[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
I considered a Sam. I agree that it is much more handsome than the Marcos. But it is a little heavier than what I'm looking for. I already have (non-Riv) bike that fits the cargo and loaded touring bill. I'm looking for something with more zip, but short of a racing bike. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:25:12 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Just get a Sam. There is only a 325$ difference between them for the frames. If you are gonna get a Riv-build, they are still only about 325 different total for the complete bikes. Problem solved. You can get a Riv for the same price basically. The Sam has a much prettier curve to the fork, and better paint job too. More eyelets, etc. Definitely worht waiting to save up 325 more bucks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
I'm sure that is all true, but the Roadeo headbadge clearly says Rivendell Bicycle Works around the edges. Yes, the big print in the middle only says Roadeo but Rivendell is clearly on there. Something like that for the San Marcos would be nice. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:29:41 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: What's the motiviation in this case? Is this a case of buying a Camaro but wanting a Firebird? I've seen some people complain that the model specific bikes don't have enough Rivendell badging either. The Roadeo doesn't have an RBW badge either! I think R`BW have been pretty consistent that only the customs get full RBW badging. On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I digress. As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves with all parts purchased from Rivendell? Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever). I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one. J Of course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
I am lucky enough to own both a Roadeo and a San Marcos. I really enjoy both, and here's a little secret: if you can work out the fit on the SM, you're not giving up $1300 in performance or enjoyment. It's definitely not as pretty as the Roadeo, but it's guaranteed to put a smile on your face when you swing a leg over. Don't get me wrong, i'm not giving up my Roadeo (having lost my Ram and three perfect vertabrae to an elderly driver), but the SM is pure Riv fun and practicality. BTW, i think the Soma badge with the Sutro Tower is aces. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
I feel you on this, I drove a Porsche 914 for years and got a lot of crap from the Porsche crowds. (914 was sold everywhere else as a VW). My '82 Stumpjumper has a Designed by Tim Neenon on the chainstay which I think is uber-cool. That said, with the bike built up those who care about these things would know that facts already, and those that don't care - well, don't care. Pearls before swine, I say. Proud of my Atlantis with the little by rivendell decals. Tony On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:29:41 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: What's the motiviation in this case? Is this a case of buying a Camaro but wanting a Firebird? I've seen some people complain that the model specific bikes don't have enough Rivendell badging either. The Roadeo doesn't have an RBW badge either! I think R`BW have been pretty consistent that only the customs get full RBW badging. On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I digress. As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves with all parts purchased from Rivendell? Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever). I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one. J Of course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Need a recommendation for 2-bike storage system
Thx y'alls. Went the route of a single suspended bike, with the two others nestled underneath. That should at least create some space and prevent some of the clanging and swaying that a pile 'o bikes leaning up 'gainst one another will summon. FYI, ended up getting this product here. Seems solid enough for a 25-ish pounder. Hope it works out: http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cycling/BikeStorageRacks/PRD~5012-399/swagman-fold-it-bike-hanger.jsp KJ On Monday, April 29, 2013 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Hey there, I'm short on space in my apartment, and I've begun to look at the horizontal hanging apparatuses to hang two bikes, one above the other. Like this one: Swagman Hang Ithttp://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cycling/BikeStorageRacks/PRD~5012-400/swagman-hang-it-bike-hanger.jsp The reviews on this particular one are mixed, but mostly positive. Anyone else have experience with this style of hanging system, or have better results with something else? The space I have to work with is a 5' x 9' wall. Thanks! Kieran -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..
That looks really nice. Good call on the colour. By the way I've had good luck fixing squeaky B17s with a bit of Obenauf's or equivalent between the leather and the metal frame... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
Wow! Thats 'a list of parts well done. Hugh On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:43:06 PM UTC-7, Matt Gilkey wrote: OK, here we go again.. Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires. I like those too. So in an attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off list at *mg...@hotmail.com* javascript:. Thanks for looking. -Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00 -Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp area $40.00 -Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not included, $80.00 -Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions well $25.00 -Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00 -Velo Orange front rack, $45.00 -Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00 -Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00 -Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00 -MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00 -Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00 -Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00 -Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00 -Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 tooth inner ring $85.00 -Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00 -Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found the second dust cap). -Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never used, $95.00 -Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on shell, $75.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion $38.00 - CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00 -BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, and misc. mounting parts $75.00 -Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at Rivendell $375.00. -Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four -Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00 - Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp $45.00 for both - Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00 -Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, $28.00 -Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, $35.00 -Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just decided to go with Hetres, $80.00 -Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c. $325.00 - Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. Link to Pictures below https://plus.google.com/photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201#photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
It's clearly a soma bike, designed by riv/grant—so soma decides the branding, etc. This is a bike we were commissioned to design for Soma Fabrications of San Francisco, for distribution to its many dealers. We’re friends with the SOMA people, and they wanted a Rivendell-designed bike. As part of the agreement, we were (not surprisingly) allowed to sell them, too. This deal benefits riv, soma, and the buyer. Soma has a bike they can market as designed by riv/grant, yet control production and sell though their dealer network. Riv/grant get to expand their influence/message/market by making a riv-like bike available to folks who might not otherwise know about riv or now consider buying one because it's cheaper. Could lead to new customers in parts, upgrades to riv bikes, etc. The buyer can get a less pretty (somewhat subjective, I suppose), riv-approved, riv clone at a cheaper price. And unlike a riv, one find discounted deals on new frames/bikes on the web. Win, win, win. As for the head badge, I doubt anyone would care if you swap it to riv but riv wouldn't do it as it's not part of the original agreement. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for modern geometry race bike only riders who later went to Rivendells.
Moving my seat forward a bit cleared up my lower back troubles, FWIW. Slamming a saddle all the way back on a setback post only works if the seat tube angle is too steep for you, really, and/or if you're using a B-17. Many seat/bike combos don't require one to go to that extreme... On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I'd second the micro-adjustments approach, and maybe try slight changes to your seat-angle (if you haven't already), since it's your lower back that is hurting. Obviously this is just a WAG, since it could be any number of things and how the hell would i know, but I'm just saying that's what I would try.Sometimes a smidgen of a degree this way or that can make a huge difference. Anyway good luck and hope you find something that works. Matt On Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:02:15 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Wanted your thoughts and experience on this issue I have been having with my Riv's. I know this sounds rediculous, but: *I am wondering if you had any trouble adapting from race geometry fit bikes you were used to riding, to the more upright-like rivendell bikes and how you got through it.* Here is what I mean: I started on a race geometry bike and rode it for 3.5 years. I was only about 1.5cm below saddle height with the drop bars. So it was nothing extreme. Always comfy, but wished I could sit more upright for better view sometimes. I wanted to sit higher, have more stable wider tires, and fenderability. I like the traditional steel type frame looks and appointments, too. Now: Got a Bleriot last August, and a new Sam in Feb. 2013. They are great rides, and comfy during the rides, but since last September I pay for it later in the day with low back pain, etc, that can last into the next day. No matter what set up I try, I seem to have problems. Noodle drop versions of the bikes. I am puzzled by this really wierd and frustrating experience. Am I just getting old (44 now)? Medically I seem to be fine, and doc seems to think my back is fine. More upright is supposed to be better for the back and neck. Maybe sitting bolt upright, or sitting low is good for the back, but anything between 40-80 degrees isn't for some? *I can only imagine that my problem is that, for whatever reason, my body just doesn't like to sit upright.* Seems like anything above saddle height for the bars causes pain. But I am happy to have the wider tires and fenderability features. Now if I could just dial in the fit. I guess I will try to replicate my race fit onto the Rivs and see how it goes. Any thoughts, experiences? Just losing my sanity? ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
I've tried quite a few options but the best I've found is Fizik brand gel pads. It's just the right density, not too firm, not too squishy, it's trim-able to customize fit, and removable for re-use. If you want to add some cush to your bars, I think this is the stuff to use. Steve On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:42:46 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see are super chunky. Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape. Thanks for any tips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?
