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On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:21:43 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote:
>
> Corrected:
>
> IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull for the LL. At least early on.
>
> -Norm in PDX.
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
>  
> Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
>  
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. 
> com/blog/
> Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
> Cheers! 
> cm
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

I'm not sure how far back Joe Bell paintjobs go, but those decals are 
definitely more recent than 95/96. The earliest Rivs had solid paint, the 
downtube decal was speared, and I don't think there was a seattube decal at 
all. There's a yellowish A/R recently posted here which shows this.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11:40 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the 
> day? Joe how can you tell its a respray? 
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>
>> If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
>> What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread Brewster Fong

On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:23:24 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2013-03-25 at 09:44 -0700, jpp wrote: 
> > I feel too each their own. I have been doing the one bike idea (RIVed 
> > out Surly LHT) for 3 + years.  But I totally understand having more. 
> > In fact if money was no option for me I would probably have a few 
> > more.  On the flip side there is nothing wrong with having a favorite 
> > bike, but does not have to be only bike. 
>
> Absolutely.  If you ride a lot, there's a lot wrong with just one bike. 
> What do you do if something breaks and gets tied up for a while waiting 
> parts?   
>

I completely agree with Steve. When I was only riding recreationally, e.g., 
once, maybe twice a week and on weekends or holidays, I only needed one 
bike. However, ever since I started commuting a few years ago, I found that 
one bike is not enough. I have things break on both bikes at the same time 
and actually took time off work to get it to my LBS. He was kind of enough 
to fit me in and get it going. Then I had him work on the 2nd bike, so that 
I always had two ready to go. Yes, things break, so I agree that one bike 
is not enough!

>
> Last year on Aug 13 I discovered a cracked MA3 rim on the back wheel of 
> my George Longstaff.  I had the LBS build me a replacement with a new 
> Open Pro rim.  That wheel was delivered on Sept. 13.  A week prior, Aug 
> 5, I discovered a cracked rear rim on the back wheel of my MAP.  I sent 
> that wheel off to Velocity for rebuild; it came back on Aug. 24.   
>

I recently ran over my rear wheel when one of my bike fell in front of my 
car. Luckily, the only thing broken was my rear wheel now looks like a 
pretzel! The bad part is it was a recently build up Mavic MA2 rim! Ugh, I 
still have one more and am trying to decide whether to have the rear wheel 
rebuild with the same spokes or get new ones...:(

It is a good thing I have 4 sets of wheels, but that Mavic MA2 with DA rear 
hub was one of my better ones, but it will be rebuilt! Good Luck!

> So for most of August last year, I had two bikes deadlined. Fortunately, 
> I had several other bikes I could ride. 
>
> And it's more than just having a spare in case a bike is deadlined.  My 
> bikes are all different from one another.  I like to pick the bike most 
> appropriate to the ride I'm going to do.  Of six, only one of my bikes 
> is really suitable for touring with panniers, for example.   
>
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Re: [RBW] Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Michael Williams

Thanks for the heads up on Green Gulch trail Mike,   always looking for new
terrain.   The Headlands are prob my favorite place to ride in the Bay
Area.   BTW,   you got a pretty rockin Hilsen yourself there man! Enjoy
the riding   -Mike

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Mike  wrote:

> Michael, your bike looks great. SCA! That is such a killer trail. I miss
> the Headlands. Be sure to check out Green Gulch from Muir Beach up to the
> ridge. It's legal and great.
>
> --mike
>
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31:36 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>>
>> looks familiar.   Do you ride up there often?   There are a couple trails
>> that say " no bicycles"   that are a blast.1)  the rhubarb trail  2)
>> oak valley3)   the connector ( or at least i think) of the SCA trail to
>> Conzelman Rd.   So fun! Maybe I'll see you up there sometime.  -Mike
>>
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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

More then 70 less than 85. I don't ride with a computer and Ed didn't have 
his GPS. 

If you have any access to dirt roads just start exploring.

--mike

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:32:29 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Another great ride report! Makes me want to load the car up and road trip 
> it North. How many miles did you ride?
>
> Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Source for MUSA Seersucker Buttons?

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Acosta

Agree with Patrick.
Best shirts are the shirts with mismatched buttons. Always a good story to 
tell. 

On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:39:59 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Yeah, the buttons seem to be the weak spot of the MUSA shirts. I'll just 
> mismatch when the time comes. That will look more like me anyway. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:25:47 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> Four, possible five years after I bought it, my MUSA seersucker shirt 
>> still looks good as new.  Except that is, for the top large button which is 
>> no a half button.  As this is the third time now the cleaners managed to 
>> crack this button, I'm all out of the large spares that came sewn in the 
>> hem.
>>
>> The local sewing shop has a lot of buttons, but none look that close to 
>> the seersucker.  I guess I can always go mismatched.  With luck the 
>> originals are available for sale somewhere.
>>
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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

Mike,

Another great ride report! Makes me want to load the car up and road trip 
it North. How many miles did you ride?

Hugh


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[RBW] Re: Me, the Sam and a Friend

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Acosta

Ask the lovely folks at Rivendell HQ. I go there but street names are 
foreign to me. 

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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Acosta

Digging it. Sambas sound like great snow shoes!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:41:44 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
>
> Third week in a row that Ed and I got out for a ride and took in some new 
> dirt roads. This week we went east to the Columbia River Gorge and 
> Multnomah Falls. Once at Multnomah Falls we decided to climb up to Larch 
> Mtn Rd via Palmer Mill Rd, a steep dirt road used by locals. The fact that 
> it's dirt tends to scare away the tourist. We didn't see a single car on 
> it. Towards where it intersects with a paved road we came to Brower Rd 
> which is closed to motorized vehicles. We decided to explore it. Ed had 
> ridden it in the summer a few years before in the summer. It intersects 
> Larch Mtn Rd which climbs from Troutdale for 14 miles to the top of Larch 
> Mtn. In the winter it's closed at milepost 10 and is covered in snow until 
> May or so. As we rode up Brower we came across more and more snow. Against 
> better judgment we continued on pushing our bikes through snow when it 
> became too deep to ride. The snow was interspersed with snow free areas so 
> we felt comfortable with keeping on in spite of us both wearing less than 
> optimal shoes (Ed wearing Sidis and me wearing Sambas. We finally came out 
> at mile post 10 on Larch Mtn Rd. Our feet were wet and cold, our brakes 
> weren't really working and the road wasn't plowed. For the first couple of 
> miles we descended in tire tracks which left "dry" exposed road. It was a 
> bit sketchy but we survived. Once back in Troutdale it was a nice easy ride 
> back into town after a stop for a V8 as I was having some cramping. I was 
> worried about time but made it back into town with plenty of time to 
> pick-up my dog Dirk from doggy day care. What a great day. I'll most likely 
> ride tomorrow too although most likely a ramble through Forest Park and a 
> trip to the library with some coffee drinking and reading in there 
> somewhere.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633101635902/
>
> --mike
>

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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone

Corrected:


IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull for the LL. At least early on.

