[RBW] All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[Michael Rivers]

https://flic.kr/p/pCbcz8

VO Tourist on the left, Nitto Noodle on the right.  Both very comfortable. 
Silver goes a bit faster than the blue so I picked handlebars to match. 

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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[Matthew J]

No experience with the bar, but while looking over the JonesBike site for 
what's new, I noticed there is now a swept flat bar offering 
 among the H-bars.  (about half way down)

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[RBW] Re: Sources for wood fenders, particularly bamboo

[Takashi]

I have bought 4 pairs of wooden fenders from Cody.
I bought the first pair in April 2011.
It looks like compound curved fenders tend to twist a little bit after a 
few years.
Other than that, they are still working fine though I've never done any 
waxing/varnishing.

Other wooden fender manufacturers I know of are:
Sykes 
(http://www.sykeswoodfenders.com/sykeswoodfenders/sykeswoodfenders.html)
Anderson (http://creativeopenings.com/CO_Fenders/woodfenders.htm)

I haven't used their products, so I don't know whether they are good or not.

Takashi

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[RBW] Re: The Tao of the Bosco Bar

[Takashi]

My Hunqapillar with Bosco:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/16283372640/in/album-72157650693988781/

Dia Compe DC-135 brake levers allow you to wrap bar tapes over fixing band, 
so you can put your hands on any place of your handlebar.
http://www.amazon.com/Dia-Compe-Touring-Straight-Levers/dp/B0041X4TIQ


Takashi


2015年10月15日木曜日 9時33分38秒 UTC+9 Daniel Jackson:
>
> Tell me, friends, of all the wondrous ways there are to set up a Bosco 
> Bar. Photos of setups would be much help. 
>
> Thanks folks,
> D.
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cunningham medical fund

[Ryan Fleming]

Thanks for the tip, Jeff and Bill

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 5:11:09 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote:
>
> Assuming you've made an online purchase from RBW before, you can also 
> search your registered email for "www.rivbike.com Order Confirmation".
>
> Your customer ID number will be in the top right corner (HTML version) or 
> first line (plain text version) of the email.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:51:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> PSA:  How to find your Customer ID #
>>
>> You need to know: how to log in to your account on Rivbike.com
>> You need to have bought something in the last 3 years
>>
>> 1.  Go to www.rivbike.com
>> 2.  Scroll to the bottom, click My Account and log in
>> 3.  Click on "Print Invoices"
>> 4.  From the drop-down, select some time period in which you bought 
>> something, click Go
>> 5.  Next to each invoice is a "View or Change Order" button.  Pick one 
>> and click it
>> 6.  In the upper right you'll see in blue "print an invoice"
>> 7.  That pulls up a pop-up showing a pdf preview of that invoice.  Your 
>> customer number is in the upper left.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:00:57 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually...that's a terrific idea...I'm sure Charlie Cunningham and 
>>> Jacquie Phelan need all the help they can ge;  certainly more than I need a 
>>> credit. Just waiting for RBW to email my customer # cause I can't remember 
>>> what it is. I reread the interview in the RRwhat a tragedy!. I sure 
>>> hope that he'll recover. But it surely must help that so many people are 
>>> supportive and generous. 
>>>
>>> Bless them both.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:41:19 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Even more bump-worthy, you are now Rivendell incentivized to dig deeper 
 (in $20 increments)

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/

 If you donate again, and this time do so with your Riv customer number 
 in your first name, Riv will give you half your donation as a Riv-credit. 
  Their goal is that we as a group give $10,000 in total.  That's a pretty 
 good goal.  Rather than thinking of it as a donation-discount, I'm going 
 to 
 think about it as matching.  When I donate $100, it's $50 of mine and $50 
 is RBW matching my donation.  

 On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 3:49:17 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Polite but determined bump, just in case some have missed it.  Some 
> news:
>
> 1.  Jan did a very nice blog post about it:  
> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/charlie-cunningham-needs-our-help/
> 2.  They are at nearly 50% of their goal of $100k
> 3.  Here's the URL:  https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg
>
> Consider donating and spreading the word if you haven't already. 
>  Scanning the donors, our friend Harry Hugel has donated 4 times by my 
> count.  
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 1:21:32 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg
>>
>> Charlie Cunningham suffered a head injury (among other injuries) in a 
>> bike crash.  If you've ever felt the twang to thank Charlie for his 
>> visionary contributions to cycling (particularly cycling off pavement), 
>> this is a good opportunity to act on that twang.  
>>
>> thoughts, prayers, and a few dollars
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Clem Geometry

[Edwin W]

I was trying to see what the effective top tube lengths are for the Clems. 
I am getting a small frame for my boys to grow into and was trying to 
figure out what kind of stem/bar to get.

I could wait until it arrives, but that would leave me nothing to do in the 
meantime!

Was there ever a chart posted?

I can call if not.

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[David Banzer]

Having trouble loading attachments. Here's some links to the flipped 
Oxfords.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/bicycles/5D370652-C6A8-4893-B808-96F77916208F_zpsryrm0sxg.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/bicycles/771B0881-5C93-4850-9A3C-96DF67323596_zpsqgkelblg.jpg
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/bicycles/10902CDF-30A6-4478-9B12-FC8FC02502D9_zps9ot9jp5h.jpg
David
Chicago

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 9:20:30 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> +1 to trying the Albatross flipped over, since you have it at least. I'd 
> been wanting to do this with the Soma Oxford (pretty close copy of 
> Albatross) bar I have on a lock-up commuter. I shortened the Oxfords by 
> about 1-1/2" on each side. Tried it out on my ride home yesterday, 
> definitely more aggressive, making the grip are below saddle - mine were 
> slightly above in the 'correct' orientation. Not sure if I'll keep them 
> this way or not. I have a threadless quill adapter and appropriate length 
> stem, might buy some hinged brake levers so I can flip them back/forth 
> easily.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 11:49:55 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried Albatross flipped over? I have them that way on my Bike 
>> Friday and like it.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 7:45:35 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a sam and a hunqapillar. sam had mustache bars, hunq had 
>>> albatross. Then the hunq got albastache and the sam got the old albatross 
>>> bars because I figured it was silly to have 2 bikes with similar bars. Long 
>>> story short, the albatross bars on the sam feel way too upright for my 
>>> liking (and sam is my "roadyish" bike). I'm aware of all the nitto/riv 
>>> models, but what do people like for an all around bar?
>>>
>>> Looking for a couple hand positions, not fully upright, faster feeling 
>>> bar, mostly road riding with a little dirt. Solo, all purpose/no purpose 
>>> rides. 
>>> I haven't ridden drops since a fixed gear bike got me into bikes (and 
>>> away from fixed gears). I'm not super excited about drops but am somewhat 
>>> curious about the low rise dirt drop style bars. What's out there that I 
>>> should be considering?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 2016 RAGBRAI

[Rusty Click]

Aloha Bob,

I plan on riding the '16 RAGBRAI...I really enjoyed this years ride, and 
heartily recommend it to all who may be considering it.

