[RBW] What's in your garage?

[Fullylugged]

I feel so much better about my own "small" grouping of bikes, after seeing 
whole houses described by which bikes are in which room :)

In order of mileage on them:

52 cm  Blue Rambouillet, came built from RBW. I put a 50 chainring on, changed 
the wheels to a Rich built set of Phil/Velocity and upped the stock 32mm to 
37mm Panaracers.
54.5 cm '95 Blue (repainted now) Road. Frameset that I built up with Campy 
Veloce and converted to 650B with White Ind/Velocity wheels.
55 cm '84 TREK 660. Came as a partial bike. Replaced the Campy Victory drive 
side with Veloce double, Ultegra rear and 650B conversion with Suntour/Velocity 
wheels.

Waiting for a re-paint:  80s Nashbar Mark III (by Maruishi?). Came as a 650B 
conversion, took it apart to address the sweat caused surface rust. Need to 
find an affordable painter who actually replies to emails once in a while...

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Re: [RBW] Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[James Warren]

Especially when Redlands pizza and Hangar 24 await!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2015, at 10:43 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> 
> I recommend Jim W's Delivery Service for all your bicycle
> transportation needs along the West Coast!
> 
> Five star service!
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:41 PM, James Warren  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured
>> here:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157625850005210
>> 
>> The main scratch it has is just under the seat lug where the pump made
>> contact, but it's had few scratches otherwise, and no crashes or dents. I'll
>> post more frame-only photos later this weekend.
>> 
>> The sale is for frame, fork, headset, and BB. The BB is whatever length
>> works well on this frame with the Sugino XD crank (but the crank is not
>> included.) I love the Hillborne, and I'm selling this one, because I have
>> moved up to a larger size Hillborne frame. I purchased this frame new from
>> Rivendell in December of 2010.
>> 
>> $800 OBO includes a free delivery to buyers in CA. Around August 7, I'm
>> making a road trip from Los Angeles to Sonoma County, and my schedule is
>> flexible enough that I could make a detour to bring the frame to the buyer.
>> 
>> Thanks for looking and interested people can contact me at this e-mail off
>> of the forum. Priority given to CA buyers so I don't have to deal with
>> shipping. Also, if there is interest, I think I can include a Kalloy
>> seatpost. I'll confirm that Saturday.
>> 
>> -James W.
>> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

[Bill Lindsay]

BUMP!

I'm back from a nearly three week vacation in Europe.  I'll write a 
separate post on the various on-topic (and nearly on-topic) things I did.  
I still have all five of these bikes in various states of availability.  
Leet me know if you want to discuss any of them:

1.  Bombadil.  Deal pending with one lister.  A second lister has asked for 
2nd place, just in case
2.  Gunnar.  Available
3.  Black Mountain.  Available.  
4.  Paramountain.  Available
5.  Hilsen.  One lister has right of first refusal.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 12:24:58 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm at a very well-rounded ten, and I can justify having all of them, but 
> I am 100% capacity for what I can physically store (first-world problem). 
>  That said, there are other bikes on the incoming roadmap.  First off, I've 
> volunteered to be the Team Mechanic for the El Cerrito High School Mountain 
> Bike Racing Team.  I'm planning on having that be my main volunteer 
> activity for the entirety of my two kids' six-years at ECHS.  So, I'm going 
> to buy a regular 29er race-ish mountain bike.  Hydraulic disks, etc.  To 
> let that bike in, one bike needs to go.  I'm still thinking about getting a 
> Clem, and there are a couple other things that I might be tempted to do 
> moving forward.  So, I've got FIVE bikes that I could part with.  I'd be 
> happy to sell two and pull back the other three.  In no particular order
>
> 1. 56cm Orange Bombadil.  Bought off the peg from Riv in 2010.  Orange 
> powdercoated 2TT Bombadil.  Frame/Fork/Headset + matching powdercoated 
> 200mm Bullmoose bars for $1400.  Negotiable complete bike  PHOTO 
> 
>
> 2. 58cm Gunnar Crosshairs singlespeed.  I bought this last summer from off 
> the list.  I set it up as a really smart doublespeed.  I can change between 
> two gears with no brake adjustment.  Waterford built frameset, spec'd to 
> match a Riv in fit.  Frame/Fork/Wheelset $1000, negotiable complete bike 
> options.  PHOTO 
> 
>
> 3. 59cm Black Mountain Cycles Road.  Bought direct from Black Mountain 
> Cycles in 2012.  Intended to be my budget-Roadeo.  My intent was always to 
> use it as a budget prototype road bike for the next custom road bike I set 
> up.  I'm still focussing in on exactly what that custom will be, but I've 
> leaned what I need to learn from this fine bike.  $500 Frame/Fork/Headset. 
>  Negotiable complete bike.  PHOTO 
> 
>
> 4. 1987 22" Schwinn Paramountain Clem.  $800 complete.  If you are dying 
> to have a CLEM-like bike immediately and are dying to have me buy a real 
> CLEM, then you'll jump at this.  Includes the Mt Campee rack and basket and 
> the custom Ruthworks framebag.  I'll even throw in my custom handmade 
> corroplast prototype panniers.  PHOTO 
> 
>
> 5. 58cm A. Homer Hilsen.  Bought new from Riv in the winter of 2010/11. 
>  Ridden on numerous brevets.  Now it's become a platform for several of my 
> off-the-wall build configuration notions, as evidenced by it's current 
> setup as a 1x9 with an ultralight $900 wheelset.  Frame/fork/headset $1200. 
>  Complete bike negotiable.  PHOTO 
> 
>
> This is bad timing on my part because I'll be out of town for a while, but 
> I will bump this post in August.  Let me know if you want to talk.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

[Nick Ybarra]

 I'm very interested in the Hilsen, Bill! 

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Jim,
>
NIce bike!! Are the pictures taken from Palos Verdes? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[James Warren]

You bet!


On Aug 1, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado wrote:

> 
> 
> Jim,
> NIce bike!! Are the pictures taken from Palos Verdes? 
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[RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

[Bill Lindsay]

Howdy all.  I'm back from a ~3 week European vacation.  There was zero 
riding, so if you want ride reports, this is not your post.  

