[RBW] Re: Recommend R559 pads please
Kool stops are the only stop. http://www.blackmtncycles.com/2013/03/get-most-out-of-your-canit-brake.html On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 9:44:27 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: The standard black ones are bad in the wet. I found the red Yokozunas better, but not tons better. After sitting unridden for two weeks, they are now operating less effectively in the dry. Maybe they need a filing. Maybe the rims got dusty? I guess Koolstops are the next stop? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
thanks guys, that makes sense. john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem? On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Mark's/M18 failures?
Great On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Lungimsam wrote: How has your Marks or M18 front rack held up over the years? Do the tang bolts loosen, or has everything stayed put for you? . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Santa Monica mountain riding
Banging around those hills:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4456793002
And of course the payoff for making it back down to Santa Monica:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9992144054
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Patrick:
Thanks to local land conservancies, the Santa Monica mountains are NOT
filled in with housing tracts. Lots of excellent trails riding west of
Sepulveda. A wonderful source of information is Franko, as in:
http://frankosmaps.com/santa-monica-mountains-trail-map
Right now, there may be areas that are closed due to high fire hazard.
There are also areas reserved for hiking only, but there is plenty of room
as long as we respect one another's space. Enjoy!
dougP
On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:11:30 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
I was just talking to someone on the CR list about the area east roughly
of the Mulholland HW and Las Virgines road intersection, where 40 years ago
there were a number of winding, hilly, very well built canyon roads perfect
for energetic cycling.
Are any of y'all familiar with riding here? I suppose that in the last 40
years the entire landscape has been filled with tract housing.
My college, Thomas Aquinas, now just outside of Santa Paul, at the time
('73-'77) rented the ex-Claretian seminary occupying the lovely grounds of
the old Gillette mansion (I think it's now a state park). Across Las
Virgines was the old Fox Ranch (where I worked as a night watchman to keep
cows and vandals off the Swiss Fam Rob and Mash sets) and hit 70 mph on the
tiny, winding dirt tracks on Fox lot beaters at 3 am. (We destroyed many
vehicles that way -- great fun.)
Anyway. There was a coterie of roadies who would share these canyon roads
(Cold Canyon? Liberty Canyon?) with the choppers on weekends; an ex student
from TAC got into trouble by taking a brakeless track bike up into those
hills.*
I myself was then sans bike; I'd sold my 10 speed when returning to the
US, but I'd borrow bikes and ride the canyons -- great fun. I recall once
bombing down Mullholland Hwy on the other side of Las Virgines on the way
to the Woodland Hills shopping center, and being passed (after a long
pursuit) by a motor vehicle whose drive yelled, You hit 45!
At the Woodland Hills shopping center, along the Ventura Fwy, there as a
bike shop that had a very early CF bike in the window.
*Doug Gilles, whose family owned at the time a well known Santa Monica
bike shop -- Helen's? He was an ill fit at conservative Catholic TAC, with
shoulder length hair and Buddhist beliefs. One anecdote: the college, a
very small startup at the time, had its coterie of devotees of the more
marginal and exotic old fashioned Catholic cults. One Halloween Gilles went
around the dorm rooms dressed up as the Infant of Prague. He'd knock on
doors and say, Bless you my child and then hit the occupant on the head
with his scepter. Gilles was 6'3 and 300 lb at the time (he lost weight by
the time he had the track bike accident).
