
 now or corrected?

 BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress
 to it.

 David Hays

 Kenmore, New York

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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread SteveD



I've gone around in circles wanting/not wanting an extra bike in addition 
to my '03 Atlantis (the frame/fork cost $900.00 back then). A few years 
back, I was looking into getting a Riv Custom; even had a deal with my wife 
that if I road all year round and lose twenty pounds, I could order one up. 
Road the Atlantis year-round, even lost twenty pounds, I nixt the Custom 
because I couldn't justify the cost of building-up another bike. Recently, 
I've been lusting after a HIlson 650B but then couldn't justify the cost of 
building-up a new bike. Shoot, I was even contemplating the Rodeo just for 
its sportiness. 

Even though I can rationalize having a another bike, I end up choking on 
the extra cost. So, I ended up compromising, and threw some buck on spendy 
Paul brakes, Honjo Hammereds, a rondo rear rack, SON delux hub with LED 
light, and a Phil touring hub; all that's left is swapping out the Shimano 
BB for a Phil. Very spendy, I know, but the Atlantis is very smooth and 
comfortable on the road. Plus, now I have the bike that 
I've-always-wanted-but-never-could-afford. 

But, to honest, if the economy wasn't so upside-down-in-every-which-way, I 
get a Hilson or Rodeo and build it up with all the bells and whistles, and 
call it a day and go ride.

-Steve DeMont
Seattle






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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread RoadieRyan

Actually Schwable, Panaracer and Continetial to name a few still make good 
quality 27inch tires.  I agree that you do have more options with 700c but 
that doesn't mean there are no good options for 27inch.  

Hugh check my posting here is you want to see what your options are today 
 for 27 inch 
wheels 
http://ryansrebuilds.blogspot.com/2013/02/myth-busted-there-are-very-few-options.html
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:48:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 00:27 -0700, IanA wrote: 
  Why are you wanting to convert from 27 (630) to 700c (622)?  It's not 
  a noticeable difference.  The tire/rim availability of 700c is the 
  only real reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 
  700c), but there are various options for the old 27 (630) standard. 
  Jensonusa.com carry a fair selection of tires and even have a budget 
  price wheelset for screw on freewheel that works for 126mm spacing. 

 There are many more tires available in 622 than 630, and there are no 
 high-end top quality tires in 630 any more.  That's enough reason for 
 many. 





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[RBW] A nice 59 cm Heron on a certain auction site

2013-03-26 Thread Tom Goodmann

I've been alerted to a clean-looking Heron (59 cm ST) on the auction site; 
I'll watch closely, and thought others might be interested.

--Tom

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[RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread William

GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!

On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:04:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:





 Got some new tires for the Hilsen.   They are Vee Rubber 12s.They are 
 just about perfect for the mixed terrain riding I enjoy most.  They ride 
 wonderfully.   They're a little tight at the chainstays,   But they fit.   
  They measure 44.5 on Synergy rims.They'll be on for a while.Enjoy 
 the riding.  -Mike 
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[RBW] FS: 46 Noodles (1), Drop Bars

2013-03-26 Thread allenmichael

$81 retail. I would like to get $50, plus the actual shipping. Local sale 
is much preferred in SF.

I purchased them new from Rivendell, put them on an Atlantis and rode them 
from SF to SoCal a couple of times. They've been taped and do not look new, 
but will work just as well.

Decided that I prefer a flat or swept-back bar. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Mike Williams

No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!
 
 On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:04:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 Got some new tires for the Hilsen.   They are Vee Rubber 12s.They are 
 just about perfect for the mixed terrain riding I enjoy most.  They ride 
 wonderfully.   They're a little tight at the chainstays,   But they fit.
 They measure 44.5 on Synergy rims.They'll be on for a while.Enjoy 
 the riding.  -Mike 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread William

Thank goodness the 650Bs are still not available.  I'm reprieved!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:43:16 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)

 Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:

 GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!

 On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:04:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:





 Got some new tires for the Hilsen.   They are Vee Rubber 12s.They are 
 just about perfect for the mixed terrain riding I enjoy most.  They ride 
 wonderfully.   They're a little tight at the chainstays,   But they fit.   
  They measure 44.5 on Synergy rims.They'll be on for a while.Enjoy 
 the riding.  -Mike 
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Re: [RBW] A nice 59 cm Heron on a certain auction site

2013-03-26 Thread Peter Morgano

I have also been watching it, I would love love this bike but I am at 5
already. I dont have a go fast bike in the stable right now though, but
that excuse wont fly with my wife, I dont think at least.

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 I've been alerted to a clean-looking Heron (59 cm ST) on the auction site;
 I'll watch closely, and thought others might be interested.

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Re: [RBW] Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Mather

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
 fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get back 
 south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer improved 
 route ideas?
 I'll be riding 700x55's.

 -Jim W.


Bolinas Ridge is a classic route and well worth riding. You'll be fine
on that size tire, but will want lower pressure than what you're
riding on the road to get there. I just started a new job so I can't
drop everything mid-week to join you, otherwise I would. Have a good
ride.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell All 'Rounder price question.

