[RBW] Son of More Entmoot
It took me a while to process the trip, and how much fun it was. Super relaxing time away with like-minded amazing folks! This group is really a great find! Special call-outs to the Portland and So-cal crew who shared the ride with me down to the Bay Area! It made the 20-hrs of driving really fly by. I hope Ryan had a good ride back to Michigan, as well! Photos are here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZDgzVm And writeup: http://stonehog.com/2014/07/20/entmoot/ Brian Hanson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
That is strange. I'm pretty sure it's one of the older-style forks crown with (a bit) less clearance. The newer fork crowns have what Brian described as a 'frown'. Here's a photo from Leslie's flickr where the new frowning fork crown really obvious: https://flic.kr/p/bq9xMA. More on this later, but the 60 mm Big Apples which are perfect for my new-style Bombadil look to be OK on my recently acquired old-style Bombadil (haven't ridden it but they fit.)... so I'm not sure if moving the posts for a switch from 650B -- 26″ would really make a huge difference to tyre clearance on the old-style Bombadil, since there's a reasonable amount of clearance already? In the photos on that ebay listing the pads *seem* to be near the bottom of the slot in the V-brake so maybe 650B could be made to work with the right brake? Ahh, so much fun speculatin' on bikes for sale. Happy mondays, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
Seller replied to me, and while kinda' cryptic, implied that as Bombas are semi-custom, s/he requested it built for 26. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: That is strange. I'm pretty sure it's one of the older-style forks crown with (a bit) less clearance. The newer fork crowns have what Brian described as a 'frown'. Here's a photo from Leslie's flickr where the new frowning fork crown really obvious: https://flic.kr/p/bq9xMA. More on this later, but the 60 mm Big Apples which are perfect for my new-style Bombadil look to be OK on my recently acquired old-style Bombadil (haven't ridden it but they fit.)... so I'm not sure if moving the posts for a switch from 650B -- 26″ would really make a huge difference to tyre clearance on the old-style Bombadil, since there's a reasonable amount of clearance already? In the photos on that ebay listing the pads *seem* to be near the bottom of the slot in the V-brake so maybe 650B could be made to work with the right brake? Ahh, so much fun speculatin' on bikes for sale. Happy mondays, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bosco'd Trail Ride
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/07/thursday-night-trail-riding-happy-100th.html Wow was this fun! Close to me is a great intro mountain bike trail at Wakefield Park in VA. I believe it is considered a pretty easy, or 'not to technical' trail but I'm definitely not the right person to judge that at this point. Regardless, I've been 3 or 4 times over the past year after I discovered it during an LBS's fatbike demo ride day last year. This past week I met up with a friend from work who is a very serious mountainbiker (full suspension, downhill, cross country and all that) named Jonathan. Best part about this was that aside from the great conversation I was able to follow him around the ~8 miles of trails without having to figure out where we were going all the time. Being able to concentrate on the trail was great. The other fun thing about Wakefield is that in the summer they don't close you down at sunset, if equipped with lights you can stay and ride on, so we didn't get off the trail till a bit after 9PM. It wasn't truly dark when we wrapped up but it was getting that way under the canopy in places. But on to the Riv-ish content, the bike is my oft re-imagined MB-5 pictured below. Since I've had this bike it started as a straight bar 'stock' MB-5 then morphed into a moustache bar till I realized I just couldn't get the bars up high enough for comfort about a year ago, then it became a bullmoose rig which was also a bit low on the bars than I had wanted. The frame is clearly to small for me for most applications so I started thinking about the Alba's or a Bosco and when I finally sold one of my other garage queen frames I sprung for the 55cm (cromo) bosco bars. For further bstone/riv interest the brake levers and Ritchey rubber grips came off my XO-3's M-Bars! I honestly think the bosco's are pretty awkward looking at least on this bike... maybe the bosco-bullmooses would look better. But looks aside I loved the results on the trail. I had a tremendous amount of turning leverage and felt very comfortable in the saddle. The bars did contribute to my weight being further back on the rear wheel which made me pop up the front a couple times on short, steep hills but I think I can learn to compensate for that. I was definitely the only rider I saw with a frame pump, large seat bag, 2x water bottles on the frame... not to mention the rim brakes, 'small' 2.1 tires and friction shifting! :) It was alot of fun picking my way through and around the trails that my buddy was blasting over on his full suspension bike, I know I haven't spent much time doing this kind of riding but at least so far I'm not feeling limited by my older equipment setup. I'm pretty slow anyway, and I can pick my way through the stuff I don't want to attempt for now. So a very happy Bosco customer in the offroad category here in VA! Happy riding everyone. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HZ6Iv7mOwYA/U8iZ7tqquCI/E5M/lF-IuRd0yUc/s1600/DSC_3973.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] QR question
The original post did not say what sort of hubs were on the wheel set. I see now the OP did later post the wheel set is based around LX. On Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:48:51 AM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote: As has already been stated, Shimano hubs come with QRs so it is actually nothing like that all. It is more like ordering a combo meal that comes with coffee and then not getting coffee. Or something. Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] QR question
Oh yeah - As I have not eaten at McDonalds (or any other fast food restaurant for that matter) in years. Beyond me how anyone can subject themselves to food in a restaurant that calls its efforts Combo-Meals. Does not sound edible, whatever it's content may be. On Monday, July 21, 2014 6:57:21 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: The original post did not say what sort of hubs were on the wheel set. I see now the OP did later post the wheel set is based around LX. On Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:48:51 AM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote: As has already been stated, Shimano hubs come with QRs so it is actually nothing like that all. It is more like ordering a combo meal that comes with coffee and then not getting coffee. Or something. Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Paul's brakes on your Riv. Experience between models?
Hi All, Many folks here note that they needed to do some fiddling with their Paul's to get them set up right. I'm curious what tricks people have used to get the best performance out of their Paul cantis? I have touring cantis and they're fine. Beautiful, of course, but performance wise they're not world changing. I gotta say, however, that the super cheap Deore V brakes on my LHT--pulled by mtn levers on albatross bars--work every bit as good if not better. Anyway, set up tips, tricks, etc would be good to know about. Thanks, Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] I love 11-34!
Or better yet get this: http://www.wolftoothcycling.com/products/giant-cog-for-shimano On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:16:29 AM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: Wait till you try 11-36 or 11-36! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Installed a HG50 9 speed 11-34 last week on my Riv along with a new Deore M-591 SGS rear derailer and a new KMC chain. I have been extremely pleased with this setup so far. I'm just wondering why I waited so long to make the change. One thing I didn't expect is that it allows me to ride in the big ring a lot more because the number of teeth jump up much faster than on a cassette with closer spaced gears, it seems. I don't mind the gears spacing further apart either, I have usually tended to make 2 and 3 gear shifts at a time anyway. With this cassette, I don't have to. I have not had to use the granny once since getting this setup. I'm almost 1:1 in the middle ring now at 36-34. Good stuff. Although now I am thinking I might like to try this bike setup as a wide-low double. Decisions, decisions. ;) -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
If they made one with the spacer the same outer diameter, there wouldn't be enough aluminum to tap out and thread for the bell bolt. The only way to get a spacer mounted bell is to use a thicker spacer. Scott On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:05 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the outer spacer mount diameter bulges out wider than the regular spacer diameters on 1 steerers, like the pic on the rivsite ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bellhed.htm) So I was wondering, does it stick out on yours, or is it just that way in that pic they have on the site? One of my favorite features of Riv bikes are the shot-glasses - the pretty stack of headset spacers. I don't want to ruin the line. Maybe I am just cork grip sniffing about this, but it's one of the things I find beautiful on these bikes. So just want to know how it really is so I can stop mulling and either get one, or wait until they start selling one with a uniform outer diameter for 1 spacers. Didn't they have one with an aluminum (silver colored) bell on it once? That would be a nice match for all the silver color on these bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
Is there something wrong with just using all bigger spacers on the stack so they match? On Jul 21, 2014 9:17 AM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote: If they made one with the spacer the same outer diameter, there wouldn't be enough aluminum to tap out and thread for the bell bolt. The only way to get a spacer mounted bell is to use a thicker spacer. Scott On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:05 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the outer spacer mount diameter bulges out wider than the regular spacer diameters on 1 steerers, like the pic on the rivsite ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bellhed.htm) So I was wondering, does it stick out on yours, or is it just that way in that pic they have on the site? One of my favorite features of Riv bikes are the shot-glasses - the pretty stack of headset spacers. I don't want to ruin the line. Maybe I am just cork grip sniffing about this, but it's one of the things I find beautiful on these bikes. So just want to know how it really is so I can stop mulling and either get one, or wait until they start selling one with a uniform outer diameter for 1 spacers. Didn't they have one with an aluminum (silver colored) bell on it once? That would be a nice match for all the silver color on these bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I love 11-34!