Tange Levin HS - cheapy but so good. Never needs adjustment, in my experience. Will get a silver CK if the Tange ever wears out. Have a Phil BB but a Shimano UN-5x is currently filling the role with no problems. The Phil will see use again when the Shimano wears out. I used to downhill on a 8 suspension travel bike. While my transition to Rivs has mellowed me, I still like to go fast down swoopy, rutted, and water-barred trails and fire/logging roads. These well-made overbuilt parts haven't let me down yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
Nothing! Bare-barred and liking it. The bars are on an '87 Bridgestone T700. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:35:54 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote: I've tried quite a few options but the best I've found is Fizik brand gel pads. It's just the right density, not too firm, not too squishy, it's trim-able to customize fit, and removable for re-use. If you want to add some cush to your bars, I think this is the stuff to use. Steve On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:42:46 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see are super chunky. Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape. Thanks for any tips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
I'm not quite so hardy, but I agree that if your bar is well set up (and appropriate to your physiology) it needs little padding. That said, we used to use Spenco (tm) shoe inserts, cut and shaped as needed, at pressure points. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:28 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote: Nothing! Bare-barred and liking it. The bars are on an '87 Bridgestone T700. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:35:54 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote: I've tried quite a few options but the best I've found is Fizik brand gel pads. It's just the right density, not too firm, not too squishy, it's trim-able to customize fit, and removable for re-use. If you want to add some cush to your bars, I think this is the stuff to use. Steve On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:42:46 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see are super chunky. Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape. Thanks for any tips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
I was in the same boat but popped for the Roadeo. I sold a bunch of other stuff I had laying around taking up space on ebay and the like so I could get the frame. Now I am doing the same thing to get parts to build up the Roadeo. I was looking at the San Marcos too and almost decided to buy that, it looks like a great frameset and I am sure it would make a very good bike. I had a long internal conversation with myself and decided that the Roadeo was the bike I really wanted and in the end I don't think I would be totally happy going that route. I have lusted after a roadeo in orange for years now and just couldn't convince myself that saving that amount and getting something different was going to make me happy. The end result is that I have the frame I really want and less clutter in the house. People who have the San Marcos really seem to like it though. I don't think the fact that the bike not saying rivendell on it is a problem though. Once you are riding it, you aren't looking at the headbadge anyway and the ride is going to give you a smile either way. There are some differences between it and the Roadeo though, especially in my size. It was a choice between 650b wheels on the SM vs 700 for the Roadeo, top tube sloping differences, fork curve/look, contrasting headtube ect. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:44:32 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote: I considered a Sam. I agree that it is much more handsome than the Marcos. But it is a little heavier than what I'm looking for. I already have (non-Riv) bike that fits the cargo and loaded touring bill. I'm looking for something with more zip, but short of a racing bike. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:25:12 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Just get a Sam. There is only a 325$ difference between them for the frames. If you are gonna get a Riv-build, they are still only about 325 different total for the complete bikes. Problem solved. You can get a Riv for the same price basically. The Sam has a much prettier curve to the fork, and better paint job too. More eyelets, etc. Definitely worht waiting to save up 325 more bucks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for modern geometry race bike only riders who later went to Rivendells.
It depends on the rider. I slam my saddles (original Flites) all the way back on high setback posts (older Dura Ace) on bikes with 73* seat angles because I really should have listened to Grant and gone 72 or 72.5! My back is more comfortable with a way-back saddle, not to mention more pedaling power. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: Slamming a saddle all the way back on a setback post only works if the seat tube angle is too steep for you, really, and/or if you're using a B-17. Many seat/bike combos don't require one to go to that extreme... -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
Stating the obvious here , it's a Soma Brand frame, not a Rivendell ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?
Here is one reason to go Phil: http://philwood.com/products/bbpages/midcupguards.php Swell looking bb mud guard cups available is silver and several other colors. Of course if they work with less expensive bbs then no reason to go all Phil. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 56cm Waterford RSE-22 Frame/Fork
Hello all, Apologies to those of you who also read i-BOB, but I thought this might also interest the RBWers who don't: 2001 Waterford RSE-22 frame/fork and headset for sale 56cm c-t-c seat tube 56.5cm c-t-c top tube 22 series frame/fork, fully lugged Built for 700c wheels and cantilever brakes Henry James semi-horizontal dropouts 2 pairs of eyelets - front/rear 1 pair of seatstay braze-ons for a rack rear fender mounts via threaded seat and chainstay bridges front fender mounts through fork crown 135mm rear spacing Includes: 1 threaded Chris King 2Nut headset and XTR m900 cantilever brakes (needs new pads) *I also have some scuffed up black SKS fenders that were previously measured, cut, and installed on this frame. Though no longer installed, I can include them as well, if needed. Waterford Road Sport Extended Geometry - I've been told that extended just means it's an RS-22 that accepts cantilevers for greater tire clearance, but have seen at least one other RSE that used sidepulls. It's definitely not a touring frame, but more like a high-end RB-T(riple), or maybe a less fancy, slightly lighter and steeper, canti'd Rambouillet? I'm not 100% sure about the tubing, but I believe it's either all Reynolds 853 OS or a mix of 853 OS and something else they build with. Either way, it's fairly light and stiff. Exact geo/tubing spec is available from W'ford w/ serial number, I've just never really needed to know as a 2nd owner. The frame was great for commuting, errands and day-rides for the better part of two years in Chicago. Prior to that it spent most of its life unridden. The paint has seen better days and there is some surface rust here and there, but no cracks, dents or other structural issues. The dropouts have just been professionally aligned and the frame was looked over for general soundness and given the a-ok by my local shop, though they recommend thread alignment and facing for the bb shell - buyer's choice. The ride is great, but I could never quite get comfortable enough, as it's too small. If it fit better, I'd probably just powder coat and keep it, but my latest frame is more my size. A similar 22 series frame/fork from Waterford is around $2.5k these days. At this price, you could send the frame to Wisconsin for restoration and still have plenty leftover to put some decent parts on it. Add it up here: http://waterfordbikes.com/w/ordering/price-list/ $650 + shipping from Chicago and we can save if I ship to your local bike shop. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bvvg/sets/72157633401083164/ Thanks for looking, Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr
Jim, That is interesting. Maybe something about posting our images in a well-viewed group adds to the chances of the Flickr algorithm grabbing it? I also notice that your view statistics are about same as mine. Nice lookin' bomb-proof Hung. Cheers, Will On May 1, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Great looking photo! I think yours is far higher quality than this one of mine that made it onto Explore: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/4689448618/ I like to think someone at Flickr likes Riv's or reinforced main triangles. jim m wc ca On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:27:13 AM UTC-7, Will M wrote: Hi all. This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore). Why this image? I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group (a big fan of sferranti's postings). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/w5keXVltP3k/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr
Hugh, Thanks for the kind words -- and I agree with your comments about film. I urge you to try film again. It has reawakened the joy in photography for me. Cheers, Will On May 1, 2013, at 12:42 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Will, Congratulations it's a wonderful image and transcends the bicycle, I think in large part because of the mood it embodies. I think organic film and it's controls are magical in a different sort of way to the magic of Digital photography. It makes me want to shoot on film again. Hugh On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:27:13 AM UTC-7, Will M wrote: Hi all. This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore). Why this image? I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group (a big fan of sferranti's postings). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/w5keXVltP3k/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)
Awesome trip photos, jealous of the family time in the great outdoors. You are blessed. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Great photos! Thanks for sharing. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, Scot Brooks wrote: Looks like a nice outing, Patrick. I'm digging the pullovers or anoraks or whatever those are that the wee ones are wearing, totally stylish adventurer look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr
Thank you for the kind words. Actually, no, Flickr did not notify. I happened to notice that the view statistics were increasing at a rate of 60/hour which is unheard of for me, so I started Googling around. At first I noticed our fearless leader Mr. Cyclofiend posted the image on tumblr -- and wondered if it was possible that he had that many followers -- then saw the image in Explore. On May 1, 2013, at 8:30 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Your entire photo stream is pretty impressive! It doesnt surprise me in the slightest one of your images became popular. I am curious though...does flickr notify you in some way that a photo has been chosen and posted in popular or explore? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/w5keXVltP3k/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] hubs
Peter: received the hubs; many thanks. What is your paypal address so I can reimburse the shipping? PAM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: hubs
Sorry: damn this interface. Wish it had a reply and reply all option. Peter: needless to say, please reply offlist. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:16 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Peter: received the hubs; many thanks. What is your paypal address so I can reimburse the shipping? PAM -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling computers
...Did try a wireless for a bit, but there are too many areas where I ride that have interference with the sensor Yeah, I don't use them for that reason as well. But I do kind of miss the (false) triple digit maximum speeds though! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?