2013-03-26 Thread kevin spicher

I posted a reply yesterday but don't see it. 
I appreciate all who have posted their thoughts concerning my dilemma. I 
would say the majority (including my wife) say do not sell, I know it is a 
special bike but I didn't know it was so highly regarded. 

After a decade of BMX, a decade of Freestyle and a decade of Mt Biking 
(with a few road bike years thrown in) I sometimes wonder if the Riv fits 
in with my bicycle evolution. I appreciate it and believe in the 
philosophies, but I'm going to get another Mt Bike and keep the Riv for now 
and see how much or how little dust it collects over the next year or so. 
It may end up for sale on here at that time.

Thanks so much for all the input.

Kevin


On Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:46:05 PM UTC-7, kevin spicher wrote:

 Hello all..
 I have a Rivendell All 'Rounder purchased in 1996-97 (I have the receipt 
 somewhere).It has Richard Sachs lugs and if I remember right it is a 55 (I 
 am 5'11 160 LBS)  I am considering selling it, but I have no idea what it 
 is worth. It has very low mileage, guessing maybe 3 or 4K and has been 
 maintained impeccably. I think it's only ever been ridden in the rain a 
 couple times. Here is a photoMKS touring pedals, Paul touring Cantis, 
 Nitto Dream Bar, Nitto Pearl stem, Mavic 661 crank (I think that's the 
 model #) Simplex super lj rear derailer, Simplex front derailer Phil 
 touring Hubs, Sun CR 18 rims, The tires in the photo are wrong it has 
 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, Phil BB, ESGE fenders, Suntour Superbe ( I 
 have new gum hoods not on yet) Willow chainring with tripleizer, 
 Specialized seatpost.

 I have much better and bigger pics if anyone is interested.

 I would appreciate all feedback considering what it is worth and what I 
 would probably get for it.

 Thank You,
 Kevin


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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread David Hays

I'd heard the same-actually maybe from you- so bought a used Grand Bois 
Randonneur bar from someone someone on the list while waiting for the Nitto to 
come in. I thought I could always return the Nitto.
I paid more for the used Grand Bois than the new Nitto. Still waiting for the 
GB to arrive. 
What do you find more comfortable about the GB?
David

On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:22 AM, René Sterental wrote:

 If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is more 
 confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by the 
 way, is also made by Nitto.
  
 http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843
  
 René
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo. 
 Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar.
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.
 
 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:
 While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to arrive- 
 one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I stopped by the 
 bike coop and found this bar:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream
 It’s labelled GB and British Made. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433
 When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate bend at 
 the right end, it is almost exactly the same.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/
 Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a pipe 
 in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe now or 
 corrected? 
 BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress to it.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York
 
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[RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Christopher Miller Rosales

I did a conversion on a Trek 620 a while back, the brakes couldn't make the 
adjustment. The REAL problem is that the brake posts are much more narrow 
on the 27 bikes and modern brakes are designed for the wider brakes 
designed after the mountain bike transition. Look more a pair of old smooth 
post Deore XT cantilevers, they work great.

I highly doubt they'll drop low enough for a 650b conversion though. 
Honestly, I'd just stick with 700c so you don't have to do a conversion, I 
don't see a big point in doing 650b conversions unless there is no 
clearance in the original frame; a bike made with 27 wheels and 
cantilevers is likely a touring bike and should easily swallow some 700 x 
35's.

Check out this blogpost for a bit more information, not me but the same 
bike I worked on:
http://nihonmaru.blogspot.com/2011/08/phoenix-project-shimano-m732-cantilever.html

After getting a quality pair of 27 wheels I regret doing the conversion. I 
got tired of always stretching the drop out to fit the modern wheel (I'm 
too lazy to coldset). I have some beautiful phil wood hubs laced to 27 
Super Champion rims, tubes, and wolber tires that is looking for a new 
owner. The bearings are smooth as butter and they roll true. Shoot me a 
message if you are interested!

Cheers,

Chris
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread Andy Forquer

As a cubicle hamster I can't do it, but let me know if you want to grab a 
beer afterwards in Bezerkley!

-Andy

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:56:56 AM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, James Warren 
 jimcw...@earthlink.netjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount 
 Tam fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to 
 get back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
 improved route ideas? 
  I'll be riding 700x55's. 
  
  -Jim W. 


 Bolinas Ridge is a classic route and well worth riding. You'll be fine 
 on that size tire, but will want lower pressure than what you're 
 riding on the road to get there. I just started a new job so I can't 
 drop everything mid-week to join you, otherwise I would. Have a good 
 ride. 

 jim m 
 wc ca 


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[RBW] Re: Removing brake cable hanger from headset: replacement spacer required?

2013-03-26 Thread Tom Harrop

Yep, I'll probably get one of those next time I order from Riv. Anyway the 
hanger has been replaced with a spacer now, bag is happy, bike is 50 g lighter 
by Doug's estimate. Bet that gets my average speed up over 10 mph! Next up, to 
shave the brake pads...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread rcnute

I saw last night that there is a new Soma randonneur bar too.