-Norm in PDX.





 From: Joe Bernard 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. com/blog/
>Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
>Cheers! 
>cm
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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone

IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull. At least early on.

-Norm in PDX.





 From: Joe Bernard 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. com/blog/
>Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
>Cheers! 
>cm
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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

I personally have a Hilsen which I've had since late January. I built it up 
to have just one bike that would do everything I wanted a bike to do, 
credit card touring, fitness rides, commute (which I haven't yet 
accomplished) and mixed terrain. I feel as though it has met all my 
requirements and am so amazed at it's mixed terrain capabilities, despite 
how much I love this bike I have BAS Bike acquisition syndrome and plan on 
building up a Trek 660 as my go quick steed and then I want to build up a 
Trek 850 as my Atlantis type camping rig. I personally rationalize my BAS 
as a healthy past time. I love bicycles and will continue to collect them. 
Heck if I had unlimited $$$  I'd have an Appaloosa like Keven's 

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff3.htmand 

and a  Bomba like Snug Harborman 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8566366471/in/faves-pedalpusher61/

And what ever I could stuff into the garage. Believe me in all other 
matters I'm a minimalist you can ask the wife. I think it's difficult to 
have just one bike but if they aren't being ridden that may be time to 
unload. There you have my two cents, happy cycling with how ever many 
bicycles you have :)

Hugh


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[RBW] Re: This week's adventure.

2013-03-26 Thread Mike Schiller

looks like a perfect day.  Wish I could do rides in that kind of terrain.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Norman Bone

The oldest catalog I have is '99 and ARs were 1575.

-Norm in PDX





 From: hsmitham 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the day? 
Joe how can you tell its a respray? 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

>If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
>What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?
>
>
>Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread cyclotourist

I highly recommend the Kenda Slant Six. Great all-round tire. Rolls nice on
asphalt and hard pack, yet digs in well in corners on softer stuff and the
more common sand over hard-pack that I have around here. Best yet, the SCT
version there is tubeless compatible. Bill should be all over a set!


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Leslie  wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:45:38 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
>
>> Thank goodness the 650Bs are still not available.  I'm reprieved!
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:43:16 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>>
>>> No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William  wrote:
>>>
>>> GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!
>>>
>>>
>
> The Vee Rubber 650b tires I've found yet are more aggressive;  Noticed
> Kenda's slant6 is now available :
> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=60446&category=3482
>
> Wondering about the Hutchinson Cobra air too, but not yet available
> either.  Nor Vredestein's spotted cat   and if Pacenti will get his
> minimoto out eventually...
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Homers new shoes

Michael, your bike looks great. SCA! That is such a killer trail. I miss 
the Headlands. Be sure to check out Green Gulch from Muir Beach up to the 
ridge. It's legal and great.

--mike

On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31:36 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> looks familiar.   Do you ride up there often?   There are a couple trails 
> that say " no bicycles"   that are a blast.1)  the rhubarb trail  2) 
> oak valley3)   the connector ( or at least i think) of the SCA trail to 
> Conzelman Rd.   So fun! Maybe I'll see you up there sometime.  -Mike
>

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[RBW] This week's adventure.

Third week in a row that Ed and I got out for a ride and took in some new 
dirt roads. This week we went east to the Columbia River Gorge and 
Multnomah Falls. Once at Multnomah Falls we decided to climb up to Larch 
Mtn Rd via Palmer Mill Rd, a steep dirt road used by locals. The fact that 
it's dirt tends to scare away the tourist. We didn't see a single car on 
it. Towards where it intersects with a paved road we came to Brower Rd 
which is closed to motorized vehicles. We decided to explore it. Ed had 
ridden it in the summer a few years before in the summer. It intersects 
Larch Mtn Rd which climbs from Troutdale for 14 miles to the top of Larch 
Mtn. In the winter it's closed at milepost 10 and is covered in snow until 
May or so. As we rode up Brower we came across more and more snow. Against 
better judgment we continued on pushing our bikes through snow when it 
became too deep to ride. The snow was interspersed with snow free areas so 
we felt comfortable with keeping on in spite of us both wearing less than 
optimal shoes (Ed wearing Sidis and me wearing Sambas. We finally came out 
at mile post 10 on Larch Mtn Rd. Our feet were wet and cold, our brakes 
weren't really working and the road wasn't plowed. For the first couple of 
miles we descended in tire tracks which left "dry" exposed road. It was a 
bit sketchy but we survived. Once back in Troutdale it was a nice easy ride 
back into town after a stop for a V8 as I was having some cramping. I was 
worried about time but made it back into town with plenty of time to 
pick-up my dog Dirk from doggy day care. What a great day. I'll most likely 
ride tomorrow too although most likely a ramble through Forest Park and a 
trip to the library with some coffee drinking and reading in there 
somewhere.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633101635902/

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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

I'm at 5 and go back and forth on this issue. If I could only have one it 
would be the LHT as it's just the most versatile. Two? The LHT and the 
Hilsen. 3? The LHT, the Hilsen and either the SS Cross Check or the Big 
Dummy cargo bike (I don't own a car). The fifth is my brevet bike and I'm 
tempted to part with it as it's not really being ridden that much. It's 
beautiful, versatile and does it's job but lately... my go to bike is my 
very Rivish LHT with VP pedals, 48mm Noodles, 40mm Schwalbes, Brooks saddle 
and Pletscher twin legged kickstand. It's just a solid capable bike. But my 
bike wants ebb and flow. I have a feeling next year one of these will go to 
make room for a dedicated mountain bike. 