Great write up and pictures on your ride to the beach too!

Rusty Click
Pittsburgh, Pa
724-554-1909



On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:14:30 PM UTC-4, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> Aloha all,
>
> I'm thinking of doing my 3rd RAGBAI in 2016 and have a couple of questions 
> - one not so important, but one a bit more interesting (to me).
>
> First, anyone else contemplating RAGBRAI 2016. There's no route yet, so 
> it's just a thought for most.
>
> Second, has anyone ridden from eastern Iowa to Milwaukee?
>
> You see it's my 40th high school reunion next summer (Shorewood, WI - Go 
> Greyhounds). I've suggested the first weekend in August as that would allow 
> me to double dip by riding RAGBRAI across Iowa and then riding from there 
> to Milwaukee. In fact, I pretty talked folks into the first weekend in 
> August by saying I would ride across Iowa and Wisconsin. 
>
> Of course as we don't know the terminus for RAGBRAI 2016 (nor will we till 
> mid-January) so it's all up in the air, but it's not too early to start 
> thinking about it.
>
> Some of it can be done on the Great River Trail (and that's on my list of 
> things to do so this would be a nice taste).
>
> Other bits (in WI) can apparently be done on the Ice Age Scenic Trail. 
>
> If anyone has any ideas, let me know, it's all in the initial planning 
> stage right now.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Mahalo in advance,
>
> Bob
>
> -- 
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> Honolulu, HI
> rfhar...@gmail.com 
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> Wu Name: Tha Eurythmic King of Nowhere
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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[David Banzer]

+1 to trying the Albatross flipped over, since you have it at least. I'd 
been wanting to do this with the Soma Oxford (pretty close copy of 
Albatross) bar I have on a lock-up commuter. I shortened the Oxfords by 
about 1-1/2" on each side. Tried it out on my ride home yesterday, 
definitely more aggressive, making the grip are below saddle - mine were 
slightly above in the 'correct' orientation. Not sure if I'll keep them 
this way or not. I have a threadless quill adapter and appropriate length 
stem, might buy some hinged brake levers so I can flip them back/forth 
easily.
David
Chicago

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 11:49:55 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Have you tried Albatross flipped over? I have them that way on my Bike 
> Friday and like it.
>
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 7:45:35 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> I have a sam and a hunqapillar. sam had mustache bars, hunq had 
>> albatross. Then the hunq got albastache and the sam got the old albatross 
>> bars because I figured it was silly to have 2 bikes with similar bars. Long 
>> story short, the albatross bars on the sam feel way too upright for my 
>> liking (and sam is my "roadyish" bike). I'm aware of all the nitto/riv 
>> models, but what do people like for an all around bar?
>>
>> Looking for a couple hand positions, not fully upright, faster feeling 
>> bar, mostly road riding with a little dirt. Solo, all purpose/no purpose 
>> rides. 
>> I haven't ridden drops since a fixed gear bike got me into bikes (and 
>> away from fixed gears). I'm not super excited about drops but am somewhat 
>> curious about the low rise dirt drop style bars. What's out there that I 
>> should be considering?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best rear support rack for med sadlesack?

[Philip Kim]

I use marks rack just fine. I zip tie the D rings to the rack, and let it 
loosely strap to seatpost and saddle.

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 6:12:16 PM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> This is for use on a Hunq. 
>
> Was thinking about Mark's but may be too short?
> Anybody have any experience with this rack 
> ? Would seat stay bridge 
> accommodate this?
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> Thanks much,
> D.
>

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[RBW] Re: soma san marcos?

[Evan Baird]

In case you were wondering, here's pictures of a San Marcos that is for 
sale at AC in SF.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/americancycleryofficial/21988952090/in/dateposted/



I think it's pretty neat, but I guess to the rest of the world it's too 
heavy/too expensive/too much trail/too stiff/doesn't have paul racer 
mounts/chainstays too long/doesn't have thru axles/doesn't take press fit 
bearings ect. Anyway, if you want one you probably better jump on it, cause 
they really don't sell well enough to justify their existence. Anyway, 
Public bikes come with matching fenders, so that's a neat feature.

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[Trenker]

Nice trip, and tight bike. 

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[RBW] Will trade either for seatpost: North Face jacket, Mizuno vest

[Patrick Moore]

Will trade either for good quality 27.2 seatpost with large setback and at
least 350 mm long. Black or silver.



> 1. North Face jacket, Medium, slim (but not cycling slim) fit, long
> sleeves with velcro snuggers, high, closeable collar, made of some wonder
> stretching, wicking fabric, pilling in parts of the interior, which doesn't
> affect its function; 22" pit seam to pit seam, 28" from bottom of collar
> seam to end of tail.
>
> $42 SHIPPED Priority CONUS.
>
> 2. Mizuno sports vest, Medium, VG -- no signs of wear, 23" pit seam to pit
> seam, 29" bottom of collar seam to end of tail, $35 SHIPPED Priority CONUS.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[Surlyprof]

After selling dedicated road bike and mtb, I only own a Hillborne now.  I also 
tried flipping my albatross bars to save some money.  Found the drop was too 
far among other problems.  Sucked it up on the cost of a whole new cockpit and 
bought the albastache.  I've never been happier with any other set up.  They 
give a nice amount of reach for going fast-ish and enough upright position to 
relax the neck and back while meandering.  The albastache on my Hillborne feels 
about as all arounder as I can get.  Seems to handle both roads and trails 
equally well.

John

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[RBW] FS: 56 Blue Rambouillet f/f/hs/bb (and potential 650b build)

[Pondero]

Beautiful, and it looks to be a fantastic deal.  If I hadn't just committed all 
my pennies to another project, I'd probably not be able to resist.  Can't wait 
to see what the lucky buyer does with this one!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] FS Acorn Rando Bag.