Who:  Me, my wife, my two kids (14 and 11) and my mom.  My mom obtained her 
very first passport for this trip, having never left North America (bless 
her heart)
Where:  San Francisco to London.  Rail from London to York.  Rail from York 
to Edinburgh.  Rail from Edinburgh to Inverness.  Caledonian Sleeper (rail) 
from Inverness to London.  Eurostar (rail) from London to Paris.  Eurostar 
back to London.  Return flight to SFO.  

Quick-hit highlights:  

Bicycle use in these towns:  Everyone everywhere rides normal basic 
sensible bikes to get around.  Helmet usage is ~10% amongst commuters.  
Traffic coexistence with bicycles was what I'd call "completely 
self-aware".  Cars are pushy and aggressive, to be sure.  Horns get used, 
but I got the vibe that even the most aggressive drivers were fully aware 
of the presence of cyclists.  It's not like the US where you fear you are 
going to get run over by a clueless or distracted driver and the driver 
will stand over your carcass saying, "he came out of nowhere!".  

Public bikes:  I was tempted to use both the Paris and London public bikes, 
but didn't.  We had to stick together as a group, and some of us were way 
too nervous.  The setups seemed super nice, very user friendly, and the 
usage levels (ridership) seemed excellent.  On my last stay in London, we 
were in the Islington neighborhood.  There was a huge array of public bikes 
in the residential area where our apartment was.  By about 9:15 AM they 
were all gone, presumably by work commuters.  These racks full of bikes are 
deployed around London at an average spacing of ~500m.  Incredible.  One 
night walking back from the Pub, there was a truck reloading the rack, 
balancing the fill-fraction of all the racks.  In touristy spots like 
Picadilly Circus, I saw a lot of overflow bikes being loaded into the 
trucks for load-balancing.  For two UK pounds you can take as many sub-30 
minute trips as you like for 24 hours.  Tell me a better way to explore a 
city for cheaper than that.  

Cycletouring:  I saw lots and lots of bikes being taken on cycletours.  
Almost all of them had the modified loop bars typical of European 
cycletouring bikes.  Most ran Ortlieb panniers.  The trains had these huge 
rectangular modules that you could lean 5 or 6 bikes into one module, and 
they'd load it on the train like a luggage cart.  There are some parking 
spots for bikes on trains, but it varies line-to-line.  The countryside was 
spectacular, especially up in Scotland.  I'm eager to return to the 
Highlands and explore the backroads.  Unbelievably beautiful country.  
Especially for us Californians who are surrounded by brown.  

Bike Shop fun:  A close friend owns a shop called Bicycle Heaven in Geneva, 
Illinois.  I was amused to find Cycle Heaven in York, bought a water 
bottle.  In Edinburgh I visited Ronde Cycles, a high-end road and cross 
shop with a built in espresso cafe.  They let (that's English for 'rent') 
nice road bikes, and the owner manager Nick was super friendly.  Very nice 
space in a terrific city.  I'd live in Edinburgh, no problem.  In Paris, I 
got a couple hours of free time and made it out on the Metro to Cycles Alex 
Singer.  I bought a jersey and a water bottle.  The shop had a "be right 
back" sign on the door when I got there.  After waiting for about 20 
minutes, the shopkeeper returned.  He'd been at the bar to watch the end of 
the Alpe d-Huez stage of the BORAF.  It was like going to church on some 
level.  I poked around their workshop briefly, but my darn phone was full, 
so I couldn't take a lot of pictures.  Also in Paris, I spent a half-day in 
the rain the Tulleries Garden watching the circuit portion of the final day 
of the BORAF (aka Tour de France).  That was a bucket list item and it was 
great.  In London, I visited the Rapha store, and bought a lightwieght 
merino sweater/LSjersey.  Having witnessed the end of the TDF/BORAF I felt 
a little bit less of a poseur buying a wool jersey with a team SKY logo on 
it.  I had a really nice chat with a couple of the staff members.  They 
reinforced that there is great riding up in the highlands.  

In total, I just barely got the lid off the places I visited, but had a 
great trip.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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RE: [RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

That sounds flat-out wonderful.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:44 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

Howdy all.  I'm back from a ~3 week European vacation.  There was zero riding, 
so if you want ride reports, this is not your post.

Who:  Me, my wife, my two kids (14 and 11) and my mom.  My mom obtained her 
very first passport for this trip, having never left North America (bless her 
heart)
Where:  San Francisco to London.  Rail from London to York.  Rail from York to 
Edinburgh.  Rail from Edinburgh to Inverness.  Caledonian Sleeper (rail) from 
Inverness to London.  Eurostar (rail) from London to Paris.  Eurostar back to 
London.  Return flight to SFO.

Quick-hit highlights:

Bicycle use in these towns:  Everyone everywhere rides normal basic sensible 
bikes to get around.  Helmet usage is ~10% amongst commuters.  Traffic 
coexistence with bicycles was what I'd call "completely self-aware".  Cars are 
pushy and aggressive, to be sure.  Horns get used, but I got the vibe that even 
the most aggressive drivers were fully aware of the presence of cyclists.  It's 
not like the US where you fear you are going to get run over by a clueless or 
distracted driver and the driver will stand over your carcass saying, "he came 
out of nowhere!".

Public bikes:  I was tempted to use both the Paris and London public bikes, but 
didn't.  We had to stick together as a group, and some of us were way too 
nervous.  The setups seemed super nice, very user friendly, and the usage 
levels (ridership) seemed excellent.  On my last stay in London, we were in the 
Islington neighborhood.  There was a huge array of public bikes in the 
residential area where our apartment was.  By about 9:15 AM they were all gone, 
presumably by work commuters.  These racks full of bikes are deployed around 
London at an average spacing of ~500m.  Incredible.  One night walking back 
from the Pub, there was a truck reloading the rack, balancing the fill-fraction 
of all the racks.  In touristy spots like Picadilly Circus, I saw a lot of 
overflow bikes being loaded into the trucks for load-balancing.  For two UK 
pounds you can take as many sub-30 minute trips as you like for 24 hours.  Tell 
me a better way to explore a city for cheaper than that.