Recently, I moved to a 1x9 spd setup, with a SRAM 11-34 in the rear, shifting with a 9 spd XT long cage RD. So nice, so much range. Enjoy! KJ On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:04:00 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: Installed a HG50 9 speed 11-34 last week on my Riv along with a new Deore M-591 SGS rear derailer and a new KMC chain. I have been extremely pleased with this setup so far. I'm just wondering why I waited so long to make the change. One thing I didn't expect is that it allows me to ride in the big ring a lot more because the number of teeth jump up much faster than on a cassette with closer spaced gears, it seems. I don't mind the gears spacing further apart either, I have usually tended to make 2 and 3 gear shifts at a time anyway. With this cassette, I don't have to. I have not had to use the granny once since getting this setup. I'm almost 1:1 in the middle ring now at 36-34. Good stuff. Although now I am thinking I might like to try this bike setup as a wide-low double. Decisions, decisions. ;) -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS - White Industries, Chris King -
BUMP!!! Any lanky fellow's looking for a sweet 180mm MUSA crank?!? I'd also take a trade for one that was a bit shorter. The two MUSA hubs are likewise doing nothing for me in the garage, make an offer! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I love 11-34!
I built my Hillborne with a 36x12 and 46x30 up front. You don't use the 30t chainring often, but boy am I glad to have it. Marc On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:04:00 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: Installed a HG50 9 speed 11-34 last week on my Riv along with a new Deore M-591 SGS rear derailer and a new KMC chain. I have been extremely pleased with this setup so far. I'm just wondering why I waited so long to make the change. One thing I didn't expect is that it allows me to ride in the big ring a lot more because the number of teeth jump up much faster than on a cassette with closer spaced gears, it seems. I don't mind the gears spacing further apart either, I have usually tended to make 2 and 3 gear shifts at a time anyway. With this cassette, I don't have to. I have not had to use the granny once since getting this setup. I'm almost 1:1 in the middle ring now at 36-34. Good stuff. Although now I am thinking I might like to try this bike setup as a wide-low double. Decisions, decisions. ;) -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Edeluxe on sidepull bike mounting?
Nowhere in Schmidt's literature do they claim their SL hub is 'wireless'. As others have noted, a better description is 'connectorless' since you don't have to plug any spade terminals in. You just insert the wheel into the dropouts and contact is made through a stainless contact plate on one dropout. The plate is electrically isolated from the fork via a nylon bushing, and a wire runs inside the fork blade. The ground happens on the other dropout. So the fork itself serves as ground. For sidepull brakes, I think the mounting bracket that Busch Muller sell for their Cyo headlight will be compatible with the brake bolt and possibly the mounting tab on the Edelux, but I'm not 100% certain. As for different dynamo hubs, I have both Shimano and Schmidt hubs. Both produce comparable output, but I feel vibration in the handlebars with the Shimano hub and the lights on. I don't feel it with the Schmidt hub. Anton You're grounded! Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
Interesting. Definitely a unique color scheme and wheel choice. Right up the road from the site of the recent Entmoot Would have been interesting to see this in person. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
I do find myself looking at all that unused tire clearance and just shaking my head. But, it does look like a great frame wearing a lot of cast off mtb parts. (and showing a ton of seatpost...) - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
At that price, you could buy it, re-place the canti posts for 650B, and have it re-painted for less than a new one! I like the stem, too. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I do find myself looking at all that unused tire clearance and just shaking my head. But, it does look like a great frame wearing a lot of cast off mtb parts. (and showing a ton of seatpost...) - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Entmoot Motivated Change
Another +1 on the Kermit chair - it was brought by Ryan (? The teacher from Michigan). Anne's tent was pretty slick - bug protective but very simple. And, as Philip said, fixed does make you a bit anti-social on climbs, but works fine overall. I've kind of been basket-averse, but was reasonably jealous of the ease of gear assembly and adaptability which it offers. Or, I could seek to attain the packing brilliance of Lee... - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Link To My Entmoot Pictures
It's surprising what you can do when you don't know you can't. dougP ^^ DEFINITELY the next RBW T-shirt slogan! - Jim / cyclofiend -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] QR question
Yeah, it's a drag to get something with missing parts but Grant has graciously posted his willingness to make it right. So hopefully it's all good. Hope work settles down. On Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:16:25 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: Thanks for the kind words, I try to keep my cool at all times but was so bummed to miss a beautiful weekend riding since its just been super hectic at work lately and being out in the woods here the lack of a good LBS sucks. My new local is closed at 2 on Saturday all day sunday Monday and Tuesday, its a great little operation but finding the time in my schedule to get out there is impossible. Thanks for the reply Grant, sorry if I was inelegant, its unfortunately my nature, no amount of smacks to the back of the head from my mom will change me it seems. I did tear apart the spare parts bin looking for a skewer tonight and all I came up with was a couple of janky looking steel front skewers and I need a rear 135mm. I have some time tomorrow and will call up RBW and work it out. (I never know whether to directly respond to you-grant and RBW employees on the list or not so will just call). If they could send along a Hermes handbag as well that would make my wife happy too, hahaha. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Christopher Murray chrispm...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: As someone who lives in a fairly remote place and thus has to order most things, I can certainly relate to the frustration when something arrives broken, wrong, missing parts, etc. It is almost never a case of running out to a local store to make it right. It involves phone calls and return shipping and (WORST OF ALL) more waiting. Obviously the OP is in a situation where he can't just run out to get a QR so that magnifies the frustration of things not showing up as expected. Yes, I think the frustration was expressed a little more crudely than necessary, but I also think we should cut the guy some slack. He paid for something and waited and when it showed up it was not what he expected. These things do happen of course and you just need to deal with them without losing your cool. He wanted to ride and couldn't and it doesn't sound like he has a ton of free time to just ride whenever. Peter, I am sorry your wheel didn't arrive as expected. That sucks and must be super disappointing. Call Riv and see what they say. In my experience they will take care if it and be more sorry about it than you. They are great people and will make it right. Hang in there it will get resolved. Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Edeluxe on sidepull bike mounting?
Actually, you're only grounded with Shimano (and similar) hubs. My understanding is that the SON hubs don't ground through the axle (though of course, you're free to ground yourself) :-). Anton You're grounded! Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Edeluxe on sidepull bike mounting?
The Schmidt SL hub, aka 'connectorless', breaks that rule and grounds through the opposite dropout to the one supplying power. That's how it allows the connectorless system to work. Shimano hubs are grounded at both dropouts. Anton On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:07:52 PM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Actually, you're only grounded with Shimano (and similar) hubs. My understanding is that the SON hubs don't ground through the axle (though of course, you're free to ground yourself) :-). Anton You're grounded! Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
I urge you to have your partner test a Brooks saddle before you pick one for her. There is a good reason why many women like seats with cutouts. If one's saddle issue is with the rear of the saddle, a Brooks can be a good choice. If one's saddle issue is with the front of the saddle, a Brooks, being flat, may well make it worse. Some women love Brooks saddles. I wouldn't want to ride a quarter of a mile on one. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
I think I have some 44 noodles but I'll need to measure when I get home tonight. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Edeluxe on sidepull bike mounting?
Interesting. I assumed that they had plates for BOTH dropouts, since they've made a big deal in the past about not grounding to the frame, but it makes sense (in the pursuit of simplicity) to only require the one. Thanks for the (ahem) illumination! On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:38:49 PM UTC-4, Anton Tutter wrote: The Schmidt SL hub, aka 'connectorless', breaks that rule and grounds through the opposite dropout to the one supplying power. That's how it allows the connectorless system to work. Shimano hubs are grounded at both dropouts. Anton On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:07:52 PM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Actually, you're only grounded with Shimano (and similar) hubs. My understanding is that the SON hubs don't ground through the axle (though of course, you're free to ground yourself) :-). Anton You're grounded! Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I love 11-34!
