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[RBW] Re: Consolidating some of the reminder threads into an FAQ thread?

2016-04-07 Thread Joe Bernard

It's been a week, people. I don't think this is gonna happen. 

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[RBW] Re: Saddles, epilogue

2016-04-07 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv

I went with the Pearl. Fingers crossed.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 4:44:14 PM UTC+3, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Which model did you decide on? I've been eyeing the new-ish Loveland model 
> for my wife's Clementine. Seems to be very similar to the discontinued 
> Brooks B68. 
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 8:22:13 AM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>
>> I ordered the Rivet.
>> That means I will have an almost new Honey B17 Imperial for sale in a 
>> couple weeks.
>> Stay tuned.
>>  
>> Jay
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: EDM / Tap Burner

2016-04-07 Thread Kurt Manley

Curious if you ever figured this out and how?

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 8:14:42 AM UTC-7, Joe Szokoli wrote:
>
> I wondering if anyone out there can help. I'm building a Randonee bike up 
> for a friend and I have a big problem. I've broken a bolt off in a brake 
> boss, and then in hindsight, stupidly an ez-out as well.  As I've been told 
> by a couple of people, never think that a ez-out will work, NEVER ever go 
> that route.
>
> From my understanding fixing this mess is a job that a EDM / tap burnercan 
> do. But I have had no luck locating anyone locally that can do the work. 
> Does anyone have someone they could recommend?
>
> Thanks you for your time,
>
> -- 
> Joe Szokoli
> New York City
>

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[RBW] Re: Consolidating some of the reminder threads into an FAQ thread?

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam

I seventh that emotion.

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[RBW] First S24O of 2016, and first on my Appaloosa, tonight!

2016-04-07 Thread M D Smith

Bill Wrote:

One sub-optimal finding is that I've found that I don't have a water bottle 
small enough to fit into an Iris cage in the third position under the downtube. 
 The smallest bottles I have still hit the fender (P65).  There's water at the 
campsite, so I'm not going to worry about it tonight, but I do want to be able 
to run three bottles someday.  Maybe I can tweak the fender position.  Maybe a 
different cage will position the bottle lower.  Etc.

To which I repy:

Remember back in the olden days, when what are now considered normal bottles 
were "large" and there were smaller sized bottles (without the upper section) 
that were considered "normal?"

Well, see if you can find one of those.  I specifically sought one out for a 
long tour I did and was happy that I made that decision.  I often found myself 
filling up on water in gas station bathrooms.  More often than not, the spigot 
on the sinks were so short that it made the filling of a larger bottle 
impossible.  The only way to refill, I found, was to use the small bottle and 
fill the larger bottles from it.  It was actually a trick I learned (or rather 
an issue I discovered) on an earlier shake down mini tour.

Enjoy your trip!

Cheers- Mike in Bklyn, NY

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[RBW] Re: FS Joe Appaloosa Drive Train

2016-04-07 Thread Beardpapa

I'll take your shifters and brake levers!

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Re: [RBW] Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar




On 04/06/2016 11:22 PM, DonandDebi Ward wrote:

I have the Berthoud Aravis which is extremely comfortable and have used for 
several brevets of various lengths.  It took about 500 miles before it was just 
right, I have about 5,000  miles on this saddle.


The Aravis is the Ti rail version; the steel railed version of this 
saddle is called the Aspin, and it's about $85 less.   I've got four of 
the Aspins and one Aravis.  Totally agree about the 500 miles.




I also have a Rivet Pearl which I also like, it took  1,000 miles before it was 
just right but the cut out irritated my privates a bit.  I solved that by using 
a saddles cover all the time, probably have 2,000 miles on this one.


I tried a Pearl (and and Indy) and neither worked for me.




Just put a brand new Brooks C17 on one of my rando bikes went for a 30 mile 
ride after work.  First ride out of the box just as comfortable as my Berthoud 
and more comfortable than the Rivet.  Half the price of the Berthoud and less 
than the Rivet.  Better looking, better construction than the Rivet and on par 
in both these areas w the Berthoud.  Absolutely no break in period necessary 
with the C17.  Will be buying more c17's in the future for dome of my other 
bikes.


.


Took a C17 around the parking lot on a friend's bike and it didn't work 
for me at all, couldn't bear to be on it.


YMMV for sure.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar


What do you think, does this pass the Turing test?

On 04/07/2016 07:07 PM, Garth wrote:
It's self-explanatory  . .  . .  I expressed it as so because I cannot 
deny or question it.  Absolute means Absolute , Absolutely. Whole. 
Total. Complete. Infinite. Self Existent. Anything less/other than to 
it would be the only bullshit. Since there is nothing else, there is 
nothing to bullshit..


And that's all there is to say on that.


On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

Would you be willing to share the code for your aphorism generator
with the list?



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[RBW] Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread DonandDebi Ward

I have the Berthoud Aravis which is extremely comfortable and have used for 
several brevets of various lengths.  It took about 500 miles before it was just 
right, I have about 5,000  miles on this saddle.

I also have a Rivet Pearl which I also like, it took  1,000 miles before it was 
just right but the cut out irritated my privates a bit.  I solved that by using 
a saddles cover all the time, probably have 2,000 miles on this one.

Just put a brand new Brooks C17 on one of my rando bikes went for a 30 mile 
ride after work.  First ride out of the box just as comfortable as my Berthoud 
and more comfortable than the Rivet.  Half the price of the Berthoud and less 
than the Rivet.  Better looking, better construction than the Rivet and on par 
in both these areas w the Berthoud.  Absolutely no break in period necessary 
with the C17.  Will be buying more c17's in the future for dome of my other 
bikes.