[hsmitham]

Just throwing it out there! I have used Acorn Green Rando bag. If'n yer 
interested shoot me a private email. I'll send pictures on request.

How about $100 shipped. That's for the lower 48. If you're in Alaska or 
wherever we'll talk shipping numbers. 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[cyclotourist]

 Trust but verify!

:-)


On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, dougP  wrote:
> You've got a point there; that's the route to O'Neill!
>
> This should work better:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/albums/72157659899658955
>
> The cool & drizzle were a welcome relief from the heat down here.  The two
> women in shorts & tank tops are sisters from Cornwall, UK, and were enjoying
> the "English summer" weather.
>
> doug
>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Eagerly waiting to celebrate with you you, but need the actual pictures
>> link to verify it. I don't want to commit to anything prematurely.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>>
>>> Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast,
>>> sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful
>>> riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However,
>>> owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.
>>> Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a
>>> whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down
>>> from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While
>>> transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the
>>> entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
>>>
>>> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
>>>
>>> dougP
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Re: [RBW] Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[Eric Norris]

When good birds go bad. It’s not pretty.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/22010703960/in/album-72157659899658955/
 

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> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:28 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> 
> Trust but verify!
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, dougP  wrote:
>> You've got a point there; that's the route to O'Neill!
>> 
>> This should work better:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/albums/72157659899658955
>> 
>> The cool & drizzle were a welcome relief from the heat down here.  The two
>> women in shorts & tank tops are sisters from Cornwall, UK, and were enjoying
>> the "English summer" weather.
>> 
>> doug
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Eagerly waiting to celebrate with you you, but need the actual pictures
>>> link to verify it. I don't want to commit to anything prematurely.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
 
 Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast,
 sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful
 riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However,
 owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.
 Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a
 whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down
 from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While
 transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the
 entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
 
 http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
 
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[hsmitham]

Doug,

I like the way you think about touring. I like long stretches but there's 
something to be said about pick a section and getting the most out it. Look 
forward to riding and chatting about yer adventures. Really good pictures!

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast, 
> sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful 
> riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However, 
> owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.  
> Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a 
> whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down 
> from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While 
> transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the 
> entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
>
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
>
> dougP
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[dougP]

Chris:

Thanks for the thought.  I like to think we inspire one another.  The last 
photo was shot by my touring bud Peppermint Patty (she really does look 
like the Peanuts character) and she did a great job of making a minor bump 
look epic.  But then she started in Canada several weeks ago so had lots of 
practice at picking the spots for the great shots.  

dougP

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 8:09:53 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Fantastic, Doug!
>
> Finding the right bike to enjoy completing a goal like this is 
> inspirational.  I loved the last photo in the set.  It looks like you are 
> dominating a big climb in epic conditions.  You win.  Keep on being a great 
> example for me.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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[RBW] Re: The Tao of the Bosco Bar

[Surlyprof]

Here's what they look like on a mountain bike.  Before I sold the Groove, I 
had injured my shoulder.  Although I never really felt the warm fuzzies 
about them, they did keep me riding to work by taking the pressure off.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/21588225663/in/dateposted-public/

John

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 5:33:38 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Tell me, friends, of all the wondrous ways there are to set up a Bosco 
> Bar. Photos of setups would be much help. 
>
> Thanks folks,
> D.
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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[dougP]

Tony:

Hugh's got a lot friends.  A visitor from afar is a good reason to gather 
together.  

dougP

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 3:35:43 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Thanks Hugh!
>
> Whenever you make your trip we'll roll out the welcome wagon for you and 
> do some riding!  This virtual community is pretty awesome, and the face to 
> face connections whether its sharing rides, sharing coffee or 'doing some 
> business' only reinforces it.  Chris's visit and my one day on the trail 
> with the crew already feels like it happened last year...like a fleeting, 
> awesome daydream...
>
> I may be out in SOCAL for work in early December, bit to early to tell but 
> I'll hit you up offline on the chance we can grab a beverage or get a ride 
> in.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 1:04:47 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> Really enjoyed your blog post about the experience and ride. As always 
>> the images were great. Just a funny side note. When I first discovered 
>> Rivendell for some reason I thought they were East Coast based, of course I 
>> quickly realized they were in Walnut Creek, but seeing you all riding out 
>> there brought back that vibe. And you guy's and gal personified the 
>> Rivendell ethos. Someday I'll make it out to the mid-atlantic and do a 
>> tour. 
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
>>
>>> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/10/mr-pondero-comes-to-washington.html
>>>
>>> Post with more pictures included.  Another gorgeous weekend in the bag 
>>> and a 3 day one at that.  This really is the best time of year for anything 
>>> outdoors in the Mid-Atlantic.  I hope everyone involved made it home safely 
>>> and enjoyed the rest of their riding on the C  Thanks again to Chris for 
>>> making the opportunity and providing the inspiration!
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
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[RBW] FS: 56 Blue Rambouillet f/f/hs/bb (and potential 650b build)

[allenmichael]

You can see my intentions from the photos. I have an orange 58 Rambouillet, 
but I was going to experiment with building up a 56 with a nice pair of 
650b wheels (synergy rims, red SON dynamo front, red Chris King rear, red 
Hetres). I thought the red and blue worked well together.

Alas, I haven't even been riding the 58 much at all. I'm mostly commuting, 
and the Simple One is hard to beat for this purpose.

I'm trying to sell the frame for $700 (plus actual cost if it needs to be 
shipped). Here is a Portland, Oregon Craigslist 
link: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/5269855278.html

These are gorgeous frames, and they ride exceptionally well.

Dreaming—I would love to find someone local who wants the wheelset and the 
frame and even some of the other build parts. If you are interested, please 
let me know.

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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[Jeff Lesperance]

I haven't purposely taken a slightly extended period of time to give thanks
and comment on Chris' visit and great ride on the C, life jut managed to
pick up at it's occasional breakneck pace as soon as I returned to reality.
Some other folks who joined in part of the ride on day one, or the first
overnight, like I did, have already let you all know that it was a
beautiful day amongst great company. Most folks took far more and much
better pictures than I did as well. I guess I have a little something else
to share about the day...

Life's thrown me a few knuckleballs over the past several years. I spent
three or so of the last five or so years helping my mother through a
terrible cancer fight. We made it through one round but she didn't survive
round two. I've spent the past two years getting things right with myself
since that fight.