Glad indeed. My 11-32 keeps me in the big chainring (48) of my Sugino triple nearly all the time when it's just me and a laptop on my Sam - but it's a different story with my son and/or shopping on board. Finally busted out the lowest lowest gear a coupla weekends ago: 26x32 to get the kid up a hill. Later investigation with a map revealed that it was the 15% grade in the middle that finally killed our momentum. Ouch! Going down was fun, though: my son only knows a few words, but bike and whee were among the first, and still very popular! On Monday, July 21, 2014 11:03:39 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: I built my Hillborne with a 36x12 and 46x30 up front. You don't use the 30t chainring often, but boy am I glad to have it. Marc On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:04:00 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: Installed a HG50 9 speed 11-34 last week on my Riv along with a new Deore M-591 SGS rear derailer and a new KMC chain. I have been extremely pleased with this setup so far. I'm just wondering why I waited so long to make the change. One thing I didn't expect is that it allows me to ride in the big ring a lot more because the number of teeth jump up much faster than on a cassette with closer spaced gears, it seems. I don't mind the gears spacing further apart either, I have usually tended to make 2 and 3 gear shifts at a time anyway. With this cassette, I don't have to. I have not had to use the granny once since getting this setup. I'm almost 1:1 in the middle ring now at 36-34. Good stuff. Although now I am thinking I might like to try this bike setup as a wide-low double. Decisions, decisions. ;) -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
Thanks Jim! And to Anne, she has been riding my contoured-to my butt -sprung b-17 with no complaints so I'm thinking something slightly used that will form a symbiotic relationship with her should do fine. Thanks for the quick response and female perspective! Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 21, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I think I have some 44 noodles but I'll need to measure when I get home tonight. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q4qDSqbZkQc/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: racks for sale
Nitto rack spoken for, pending paypal. Tubus still available. Thanks to all who've looked. Rusty On Sunday, July 20, 2014 7:24:32 PM UTC-4, Rusty Click wrote: Spring touring is done, and I'm going back to a Nelson LF and a basket up front to carry my gear. Subsequently, this leaves me with two racks for sale. If prices seem 'out-a-whack', please let me know. If you want to pay more, please let me know. (grin) I have a Nitto Big Back rack(v1), size large at $120 shipped to lower 48, and a Tubus Tara low-rider ( one season used) at $65 shipped Maybe both at $170??? If anyone has interest, please contact offline. Rusty Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Edeluxe on sidepull bike mounting?
Glad I could 'enlighten' you! On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:42:00 PM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Interesting. I assumed that they had plates for BOTH dropouts, since they've made a big deal in the past about not grounding to the frame, but it makes sense (in the pursuit of simplicity) to only require the one. Thanks for the (ahem) illumination! On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:38:49 PM UTC-4, Anton Tutter wrote: The Schmidt SL hub, aka 'connectorless', breaks that rule and grounds through the opposite dropout to the one supplying power. That's how it allows the connectorless system to work. Shimano hubs are grounded at both dropouts. Anton On Monday, July 21, 2014 12:07:52 PM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote: Actually, you're only grounded with Shimano (and similar) hubs. My understanding is that the SON hubs don't ground through the axle (though of course, you're free to ground yourself) :-). Anton You're grounded! Tutter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Entmoot Motivated Change
Thanks, everyone. When I posed my question, I definitely didn't expect so much chair input. I commonly bring a small piece of cloth that I roll up and strap to my saddlebag, affectionately referred to as my lollygagging mat. It provides just a little cushion and a clean spot to enjoy my frequent coffee outside outings. If I could get a chair to roll up to the same size and no heavier, maybe I upgrade. The hammock has been my S24O game changer, and I saw several in the photos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Paul's brakes on your Riv. Experience between models?
If the issue is power, instead of centering, rubbing, noise or stability, I would expect one of two causes. First, it may be a mismatch with the levers. I found that the Shimano SIS levers did not work well with any cantis. They just pull too much cable to get a good grip. Second, and here I'm guessing a bit because I have no experience with the touring cantis, only the noes, my intuition tells me I will get the most power when the cable is 90 degrees from the arms. On my neo retros that means I have a very hi and long straddle cable. The touring cantis, at 45 degrees would be much lower. The Paul site says this: We recommend running the Touring Canti with a lower straddle wire to maximize stopping power. Having the cable carrier between 1 inches and 2 above the tire is a good range. I suppose it could also be the pads or too little toe in that is compromising the power. I find setting up cantis is best with a lever that has a quick release, so they can be set pretty close to the rim and still allow easy wire removal. The Cane Creek and Tektro levers work great with these brakes. I also like to have an adjustable barrel on the cable and a good quality hanger, Paul's are nice to work with. To adjust them I simply unhook the straddle cable, put an allen wrench on the outside and move the 15mm adjusting bolt to the desired tension in the return spring. BTW, be careful when installing the springs, They go in one direction for cantis and the other for Cps. It's easy to get confused. Hope this helps. Michael On Monday, July 21, 2014 8:52:48 AM UTC-4, Christian wrote: Hi All, Many folks here note that they needed to do some fiddling with their Paul's to get them set up right. I'm curious what tricks people have used to get the best performance out of their Paul cantis? I have touring cantis and they're fine. Beautiful, of course, but performance wise they're not world changing. I gotta say, however, that the super cheap Deore V brakes on my LHT--pulled by mtn levers on albatross bars--work every bit as good if not better. Anyway, set up tips, tricks, etc would be good to know about. Thanks, Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
So what were those toes that were stepped on? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM, captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jim! And to Anne, she has been riding my contoured-to my butt -sprung b-17 with no complaints so I'm thinking something slightly used that will form a symbiotic relationship with her should do fine. Thanks for the quick response and female perspective! Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 21, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I think I have some 44 noodles but I'll need to measure when I get home tonight. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q4qDSqbZkQc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
The parentals. IMO they saved $12 hundo. Maybe I can get them to pay for our hotel in vacay this fall. Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: So what were those toes that were stepped on? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM, captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jim! And to Anne, she has been riding my contoured-to my butt -sprung b-17 with no complaints so I'm thinking something slightly used that will form a symbiotic relationship with her should do fine. Thanks for the quick response and female perspective! Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 21, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I think I have some 44 noodles but I'll need to measure when I get home tonight. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q4qDSqbZkQc/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q4qDSqbZkQc/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] ISO Salsa Caseroll recipes
Fun times! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:01 AM, captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: The parentals. IMO they saved $12 hundo. Maybe I can get them to pay for our hotel in vacay this fall. Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: So what were those toes that were stepped on? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM, captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jim! And to Anne, she has been riding my contoured-to my butt -sprung b-17 with no complaints so I'm thinking something slightly used that will form a symbiotic relationship with her should do fine. Thanks for the quick response and female perspective! Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 21, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I think I have some 44 noodles but I'll need to measure when I get home tonight. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: Awhile back I solicited input for a rivish bike for my partner's grad school graduation/birthday bike. She had more less taken over my hunqish cross check so I ended up buying us a vacation. THEN her parents offered to buy her a LBS bike. All of the stuff I was interested in for her wasn't available for test rides-soma saga, handsome xoxo, Riv San Marcos or NOS '12 salsa caseroll. Low and behold I found a practically new caseroll locally for $700 so I jumped on it. I stepped on some toes but she loves it. It's stock now but I'm interested in her having a more rivish build which is self serving because now I get to tinker. I want to buy used first then I'll fill in gaps at rivbike. What I'm ISO are: VP pedals 44 noodles TRP levers Bar end shifters IRD threadless 1 1/8 x 45 degree x 80 mm Soma c line tires Nitto post Lightly used brooks b-17 or similar Wald medium basket Thanks in advance! FW, CCB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q4qDSqbZkQc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q4qDSqbZkQc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne Rohloff Conversion