.

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[RBW] FS: 700c Phil Wood Wheelset

2016-04-07 Thread CMR


Hi all, clearing a few wheelsets, looking to sell local to SF Bay Area 
because shipping wheels always seems to be expensive. Pics on the CL posts 
linked, but discount for forum members.


Phil Wood Rivendell "rivy" rear hub laced to Velocity Dyad, built by Rich 
Lesnick of Hands On Wheels. 700c, spaced to 130mm but able to move to 135mm 
with proper spacer. Uses a freewheel, I'll throw in a 6 speed for free! 
Front hub is also Phil Wood, in same polish, but not the Rivendell 
addition. Laced to Ritchey rim.

Panaracer Pasela TG 32's and tubes.

$350 on Craigslist, $300 for forum members

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/5526596621.html
-

Thanks!

Chris
Oakland, CA

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[RBW] Re: Centerpulls vs. cantis

2016-04-07 Thread RichS

Shout out here for Shimano CX70s. Nice brakes. Better results after 
replacing the factory link wire with a conventional straddle cable.

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 12:27:35 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> 1.Which are better for use with fork braze ons and why? For recreational 
> road riding.
>
> 2. Is either just fine? I'm guessing it is but the more online stuff I 
> read, the more overthinking results.
>
> Funny how before I started online bike reading everything about my bikes 
> was just fine.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

2016-04-07 Thread Alex Wirth

I've been riding with the IQ-X for a couple weeks now and LOVE it.  For me, the 
best thing about it is the fact that it cuts through the shadows and bright 
areas during urban riding for a consistent view of the road/irregularities (due 
to its bright output).

Two thumbs up.

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Re: [RBW] Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Lee Legrand

Do you have anything to hold it there? Typical, there are pump pegs to hold
pumps on the seat stay.  I am thinking of a classic look but maybe you are
going with the manufacturers attachment which is typically made to fit on
the main tubes, not the skinny seat stays.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Pierre  wrote:

> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>
> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear
> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>
> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may
> get in the way if placed on TT).
>
> Pierre
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer Brakes

2016-04-07 Thread Patrick Shea

My mistake on the Racer/racer medium specs. I think the specs I saw were
only on the website for a very brief period of time and I think I was the
only person to see them!

Still Reaching,
Patrick

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> "I checked the Pauls website and, even though the two look different, the
> Racer models have the same reach specs. One brake looks bigger "
>
> Where exactly are you reading that?  Maybe there is a typo somewhere.
>
> Here's the page for Racer M (M=Medium):  LINK
> 
> Reach 47-57mm
>
> Here's the page for the Racer:  LINK
> 
> Reach 57-67mm
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Consolidating some of the reminder threads into an FAQ thread?

2016-04-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo

A hearty Sixithed... :)

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[RBW] Re: New Nitto front rack?

2016-04-07 Thread Joe Bernard

Well, that's pretty nifty. A couple years ago there was a BLUG post about an 
older fellow with an heavily-ridden Atlantis that had front and rear racks. The 
man said he didn't really need the front Big Rack, but liked the way it looks. 
That'd be me with this one on my Pletschered and Carradiced 26-inch-wheel CLEM: 
I don't need all that front rack, but I want one anyway!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Velocity Atlas 135mm wheelset

2016-04-07 Thread dstein

wheelset sold!

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 3:43:26 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> Correction, one of these is an Atlas rim, the other Aeroheat, from 
> rivendell: "If Velocity runs out of ATLAS rims, we may sub its 
> AEROHEAT/DYAD model. That is a good one, too."
>
> Just got a Velocity box from Rivendell today, can ship to the lower 48 for 
> $300 out the door , usps ground. $30 more for 2 day priority.
>

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[RBW] First S24O of 2016, and first on my Appaloosa, tonight!

2016-04-07 Thread WETH

Bill,
That is so cool that he wants to do this!
Enjoy the trip!
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Hat quest

2016-04-07 Thread Deacon Patrick

Clarity of vision is an over-rated feature in a hat! Sardonic grin. Glad no 
trees or cars or rivers jumped in front of you!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 5:43:39 PM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:
>
> Funny thing about non bikey hats. I had an "experience" on my recent ride 
> in The Dalles wherein I was doing a windey descent at about 30mph into a 
> good headwind with a Cabelas camo cowboy-ish hat with a strap. I figured 
> that when the hat came off, it would swing back and ride behind me in the 
> wind. What actually happened when it popped off was it swung forward and 
> covered my face neatly blocking all view. Scary moment...

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[RBW] Hat quest

2016-04-07 Thread stonehog

Funny thing about non bikey hats. I had an "experience" on my recent ride in 
The Dalles wherein I was doing a windey descent at about 30mph into a good 
headwind with a Cabelas camo cowboy-ish hat with a strap. I figured that when 
the hat came off, it would swing back and ride behind me in the wind. What 
actually happened when it popped off was it swung forward and covered my face 
neatly blocking all view. Scary moment...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Garth

It's self-explanatory  . .  . .  I expressed it as so because I cannot deny 
or question it.  Absolute means Absolute , Absolutely. Whole. Total. 
Complete. Infinite. Self Existent. Anything less/other than to it would be 
the only bullshit. Since there is nothing else, there is nothing to 
bullshit..