I found that being out in the world, away from the cacophony of my general
urban surroundings, perched on a bike, rolling through the landscape, has
been phenomenal "therapy." I've focused most of my riding on solo
excursions, be it commuting, weekend adventuring or just riding around.
Just this past year I've opened myself up more to the idea of finding some
folks who like to ride the way I like to ride (which appears to be the way
most of you like to ride), and, well, going for rides with them. As a
lifelong introvert, I'm not always comfortable with a bunch of new people,
and as a reforming solo bike rider, I barely know how to ride along with
other folks. This is where Chris and local DC Metro area Riv-folk come in...

I kinda set out on this trip last week cognizant that it was Chris' ride. I
was happy for the invite to join in, but I didn't want to make it my ride.
Combine that with the introverted tendencies, and I thought I might just
participate a bit, maybe hang back and certainly enjoy the day on the C
A few friends and strangers just picked up on a common interest and good
things happened. There wasn't really a non-participatory option, and this
was a good thing.

Some days you just go out for a bike ride, and that's all it is, just a
human-mechanical interface event. Hop on, body moves, bike moves, hop off.
Other times, it's not just a bike ride, it's a bigger thing. Could be a
faith-restoring event even. Faith in what? Doesn't matter. Sound crazy?
Maybe it is.

I made my way solo back to DC on day two. I started the trek feeling light,
energized, full.

There's good people out there. Sometimes you meet 'em on a bike.

Chris, Steve, Carey (and Tom, Tony, Ken, the other Steve, the other Steve?,
Mary) it was a pleasure to meet you, on a bike. Thanks for letting me in on
your more-than-just-a-ride.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD


On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Thanks Hugh!
>
> Whenever you make your trip we'll roll out the welcome wagon for you and
> do some riding!  This virtual community is pretty awesome, and the face to
> face connections whether its sharing rides, sharing coffee or 'doing some
> business' only reinforces it.  Chris's visit and my one day on the trail
> with the crew already feels like it happened last year...like a fleeting,
> awesome daydream...
>
> I may be out in SOCAL for work in early December, bit to early to tell but
> I'll hit you up offline on the chance we can grab a beverage or get a ride
> in.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 1:04:47 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> Really enjoyed your blog post about the experience and ride. As always
>> the images were great. Just a funny side note. When I first discovered
>> Rivendell for some reason I thought they were East Coast based, of course I
>> quickly realized they were in Walnut Creek, but seeing you all riding out
>> there brought back that vibe. And you guy's and gal personified the
>> Rivendell ethos. Someday I'll make it out to the mid-atlantic and do a
>> tour.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
>>
>>> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/10/mr-pondero-comes-to-washington.html
>>>
>>> Post with more pictures included.  Another gorgeous weekend in the bag
>>> and a 3 day one at that.  This really is the best time of year for anything
>>> outdoors in the Mid-Atlantic.  I hope everyone involved made it home safely
>>> and enjoyed the rest of their riding on the C  Thanks again to Chris for
>>> making the opportunity and providing the inspiration!
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[Ron Mc]

drew, I've set my Map bar up with just 2 hand positions, but there's a mid 
hook position (I have it blocked with a bell). Great for climbing - best 
standing bike I've ever ridden. I was on a greenway path today and a band 
of roadies were spinning past then slowing down on their wind, several 
times (forcing me to pass them several times).  When they created a dicey 
traffic situation, I stood up and blew them away, tossing the bike left and 
right. It's a much more secure feeling than leaning on the hoods of my 
drop-bar bike. .  

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 5:14:22 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Great info!
> flipped albatross didnt work so well for me when i tried it a couple of 
> years ago. i kind of like the look, but the positioning never felt good for 
> me. the vo crazy bar is too crazy, too wild. 
>
> so i think im down to the map/ahearne/jones/pope style bars or noodleish 
> drop bars. 
>
> leaning slightly to jones/ahearne. so questions about that style of bar: 
> how many hand positions will i realistically get? how are they for 
> climbing?  one main complaint i have about the albatross bars is that i 
> never really feel comfortable on long, sit down climbs. the position doesnt 
> really allow a satisfactory lean/weight distribution in that setting, and 
> my arms end up changing position every couple of minutes. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[Pondero]

Hugh, thanks for the kind words.  I've got the first three days of photos now 
up on Flickr, and day four will be uploaded soon.

Jeff, your comments resonate.  As a classic introvert who needs more solo time 
than most, I actually get more solo than I need out here in north central 
Texas.  So when there is a chance to geek out with folks having a common 
interest, it is special.  Your presence enriched our trip, and I hope you and 
Carey will be able to link up occasionally.

Now that I'm back home, it's time for me to turn my attention to the Seventh 
Annual Fifty-ish Mile Fall Finale Country Path Ramble (the Ramble) that I host 
each year from my house.  Saturday, November 14.  Y'all come on down!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[Pondero]

Fantastic, Doug!

Finding the right bike to enjoy completing a goal like this is inspirational.  
I loved the last photo in the set.  It looks like you are dominating a big 
climb in epic conditions.  You win.  Keep on being a great example for me.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[dougP]

Probably.  I'd been wearing a rain jacket & my photog buddy insisted it 
clashed with the background or something.  Temps were nicely on the cool 
side, with occasional drizzle & mist.  There are still a lot of people 
headed down the coast to San Diego, Mexico & beyond.  

doug

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 2:33:13 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>
> Hey Doug,
>
> That parking lot in front of Paul was a bit fuller when I went by in 
> July.  Is that sweat on your sweater?
>
> Curtis
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Trenker  
> wrote:
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>> Nice trip, and tight bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[Patrick Moore]

Years ago I used to be sent around the country to do "ethics interviews" of
upper down to mid level management -- actually, down to field supervisors
in some cases -- pursuant to performing an "ethics audit" of the
organization. (I was the "associate consultant" who provided the data to
the full consultants.)

We worked with leading F 500 and even 200 companies as well as professional
organizations.

My view of the disconnect between the C's and Directors and VPs and the
lower levels was very striking; also striking was the forlorn confusion
among the lower ranks from the orders to be "ethical" -- in one company a
mgr was fired on the "no thieving" rule because he took somebody's Sprite
from the refrigerator -- and the much more important rule to get more done
and make more sales while cutting costs and resources. It's the damned
system!