Say, after 10 months, how's the Rohloff/SO combo working out? I'm thinking about my next frame, and how to gear it... - Andrew, Berkeley On Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:39:41 PM UTC-7, oceano...@gmail.com wrote: For a little more context, I live at the top of 84 in Woodside and I commute to work everyday (was Palo Alto, now Redwood City). This SimpleOne was my first Rivendell, but when I moved to Woodside I largely stopped riding it and purchased an Atlantis. A single speed in the mountains isn't exactly the greatest commuting option. I biked up Old La Honda once, it wasn't terribly fun. Back in early August I messed up the fork of my Atlantis so I needed a way to continue commuting. Given that I live in a tiny place, buying a third bike wasn't really enticing. This SimpleOne has lots of sentimental value at this point so selling it never really crossed my mind. I had been intrigued with a Rohloff conversion for quite some time though, and this was the perfect opportunity to try it. The past few weeks have been really great, plus I noticed my commute times have improved by 2-3 minutes. For what it's worth, my SimpleOne has a wider gearing range than my Atlantis. Crazy. Anyway, I won't be going back to a single speed anytime soon, that's for sure. - Geoff On Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:23:14 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: the cold-set itself is only 1/3-inch on each side - the trick to it is keeping the alignment. Great-looking bikes and I'm jealous - thanks for showing them. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 9:56:43 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: First, congratulations; that's an ambitious mod. The basic concept is cool (i.e. being able to switch between single-speed and internal-geared), except cold-setting a 120mm spaced-frame to 135mm to me is pretty extreme. A big part of the appeal of the S1/QB is that it IS a single speed and it has 120mm rear spacing. If you want gears (let alone a 14-speed Rohloff), why are you starting with a 120mm SS frame and (forever) altering its genetic structure? And how can you ever go back to SS (in good conscience) as a 135mm-spaced SS??? Besides, there are other gearing options without having to cold set. For example, you can get creative with a dual-speed freewheel and double crankset to at least stretch your SS into a 4-speed. Or you can choose a 126mm internal-geared hub (like a SRAM/Spectro P5 or S7; granted not a Rohloff, but a nice durable hub). I use a Patterson 2-speed crankset which extends my S1 to climb moderate hills. Add an S7 hub, and you've got formidable gear range. OK, blah blah blah... fact remains you've already created a Simple-14.. at the very least that's audacious, diabolical and totally Frankenbikish, worthy of props... so I'll give that a big Dr Evil MBWAAAHH!!! Peace, BB On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:55:53 PM UTC-4, Daniel Molloy wrote: Hi group, I thought I would share this Rohloff conversion we just finished at Cycle Monkey. As a former Rivendell employee and current Rohloff user I'm a little biased, but I think it turned out great. We cold-set the rear triangle without any problems. Alex Wetmore converted his Quickbeam to a Rohloff a while back, but there doesn't seem to be much info online about it anymore. Fair Disclosure: I currently work at Cycle Monkey, and am only posting here since I believe it counts as relevant and interesting Riv Content. http://cyclemonkeylab.blogspot.com/2013/09/rivendell-simpleone-rohloff-speedhub.html Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne Rohloff Conversion
It looked like it was working great when he visited Austin a couple of months ago and rode a 100K RUSA permanent populaire with about 5 other guys including myself. Him and another Rivendell rider on a geared custom rode off the front on the way back from the turnaround. Although they ended up behind us slowpokes when they took a wrong turn. ;) I took a couple of (bad) pictures of it but it looked like the Rohloff was meant to be there. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:12 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Say, after 10 months, how's the Rohloff/SO combo working out? I'm thinking about my next frame, and how to gear it... - Andrew, Berkeley On Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:39:41 PM UTC-7, oceano...@gmail.com wrote: For a little more context, I live at the top of 84 in Woodside and I commute to work everyday (was Palo Alto, now Redwood City). This SimpleOne was my first Rivendell, but when I moved to Woodside I largely stopped riding it and purchased an Atlantis. A single speed in the mountains isn't exactly the greatest commuting option. I biked up Old La Honda once, it wasn't terribly fun. Back in early August I messed up the fork of my Atlantis so I needed a way to continue commuting. Given that I live in a tiny place, buying a third bike wasn't really enticing. This SimpleOne has lots of sentimental value at this point so selling it never really crossed my mind. I had been intrigued with a Rohloff conversion for quite some time though, and this was the perfect opportunity to try it. The past few weeks have been really great, plus I noticed my commute times have improved by 2-3 minutes. For what it's worth, my SimpleOne has a wider gearing range than my Atlantis. Crazy. Anyway, I won't be going back to a single speed anytime soon, that's for sure. - Geoff On Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:23:14 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: the cold-set itself is only 1/3-inch on each side - the trick to it is keeping the alignment. Great-looking bikes and I'm jealous - thanks for showing them. On Thursday, September 5, 2013 9:56:43 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: First, congratulations; that's an ambitious mod. The basic concept is cool (i.e. being able to switch between single-speed and internal-geared), except cold-setting a 120mm spaced-frame to 135mm to me is pretty extreme. A big part of the appeal of the S1/QB is that it IS a single speed and it has 120mm rear spacing. If you want gears (let alone a 14-speed Rohloff), why are you starting with a 120mm SS frame and (forever) altering its genetic structure? And how can you ever go back to SS (in good conscience) as a 135mm-spaced SS??? Besides, there are other gearing options without having to cold set. For example, you can get creative with a dual-speed freewheel and double crankset to at least stretch your SS into a 4-speed. Or you can choose a 126mm internal-geared hub (like a SRAM/Spectro P5 or S7; granted not a Rohloff, but a nice durable hub). I use a Patterson 2-speed crankset which extends my S1 to climb moderate hills. Add an S7 hub, and you've got formidable gear range. OK, blah blah blah... fact remains you've already created a Simple-14.. at the very least that's audacious, diabolical and totally Frankenbikish, worthy of props... so I'll give that a big Dr Evil MBWAAAHH!!! Peace, BB On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:55:53 PM UTC-4, Daniel Molloy wrote: Hi group, I thought I would share this Rohloff conversion we just finished at Cycle Monkey. As a former Rivendell employee and current Rohloff user I'm a little biased, but I think it turned out great. We cold-set the rear triangle without any problems. Alex Wetmore converted his Quickbeam to a Rohloff a while back, but there doesn't seem to be much info online about it anymore. Fair Disclosure: I currently work at Cycle Monkey, and am only posting here since I believe it counts as relevant and interesting Riv Content. http://cyclemonkeylab.blogspot.com/2013/09/ rivendell-simpleone-rohloff-speedhub.html Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit
[RBW] Re: Entmoot Motivated Change
On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:35:10 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Thanks, everyone. When I posed my question, I definitely didn't expect so much chair input. I commonly bring a small piece of cloth that I roll up and strap to my saddlebag, affectionately referred to as my lollygagging mat. It provides just a little cushion and a clean spot to enjoy my frequent coffee outside outings. If I could get a chair to roll up to the same size and no heavier, maybe I upgrade. The hammock has been my S24O game changer, and I saw several in the photos. The thing about a bunch of people gathering is that, sure, there may be one or two nice spots on a log or rock. But once 2 or 3 people have the comfortable, naturally occuring, spots in use if you want to join them you either stand until you get tired of standing there, or sit somewhere uncomfortable. A hammock seems to be just as troublesome for 5 or 10 people to all find a comfortable nearby spot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Entmoot Motivated Change
Depends on where you live, I guess. In the northwest the calculus is inverted, especially stealth camping. Lots of places to hang but few flat spots to be had. I've seen folks bring along a section of busted old sleeping pad as a sitting pad, which seems to work great. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:35:10 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Thanks, everyone. When I posed my question, I definitely didn't expect so much chair input. I commonly bring a small piece of cloth that I roll up and strap to my saddlebag, affectionately referred to as my lollygagging mat. It provides just a little cushion and a clean spot to enjoy my frequent coffee outside outings. If I could get a chair to roll up to the same size and no heavier, maybe I upgrade. The hammock has been my S24O game changer, and I saw several in the photos. The thing about a bunch of people gathering is that, sure, there may be one or two nice spots on a log or rock. But once 2 or 3 people have the comfortable, naturally occuring, spots in use if you want to join them you either stand until you get tired of standing there, or sit somewhere uncomfortable. A hammock seems to be just as troublesome for 5 or 10 people to all find a comfortable nearby spot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Just fixed, or new bike day? - either way, thanks to the nice Riv folks
Back in May I was on a group ride with my toddler in the front seat of our Sam Hillborne when I got my first flat ever for that bike. Probably approaching 2000 miles on it, so not too bad, I thought. Walk to a bench, snack and sippy cup for the kid, get out the patch kit. As I pulled the frame pump out from between the double top tubes, though, I noticed a suspiciously rust-looking discoloration along the lug attaching the lower top tube to the seat tube. I'm perfectly comfortable doing my own maintenance, but frame issues are definitely above my pay grade - assuming that 1 1/2 top tubes would still be pretty good, I rode straight home and then the next day I took it by my LBS for diagnosis. I was hoping maybe there was just a gap in the paint that allowed water and then rust in, but the shop owner knew better what to look for and showed me that there actually was a crack, about halfway around the joint between the lug and the seat tube. Hard to say how long it was there, or took to develop - It was on the side I lean against the wall when I park it, and opposite the side I usually mount from, so it's not an area I looked at much. So it turns out the flat was a good thing. Once we got it cleaned up, I was able to get an OK picture or two (the little tab on the right is bent out a bit because we were picking at it trying to decide if it was a paint chip or metal). https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jyhjNqQpbFk/U81oZFxg80I/Bcg/M7i258IK7YY/s1600/DSC_0306.jpg I got the frame secondhand, so Rivendell had no particular obligation to me (I was concerned about spending that much on a frame at the time, so saving a couple hundred bucks helped make my decision to get a Riv), but I figured I'd give them a call for advice on how to go about getting my frame repaired. Keven told me that