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[RBW] BoyzontheHoods Summer Skool Sessions #2 – Peninsula MTBrevet
Big group. 20+? All good variety of bikes These guys always plan the best route. Pretty much single track for 50% of the ride. Or at least it felt that way 3 flats 1 mechanic- - Broken Freewheel? How do you do that? 1 injured - Elbow scrappage. Jenny writes better. http://www.plattyjo.com/boyz-on-the-hoods-summer-skool-sessions-2-peninsula-mtbrevet/ Pictures proved that we all got rad. https://flic.kr/s/aHsketL6c2 Manny Did you see me hit that berm? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] BoyzontheHoods Summer Skool Sessions #2 – Peninsula MTBrevet
Cool, you guys came down to my neck of the woods. Hmm, what does it mean that I know *exactly* where almost every one of those shots was taken? How did you like the new John Nicholas trail? (That was the one after steep uphill Sanborn and the even steeper uphill fire road.) I love that trail. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Big group. 20+? All good variety of bikes These guys always plan the best route. Pretty much single track for 50% of the ride. Or at least it felt that way 3 flats 1 mechanic- - Broken Freewheel? How do you do that? 1 injured - Elbow scrappage. Jenny writes better. http://www.plattyjo.com/boyz-on-the-hoods-summer-skool-sessions-2-peninsula-mtbrevet/ Pictures proved that we all got rad. https://flic.kr/s/aHsketL6c2 Manny Did you see me hit that berm? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
I put my Mark's Rack on the Hilsen in 2008. Just removed it earlier this spring as I was moving things around and felt like it. It has never been anything other than rock solid. NItto Front on the QB - ditto. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS Deore Triple, Down Tube Bar End Shifters
Title says it, but I've got the following for sale, shipping included (to continental US) in listed prices: Deore Triple Crank w/ BioPace rings, still a whole lotta life left, 50, 44, 28 rings, 170 length: $55 Dura Ace 9 Speed Downtube shifters, lightly used: $55 8 speed Shimano (Ultegra I believe) BS 64 Barend shifters. some scruffs scrapes, but perform perfectly:$65 Suntour Power ratchet bar end shifters. Well used, work excellently: $55 Link to photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/ If you're interested, but hate the price, lemme know where I went wrong and we can make it work. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Tubus Tara on a Sam Hillborne?
+1 on touringstore.com. Email Wayne with your picture. He'll know what you need. Will On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 4:24:46 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Tubus sells aluminum billet clamps for fork legs drilled and threaded for lowriders. The Touring Store dot com has them. On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Jeff Lesperance jeff.le...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Prepping for an upcoming tour, I did a fully loaded day tour with all of my gear strapped fore and aft on my Sam, with a Tubus cargo rack carrying the load on the back, and an Old Man Mountain Sherpa handling the load on the front. I've since rediscovered my trusty old Tubus Tara that I had formerly mounted on my Long Haul Trucker. Thinking I'd like to test a lower carrying mode on the front, I attempted to mount that Tara on my Hillborne, and was reminded that the front mid-fork eyelets aren't exactly at standard low rider mount height. I flipped the top arms on the Tubus over, to move the eyelet tab from the bottom side to the top side of the arm, but bolting everything in that way still has the pannier rail sitting at less at a less than horizontal angle. 1. Has anyone come up with a hack to properly mount a Tubus Tara on a Sam? I'm considering cutting up some aluminum bar stock and drilling holes to attach to the fork eyelets and rack, or running to the hardware store to find a mending plate of appropriate dimension, to drop the rear pannier rail mount point lower. 2. Should I just not worry that the pannier rail is sitting at a forward downward pitched angle? Pannier seems to sit fine in my living room test. -Jeff Silver Spring, MD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Tubus Tara on a Sam Hillborne?
Thanks for the reminder about Wayne - the racks and my set of Ortleibs came from him a few years ago. On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on touringstore.com. Email Wayne with your picture. He'll know what you need. Will On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 4:24:46 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Tubus sells aluminum billet clamps for fork legs drilled and threaded for lowriders. The Touring Store dot com has them. On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Jeff Lesperance jeff.le...@gmail.com wrote: Prepping for an upcoming tour, I did a fully loaded day tour with all of my gear strapped fore and aft on my Sam, with a Tubus cargo rack carrying the load on the back, and an Old Man Mountain Sherpa handling the load on the front. I've since rediscovered my trusty old Tubus Tara that I had formerly mounted on my Long Haul Trucker. Thinking I'd like to test a lower carrying mode on the front, I attempted to mount that Tara on my Hillborne, and was reminded that the front mid-fork eyelets aren't exactly at standard low rider mount height. I flipped the top arms on the Tubus over, to move the eyelet tab from the bottom side to the top side of the arm, but bolting everything in that way still has the pannier rail sitting at less at a less than horizontal angle. 1. Has anyone come up with a hack to properly mount a Tubus Tara on a Sam? I'm considering cutting up some aluminum bar stock and drilling holes to attach to the fork eyelets and rack, or running to the hardware store to find a mending plate of appropriate dimension, to drop the rear pannier rail mount point lower. 2. Should I just not worry that the pannier rail is sitting at a forward downward pitched angle? Pannier seems to sit fine in my living room test. -Jeff Silver Spring, MD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.