At any rate, I swore I'd never do their jobs, and so far I've more or less
managed to keep this promise, with results for my wages.

I work with many very intelligent and personable clients, mid to upper
level (say, functional VPs and regional and country Directors; C's from
smaller and mid size orgs) and what strikes me is how much their identity
is bound up with their jobs, and how much -- incredibly much! -- energy and
time they spend on things that make for success, look good in Business
Week, but that have my eyes glazing when I have to read about it. As they
say those who can, do; those who can't, write resumes.

(OTOH again, I do have interesting clients doing interesting things besides
managing the $XXB capital budget for power infrastructure and what have
you; entrepreneurs and solo professionals.)

Point of this self indulgent ramble: man, if you can earn even a modest
living doing what you like, and what you like is something truly humanly
useful, you are so far ahead of the game that little else counts!

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Allan in Portland 
wrote:

> If it helps, a lot of what people spend their money on is self-medicating
> something else they are miserable about in their life.
>
> A former co-worked joked after going back to grad school, "yeah, my income
> has dropped by about 90%, but I'm saving so much on hookers and booze I
> hardly notice the difference."
>
> Personally, about 7 years ago I quit work and took a personal a
> sabbatical. I can say almost the day after I walked out the door, and for
> the duration of my sabbatical the long list of "stuff" that I had wanted
> and been saving up for prior to my quitting lost all its desire to me. I
> was completely contented with what I had and more than happy spending my
> time on doing stuff that interested me and had personal meaning. It was
> remarkable, and totally unexpected in its degree.
>
> If the homestead experience is something you've always wanted to do, and
> it's going to give you a lot of personal fulfilment, then I can almost
> guarantee you won't miss the Clem and you'll probably even marvel at your
> state of mind that had you sending your original email. On the other hand,
> if you're going into the homestead as kind of a last resort/escape from the
> broken middle-class economy we as a nation have found ourselves in, well,
> odds are you're going to find it tough going with or without the Clem. If
> you think having it around will be a source of life's small pleasures, go
> ahead and get it. If you think it will be a source of friction and
> resentment, by all means pass.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Allan
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[RBW] Re: Frederick MD Fall Country Rides w/ Cues: Off the beaten path

[Justin Schoop]

Tony, we talked a while ago about meeting up and riding with possible 
overnighters on the C Unfortunately I was unable to join you guys while 
Pondero was in town. But maybe we can schedule something soon?

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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[Matthew J]

Take a look at the VO Casey's Crazy Bar: 

That would be a challenge for a Riv.  There are open face quill stems on 
the market, but not so many decent ones.

I don't recall Riv ever selling an open face quill stem.

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[RBW] Re: All arounder Handlebar recommendations GO!

[drew]

Great info!
flipped albatross didnt work so well for me when i tried it a couple of 
years ago. i kind of like the look, but the positioning never felt good for 
me. the vo crazy bar is too crazy, too wild. 

so i think im down to the map/ahearne/jones/pope style bars or noodleish 
drop bars. 

leaning slightly to jones/ahearne. so questions about that style of bar: 
how many hand positions will i realistically get? how are they for 
climbing?  one main complaint i have about the albatross bars is that i 
never really feel comfortable on long, sit down climbs. the position doesnt 
really allow a satisfactory lean/weight distribution in that setting, and 
my arms end up changing position every couple of minutes. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cunningham medical fund

[Ryan Fleming]

Actually Miesha emailed me my customer#...so I donated and then emailed her 
back asking if Riv wouldn't mind donating my Riv  credit to the Cunningham 
fund

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 10:07:50 AM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tip, Jeff and Bill
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 5:11:09 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote:
>>
>> Assuming you've made an online purchase from RBW before, you can also 
>> search your registered email for "www.rivbike.com Order Confirmation".
>>
>> Your customer ID number will be in the top right corner (HTML version) or 
>> first line (plain text version) of the email.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:51:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> PSA:  How to find your Customer ID #
>>>
>>> You need to know: how to log in to your account on Rivbike.com
>>> You need to have bought something in the last 3 years
>>>
>>> 1.  Go to www.rivbike.com
>>> 2.  Scroll to the bottom, click My Account and log in
>>> 3.  Click on "Print Invoices"
>>> 4.  From the drop-down, select some time period in which you bought 
>>> something, click Go
>>> 5.  Next to each invoice is a "View or Change Order" button.  Pick one 
>>> and click it
>>> 6.  In the upper right you'll see in blue "print an invoice"
>>> 7.  That pulls up a pop-up showing a pdf preview of that invoice.  Your 
>>> customer number is in the upper left.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:00:57 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 Actually...that's a terrific idea...I'm sure Charlie Cunningham and 
 Jacquie Phelan need all the help they can ge;  certainly more than I need 
 a 
 credit. Just waiting for RBW to email my customer # cause I can't remember 
 what it is. I reread the interview in the RRwhat a tragedy!. I sure 
 hope that he'll recover. But it surely must help that so many people are 
 supportive and generous. 

 Bless them both.

 On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 1:41:19 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Even more bump-worthy, you are now Rivendell incentivized to dig 
> deeper (in $20 increments)
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>
> If you donate again, and this time do so with your Riv customer number 
> in your first name, Riv will give you half your donation as a Riv-credit. 
>  Their goal is that we as a group give $10,000 in total.  That's a pretty 
> good goal.  Rather than thinking of it as a donation-discount, I'm going 
> to 
> think about it as matching.  When I donate $100, it's $50 of mine and $50 
> is RBW matching my donation.  
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 3:49:17 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Polite but determined bump, just in case some have missed it.  Some 
>> news:
>>
>> 1.  Jan did a very nice blog post about it:  
>> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/charlie-cunningham-needs-our-help/
>> 2.  They are at nearly 50% of their goal of $100k
>> 3.  Here's the URL:  https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg
>>
>> Consider donating and spreading the word if you haven't already. 
>>  Scanning the donors, our friend Harry Hugel has donated 4 times by my 
>> count.  
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 1:21:32 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg
>>>
>>> Charlie Cunningham suffered a head injury (among other injuries) in 
>>> a bike crash.  If you've ever felt the twang to thank Charlie for his 
>>> visionary contributions to cycling (particularly cycling off pavement), 
>>> this is a good opportunity to act on that twang.  
>>>
>>> thoughts, prayers, and a few dollars
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Frederick MD Fall Country Rides w/ Cues: Off the beaten path

