[RBW] Re: Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's about 10 Clementines, upgraded to dyno hubs, light and fender kit.


On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 6:17:34 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Or seem cheap... 
> Compare it to the Merckx 70 
> 
> !
>
>
> It's all relative,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

[Bill]

For 17 thou I'd want some nice lugs, just like on a Riv.

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[RBW] FS: Sackville Saddlesack Large - Olive

[Ryan Ray]

I wish my headtube was normal person sized. I love those set up as Porteur 
bags. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Saddlesack Large - Olive

[Ryan Ray]

Oh cool. I think my Haul'n Colin tombstone is a bit narrow if I can figure out 
that grip from photos. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Some Green Backabike rear bags

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hang in there, Bill. The website says there is a possibility the olive will 
be there in a couple of weeks. 

I have the grey backabike bags, and they are my favorite bike accessory 
purchase this year, and possibly of all time. They look great, work great, 
simple and easy to use, and I use them multiple times a day, so the 
enjoyment is that much greater. 

I did notice that the flat webbing used to secure the bags to the top of 
the rear rack were fraying. I attribute this to a variation of the classic 
square peg in a round hole syndrome. I replaced one side with a piece of 
climbers accessory cord, and that does not get frayed (I have tons of scrap 
pieces from a previous job, working for artists who used them to lash 
together giant bamboo sculptures.) 

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 7:14:12 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'd like to buy some of THESE 
>   Riv rear backabike 
> panniers in GREEN.  
>
> Riv is all out of green, and I'd like to match the fronts I already have. 
>  If nobody has any, I'll buy a pair of Grey from Riv.  I'm open to trades 
> (Bay Area preferred)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Saddlesack Large - Olive

[Michael Ullmer]

I used it on my Cetma 5-rail rack for a few months paired with a Nitto 
Saddlebag Grip. It was a great set-up!

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 3:56:03 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I wish my headtube was normal person sized. I love those set up as Porteur 
> bags. 

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[RBW] Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

[Edwin W]

Or seem cheap... 
Compare it to the Merckx 70 

!


It's all relative,

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

[Zed Martinez]

My Riv? Heck, my car was cheaper than that, new.

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 6:17:34 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Or seem cheap... 
> Compare it to the Merckx 70 
> 
> !
>
>
> It's all relative,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Build help needed

[Edwin W]

Soo... continuing in my Clem build project, as I was installing my vintage 
sugino gp crank set with 165mm arms, I hit the chain stay with the chain ring. 
I was upset at scratching the chain stay, but I'm set on having this bike for 
the long haul, so it will get scratched. (But THIS early?). 
Anyway, do I need a longer spindle or whatever for a bottom bracket? New bottom 
bracket?

Thanks in advance for the guidance. 
Still learning,
Edwin

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[RBW] Re: FS: Mollusk chino Walk Shorts.

[Nick Ybarra]

Message sent.  If anyone's ever looking to get rid of 28 waist stuff, let 
me know!  It's actually kind of hard to shop for my narrow waist size.  A 
whole lot of manufacturers only go down to 30.  

-Nick

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>
> a little off topic, i just dont know what to do with these. Got 2 pairs of 
> these mollusk shorts as a gift and was flattered that the giver thought i 
> might be a 28 waist...im not... maybe you are though.  they are brand new 
> with tags. one olive, one navy, MUSA.   retail for 70$ each.  how about 50$ 
> shipped for the pair?
>
>
> http://mollusksurfshop.com/collections/mens-autumn-2015/products/walk-shorts-mash-green?variant=1104943245
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[iamkeith]

I just used Testors enamel.  Gloss white, mixed with the tinniest bit of 
yellow will match the crème color perfectly.

Don't waste your time with masking tape.  (I tried)  Just use a good 
quality, fine, detail brush.

For the lettering on the napkin rings (headtube reinforcers) just splooge 
the paint in, and wipe off the surface.   Helps if the paint consistency is 
not too thin and runny.

I did not sand or prep the surface, other than wiping it with thinner.   
Hopefully the fact that it's new and hasn't been handled much and the 
protection of being recessed will make it stick.  If not, its easy enough 
to re-do as needed.

It occurs to me that the gray, on the other hand, is going to be tougher.  
 It is beautiful, but the pearlescent properties are going to make 
it difficult to ever come up with a satisfactory touch-up color.   Like 
orange-Rambouillet-difficult.  Have to keep reminding myself that it is a 
Clem and meant to be abused - beautiful or not!

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 5:44:12 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:

> iamkeith, what kind paint did you use?  I want to do the same kind of 
> detailing.  Half tempted to use fingernail polish, but you seem to have 
> cracked the code here.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[Kainalu]

Bottom bracket height is as big a factor to this sweet spot as anything, yes? 
Presumably Rivendell bikes and similarly low bottomed machines give us the 
tools to go extra puffed?
-Kai
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2 MUSA Wool T shirts - Cobalt Blue XL

[Julian]

They've already sold. Thanks. 


On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 12:02:02 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote:
>
> i'll take them, let me know your paypal!
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 5:40:34 AM UTC-8, Julian wrote:
>>
>> FS: 2 indistinguishable from new Riv MUSA lightweight merino wool  XL 
>> short sleeve t-shirts in cobalt blue. $70 shipped w/in the CONUS. Paypal 
>> friends payment. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Mollusk chino Walk Shorts.