And that's all there is to say on that. 

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Would you be willing to share the code for your aphorism generator with 
> the list?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Nitto front rack?

2016-04-07 Thread EGNolan

Bill Lindsay! Gravel & Grind just put a shot on their instagram of this 
rack on an ol' Univega MTB, looks like it plays especially nice w/ 26" 
wheels and the lower/fender mount on the front dropout... found HERE 
.

Best,
Eric
Indpls

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 1:18:35 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I was doing some price comparison of Nitto stuff, and I usually just 
> search "Nitto" at both Ben's Cycle and at Alex's to get a feel for things. 
>  While scanning Ben's I saw this front rack that I had never seen before. 
>  It's called the F25.  
>
> http://www.benscycle.com/p-25908-nitto-campee-f25-lowrider-front-rack.aspx
>
>
>
> That's got some cute details that I havent seen before.  It's got the 
> splayed out shape that Francophiles like, but it's got a tall thin shape to 
> fit more normal panniers.  No removable lowriders and a completely flat, 
> tombstone free top platform.  There are no light mount positons to be seen, 
> which might be a bummer, and I can't tell from the photo how it avoids 
> interfering with the front QR skewer, but it's always fun to see a Nitto 
> Rack that I've never seen before.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Mark Reimer

Huh, never would have thought a 2mm thicker saddle would be more 
comfortable than a thinner one. I love the Special because it doesn't feel 
like a granite counter top. But having just worn one out in under 2 years, 
I guess you must be on to something... 

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 4:49:57 PM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>
> Oh great, dueling bullshit.  Nice photo though.

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[RBW] Re: Consolidating some of the reminder threads into an FAQ thread?

2016-04-07 Thread Mike in WA

Fifthed. Less clutter, please!

On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 6:46:41 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> fourthed.  It'd make a cleaner interface.
>
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 4:05:42 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thirdeded. And that's mostly on a desktop.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 3:54:33 PM UTC-6, Justin August wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey folks-
>>> Would the admin mind consolidating some of the reminder threads that are 
>>> pinned at the top of the Google group? Using it on mobile I have to scroll 
>>> a whole page down to get to the content. Just a thought. 
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread islaysteve

Oh great, dueling bullshit.  Nice photo though.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar

http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/

On 04/07/2016 05:31 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Oh, silly grasshoppers!  His Garthness is Absolute and Perfect, 
therefore when astride his bicycle forgoes earthly constraints such as 
saddles.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

Would you be willing to share the code for your aphorism generator
with the list?

On 04/07/2016 12:05 PM, Garth wrote:

The Absolute could not BE The Absolute and there be "other than
Absolute" (imperfect of course because it would not be Absolute)

.where would the "you" that does not agree be ?

that's all I have to say about that ;)

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 10:50:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar
wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:32 AM, Garth wrote:
> Yes . . . . been on they endless search for the perfect
saddle,
> oh heck . .  .. everything !  But damn funny this just
happened .  . .
> . "for the saddle to be perfect the rider must also be
perfect. It is
> impossible for perfection to exist with imperfection. " .
Huh .   How
> about that . .  . . . kinda stops the clamor for changing
anything .
> Huh .

Go for a long ride on a bike with a saddle that doesn't fit
you. Your
a$$ will clamor plenty, and you won't give a damn whether you
are
perfect or not, you'll just want something to make the pain
stop.  And
chances are, you will be able to find one that works. Even
imperfect
people deserve a pain-free ride, and philosophical absolutes
in practice
are little more than hot air.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

Oh, silly grasshoppers!  His Garthness is Absolute and Perfect, therefore 
when astride his bicycle forgoes earthly constraints such as saddles.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Would you be willing to share the code for your aphorism generator with 
> the list?
>
> On 04/07/2016 12:05 PM, Garth wrote:
>
>
> The Absolute could not BE The Absolute and there be "other than Absolute" 
> (imperfect of course because it would not be Absolute) 
>
> .where would the "you" that does not agree be ?
>
> that's all I have to say about that ;)
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 10:50:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/07/2016 10:32 AM, Garth wrote: 
>> > Yes . . . . been on they endless search for the perfect saddle,   
>> > oh heck . .  .. everything !  But damn funny this just happened .  . . 
>> > . "for the saddle to be perfect the rider must also be perfect. It is 
>> > impossible for perfection to exist with imperfection. " . Huh .   How 
>> > about that . .  . . . kinda stops the clamor for changing anything . 
>> > Huh . 
>>
>>
>> Go for a long ride on a bike with a saddle that doesn't fit you. Your 
>> a$$ will clamor plenty, and you won't give a damn whether you are 
>> perfect or not, you'll just want something to make the pain stop.  And 
>> chances are, you will be able to find one that works. Even imperfect 
>> people deserve a pain-free ride, and philosophical absolutes in practice 
>> are little more than hot air. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Best advice for securing bikes in a garage

2016-04-07 Thread Rod Holland

I keep a 32' aluminum extension ladder ly1ng against one wall of the garage. I 
find it works well as an improvised bike rack, and lock 3 bikes to it. Of 
course, a determined thief with the right tools, operating unobserved, could 
defeat this, but the garage is normally locked. So far, so good.

rod

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[RBW] Re: First S24O of 2016, and first on my Appaloosa, tonight!

2016-04-07 Thread Manuel Acosta

Give me a call if you guys need anything I'm literally down the street on 
chabot road.

You should still have my number...