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

We’ve written up 3 great fall rides on our journal which might be of 
interest to DC/MD area Riv riders.  A bunch of Riv riders recently did one 
of our s24o trips we wrote about, and dug it, so I figured this might be 
good reading as well.  There’s a coffee outside ride, a winery ride, and a 
big epic ride from Frederick City to the PA border.  From the article on 
our journal:  Fall is the most fleeting of seasons. It’s burst of color a 
final explosion before the land plunges into a world of abbreviated days, 
muted grays and biting winds.  Don’t spend it inside, eating bonbons and 
drinking pumpkin flavored coffee.  We’ve compiled three local rides that 
start in the city o’ Frederick and head out into the country.  They are not 
your typical rides, and they avoid the main roads that Frederick cyclists 
use.  Less traffic, more scenery.  Some of ‘em have pretty big hills.  For 
all of them, we recommend a roadish bike with fat tires and low gears.   
Here’s the link:  http://gravelandgrind.com/frederick-forgotten-explore/




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Re: [RBW] The Tao of the Bosco Bar

[Mark Wilkins]

I just rebuilt my wife's Atlantis with Bosco bars. Cromo, Tektro levers, 
Sunrace thumbies, multicolor Newbaum's. 

The "grips" are brown cotton tape over a layer of cork tape. 

She likes it over the Albatross, cork grips, vintage Dia-Compe levers, and 
shimano bar ends that used to be on the bike

https://flic.kr/p/ySV4Y3

https://flic.kr/p/ySV4Wu


Mark

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> Tell me, friends, of all the wondrous ways there are to set up a Bosco Bar. 
> Photos of setups would be much help. 
> 
> Thanks folks,
> D.
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[RBW] Re: The Tao of the Bosco Bar

[Jeremy Till]

Here's a couple of mine, they are my current all-time favorite bar: 

https://flic.kr/p/z3uwFM
https://flic.kr/p/pgoF44

58cm HT aluminum boscos, cheapo (think they're Origin8) adjustable cable 
pull levers (I like 'em slightly more forward than Grant), Shimano 9spd 
bar-end shifters, Oury grips with the flange end cut off.  Derailleur 
cables run along grooves provided by the Oury grips, never feel like 
they're in the way.  I've got 2 or 3 good hand positions that all have 
brake lever access and a couple more without.  

If I were doing a more off-road specific build I might think about thumbies 
to remove the perhaps theoretical risk of pokey things at the ends of the 
bars, but for mostly road/touring/commuting/fire roads like my trucker sees 
I love the bar ends.  

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> Tell me, friends, of all the wondrous ways there are to set up a Bosco 
> Bar. Photos of setups would be much help. 
>
> Thanks folks,
> D.
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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Hugh!

Whenever you make your trip we'll roll out the welcome wagon for you and do 
some riding!  This virtual community is pretty awesome, and the face to 
face connections whether its sharing rides, sharing coffee or 'doing some 
business' only reinforces it.  Chris's visit and my one day on the trail 
with the crew already feels like it happened last year...like a fleeting, 
awesome daydream...

I may be out in SOCAL for work in early December, bit to early to tell but 
I'll hit you up offline on the chance we can grab a beverage or get a ride 
in.

Tony



On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 1:04:47 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> Really enjoyed your blog post about the experience and ride. As always the 
> images were great. Just a funny side note. When I first discovered 
> Rivendell for some reason I thought they were East Coast based, of course I 
> quickly realized they were in Walnut Creek, but seeing you all riding out 
> there brought back that vibe. And you guy's and gal personified the 
> Rivendell ethos. Someday I'll make it out to the mid-atlantic and do a 
> tour. 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Tony DeFilippo  > wrote:
>
>> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/10/mr-pondero-comes-to-washington.html
>>
>> Post with more pictures included.  Another gorgeous weekend in the bag 
>> and a 3 day one at that.  This really is the best time of year for anything 
>> outdoors in the Mid-Atlantic.  I hope everyone involved made it home safely 
>> and enjoyed the rest of their riding on the C  Thanks again to Chris for 
>> making the opportunity and providing the inspiration!
>>
>> Tony
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[RBW] Re: Frederick MD Fall Country Rides w/ Cues: Off the beaten path

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

yup they all start at the shop.  that way you can coffee up then go ride.  

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> Agreed, that coffee one looks particularly nice.  Is the start point your 
> shop?
>
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[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[Allan in Portland]

If it helps, a lot of what people spend their money on is self-medicating 
something else they are miserable about in their life.

A former co-worked joked after going back to grad school, "yeah, my income 
has dropped by about 90%, but I'm saving so much on hookers and booze I 
hardly notice the difference."

Personally, about 7 years ago I quit work and took a personal a sabbatical. 
I can say almost the day after I walked out the door, and for the duration 
of my sabbatical the long list of "stuff" that I had wanted and been saving 
up for prior to my quitting lost all its desire to me. I was completely 
contented with what I had and more than happy spending my time on doing 
stuff that interested me and had personal meaning. It was remarkable, and 
totally unexpected in its degree.

If the homestead experience is something you've always wanted to do, and 
it's going to give you a lot of personal fulfilment, then I can almost 
guarantee you won't miss the Clem and you'll probably even marvel at your 
state of mind that had you sending your original email. On the other hand, 
if you're going into the homestead as kind of a last resort/escape from the 
broken middle-class economy we as a nation have found ourselves in, well, 
odds are you're going to find it tough going with or without the Clem. If 
you think having it around will be a source of life's small pleasures, go 
ahead and get it. If you think it will be a source of friction and 
resentment, by all means pass.

Best Regards,
-Allan

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[RBW] Frederick MD Fall Country Rides w/ Cues: Off the beaten path

[Justin Schoop]

All three sound like great rides. I'll definitely have to clear out some time 
on the calendar to check these out. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[Curtis McKenzie]

Hey Doug,

That parking lot in front of Paul was a bit fuller when I went by in July.
Is that sweat on your sweater?

Curtis

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> Nice trip, and tight bike.
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[RBW] Re: Frederick MD Fall Country Rides w/ Cues: Off the beaten path

[Tony DeFilippo]

Agreed, that coffee one looks particularly nice.  Is the start point your 
shop?

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[dougP]

You've got a point there; that's the route to O'Neill!