Cycletouring:  I saw lots and lots of bikes being taken on cycletours.  Almost 
all of them had the modified loop bars typical of European cycletouring bikes.  
Most ran Ortlieb panniers.  The trains had these huge rectangular modules that 
you could lean 5 or 6 bikes into one module, and they'd load it on the train 
like a luggage cart.  There are some parking spots for bikes on trains, but it 
varies line-to-line.  The countryside was spectacular, especially up in 
Scotland.  I'm eager to return to the Highlands and explore the backroads.  
Unbelievably beautiful country.  Especially for us Californians who are 
surrounded by brown.

Bike Shop fun:  A close friend owns a shop called Bicycle Heaven in Geneva, 
Illinois.  I was amused to find Cycle Heaven in York, bought a water bottle.  
In Edinburgh I visited Ronde Cycles, a high-end road and cross shop with a 
built in espresso cafe.  They let (that's English for 'rent') nice road bikes, 
and the owner manager Nick was super friendly.  Very nice space in a terrific 
city.  I'd live in Edinburgh, no problem.  In Paris, I got a couple hours of 
free time and made it out on the Metro to Cycles Alex Singer.  I bought a 
jersey and a water bottle.  The shop had a "be right back" sign on the door 
when I got there.  After waiting for about 20 minutes, the shopkeeper returned. 
 He'd been at the bar to watch the end of the Alpe d-Huez stage of the BORAF.  
It was like going to church on some level.  I poked around their workshop 
briefly, but my darn phone was full, so I couldn't take a lot of pictures.  
Also in Paris, I spent a half-day in the rain the Tulleries Garden watching the 
circuit portion of the final day of the BORAF (aka Tour de France).  That was a 
bucket list item and it was great.  In London, I visited the Rapha store, and 
bought a lightwieght merino sweater/LSjersey.  Having witnessed the end of the 
TDF/BORAF I felt a little bit less of a poseur buying a wool jersey with a team 
SKY logo on it.  I had a really nice chat with a couple of the staff members.  
They reinforced that there is great riding up in the highlands.

In total, I just barely got the lid off the places I visited, but had a great 
trip.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

[Patrick Moore]

My sister who regularly visits Italy remarked on the number of well-dressed
professional women blithely riding in the midst of city traffic in heels
while talking on their cell phones. However inadvisable that may be, it
shows at least a traffic environment of which bicycles are fully accepted
part.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Howdy all.  I'm back from a ~3 week European vacation.  There was zero
> riding, so if you want ride reports, this is not your post.
>
> Who:  Me, my wife, my two kids (14 and 11) and my mom.  My mom obtained
> her very first passport for this trip, having never left North America
> (bless her heart)
> Where:  San Francisco to London.  Rail from London to York.  Rail from
> York to Edinburgh.  Rail from Edinburgh to Inverness.  Caledonian Sleeper
> (rail) from Inverness to London.  Eurostar (rail) from London to Paris.
> Eurostar back to London.  Return flight to SFO.
>
> Quick-hit highlights:
>
> Bicycle use in these towns:  Everyone everywhere rides normal basic
> sensible bikes to get around.  Helmet usage is ~10% amongst commuters.
> Traffic coexistence with bicycles was what I'd call "completely
> self-aware".  Cars are pushy and aggressive, to be sure.  Horns get used,
> but I got the vibe that even the most aggressive drivers were fully aware
> of the presence of cyclists.  It's not like the US where you fear you are
> going to get run over by a clueless or distracted driver and the driver
> will stand over your carcass saying, "he came out of nowhere!".
>
> Public bikes:  I was tempted to use both the Paris and London public
> bikes, but didn't.  We had to stick together as a group, and some of us
> were way too nervous.  The setups seemed super nice, very user friendly,
> and the usage levels (ridership) seemed excellent.  On my last stay in
> London, we were in the Islington neighborhood.  There was a huge array of
> public bikes in the residential area where our apartment was.  By about
> 9:15 AM they were all gone, presumably by work commuters.  These racks full
> of bikes are deployed around London at an average spacing of ~500m.
> Incredible.  One night walking back from the Pub, there was a truck
> reloading the rack, balancing the fill-fraction of all the racks.  In
> touristy spots like Picadilly Circus, I saw a lot of overflow bikes being
> loaded into the trucks for load-balancing.  For two UK pounds you can take
> as many sub-30 minute trips as you like for 24 hours.  Tell me a better way
> to explore a city for cheaper than that.
>
> Cycletouring:  I saw lots and lots of bikes being taken on cycletours.
> Almost all of them had the modified loop bars typical of European
> cycletouring bikes.  Most ran Ortlieb panniers.  The trains had these huge
> rectangular modules that you could lean 5 or 6 bikes into one module, and
> they'd load it on the train like a luggage cart.  There are some parking
> spots for bikes on trains, but it varies line-to-line.  The countryside was
> spectacular, especially up in Scotland.  I'm eager to return to the
> Highlands and explore the backroads.  Unbelievably beautiful country.
> Especially for us Californians who are surrounded by brown.
>
> Bike Shop fun:  A close friend owns a shop called Bicycle Heaven in
> Geneva, Illinois.  I was amused to find Cycle Heaven in York, bought a
> water bottle.  In Edinburgh I visited Ronde Cycles, a high-end road and
> cross shop with a built in espresso cafe.  They let (that's English for
> 'rent') nice road bikes, and the owner manager Nick was super friendly.
> Very nice space in a terrific city.  I'd live in Edinburgh, no problem.  In
> Paris, I got a couple hours of free time and made it out on the Metro to
> Cycles Alex Singer.  I bought a jersey and a water bottle.  The shop had a
> "be right back" sign on the door when I got there.  After waiting for about
> 20 minutes, the shopkeeper returned.  He'd been at the bar to watch the end
> of the Alpe d-Huez stage of the BORAF.  It was like going to church on some
> level.  I poked around their workshop briefly, but my darn phone was full,
> so I couldn't take a lot of pictures.  Also in Paris, I spent a half-day in
> the rain the Tulleries Garden watching the circuit portion of the final day
> of the BORAF (aka Tour de France).  That was a bucket list item and it was
> great.  In London, I visited the Rapha store, and bought a lightwieght
> merino sweater/LSjersey.  Having witnessed the end of the TDF/BORAF I felt
> a little bit less of a poseur buying a wool jersey with a team SKY logo on
> it.  I had a really nice chat with a couple of the staff members.  They
> reinforced that there is great riding up in the highlands.
>
> In total, I just barely got the lid off the places I visited, but had a
> great trip.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

[Bill Lindsay]

I didn't see any cyclists on their phones, but what they were doing was 
being done blithely, to be sure.  Regarding footwear, Europeans wear a lot 
nicer shoes than Americans.  I've resolved to respect myself more with my 
footwear.  