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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the 
day? Joe how can you tell its a respray? 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:
>
>
> If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
> What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Edwin W


If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread James Warren

There was a time where, at that frame size, you'd know the A/R by its 26" 
wheels. On not-large ones, 26" wheels were a defining characteristic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
>  
> 
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
> It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/
> Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions.
> 
> Cheers! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB bar end pods

Riv's bar-end pods are direct copies of Shimano's. They will work with 
Silvers and Dura-Ace dt.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:16:05 PM UTC-7, Alex Zeibot wrote:

> Jim,
> I have Dura Ace DT shifters but would love barcons.  Possible to convert 
> them?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
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>
>> I have tons of Shimano pods, which I think work with silver shifters 
>> (correct me if I'm wrong). I can send you some.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:11 PM UTC-5, JL wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?
>>>
>>> or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?
>>>
>>> reply offlist please
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jason Leach
>>> SF, CA
>>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB bar end pods

2013-03-26 Thread Alex Zeibot

Jim,
I have Dura Ace DT shifters but would love barcons.  Possible to convert
them?


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
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> I have tons of Shimano pods, which I think work with silver shifters
> (correct me if I'm wrong). I can send you some.
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:11 PM UTC-5, JL wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?
>>
>> or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?
>>
>> reply offlist please
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jason Leach
>> SF, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

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> It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/
>
> Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
>
> Cheers! 
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[RBW] Re: WTB bar end pods

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I have tons of Shimano pods, which I think work with silver shifters 
(correct me if I'm wrong). I can send you some.

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>
> Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?
>
> or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?
>
> reply offlist please
>
> Thanks
> Jason Leach
> SF, CA
>  
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Re: [RBW] Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread René Sterental

Very nice!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013, Michael wrote:

> Classy!! Looks like a very Riv-Rando-ready bike!! Congrats.
>>
>>
> What did you mean by "mixed emotions?". Were you hurting after the ride?
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

2013-03-26 Thread Christopher Murray

It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/blog/

Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 

Cheers! 
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[RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread William

moi!?

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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

This is getting a little nuts. Every A/R in the country is suddenly for 
sale! This one appears to be a respray. The early headbadge is accurate, 
but the decals and fancy-Joe-Bell paint are what customs come with. Very 
pretty, my size, yada yada. Oy!
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:42:52 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Just saw this on Ebay. 
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-frame-set-/290887072704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ba387bc0
>
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[RBW] Another All Rounder on the Bay.

Just saw this on Ebay. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-frame-set-/290887072704?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ba387bc0

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[RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Montclair BobbyB

Ever wonder why you never see William and the Michelin Man photographed 
together?  I think he IS the MM...

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[RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

2013-03-26 Thread Michael


>
> @Daniel:
> If I remember, my Hetres are measuring at 38mm wide. They are inflated 
> within the inflation range printed on the sidewall (the lower end of it if 
> I remember). They fit under the fenders better than my Rumpkins did. They 
> look narrower. According to the Rivsite, P45's will take a 45mm wide tire. 
> I'll try to remember to get some pics posted this week if you still want to 
> see.
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[RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread Michael


>
> Classy!! Looks like a very Riv-Rando-ready bike!! Congrats.
>  
>
What did you mean by "mixed emotions?". Were you hurting after the ride? 

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Re: [RBW] Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread James Warren

Thanks for the input everyone. Turns out the ride will be down on the Peninsula 
tomorrow, starting with Dirt Alpine road at 10 AM, then playing it by ear from 
there for several hours of fun. If anybody wants to join, email me directly for 
details.

-Jim W.


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On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Jim Mather  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, James Warren  
> wrote:
>> 
>> My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
>> fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get 
>> back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
>> improved route ideas?
>> I'll be riding 700x55's.
>> 
>> -Jim W.
> 
> 
> Bolinas Ridge is a classic route and well worth riding. You'll be fine
> on that size tire, but will want lower pressure than what you're
> riding on the road to get there. I just started a new job so I can't
> drop everything mid-week to join you, otherwise I would. Have a good
> ride.
> 
> jim m
> wc ca
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[RBW] Re: Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread EastBayGuy

+1 for a stop at Gestalt Haus..

Dustin G

WC Ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Leslie


On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:45:38 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
>
> Thank goodness the 650Bs are still not available.  I'm reprieved!
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:43:16 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>>
>> No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William  wrote:
>>
>> GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!
>>
>>

The Vee Rubber 650b tires I've found yet are more aggressive;  Noticed 
Kenda's slant6 is now available : 
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=60446&category=3482

Wondering about the Hutchinson Cobra air too, but not yet available 
either.  Nor Vredestein's spotted cat   and if Pacenti will get his 
minimoto out eventually...

   

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[RBW] Re: Saluki Shake Down Ride!

2013-03-26 Thread Liesl

Nice!

Is that the original version of the down-tube decal I spy?  If it is, then 
it's an extra special pup from the first Saluki litters!  I also see the 
metal headbadge, which was an upgrade option.

Welcome to the Saluki Pack!

RCW (who might have a Riv Chica Warhorse but also has a Riv Chica Saluki 
Hound)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:45 -0700, RoadieRyan wrote:
> Fair enough Steve, how would you rate the Conti Gator Skins or
> Schwalbe Marathons which also have  27x1 1/4 options?

I don't know Contis at all.  The Marathons are a heavy duty touring
tire.  Where do they sit in Schwalbe's hierarchy?  Scanning their site
quickly it looks as though it's roughly comparable to the Pasela in
Panaracer's hierarchy, and not one of their high end tires.





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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread RoadieRyan

Fair enough Steve, how would you rate the Conti Gator Skins or Schwalbe 
Marathons 
which also have  27x1 1/4 options?

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:00:48 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 05:59 -0700, Ron Mc wrote: 
> > I agree there are many good 27" tires still made, including Pasela TG 
> > folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these.  Schwalbe 
> > Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness 
> > spectrum. 
>
> Just to be clear: I never said there were no good 27" tires.  I said 
> there were no high-end top quality tires in that size.  To me the Pasela 
> TG is an economy tire.   
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Minh

i will echo what steve says, measure!  i made the same assumption a few 
years ago (still have the bike), and did the conversion because the 
existing wheels were chromed steel (in poor condition), the back was no 
issue even with short reach side-pulls.  but the front fork had tons of 
tire clearance already, so switching out to even long reach side-pulls 
didn't work, i used a make-shift drop-bolt for a few years until i found a 
crazy long reach sidepull (~75mm ish) made by shimano which i'm using now.