This should work better:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/albums/72157659899658955

The cool & drizzle were a welcome relief from the heat down here.  The two 
women in shorts & tank tops are sisters from Cornwall, UK, and were 
enjoying the "English summer" weather.  

doug

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wrote:
>
> Eagerly waiting to celebrate with you you, but need the actual pictures 
> link to verify it. I don't want to commit to anything prematurely. 
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast, 
>> sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful 
>> riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However, 
>> owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.  
>> Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a 
>> whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down 
>> from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While 
>> transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the 
>> entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
>>
>> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
>>
>> dougP
>>
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[RBW] Sarasota Riv owners?

[Lungimsam]

Anyone down Sarasota, Florida way here?

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[dougP]

Hugh:

In a way this one picked itself.  When the rest of the crew took off 
several weeks ago, their only fixed point was to start at the Canadian 
border.  Norm & I concocted this scheme on the fly after my San Francisco 
to Monterey ride.  By the time I met them they were ready for a break.  
After weeks on the road, my notion of carrying on to San Francisco didn't 
get far, but then all of us have done that bit.  

Now the two English gals we met really trumped all in terms of casual 
approach.  One brought a 30 year old Peugot from England, and her sister 
bought a KHS hybrid in Portland.  They did no planning, had no books or 
maps.  We of course were astounded & asked them how they figured out where 
they were going.  "Oh, there's so many people on bikes we just chat with 
everyone we meet & it all works out."  One planned to return to the UK from 
San Diego but her sister was nudging her to go to Mexico with her.  Now 
those people are the true adventurers.

dougP  

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> Doug,
>
> I like the way you think about touring. I like long stretches but there's 
> something to be said about pick a section and getting the most out it. Look 
> forward to riding and chatting about yer adventures. Really good pictures!
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast, 
>> sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful 
>> riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However, 
>> owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.  
>> Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a 
>> whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down 
>> from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While 
>> transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the 
>> entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
>>
>> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
>>
>> dougP
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Acorn Rando Bag.

[Hugh Smitham]

The smaller of the two. Sorry Dennis.
On Oct 15, 2015 9:49 PM, "Dennis Hogan"  wrote:

> Hi Hugh,
>
> Is it the regular size rando bag or the larger? If the larger, I would be
> interested.
> Thx
> Dennis in PDX
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 9:02:26 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Just throwing it out there! I have used Acorn Green Rando bag. If'n yer
>> interested shoot me a private email. I'll send pictures on request.
>>
>> How about $100 shipped. That's for the lower 48. If you're in Alaska or
>> wherever we'll talk shipping numbers.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: FS Acorn Rando Bag.

[Dennis Hogan]

Hi Hugh,

Is it the regular size rando bag or the larger? If the larger, I would be 
interested.
Thx
Dennis in PDX

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> Just throwing it out there! I have used Acorn Green Rando bag. If'n yer 
> interested shoot me a private email. I'll send pictures on request.
>
> How about $100 shipped. That's for the lower 48. If you're in Alaska or 
> wherever we'll talk shipping numbers. 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[Hugh Smitham]

Chris,

Looks like a wonderful time had by all. Loved your images and above all you
brought the laid back Texas Leisure Consultant vibe out east. Always a
challenge to jump back into one's everyday routine after the high of a
successful trip/tour. There is comfort of course in those familiar
surroundings.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/



On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Pondero  wrote:

> I'm back in Texas and trying to adjust back to real life.  But I'm still
> inspired by the warm hospitality to do more of this.  What a treat to meet
> you all!  You are even more interesting than your internet celebrity
> personas!
>
> More photos and blog content coming, but here are my Day 1 photos...
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/sets/72157659359187960
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] Re: C in October

[Hugh Smitham]

Tony,

Really enjoyed your blog post about the experience and ride. As always the
images were great. Just a funny side note. When I first discovered
Rivendell for some reason I thought they were East Coast based, of course I
quickly realized they were in Walnut Creek, but seeing you all riding out
there brought back that vibe. And you guy's and gal personified the
Rivendell ethos. Someday I'll make it out to the mid-atlantic and do a
tour.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/10/mr-pondero-comes-to-washington.html
>
> Post with more pictures included.  Another gorgeous weekend in the bag and
> a 3 day one at that.  This really is the best time of year for anything
> outdoors in the Mid-Atlantic.  I hope everyone involved made it home safely
> and enjoyed the rest of their riding on the C  Thanks again to Chris for
> making the opportunity and providing the inspiration!
>
> Tony
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2016 RAGBRAI

[Robert F. Harrison]

Riding "across" Oahu probably would be a bust. It's basically up and down
with an unfriendly tunnel in the middle. I think it's okay in a group, but
is pretty nerve-wracking solo (or so I'm told).

Around Oahu is probably a better idea - sort of anyway. You can't actually
ride around the entire island, you have to carry your bike at least part of
the way at Kaena Point.

Having said all that, we have a few organized rides every year; two are out
and back, one around Kaena Point but not really around the island.

1. Honolulu Century Ride - Honolulu to Kaaawa and back (
https://www.hbl.org/honolulucenturyride/)
2. JBL Metric Century Ride - Haleiwa to Kaaawa and back (
https://www.hbl.org/events/haleiwa-metric-century-ride/) - This is my
favorite.
3. Zach's Ride in Paradise - two day event with two stage ride on Saturday,
criterium on Sunday (https://www.hbl.org/events/zachs-ride/) - never done
any of it

So no, we really don't have a ride around the circumference, but it could
be done and I've done almost all of it except for Kaena Point. Here's a
video of the point entails:
https://www.hbl.org/events/zachs-ride/around-kaena-point-on-zachs-ride/

BTW - It's not a tiny island, but it's small enough we sure wouldn't get a
week out of it. Three days with two nights would be fun and not at all
stressful. Of course our randonneur friends would probably opt for one day
and go around twice. I've often given though to doing it (just once
though).