On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 11:53:12 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My 14 year old son is on Spring Break, and one of the things he wanted to 
> do was go on an S24O.  I'm leaving the office early, and we'll ride ~28 
> miles from home in El Cerrito to Lake Chabot Regional Park.  Tomorrow 
> morning we'll get up, break camp and ride the ~15miles down through Castro 
> Valley to my office in Union City.  I'll keep him busy in the lab during 
> the workday Friday.
>
> Me: 55cm Joe Appaloosa.  Him: 52cm Yves Gomez.  I'll be running most of 
> the cargo, with a Nitto Big Front Rack, Sackville Backabike panniers (on 
> the front) a Wald big basket, and a Sackville Saddlesack Medium (no rear 
> rack).  He'll have a Platrack and a Sackville Slickersack setup.
>
> One sub-optimal finding is that I've found that I don't have a water 
> bottle small enough to fit into an Iris cage in the third position under 
> the downtube.  The smallest bottles I have still hit the fender (P65). 
>  There's water at the campsite, so I'm not going to worry about it tonight, 
> but I do want to be able to run three bottles someday.  Maybe I can tweak 
> the fender position.  Maybe a different cage will position the bottle 
> lower.  Etc.
>
> Wish us luck!  Our in the tent passtime will be:  Cribbage!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis 2tt F/F $1450

2016-04-07 Thread Michael Williams

hey group,   Up for sale is a 64cm Atlantis,  2 top tubes,   ~ 18months young!  
 The bike is just a bit too big.  Asking $1450 for frame/ fork packing/ 
shipping.   If at all interested,  message me off list please!   Thanks!  -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer Brakes

2016-04-07 Thread Bill Lindsay

"I checked the Pauls website and, even though the two look different, the 
Racer models have the same reach specs. One brake looks bigger "

Where exactly are you reading that?  Maybe there is a typo somewhere.  

Here's the page for Racer M (M=Medium):  LINK 
 
Reach 47-57mm

Here's the page for the Racer:  LINK 

Reach 57-67mm

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer Brakes

2016-04-07 Thread David Banzer

That's a Racer M, which has less reach than a regular Racer.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 3:28:07 PM UTC-5, Patrick Shea wrote:
>
> Here's a few pics of my 650b conversion with Pauls. I did the measuring 
> first (big thanks Michael and Tim!), then I moved the pads all the way 
> down. mounted it, and I'm still several mms away from it all working out.
>
> I checked the Pauls website and, even though the two look different, the 
> Racer models have the same reach specs. One brake looks bigger 
>
>  .
>
> 
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Michael Hechmer  > wrote:
>
>> Patrick,  when you do a 650b conversion you lower the rims by 19 mm.  
>> Since the Racers go to 57-67, they should work on any conversion from 38 
>> which is common for short reach brakes to 48.  Standard reach brakes are 
>> usually 37 - 47.  So if the brakes you have don't work I feel sure they are 
>> Racer Ms.  I have those on my Ram and they are great for that bike.  If you 
>> are going to use 650B x 38 these brakes will work, but if you want an even 
>> wider tire you would need to deflate the tires to put the wheels on & off.  
>> The brakes are specked for 55 mm fenders, but I have squeezed VO 60 mms 
>> under these.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 9:11:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Shea wrote:
>>>
>>> I put the rear Pauls Racer that I have and it was not even close. They 
>>> don't reach by quite a bit. Maybe  I have the mediums? 
>>>
>>> IAC, the 650b conversion involves a 1995ish Riv Road model (700c.) I 
>>> need more cushion and am hoping the 40mm 650b tire will spare my right 
>>> wrist some agony.
>>>
>>> So, I like the idea of the Pauls but I don't want to buy them and find 
>>> out they don't work. The Tektros are my next plan, once I can find some to 
>>> measure.
>>>
>>> And a big thank you for the great information in this thread!  
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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[RBW] Re: First S24O of 2016, and first on my Appaloosa, tonight!

2016-04-07 Thread Deacon Patrick

Sweet!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:53:12 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My 14 year old son is on Spring Break, and one of the things he wanted to 
> do was go on an S24O.  I'm leaving the office early, and we'll ride ~28 
> miles from home in El Cerrito to Lake Chabot Regional Park.  Tomorrow 
> morning we'll get up, break camp and ride the ~15miles down through Castro 
> Valley to my office in Union City.  I'll keep him busy in the lab during 
> the workday Friday.
>
> Me: 55cm Joe Appaloosa.  Him: 52cm Yves Gomez.  I'll be running most of 
> the cargo, with a Nitto Big Front Rack, Sackville Backabike panniers (on 
> the front) a Wald big basket, and a Sackville Saddlesack Medium (no rear 
> rack).  He'll have a Platrack and a Sackville Slickersack setup.
>
> One sub-optimal finding is that I've found that I don't have a water 
> bottle small enough to fit into an Iris cage in the third position under 
> the downtube.  The smallest bottles I have still hit the fender (P65). 
>  There's water at the campsite, so I'm not going to worry about it tonight, 
> but I do want to be able to run three bottles someday.  Maybe I can tweak 
> the fender position.  Maybe a different cage will position the bottle 
> lower.  Etc.
>
> Wish us luck!  Our in the tent passtime will be:  Cribbage!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] First S24O of 2016, and first on my Appaloosa, tonight!

2016-04-07 Thread René Sterental

Awesome plan!