The oooh shiny gene is not restricted to males:) On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:07:03 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: Things have a way of snowballing. The headset in my AR had been feeling ratchety for a while and then the bottom bracket started giving me the grit so I decided to give in and tear it down for some TLC. The good ol shimano UN53 had pooped out after countless miles serving umpteen bikes and the headset cup was notched as I expected. Since I had the frame all torn down I decided to send it off for a makeover while I pondered the replacement parts. My initial thought was to add a little chi-chi and spring for a Phil BB and a King headset. These are often the exemplary put them in and forget about it items, though they will make an initial dent (cavern) in the wallet. On the bottom bracket, I have not quite mentally committed to the Phil since a UN53 is less than a 4 pack of Duvel and will last 10 years like the last onebut for something that is completely hidden from view that Phil sure does have some allure! I suppose it's fair to include the weight savings and MUSA in the price all things considered. I was pretty settled on the King headset, but then decided to dig around in my parts bin thinking I had some 1 sets floating around. I knew I had a bunch of random HS parts, but wasnt sure if any were complete till I found this! A basically NOS Dura Ace HP-7400http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8695512917/in/photostream/lightbox/ . OK so now I have perfectly usable and honestly period correct HS I could use on the AR, but it will obviously need more attention than a modern sealed setup. I have to admit I'm a bit lazy when it comes to routine caged bearing maintenance and I never avoid getting the bike sloppy. I'm curious what you guys think on the matter of old school caged bearings vs sealed, and boat anchor shimano BB's. And also, for those who have gone the full monty with a phil TI spindle...do you have any creaking issues? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
It's always nice to see people trying to innovate, but I doubt Jim Thill, Peter White, or Rich Lesnik will be too worried about this. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1205277475/loopwheels-for-a-smoother-more-comfortable-bicycle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cycling computers
if you don't mind the wires, the Cateye Cadence is cheap https://www.google.com/shopping/product/10893613039136828338?q=cateye+cadencerlz=1C1PRFA_enUS414US414oq=cateye+cadenceaqs=chrome.0.57j0l3j62.2705j0sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8sa=Xei=o4eCUavhM6qB0QHxMwved=0CKEBELkk It's what I have on my daughter's bike, and it has really helped with her spin. There is also only one battery to keep up with On Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:13:52 PM UTC-5, john wrote: Hi all. Thought I'd ask all of you who use computers for recomendations. I've been on the fence about using a computer to track mileage for some time now, but I believe I'd like to try. The criteria: 1. It has to be very simple to operate and easy to read. 2. I don't need or want heart rate monitor or anything like altitude or anything complicated. 3. I'm just interested in tracking mileage (how far was my ride today? I seldom know - which is not always a bad thing, but I get curious). 4. I don't want to spend a lot of money. I'm thinking I can do this for $30 or so? Thanks. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)
It's more than a matter of feeling the nuances of traction, if you haven't got any. I recall a time where I was trying to ride my Atlantis down a steep, sandy fire road. I had to crash the bike to stop; traction was just absent. But I'm guessing that softness and width of tires, as well as lugs, make a difference; I was riding 32 mm tires, and now that I think about it, they probably had way too much air in them. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I never went fast and kept it very slow in the steep parts. It's simply a matter of feeling the nuances of the traction through the bike, something I imagine riding barefoot helps with. Tires are Schwalbe Duremes, so not super aggressive (by mountain bike standards), but they have some decent lugs on them. Weight on the bike helps too. The parts I walked down, and watching my kids walk theirs down, the bikes were definitely sliding a lot. Weight of the rider really helped. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: gear cog combo change ???
Charlie: ...appears to shift fine. You have your verdict. This stuff isn't quite as fiddly as the manufacturers would like us to think. On a recent visit to Harris' website, I notice they list 11, 12, 13, 14 tooth smallest cogs, suitable for either 8 or 9 speed. Funny little note at the bottom said ...11 12 tooth cogs are discounted due to an over-supply. dougP On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:41:13 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: - Just installed a HG 11-30 eight speed but used a HG 7 12 tooth cog and nut in place of the tiny 11 tooth cog...any problems from doing this? I run 44x34x24 chain rings and wanted a one tooth jump to my top gear. I test rode it briefly and it appears to shift fine. School me yo!.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
The whole thing looks a bit loopy. dougP On Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:34:31 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: It's always nice to see people trying to innovate, but I doubt Jim Thill, Peter White, or Rich Lesnik will be too worried about this. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1205277475/loopwheels-for-a-smoother-more-comfortable-bicycle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
As I understand it, this isn't the first time that GP has designed a bike for another maker concurrently with Riv and then marketed them through Riv as well, the other most obvious examples being the Herons, dating from around the turn of the century. My wife recently bought one of these frames used, and as far as I can tell, it doesn't make any mention of being designed by GP anywhere on it. Furthermore, it has completely different lugs and geo (no gentle TT slope, less pronounced headtube extension). But still, sitting next to my Quickbeam, it's pretty easy to see the family resemblance! The San Marcos even uses some/all of the Riv lugs, doesn't it? Another thing is, if you get a bike from Riv, you're not just getting the frame design, you're getting a bike sized by them and built up using their preferred parts, which ends up being pretty distinctive. To people in the know, even if it doesn't say Rivendell anywhere on it, it's pretty easy to see where it came from. Check out the Soma Fab blog and flickr stream, you'll see plenty of San Marcos' built up by other shops, and with a lot of them it's pretty clear they didn't come from Riv. Sized much smaller (bars well below seat in current roadie fashion), much different component spec with brifters, short reach handlebars, etc. Plus I really like the existing San Marcos headbadge. Having seen it it person, it looks amazing! On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I digress. As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves with all parts purchased from Rivendell? Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever). I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one. J Of course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for modern geometry race bike only riders who later went to Rivendells.