Ryan

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22:43 AM UTC-7, René wrote:

 If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is more 
 confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by the 
 way, is also made by Nitto.
  
 *http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843*
  
 René


 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo. 
 Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar. 
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:

 While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to 
 arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I 
 stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8591612115/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream

 It’s labelled GB and British Made. 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592703534/in/**
 set-72157633092067433http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592699168/in/**
 set-72157633092067433http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433

 When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate 
 bend at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592696840/in/**
 set-72157633092067433/**lightbox/http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/

 Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a 
 pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe 
 now or corrected? 

 BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress 
 to it.

 David Hays

 Kenmore, New York

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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread Kelly

Now I feel better about my bikes ... room in the garage is still tight 
though.


On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:31:26 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 I chuckled at the OP's comment about putting on his 32 mm rubber for rough 
 stuff. I don't own a bike that has tires that skinny. The closest thing I 
 have to a road bike has 38-40 mm tires and is getting sold later today. 
 After that, I'll only have one bike that will even accept tires as skinny 
 as 32 mm, but it's currently wearing 55 mm Big Apples.

 Any of my bikes could easily be my just one bike. I don't have much 
 interest in fast roadie-type riding, which frees me from needing 2 or 3 
 slightly varied bikes to fill that popular category. The other side of the 
 token is that all my bikes are clustered in the all-rounder camp, and there 
 is considerable overlap. I really should sell something.



 On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:12:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

 The long miles we put on a bike almost demands we go for comfort, even 
 at a small cost in weight. 

 If I want to do some trail riding then I remove my 700c X28mm tires and 
 instal my 32mm's.

 Three or four years ago I was able to think of 700x28 as a comfort 
 choice.  Now, 700x28 is a balls-out racer choice in my mind.  

 To me, having one bike would be as fun as having one change of clothes. 
  I like being able to look into the closet, contemplate a few choices, and 
 put on what I feel like putting on.  I don't have a favorite shirt and I 
 don't have spare shirts.  I have a bunch of clothes that I like wearing, 
 most being versatile, and some being for a specific activity.  If I find 
 that I haven't worn *that* shirt in a long time, I get rid of it.  

 On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, capnjack wrote:

  I am 65 and ride with a semi-retired psychologist who is 80 and a 
 retired ophthalmologist who is 66.  We ride almost 100 miles every week 
 year round.  Two of us own steel bikes and one has an aluminum road bicycle.
 The long miles we put on a bike almost demands we go for comfort, even 
 at a small cost in weight.  My SOMA Fabrications Extra Smoothie is the only 
 bike I could ever need.  
 As a matter of fact, I had a Specialized Roubaix Pro with Dura-ace and a 
 double-suspended mountain bike, but I found that I was using the Soma for 
 all or most of my rides, so I sold the other bikes.
 If I want to do some trail riding then I remove my 700c X28mm tires and 
 instal my 32mm's.
 Grant is right about most things bicycling; You don't need all the stuff 
 they try to sell you.



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[RBW] WTB bar end pods

2013-03-26 Thread JL

Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?

or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?

reply offlist please

Thanks
Jason Leach
SF, CA
 

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[RBW] Re: Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Gabe suggests a good couple o' routes - are you starting from the city?  If 
so, you'll have to climb and ride a bit to hit Bolinas Ridge Trail.   From 
Ridgecrest (Seven Sisters) where it connects with Bofax, it starts wet and 
sloppy, then gets rocky for a bit, then opens up and is more of a farm 
road/firetrail.  Before it connects with SFD, there is a trail which drops 
down to the Cross Marin Path, which is the bike path that parallels SFD and 
goes to Samuel P. Taylor State Park.  You can follow the path and then 
continue on an unpaved road all the way to Inkwells Bridge, which puts you 
back on SFD (and you can then head back through Lagunitas and Woodacre to 
Fairfax. 

You probably won't find Bofax on a map, but that is the Bolinas-Fairfax 
Road.   Also, SFD = Sir Francis Drake Blvd

55's will probably cover anything you are likely to find on the mountain, 
though the top end of Eldridge Grade (where it connects with East 
Ridgecrest just below the East Peak Parking lot - not really on any route 
suggested here) is pretty rocky. 

There can be some pretty good climate changes in the bay area.  Layers and 
a shell/vest is good.  

If you wanted to roll up RR Grade out of Mill Valley, then cut over on Old 
Stage Road, you can pick up the road at Pantoll Ranger Station.  Head up 
Ridgecrest (which I think is actually Pantoll at that point, then cut 
left on (West) Ridgecrest when you get to Portrero Meadow.  That would get 
you Bolinas Ridge Trail. Once you commit to Bolinas Ridge, you are on it 
for a bit until you reach the trail mentioned above.

You could bail out onto Bofax Road, which will eventually drop you back 
down to Fairfax (after a climb or two - you'll drop steeply from the ridge 
to Alpine Dam, then continue around the watershed lakes, over another 
smaller ridge and then drop down past the golf course.   