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 9:20:04 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> My sister who regularly visits Italy remarked on the number of 
> well-dressed professional women blithely riding in the midst of city 
> traffic in heels while talking on their cell phones. However inadvisable 
> that may be, it shows at least a traffic environment of which bicycles are 
> fully accepted part.
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> Howdy all.  I'm back from a ~3 week European vacation.  There was zero 
>> riding, so if you want ride reports, this is not your post.  
>>
>> Who:  Me, my wife, my two kids (14 and 11) and my mom.  My mom obtained 
>> her very first passport for this trip, having never left North America 
>> (bless her heart)
>> Where:  San Francisco to London.  Rail from London to York.  Rail from 
>> York to Edinburgh.  Rail from Edinburgh to Inverness.  Caledonian Sleeper 
>> (rail) from Inverness to London.  Eurostar (rail) from London to Paris.  
>> Eurostar back to London.  Return flight to SFO.  
>>
>> Quick-hit highlights:  
>>
>> Bicycle use in these towns:  Everyone everywhere rides normal basic 
>> sensible bikes to get around.  Helmet usage is ~10% amongst commuters.  
>> Traffic coexistence with bicycles was what I'd call "completely 
>> self-aware".  Cars are pushy and aggressive, to be sure.  Horns get used, 
>> but I got the vibe that even the most aggressive drivers were fully aware 
>> of the presence of cyclists.  It's not like the US where you fear you are 
>> going to get run over by a clueless or distracted driver and the driver 
>> will stand over your carcass saying, "he came out of nowhere!".  
>>
>> Public bikes:  I was tempted to use both the Paris and London public 
>> bikes, but didn't.  We had to stick together as a group, and some of us 
>> were way too nervous.  The setups seemed super nice, very user friendly, 
>> and the usage levels (ridership) seemed excellent.  On my last stay in 
>> London, we were in the Islington neighborhood.  There was a huge array of 
>> public bikes in the residential area where our apartment was.  By about 
>> 9:15 AM they were all gone, presumably by work commuters.  These racks full 
>> of bikes are deployed around London at an average spacing of ~500m.  
>> Incredible.  One night walking back from the Pub, there was a truck 
>> reloading the rack, balancing the fill-fraction of all the racks.  In 
>> touristy spots like Picadilly Circus, I saw a lot of overflow bikes being 
>> loaded into the trucks for load-balancing.  For two UK pounds you can take 
>> as many sub-30 minute trips as you like for 24 hours.  Tell me a better way 
>> to explore a city for cheaper than that.  
>>
>> Cycletouring:  I saw lots and lots of bikes being taken on cycletours.  
>> Almost all of them had the modified loop bars typical of European 
>> cycletouring bikes.  Most ran Ortlieb panniers.  The trains had these huge 
>> rectangular modules that you could lean 5 or 6 bikes into one module, and 
>> they'd load it on the train like a luggage cart.  There are some parking 
>> spots for bikes on trains, but it varies line-to-line.  The countryside was 
>> spectacular, especially up in Scotland.  I'm eager to return to the 
>> Highlands and explore the backroads.  Unbelievably beautiful country.  
>> Especially for us Californians who are surrounded by brown.  
>>
>> Bike Shop fun:  A close friend owns a shop called Bicycle Heaven in 
>> Geneva, Illinois.  I was amused to find Cycle Heaven in York, bought a 
>> water bottle.  In Edinburgh I visited Ronde Cycles, a high-end road and 
>> cross shop with a built in espresso cafe.  They let (that's English for 
>> 'rent') nice road bikes, and the owner manager Nick was super friendly.  
>> Very nice space in a terrific city.  I'd live in Edinburgh, no problem.  In 
>> Paris, I got a couple hours of free time and made it out on the Metro to 
>> Cycles Alex Singer.  I bought a jersey and a water bottle.  The shop had a 
>> "be right back" sign on the door when I got there.  After waiting for about 
>> 20 minutes, the shopkeeper returned.  He'd been at the bar to watch the end 
>> of the Alpe d-Huez stage of the BORAF.  It was like going to church on some 
>> level.  I poked around their workshop briefly, but my darn phone was full, 
>> so I couldn't take a lot of pictures.  Also in Paris, I spent a half-day in 
>> the rain the Tulleries Garden watching the circuit portion of the final day 
>> of the BORAF (aka Tour de France).  That was a bucket list item and it was 
>> great.  In London, I visited the Rapha store, and bought a lightwieght 
>> merino sweater/LSjersey.  Having witnessed the end of the TDF/BORAF I felt 
>> a little bit less of a poseur buying a wool

[RBW] Re: Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[dougP]

Isn't that David's size?  He really, really needs an orange, geared 
Rivendell.  

dougP

On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 7:41:30 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured 
> here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157625850005210
>
> The main scratch it has is just under the seat lug where the pump made 
> contact, but it's had few scratches otherwise, and no crashes or dents. 
> I'll post more frame-only photos later this weekend.
>
> The sale is for frame, fork, headset, and BB. The BB is whatever length 
> works well on this frame with the Sugino XD crank (but the crank is not 
> included.) I love the Hillborne, and I'm selling this one, because I have 
> moved up to a larger size Hillborne frame. I purchased this frame new from 
> Rivendell in December of 2010.
>
> $800 OBO includes a free delivery to buyers in CA. Around August 7, I'm 
> making a road trip from Los Angeles to Sonoma County, and my schedule is 
> flexible enough that I could make a detour to bring the frame to the buyer.
>
> Thanks for looking and interested people can contact me at this e-mail off 
> of the forum. Priority given to CA buyers so I don't have to deal with 
> shipping. Also, if there is interest, I think I can include a Kalloy 
> seatpost. I'll confirm that Saturday.
>
> -James W.
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[James Warren]