On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> My 14 year old son is on Spring Break, and one of the things he wanted to
> do was go on an S24O.  I'm leaving the office early, and we'll ride ~28
> miles from home in El Cerrito to Lake Chabot Regional Park.  Tomorrow
> morning we'll get up, break camp and ride the ~15miles down through Castro
> Valley to my office in Union City.  I'll keep him busy in the lab during
> the workday Friday.
>
> Me: 55cm Joe Appaloosa.  Him: 52cm Yves Gomez.  I'll be running most of
> the cargo, with a Nitto Big Front Rack, Sackville Backabike panniers (on
> the front) a Wald big basket, and a Sackville Saddlesack Medium (no rear
> rack).  He'll have a Platrack and a Sackville Slickersack setup.
>
> One sub-optimal finding is that I've found that I don't have a water
> bottle small enough to fit into an Iris cage in the third position under
> the downtube.  The smallest bottles I have still hit the fender (P65).
> There's water at the campsite, so I'm not going to worry about it tonight,
> but I do want to be able to run three bottles someday.  Maybe I can tweak
> the fender position.  Maybe a different cage will position the bottle
> lower.  Etc.
>
> Wish us luck!  Our in the tent passtime will be:  Cribbage!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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[RBW] Re: Low-Profile Canti Recommendation.

2016-04-07 Thread Bill Lindsay

David

I have some used Pauls.  We should trade for a few chainrings, if I can 
just figure out what I need.  

Bill

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 9:56:21 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I added a Pass & Stow porteur rack to my Clem. The Tektro CR720 brakes I'm 
> using stick out and happen to be right at the level where panniers would 
> mount. Looks like I'll need to swap to a low profile canti for the front, 
> and I'd like to have a matching set, so I'll swap the rear brake as well.
> Paul Touring brake is high on my list, but if I wanted a less expensive 
> brake, what recommendations does the list have for low-profile canti 
> brakes? Preferably in silver.
> I suppose if you have a lightly used set of something to sell, I'd be 
> interested.
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] Re: Low-Profile Canti Recommendation.

2016-04-07 Thread David Banzer

A lister offered a set of the IRD Cafams, original version, so I'll try 
those out. At some point I'll spring for Paul Touring, but for now, I'll 
give these a shot.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 2:00:46 PM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
>
> The original IRD Cafam cantis were low-profile and always got good reviews.
> I would hunt down a pair of Paul Touring via eBay/Craigslist/Pinkbike/etc. 
> You can do 1 wheel at a time and they are very much worth it. After trying 
> too many "kinda sorta ok" brakes I'm settled into paying the $$$ for Paul 
> or hunting for used whether it be centerpull, canti or V-brake. I don't 
> know about their discs but I assume they are great.
>
> -Justin
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 9:56:21 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> I added a Pass & Stow porteur rack to my Clem. The Tektro CR720 brakes 
>> I'm using stick out and happen to be right at the level where panniers 
>> would mount. Looks like I'll need to swap to a low profile canti for the 
>> front, and I'd like to have a matching set, so I'll swap the rear brake as 
>> well.
>> Paul Touring brake is high on my list, but if I wanted a less expensive 
>> brake, what recommendations does the list have for low-profile canti 
>> brakes? Preferably in silver.
>> I suppose if you have a lightly used set of something to sell, I'd be 
>> interested.
>> Thanks,
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Jim Bronson

Just to be contrary, I use a Terry Liberator Y Gel and it's the favorite
saddle I've ever had.
On Apr 5, 2016 9:41 AM, "Jay in Tel Aviv"  wrote:

> Seeking the collective wisdom of the group before spending $$ on
> another new saddle that may or may not fit me on my Sam Hillborne.
>
> HISTORY
> Brooks B17N - too narrow, what was I thinking?
> Brooks B17 - OK, never really comfortable, just OK. Have to sit way back
> for sufficient width
> Selle Anatomica - very comfortable even if slightly narrower than the B17.
> Perfect except for the broken rims. Bent 2 - no mas.
> Brooks C17 - OK, similar to the B17
> Brooks B17 imperial (with laces and cutout) - similar to B17. This time I
> used emperical observation to check the width. I used my han to feel under
> the saddle for my sit bones. Sitting all the way back, one is just insode
> the rivets and the other is actually hanging off. Saddle is all the way
> back on a VO setback post. Alba bars.
>
> IDEAS
> Brooks B68 - no longer made
> Brooks C19 - wider than the B17
> Rivet Pearl - slightly narrower than the B17 but people seem to love them
> and the Selle Anatomicas were great until they broke.
> Great prices for either on xxcycle.com
>
> What say you wise folks?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Low-Profile Canti Recommendation.

2016-04-07 Thread Justin August

The original IRD Cafam cantis were low-profile and always got good reviews.
I would hunt down a pair of Paul Touring via eBay/Craigslist/Pinkbike/etc. 
You can do 1 wheel at a time and they are very much worth it. After trying 
too many "kinda sorta ok" brakes I'm settled into paying the $$$ for Paul 
or hunting for used whether it be centerpull, canti or V-brake. I don't 
know about their discs but I assume they are great.

-Justin

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 9:56:21 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I added a Pass & Stow porteur rack to my Clem. The Tektro CR720 brakes I'm 
> using stick out and happen to be right at the level where panniers would 
> mount. Looks like I'll need to swap to a low profile canti for the front, 
> and I'd like to have a matching set, so I'll swap the rear brake as well.
> Paul Touring brake is high on my list, but if I wanted a less expensive 
> brake, what recommendations does the list have for low-profile canti 
> brakes? Preferably in silver.
> I suppose if you have a lightly used set of something to sell, I'd be 
> interested.
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] First S24O of 2016, and first on my Appaloosa, tonight!