Going through Fairfax, there's Gestalt House on (what becomes at that 
point) Bolinas Ave.  Also Iron Springs Brewery on Center.  Expanded natural 
foods store right there.  You're probably an hour from the city at that 
point, via a well-travelled but not-always-obvious route.  The cue sheet 
for the 200K from SFR is helpful.  
http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/route-archive.htm  (the populaire and 
lighthouse 200K follow the same roads out of Fairfax.)

Hope that makes sense.  

- Jim


On Monday, March 25, 2013 9:24:37 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
 fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get 
 back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
 improved route ideas? 
 I'll be riding 700x55's. 

 -Jim W. 


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[RBW] retroshift reviews

2013-03-26 Thread JL

Has anyone used retroshift shifters for long enough to have a review about 
them?

I wonder how in-the-way the shifters are?

Jason Leach
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell All 'Rounder price question.

2013-03-26 Thread Ryan

I'm glad that you are keeping it for now. I bought mine as the fancy 
going-to-church version of my 93 X0-1 which I also still have and ride more 
often. But the AR was the 1st custom I ever owned and I had lots of fun 
picking out the partssome Rivish, some not so much. I do ride it and I 
would be sorry to sell it. There's  emotional as well as financial 
investment in a fine and special bike. Which those ARs are
 
Now, one of the components we share are those Superbe levers; if you can 
tell me where you scored new gum hoods, I would love to know :) 
 
On Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:46:05 PM UTC-5, kevin spicher wrote:

 Hello all..
 I have a Rivendell All 'Rounder purchased in 1996-97 (I have the receipt 
 somewhere).It has Richard Sachs lugs and if I remember right it is a 55 (I 
 am 5'11 160 LBS)  I am considering selling it, but I have no idea what it 
 is worth. It has very low mileage, guessing maybe 3 or 4K and has been 
 maintained impeccably. I think it's only ever been ridden in the rain a 
 couple times. Here is a photoMKS touring pedals, Paul touring Cantis, 
 Nitto Dream Bar, Nitto Pearl stem, Mavic 661 crank (I think that's the 
 model #) Simplex super lj rear derailer, Simplex front derailer Phil 
 touring Hubs, Sun CR 18 rims, The tires in the photo are wrong it has 
 Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, Phil BB, ESGE fenders, Suntour Superbe ( I 
 have new gum hoods not on yet) Willow chainring with tripleizer, 
 Specialized seatpost.

 I have much better and bigger pics if anyone is interested.

 I would appreciate all feedback considering what it is worth and what I 
 would probably get for it.

 Thank You,
 Kevin


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Re: [RBW] retroshift reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Alex Zeibot

Awkward at first until after 100-150 shifts I got used to it.  I still find
shifting with a thumb a little challenging as contrasted index/middle
fingers.  Requires more work and leverage. At least it is to me.  Works
best with indexed shifters rather than friction/ratchet specific ones like
Silvers.



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 Has anyone used retroshift shifters for long enough to have a review about
 them?

 I wonder how in-the-way the shifters are?

 Jason Leach
 SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 05:59 -0700, Ron Mc wrote:
 I agree there are many good 27 tires still made, including Pasela TG
 folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these.  Schwalbe
 Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness
 spectrum.

Just to be clear: I never said there were no good 27 tires.  I said
there were no high-end top quality tires in that size.  To me the Pasela
TG is an economy tire.  



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Re: [RBW] A nice 59 cm Heron on a certain auction site

2013-03-26 Thread mikel66...@juno.com

i had a similiar first generation 57cm Heron Tourer. as a loaded tourer it 
handled well and was quite comfortable. i never used it with less than 4 
panniers, rear rack/bag and front handlebar bag so i cant comment on how it 
rode unloaded

it did have a couple shortcomings. first, a modern loaded tourer doenst need 
horizontal dropouts. second, the fork crown could fit a 700x38mm tire but wasnt 
wide enough to accomadate 50mm fenders while pinching SKS 45mm fenders

i sold the 57cm and bought a used second generation Heron tourer (Wayfarer i 
believe) which has vertical dropouts and a wider/stouter fork crown. it hangs 
on the wall unbuilt so i cant compare but it might be called into action this 
summer

mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

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Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:07 -0700, James Warren wrote:
 
 On an older 27 road frame, switching to 700C on a frame with Sidepull
 brakes is hassle-free, but on a frame with cantilever brakes, there
 will often be problems with pad alignment.

Freedom from hassles is a matter of having sufficient reach.  I recall
seeing some 27 sidepull frames back in the day that had enormous
clearance, and barely made it with long reach sidepulls.  You may have
issues with a frame like that.

With cantilevers, some frames and some brakes have room to move the pads
down.  Others do not.



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[RBW] Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread Michael Hechmer

Today was a major transition day. I trimmed and mounted the bedroom doors,
thus bringing an end to a renovation project that has occupied me since new
years; cleaned my shop; put in an order for vegetable seeds; and took the
new to me Saluki for an hour and half shake down cruise. Given temps in
the hi 30s, I skipped the screaming down hill test.

It is with very mixed emotions that I have to report that this bike is in
much better condition than I am!