It fits like a 63.5. 6 degree slope.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Isn't that David's size?  He really, really needs an orange, geared 
> Rivendell.  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 7:41:30 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>> 
>> The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured 
>> here:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157625850005210
>> 
>> The main scratch it has is just under the seat lug where the pump made 
>> contact, but it's had few scratches otherwise, and no crashes or dents. I'll 
>> post more frame-only photos later this weekend.
>> 
>> The sale is for frame, fork, headset, and BB. The BB is whatever length 
>> works well on this frame with the Sugino XD crank (but the crank is not 
>> included.) I love the Hillborne, and I'm selling this one, because I have 
>> moved up to a larger size Hillborne frame. I purchased this frame new from 
>> Rivendell in December of 2010.
>> 
>> $800 OBO includes a free delivery to buyers in CA. Around August 7, I'm 
>> making a road trip from Los Angeles to Sonoma County, and my schedule is 
>> flexible enough that I could make a detour to bring the frame to the buyer.
>> 
>> Thanks for looking and interested people can contact me at this e-mail off 
>> of the forum. Priority given to CA buyers so I don't have to deal with 
>> shipping. Also, if there is interest, I think I can include a Kalloy 
>> seatpost. I'll confirm that Saturday.
>> 
>> -James W.
>> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] What's in your garage?

[Lynne Fitz]

What we have:

Spouse
Old (late 80's? early 90's) Mongoose mountain frame, set up as a commuter, with 
racks, fenders, slicks, and those cool big loop Scott handlebars
Giant OCR C2
Custom Bike Friday he bought from a friend.  Currently in its suitcase

Me
2003 Lemond Zurich WSD.  700c Just had the bars raised via a stem riser, so 
we'll see if we are friends again.  Fenders? Lights? Rack?  haha
Bleriot w/S&S couplers, fenders, racks, generator hub and lights.  650B. It was 
my rando bike for several years, which is why it is the best local trips bike 
ever.  After the left hook crash, rebuilt from the couplers forward, plus a 
Saluki fork, repainted close to Hilsen blue.
Custom Sweetpea w/S&S couplers, fenders, front rack, generator hub and lights. 
650B  The rando bike.
Offsite (kidnapped by daughter) 1971 Gitane TdF Professional, rebuilt by me; 
new crank, new rear wheel, new brakes.  Rear rack and fenders.  Kept the 
exceptionally cool Simplex downtube shifters and derailleurs.  Borrowed it back 
while Bleriot was in hospital, borrowed a friends 700c generator wheel, swapped 
out the pedals for clipless, and commuted on it for several months.  Nice ride.

While I am occasionally bit by new bike hunger (who WOULDN'T want a custom 
Thompson?), I find it very difficult to form a narrative (thank you Franklyn!) 
about where that bike would fit in my usage pattern/bike collection.

Here they are.  Lots of pics, but only 4 unique bikes. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157656648672161

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

[Bill Lindsay]

Deals pending on bikes 1,3 and 5.  No bites on bikes 2 or 4.  

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 6:56:45 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> BUMP!
>
> I'm back from a nearly three week vacation in Europe.  I'll write a 
> separate post on the various on-topic (and nearly on-topic) things I did.  
> I still have all five of these bikes in various states of availability.  
> Leet me know if you want to discuss any of them:
>
> 1.  Bombadil.  Deal pending with one lister.  A second lister has asked 
> for 2nd place, just in case
> 2.  Gunnar.  Available
> 3.  Black Mountain.  Available.  
> 4.  Paramountain.  Available
> 5.  Hilsen.  One lister has right of first refusal.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 12:24:58 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I'm at a very well-rounded ten, and I can justify having all of them, but 
>> I am 100% capacity for what I can physically store (first-world problem). 
>>  That said, there are other bikes on the incoming roadmap.  First off, I've 
>> volunteered to be the Team Mechanic for the El Cerrito High School Mountain 
>> Bike Racing Team.  I'm planning on having that be my main volunteer 
>> activity for the entirety of my two kids' six-years at ECHS.  So, I'm going 
>> to buy a regular 29er race-ish mountain bike.  Hydraulic disks, etc.  To 
>> let that bike in, one bike needs to go.  I'm still thinking about getting a 
>> Clem, and there are a couple other things that I might be tempted to do 
>> moving forward.  So, I've got FIVE bikes that I could part with.  I'd be 
>> happy to sell two and pull back the other three.  In no particular order
>>
>> 1. 56cm Orange Bombadil.  Bought off the peg from Riv in 2010.  Orange 
>> powdercoated 2TT Bombadil.  Frame/Fork/Headset + matching powdercoated 
>> 200mm Bullmoose bars for $1400.  Negotiable complete bike  PHOTO 
>> 
>>
>> 2. 58cm Gunnar Crosshairs singlespeed.  I bought this last summer from 
>> off the list.  I set it up as a really smart doublespeed.  I can change 
>> between two gears with no brake adjustment.  Waterford built frameset, 
>> spec'd to match a Riv in fit.  Frame/Fork/Wheelset $1000, negotiable 
>> complete bike options.  PHOTO 
>> 
>>
>> 3. 59cm Black Mountain Cycles Road.  Bought direct from Black Mountain 
>> Cycles in 2012.  Intended to be my budget-Roadeo.  My intent was always to 
>> use it as a budget prototype road bike for the next custom road bike I set 
>> up.  I'm still focussing in on exactly what that custom will be, but I've 
>> leaned what I need to learn from this fine bike.  $500 Frame/Fork/Headset. 
>>  Negotiable complete bike.  PHOTO 
>> 
>>
>> 4. 1987 22" Schwinn Paramountain Clem.  $800 complete.  If you are dying 
>> to have a CLEM-like bike immediately and are dying to have me buy a real 
>> CLEM, then you'll jump at this.  Includes the Mt Campee rack and basket and 
>> the custom Ruthworks framebag.  I'll even throw in my custom handmade 
>> corroplast prototype panniers.  PHOTO 
>> 
>>
>> 5. 58cm A. Homer Hilsen.  Bought new from Riv in the winter of 2010/11. 
>>  Ridden on numerous brevets.  Now it's become a platform for several of my 
>> off-the-wall build configuration notions, as evidenced by it's current 
>> setup as a 1x9 with an ultralight $900 wheelset.  Frame/fork/headset $1200. 
>>  Complete bike negotiable.  PHOTO 
>> 
>>
>> This is bad timing on my part because I'll be out of town for a while, 
>> but I will bump this post in August.  Let me know if you want to talk.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[cyclotourist]

Yeah, I've already tried it on for size, but thank, Doug! :-)

Now if it was a single top-tubed 56 with cantis...