while it could be repaired, they were curious to know how/why it failed, and would like for it to go back to the factory for inspection. I'm on the large side at 220ish lb., and I do carry the baby and/or groceries on occasion, but most of my riding is relatively low-stress city riding and commuting, so overall I probably cause much less stress than the other bikes on this list that get to go on off-road adventures/Jamborees/Entmoots/S24Os on a regular basis happily endure. Plus, it had fairly low mileage compared to a typical steel frame's lifetime (it was secondhand, but unbuilt/ridden before me). Keven worked with me on a much-more-than-fair deal to swap the frame for a new one, which with the recent sizing change durned out to be a better fit for me - I was between the 56cm and 60cm in the old lineup, so the new 58cm is right on the money. The new frame was on its way to me within a week, and the next weekend I swapped out the parts and sent the cracked frame back in the same box. Aside from the bare cable runs being ever-so-slightly longer, it was a pretty smooth process. The teardown was a lot quicker than the buildup, as expected. I figured I'd put my GoPro (sadly, having such things appears to be necessary with so many grumpy drivers around) on the ceiling fan and see what the top of my head looks like when I'm working on my bikes: http://youtu.be/EgTIcVUVnkA It's been a while now, but I still want to publicly thank Keven/Riv for going much farther than necessary to make sure I was back on a complete, non-broken Rivendell when there was really no obligation to help me at all. My question for the group is: did I get a second new bike day, or just a fixed bike day? There wasn't a dramatic change in feel between the old and new bikes, though I'd say my position did feel slightly more sensible - which I guess is a sign of a closer fit between the frame and rider size. Regardless, my co-pilot and I have been enjoying the new 58cm frame this summer (This picture also should answer the question: what good are those giant Bosco Bullmoose bars, really? Getting around babies with giant heads, of course!): https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SzummpC179E/U81uEahzALI/Bcw/PYE4LnUrm0w/s1600/IMG_2496.jpg Two thoughts on shifting since moving to the new frame: 1. I had a bear of a time getting the front derailleur to shift properly when I swapped frames, especially into the smallest chainring (of a Sugino triple). I was using what I think is the same low-profile Shimano MTB derailleur that Riv sells, but I just couldn't get it to move in far enough, and anyway, when I mounted it as low/close as Shimano recommends, shifting to the big/big combination (48/32) would make the chain rub on the lever arm where the cable attaches - this must not be an issue on bikes with steeper seat tubes, because otherwise it seems like a silly fault to make it through the design process. I couldn't say for certain since I had already removed everything from the other frame and hardly ever need the small chainring anyway, but I vaguely recalled having the same trouble on the
Re: [RBW] Re: Entmoot Motivated Change
For years, my therma-rester, a simple fabric and (carbon fiber?) plastic stick contraption which slips over my sleeping pad, inflatable or not, to make a comfy back support sitting or laying down. Good for campfire, tenting, or stargazing. Called a trekker chair kit now at REI. Sent from my iPad On Jul 21, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Another +1 on the Kermit chair - it was brought by Ryan (? The teacher from Michigan). Anne's tent was pretty slick - bug protective but very simple. And, as Philip said, fixed does make you a bit anti-social on climbs, but works fine overall. I've kind of been basket-averse, but was reasonably jealous of the ease of gear assembly and adaptability which it offers. Or, I could seek to attain the packing brilliance of Lee... - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
If it fits a wide 26 tire (2 plus)) it would be a perfect adventure tourer/rough stuff bike. My size, more-or-less, but it sold already! IanA. On Monday, July 21, 2014 9:49:46 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: At that price, you could buy it, re-place the canti posts for 650B, and have it re-painted for less than a new one! I like the stem, too. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.net javascript: wrote: I do find myself looking at all that unused tire clearance and just shaking my head. But, it does look like a great frame wearing a lot of cast off mtb parts. (and showing a ton of seatpost...) - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Red Bombadil!
Yeah, just noticed it sold. Anyone here??? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:32 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: If it fits a wide 26 tire (2 plus)) it would be a perfect adventure tourer/rough stuff bike. My size, more-or-less, but it sold already! IanA. On Monday, July 21, 2014 9:49:46 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: At that price, you could buy it, re-place the canti posts for 650B, and have it re-painted for less than a new one! I like the stem, too. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.net wrote: I do find myself looking at all that unused tire clearance and just shaking my head. But, it does look like a great frame wearing a lot of cast off mtb parts. (and showing a ton of seatpost...) - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Just fixed, or new bike day? - either way, thanks to the nice Riv folks
it definitely counts as new bike day! its great that riv took good care of you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Just fixed, or new bike day? - either way, thanks to the nice Riv folks
John: That's a wonderful story, with a happy ending. It's always encouraging to hear about people going beyond their recognized obligations, and I think there are plenty of list members who've had experiences with Rivendell taking good care of them. You co-pilot looks like one happy camper! Your packing boxing of the old frame before even starting on the new one says a lot about you. Then you cleaned up the junk before test riding! I'm usually out the door on half-inflated tires with tools scattered all over when doing a test ride. To your question, my vote is yes, you do get a new bike day. Enjoy the brief time with your co-pilot. All too soon the little ones insist on turning their own pedals. dougP On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:24:43 PM UTC-7, John Stowe wrote: Back in May I was on a group ride with my toddler in the front seat of our Sam Hillborne when I got my first flat ever for that bike. Probably approaching 2000 miles on it, so not too bad, I thought. Walk to a bench, snack and sippy cup for the kid, get out the patch kit. As I pulled the frame pump out from between the double top tubes, though, I noticed a suspiciously rust-looking discoloration along the lug attaching the lower top tube to the seat tube. I'm perfectly comfortable doing my own maintenance, but frame issues are definitely above my pay grade - assuming that 1 1/2 top tubes would still be pretty good, I rode straight home and then the next day I took it by my LBS for diagnosis. I was hoping maybe there was just a gap in the paint that allowed water and then rust in, but the shop owner knew better what to look for and showed me that there actually was a crack, about halfway around the joint between the lug and the seat tube. Hard to say how long it was there, or took to develop - It was on the side I lean against the wall when I park it, and opposite the side I usually mount from, so it's not an area I looked at much. So it turns out the flat was a good thing. Once we got it cleaned up, I was able to get an OK picture or two (the little tab on the right is bent out a bit because we were picking at it trying to decide if it was a paint chip or metal). https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jyhjNqQpbFk/U81oZFxg80I/Bcg/M7i258IK7YY/s1600/DSC_0306.jpg I got the frame secondhand, so Rivendell had no particular obligation to me (I was concerned about spending that much on a frame at the time, so saving a couple hundred bucks helped make my decision to get a Riv), but I figured I'd give them a call for advice on how to go about getting my frame repaired. Keven told me that while it could be repaired, they were curious to know how/why it failed, and would like for it to go back to the factory for inspection. I'm on the large side at 220ish lb., and I do carry the baby and/or groceries on occasion, but most of my riding is relatively low-stress city riding and commuting, so overall I probably cause much less stress than the other bikes on this list that get to go on off-road adventures/Jamborees/Entmoots/S24Os on a regular basis happily endure. Plus, it had fairly low mileage compared to a typical steel frame's lifetime (it was secondhand, but unbuilt/ridden before me). Keven worked with me on a much-more-than-fair deal to swap the frame for a new one, which with the recent sizing change durned out to be a better fit for me - I was between the 56cm and 60cm in the old lineup, so the new 58cm is right on the money. The new frame was on its way to me within a week, and the next weekend I swapped out the parts and sent the cracked frame back in the same box. Aside from the bare cable runs being ever-so-slightly longer, it was a pretty smooth process. The teardown was a lot quicker than the buildup, as expected. I figured I'd put my GoPro (sadly, having such things appears to be necessary with so many grumpy drivers around) on the ceiling fan and see what the top of my head looks like when I'm working on my bikes: http://youtu.be/EgTIcVUVnkA It's been a while now, but I still want to publicly thank Keven/Riv for going much farther than necessary to make sure I was back on a complete, non-broken Rivendell when there was really no obligation to help me at all. My question for the group is: did I get a second new bike day, or just a fixed bike day? There wasn't a dramatic change in feel between the old and new bikes, though I'd say my position did feel slightly more sensible - which I guess is a sign of a closer fit between the frame and rider size. Regardless, my co-pilot and I have been enjoying the new 58cm frame this summer (This picture also should answer the question: what good are those giant Bosco Bullmoose bars, really? Getting around babies with giant heads, of course!): https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SzummpC179E/U81uEahzALI/Bcw/PYE4LnUrm0w/s1600/IMG_2496.jpg Two thoughts on shifting
[RBW] Not my day
