[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters

[Beardpapa]

Hey Zach. I'll take em!

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Re: [RBW] Re: BBH Closing?

[dstein]

Just a quick reminder, meetup tomorrow at 10AM at WC bart. Then ride over 
to Shell Ridge for some trail riding (for those that haven't been it is 
pretty hilly, but nothing crazy). Then down to BBH. Anyone coming but 
running late just PM me from this thread. 

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[RBW] Rosco Bubbe #3

[Joe Bernard]

It's cool in a funky way (no, I can't explain this). I dig the matte green. 

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[RBW] Rosco Bubbe #3

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Iamkeith,
I'm just a hair under 6' tall, PBH is 85.5~86. My saddle hit is 75.5. Grant's 
suggested PBH range for this one is 83 to 88. So I'm just about dead center of 
that. It's not a traditional look but that's what my custom Rivs are for :^).
- Frank

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[RBW] FS: Marathon Mondial 700x47

[Clayton.sf]

Sold. 

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[RBW] Rosco Bubbe #3

[iamkeith]

Nice, Frank.  Can i ask how tall you are, and your saddle height?  Hard part of 
jumping on these is not knowing if it'll fit and, especially, not knowing 
whether or not a future version might fit even better.  Looks to me like youre 
making this one work despite being on the tall side though.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters

[Zack]

have another pair of these, same thing. bar end silver shifters, $50 
shipped. 

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 3:24:13 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
>
> Used, great condition. No housing or cables included.
>
> $50 shipped seems fair.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe #3

[John A. Bennett]

Nice build! 

Nos. 7 & 8 just arrived in Portland a couple of hours ago.

John @ Rivelo



On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 12:25:40 PM UTC-7, frank_a wrote:
>
> I picked up my Rosco this morning and got it built up in short order. I 
> used a mix of stuff I had around. I went with 58cm Bosco bars. The saddle 
> is a B72 and the tires are an old set of Continental Top Touring 47's. 
>  I built it up as a  non-aggressive cruiser. With that said, it also has 
> the feel of a fun and spirited neighborhood bomber. The big, round profile 
> tires are perfect. And yes. it rides like a Rivendell!
>  I'm glad I took the leap.  
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/albums/72157668229592923
>
>  - Frank
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe #3

[Ryan Fleming]

I love the headbadge ! and I remember those bearclaw pedals...nice 
bike!...enjoy

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:25:40 PM UTC-5, frank_a wrote:
>
> I picked up my Rosco this morning and got it built up in short order. I 
> used a mix of stuff I had around. I went with 58cm Bosco bars. The saddle 
> is a B72 and the tires are an old set of Continental Top Touring 47's. 
>  I built it up as a  non-aggressive cruiser. With that said, it also has 
> the feel of a fun and spirited neighborhood bomber. The big, round profile 
> tires are perfect. And yes. it rides like a Rivendell!
>  I'm glad I took the leap.  
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/albums/72157668229592923
>
>  - Frank
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Rack Nut & Bolt

[David Banzer]

Need one of these: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh1-20184.htm
Maybe you bought a Nitto light holder and didn't need the nut/bolt 
assembly, or maybe you just happen to have an extra one around.
I just need one of them to experiment with mounting a P porteur rack to 
the fork crown top mounts of my Clem.
David
Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Lungimsam]

Welp...its Netherlands testing lab rated the same as my Kryptonite mini 
evolution so should be fine. The price is what makes it hard to buy.

I leave my wifes lock at her work on the bike rack, one lock at church bike 
rack, and I carry one for anywhere else, so I think I'll wait until the price 
goes down, if ever. I'd buy it for $50. Probly never happen, though.

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[RBW] Re: Line of Sight movie has atrocious cyclists. What is going on?

[BenG]

Fascinating, Mark. I interviewed a toolmaker yesterday who rode his chainstore 
bike to the interview. I dealt with those very questions. And I rode my bike to 
work this morning.

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[RBW] FS 1 Schwalbe Stelvio tire & Ritchey vintage MTN brake levers

[Bruce Smitham]

For sale is one new Schwalbe Stelvio 700 x 23C Raceguard tire $20 and 1 
bikes worth of Ritchey vintage MTN brake levers in black in very good 
condition $20

I'll include shipping on these items CONUS. Let me know if you can use 
either or both.

Pix: https://flic.kr/s/aHskEphCNe

Thx,

Bruce in San Diego

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[RBW] Re: FS Hunqa-proto-mystery-appa 62cm

[BenG]

Wish my mystery bike would swallow those big tires. Very cool.