The whole idea of where your saddle should be is both overlooked and reasonably important. It helps to have an idea of your personal dimensions - especially if your femur is long relative to your tibia. But it comes back to hip angle, addressed very well in this article - The Myth of KOPS by Keith Bontrager - http://sheldonbrown.com/kops.html - Jim Jim Edgar / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: hubs
It does have a Reply to author option under the More Message Options arrow. But, if you are accessing via email. not so much. - J / list admining -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv's Design Shines Through in Hill Climb/Walk
You can be sure GP considered this activity profile in his designs. A while back (2006-ish?) there was a Reader article about the joys of walking/running with your bike, with some comments on technique. Maybe somebody will post a scan (I have it somewhere, but no scanner). I remember the picture caption (of GP running with his Quickbeam, in a Deerstalker!) was a wonderfully alliterative sentence, something like One should fit the form of the famed FTD florist, but few in fact will achieve that. I've been walking the QB a lot recently, up steep hills on long rides, and it pushes with the best of them. My only complaint is that my ACS freewheel is so freakin' noisy! It really disturbs the peace of walking On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:10:30 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: We have 4 bigger bikes: 1 Hunqapillar, 2 old Treks, one Jamis, all Riv'd up. I've wondered when I've very briefly test risen the non-rib bikes which differences were size being too small vs. inherent design/geometry. We just got back from a grand few days in Eastern Colorado mini-canyon country. Camping not he rim, the trail dropped down 250 vertical feet at 20-25% grade (yes, I measured it). I was able to ride down most of it. On our full day there we got all the bikes down to the canyon floor, rode the canyon, and then I got to haul all of the bikes back up this grand steep trail. Pushing the bikes by their handlebars as my only contact eliminated the geometry of seat and pedals and I got a very direct comparison of the responsiveness and feel of the bikes. The Hunqapillar simply went smooth, agile, quick, willing. All the other bikes were sluggish, dull, less responsive or too responsive. No doubt size difference was still a factor, but the difference was striking. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
Thanks. It is kind of embarassing. I did not realize how many unused parts I had until I started to go through them all. I guess my wife was right all along! -Matt On Thursday, May 2, 2013 1:19:48 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Wow! Thats 'a list of parts well done. Hugh On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:43:06 PM UTC-7, Matt Gilkey wrote: OK, here we go again.. Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires. I like those too. So in an attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off list at *mg...@hotmail.com*. Thanks for looking. -Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00 -Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp area $40.00 -Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not included, $80.00 -Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions well $25.00 -Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00 -Velo Orange front rack, $45.00 -Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00 -Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00 -Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00 -MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00 -Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00 -Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00 -Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00 -Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 tooth inner ring $85.00 -Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00 -Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found the second dust cap). -Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never used, $95.00 -Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on shell, $75.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion $38.00 - CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00 -BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, and misc. mounting parts $75.00 -Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at Rivendell $375.00. -Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four -Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00 - Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp $45.00 for both - Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00 -Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, $28.00 -Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, $35.00 -Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just decided to go with Hetres, $80.00 -Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c. $325.00 - Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. Link to Pictures below https://plus.google.com/photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201#photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)
Absolutely, Anne. Once we pass the traction threshold, nuances of feeling traction are moot. What I was trying to say is I go slow and use the nuances of traction feel to know if/when I am nearing the threshold, then slow down while brakes still work -- a strategy that does not work if above the threshold to begin with. If slowing down means walking it down, then that's how I go slower. Grin. I agree with you that tire width and pressure play a big role. There was one very steep hill in the bottom on the canyon that was no issue to descend (no big rocks or technical aspect to it) that was challenging to climb up. Lots of rear tire spin. However, it was much easier to climb when I had my 3-year-old on the back rack adding weight to my rear tire while standing. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:39:41 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: It's more than a matter of feeling the nuances of traction, if you haven't got any. I recall a time where I was trying to ride my Atlantis down a steep, sandy fire road. I had to crash the bike to stop; traction was just absent. But I'm guessing that softness and width of tires, as well as lugs, make a difference; I was riding 32 mm tires, and now that I think about it, they probably had way too much air in them. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I never went fast and kept it very slow in the steep parts. It's simply a matter of feeling the nuances of the traction through the bike, something I imagine riding barefoot helps with. Tires are Schwalbe Duremes, so not super aggressive (by mountain bike standards), but they have some decent lugs on them. Weight on the bike helps too. The parts I walked down, and watching my kids walk theirs down, the bikes were definitely sliding a lot. Weight of the rider really helped. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report: 3 Days in Purgatory (Canyon)
Thanks to members of this list, Grant and Andy especially, who have helped us get our family bikes set up, we now have the ability to ride as a family of six on 4 bikes. Riding as a family is an incredible joy and this trip has been on our list for a while. The bikes make it possible and joyous to travel a lot more miles together. An unexpected side benefit of this is our 3-year-old has greatly improved on her balance bike from experiencing the feel of balance on the back of her Mom's bike. I imagine she'll be onto her own pedaled bike much faster as a result. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:15:29 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Awesome trip photos, jealous of the family time in the great outdoors. You are blessed. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM, René Sterental orth...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Great photos! Thanks for sharing. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, Scot Brooks wrote: Looks like a nice outing, Patrick. I'm digging the pullovers or anoraks or whatever those are that the wee ones are wearing, totally stylish adventurer look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr
It's a really good picture. And film! Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:27:13 AM UTC-7, Will M wrote: Hi all. This is interesting. I was having fun quietly shooting my Rambouillet (with my grandfather's circa-1950 Leica lenses and supersaturated Fuji Velvia color slide film), and posting the images to the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr pool for y'all to see. Then for whatever reason Flickr selected one (http://flic.kr/p/ef3nDF) among the top 500 images uploaded on April 29, 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/explore). Why this image? I've seen better photography in the Rivendell Bicycles Flickr group (a big fan of sferranti's postings). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr
Oh, that's cool. I had no idea that two of my pictures were Exploredhttp://bighugelabs.com/scout.php?username=biketinkersort=dateyear=0. Definitely explains the popularity of the beer Quickbeam picture. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:59:07 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Scout is the way to find out: http://bighugelabs.com/scout.php Just enter your flickr id and see what's happenin. * * Cheers, David On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com javascript: wrote: I don’t think so. I had a Mystery Bike pic chosen for Explore and I only found out because there was a sudden flood of comments and faves, and one of them congratulated me on Explore. ** ** *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *jinxed *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:30 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr ** ** Your entire photo stream is pretty impressive! It doesnt surprise me in the slightest one of your images became popular. I am curious though...does flickr notify you in some way that a photo has been chosen and posted in popular or explore? ** ** ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: hubs
And that's weird because the iBob list at least has a reply to all function on the email version. I've never been to the group page on either list. Scott On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: It does have a Reply to author option under the More Message Options arrow. But, if you are accessing via email. not so much. - J / list admining -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
Something that I don't think has been mentioned is liability. If Rivendell isn't sourcing these, isn't making much money per unit and a lot of these are being sold ( I assume more are sold than a normal Riv because of the widespread reach of Merry Sales compared to Riv) then it makes more sense for Rivendell to allow Soma to be on the downtube and take ownership of all liability. When you put your name on something, you accept liability should something happen, it doesn't always make sense to do that. Zoom in on the photo here, this years ago: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Reader-Issue-Number-10-/170949581543?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27cd639ae7 Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