The bike came to me with the 600 HS, PW bottom bracket, Riv wheels Pari
Moto tires, Mafac levers, as well as a beautiful, classic Specialized
crank, VO AL. fenders and racks Unfortunately, I needed to replace the
Nitto Pearl stem with something shorter and decided to try a Mark's Bar. (
the jury is still out on the latter) I swapped out a nice pair of classic
pedals for my White Ind Bruce Gordon clips, replaced a hi polish tektro
brakes with my neo-retros, and Deore detailers for older campy Centaur
Mirage. Early, Selle Anatomica saddle.

As I was headed out, it occurred to me I should take some pics before this
dog rolled in mud. My quick photography doesn't do it justice but the
slide show comes closest to capturing the nice paint job. I think I will
rewrap the bars with something more mellow, in cloth.

https://plus.google.com/photos/110692344592863063357/albums/5859744561306659185?gpinv=AMIXal9g7EErBUEyUYKaPP0wgSM6C9TiKHn9Ni94wEiDyjh8RMWDjfgGWcn720PAA0GPAYPthzVhg3mwJy6o8itISEf6eD3NAZcYRv_LMkVKt8hCyyXWRU0cfem=1authkey=CM-RtYmyvOKvxAE

Next I'm off on a road trip, alas without a bike. Hope to be in St Paul
for a conference by the 11th. Jim, if time permits, I'll come by your shop
and drool on something!

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Minh

i will echo what steve says, measure!  i made the same assumption a few 
years ago (still have the bike), and did the conversion because the 
existing wheels were chromed steel (in poor condition), the back was no 
issue even with short reach side-pulls.  but the front fork had tons of 
tire clearance already, so switching out to even long reach side-pulls 
didn't work, i used a make-shift drop-bolt for a few years until i found a 
crazy long reach sidepull (~75mm ish) made by shimano which i'm using now.

This was not an uncommon occurence as i think campy or dia-compe made 
machined drop bolts a long time ago.  

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:14:59 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:07 -0700, James Warren wrote: 
  
  On an older 27 road frame, switching to 700C on a frame with Sidepull 
  brakes is hassle-free, but on a frame with cantilever brakes, there 
  will often be problems with pad alignment. 

 Freedom from hassles is a matter of having sufficient reach.  I recall 
 seeing some 27 sidepull frames back in the day that had enormous 
 clearance, and barely made it with long reach sidepulls.  You may have 
 issues with a frame like that. 

 With cantilevers, some frames and some brakes have room to move the pads 
 down.  Others do not. 





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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread RoadieRyan

Fair enough Steve, how would you rate the Conti Gator Skins or Schwalbe 
Marathons 
which also have  27x1 1/4 options?

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 05:59 -0700, Ron Mc wrote: 
  I agree there are many good 27 tires still made, including Pasela TG 
  folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these.  Schwalbe 
  Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness 
  spectrum. 

 Just to be clear: I never said there were no good 27 tires.  I said 
 there were no high-end top quality tires in that size.  To me the Pasela 
 TG is an economy tire.   





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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27 wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:45 -0700, RoadieRyan wrote:
 Fair enough Steve, how would you rate the Conti Gator Skins or
 Schwalbe Marathons which also have  27x1 1/4 options?

I don't know Contis at all.  The Marathons are a heavy duty touring
tire.  Where do they sit in Schwalbe's hierarchy?  Scanning their site
quickly it looks as though it's roughly comparable to the Pasela in
Panaracer's hierarchy, and not one of their high end tires.





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[RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread Liesl

Nice!

Is that the original version of the down-tube decal I spy?  If it is, then 
it's an extra special pup from the first Saluki litters!  I also see the 
metal headbadge, which was an upgrade option.

Welcome to the Saluki Pack!

RCW (who might have a Riv Chica Warhorse but also has a Riv Chica Saluki 
Hound)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Leslie


On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:45:38 PM UTC-4, William wrote:

 Thank goodness the 650Bs are still not available.  I'm reprieved!

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:43:16 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)

 On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!



The Vee Rubber 650b tires I've found yet are more aggressive;  Noticed 
Kenda's slant6 is now available : 
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=60446category=3482

Wondering about the Hutchinson Cobra air too, but not yet available 
either.  Nor Vredestein's spotted cat   and if Pacenti will get his 
minimoto out eventually...

   

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[RBW] Re: Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread EastBayGuy

+1 for a stop at Gestalt Haus..

Dustin G

WC Ca

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Re: [RBW] Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread James Warren

Thanks for the input everyone. Turns out the ride will be down on the Peninsula 
tomorrow, starting with Dirt Alpine road at 10 AM, then playing it by ear from 
there for several hours of fun. If anybody wants to join, email me directly for 
details.

-Jim W.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
 fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get 
 back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
 improved route ideas?
 I'll be riding 700x55's.
 
 -Jim W.
 
 
 Bolinas Ridge is a classic route and well worth riding. You'll be fine
 on that size tire, but will want lower pressure than what you're
 riding on the road to get there. I just started a new job so I can't
 drop everything mid-week to join you, otherwise I would. Have a good
 ride.
 