Are you referring to this pdf ? It's current . http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 1:06:24 PM UTC-4, Johan Larsson wrote: There used to be a quite useful tool - Cantilever Geometry Visual Calculator - Mechanical Advantage in Terms of Yoke Height at http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/ , but unfortunately it's broken now because of some web server configuration or something. You could ask, nicely, on the blog for it to be fixed, I would love to have it functioning again. A link to a paper with nice graphs (screenshot attached) is to be found in the first paragraph on that page. Wide profiles canti brakes have very low mechanical advantage, and it doesn't vary much regarding to (useful) yoke heights. You might want to consider switching brakes to more effective low or medium profile cantilevers. For finding levers better matching those brakes, measure the distance from the center of where the lever turns (the fulcrum?) to where the wire is attached, and try to find a lever with a smaller distance. Johan Larsson, Sweden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
Drew I've got an 8 cm technomic if you'd like to start w/ something a bit cheaper; I'd sell for $35 shipped. (can be seen here https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/.) Best Eric Indpls On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 2:29:52 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: thanks guys, that makes sense. john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem? On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] stem for albastache help
With the albastache I am using a 7cm tallux - at first I thought it was crazy but went with the RBW recommendation. Works great. With albatross bars I usually use a 10cm. Dan On Jun 27, 2015, at 6:16 PM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bosco/Albatross Aluminum Vs Chromoly
I've used both versions of Alba..they feel the same to me. I've also ridden lots of Moustache bars and would agree that they have a stiffer feel, like the steering input from hands to contact patch is more direct. I suspect this is due more to shape/length than material: Albas are wider, with a long reach back to where your hands normally rest. The more space you have between the grip area and stem, the more likely you'll get some flex from that long lever. On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:37:05 AM UTC-7, john elliott wrote: I’m curious if the aluminum version of the bosco is slightly stiffer feeling than the cromoly bosco or if anyone has experience comparing the aluminum alba to the chromoly albatross bars in terms or stiffness or other factors. I have the chromoly albatross bars and before that I had the aluminum moustache bars. When I switched from moustache to alba I went from aluminum to chromoly and I do feel like the chromoly are a bit flexier. (but I know it’s tubing is slightly bigger sized too) and that may make the difference as opposed to the material change. I’m not at all worried about strength differences between these bars, but I liked the feel of the stiffness of the moustache….. Anyone have any thoughts on this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis
More of an event bike / camera bike. Noodles, triple, fenders dyno, this would double as an on road tourer with longer distances. My Bomba is perfect with the albatross but if I have to deal with head winds and 70 to 80 mile days I would rather have drop bar and 700x40-50's... It would be very close rack and design wise as my Bombadil just setup for longer distances. It will be the in-between of my AAH and Bombadil. I would then scale back the AHH a bit.. remove racks and fenders .. lower the bars about an inch below the seat and make it more of a go fast bike ... Now if I don't find the Atlantis .. the 69 AHH with canto's would do the job as an on road tour bike. Allow 700x40's with fenders and fill the bill nicely... it's what I'm currently looking at. Kelly On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 9:45:44 AM UTC-5, Abcyclehank wrote: Kelly, What kind of build do you plan for your future Atlantis among your other great bikes? Ryan Spring Lake, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Where you on River Road Thursday?