This was not an uncommon occurence as i think campy or dia-compe made 
machined drop bolts a long time ago.  

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:14:59 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:07 -0700, James Warren wrote: 
> > 
> > On an older 27" road frame, switching to 700C on a frame with Sidepull 
> > brakes is hassle-free, but on a frame with cantilever brakes, there 
> > will often be problems with pad alignment. 
>
> Freedom from hassles is a matter of having sufficient reach.  I recall 
> seeing some 27" sidepull frames back in the day that had enormous 
> clearance, and barely made it with long reach sidepulls.  You may have 
> issues with a frame like that. 
>
> With cantilevers, some frames and some brakes have room to move the pads 
> down.  Others do not. 
>
>
>
>

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Today was a major transition day. I trimmed and mounted the bedroom doors,
thus bringing an end to a renovation project that has occupied me since new
years; cleaned my shop; put in an order for vegetable seeds; and took the
new to me Saluki for an hour and half shake down cruise. Given temps in
the hi 30s, I skipped the screaming down hill test.

It is with very mixed emotions that I have to report that this bike is in
much better condition than I am!

The bike came to me with the 600 HS, PW bottom bracket, Riv wheels & Pari
Moto tires, Mafac levers, as well as a beautiful, classic Specialized
crank, VO AL. fenders and racks Unfortunately, I needed to replace the
Nitto Pearl stem with something shorter and decided to try a Mark's Bar. (
the jury is still out on the latter) I swapped out a nice pair of classic
pedals for my White Ind & Bruce Gordon clips, replaced a hi polish tektro
brakes with my neo-retros, and Deore detailers for older campy Centaur &
Mirage. Early, Selle Anatomica saddle.

As I was headed out, it occurred to me I should take some pics before this
dog rolled in mud. My quick photography doesn't do it justice but the
slide show comes closest to capturing the nice paint job. I think I will
rewrap the bars with something more mellow, in cloth.

https://plus.google.com/photos/110692344592863063357/albums/5859744561306659185?gpinv=AMIXal9g7EErBUEyUYKaPP0wgSM6C9TiKHn9Ni94wEiDyjh8RMWDjfgGWcn720PAA0GPAYPthzVhg3mwJy6o8itISEf6eD3NAZcYRv_LMkVKt8hCyyXWRU0&cfem=1&authkey=CM-RtYmyvOKvxAE

Next I'm off on a road trip, alas without a bike. Hope to be in St Paul
for a conference by the 11th. Jim, if time permits, I'll come by your shop
and drool on something!

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:07 -0700, James Warren wrote:
> 
> On an older 27" road frame, switching to 700C on a frame with Sidepull
> brakes is hassle-free, but on a frame with cantilever brakes, there
> will often be problems with pad alignment.

Freedom from hassles is a matter of having sufficient reach.  I recall
seeing some 27" sidepull frames back in the day that had enormous
clearance, and barely made it with long reach sidepulls.  You may have
issues with a frame like that.

With cantilevers, some frames and some brakes have room to move the pads
down.  Others do not.

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Re: [RBW] A nice 59 cm Heron on a certain auction site

2013-03-26 Thread mikel66...@juno.com

i had a similiar first generation 57cm Heron Tourer. as a loaded tourer it 
handled well and was quite comfortable. i never used it with less than 4 
panniers, rear rack/bag and front handlebar bag so i cant comment on how it 
rode unloaded

it did have a couple shortcomings. first, a modern loaded tourer doenst need 
horizontal dropouts. second, the fork crown could fit a 700x38mm tire but wasnt 
wide enough to accomadate 50mm fenders while pinching SKS 45mm fenders

i sold the 57cm and bought a used second generation Heron tourer (Wayfarer i 
believe) which has vertical dropouts and a wider/stouter fork crown. it hangs 
on the wall unbuilt so i cant compare but it might be called into action this 
summer

mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread James Warren

Is it safe to say the following in general:

On an older 27" road frame, switching to 700C on a frame with Sidepull brakes 
is hassle-free, but on a frame with cantilever brakes, there will often be 
problems with pad alignment.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Christopher Miller Rosales 
 wrote:

> I did a conversion on a Trek 620 a while back, the brakes couldn't make the 
> adjustment. The REAL problem is that the brake posts are much more narrow on 
> the 27" bikes and modern brakes are designed for the wider brakes designed 
> after the mountain bike transition. Look more a pair of old smooth post Deore 
> XT cantilevers, they work great.
> 
> I highly doubt they'll drop low enough for a 650b conversion though. 
> Honestly, I'd just stick with 700c so you don't have to do a conversion, I 
> don't see a big point in doing 650b conversions unless there is no clearance 
> in the original frame; a bike made with 27" wheels and cantilevers is likely 
> a touring bike and should easily swallow some 700 x 35's.
> 
> Check out this blogpost for a bit more information, not me but the same bike 
> I worked on:
> http://nihonmaru.blogspot.com/2011/08/phoenix-project-shimano-m732-cantilever.html
> 
> After getting a quality pair of 27" wheels I regret doing the conversion. I 
> got tired of always stretching the drop out to fit the modern wheel (I'm too 
> lazy to coldset). I have some beautiful phil wood hubs laced to 27" Super 
> Champion rims, tubes, and wolber tires that is looking for a new owner. The 
> bearings are smooth as butter and they roll true. Shoot me a message if you 
> are interested!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
> Berkeley, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 05:59 -0700, Ron Mc wrote:
> I agree there are many good 27" tires still made, including Pasela TG
> folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these.  Schwalbe
> Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness
> spectrum.

Just to be clear: I never said there were no good 27" tires.  I said
there were no high-end top quality tires in that size.  To me the Pasela
TG is an economy tire.  



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Re: [RBW] retroshift reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Alex Zeibot

Awkward at first until after 100-150 shifts I got used to it.  I still find
shifting with a thumb a little challenging as contrasted index/middle
fingers.  Requires more work and leverage. At least it is to me.  Works
best with indexed shifters rather than friction/ratchet specific ones like
Silvers.



On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM, JL  wrote:

> Has anyone used retroshift shifters for long enough to have a review about
> them?
>
> I wonder how in-the-way the shifters are?
>
> Jason Leach
> SF, CA
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell All 'Rounder price question.