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[RBW] Rosco Bubbe #3

[WETH]

Frank,
Nice build and glad you like the ride!  I like the green color, too.  I am 
waiting as my Rosco makes its way slowly across the US!
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Brian Campbell]

Using a portable grinding wheel makes the discussion moot. They are 
all easily defeated. Here in Philadelphia, that is the standard tool for 
serious bike thieves. Using multiple locks can slow down a thief or make 
your bike look unattractive compared to another, easier target,

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe #3

[David Banzer]

There were/are Sam/Betty forks with 300mm+ steerers. Those are definitely 
taller than what was used on the first batch of Roscoes.
David
Chicago

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:47:51 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I thought these were built around the tall Sam forks.  
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Downtube shifters! Nice!
>> I'm really liking the matte green paint. I'm curious to see what Grant 
>> comes up with for those taller Sam forks.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:25:40 PM UTC-5, frank_a wrote:
>>>
>>> I picked up my Rosco this morning and got it built up in short order. I 
>>> used a mix of stuff I had around. I went with 58cm Bosco bars. The saddle 
>>> is a B72 and the tires are an old set of Continental Top Touring 47's. 
>>>  I built it up as a  non-aggressive cruiser. With that said, it also has 
>>> the feel of a fun and spirited neighborhood bomber. The big, round profile 
>>> tires are perfect. And yes. it rides like a Rivendell!
>>>  I'm glad I took the leap.  
>>>
>>>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/albums/72157668229592923
>>>
>>>  - Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe #3

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I thought these were built around the tall Sam forks.  

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:42:09 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Downtube shifters! Nice!
> I'm really liking the matte green paint. I'm curious to see what Grant 
> comes up with for those taller Sam forks.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:25:40 PM UTC-5, frank_a wrote:
>>
>> I picked up my Rosco this morning and got it built up in short order. I 
>> used a mix of stuff I had around. I went with 58cm Bosco bars. The saddle 
>> is a B72 and the tires are an old set of Continental Top Touring 47's. 
>>  I built it up as a  non-aggressive cruiser. With that said, it also has 
>> the feel of a fun and spirited neighborhood bomber. The big, round profile 
>> tires are perfect. And yes. it rides like a Rivendell!
>>  I'm glad I took the leap.  
>>
>>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/albums/72157668229592923
>>
>>  - Frank
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe #3

[David Banzer]

Downtube shifters! Nice!
I'm really liking the matte green paint. I'm curious to see what Grant 
comes up with for those taller Sam forks.
David
Chicago

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:25:40 PM UTC-5, frank_a wrote:
>
> I picked up my Rosco this morning and got it built up in short order. I 
> used a mix of stuff I had around. I went with 58cm Bosco bars. The saddle 
> is a B72 and the tires are an old set of Continental Top Touring 47's. 
>  I built it up as a  non-aggressive cruiser. With that said, it also has 
> the feel of a fun and spirited neighborhood bomber. The big, round profile 
> tires are perfect. And yes. it rides like a Rivendell!
>  I'm glad I took the leap.  
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/albums/72157668229592923
>
>  - Frank
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[drew]

Supposedly the version cut in that video is now thicker, and not 
cuttable...they say. 
I'm not an owner, but if I had the money and lost all my perfectly fine 
u-locks, I'd probably try it out. 

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[RBW] FS: Marathon Mondial 700x47

[Conway Bennett]

I'll take em.  Any chance you want to trade for lightly used marathon supremes 
700x50s?

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[RBW] Re: Acorn Bags (acornbags.com) boxy rando bags!

[dougP]

Mine rattles when I've forgotten to lock the turnbuckle.  Otherwise they're 
silent.

dougP

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:28:09 PM UTC-7, Michael Cinibulk wrote:
>
> I agree that the turnbuckle closures on the pockets are functionally 
> great; but, they tend to rattle on chips eel and the like, which bugs me. 
> Has anyone managed to silence the rattle? 
>
> Mike C 
> Bellbrook OH

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[RBW] FS: Marathon Mondial 700x47

[Clayton.sf]

Hi all,

Have a dusty but like new pair of 

Schwalbe Marathon Mondial Evolution Touring Folding Tire 28" - Black-Reflex
Dimension: 47-622 (28 x 1.75)

for sale.

This is the fancier version. Folding bead, different compound  and beefed up 
sidewalls.