I suppose we have all had rides like this, and after two wonderful rides in the Adirondacks over the weekend, maybe I was due. This morning I headed out on the Saluki (Riv content) for a 25 mile loop that included a stop to visit a friend recovering from colin cancer and another at a farm stand for fresh corn for dinner. As soon as I started I realized the minimalist sneakers I was wearing and the White Ind Pedals with Bruce Gordon clips was a bad combination. My foot was sliding all over the pedal and by the time these low profile shoes made contact with the clips I was pushing with the back half of my arch. I've never really entirely warmed to the no clip option but ride them to give my foot some variety after surgery a couple of years ago. I decided to soldier on. As I headed down a steep slope on the aptly named Rollin Irish Rd. I tried to lift the chain onto the big ring. It wouldn't go and my foot couldn't stay with the spin going downhill. At the next top and first sign of shade, I stopped and adjusted the set screw on the FD. I had lots and lots of rolling terrain to go through and really wanted that ring to push on. However, I soon realized that I was now having trouble trimming the FD. No matter what I did it seemed to rub somewhere and the rattle which had developed between the steel bottle and cage made it harder to figure out. Onward I struggle down a beautiful dirt road. On the return trip the trim problem only seemed to get worse and my rhythm was completely off. On an up shift the chain now jumped across the 48 and wrapped around the crank arm. Looking straight down I suddenly realized that the FD had gotten knocked out of parallel. But as I sat back down I had the sensation that my saddle was loose and moving up down. I stood up and gave it a push. Just a bit of movement. Now five miles from home I had feet sliding around, a FD that wouldn't trim, a water bottle rattling, and a saddle bobbing. At about three miles I hit a mile of 8-9% grade that I usually climb in a 34/27 but with my saddle now quite loose and given how out of sync I was I tried to downshift to the little ring. The FD went across and into the fender while the chain ground against the parallelogram. Time to walk. At least at the top of that hill I had two miles of dirt road to coast down. Tomorrow is another day. Everything is fixable. Michael Westford, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
You're not grip-sniffing alone on this one, Sam - I was just ruminating on the very same topic this a.m. as I rode the train and stared vacantly at the headset of my Legolas! First, the RBW / Crane headset/spacer mount bell is a great item. It's not just another spacer with a thread added, but is machined (CNC'd?) from a larger solid piece. Meaning the base for the bell is better positioned and much less likely to strip out (as I've experienced w/ other's products). The Crane however is designed to work with either 1 (using an included shim) or 9/8 headsets. Standard Riv usage is as a 1 threaded steerer spacer, which presumes you have a tall-enough steerer (as all good Rivs should!). The Legolas is one of the exceptions available as 1 threadless, but it's the same situation- the oversize bell mount requires a shim. It looks a little wonky though, to stack 1 spacers above/below this larger alloy chunk (lovely chunk it is). My eye-easing remedy had been (reading from top-to-bottom), 1) 9/8 threadless cap, 2) a single thin 1 spacer, 3) Nitto TFL stem (9/8, and is on a reducer shim), 4) Crane bell mount (also on a shim, and its oversize-ness matches the 9/8 Nitto stem nicely), 5) 1 headset hanger (for cantilevers), 6) triple-1 spacers a la the Rivendell shot-glass, 7) 1 threadless headset top race. Problem is I've recently switched to a different hanger for my canti setup, rendering unnecessary the headset-hanger separator parked between the fat Crane and thinner shot-glass. I may try to find some thin 9/8 spacers and do a similar shotglass-over-a-shim, but I'll bet that will look wonky with the 1 top race. :-/ The Ideal Solution (maybe GP can turn some screws on Crane!?) would be for a similar style mount, but exclusively for 1! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 7/19/14, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the outer spacer mount diameter bulges out wider than the regular spacer diameters on 1 steerers, like the pic on the rivsite ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bellhed.htm) So I was wondering, does it stick out on yours, or is it just that way in that pic they have on the site? One of my favorite features of Riv bikes are the shot-glasses - the pretty stack of headset spacers. I don't want to ruin the line. Maybe I am just cork grip sniffing about this, but it's one of the things I find beautiful on these bikes. So just want to know how it really is so I can stop mulling and either get one, or wait until they start selling one with a uniform outer diameter for 1 spacers. Didn't they have one with an aluminum (silver colored) bell on it once? That would be a nice match for all the silver color on these bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Just fixed, or new bike day? - either way, thanks to the nice Riv folks
Definitely new bike day! The folks at Rivendell are amazing and really do what it takes to astound with great customer service. They recognize a potential problem in the frame and want to know what caused it so they can fix it. That's integrity. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Not my day
Way to soldier on! This is a story that will get better with each telling. -rcw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Son of More Entmoot
Brian - it was so wonderful to meet, re-meet, and re-connect with you and so many other famous names and faces last week! I had to scram out of town for my sister's wedding and so it all began to seem a bit like a dream... So, thanks for humoring my strong-arming you into the harlequin wrap demo. I got back from family festivities late last night to not only find my favorite pedals (Thin Gripster) missing (and on my wife's Cheviot which I'd swiped for the weekend), but my commuter RockCombo was bowdlerized and bar-less - a-ha, there's a half-wrapped bar if I ever saw one - so, it must all have really happened after all!!! I promise I'll git 'er finished, learning your technique/tips really helped. So many great people, bikes and stories. It was a perfect storm, with options and activities galore, just fill your plate and come back for more! Let's do it again next year? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 7/20/14, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: It took me a while to process the trip, and how much fun it was. Super relaxing time away with like-minded amazing folks! This group is really a great find! Special call-outs to the Portland and So-cal crew who shared the ride with me down to the Bay Area! It made the 20-hrs of driving really fly by. I hope Ryan had a good ride back to Michigan, as well! Photos are here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZDgzVm And writeup: http://stonehog.com/2014/07/20/entmoot/ Brian Hanson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not my day
Way to persevere! All days are good, some are also hard. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, July 21, 2014 3:37:54 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote: I suppose we have all had rides like this, and after two wonderful rides in the Adirondacks over the weekend, maybe I was due. This morning I headed out on the Saluki (Riv content) for a 25 mile loop that included a stop to visit a friend recovering from colin cancer and another at a farm stand for fresh corn for dinner. As soon as I started I realized the minimalist sneakers I was wearing and the White Ind Pedals with Bruce Gordon clips was a bad combination. My foot was sliding all over the pedal and by the time these low profile shoes made contact with the clips I was pushing with the back half of my arch. I've never really entirely warmed to the no clip option but ride them to give my foot some variety after surgery a couple of years ago. I decided to soldier on. As I headed down a steep slope on the aptly named Rollin Irish Rd. I tried to lift the chain onto the big ring. It wouldn't go and my foot couldn't stay with the spin going downhill. At the next top and first sign of shade, I stopped and adjusted the set screw on the FD. I had lots and lots of rolling terrain to go through and really wanted that ring to push on. However, I soon realized that I was now having trouble trimming the FD. No matter what I did it seemed to rub somewhere and the rattle which had developed between the steel bottle and cage made it harder to figure out. Onward I struggle down a beautiful dirt road. On the return trip the trim problem only seemed to get worse and my rhythm was completely off. On an up shift the chain now jumped across the 48 and wrapped around the crank arm. Looking straight down I suddenly realized that the FD had gotten knocked out of parallel. But as I sat back down I had the sensation that my saddle was loose and moving up down. I stood up and gave it a push. Just a bit of movement. Now five miles from home I had feet sliding around, a FD that wouldn't trim, a water bottle rattling, and a saddle bobbing. At about three miles I hit a mile of 8-9% grade that I usually climb in a 34/27 but with my saddle now quite loose and given how out of sync I was I tried to downshift to the little ring. The FD went across and into the fender while the chain ground against the parallelogram. Time to walk. At least at the top of that hill I had two miles of dirt road to coast down. Tomorrow is another day. Everything is fixable. Michael Westford, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Not my day
Time for a cold one. After a day like that, I want a shower a nap, then think about working on the bike. At least the problem(s) are diagnosed (sometimes half the battle). Good luck with the repairs. dougP On Monday, July 21, 2014 2:37:54 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: I suppose we have all had rides like this, and after two wonderful rides in the Adirondacks over the weekend, maybe I was due. This morning I headed out on the Saluki (Riv content) for a 25 mile loop that included a stop to visit a friend recovering from colin cancer and another at a farm stand for fresh corn for dinner. As soon as I started I realized the minimalist sneakers I was wearing and the White Ind Pedals with Bruce Gordon clips was a bad combination. My foot was sliding all over the pedal and by the time these low profile shoes made contact with the clips I was pushing with the back half of my arch. I've never really entirely warmed to the no clip option but ride them to give my foot some variety after surgery a couple of years ago. I decided to soldier on. As I headed down a steep slope on the aptly named Rollin Irish Rd. I tried to lift the chain onto the big ring. It wouldn't go and my foot couldn't stay with the spin going downhill. At the next top and first sign of shade, I stopped and adjusted the set screw on the FD. I had lots and lots of rolling terrain to go through and really wanted that ring to push on. However, I soon realized that I was now having trouble trimming the FD. No matter what I did it seemed to rub somewhere and the rattle which had developed between the steel bottle and cage made it harder to figure out. Onward I struggle down a beautiful dirt road. On the return trip the trim problem only seemed to get worse and my rhythm was completely off. On an up shift the chain now jumped across the 48 and wrapped around the crank arm. Looking straight down I suddenly realized that the FD had gotten knocked out of parallel. But as I sat back down I had the sensation that my saddle was loose and moving up down. I stood up and gave it a push. Just a bit of movement. Now five miles from home I had feet sliding around, a FD that wouldn't trim, a water bottle rattling, and a saddle bobbing. At about three miles I hit a mile of 8-9% grade that I usually climb in a 34/27 but with my saddle now quite loose and given how out of sync I was I tried to downshift to the little ring. The FD went across and into the fender while the chain ground against the parallelogram. Time to walk. At least at the top of that hill I had two miles of dirt road to coast down. Tomorrow is another day. Everything is fixable. Michael Westford, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