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:54 AM, James Warren  wrote:
> It fits like a 63.5. 6 degree slope.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, dougP  wrote:
>
> Isn't that David's size?  He really, really needs an orange, geared
> Rivendell.
>
> dougP
>
> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 7:41:30 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured
>> here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157625850005210
>>
>> The main scratch it has is just under the seat lug where the pump made
>> contact, but it's had few scratches otherwise, and no crashes or dents. I'll
>> post more frame-only photos later this weekend.
>>
>> The sale is for frame, fork, headset, and BB. The BB is whatever length
>> works well on this frame with the Sugino XD crank (but the crank is not
>> included.) I love the Hillborne, and I'm selling this one, because I have
>> moved up to a larger size Hillborne frame. I purchased this frame new from
>> Rivendell in December of 2010.
>>
>> $800 OBO includes a free delivery to buyers in CA. Around August 7, I'm
>> making a road trip from Los Angeles to Sonoma County, and my schedule is
>> flexible enough that I could make a detour to bring the frame to the buyer.
>>
>> Thanks for looking and interested people can contact me at this e-mail off
>> of the forum. Priority given to CA buyers so I don't have to deal with
>> shipping. Also, if there is interest, I think I can include a Kalloy
>> seatpost. I'll confirm that Saturday.
>>
>> -James W.
>> Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[James Warren]

2TT

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Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2015, at 12:37 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I've already tried it on for size, but thank, Doug! :-)
> 
> Now if it was a single top-tubed 56 with cantis...
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:54 AM, James Warren  
>> wrote:
>> It fits like a 63.5. 6 degree slope.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, dougP  wrote:
>> 
>> Isn't that David's size?  He really, really needs an orange, geared
>> Rivendell.
>> 
>> dougP
>> 
>>> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 7:41:30 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The orange, single TT, 60 cm frame as part of a complete bike is pictured
>>> here:
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157625850005210
>>> 
>>> The main scratch it has is just under the seat lug where the pump made
>>> contact, but it's had few scratches otherwise, and no crashes or dents. I'll
>>> post more frame-only photos later this weekend.
>>> 
>>> The sale is for frame, fork, headset, and BB. The BB is whatever length
>>> works well on this frame with the Sugino XD crank (but the crank is not
>>> included.) I love the Hillborne, and I'm selling this one, because I have
>>> moved up to a larger size Hillborne frame. I purchased this frame new from
>>> Rivendell in December of 2010.
>>> 
>>> $800 OBO includes a free delivery to buyers in CA. Around August 7, I'm
>>> making a road trip from Los Angeles to Sonoma County, and my schedule is
>>> flexible enough that I could make a detour to bring the frame to the buyer.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for looking and interested people can contact me at this e-mail off
>>> of the forum. Priority given to CA buyers so I don't have to deal with
>>> shipping. Also, if there is interest, I think I can include a Kalloy
>>> seatpost. I'll confirm that Saturday.
>>> 
>>> -James W.
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>> 
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[RBW] What's in your garage?

[Richard]

1981 Miyata LT1000 27"
2011 Boulder Road Sport 700c
2012 L'Avecaise 650B
2011 Rivendell Homer Hilsen 700c

My primary ride is the L'Avecaise. Fitted with 42mm tires, its cycling heaven.

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Re: [RBW] What's in your garage?

[Patrick Moore]

Lynne: what is the bar on the Sweetpea? (That's the pink one, right?) Midge?

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Lynne Fitz  wrote:

> What we have:
>
> Spouse
> Old (late 80's? early 90's) Mongoose mountain frame, set up as a commuter,
> with racks, fenders, slicks, and those cool big loop Scott handlebars
> Giant OCR C2
> Custom Bike Friday he bought from a friend.  Currently in its suitcase
>
> Me
> 2003 Lemond Zurich WSD.  700c Just had the bars raised via a stem riser,
> so we'll see if we are friends again.  Fenders? Lights? Rack?  haha
> Bleriot w/S&S couplers, fenders, racks, generator hub and lights.  650B.
> It was my rando bike for several years, which is why it is the best local
> trips bike ever.  After the left hook crash, rebuilt from the couplers
> forward, plus a Saluki fork, repainted close to Hilsen blue.
> Custom Sweetpea w/S&S couplers, fenders, front rack, generator hub and
> lights. 650B  The rando bike.
> Offsite (kidnapped by daughter) 1971 Gitane TdF Professional, rebuilt by
> me; new crank, new rear wheel, new brakes.  Rear rack and fenders.  Kept
> the exceptionally cool Simplex downtube shifters and derailleurs.  Borrowed
> it back while Bleriot was in hospital, borrowed a friends 700c generator
> wheel, swapped out the pedals for clipless, and commuted on it for several
> months.  Nice ride.
>
> While I am occasionally bit by new bike hunger (who WOULDN'T want a custom
> Thompson?), I find it very difficult to form a narrative (thank you
> Franklyn!) about where that bike would fit in my usage pattern/bike
> collection.
>
> Here they are.  Lots of pics, but only 4 unique bikes.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157656648672161
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 cm Sam Hillborne

[Lungimsam]

Blue 52s were made, too, if that's a possibility.

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[RBW] Does anyone have experience with Troy Designs cycling shorts?