2013-03-26 Thread Ryan

I'm glad that you are keeping it for now. I bought mine as the fancy 
going-to-church version of my 93 X0-1 which I also still have and ride more 
often. But the AR was the 1st "custom" I ever owned and I had lots of fun 
picking out the partssome Rivish, some not so much. I do ride it and I 
would be sorry to sell it. There's  emotional as well as financial 
investment in a fine and special bike. Which those ARs are
 
Now, one of the components we share are those Superbe levers; if you can 
tell me where you scored new gum hoods, I would love to know :) 
 
On Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:46:05 PM UTC-5, kevin spicher wrote:

> Hello all..
> I have a Rivendell All 'Rounder purchased in 1996-97 (I have the receipt 
> somewhere).It has Richard Sachs lugs and if I remember right it is a 55 (I 
> am 5'11" 160 LBS)  I am considering selling it, but I have no idea what it 
> is worth. It has very low mileage, guessing maybe 3 or 4K and has been 
> maintained impeccably. I think it's only ever been ridden in the rain a 
> couple times. Here is a photoMKS touring pedals, Paul touring Cantis, 
> Nitto Dream Bar, Nitto Pearl stem, Mavic 661 crank (I think that's the 
> model #) Simplex super lj rear derailer, Simplex front derailer Phil 
> touring Hubs, Sun CR 18 rims, The tires in the photo are wrong it has 
> Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, Phil BB, ESGE fenders, Suntour Superbe ( I 
> have new gum hoods not on yet) Willow chainring with tripleizer, 
> Specialized seatpost.
>
> I have much better and bigger pics if anyone is interested.
>
> I would appreciate all feedback considering what it is worth and what I 
> would probably get for it.
>
> Thank You,
> Kevin
>

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[RBW] retroshift reviews

2013-03-26 Thread JL

Has anyone used retroshift shifters for long enough to have a review about 
them?

I wonder how in-the-way the shifters are?

Jason Leach
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Gabe suggests a good couple o' routes - are you starting from the city?  If 
so, you'll have to climb and ride a bit to hit Bolinas Ridge Trail.   From 
Ridgecrest (Seven Sisters) where it connects with Bofax, it starts wet and 
sloppy, then gets rocky for a bit, then opens up and is more of a farm 
road/firetrail.  Before it connects with SFD, there is a trail which drops 
down to the Cross Marin Path, which is the bike path that parallels SFD and 
goes to Samuel P. Taylor State Park.  You can follow the path and then 
continue on an unpaved road all the way to Inkwells Bridge, which puts you 
back on SFD (and you can then head back through Lagunitas and Woodacre to 
Fairfax. 

You probably won't find "Bofax" on a map, but that is the "Bolinas-Fairfax 
Road".   Also, SFD = "Sir Francis Drake Blvd"

55's will probably cover anything you are likely to find on the mountain, 
though the top end of Eldridge Grade (where it connects with East 
Ridgecrest just below the East Peak Parking lot - not really on any route 
suggested here) is pretty rocky. 

There can be some pretty good climate changes in the bay area.  Layers and 
a shell/vest is good.  

If you wanted to roll up RR Grade out of Mill Valley, then cut over on Old 
Stage Road, you can pick up the road at Pantoll Ranger Station.  Head up 
Ridgecrest (which I think is actually "Pantoll" at that point, then cut 
left on (West) Ridgecrest when you get to Portrero Meadow.  That would get 
you Bolinas Ridge Trail. Once you commit to Bolinas Ridge, you are on it 
for a bit until you reach the trail mentioned above.

You could bail out onto Bofax Road, which will eventually drop you back 
down to Fairfax (after a climb or two - you'll drop steeply from the ridge 
to Alpine Dam, then continue around the watershed lakes, over another 
smaller ridge and then drop down past the golf course.   

Going through Fairfax, there's Gestalt House on (what becomes at that 
point) Bolinas Ave.  Also Iron Springs Brewery on Center.  Expanded natural 
foods store right there.  You're probably an hour from the city at that 
point, via a well-travelled but not-always-obvious route.  The cue sheet 
for the 200K from SFR is helpful.  
http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/route-archive.htm  (the populaire and 
lighthouse 200K follow the same roads out of Fairfax.)

Hope that makes sense.  

- Jim

On Monday, March 25, 2013 9:24:37 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
> fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get 
> back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
> improved route ideas? 
> I'll be riding 700x55's. 
>
> -Jim W. 
>

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[RBW] WTB bar end pods

2013-03-26 Thread JL

Does anyone have a spare set of bar end pods?

or silver/ diacompe bar end shifters?

reply offlist please

Thanks
Jason Leach
SF, CA
 

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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread Kelly

Now I feel better about my bikes ... room in the garage is still tight 
though.


On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:31:26 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
> I chuckled at the OP's comment about putting on his 32 mm rubber for rough 
> stuff. I don't own a bike that has tires that skinny. The closest thing I 
> have to a "road bike" has 38-40 mm tires and is getting sold later today. 
> After that, I'll only have one bike that will even accept tires as skinny 
> as 32 mm, but it's currently wearing 55 mm Big Apples.
>
> Any of my bikes could easily be my "just one bike". I don't have much 
> interest in fast roadie-type riding, which frees me from "needing" 2 or 3 
> slightly varied bikes to fill that popular category. The other side of the 
> token is that all my bikes are clustered in the all-rounder camp, and there 
> is considerable overlap. I really should sell something.
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:12:09 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
>>
>> "The long miles we put on a bike almost demands we go for comfort, even 
>> at a small cost in weight." 
>>
>> "If I want to do some trail riding then I remove my 700c X28mm tires and 
>> instal my 32mm's."
>>
>> Three or four years ago I was able to think of 700x28 as a "comfort" 
>> choice.  Now, 700x28 is a balls-out racer choice in my mind.  
>>
>> To me, having one bike would be as fun as having one change of clothes. 
>>  I like being able to look into the closet, contemplate a few choices, and 
>> put on what I feel like putting on.  I don't have a favorite shirt and I 
>> don't have spare shirts.  I have a bunch of clothes that I like wearing, 
>> most being versatile, and some being for a specific activity.  If I find 
>> that I haven't worn *that* shirt in a long time, I get rid of it.  
>>
>> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, capnjack wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am 65 and ride with a semi-retired psychologist who is 80 and a 
>>> retired ophthalmologist who is 66.  We ride almost 100 miles every week 
>>> year round.  Two of us own steel bikes and one has an aluminum road bicycle.
>>> The long miles we put on a bike almost demands we go for comfort, even 
>>> at a small cost in weight.  My SOMA Fabrications Extra Smoothie is the only 
>>> bike I could ever need.  
>>> As a matter of fact, I had a Specialized Roubaix Pro with Dura-ace and a 
>>> double-suspended mountain bike, but I found that I was using the Soma for 
>>> all or most of my rides, so I sold the other bikes.
>>> If I want to do some trail riding then I remove my 700c X28mm tires and 
>>> instal my 32mm's.
>>> Grant is right about most things bicycling; You don't need all the stuff 
>>> they try to sell you.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread rcnute

I saw last night that there is a new Soma randonneur bar too.