I've got no Cranial connections, but I know who does. I like the new 9/8 designation(---we can pronounce it design-ation), but we're sticking with the old standard 8/8, for the record. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: You're not grip-sniffing alone on this one, Sam - I was just ruminating on the very same topic this a.m. as I rode the train and stared vacantly at the headset of my Legolas! First, the RBW / Crane headset/spacer mount bell is a great item. It's not just another spacer with a thread added, but is machined (CNC'd?) from a larger solid piece. Meaning the base for the bell is better positioned and much less likely to strip out (as I've experienced w/ other's products). The Crane however is designed to work with either 1 (using an included shim) or 9/8 headsets. Standard Riv usage is as a 1 threaded steerer spacer, which presumes you have a tall-enough steerer (as all good Rivs should!). The Legolas is one of the exceptions available as 1 threadless, but it's the same situation- the oversize bell mount requires a shim. It looks a little wonky though, to stack 1 spacers above/below this larger alloy chunk (lovely chunk it is). My eye-easing remedy had been (reading from top-to-bottom), 1) 9/8 threadless cap, 2) a single thin 1 spacer, 3) Nitto TFL stem (9/8, and is on a reducer shim), 4) Crane bell mount (also on a shim, and its oversize-ness matches the 9/8 Nitto stem nicely), 5) 1 headset hanger (for cantilevers), 6) triple-1 spacers a la the Rivendell shot-glass, 7) 1 threadless headset top race. Problem is I've recently switched to a different hanger for my canti setup, rendering unnecessary the headset-hanger separator parked between the fat Crane and thinner shot-glass. I may try to find some thin 9/8 spacers and do a similar shotglass-over-a-shim, but I'll bet that will look wonky with the 1 top race. :-/ The Ideal Solution (maybe GP can turn some screws on Crane!?) would be for a similar style mount, but exclusively for 1! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 7/19/14, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the outer spacer mount diameter bulges out wider than the regular spacer diameters on 1 steerers, like the pic on the rivsite ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bellhed.htm) So I was wondering, does it stick out on yours, or is it just that way in that pic they have on the site? One of my favorite features of Riv bikes are the shot-glasses - the pretty stack of headset spacers. I don't want to ruin the line. Maybe I am just cork grip sniffing about this, but it's one of the things I find beautiful on these bikes. So just want to know how it really is so I can stop mulling and either get one, or wait until they start selling one with a uniform outer diameter for 1 spacers. Didn't they have one with an aluminum (silver colored) bell on it once? That would be a nice match for all the silver color on these bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Just fixed, or new bike day? - either way, thanks to the nice Riv folks
Definitely new bike day. Glad Riv took care of you...but of course no surprise. On Monday, July 21, 2014 3:24:43 PM UTC-5, John Stowe wrote: Back in May I was on a group ride with my toddler in the front seat of our Sam Hillborne when I got my first flat ever for that bike. Probably approaching 2000 miles on it, so not too bad, I thought. Walk to a bench, snack and sippy cup for the kid, get out the patch kit. As I pulled the frame pump out from between the double top tubes, though, I noticed a suspiciously rust-looking discoloration along the lug attaching the lower top tube to the seat tube. I'm perfectly comfortable doing my own maintenance, but frame issues are definitely above my pay grade - assuming that 1 1/2 top tubes would still be pretty good, I rode straight home and then the next day I took it by my LBS for diagnosis. I was hoping maybe there was just a gap in the paint that allowed water and then rust in, but the shop owner knew better what to look for and showed me that there actually was a crack, about halfway around the joint between the lug and the seat tube. Hard to say how long it was there, or took to develop - It was on the side I lean against the wall when I park it, and opposite the side I usually mount from, so it's not an area I looked at much. So it turns out the flat was a good thing. Once we got it cleaned up, I was able to get an OK picture or two (the little tab on the right is bent out a bit because we were picking at it trying to decide if it was a paint chip or metal). https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jyhjNqQpbFk/U81oZFxg80I/Bcg/M7i258IK7YY/s1600/DSC_0306.jpg I got the frame secondhand, so Rivendell had no particular obligation to me (I was concerned about spending that much on a frame at the time, so saving a couple hundred bucks helped make my decision to get a Riv), but I figured I'd give them a call for advice on how to go about getting my frame repaired. Keven told me that while it could be repaired, they were curious to know how/why it failed, and would like for it to go back to the factory for inspection. I'm on the large side at 220ish lb., and I do carry the baby and/or groceries on occasion, but most of my riding is relatively low-stress city riding and commuting, so overall I probably cause much less stress than the other bikes on this list that get to go on off-road adventures/Jamborees/Entmoots/S24Os on a regular basis happily endure. Plus, it had fairly low mileage compared to a typical steel frame's lifetime (it was secondhand, but unbuilt/ridden before me). Keven worked with me on a much-more-than-fair deal to swap the frame for a new one, which with the recent sizing change durned out to be a better fit for me - I was between the 56cm and 60cm in the old lineup, so the new 58cm is right on the money. The new frame was on its way to me within a week, and the next weekend I swapped out the parts and sent the cracked frame back in the same box. Aside from the bare cable runs being ever-so-slightly longer, it was a pretty smooth process. The teardown was a lot quicker than the buildup, as expected. I figured I'd put my GoPro (sadly, having such things appears to be necessary with so many grumpy drivers around) on the ceiling fan and see what the top of my head looks like when I'm working on my bikes: http://youtu.be/EgTIcVUVnkA It's been a while now, but I still want to publicly thank Keven/Riv for going much farther than necessary to make sure I was back on a complete, non-broken Rivendell when there was really no obligation to help me at all. My question for the group is: did I get a second new bike day, or just a fixed bike day? There wasn't a dramatic change in feel between the old and new bikes, though I'd say my position did feel slightly more sensible - which I guess is a sign of a closer fit between the frame and rider size. Regardless, my co-pilot and I have been enjoying the new 58cm frame this summer (This picture also should answer the question: what good are those giant Bosco Bullmoose bars, really? Getting around babies with giant heads, of course!): https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SzummpC179E/U81uEahzALI/Bcw/PYE4LnUrm0w/s1600/IMG_2496.jpg Two thoughts on shifting since moving to the new frame: 1. I had a bear of a time getting the front derailleur to shift properly when I swapped frames, especially into the smallest chainring (of a Sugino triple). I was using what I think is the same low-profile Shimano MTB derailleur that Riv sells, but I just couldn't get it to move in far enough, and anyway, when I mounted it as low/close as Shimano recommends, shifting to the big/big combination (48/32) would make the chain rub on the lever arm where the cable attaches - this must not be an issue on bikes with steeper seat tubes, because otherwise it seems like a silly fault to make it through the
[RBW] Re: Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
I'm going to machine my own double-bell spacer ring mount, to satisfy my hunkered hankering for a two-tone song I can plink out on a pair of Crane bells. It will either be in the shape of an ellipse (a four-arc approximation is all I can manage on my mill), or mostly circular, with minimally-extending fobs for the threaded bell shafts. There are various ways of changing the tone of a brass bell, it will be fun to experiment. If it works out, I'll post up a picture. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
Andrew, who do you think you are, Chris Chen? However, I am happy to help user test this for you! I am going to investigate cutting the mount off and threading the Big N' Loud Crane (M6?) ... so crazy it might just work. =- Joe On 7/21/14, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to machine my own double-bell spacer ring mount, to satisfy my hunkered hankering for a two-tone song I can plink out on a pair of Crane bells. It will either be in the shape of an ellipse (a four-arc approximation is all I can manage on my mill), or mostly circular, with minimally-extending fobs for the threaded bell shafts. There are various ways of changing the tone of a brass bell, it will be fun to experiment. If it works out, I'll post up a picture. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
I. Uh. DOUBLE DINGER On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, who do you think you are, Chris Chen? However, I am happy to help user test this for you! I am going to investigate cutting the mount off and threading the Big N' Loud Crane (M6?) ... so crazy it might just work. =- Joe On 7/21/14, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to machine my own double-bell spacer ring mount, to satisfy my hunkered hankering for a two-tone song I can plink out on a pair of Crane bells. It will either be in the shape of an ellipse (a four-arc approximation is all I can manage on my mill), or mostly circular, with minimally-extending fobs for the threaded bell shafts. There are various ways of changing the tone of a brass bell, it will be fun to experiment. If it works out, I'll post up a picture. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne Rohloff Conversion
i'm a little curious about this set up as well. i love my SO, but as we are wont to do, tinkering is never far from thought. though luckily my lacking wallet should keep my SO a 1x1 for the foreseeable future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers
Follow-up note: Per Mark at Riv, the Sugino spacers are .1mm. They also don't have any and have them on order from Sugino but it's going to be a month or so until they get them. So, if you have any kicking around that you don't want to use, let me know! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Paul's brakes on your Riv. Experience between models?