[Patrick Moore]

Killing time at Fat Tire Bicycles this morning, I saw this marque for the
first time. Lightweight, stretchy synthetic (possibly syntho-cotton mix),
trim cut, *no effing padding!, *and a modestly conservative design in black
-- just-above-knee length, waistband, zipper, side pockets and rear
pockets. They look like snug street shorts in stretchy fabric.

Can anyone tell me if these are worth the $65 retail price?

Patrick Moore, who so far has been perfectly comfortable in cut-off khakis,
but they get dirty quickly.

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[RBW] Re: Does anyone have experience with Troy Designs cycling shorts?

[Patrick Moore]

Sorry, forgot to post a link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V09RHBU/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2/178-6081070-0605243?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_r=1CXW23JNACVNSXA0Z95M&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=1944687562&pf_rd_i=B00AC91BSE

This isn't exactly what I saw at Fat Tire, but it's close.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Killing time at Fat Tire Bicycles this morning, I saw this marque for the
> first time. Lightweight, stretchy synthetic (possibly syntho-cotton mix),
> trim cut, *no effing padding!, *and a modestly conservative design in
> black -- just-above-knee length, waistband, zipper, side pockets and rear
> pockets. They look like snug street shorts in stretchy fabric.
>
> Can anyone tell me if these are worth the $65 retail price?
>
> Patrick Moore, who so far has been perfectly comfortable in cut-off
> khakis, but they get dirty quickly.
>
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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

o-lite.com.tw
Road hubs: QL-ZL7R look the closest - 6 pawls, etc. , just not enough holes in 
the flanges.
I have ordered a set of the Silver from Rivendell.
David

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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[Garth]

 David,  When you get them can you please post if the CS body is steel or 
aluminum ?


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> o-lite.com.tw 
> Road hubs: QL-ZL7R look the closest - 6 pawls, etc. , just not enough 
> holes in the flanges. 
> I have ordered a set of the Silver from Rivendell. 
> David

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[RBW] PLETCSCHER REAR RACK MOUSE TRAP

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

AKA "Jaws"
I went on a 30+ mile ride on dirt, washboard trail ,with a 4+lb. Kryptonite 
New Yorker U-lock  in the clamp of the rack.
Never heard a rattle nor did the lock slip from the grasp of the clamp.
Very pleased!

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[RBW] Re: PLETCSCHER REAR RACK MOUSE TRAP

[Wayne Naha]

Cool!  Glad to read a good report of this item.  Thinking about purchasing 
one.

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 5:40:16 PM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman in the 
foothills of Colorado wrote:
>
> AKA "Jaws"
> I went on a 30+ mile ride on dirt, washboard trail ,with a 4+lb. 
> Kryptonite New Yorker U-lock  in the clamp of the rack.
> Never heard a rattle nor did the lock slip from the grasp of the clamp.
> Very pleased!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] What's in your garage?

['clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Your Sweet Pea is very cool. 
Clayton 


 On Saturday, August 1, 2015 11:29 AM, Lynne Fitz  
wrote:
   

 What we have:

Spouse
Old (late 80's? early 90's) Mongoose mountain frame, set up as a commuter, with 
racks, fenders, slicks, and those cool big loop Scott handlebars
Giant OCR C2
Custom Bike Friday he bought from a friend.  Currently in its suitcase

Me
2003 Lemond Zurich WSD.  700c Just had the bars raised via a stem riser, so 
we'll see if we are friends again.  Fenders? Lights? Rack?  haha
Bleriot w/S&S couplers, fenders, racks, generator hub and lights.  650B. It was 
my rando bike for several years, which is why it is the best local trips bike 
ever.  After the left hook crash, rebuilt from the couplers forward, plus a 
Saluki fork, repainted close to Hilsen blue.
Custom Sweetpea w/S&S couplers, fenders, front rack, generator hub and lights. 
650B  The rando bike.
Offsite (kidnapped by daughter) 1971 Gitane TdF Professional, rebuilt by me; 
new crank, new rear wheel, new brakes.  Rear rack and fenders.  Kept the 
exceptionally cool Simplex downtube shifters and derailleurs.  Borrowed it back 
while Bleriot was in hospital, borrowed a friends 700c generator wheel, swapped 
out the pedals for clipless, and commuted on it for several months.  Nice ride.

While I am occasionally bit by new bike hunger (who WOULDN'T want a custom 
Thompson?), I find it very difficult to form a narrative (thank you Franklyn!) 
about where that bike would fit in my usage pattern/bike collection.

Here they are.  Lots of pics, but only 4 unique bikes. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157656648672161

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[RBW] Hillborne Frameset for Sale for California Buyers - free delivery - 60 cm, Single TT

[Edwin W]

What's the stem on there? I have the same bike, in its "noodle year," but I 
think I'll switch back to albas next year. I like that look. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: PLETCSCHER REAR RACK MOUSE TRAP

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

>
> The "U" part of the lock just fits between the side rails of the rack 
>> which helps keep it in place while riding.
>>
> Jon 

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Dbl Crank - Chain Rub Issue

[Dave Johnston]

That is the cross-chain audible warning mode. It is a feature.

What size BB are you using and is the rear spacing 130mm or 135mm. I have 
not experienced this on the 3 double setups I'm using. 43/29, 40/26, an 
42/28

-Dave

On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:53:00 AM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> Installed the Sugino Wide/Low double Crank (40/26).  Still in repair 
> stand.  9 Speed.  Cassette is 11/34.  When the chain is in the small ring 
> up front and the small ring in the back (yes, I realize that this might not 
> be a good gear combination to ride in), the chain is making contact with 
> the inside of the big ring.  To clarify, the chain is NOT coming in contact 
> with the FD, but the inside portion of the big chain ring.
>
> Does this mean that I need a BB that is more wide?  Or does this mean that 
> I should never have the chain in that combination?  Or ???  Any help 
> appreciated.
>
> Bike is a 59 Soma San Marcos.
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Re: [RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

[murphyjrfk]

That sounds like a top notch vacation. Great for you. Funny you mention the 
shoes- my dearest friend-who is as well traveled as it gets- and not 
American-said you can always spot an American by their shoes. Always. 