[drew]

sold and gone



On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 2:52:16 PM UTC-8, drew wrote:
>
> a little off topic, i just dont know what to do with these. Got 2 pairs of 
> these mollusk shorts as a gift and was flattered that the giver thought i 
> might be a 28 waist...im not... maybe you are though.  they are brand new 
> with tags. one olive, one navy, MUSA.   retail for 70$ each.  how about 50$ 
> shipped for the pair?
>
>
> http://mollusksurfshop.com/collections/mens-autumn-2015/products/walk-shorts-mash-green?variant=1104943245
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[Mitch Browne]

For comparison I mounted a 700c x 38 Barlow pass on a Mavic A719 rim
and added measurement to findings below:

Month old  Barlow Pass 35mm @ 50 PSI
New SL reads 37.4 mm @ 41.4 PSI
One week old EX reads 40 mm @ 41.2 PSI

I won't have a chance to ride around but

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Daniel Jackson
 wrote:
> I've taken the EX version of this tire on the dirt and paved roads of
> northern VT over the last month. About 50 miles on class 4 road, 200 miles
> on maintained dirt/gravel, and 200 miles on pavement
>
> I'm 175 lbs. Ive settled on front at 35 PSI and rear at 45 PSI.
>
> Take following assessment with a grain of salt, as I switched out Marathon
> Supremes when I put these on - so the difference is rather drastic. That
> said, I have ridden EL Barlows on the same bike about a year ago, so
> appreciate the supple tire revolution.
>
> Overall, they do what a supple tire should do, and I imagine the SLs do so
> as well as EL Barlows for a fraction of the price. Much of the road chatter
> and noise typical of the Supremes is significantly dampened by these
> beauties. I notice great grab while climbing through and cornering in the
> loose stuff, i.e., performance subjectively akin to EL Barlows.
>
> I went with the EX because of where I ride and hope for longer life. A
> friend of mine has the SLs and I plan to swap out for comparison at some
> point - but I fear its time to put the Ice Spiker Pros back on for the
> coming snows.
>
> If you've never tried a supple tire, these are a great entry. If you've worn
> out your beautiful EL Compass tires, these would make a good cheaper
> alternative. TIME WILL TELL whether or not they're durable.
>
> They measure 40mm on my Velocity 700c Chukkar rims.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[Mitch Browne]

The Barlow Pass measurement should read 35mm @ 40 PSI

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 9:50:45 AM UTC-8, Mitch Browne wrote:
>
> For comparison I mounted a 700c x 38 Barlow pass on a Mavic A719 rim 
> and added measurement to findings below: 
>
> Month old  Barlow Pass 35mm @ 50 PSI 
> New SL reads 37.4 mm @ 41.4 PSI 
> One week old EX reads 40 mm @ 41.2 PSI 
>
> I won't have a chance to ride around but 
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Daniel Jackson 
>  wrote: 
> > I've taken the EX version of this tire on the dirt and paved roads of 
> > northern VT over the last month. About 50 miles on class 4 road, 200 
> miles 
> > on maintained dirt/gravel, and 200 miles on pavement 
> > 
> > I'm 175 lbs. Ive settled on front at 35 PSI and rear at 45 PSI. 
> > 
> > Take following assessment with a grain of salt, as I switched out 
> Marathon 
> > Supremes when I put these on - so the difference is rather drastic. That 
> > said, I have ridden EL Barlows on the same bike about a year ago, so 
> > appreciate the supple tire revolution. 
> > 
> > Overall, they do what a supple tire should do, and I imagine the SLs do 
> so 
> > as well as EL Barlows for a fraction of the price. Much of the road 
> chatter 
> > and noise typical of the Supremes is significantly dampened by these 
> > beauties. I notice great grab while climbing through and cornering in 
> the 
> > loose stuff, i.e., performance subjectively akin to EL Barlows. 
> > 
> > I went with the EX because of where I ride and hope for longer life. A 
> > friend of mine has the SLs and I plan to swap out for comparison at some 
> > point - but I fear its time to put the Ice Spiker Pros back on for the 
> > coming snows. 
> > 
> > If you've never tried a supple tire, these are a great entry. If you've 
> worn 
> > out your beautiful EL Compass tires, these would make a good cheaper 
> > alternative. TIME WILL TELL whether or not they're durable. 
> > 
> > They measure 40mm on my Velocity 700c Chukkar rims. 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: New fat 700 tires! 700x42 ultra light

[Bill Lindsay]

IMO, no.  Bottom Bracket height has been shown by some of the deepest 
thinkers about bikes to have very little to do with actual stability on the 
bike.  Grant likes low BB because it makes it far easier to get the bars 
up.  Low BBs get you the risk of pedal strike when you use small diameter 
tires, and the converse that you point out is true: low BBs give you 
permission to run large diameter tires.  

Jan Heine concluded that BB height on its own has very little to do with 
handling at all.  The general consensus is that BB height is very 
meaningful to fit the person on the bike comfortably, but has little to do 
with how the bike rides.  Objectors to that conventional wisdom will state 
anecdotes "I had a bike with a high BB and it rode like crap" etc.  That 
doesn't prove that BB height had anything to do with the bike riding like 
crap.  Correlation vs Causation.  

All of the above, IMHO, ATMO.  

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 9:10:16 AM UTC-8, Kainalu wrote:
>
> Bottom bracket height is as big a factor to this sweet spot as anything, 
> yes? Presumably Rivendell bikes and similarly low bottomed machines give us 
> the tools to go extra puffed?
> -Kai
> Brooklyn NY 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Joe Bernard]

My favorite Sachsism is when he would offer something for sale: "Please 
reply if you're interesting." ;-)

On Thursday, November 5, 2015 at 10:53:25 PM UTC-8, Evan E. wrote:
>
> If I recall, Richard Sachs doesn't just use "ATMO" as shorthand for 
> "according to my opinion." He also uses it as a period, a comma, an 
> interjection, a pause! Anyway, he certainly makes beautiful and functional 
> bicycles—and he's inspired and helped many, many riders and builders over 
> the years.
>

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