2016-04-07 Thread Bill Lindsay

My 14 year old son is on Spring Break, and one of the things he wanted to 
do was go on an S24O.  I'm leaving the office early, and we'll ride ~28 
miles from home in El Cerrito to Lake Chabot Regional Park.  Tomorrow 
morning we'll get up, break camp and ride the ~15miles down through Castro 
Valley to my office in Union City.  I'll keep him busy in the lab during 
the workday Friday.

Me: 55cm Joe Appaloosa.  Him: 52cm Yves Gomez.  I'll be running most of the 
cargo, with a Nitto Big Front Rack, Sackville Backabike panniers (on the 
front) a Wald big basket, and a Sackville Saddlesack Medium (no rear rack). 
 He'll have a Platrack and a Sackville Slickersack setup.

One sub-optimal finding is that I've found that I don't have a water bottle 
small enough to fit into an Iris cage in the third position under the 
downtube.  The smallest bottles I have still hit the fender (P65).  There's 
water at the campsite, so I'm not going to worry about it tonight, but I do 
want to be able to run three bottles someday.  Maybe I can tweak the fender 
position.  Maybe a different cage will position the bottle lower.  Etc.

Wish us luck!  Our in the tent passtime will be:  Cribbage!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cazadero lumpy bumpy

2016-04-07 Thread Hugh Smitham

Update:

So I used the soapy solution and applied it to the tire bead and it helped.
However there is still a slight hop. Next I'll add a second layer of rim
tape and report back. Thanks all to your help.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/



On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Neil Doran  wrote:

> I've had this issue before. Once it was resolved by going to high pressure
> to make sure the bead is properly seated, but you already tried that.
>
> I blame the tube. I've had more than a little bad luck with faulty tubes
> that will have a massive bulge at a thin spot. Also had this problem, for
> some reason, repeatedly using Schwalbe 650B tubes within a Panaracer on a
> VO rim. Switched to 26" tubes and the fit was perfect, with no more hop.
>
> I'd try a new (name brand) 26" tube. Good luck, it's an annoying problem
> to have.
>
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:59:36 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>> I have my cazaderos mounted front Pacenti PL 23 rim no problem other than
>> hell to initially mount. Rear mounted on a Velocity Synergy rim and it has
>> a hop to it. I checked the rim against a fixed point and it's true. I can
>> notice the bump and feel it while riding and it's really annoying. I've
>> pumped the tube and tire up to 100 psi but the tire is seated. All I can
>> assume it must be the tube I'm using. Perhaps too large so there's extra
>> mass? Any experiences out there? I've used 26" tubes and "650b" tubes with
>> the same outcome.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>   Los Angeles, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread drew

the pump in bag is a fair point. i have a mini that i toss in a bag on my 
fastest bike. but i swap bags and move stuff around so much, that im never 
sure exactly where it is. the frame pump can just stay. 

issues i encountered when trying to mount on rear triangle, or back of seat 
tube were: 1-when mounted on the seat stay, from drop out corner to top of 
seat tube, the pump pushed my fender inward and it caused rubbing on the 
tire. but i have 50mm tires+fenders.  2-when mounted on the back of the 
seat tube, from bb area to the top, my xt front derailer pushed the pump 
out so that it didnt fit cleanly. the clamp bolt on that particular 
derailer hit it just in the right spot for it not to work. 

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[RBW] Re: Low-Profile Canti Recommendation.

2016-04-07 Thread Brian Campbell

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NOS-Shimano-SLR-Cantilever-Brakes-BR-M734-/121946817875?hash=item1c6498c553:g:9oQAAOSwGotWq8Ab

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Shimano XT. M734 (I think)
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:56:21 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> I added a Pass & Stow porteur rack to my Clem. The Tektro CR720 brakes 
>> I'm using stick out and happen to be right at the level where panniers 
>> would mount. Looks like I'll need to swap to a low profile canti for the 
>> front, and I'd like to have a matching set, so I'll swap the rear brake as 
>> well.
>> Paul Touring brake is high on my list, but if I wanted a less expensive 
>> brake, what recommendations does the list have for low-profile canti 
>> brakes? Preferably in silver.
>> I suppose if you have a lightly used set of something to sell, I'd be 
>> interested.
>> Thanks,
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Low-Profile Canti Recommendation.

2016-04-07 Thread Brian Campbell

Shimano XT. M734 (I think)

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 12:56:21 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I added a Pass & Stow porteur rack to my Clem. The Tektro CR720 brakes I'm 
> using stick out and happen to be right at the level where panniers would 
> mount. Looks like I'll need to swap to a low profile canti for the front, 
> and I'd like to have a matching set, so I'll swap the rear brake as well.
> Paul Touring brake is high on my list, but if I wanted a less expensive 
> brake, what recommendations does the list have for low-profile canti 
> brakes? Preferably in silver.
> I suppose if you have a lightly used set of something to sell, I'd be 
> interested.
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] Low-Profile Canti Recommendation.