Ryan

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22:43 AM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is more 
> confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by the 
> way, is also made by Nitto.
>  
> *http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843*
>  
> René
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard 
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo. 
>> Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar. 
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:
>>
>>> While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to 
>>> arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I 
>>> stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8591612115/in/**photostream
>>>
>>> It’s labelled GB and British Made. 
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592703534/in/**
>>> set-72157633092067433
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592699168/in/**
>>> set-72157633092067433
>>>
>>> When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate 
>>> bend at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592696840/in/**
>>> set-72157633092067433/**lightbox/
>>>
>>> Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a 
>>> pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe 
>>> now or corrected? 
>>>
>>> BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress 
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> David Hays
>>>
>>> Kenmore, New York
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Removing brake cable hanger from headset: replacement spacer required?

2013-03-26 Thread Tom Harrop

Yep, I'll probably get one of those next time I order from Riv. Anyway the 
hanger has been replaced with a spacer now, bag is happy, bike is 50 g lighter 
by Doug's estimate. Bet that gets my average speed up over 10 mph! Next up, to 
shave the brake pads...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread David Hays

I'd heard the same-actually maybe from you- so bought a used Grand Bois 
Randonneur bar from someone someone on the list while waiting for the Nitto to 
come in. I thought I could always return the Nitto.
I paid more for the used Grand Bois than the new Nitto. Still waiting for the 
GB to arrive. 
What do you find more comfortable about the GB?
David

On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:22 AM, René Sterental wrote:

> If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is more 
> confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by the 
> way, is also made by Nitto.
>  
> http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843
>  
> René
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo. 
> Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar.
>  
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
> 
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:
> While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to arrive- 
> one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I stopped by the 
> bike coop and found this bar:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream
> It’s labelled GB and British Made. 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433
> When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate bend at 
> the right end, it is almost exactly the same.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/
> Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a pipe 
> in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe now or 
> corrected? 
> BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress to it.
> David Hays
> Kenmore, New York
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[RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Christopher Miller Rosales

I did a conversion on a Trek 620 a while back, the brakes couldn't make the 
adjustment. The REAL problem is that the brake posts are much more narrow 
on the 27" bikes and modern brakes are designed for the wider brakes 
designed after the mountain bike transition. Look more a pair of old smooth 
post Deore XT cantilevers, they work great.

I highly doubt they'll drop low enough for a 650b conversion though. 
Honestly, I'd just stick with 700c so you don't have to do a conversion, I 
don't see a big point in doing 650b conversions unless there is no 
clearance in the original frame; a bike made with 27" wheels and 
cantilevers is likely a touring bike and should easily swallow some 700 x 
35's.

Check out this blogpost for a bit more information, not me but the same 
bike I worked on:
http://nihonmaru.blogspot.com/2011/08/phoenix-project-shimano-m732-cantilever.html

After getting a quality pair of 27" wheels I regret doing the conversion. I 
got tired of always stretching the drop out to fit the modern wheel (I'm 
too lazy to coldset). I have some beautiful phil wood hubs laced to 27" 
Super Champion rims, tubes, and wolber tires that is looking for a new 
owner. The bearings are smooth as butter and they roll true. Shoot me a 
message if you are interested!

Cheers,

Chris
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread Andy Forquer

As a cubicle hamster I can't do it, but let me know if you want to grab a 
beer afterwards in Bezerkley!

-Andy

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:56:56 AM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, James Warren 
> > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount 
> Tam fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to 
> get back south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer 
> improved route ideas? 
> > I'll be riding 700x55's. 
> > 
> > -Jim W. 
>
>
> Bolinas Ridge is a classic route and well worth riding. You'll be fine 
> on that size tire, but will want lower pressure than what you're 
> riding on the road to get there. I just started a new job so I can't 
> drop everything mid-week to join you, otherwise I would. Have a good 
> ride. 
>
> jim m 
> wc ca 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell All 'Rounder price question.

2013-03-26 Thread kevin spicher

I posted a reply yesterday but don't see it. 
I appreciate all who have posted their thoughts concerning my dilemma. I 
would say the majority (including my wife) say do not sell, I know it is a 
special bike but I didn't know it was so highly regarded. 

After a decade of BMX, a decade of Freestyle and a decade of Mt Biking 
(with a few road bike years thrown in) I sometimes wonder if the Riv fits 
in with my bicycle evolution. I appreciate it and believe in the 
philosophies, but I'm going to get another Mt Bike and keep the Riv for now 
and see how much or how little dust it collects over the next year or so. 
It may end up for sale on here at that time.

Thanks so much for all the input.

Kevin

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:46:05 PM UTC-7, kevin spicher wrote:
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> Hello all..
> I have a Rivendell All 'Rounder purchased in 1996-97 (I have the receipt 
> somewhere).It has Richard Sachs lugs and if I remember right it is a 55 (I 
> am 5'11" 160 LBS)  I am considering selling it, but I have no idea what it 
> is worth. It has very low mileage, guessing maybe 3 or 4K and has been 
> maintained impeccably. I think it's only ever been ridden in the rain a 
> couple times. Here is a photoMKS touring pedals, Paul touring Cantis, 
> Nitto Dream Bar, Nitto Pearl stem, Mavic 661 crank (I think that's the 
> model #) Simplex super lj rear derailer, Simplex front derailer Phil 
> touring Hubs, Sun CR 18 rims, The tires in the photo are wrong it has 
> Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, Phil BB, ESGE fenders, Suntour Superbe ( I 
> have new gum hoods not on yet) Willow chainring with tripleizer, 
> Specialized seatpost.
>
> I have much better and bigger pics if anyone is interested.
>
> I would appreciate all feedback considering what it is worth and what I 
> would probably get for it.
>
> Thank You,
> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] Was Planning on Riding Some Dirt In Marin Wednesday - San Francisco ride idea

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Mather

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM, James Warren  wrote:
>
> My brother and I have been talking Bolinas Ridge or perhaps some Mount Tam 
> fire roads heading generally north via dirt and then riding Drake to get back 
> south this Wednesday. Anyone interested in coming or want to offer improved 
> route ideas?
> I'll be riding 700x55's.
>
> -Jim W.