If you're going to the trouble of brazing on cantilever bosses, why not consider brazing on Racer bosses? They're the same exact bosses located differently. I guess you'll lock yourself into just one single type of brake and you'll need to buy the stainless sleeves, but I really like the Racer brakes and think they are a marvelous balance between power and control when used with Campagnolo Ergopower levers. I don't particularly believe cantilever and linear pull brakes are really that different (in power/modulation/control/etc) when the cantis are set up correctly, and especially if the cantis are used with the brake levers with the desired mechanical advantage (they all differ by a bit). True, it takes more effort to get the cantis working to my liking (versus the linear pull's no-brainer/non-adjustable setup) but that's also why I adjust for more leverage/less travel up front and less leverage/more travel in the back. This allows me to balance the front-rear power and affords me more tolerance for out-of-trueness in the rear wheel. But we're just nitpicking at this point. I actually find linear pull brakes somewhat of a hinderance when one is trying to use big tires and fenders because one can't adjust where the horizontal actuation cable is. My Surly for example has the cable/latch rubbing the top of the front fender because I'm running 2.0 Kojaks and thick plastic fenders. It doesn't impact braking performance but it's kinda annoying to have the brake mechanically scrap the top of the plastic fender every time I touch the front brake lever. This is with normal height linear-pull brakes so I'll imagine the shorter Mini Motos will be even more restricting. I'll admit it. I dislike the Neo Retro. They require brake levers with a higher mechanical advantage to work well because they don't have a lot of mechanical advantage themselves. Look at the curves on this for comparison and you'll see what I mean: http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/ In addition, they also stick out like sore thumbs. Used at the back, they've poked at my shoes occasionally. They do look very nice though, but that's essentially their only saving grace. On Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:20:10 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: So my curiosity has been peaked after a brief discussion on the trail with a guy about his Paul's mini motos. He was very impressed with them even having previously been using the neo retros on the same bike, a Rock Lobster cross. The claim was FAR more power and better modulation with all other variables consistent. Levers were cane creek. For some reason I lumped the Minis in with the touring cantis in that they were for more clearance, but not much different as to power. After some quick reading on the magic computer box, it seems this guy is not alone in his assessment. I am a big fan of cantilever style brakes. So much so, I decided to take the center mount racers off my Hilsen to have canti studs added. Plan was to swap the Racers for some Neo Retros...but now I'm wondering about the Mini Motos. Has anyone tried the Minis, or even better, both Minis and Neos?? For the record, I know I like the Neos , and the direct mount racers on my Rambler are awesome. And YES, I realize a set of xt v-brakes would deliver, but I don't like the aesthetic and don't want to change levers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Son of More Entmoot
Great write up and images as usual Brian! Love the one towards the end of the tail gate with the saddle bag's and Riv's hanging out... wonderful closing thought! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv headset spacer bell mount outside diameter in line with your spacers, or wider?
I did this once. Little bending, filing, and drilling. It wasn't too much work, and once set up I was very happy with it. The only tricky part was positioning the striker in the right spot. David On Monday, July 21, 2014 6:37:07 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, who do you think you are, Chris Chen? However, I am happy to help user test this for you! I am going to investigate cutting the mount off and threading the Big N' Loud Crane (M6?) ... so crazy it might just work. =- Joe On 7/21/14, BSWP asht...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'm going to machine my own double-bell spacer ring mount, to satisfy my hunkered hankering for a two-tone song I can plink out on a pair of Crane bells. It will either be in the shape of an ellipse (a four-arc approximation is all I can manage on my mill), or mostly circular, with minimally-extending fobs for the threaded bell shafts. There are various ways of changing the tone of a brass bell, it will be fun to experiment. If it works out, I'll post up a picture. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Paul's brakes on your Riv. Experience between models?
Thanks Michael. I've got the cable set up pretty close to the tire-a little less than an inch from the fender. They really are working fine. How does ones tell which direction is right on the springs, by the way? I AM easily confused. Best wishes, Christian On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:46:05 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: If the issue is power, instead of centering, rubbing, noise or stability, I would expect one of two causes. First, it may be a mismatch with the levers. I found that the Shimano SIS levers did not work well with any cantis. They just pull too much cable to get a good grip. Second, and here I'm guessing a bit because I have no experience with the touring cantis, only the noes, my intuition tells me I will get the most power when the cable is 90 degrees from the arms. On my neo retros that means I have a very hi and long straddle cable. The touring cantis, at 45 degrees would be much lower. The Paul site says this: We recommend running the Touring Canti with a lower straddle wire to maximize stopping power. Having the cable carrier between 1 inches and 2 above the tire is a good range. I suppose it could also be the pads or too little toe in that is compromising the power. I find setting up cantis is best with a lever that has a quick release, so they can be set pretty close to the rim and still allow easy wire removal. The Cane Creek and Tektro levers work great with these brakes. I also like to have an adjustable barrel on the cable and a good quality hanger, Paul's are nice to work with. To adjust them I simply unhook the straddle cable, put an allen wrench on the outside and move the 15mm adjusting bolt to the desired tension in the return spring. BTW, be careful when installing the springs, They go in one direction for cantis and the other for Cps. It's easy to get confused. Hope this helps. Michael On Monday, July 21, 2014 8:52:48 AM UTC-4, Christian wrote: Hi All, Many folks here note that they needed to do some fiddling with their Paul's to get them set up right. I'm curious what tricks people have used to get the best performance out of their Paul cantis? I have touring cantis and they're fine. Beautiful, of course, but performance wise they're not world changing. I gotta say, however, that the super cheap Deore V brakes on my LHT--pulled by mtn levers on albatross bars--work every bit as good if not better. Anyway, set up tips, tricks, etc would be good to know about. Thanks, Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Anyone using this iPhone mount on their Rivendell's quill stem?
Says the mount fits stem tubes 25-44mm wide. Nitto quills are 20. Was wondering if they actually fit the narrower Nittos. Thanks. http://www.quadlockcase.com/products/quad-lock-bar-mount-pro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What do Rivenell Riders use for iPhone mounts on their stems?
Just wondering if anything out there mounts on quill stems. What do you use? Pics are great. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Just fixed, or new bike day? - either way, thanks to the nice Riv folks
New bike day... Congrats and bravo to Riv for doing above and beyond! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