I think you are east coast, so probably not. Anyone with any suggestions for something great we might not think of on our own to do in Portland, please share. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
Drew, I went with the 8cm Tallux from Riv (http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/st1.htm). At the risk of sounding superficial, the decision was more aesthetic than functional. I thought about the dirt drop but I like, what I consider, the more iconic look of the tallux (my 11cm is the Technomic Deluxe which is very nice). I just like the look of that style of stem on the Hillborne much more than the dirt drop. Plus, I didn't foresee any situations where the pointy bit might cause a problem for me. Soon after buying the albastache cockpit, I shed the fenders and put Smart Sams on and have been hitting the trails a lot more often. I might have rethought the dirt drop for that but still don't foresee a problem with the tallux. Very pleased how it turned out. https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/19238298132/in/dateposted-public/ Enjoy the albastache! John On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:29:52 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: thanks guys, that makes sense. john, are you using an 8cm dirt drop or tallux stem? On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 6:16:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: ok. going to take the albastache plunge. what has been working well for me (though slightly less aggressive and comfortable climbing) are albatross bars with a 11cm tallux set at about saddle height. wondering what sort of stem i should pair with the albastache that will give a similar height and reach. dirt drop seems like the choice, but im not sure about the length. then again ive seen people use these with short traditional stems too. is there math that can be done, or is this more of a try it and see situation? THANKS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis
I've asked them about it and the cost 150 to 200 more to change it out doesn't sound to bad... I already have a 67 AHH and it's riding nice and a great bike... the Atlantis would allow 700x50's and that is huge for flexibility in the long run.. so I'm still holding out. On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 3:12:21 PM UTC-5, Tom Harrop wrote: Canti-Hilsen does sound like quite a bike. Are you going to ask Riv about it or are you thinking aftermarket mods? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis
Canti-Hilsen does sound like quite a bike. Are you going to ask Riv about it or are you thinking aftermarket mods? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Son Edelux II connection with SV-8 Dynamo hub
This is technically correct: all hubs generate AC power and the terminals are theoretically non-polarized. However, some hubs, like the Shimano, ground one of those terminals to the axle, and by extension, the frame, and therefore designate that terminal ground. Likewise, some headlights, like the Edelux, ground one of their terminals to the headlight shell (and therefore the frame of the bike, when mounted). By convention, the braided outer conductor of a coaxial wire is designated the ground, and Schmidt follows this convention. So it follows that the Edelux's braided wire is grounded to the bike's frame, and that the designation of hot and ground wires be used, even though the SP's hubs themselves are insulated from the axle, and by extension, the frame of the bike. If you were blind to the designation of hot and ground wires, and were running an Edelux off of a Shimano hub, you would have a 50% chance of wiring it backwards and shorting out the hub. Conventions, in general, are good to follow, even if they may not apply to a specific situation. Anton On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:42:51 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote: P.S. I checked with Shutter Precision tech support when I was tracking down a wiring issue, and they confirmed that the hub generates AC power. That means there is not hot or ground terminal, and it doesn't matter how you connect the wires. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:50 PM, David davidbo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r0OaPFwBHKg/VY9gJxxt3CI/AaI/ny2K9ma7wyc/s1600/IMG-20150627-00071.jpg Oh man, I seemed to have botched my hasty attempt at connecting my new Edelux light to my new SV-8 hub... both obtained from RBW a few weeks back. I'm hoping someone here on the group can advise. What I did right off the bat was clip off the two plugs that were pre-installed on the ends of the Edelux wire. I did that because the Edelux end plugs did not appear compatible with the the connector cap and cover that ultimately fits over the connection terminal of the SV-8. So now I have a single end of wire all frayed that really doesn't want to stay in the SV-8 connection terminal all that well. It the attached image, you see the connector cap and cover fitted onto the terminal, which snaps on and off. Anyone here have the same set-up, or any advice otherwise? Thanks for your time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Ortlieb, Tubus, Madden, BM
Jack -- sent you a pm. If like the top light if still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Where you on River Road Thursday?