2016-04-07 Thread David Banzer

I added a Pass & Stow porteur rack to my Clem. The Tektro CR720 brakes I'm 
using stick out and happen to be right at the level where panniers would 
mount. Looks like I'll need to swap to a low profile canti for the front, 
and I'd like to have a matching set, so I'll swap the rear brake as well.
Paul Touring brake is high on my list, but if I wanted a less expensive 
brake, what recommendations does the list have for low-profile canti 
brakes? Preferably in silver.
I suppose if you have a lightly used set of something to sell, I'd be 
interested.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar

Would you be willing to share the code for your aphorism generator with 
the list?

On 04/07/2016 12:05 PM, Garth wrote:

The Absolute could not BE The Absolute and there be "other than 
Absolute" (imperfect of course because it would not be Absolute)

.where would the "you" that does not agree be ?

that's all I have to say about that ;)

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 10:50:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:32 AM, Garth wrote:
> Yes . . . . been on they endless search for the perfect saddle,
> oh heck . .  .. everything !  But damn funny this just happened
.  . .
> . "for the saddle to be perfect the rider must also be perfect.
It is
> impossible for perfection to exist with imperfection. " . Huh .
  How
> about that . .  . . . kinda stops the clamor for changing
anything .
> Huh .

Go for a long ride on a bike with a saddle that doesn't fit you. Your
a$$ will clamor plenty, and you won't give a damn whether you are
perfect or not, you'll just want something to make the pain stop.
 And
chances are, you will be able to find one that works. Even imperfect
people deserve a pain-free ride, and philosophical absolutes in
practice
are little more than hot air.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Garth


The Absolute could not BE The Absolute and there be "other than Absolute" 
(imperfect of course because it would not be Absolute) 

.where would the "you" that does not agree be ?

that's all I have to say about that ;)



On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 10:50:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 04/07/2016 10:32 AM, Garth wrote: 
> > Yes . . . . been on they endless search for the perfect saddle,   
> > oh heck . .  .. everything !  But damn funny this just happened .  . . 
> > . "for the saddle to be perfect the rider must also be perfect. It is 
> > impossible for perfection to exist with imperfection. " . Huh .   How 
> > about that . .  . . . kinda stops the clamor for changing anything . 
> > Huh . 
>
>
> Go for a long ride on a bike with a saddle that doesn't fit you. Your 
> a$$ will clamor plenty, and you won't give a damn whether you are 
> perfect or not, you'll just want something to make the pain stop.  And 
> chances are, you will be able to find one that works. Even imperfect 
> people deserve a pain-free ride, and philosophical absolutes in practice 
> are little more than hot air. 
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar




On 04/07/2016 11:30 AM, Lungimsam wrote:

Im surprised that, with the massive baggery that goes on around here, you all 
are not just throwing Topeak Morphs into your bags. Plenty-o-room and no chance 
of frame pumps ruining paint jobs, bike lines, and going into spokes.

I think it is about*175-200 pumps*  to inflate my Cypress tar with my Morph 
pump( I forget which Morph model). And it sits perfectly in my Berthoud bag, so 
I know it will fit with plenty of room in those yawning, resounding, vast, 
cavernous, unlimited-litre,  beautiful, Rivbags.



easily twice as many pumps as required with a Zefal HPX


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[RBW] Re: FS Joe Appaloosa Drive Train

2016-04-07 Thread Philip Kim

PM'd.

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 11:12:42 AM UTC-4, James Valiensi wrote:
>
> Brand New Take-off OEM Parts:
> Crankset: $80
> Shimano Bottom Bracket: $20
> Chain: $20
> Cassette, 9speed 12-36: $35
> Shimano Rear Derailleur: $40
> Shimano Front Derailleur: $25
> Thumb Shifters: $25 
> Brake Levers: $20
>
> Shipping costs not included.
>
> vali...@mac.com 
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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam

Im surprised that, with the massive baggery that goes on around here, you all 
are not just throwing Topeak Morphs into your bags. Plenty-o-room and no chance 
of frame pumps ruining paint jobs, bike lines, and going into spokes.

I think it is about 175-200 pumps to inflate my Cypress tar with my Morph pump( 
I forget which Morph model). And it sits perfectly in my Berthoud bag, so I 
know it will fit with plenty of room in those yawning, resounding, vast, 
cavernous, unlimited-litre,  beautiful, Rivbags.

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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam

That right there is a purple carbon eater bike.

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[RBW] Hat quest

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam

Here it is:
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/autumn-2014-bicycle-quarterly/

See, he's got the California plaid shirt on instead of the tartan look. Check 
out the hat.

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[RBW] Hat quest

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam

Ifyou get BQ, Patrick, a few issues back there was a Patrick-like rider during 
the Oregon Outback featured on the cover with a hat on that looks something 
like what you are looking for.

Though he looked more like a California-Arizona-Patrick and less like a 
Scotch-Pikes-Peak kinda guy.

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[RBW] FS Joe Appaloosa Drive Train

2016-04-07 Thread James Valiensi

Brand New Take-off OEM Parts:
Crankset: $80
Shimano Bottom Bracket: $20
Chain: $20
Cassette, 9speed 12-36: $35
Shimano Rear Derailleur: $40
Shimano Front Derailleur: $25
Thumb Shifters: $25 
Brake Levers: $20

Shipping costs not included.

valie...@mac.com

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[RBW] Hat quest

2016-04-07 Thread Lungimsam

Very dapper build on that Nishiki!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar




On 04/07/2016 10:32 AM, Garth wrote:
Yes . . . . been on they endless search for the perfect saddle,  
oh heck . .  .. everything !  But damn funny this just happened .  . . 
. "for the saddle to be perfect the rider must also be perfect. It is 
impossible for perfection to exist with imperfection. " . Huh .   How 
about that . .  . . . kinda stops the clamor for changing anything . 
Huh .