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[RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread Michael



 Classy!! Looks like a very Riv-Rando-ready bike!! Congrats.
  

What did you mean by mixed emotions?. Were you hurting after the ride? 

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[RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

2013-03-26 Thread Michael



 @Daniel:
 If I remember, my Hetres are measuring at 38mm wide. They are inflated 
 within the inflation range printed on the sidewall (the lower end of it if 
 I remember). They fit under the fenders better than my Rumpkins did. They 
 look narrower. According to the Rivsite, P45's will take a 45mm wide tire. 
 I'll try to remember to get some pics posted this week if you still want to 
 see.


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[RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB

Ever wonder why you never see William and the Michelin Man photographed 
together?  I think he IS the MM...

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[RBW] Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Just saw this on Ebay. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-frame-set-/290887072704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item43ba387bc0

Hugh
Sunland, CA

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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

This is getting a little nuts. Every A/R in the country is suddenly for 
sale! This one appears to be a respray. The early headbadge is accurate, 
but the decals and fancy-Joe-Bell paint are what customs come with. Very 
pretty, my size, yada yada. Oy!
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:42:52 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Just saw this on Ebay. 


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-frame-set-/290887072704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item43ba387bc0

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA


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[RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread William

moi!?

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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Christopher Murray

It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/

Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 

Cheers! 
cm

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Re: [RBW] Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread René Sterental

Very nice!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013, Michael wrote:

 Classy!! Looks like a very Riv-Rando-ready bike!! Congrats.


 What did you mean by mixed emotions?. Were you hurting after the ride?

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[RBW] Re: WTB bar end pods

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I have tons of Shimano pods, which I think work with silver shifters 
(correct me if I'm wrong). I can send you some.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:11 PM UTC-5, JL wrote:

 Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?

 or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?

 reply offlist please

 Thanks
 Jason Leach
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:

 It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/

 Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 

 Cheers! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB bar end pods

2013-03-26 Thread Alex Zeibot

Jim,
I have Dura Ace DT shifters but would love barcons.  Possible to convert
them?


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thill@gmail.com wrote:

 I have tons of Shimano pods, which I think work with silver shifters
 (correct me if I'm wrong). I can send you some.

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:11 PM UTC-5, JL wrote:

 Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?

 or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?

 reply offlist please

 Thanks
 Jason Leach
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB bar end pods

Riv's bar-end pods are direct copies of Shimano's. They will work with 
Silvers and Dura-Ace dt.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:16:05 PM UTC-7, Alex Zeibot wrote:

 Jim,
 I have Dura Ace DT shifters but would love barcons.  Possible to convert 
 them?


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 thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I have tons of Shimano pods, which I think work with silver shifters 
 (correct me if I'm wrong). I can send you some.

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:11 PM UTC-5, JL wrote:

 Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?

 or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?

 reply offlist please

 Thanks
 Jason Leach
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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread James Warren

There was a time where, at that frame size, you'd know the A/R by its 26 
wheels. On not-large ones, 26 wheels were a defining characteristic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
  
 
 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
 It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/
 Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions.
 
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Edwin W


If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the 
day? Joe how can you tell its a respray? 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:


 If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
 What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?

 Edwin


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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

I'm at 5 and go back and forth on this issue. If I could only have one it 
would be the LHT as it's just the most versatile. Two? The LHT and the 
Hilsen. 3? The LHT, the Hilsen and either the SS Cross Check or the Big 
Dummy cargo bike (I don't own a car). The fifth is my brevet bike and I'm 
tempted to part with it as it's not really being ridden that much. It's 
beautiful, versatile and does it's job but lately... my go to bike is my 
very Rivish LHT with VP pedals, 48mm Noodles, 40mm Schwalbes, Brooks saddle 
and Pletscher twin legged kickstand. It's just a solid capable bike. But my 
bike wants ebb and flow. I have a feeling next year one of these will go to 
make room for a dedicated mountain bike. 

--mike

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[RBW] This week's adventure.

Third week in a row that Ed and I got out for a ride and took in some new 
dirt roads. This week we went east to the Columbia River Gorge and 
Multnomah Falls. Once at Multnomah Falls we decided to climb up to Larch 
Mtn Rd via Palmer Mill Rd, a steep dirt road used by locals. The fact that 
it's dirt tends to scare away the tourist. We didn't see a single car on 
it. Towards where it intersects with a paved road we came to Brower Rd 
which is closed to motorized vehicles. We decided to explore it. Ed had 
ridden it in the summer a few years before in the summer. It intersects 
Larch Mtn Rd which climbs from Troutdale for 14 miles to the top of Larch 
Mtn. In the winter it's closed at milepost 10 and is covered in snow until 
May or so. As we rode up Brower we came across more and more snow. Against 
better judgment we continued on pushing our bikes through snow when it 
became too deep to ride. The snow was interspersed with snow free areas so 
we felt comfortable with keeping on in spite of us both wearing less than 
optimal shoes (Ed wearing Sidis and me wearing Sambas. We finally came out 
at mile post 10 on Larch Mtn Rd. Our feet were wet and cold, our brakes 
weren't really working and the road wasn't plowed. For the first couple of 
miles we descended in tire tracks which left dry exposed road. It was a 
bit sketchy but we survived. Once back in Troutdale it was a nice easy ride 
back into town after a stop for a V8 as I was having some cramping. I was 
worried about time but made it back into town with plenty of time to 
pick-up my dog Dirk from doggy day care. What a great day. I'll most likely 
ride tomorrow too although most likely a ramble through Forest Park and a 
trip to the library with some coffee drinking and reading in there 
somewhere.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633101635902/

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Homers new shoes

Michael, your bike looks great. SCA! That is such a killer trail. I miss 
the Headlands. Be sure to check out Green Gulch from Muir Beach up to the 
ridge. It's legal and great.