Bolinas Ridge is a classic route and well worth riding. You'll be fine
on that size tire, but will want lower pressure than what you're
riding on the road to get there. I just started a new job so I can't
drop everything mid-week to join you, otherwise I would. Have a good
ride.

jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] A nice 59 cm Heron on a certain auction site

2013-03-26 Thread Peter Morgano

I have also been watching it, I would love love this bike but I am at 5
already. I dont have a "go fast" bike in the stable right now though, but
that excuse wont fly with my wife, I dont think at least.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Tom Goodmann  wrote:

> I've been alerted to a clean-looking Heron (59 cm ST) on the auction site;
> I'll watch closely, and thought others might be interested.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread William

Thank goodness the 650Bs are still not available.  I'm reprieved!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:43:16 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William > 
> wrote:
>
> GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:04:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Got some new tires for the Hilsen.   They are Vee Rubber 12s.They are 
>> just about perfect for the mixed terrain riding I enjoy most.  They ride 
>> wonderfully.   They're a little tight at the chainstays,   But they fit.   
>>  They measure 44.5 on Synergy rims.They'll be on for a while.Enjoy 
>> the riding.  -Mike 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread Mike Williams

No.  Those are 700x47. (44.5 actual)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William  wrote:

> GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!
> 
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:04:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Got some new tires for the Hilsen.   They are Vee Rubber 12s.They are 
>> just about perfect for the mixed terrain riding I enjoy most.  They ride 
>> wonderfully.   They're a little tight at the chainstays,   But they fit.
>> They measure 44.5 on Synergy rims.They'll be on for a while.Enjoy 
>> the riding.  -Mike 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[RBW] FS: 46 Noodles (1), Drop Bars

2013-03-26 Thread allenmichael

$81 retail. I would like to get $50, plus the actual shipping. Local sale 
is much preferred in SF.

I purchased them new from Rivendell, put them on an Atlantis and rode them 
from SF to SoCal a couple of times. They've been taped and do not look new, 
but will work just as well.

Decided that I prefer a flat or swept-back bar. 

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[RBW] Re: Homers new shoes

2013-03-26 Thread William

GAH!  More 650B tires that I have to buy!  Curses!

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>
>
>
>
>
> Got some new tires for the Hilsen.   They are Vee Rubber 12s.They are 
> just about perfect for the mixed terrain riding I enjoy most.  They ride 
> wonderfully.   They're a little tight at the chainstays,   But they fit.   
>  They measure 44.5 on Synergy rims.They'll be on for a while.Enjoy 
> the riding.  -Mike 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[RBW] A nice 59 cm Heron on a certain auction site

2013-03-26 Thread Tom Goodmann

I've been alerted to a clean-looking Heron (59 cm ST) on the auction site; 
I'll watch closely, and thought others might be interested.

--Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread RoadieRyan

Actually Schwable, Panaracer and Continetial to name a few still make good 
quality 27inch tires.  I agree that you do have more options with 700c but 
that doesn't mean there are no good options for 27inch.  

Hugh check my posting here is you want to see what your options are today 
 for 27 inch 
wheels 
http://ryansrebuilds.blogspot.com/2013/02/myth-busted-there-are-very-few-options.html
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:48:19 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 00:27 -0700, IanA wrote: 
> > Why are you wanting to convert from 27" (630) to 700c (622)?  It's not 
> > a noticeable difference.  The tire/rim availability of 700c is the 
> > only real reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 
> > 700c), but there are various options for the old 27" (630) standard. 
> > Jensonusa.com carry a fair selection of tires and even have a budget 
> > price wheelset for screw on freewheel that works for 126mm spacing. 
>
> There are many more tires available in 622 than 630, and there are no 
> high-end top quality tires in 630 any more.  That's enough reason for 
> many. 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: One Bike Concept

2013-03-26 Thread SteveD



I've gone around in circles wanting/not wanting an extra bike in addition 
to my '03 Atlantis (the frame/fork cost $900.00 back then). A few years 
back, I was looking into getting a Riv Custom; even had a deal with my wife 
that if I road all year round and lose twenty pounds, I could order one up. 
Road the Atlantis year-round, even lost twenty pounds, I nixt the Custom 
because I couldn't justify the cost of building-up another bike. Recently, 
I've been lusting after a HIlson 650B but then couldn't justify the cost of 
building-up a new bike. Shoot, I was even contemplating the Rodeo just for 
its sportiness. 

Even though I can rationalize having a another bike, I end up choking on 
the extra cost. So, I ended up compromising, and threw some buck on spendy 
Paul brakes, Honjo Hammereds, a rondo rear rack, SON delux hub with LED 
light, and a Phil touring hub; all that's left is swapping out the Shimano 
BB for a Phil. Very spendy, I know, but the Atlantis is very smooth and 
comfortable on the road. Plus, now I have the bike that 
I've-always-wanted-but-never-could-afford. 

But, to honest, if the economy wasn't so upside-down-in-every-which-way, I 
get a Hilson or Rodeo and build it up with all the bells and whistles, and 
call it a day and go ride.

-Steve DeMont
Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread René Sterental

If you want a new safe bar that looks just like that one and IMHO is more
confortable than the Nitto, try the Grand Bois Randonneur bar, which by the
way, is also made by Nitto.