Always interesting to see outside the box cycling innovations, usually, I think, from people who don't have much knowledge or experience with bicycles as they are now. We've had one inventive customer, who for several years has been trying to develop a new kind of human powered vehicle. Knowing little about bicycles, he frequently goes to great lengths with machine shops and such trying to solve problems that have been solved in the bicycle world for many decades. Numerous times he's come in to the shop to ask our opinion on some elaborate contraption he's assembled at great effort and expense...only to be dismayed as we dig in the parts box and pull out an inexpensive, widely available, and relatively elegant component that serves the same purpose. He's a great character, but I think he'd have saved a lot of money and time if he'd started by working a couple summers in bike shops. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:34:31 AM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: It's always nice to see people trying to innovate, but I doubt Jim Thill, Peter White, or Rich Lesnik will be too worried about this. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1205277475/loopwheels-for-a-smoother-more-comfortable-bicycle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
On Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:31:47 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I'm not quite so hardy, but I agree that if your bar is well set up (and appropriate to your physiology) it needs little padding. That said, we used to use Spenco (tm) shoe inserts, cut and shaped as needed, at pressure points. Okay, I've been running m'tache bars on my Bomba.For short jaunts w/ the kids, I love 'em. Local bike bath, mixed paveemtn and gravel trail, they're great. Trails in the woods, I like. Thing is, when I cross 20-mi on a ride, I start to have a bit of hand numbness. Yesterday, I rode 15 mi from Abingdon to Damascus, was fine on the way; ate lunch; then rode back. But the time I wrapped up the 30 mi round trip, I had noticable hand numbness. Need to think on it some more. Maybe higher, maybe a different angle... I like the way it is now, but only under 20 miles a day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
things that don't need reinventing: fly fishing, bicycle, brooks saddle On Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:57:39 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Always interesting to see outside the box cycling innovations, usually, I think, from people who don't have much knowledge or experience with bicycles as they are now. We've had one inventive customer, who for several years has been trying to develop a new kind of human powered vehicle. Knowing little about bicycles, he frequently goes to great lengths with machine shops and such trying to solve problems that have been solved in the bicycle world for many decades. Numerous times he's come in to the shop to ask our opinion on some elaborate contraption he's assembled at great effort and expense...only to be dismayed as we dig in the parts box and pull out an inexpensive, widely available, and relatively elegant component that serves the same purpose. He's a great character, but I think he'd have saved a lot of money and time if he'd started by working a couple summers in bike shops. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:34:31 AM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: It's always nice to see people trying to innovate, but I doubt Jim Thill, Peter White, or Rich Lesnik will be too worried about this. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1205277475/loopwheels-for-a-smoother-more-comfortable-bicycle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Headsets and bottom brackets, sexy reliable vs. cheap reliable what's your take?
I think my Phil BB on my Sweetpea needs those mud cup guards in green... Ohhh shiny! That said, my Riv Bleriot had a Shimano UN-53 BB which lasted just over 10k miles. Mechanic Mark said it was crunchy and replaced it with another Shimano BB. The headseat was a Shimano Ultegra a friend gave me when I built it up in winter 2007, which lasted until Jan 3 2013, when I was struck by a car. When the Bleriot returns from repair (in paint. Impatiently waiting...), it will get a VO headset. I've got one on the Sweetpea, which also now has over 10k miles, so I know it will last. Both these bikes are ridden in all conditions year round up here in the Pacific Northwet. On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:07:03 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Things have a way of snowballing. The headset in my AR had been feeling ratchety for a while and then the bottom bracket started giving me the grit so I decided to give in and tear it down for some TLC. The good ol shimano UN53 had pooped out after countless miles serving umpteen bikes and the headset cup was notched as I expected. Since I had the frame all torn down I decided to send it off for a makeover while I pondered the replacement parts. My initial thought was to add a little chi-chi and spring for a Phil BB and a King headset. These are often the exemplary put them in and forget about it items, though they will make an initial dent (cavern) in the wallet. On the bottom bracket, I have not quite mentally committed to the Phil since a UN53 is less than a 4 pack of Duvel and will last 10 years like the last onebut for something that is completely hidden from view that Phil sure does have some allure! I suppose it's fair to include the weight savings and MUSA in the price all things considered. I was pretty settled on the King headset, but then decided to dig around in my parts bin thinking I had some 1 sets floating around. I knew I had a bunch of random HS parts, but wasnt sure if any were complete till I found this! A basically NOS Dura Ace HP-7400http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8695512917/in/photostream/lightbox/ . OK so now I have perfectly usable and honestly period correct HS I could use on the AR, but it will obviously need more attention than a modern sealed setup. I have to admit I'm a bit lazy when it comes to routine caged bearing maintenance and I never avoid getting the bike sloppy. I'm curious what you guys think on the matter of old school caged bearings vs sealed, and boat anchor shimano BB's. And also, for those who have gone the full monty with a phil TI spindle...do you have any creaking issues? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
I cannot help but laugh at the sentence: *So you don’t need to rely on fat (and sluggish) tyres to cushion your ride.* Obviously, the inventor isn't aware of recent research – in part by *Bicycle Quarterly* – that has shown that wider tires don't roll any slower than narrow ones. Hence even professional racers adopting wider tires at lower pressures. Generally, classic bicycles really are highly evolved and very complex, interdependent machines. You cannot change just one parameter (say a tubing diameter) without affecting everything else. The biomechanic interactions of rider and bike are not yet well-understood, and the traditional solutions evolved through trial and error, which is hard to beat for systems you only partially understand. Even the best modern carbon and ti bikes have a balance of the frame tube stiffness and feel that is very similar to a classic steel bike. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
Don't worry Matt; you're not alone. There are probably more of us like you than we care to admit! (My name is Andrew, and I have a problem...) cheers, Andrew (who needs - and truly wants - to post a similar list of parts for sale...one of these days...) From: Matt Gilkey mgilke...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 9:10:57 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more Thanks. It is kind of embarassing. I did not realize how many unused parts I had until I started to go through them all. I guess my wife was right all along! -Matt On Thursday, May 2, 2013 1:19:48 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Wow! Thats 'a list of parts well done. Hugh On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:43:06 PM UTC-7, Matt Gilkey wrote: OK, here we go again.. Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires. I like those too. So in an attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off list at mg...@hotmail.com. Thanks for looking. -Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00 -Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp area $40.00 -Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not included, $80.00 -Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions well $25.00 -Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00 -Velo Orange front rack, $45.00 -Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00 -Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00 -Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00 -MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00 -Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00 -Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00 -Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00 -Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 tooth inner ring $85.00 -Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00 -Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found the second dust cap). -Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never used, $95.00 -Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on shell, $75.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion $38.00 -CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00 -BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, and misc. mounting parts $75.00 -Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at Rivendell $375.00. -Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four -Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00 - Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp $45.00 for both - Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00 -Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, $28.00 -Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, $35.00 -Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just decided to go with Hetres, $80.00 -Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c. $325.00 -Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. Link to Pictures below https://plus.google.com/ photos/116766706625339314401/ albums/5873072009263809201# photos/116766706625339314401/ albums/5873072009263809201 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