--mike

On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31:36 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 looks familiar.   Do you ride up there often?   There are a couple trails 
 that say  no bicycles   that are a blast.1)  the rhubarb trail  2) 
 oak valley3)   the connector ( or at least i think) of the SCA trail to 
 Conzelman Rd.   So fun! Maybe I'll see you up there sometime.  -Mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread cyclotourist

I highly recommend the Kenda Slant Six. Great all-round tire. Rolls nice on
asphalt and hard pack, yet digs in well in corners on softer stuff and the
more common sand over hard-pack that I have around here. Best yet, the SCT
version there is tubeless compatible. Bill should be all over a set!


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:45:38 PM UTC-4, William wrote:

 Thank goodness the 650Bs are still not available.  I'm reprieved!

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:43:16 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)

 On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!



 The Vee Rubber 650b tires I've found yet are more aggressive;  Noticed
 Kenda's slant6 is now available :
 http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=60446category=3482

 Wondering about the Hutchinson Cobra air too, but not yet available
 either.  Nor Vredestein's spotted cat   and if Pacenti will get his
 minimoto out eventually...



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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone

The oldest catalog I have is '99 and ARs were 1575.

-Norm in PDX





 From: hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the day? 
Joe how can you tell its a respray? 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?


Edwin
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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

2013-03-26 Thread Mike Schiller

looks like a perfect day.  Wish I could do rides in that kind of terrain.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.


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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

I personally have a Hilsen which I've had since late January. I built it up 
to have just one bike that would do everything I wanted a bike to do, 
credit card touring, fitness rides, commute (which I haven't yet 
accomplished) and mixed terrain. I feel as though it has met all my 
requirements and am so amazed at it's mixed terrain capabilities, despite 
how much I love this bike I have BAS Bike acquisition syndrome and plan on 
building up a Trek 660 as my go quick steed and then I want to build up a 
Trek 850 as my Atlantis type camping rig. I personally rationalize my BAS 
as a healthy past time. I love bicycles and will continue to collect them. 
Heck if I had unlimited $$$  I'd have an Appaloosa like Keven's 

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff3.htmand 

and a  Bomba like Snug Harborman 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8566366471/in/faves-pedalpusher61/

And what ever I could stuff into the garage. Believe me in all other 
matters I'm a minimalist you can ask the wife. I think it's difficult to 
have just one bike but if they aren't being ridden that may be time to 
unload. There you have my two cents, happy cycling with how ever many 
bicycles you have :)

Hugh


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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone

IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull. At least early on.

-Norm in PDX.





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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. com/blog/
Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
Cheers! 
cm
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone

Corrected:


IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull for the LL. At least early on.

-Norm in PDX.





 From: Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. com/blog/
Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
Cheers! 
cm
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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Acosta

Digging it. Sambas sound like great snow shoes!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:41:44 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:

 Third week in a row that Ed and I got out for a ride and took in some new 
 dirt roads. This week we went east to the Columbia River Gorge and 
 Multnomah Falls. Once at Multnomah Falls we decided to climb up to Larch 
 Mtn Rd via Palmer Mill Rd, a steep dirt road used by locals. The fact that 
 it's dirt tends to scare away the tourist. We didn't see a single car on 
 it. Towards where it intersects with a paved road we came to Brower Rd 
 which is closed to motorized vehicles. We decided to explore it. Ed had 
 ridden it in the summer a few years before in the summer. It intersects 
 Larch Mtn Rd which climbs from Troutdale for 14 miles to the top of Larch 
 Mtn. In the winter it's closed at milepost 10 and is covered in snow until 
 May or so. As we rode up Brower we came across more and more snow. Against 
 better judgment we continued on pushing our bikes through snow when it 
 became too deep to ride. The snow was interspersed with snow free areas so 
 we felt comfortable with keeping on in spite of us both wearing less than 
 optimal shoes (Ed wearing Sidis and me wearing Sambas. We finally came out 
 at mile post 10 on Larch Mtn Rd. Our feet were wet and cold, our brakes 
 weren't really working and the road wasn't plowed. For the first couple of 
 miles we descended in tire tracks which left dry exposed road. It was a 
 bit sketchy but we survived. Once back in Troutdale it was a nice easy ride 
 back into town after a stop for a V8 as I was having some cramping. I was 
 worried about time but made it back into town with plenty of time to 
 pick-up my dog Dirk from doggy day care. What a great day. I'll most likely 
 ride tomorrow too although most likely a ramble through Forest Park and a 
 trip to the library with some coffee drinking and reading in there 
 somewhere.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633101635902/

 --mike


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[RBW] Re: Me, the Sam and a Friend

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Acosta

Ask the lovely folks at Rivendell HQ. I go there but street names are 
foreign to me. 