Aloha, Bob



On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Do they have any ride across Oahu rides? That would be fun to do. I think
> I'd fly over for that. Or ride around circumference of island event.
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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[David Banzer]

I don't believe it's been posted yet. If you do call, report back what you 
find out. I've been contemplating a custom front rack for my Clem and would 
like to see if geometry is posted so I can ask a framebuilder if they can 
work off that or if they need the actual frame/fork in hand.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 11:17:45 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I was trying to see what the effective top tube lengths are for the Clems. 
> I am getting a small frame for my boys to grow into and was trying to 
> figure out what kind of stem/bar to get.
>
> I could wait until it arrives, but that would leave me nothing to do in 
> the meantime!
>
> Was there ever a chart posted?
>
> I can call if not.
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] Re: 2016 RAGBRAI

[Lungimsam]

Do they have any ride across Oahu rides? That would be fun to do. I think I'd 
fly over for that. Or ride around circumference of island event.

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[drew]

if you want the tt measurement for the 48cm clem, i can get that this 
evening. my wife has the little protovelo. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Overnight camping this past weekend (Oahu, Hawaii)

[Robert F. Harrison]

Sorry I forgot to get back to you about the ankle bands. They were actually
given to me by a visitor from Alaska. They are actually oil company swag.
I'll have to take a look and see what company - riding a different bike
today though and don't have them with me.

Aloha,

Bob



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> Thanks for the ride report. I haven't finished reading it yet, though.
>
> Oahu is the most beautiful place I have ever been. If I lived on Oahu
> (700k median house price one of the factors keeping me out) I would want to
> do a 100k ride where one is only allowed to survive off of eating those
> sno-ice things bought from roadside trucks. Must be different flavors at
> every control. 3 flavors each time.
>
> Where did you get those reflective ankle bands that are on your top tube?
> I am looking for some like them and they are hard to find in white color.
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Eagerly waiting to celebrate with you you, but need the actual pictures 
link to verify it. I don't want to commit to anything prematurely. 

On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast, 
> sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful 
> riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However, 
> owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.  
> Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a 
> whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down 
> from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While 
> transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the 
> entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:
>
> http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460
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> dougP
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[RBW] FS: Low Trail customized Hunqapillar size 58

[René Sterental]

Hi all,

It's been a very hectic summer at work with business travel and other
things, so I wasn't able to follow up on my quest to downsize my quiver of
bikes and push forward with my life simplification goals. Things are still
hectic, but a bit less so now, so I'm moving forward with my plans again.

For sale is my customized low trail 58 cm Hunqapillar, equipped as follows:

- Pewter custom painted 58cm Hunqapillar frame with custom made low trail
fork with braze-ons.
- Original (with original paint scheme) Hunqapillar fork
- Nitto seatpost
- Mavic A719 36 spoked wheelset with XT hubs built by Rich L @ RBW
- 60mm steel Berthoud fenders (front fender has Berthoud leather flap for
extra coverage)
- 50mm Schwalbe Big Bens
- Nitto Mini front rack
- Nitto Big Rear Rack
- Paul Neo-Retro polished front brakes with salmon pads
- Paul Touring polished rear brakes with salmon pads
- Shiimano Dura-Ace 9 speed downtime shifters
- 12/36 XT 9 speed cogset
- Shimano XT M771 Shadow rear derailer
- Brand new (just tested) Brooks B17 Imperial saddle
- Shimano brake levers for cantilever brakes
- Paul Bottom Bracket
- Interloc original headset
- Paul front brake cable holder
- Double kickstand
- Choice of bars: Bosco regular 58 steel or Bosco Bullmoose 58. The bike
currently has Albatross bars I was testing.
- Leather black grips (I have two options to offer: Brooks leather and PDW
leather, both in black; I just have to dig them out)

Parts I'm keeping:
- Front Derailer: I'm keeping the Campagnolo double front derailer to put
on another bike; these cannot be found anymore, so you'd have to get one
from RBW, particularly if you go with a triple crankset as the one I have
is for a double crankset.
- Custom Double crankset and pedals: I assembled this bike with a similar
crankset than the Betty Foy, and will be transferring them to my Atlantis.
The Atlantis has the traditional Sugino triple, so I can swap them if you'd
like the Sugino Triple on the Hunqapillar.
- King bottle cages: I forgot to remove them when I took the photos, but
I'm keeping them.

I think that's it for the parts. Let me know if I forgot something.

Detailed photos are on my Hunqapillar album on Flickr; they should be the
last series at the bottom, if sorted by date. Let me know if there are any
other views you'd like to see.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/albums/72157627319515196

I'm asking for $3,600 for the whole setup as listed above. I will entertain
offers. I'd rather sell the bike as a whole, but if there is only interest
for the frame and fork(s), then I'll disassemble it and put the parts for
sale separately.

I'm located in the SF Bay Area, so local delivery would be best. Otherwise,
I'll get a quote for packaging at my LBS and your choice of shipping. Those
charges will be separate.

For now, I'm definitely keeping the Atlantis; it suits me better and I love
it. As I move forward with my plans, I'll keep you all posted, especially
if other bikes come up for sale.

Thank you,

René

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[RBW] Atlantis completes the Pacific Coast

[dougP]

Starting in 1988, I've been accumulating segments of the Pacific Coast, 
sometimes little bits and other times large chunks.  It's such a beautiful 
riding area that some segments have been done multiple times.  However, 
owing to logistical issues, Brooking, OR, to Arcata, CA has eluded me.  
Recently the opportunity came up to get there & do the missing bit (a 
whopping 110 miles).  Besides, it was 100 in SoCal & my friends biking down 
from Canada / WA / OR kept sending pictures wearing rain gear.  While 
transporting north, it came to me that I've now ridden my Atlantis the 
entire length of the Pacific Coast.  Pictures prove it happened:

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8120460

dougP

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sources for wood fenders, particularly bamboo

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks; good to know that they hold up. I'll probably choose the flat ones
for cost and to avoid what you report about the curved ones.

I've looked at those other vendors and Sykes is even more expensive, while
Anderson seems to offer only curved ones. The short list now consists of
Cody's company.

 Unless someone has some for sale used and cheap ...

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:17 AM, Takashi  wrote:

> I have bought 4 pairs of wooden fenders from Cody.
> I bought the first pair in April 2011.
> It looks like compound curved fenders tend to twist a little bit after a
> few years.
> Other than that, they are still working fine though I've never done any
> waxing/varnishing.
>
> Other wooden fender manufacturers I know of are:
> Sykes (
> http://www.sykeswoodfenders.com/sykeswoodfenders/sykeswoodfenders.html)
> Anderson (http://creativeopenings.com/CO_Fenders/woodfenders.htm)
>
> I haven't used their products, so I don't know whether they are good or
> not.
>
> Takashi
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