On 5/2/13, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote: Something that I don't think has been mentioned is liability. If Rivendell isn't sourcing these, isn't making much money per unit and a lot of these are being sold ( I assume more are sold than a normal Riv because of the widespread reach of Merry Sales compared to Riv) then it makes more sense for Rivendell to allow Soma to be on the downtube and take ownership of all liability. When you put your name on something, you accept liability should something happen, it doesn't always make sense to do that. Zoom in on the photo here, this years ago: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Reader-Issue-Number-10-/170949581543?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27cd639ae7 Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:41:04 PM UTC-7, Tonester wrote: I feel you on this, I drove a Porsche 914 for years and got a lot of crap from the Porsche crowds. (914 was sold everywhere else as a VW). Haha, now if you had a 914-6, you could have avoided alot of grief :) Btw, a buddy had a 914 2.0 and it was a hoot to drive. Despite being underpowered, it handled really well and could keep up with most cars of its time. My '82 Stumpjumper has a Designed by Tim Neenon on the chainstay which I think is uber-cool. Agree, I recently picked up a 90s litespeed classic for cheap - $425 including serotta ti headsup adapter! What's great is that all the decals have been removed saved a small one on the left/non-drive chainstay which is the signature of W. David Lynskey! The signature just makes the bike look cool! It also doesn't hurt that the frame has the classic european geometry so the bike handles really well! Good Luck! That said, with the bike built up those who care about these things would know that facts already, and those that don't care - well, don't care. Pearls before swine, I say. Proud of my Atlantis with the little by rivendell decals. Tony On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:29:41 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: What's the motiviation in this case? Is this a case of buying a Camaro but wanting a Firebird? I've seen some people complain that the model specific bikes don't have enough Rivendell badging either. The Roadeo doesn't have an RBW badge either! I think R`BW have been pretty consistent that only the customs get full RBW badging. On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:17:25 PM UTC-4, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I digress. As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves with all parts purchased from Rivendell? Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever). I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one. J Of course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
What are the wheels? 700's, 650, 26 ?? On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:43:06 AM UTC-5, Matt Gilkey wrote: OK, here we go again.. Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires. I like those too. So in an attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off list at *mg...@hotmail.com* javascript:. Thanks for looking. -Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00 -Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp area $40.00 -Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not included, $80.00 -Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions well $25.00 -Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00 -Velo Orange front rack, $45.00 -Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00 -Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00 -Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00 -MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00 -Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00 -Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00 -Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00 -Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 tooth inner ring $85.00 -Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00 -Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found the second dust cap). -Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never used, $95.00 -Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on shell, $75.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion $38.00 - CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00 -BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, and misc. mounting parts $75.00 -Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at Rivendell $375.00. -Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four -Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00 - Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp $45.00 for both - Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00 -Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, $28.00 -Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, $35.00 -Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just decided to go with Hetres, $80.00 -Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c. $325.00 - Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. Link to Pictures below https://plus.google.com/photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201#photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
The best way to know would be to call Rivendell and ask them what it's gonna be on the new frames. They could say for sure. Rivendell emailed me the blueprint in February, 2013 to help me know the actual length of the tube before buying - not virtual length. So I guess it is current to the 52 Sam. Tthe geo chart may not be able to give you the exact info you are looking for - not that I could understand how all the angles influence each other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
I like the moustache bars. Very casual feeling bar. Makes for fantastic braking and bar end shifting. Puts the levers right there. Nice. But the outside half of my paws hurt after a few miles. Seems like from bar ends to the brake hoods, that part of my hand is the main contact on the bar. So always pressure there. I tried some 4.5mm BG Bar Phat which helps, but still get some pain. BTW, the Bar Phat jelly strips cover perfectly cover the bars completely. Fits just right. They are made for drop bars, but fit the curves of the stache perfectly. I use the J shape part of the jelly for the bar end through hooks. The straight piece for the tops to the brake hood. I cannot ride upright, so bars need to be at or below saddle height. The reach feels great and is 4cm closer than Noodle drops both for Noodle brake hoods and bar ends/tops. But the paws do get tender. I might try some tilt variations. Anyway, just a fun experiment to try staches for the first time. I'll live with them for a while and then go back to Noodles or Albas if the staches don't do the trick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cycling computers
I spend too much of my life looking at a screen. I really don't want to see one when I'm on my bike! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
I like the moustache bars. Very casual feeling bar. Makes for fantastic braking and bar end shifting. Puts the levers right there. Nice. But the outside half of my paws hurt after a few miles. Seems like from bar ends to the brake hoods, that part of my hand is the main contact on the bar. So always pressure there. Bars need to be at or below saddle height. My back complains if higher than saddle for bars (haven't tried bolt upright though).The reach feels great and is 4cm closer than my Noodles were - both at hoods and bar ends. But the paws do get tender. I might try some tilt variations. Anyway, just a fun experiment to try staches for the first time. I'll live with them for a while and then go back to Noodles or try some Albas if the 'staches don't do the trick. I tried some 4.5mm BG Bar Phat which helps, but still get some pain. BTW, the Bar Phat jelly strips cover perfectly cover the bars completely. Fits just right. They are made for drop bars, but fit the curves of the stache perfectly. I use the J shape part of the jelly for the bar end through hooks. The straight piece for the tops to the brake hood. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
I like them, too. I'm hooked on Noodles because of all the available hand positions, but the immediate brake access on the m-bars can't be beat for a hectic commute. I originally bought them for commuting in cold weather. You can wear big mittens on them and still negotiate the brakes levers - something that's too clumsy for drop bars. I have a pair sitting bike-less in my garage. One of these days, I'll give them another try. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riding without a computer
The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I don't use a cycle computer except on my kid-crank tandem. And that's mostly to entertain the kids, and also to impress me with how many miles those little buggers can pedal. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:23:24 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto R-14 Top Rack $120, shipping included!
I mounted this rear rack and used it once and decided that I only need a front rack and bag. It could be mounted on the front if needed. $120, with shipping included for the continental US (save a little). Originally purchased from Riv, includes four P clamps and hardware. Looks brand new. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr
Adding beer to any bicycle picture tends to exponentially increase views! Big Huge Labs has a bunch of cool flickr stuff. Cheers, David On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, that's cool. I had no idea that two of my pictures were Exploredhttp://bighugelabs.com/scout.php?username=biketinkersort=dateyear=0. Definitely explains the popularity of the beer Quickbeam picture. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:59:07 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Scout is the way to find out: http://bighugelabs.com/scout.**phphttp://bighugelabs.com/scout.phpJust enter your flickr id and see what's happenin. * * Cheers, David On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com wrote: I don’t think so. I had a Mystery Bike pic chosen for Explore and I only found out because there was a sudden flood of comments and faves, and one of them congratulated me on Explore. ** ** *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@** googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *jinxed *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:30 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Riv on Flickr ** ** Your entire photo stream is pretty impressive! It doesnt surprise me in the slightest one of your images became popular. I am curious though...does flickr notify you in some way that a photo has been chosen and posted in popular or explore? ** ** ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I ditched 'em because I got tired of being reminded how slow I am on rides in which I had no reason to go faster (all of them). I miss the mileage feature, but I suppose I could get that on my smartypants phone if I ever bothered to figure out how. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 4:23:24 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