*http://tinyurl.com/bb9t843*

René


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo.
> Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar.
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:
>
>> While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to
>> arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I
>> stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8591612115/in/**photostream
>>
>> It’s labelled GB and British Made.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592703534/in/**
>> set-72157633092067433
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592699168/in/**
>> set-72157633092067433
>>
>> When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate
>> bend at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**71834221@N00/8592696840/in/**
>> set-72157633092067433/**lightbox/
>>
>> Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a
>> pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe
>> now or corrected?
>>
>> BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress
>> to it.
>>
>> David Hays
>>
>> Kenmore, New York
>>
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar

I don't think anyone here is qualified to say it's safe based on a photo. 
Personally, I wouldn't ride an old bent bar. 
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:34:02 AM UTC-7, Davidbea wrote:

> While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to 
> arrive- one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I 
> stopped by the bike coop and found this bar:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream
>
> It’s labelled GB and British Made. 
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433
>
> When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate bend 
> at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/
>
> Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a 
> pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe 
> now or corrected? 
>
> BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress to 
> it.
>
> David Hays
>
> Kenmore, New York
>

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[RBW] Handlebar

2013-03-26 Thread Davidbea



While waiting for the Nitto randonneur bar I ordered from my LBS to arrive- 
one of thre options I’m considering for my new Homer build- I stopped by 
the bike coop and found this bar:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8591612115/in/photostream

It’s labelled GB and British Made. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592703534/in/set-72157633092067433

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592699168/in/set-72157633092067433

When the Nitto I lined the two up and noticed, besides an unfortunate bend 
at the right end, it is almost exactly the same.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/8592696840/in/set-72157633092067433/lightbox/

Is this the bar the Nitto is patterned after? Would it be okay to put a 
pipe in the bar end  to ‘correct’ the errant right end. Would it be safe 
now or corrected? 

BTW I am 62 years old and 150 lbs so wouldn’t be adding a lot of stress to 
it.

David Hays

Kenmore, New York

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RE: [RBW] Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J

Hugh:

I've converted a couple of '80s Japanese 27 inch bikes to 650B (Nishiki Century 
mixte here 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7161292749/in/set-72157627582881347 , 
Fuji Espree here 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/5053260214/in/set-72157624973250063/ 
).  The conversion made both bikes much more comfortable, and I think they look 
great.

I used the Dia Compe Model 750 brakes that Riv sells to convert the Fuji; there 
was still a bit of room in the slots, as they're very long reach brakes.  They 
stop well, nevertheless.

On the mixte, I built a wheelset with Sturmey Archer drum brake hubs (on list 
member Bobby Birmingham's recommendation).  They are really nice, stop 
beautifully, and look appropriate with an older frame , so are good candidates 
for conversions.  The 3 speed rear is even spaced for old frames - 118 mm, if I 
remember right.  I liked the result of this one so much that I'm working on 
another one for a charity auction, using another '80s mixte frame (a Fuji) and 
exactly the same wheelset.

Tom

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 
650b

On 26/03/13 12:18, hsmitham wrote:
Hey Folks,

First can a bike with 27" wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the best Canti 
breaks to use? And can a 27" wheel be converted to a 650B? There is a 46mm 
difference between 27" to 650B which seems too large a jump down for such a 
conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.

If you have modern cantilevers with an adjustment slot for the pad position, 
converting from 27" to 700c should be pretty easy, provided there is 4mm of 
adjustment available in the slot.

The difference between 27" and 650b is 23mm, not 46mm (it's the difference in 
radius that has to be adjusted for). If you want to continue using cantilevers, 
you'll have to get a framebuilder to move the studs. Or alternatively, you 
could get another fork designed for the 650b wheel, and use a rear disk brake 
with a Brake Therapy unit that mounts off the existing cantilever stud (see 
http://2btherapy.com/bikes/brake-therapy-conversion-kit). That way you can 
still convert back to 27"/700c by putting back the original fork and reverting 
to cantilever brakes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-03-26 Thread cyclotourist

Excellent!


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Brent  wrote:

>  Thank you everyone for the encouragement - I just saw the ad within
> one hour of it being posted and knowing Craigslist I knew i better move
> fast. I will add some images at some point. I spent most of last night
> ordering parts and have just about everything I need. I hope to purchase a
> pair of 700C wheels locally  today ( Ultegra 32h hubs with Mavic Open Pro
> rims ).
>
>
> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
>
>>
>>I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in
>> good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto
>> crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano
>> 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt
>> I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The
>> owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be
>> looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell
>> along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Brent Avery
>>
>>Vancouver, B.C.
>>
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[RBW] FS/T: Nitto Bullmoose Bar, 200mm, Unpainted

2013-03-26 Thread Adam

I am interested and in Berkeley. I have a jitensha bar with a dirt drop stem as 
well as some 650b tires to trade. Send a personal message if your interested. 

Thanks,
Adam

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[RBW] Re: Removing brake cable hanger from headset: replacement spacer required?

2013-03-26 Thread Michael


>
> While you are at it, maybe get a headset spacer with a bell mount on it 
> like this:
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bellhed.htm
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[RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b

2013-03-26 Thread Ron Mc

I agree there are many good 27" tires still made, including Pasela TG 
folding bead - Nashbar just got a new inventory of these.  Schwalbe 
Marathons and Contis at the other end of the weight and toughness spectrum. 
 Also agree that you can't always make the swap.  My rear centerpull, 
Weinmann 750 is just not quite long enough to reach a 700c rim.  

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:27:47 AM UTC-5, IanA wrote:
>
> Why are you wanting to convert from 27" (630) to 700c (622)?  It's not a 
> noticeable difference.  The tire/rim availability of 700c is the only real 
> reason (and there would be a fraction more clearance with 700c), but there 
> are various options for the old 27" (630) standard.  Jensonusa.com carry a 
> fair selection of tires and even have a budget price wheelset for screw on 
> freewheel that works for 126mm spacing.
>
> I converted from 27" to 700c on a bike because someone sold me a cheap 
> (but good) 700 wheelset, complete with tires.  I must have re-spaced the 
> rear triangle, but the brakes needed nothing more than realigning the pads. 
>
> I could then run either 27" or 700c within a range of 126mm to 130mm with 
> no problem as long as the brake pads were realigned each time.
>
> On Monday, March 25, 2013 7:18:05 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hey Folks,
>>
>> First can a bike with 27" wheels (630mm) be converted to 700c ( 622mm) 
>> essentially 8mm difference smaller wheel diameter. What would be the best 
>> Canti breaks to use? And can a 27" wheel be converted to a 650B? There is a 
>> 46mm difference between 27" to 650B which seems too large a jump down for 
>> such a conversion. In advance thank you for any advice.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Hugh
>> Sunland, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: wanted: large saddlesack

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Thanks! Please send measurements and a picture or two.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question 27" wheel conversion to 700c wheels and maybe to 650b