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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

Mike,

Another great ride report! Makes me want to load the car up and road trip 
it North. How many miles did you ride?

Hugh


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[RBW] Re: Source for MUSA Seersucker Buttons?

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Acosta

Agree with Patrick.
Best shirts are the shirts with mismatched buttons. Always a good story to 
tell. 

On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:39:59 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Yeah, the buttons seem to be the weak spot of the MUSA shirts. I'll just 
 mismatch when the time comes. That will look more like me anyway. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:25:47 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:

 Four, possible five years after I bought it, my MUSA seersucker shirt 
 still looks good as new.  Except that is, for the top large button which is 
 no a half button.  As this is the third time now the cleaners managed to 
 crack this button, I'm all out of the large spares that came sewn in the 
 hem.

 The local sewing shop has a lot of buttons, but none look that close to 
 the seersucker.  I guess I can always go mismatched.  With luck the 
 originals are available for sale somewhere.



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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

More then 70 less than 85. I don't ride with a computer and Ed didn't have 
his GPS. 

If you have any access to dirt roads just start exploring.

--mike

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:32:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Mike,

 Another great ride report! Makes me want to load the car up and road trip 
 it North. How many miles did you ride?

 Hugh




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Re: [RBW] Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Michael Williams

Thanks for the heads up on Green Gulch trail Mike,   always looking for new
terrain.   The Headlands are prob my favorite place to ride in the Bay
Area.   BTW,   you got a pretty rockin Hilsen yourself there man! Enjoy
the riding   -Mike

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Michael, your bike looks great. SCA! That is such a killer trail. I miss
 the Headlands. Be sure to check out Green Gulch from Muir Beach up to the
 ridge. It's legal and great.

 --mike


 On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31:36 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 looks familiar.   Do you ride up there often?   There are a couple trails
 that say  no bicycles   that are a blast.1)  the rhubarb trail  2)
 oak valley3)   the connector ( or at least i think) of the SCA trail to
 Conzelman Rd.   So fun! Maybe I'll see you up there sometime.  -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread Brewster Fong



On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:23:24 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Mon, 2013-03-25 at 09:44 -0700, jpp wrote: 
  I feel too each their own. I have been doing the one bike idea (RIVed 
  out Surly LHT) for 3 + years.  But I totally understand having more. 
  In fact if money was no option for me I would probably have a few 
  more.  On the flip side there is nothing wrong with having a favorite 
  bike, but does not have to be only bike. 

 Absolutely.  If you ride a lot, there's a lot wrong with just one bike. 
 What do you do if something breaks and gets tied up for a while waiting 
 parts?   


I completely agree with Steve. When I was only riding recreationally, e.g., 
once, maybe twice a week and on weekends or holidays, I only needed one 
bike. However, ever since I started commuting a few years ago, I found that 
one bike is not enough. I have things break on both bikes at the same time 
and actually took time off work to get it to my LBS. He was kind of enough 
to fit me in and get it going. Then I had him work on the 2nd bike, so that 
I always had two ready to go. Yes, things break, so I agree that one bike 
is not enough!


 Last year on Aug 13 I discovered a cracked MA3 rim on the back wheel of 
 my George Longstaff.  I had the LBS build me a replacement with a new 
 Open Pro rim.  That wheel was delivered on Sept. 13.  A week prior, Aug 
 5, I discovered a cracked rear rim on the back wheel of my MAP.  I sent 
 that wheel off to Velocity for rebuild; it came back on Aug. 24.   


I recently ran over my rear wheel when one of my bike fell in front of my 
car. Luckily, the only thing broken was my rear wheel now looks like a 
pretzel! The bad part is it was a recently build up Mavic MA2 rim! Ugh, I 
still have one more and am trying to decide whether to have the rear wheel 
rebuild with the same spokes or get new ones...:(

It is a good thing I have 4 sets of wheels, but that Mavic MA2 with DA rear 
hub was one of my better ones, but it will be rebuilt! Good Luck!


 So for most of August last year, I had two bikes deadlined. Fortunately, 
 I had several other bikes I could ride. 

 And it's more than just having a spare in case a bike is deadlined.  My 
 bikes are all different from one another.  I like to pick the bike most 
 appropriate to the ride I'm going to do.  Of six, only one of my bikes 
 is really suitable for touring with panniers, for example.   





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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I'm not sure how far back Joe Bell paintjobs go, but those decals are 
definitely more recent than 95/96. The earliest Rivs had solid paint, the 
downtube decal was speared, and I don't think there was a seattube decal at 
all. There's a yellowish A/R recently posted here which shows this.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11:40 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the 
 day? Joe how can you tell its a respray? 

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:


 If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
 What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?

 Edwin



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