This thread is making me want Mark's BOM *really bad*. It duplicates my Bleriot almost down to the color, and I don't have the money! Grrr... On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: I’m looking at getting a San Marcos from Rivendell soon. Of course, I would REALLY prefer a Roadeo, if only I could find another $1,300. But I digress. As a big Rivendell fan, I have to say that the one annoying thing about the San Marcos is the lack of anything (other than the very small print on the chainstay) that mentions that it is a Rivendell. Well, we can’t do anything about the decals (they have clear-coat over them) but what about the headbadge? Couldn’t Riv put a Rivendell headbadge on the San Marcos for those frames purchased from Riv HQ and fully assembled by Rivendell elves with all parts purchased from Rivendell? Sounds petty, I know. But reading the web, I am not the only one with this petty hang-up. A Rivendell headbadge could be a big incentive for people to buy the San Marcos from Rivendell instead of Amazon (or wherever). I hear that a blow dryer will soften up the glue and allow the San Marcos headbadge to be easily removed and replaced with a Rivendell one. J Of course, I don’t know what the Riv contract with Soma might say about this. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I like computers just to log my miles. And it is fun to see what your time and average speed, etc. is for certain rides. I like temperature features too. But I bet it would be liberating in a certain way to ride without one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I got rid of mine.. I agree with you the fastest way to overdue it is to chase a number or someone else. Kelly On Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:23:24 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
@CJ Philip: How high are your bars? Angle? Just wondering. You must have hands of steel! Can you post a pic of your set up? Fun to see. On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:42:46 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see are super chunky. Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape. Thanks for any tips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil for self-defense
I think there was an RBW blug about a cyclist who knocked down/out an approaching assailant while still riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
For an urban utility/runaround bike with small diameter wheels, this strikes me as a very clever idea. I was waiting to discover that the tires were non-pneumatic, which might make the whole assembly even more attractive, as there would be no more flats. I wonder if the loops smooth things out enough to be used with solid tires. Making fun of this idea from the point of view of a cyclist who uses 700c-ish wheels is to miss the point, and the inventor seems to have a pretty good understanding and appreciation of how bicycles work. pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
Looks like the Rivy-hubbed wheels are 26 as per 559 label on the rims. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:41:18 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote: What are the wheels? 700's, 650, 26 ?? On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:43:06 AM UTC-5, Matt Gilkey wrote: OK, here we go again.. Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires. I like those too. So in an attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off list at *mg...@hotmail.com*. Thanks for looking. -Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00 -Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp area $40.00 -Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not included, $80.00 -Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions well $25.00 -Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00 -Velo Orange front rack, $45.00 -Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00 -Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00 -Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00 -MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00 -Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00 -Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00 -Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00 -Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 tooth inner ring $85.00 -Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00 -Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found the second dust cap). -Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never used, $95.00 -Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on shell, $75.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion $38.00 - CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00 -BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, and misc. mounting parts $75.00 -Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at Rivendell $375.00. -Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four -Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00 - Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp $45.00 for both - Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00 -Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, $28.00 -Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, $35.00 -Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just decided to go with Hetres, $80.00 -Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c. $325.00 - Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. Link to Pictures below https://plus.google.com/photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201#photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
Changing a tube is a 5 minute job, I doubt you could go to your lbs with a broken loop thing hahaha. Some ideas should stay just that. On May 2, 2013 8:55 PM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: For an urban utility/runaround bike with small diameter wheels, this strikes me as a very clever idea. I was waiting to discover that the tires were non-pneumatic, which might make the whole assembly even more attractive, as there would be no more flats. I wonder if the loops smooth things out enough to be used with solid tires. Making fun of this idea from the point of view of a cyclist who uses 700c-ish wheels is to miss the point, and the inventor seems to have a pretty good understanding and appreciation of how bicycles work. pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?
I must try my own advice. I have the same problem with the Midge bar: my left palm just won't be comfortable. I taped a 1 X 2 aluminum plate on the end of the left hook to give my palm more surface, but my hand still gets numb. Anyone want to trade for the Midge? I should have stuck with the 46 cm Noodle where I started. OTOH, the hoods on the Midge are wonderful On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:31:47 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I'm not quite so hardy, but I agree that if your bar is well set up (and appropriate to your physiology) it needs little padding. That said, we used to use Spenco (tm) shoe inserts, cut and shaped as needed, at pressure points. Okay, I've been running m'tache bars on my Bomba.For short jaunts w/ the kids, I love 'em. Local bike bath, mixed paveemtn and gravel trail, they're great. Trails in the woods, I like. Thing is, when I cross 20-mi on a ride, I start to have a bit of hand numbness. Yesterday, I rode 15 mi from Abingdon to Damascus, was fine on the way; ate lunch; then rode back. But the time I wrapped up the 30 mi round trip, I had noticable hand numbness. Need to think on it some more. Maybe higher, maybe a different angle... I like the way it is now, but only under 20 miles a day... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I've just switched from strava/cyclemete on iphone to a Garmin 305 and 800 (won one, the other a gift). 1 computer for all bikes, incl HR, altitude, and power if I want (I do). Pretty neat, and long batt life. Best Regards, R Zeidler Prime Mover On May 2, 2013, at 9:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
I think I'm going to turn one of my bikes into a fixie. My singlespeed folder has transformed my thoughts on shifting, and now I don't do much of it on my geared bikes. I honestly had no idea it was so easy to climb things without downshifting constantly. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:36:07 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
All I do not want/need/desire is *another* computer while on the sanctity of the bicycle !!! It is a time to open thine eyes,ears and all senses wide and far, enjoy the ride and forget about anything other than* where I Am * :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
Great point, Patrick. Thanks to input from this group and Grant, I've done much the same thing, though without riding a fixie. I was amazed on our recent trip by how easy it was to ride up the rollers without shifting. Of course, where I live, there aren't hills you can see the top of. That makes a big difference. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:36:07 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I gave up my computers, but I like to track my miles, so I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone. That said, the best way to learn to pace yourself according to terrain and conditions internal and external is to ride fixed gears exclusively for several years in a windy, rolling environment. It really did take me several years to adapt my attitude, but now it's second nature. Last night I rode 11 miles in a 70 gear that included 1 mile of steep climbing and 3 miles of gradual climbing against a strong headwind. I just pedaled slowly. The habit continues with gears; this evening, tired, I had a similar return on the sluggish Fargo. I just geared down and was surprised at how fresh I felt. Frankly, one of the great joys of riding fixed, for me, is precisely this habit of pacing yourself and adapting to the conditions, rather than trying to adapt the conditions by gearing. Of course, YMMV. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: The thread asking about computers got me thinking -- I bet there are others here who intentionally do not ride with a computer. I was curious your experiences. Here are mine… I ride without a computer. Why? Because I am too stupid to control the gadget rather than unwittingly allowing the gadget control me. For instance, rather than riding to effort, I found I rode to speed. It is much, much harder to listen to my body and what it needs with the allure of the utterly irrelevant speed number out in front of me. So, like an idiot, I try and keep a certain speed going up a hill or on a flat or in a headwind, rather than sensibly listening to my body and pedaling at a consistent effort. The idea here is that horses and other animal powered locomotion go by effort. They go slower up hills and in headwinds and with heavy loads. But I think my mindset living with a car and driving one for so many years became based on speed. I'm going 75 on the highway and sure there is a hill here, so I put the gas pedal down and maintain 75. This mentality ended up driving my cycling experience when I had a computer in front of me. I know it's idiotic, but there you are. WIth that number out there my mind could not let go the idea that I should maintain speed. But that is no fun (unless I choose it). So back in my pre-Riv days, when I rode a recumbent trike, I ditched the computer and have been much happier ever sense. I don't track or log milage, times or any other data (I don't for running either). I use maps (including my iPhone) for navigation, and that's it. No computer, for me, makes it much easier to Just Ride. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
To save your knees, learn to stand for extended periods! My 58 year old knees are still working, thank God. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'm going to turn one of my bikes into a fixie. My singlespeed folder has transformed my thoughts on shifting, and now I don't do much of it on my geared bikes. I honestly had no idea it was so easy to climb things without downshifting constantly. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: gear cog combo change ???