Go for a long ride on a bike with a saddle that doesn't fit you. Your 
a$$ will clamor plenty, and you won't give a damn whether you are 
perfect or not, you'll just want something to make the pain stop.  And 
chances are, you will be able to find one that works. Even imperfect 
people deserve a pain-free ride, and philosophical absolutes in practice 
are little more than hot air.





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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch

This is a 60 cm LHT with a Zefal running along the seat tube.  Obviously 
you need the chainstay clearance.  Normally the pump is under the top tube, 
however those are tent poles wrapped in an old pair of socks lashed down 
for an S24O.


On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 10:15:23 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote:

> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>
> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear 
> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>
> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may 
> get in the way if placed on TT).
>
> Pierre
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddles

2016-04-07 Thread Garth

Yes . . . . been on they endless search for the perfect saddle,  oh 
heck . .  .. everything !  But damn funny this just happened .  . . . "for 
the saddle to be perfect the rider must also be perfect. It is impossible 
for perfection to exist with imperfection. " . Huh .   How about that . .  
. . . kinda stops the clamor for changing anything . Huh .   

, 2016 at 11:21:23 PM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
>
> I've been cycling a long time and haven't found the oerfect saddle yet. 
> Hope this turns out to be the one.
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles, epilogue

2016-04-07 Thread David Banzer

Which model did you decide on? I've been eyeing the new-ish Loveland model 
for my wife's Clementine. Seems to be very similar to the discontinued 
Brooks B68. 
David
Chicago

On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 8:22:13 AM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> I ordered the Rivet.
> That means I will have an almost new Honey B17 Imperial for sale in a 
> couple weeks.
> Stay tuned.
>  
> Jay
>

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[RBW] Saddles, epilogue

2016-04-07 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv

I ordered the Rivet.
That means I will have an almost new Honey B17 Imperial for sale in a 
couple weeks.
Stay tuned.
 
Jay

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[RBW] Re: Kojaks vs supremes

2016-04-07 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv

Thanks, I thought it sounded too good to be true.
The Supremes are plenty fast enough for me anyway. 
 
Jay

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:21:17 PM UTC+3, Joe Bernard wrote:

> I got a flat with Kojaks on my Bike Friday the first month I owned it. 
> Regardless of what the claim is, they look and feel like skinny race tires 
> to me. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread Mark Wilkins

I have a Topeak full-size that I use in the rear triangle of my 60cm
Ram and my 61cm Atlantis, just like the pics of Sean Hipkin's bikes.
I'm not sure of the size of the pump, but I recall using it this way
because it was just a hair too short to fit snugly under the top tube
of my 60cm Ram.

It fits snugly on both the Ram and Atlantis, and I don't use a strap.
If I was riding any rough(-er) terrain, I probably would.

Mark


On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Shoji Takahashi
 wrote:
> Sean Hipkin, formerly of Rivendell, had his frame pump in the rear triangle.
> There are a few pics of his Legolas:
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff9.htm
>
> It doesn't look like he rigged a pump peg, but did use a strap. I tried this
> on my AHH with a Zefal pump from Riv, and it seemed fine. I haven't ridden
> it a lot like that, though.
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 10:15:23 AM UTC-4, Pierre wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking getting a full-size frame pump. I have a 59 cm Hilsen.
>>
>> I am wondering if any frame pump would fit nicely & tightly on the rear
>> triangle (non drive side, on seat stay)?
>>
>> (looking at pictures, it surely looks nice + I think my S&S couplers may
>> get in the way if placed on TT).
>>
>> Pierre
>
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[RBW] Re: Frame pump placement - Rear triangle possible?

2016-04-07 Thread islaysteve

If you dont mind giving up your seat tube water bottle, you can mount a 
Topeake frame pump (and probably others) there easily.  I have the XS size 
for my 51 frame; Topeakes come in about 4 sizes.  I also used one of the 
water bottle mount screws to hold a small Velcro cable tie; much less 
conspicuous than the black Velcro strip provided with the pump. 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Racer Brakes

2016-04-07 Thread Michael Hechmer

Patrick,  when you do a 650b conversion you lower the rims by 19 mm.  Since 
the Racers go to 57-67, they should work on any conversion from 38 which is 
common for short reach brakes to 48.  Standard reach brakes are usually 37 
- 47.  So if the brakes you have don't work I feel sure they are Racer Ms. 
 I have those on my Ram and they are great for that bike.  If you are going 
to use 650B x 38 these brakes will work, but if you want an even wider tire 
you would need to deflate the tires to put the wheels on & off.  The brakes 
are specked for 55 mm fenders, but I have squeezed VO 60 mms under these.

I hope this helps.
Michael



On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 9:11:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Shea wrote:
>
> I put the rear Pauls Racer that I have and it was not even close. They 
> don't reach by quite a bit. Maybe  I have the mediums? 
>
> IAC, the 650b conversion involves a 1995ish Riv Road model (700c.) I need 
> more cushion and am hoping the 40mm 650b tire will spare my right wrist 
> some agony.
>
> So, I like the idea of the Pauls but I don't want to buy them and find out 
> they don't work. The Tektros are my next plan, once I can find some to 
> measure.
>
> And a big thank you for the great information in this thread!  
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
>

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