Is that row river road in cottage grove area? If so, it was my cheviot and i wish u had stopped. Stayed at baker bay campground, rode ruth bascom path yesterday (how beautiful can a city be?). Headed off to portland for 4 nites. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bosco/Albatross Aluminum Vs Chromoly
I've had chromo and aluminum albatross bars. The only time I felt any real flex was under strenuous conditions with a somewhat heavy front load. I felt it on both bars, and likely could not distinguish the two. I agree with the previous assessment that the flex is due to the shape and hand position vs that of a mustache. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Recommend R559 pads please
Details details details ? What brakes ? What rims ? Are your brakes great in the dry ? Are you positive the brake is setup correctly ? Red/Salmon Yoko pads and KS Salmon are the same Matterhauser compound . If you want to try something altogether different, try SwissStop pads . These are not as ubiquitous as KS pads in the USA, you have to look around for the best prices . You want their black compound , it's all weather for Alu rims . Most people I have ran across that have used both prefer SS and say they work excellent in the rain too. Myself I don't find salmon KS appreciably better than the black in the wet, but much more prone to squealing . I've not used the SS yet , but they are on my acquisition list . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: stem for albastache help
to echo other comments here, i use 8cm for my albatrache, 10 or 11cm for my ablatross. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS Deore Triple, Down Tube Bar End Shifters
DA down tube shifters are sold. Here's what's left On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 10:53:01 AM UTC-4, EGNolan wrote: Title says it, but I've got the following for sale, shipping included (to continental US) in listed prices: Deore Triple Crank w/ BioPace rings, still a whole lotta life left, 50, 44, 28 rings, 170 length: $55 8 speed Shimano (Ultegra I believe) BS 64 Barend shifters. some scruffs scrapes, but perform perfectly:$65 Suntour Power ratchet bar end shifters. Well used, work excellently: $55 Link to photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/ If you're interested, but hate the price, lemme know where I went wrong and we can make it work. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?
I've never had any issues with light to heavy loads, though I did have someone from Rivendell see my Mark's rack with a basket and Shopsack with probably 5-10 lbs of stuff in it and they quickly came over and gave me an irish strap to put over the handlebars and through the rack to keep the rack upright in case the tange fails under the weight. I didn't ask too many questions but my guess is they've seen a rack or two fail and they were just being cautious. Now I use the irish strap every time I have something over 4 or 5 lbs on there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Where you on River Road Thursday?
On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Saw an orange Sam or Cheviot, not sure which. At least it looked like a Rivendell. Orange, looked like a Bronze colored headbadge. I was on my Bleriot and didn't stop to chat, though I should have. So if it was you let me know and let's do some Riv-riding! There are a lot of River Roads. Was there a particular one you were asking about? ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Where you on River Road Thursday?
If we would list our name and location, it would be easy to know which River Road was being discussed. Jason Cloutier Pawtucket, RI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis
Kelly, I have similar thoughts for my new Atlantis and am now almost certain I am keeping my Bombadil. My problem is the Atlantis is so much like my 72cm Custom Mark N with Cantis that it is hard to justify keeping both. Nice problem to have I guess. Do you still have a 68cm Quickbeam too? I have just under the wheel clearance I would like on the Nobilette as is and have considered a 650b conversion that so many others seem to be making, but at our size keeping everything 700c seems more logical. I will give you a heads up if I decide to move my 68cm Atlantis this fall. Sincerely, Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] BoyzontheHoods Summer Skool Sessions #2 – Peninsula MTBrevet
Second time riding it. Rode it a week after it opened the whole time I was smiling. Great both ways. I prefer the downhill, and it looks super groomed since I last rode it looking forward to riding it down soon. I'll let you know the next time I'm around your area. Manny On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 9:26:44 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Cool, you guys came down to my neck of the woods. Hmm, what does it mean that I know *exactly* where almost every one of those shots was taken? How did you like the new John Nicholas trail? (That was the one after steep uphill Sanborn and the even steeper uphill fire road.) I love that trail. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Big group. 20+? All good variety of bikes These guys always plan the best route. Pretty much single track for 50% of the ride. Or at least it felt that way 3 flats 1 mechanic- - Broken Freewheel? How do you do that? 1 injured - Elbow scrappage. Jenny writes better. http://www.plattyjo.com/boyz-on-the-hoods-summer-skool-sessions-2-peninsula-mtbrevet/ Pictures proved that we all got rad. https://flic.kr/s/aHsketL6c2 Manny Did you see me hit that berm? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis
Well I can take that 68 atlantis off your hands.. since is such a burden.. and only being 68cm it is rather small for you. :) No I sold my Quickbeam and my Ram... That sat and looked pretty instead of getting ridden. Tires and wheels look small enough on 700c and with the compass 700x38's out there I can't see any real reason :) On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 8:37:58 PM UTC-5, Abcyclehank wrote: Kelly, I have similar thoughts for my new Atlantis and am now almost certain I am keeping my Bombadil. My problem is the Atlantis is so much like my 72cm Custom Mark N with Cantis that it is hard to justify keeping both. Nice problem to have I guess. Do you still have a 68cm Quickbeam too? I have just under the wheel clearance I would like on the Nobilette as is and have considered a 650b conversion that so many others seem to be making, but at our size keeping everything 700c seems more logical. I will give you a heads up if I decide to move my 68cm Atlantis this fall. Sincerely, Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Sunday Morning Coffee
Quick coffee meet up in Georgetown this morning with Erl (Weth) was splendid. Getting to see his silver and blue Riv Road was a definite treat! Not a coffee outside brew-up but we did enjoy coffee (that was made indoors) out of doors... :) After our coffee and conversation we rode together up to Fletcher's Boat House on the CO before we had to go our separate ways. http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/06/sunday-morning-coffee.html https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y0zjHhnOiLc/VZBVX6n3w7I/IZY/R6-CXGVlvrA/s1600/DSC_5468.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays
Marc, How big of a cog do you use on your Hillborne? I have a 60cm Hillborne with the standard Suguino triple crankset and I believe a 34 or 36 largest rear cog, and I use standard length (114 links?) SRAM 8-speed chains. On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 7:18:01 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: I've had to add chainlinks to both the Hunq's and Hillborne's chains when I install new ones. The longer stays and larger cogs I use just won't work with the chains my LBS carries for the spandex hamsters in the area. Talk about fitting them in a bike box? My Hunq just* barely *fit in one of the gigantic boxes that Amtrak offers. I don't think the Appaloosa could come close. Marc On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 12:05:58 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: I believe in one of his Blug posts about the Mystery Bikes (which have chainstays in the 54 cm range), GP said they had to cobble together an extra-long chain out of extra links from a second chain. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Marchant-Shapiro *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:18 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Blug on long chainstays I had an '85 Trek 650. Stays for days. I'm scrounging for a photo right now, but I can't lay my hands on one. I do believe that with a wheelbase *that* long, there may have been some slight compromise in handling. But nothing significant. And it was a joy to ride with rear panniers mounted, especially with my enormous feet. ISTRC that one problem I ran into was finding sufficiently long chains when I ran it as a derailer setup (I ultimately settled on using a wheel with an AW 3-speed IG hub). On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 3:26:56 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Interesting post. I heard tell that Jobst would tell the builder, Don't cut anything off of the stays. At any rate, I *tend* to agree with Grant (don't know enough about frames to say with certainty), but my own experience, such as it is, makes me so tend. My 2 Riv Road customs have 44.5 cm stays -- measured to center of horizontals -- actually, I think Chauncey has added another cm or so to the rear: he's waiting for dropouts from England. At any rate, this is the same length as the massively long stays on the Fargo (where I can run 50s actual with PB 60s and an inch of air in between, all 'round). The point, and it's one Grant seems to have missed, is that * long stays do not -- *repeat, *DO NOT* -- *compromise quick handling.* I must clarify. My 2 Rivs turn in noticeably faster than did the Ram (that's one reason I sold the Ram, tho' the Ram was pleasant; just slightly slower that I wanted in a road bike). The customs, while being almost as stable as the Ram in the straight (almost: I think the heavier, larger wheels of the Ram affect things), they turn in with exquisite compliance: no hesitation at all, while not at all being twitchy. Quick but seamless. I'm sure that the short and light wheels affect this too, but on these 2 bikes Grant managed to capture what, for me at least, is a kind of ideal mix of steadiness and quickness -- and, back to the point: this is done despite what, by modern standards, are hugely long stays. (The Roadeo has 43 cm stays, IIRC.) -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please