yea, the instruction manual mentions not using different cogs with different (letter designated) cassettes but that is probably for index shifting purposes, I imagine. I sure like the 44x13 ratio on a certain part of my local route and the one tooth jump to my top gear is fine. I rarely use the 44x12 however so probably wouldn't need the 11 tooth plus they wear fast (my reason to not use it). I might be going to a double 44x30 or 28 alsoit just seems like the low 24 tooth inner chain ring is rarely needed but then again when it is it sure is nice. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:43:49 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Charlie: ...appears to shift fine. You have your verdict. This stuff isn't quite as fiddly as the manufacturers would like us to think. On a recent visit to Harris' website, I notice they list 11, 12, 13, 14 tooth smallest cogs, suitable for either 8 or 9 speed. Funny little note at the bottom said ...11 12 tooth cogs are discounted due to an over-supply. dougP On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:41:13 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: - Just installed a HG 11-30 eight speed but used a HG 7 12 tooth cog and nut in place of the tiny 11 tooth cog...any problems from doing this? I run 44x34x24 chain rings and wanted a one tooth jump to my top gear. I test rode it briefly and it appears to shift fine. School me yo!.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
all I ride with is a printout of a Sheldon gear chart, but my daughter has a Cateye Strada Cadence, and my buddy has the Garmin GPS heart-rate, etc. I shift mostly on my half-steps up front. But I agree, riding to the computer is like answering the cell phone at the river. On Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:54:09 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: To save your knees, learn to stand for extended periods! My 58 year old knees are still working, thank God. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I think I'm going to turn one of my bikes into a fixie. My singlespeed folder has transformed my thoughts on shifting, and now I don't do much of it on my geared bikes. I honestly had no idea it was so easy to climb things without downshifting constantly. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riding without a computer
When I got my AHH last year I decided to order it as recommended by the chef, Keven was the chef in my case. As such it was my first bike without computer and with flat pedals, a basket, friction shifting and cloth tape. The lack of a computer may have reduced my fitness because I am much less likely to push really hard to go fast but I enjoy riding more without a computer than with one, I have removed the computers from all of my other bikes. I love the basket, every bike should have one. Friction shifting is fine. I dig the cloth tape. I still prefer being clipped-in, especially in the rain and snow, but I still ride my Riv with flat pedals. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: gear cog combo change ???
I rarely use the 24X32 granny on my AHH, but every once in a while it's nice to spin loose. If it's too steep or I'm too tired to push, I just walk. --Andy On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:41:13 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: - Just installed a HG 11-30 eight speed but used a HG 7 12 tooth cog and nut in place of the tiny 11 tooth cog...any problems from doing this? I run 44x34x24 chain rings and wanted a one tooth jump to my top gear. I test rode it briefly and it appears to shift fine. School me yo!.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
Airless tires have so much resistance that you'd rather change a flat every 10 miles! We tested a set of airless tires for our latest tire test (Bicycle Quarterly Spring 2013), and found that they used 50% more power than a good racing tire. Maintaining 20 mph was very hard work. And in corners, they squirmed so much that it was really disconcerting. With all that, the lack of comfort was the smallest problem... Pneumatic tires were the biggest advance in cycling, perhaps even bigger than attaching cranks to the front wheel! Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:54:58 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: For an urban utility/runaround bike with small diameter wheels, this strikes me as a very clever idea. I was waiting to discover that the tires were non-pneumatic, which might make the whole assembly even more attractive, as there would be no more flats. I wonder if the loops smooth things out enough to be used with solid tires. Making fun of this idea from the point of view of a cyclist who uses 700c-ish wheels is to miss the point, and the inventor seems to have a pretty good understanding and appreciation of how bicycles work. pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Someone else is trying to reinvent the wheel, literally
A very slight correction. From my own admittedly limited experience, air less tires fell no worse than: Thick belted tire with Heavy, stiff sidewalls, lined with Heavy Mr Tuffys, with 500 gram thorn-proof tubes laced with A pint of Slime. An airless tire can actually feel better than this -- harsher, but with slightly less of the riding in cold molasses feeling. Patrick Moore, developing his hand strength by installing this combo in many, many different wheels at the LBS every Thursday. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: Airless tires have so much resistance that you'd rather change a flat every 10 miles! We tested a set of airless tires for our latest tire test (Bicycle Quarterly Spring 2013), and found that they used 50% more power than a good racing tire. Maintaining 20 mph was very hard work. And in corners, they squirmed so much that it was really disconcerting. With all that, the lack of comfort was the smallest problem... Pneumatic tires were the biggest advance in cycling, perhaps even bigger than attaching cranks to the front wheel! Jan Heine -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I for one like having a computer if for any other reason than to log miles. I may be fooling myself but I don't chase the speed or anyone else for that matter I just ride at a pace that feels good! If I feel spritely than I up it a bit, but mostly I gauge my distance and such and set a pace I can sustain for the ride. I used to ride with a Garmin something with all the bells and whistles and I really disliked the heart rate monitor I already listen to my bio-feedback if my heart is trying to leap out of my chest I think it's time to back off. It now is resting on a filing cabinet gathering dust. Best, Hugh On Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:49:23 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: All I do not want/need/desire is *another* computer while on the sanctity of the bicycle !!! It is a time to open thine eyes,ears and all senses wide and far, enjoy the ride and forget about anything other than* where I Am * :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
The last cycle computer I had was an analog speedometer on my Schwinn when I was a kid. Do they still make those? Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] May Day ride
So there was a meeting in Abingdon yesterday that drug me away from Big Stone Gap. Wrapped up around noon. Instead of driving back to the office, nor wanting to head straight back home to Kingsport... I'd planned ahead, and brought my Bomba along w/ me to Abingdon. Had shorts on under my khakis, wearing my gray Vans... As soon as the meeting was over, I found myself over at the Virginia Creeper Trail trailhead on the Abingdon side. 15 or so miles to Damascus, grabbed lunch, then headed back to Abingdon.Saw three different species of snakes (actually saw four snakes, but the first garter snake was in a dog's mouth, didn't get a pic) (didn't get a pic of the black snake, either).Not crowded either, just occasionally ran into others on it, not like a weekend, or fall foliage season... lots of AT thru-hikers in Damascus right now, normal for now. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/sets/72157633391476655/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
Personally, I like my computer. Primarily, I like the odometer. I like to know how many miles I get out of a set of tires, a chain, and various other consumables/components. I like to know how many miles I rode his year, last year, and how many miles I have on my Sam Hillborne. I also keep a log. My log dates back to 1994.At 55, I'm not controlled by a speedometer. I really don't pay attention to it that much, but when I do, it helps keep things in perspective. And that might just be what I like most about it ... it keeps me from becoming a legend in my own mind. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] May Day ride
Looks like a great way to spend the afternoon. Damascus has a very different feel than Abingdon, that transition must be interesting by biking through the woods. :) -sv On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: So there was a meeting in Abingdon yesterday that drug me away from Big Stone Gap. Wrapped up around noon. Instead of driving back to the office, nor wanting to head straight back home to Kingsport... I'd planned ahead, and brought my Bomba along w/ me to Abingdon. Had shorts on under my khakis, wearing my gray Vans... As soon as the meeting was over, I found myself over at the Virginia Creeper Trail trailhead on the Abingdon side. 15 or so miles to Damascus, grabbed lunch, then headed back to Abingdon.Saw three different species of snakes (actually saw four snakes, but the first garter snake was in a dog's mouth, didn't get a pic) (didn't get a pic of the black snake, either).Not crowded either, just occasionally ran into others on it, not like a weekend, or fall foliage season... lots of AT thru-hikers in Damascus right now, normal for now. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/sets/72157633391476655/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
Sorry I forgot to include the wheel size, big oversight on my part. They are 26 inches, and I have dropped the price to $325.00 shipped. Thanks for all of the responses. A lot of the items have been sold and everyone has been a pleasure to deal with. I will post an updated list of what is left tomorrow. Thanks everyone. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