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Re: [RBW] European Vacation (tangential Riv-content)

[dougP]

Maybe because we (as a culture) walk so little we can get by with crappy 
shoes?  

dougP

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> That sounds like a top notch vacation. Great for you. Funny you mention 
> the shoes- my dearest friend-who is as well traveled as it gets- and not 
> American-said you can always spot an American by their shoes. Always. 

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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[Don Compton]

I am just a recreational, club rider, but I have fallen to the Riv 
philosophy regarding geo and fit. I have many bikes but my current rides 
are a Roadeo with the new Shimano Ultregra 11sp gruppo( 50-34 crank with 
11-32 cassette), and a Hampsten Tournesol steel frame with Campy Record 
10sp. Both bikes are my favorites. I love steel bikes with room for large 
tires.

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:25:31 PM UTC-7, murphyjrfk wrote:
>
> I always wonder-i betcha there are a lot of cool bikes around. And right 
> now I have a lot of bikes. I feel a bit self indulgent but I don't feel too 
> bad when I think of the use. I have a pretty "bikey" family, a "bike" job 
> and live in a great city to ride bikes in. I don't drive much either-like 
> under 2k miles a year so that makes me feel even less guilty. But i'll 
> start in order of importance.-well at least my order. 
>
> 51 sage green Sam. Best bike ever. Get's used every day. 
> 54 orange quickbeam. Super duper fun. 
> Cannondale Adventure 2 step through hybrid. Permanent baby seat gets used 
> a lot. 
> Electra Townie 7d. My wife's ride which is super fun. 
> 1969 Schwinn Twinn-which my oldest daughter (8) thinks is the coolest bike 
> ever. Mostly because she doesn't have to pedal. And it has baskets for all 
> her dolls. 
> Jamis Capri 24 that's my oldest daughters ride. Fine little bike. First 
> one she got to pick out all by herself. I asked her why she likes it 
> best-she said it makes me feel like I'm a teenager-I'm in trouble. 
> Surly LHT which usually sees super nasty weather duty. I'm not sure if 
> I'll hang on to that one but it's a good bike so I probably will. 
>
> Needless to say we have never had a car in our garage. My wife stopped 
> complaining a while ago. So I guess it's ok. 
>
> I hope others play along. 

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Re: [RBW] What's in your garage?

[Lynne Fitz]

Sweetpea's handlebar is indeed the On On Midge.  And thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

[Christian McMillen]

I love the Cowchippers so far.  Hardly any fussing with them. I rode them on 
singletrack the other day--a pic or two in the Flickr--and really like the 
shallow drop, width (46cm) and flare when it came to cranking uphill.  But then 
today I did a four hour road ride and they were great there too.  Sounds to me 
like the woodchippers need to go! 



> On Aug 1, 2015, at 1:49 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christian, I'm half-way kicking myself for not getting one of these
> from the last round. Might have messed up there...
> 
> Anyway, Cowchippers are currently in my Jenson cart, although trying
> to make Woodchippers work. I'm wonding how you find the feel of the
> CCs singletrack? The WCs are great(!) there, but not so great
> everywhere else. I'm playing around with stem, tilt, height combos
> trying to get them to work, but thinking that CCs are in my future...
> 
> 
> Them
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Christian
>  wrote:
>> Jeff
>> 
>> The bars are measured center to center from the hoods. I really like them so
>> far.  The hooks were nice yesterday while cranking up some steep trails. The
>> frame is a medium--equivalent to a 56cm effective top tube.  Here's the info
>> page with the geometry chart from Elephant:
>> http://www.elephantbikes.com/stock/
>> 
>>> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 3:04:53 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great looking bike and build. Those cowchippers look like a compelling
>>> design - where is the 46cm measured - across the top of the bar or at the
>>> flared ends of the drops? What size frame is that?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

[Justin August]

Flickr link?

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Re: [RBW] What's in your garage?

[Abcyclehank]

Garage contains mostly bikes many Rivs

68cm Atlantis
64cm Bombadil
68cm Quickbeam
73cm custom Nobilette similar to A.H.H
62cm Seven w Couplers
Jumbo/Large Cannondale R2000 tandem
Large Cannondale Recumbent
XXL Surly Moonlander
22" Giant ATX720
20" Pan Am chrome 26" wheel BMX Cruiser

1995 BMW R1100GS (Riv content ridden 6000 miles round trip to jamboree last 
year)
1983 Jaguar XJ6 in storage(almost as beautiful as a Riv) purchased in 1989 when 
I dropped out of college.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Elephant National Park Explorer

[cyclotourist]

Thanks, Christian. I figure some will end on my Gryphon sooner rather
than later! I have some Cowbells on my Salsa, and really like those a
lot BTW.

Justin: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/19956632478/in/datetaken/

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Christian McMillen
 wrote:
> I love the Cowchippers so far.  Hardly any fussing with them. I rode them on 
> singletrack the other day--a pic or two in the Flickr--and really like the 
> shallow drop, width (46cm) and flare when it came to cranking uphill.  But 
> then today I did a four hour road ride and they were great there too.  Sounds 
> to me like the woodchippers need to go!
>
>
>
>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 1:49 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Christian, I'm half-way kicking myself for not getting one of these
>> from the last round. Might have messed up there...
>>
>> Anyway, Cowchippers are currently in my Jenson cart, although trying
>> to make Woodchippers work. I'm wonding how you find the feel of the
>> CCs singletrack? The WCs are great(!) there, but not so great
>> everywhere else. I'm playing around with stem, tilt, height combos
>> trying to get them to work, but thinking that CCs are in my future...
>>
>>
>> Them
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Christian
>>  wrote:
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> The bars are measured center to center from the hoods. I really like them so
>>> far.  The hooks were nice yesterday while cranking up some steep trails. The
>>> frame is a medium--equivalent to a 56cm effective top tube.  Here's the info
>>> page with the geometry chart from Elephant:
>>> http://www.elephantbikes.com/stock/
>>>
 On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 3:04:53 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:

 Great looking bike and build. Those cowchippers look like a compelling
 design - where is the 46cm measured - across the top of the bar or at the
 flared ends of the drops? What size frame is that?
>>
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