$80 shipped to CONUS

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS Hunqa-proto-mystery-appa 62cm

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Kurt! Now I just have to hop in the time machine to the point that 
N+1 for me is viable! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: FS: Orc Basic Rando Bag. $50 shipped

[David Banzer]

Bump and price drop - $45 shipped - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/orc-basic-rando-bag
David 
Chicago

On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 2:47:24 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Orc Rando Bag.
>
> This bag was for a custom rack - I'll be making a new bag for myself, so I 
> did some modifications to this Orc bag to fit a Nitto M12 or similar front 
> rack. Before the mods, it wouldn't work well on anything other than a 
> custom rack. 
> I'd call it a Swift-a-like bag, as it's made in a Swift Industries 
> fashion. Basic bag with 2 side sleeve pockets.
>
> There's info and photos here: 
> http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/orc-basic-rando-bag
>
> $50 shipped, $43 plus $7 flat shipping per order through my webstore.
> If you'd like the bag, please go through the link and checkout process on 
> my webstore.
> The $7 is a flat shipping price per order, so feel free to add other stuff 
> I have listed (buncha leather wallet prototypes, ready-made bags, and 
> Willow chainrings) and the shipping price stays the same.
>
> Contact me off-list if you have any questions. Again, if you'd like to buy 
> the bag, please go through the webstore to pay.
> Payment can be made with credit/debit card or with Paypal.
> Local pickup works. Enter code LOCAL in checkout and it takes off the 
> shipping charge.
>
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Minh]

I have one of these as well, and my biggest complaint is the way it hooks 
on the frame to carry it around, i'm always worried it will scratch the 
frame so i only use it on my beater (which does not have a basket so it 
works, but this bike does not need such a fancy lock).  locking can be a 
bit futzy with how it has to catch the cylinder.  one thing i didn't think 
about, if you don't want to carry this on your top-tube, there aren't many 
other options to carry it--try putting this in your basket!

all the videos and don't scare me off as i think any lock can be defeated, 
if a thief can use an angle grinder to cut a chain in public view you'll 
never beat them.  maybe this one is worst because you only need a giant 
cable cutter so it's less noisy.  what turns me off about this lock is the 
price compared to other options which i feel are about the same in terms of 
security.  

i think what you're paying for here is the form factor more than anything 
else, i'm not sure i'd buy another one--the only reason i have one is that 
i got my heavily discounted.


On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 10:27:01 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Yikes! To be fair those are some huge bolt cutters.
>
> Seems like a cool product, but I do like the Abus mini lock 
> 
>  
> I have. I also use in conjunction with the Abus cable lock 
> ,
>  
> if my bike is going to be locked up for a while.
>
> The Abus mini lock is a two bolt system, so even if you cut one part, the 
> other arm is still locked in place, unlike the Kryptonite U-locks. I feel 
> like with this TiGr lock, there's only the cylinder holding everything 
> together.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Philip Kim]

Yikes! To be fair those are some huge bolt cutters.

Seems like a cool product, but I do like the Abus mini lock 

 
I have. I also use in conjunction with the Abus cable lock 
,
 
if my bike is going to be locked up for a while.

The Abus mini lock is a two bolt system, so even if you cut one part, the 
other arm is still locked in place, unlike the Kryptonite U-locks. I feel 
like with this TiGr lock, there's only the cylinder holding everything 
together.

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 7:30:29 AM UTC-4, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> I haven't used it, but got excited about the possibility of a 
> light-weight, high-security lock after seeing your link. But looking for 
> reviews I came across this german video:
>
> http://www.bikehugger.com/m/view/tigr-lock-break-and-update
>
> Which considerably dampened my enthusiasm.  The company claims the wider 
> model is less vulnerable than the one broken in the video, but still...
>
> Sky in new west
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Line of Sight movie has atrocious cyclists. What is going on?

[s...@austin.utexas.edu]

I agree that the "messenger wannabe" phenomenon is a problem. 
Unfortunately, those hipsters who are attracted to "messenger style" simply 
affect it without any pragmatic reason to do so and usually without the 
bike-handling skills required. But they'll most likely move on to the next 
cool thing after awhile, if we're lucky, some will stick and become real, 
lifelong cyclists (abandoning the reckless bravado along the way). If we 
can return to the original post regarding the "Line of Sight" film, these 
messengers (Alfred Bobe Jr., Austin Horse, and Christian Thormann) are 
actually not only working bicycle messengers, but are also sponsored by 
major companies (Red Bull, Masi, etc.). These guys possess incredible 
bike-handling skills, speed, endurance, and are actually top-notch 
athletes. Watching this high-octane footage is no different that watching 
skaters performing the most insane tricks in dangerous situations or 
watching Danny MacAskill perform some of his incredible, death-defying 
stunts. Pedestrians are hit and killed by cars WAY more than anyone is 
injured by a reckless messenger (or messenger wannabe). Car traffic in 
congested cities like NYC, Boston, Philly hate reckless pedestrians as well 
as cyclists. Cyclists hate reckless drivers and pedestrians. Pedestrians 
hate reckless drivers and cyclists. However reckless they all are, it is 
highly unlikely that cyclists and pedestrians will kill. It is all too 
likely that reckless drivers will. I have seen taxi cabs performing as many 
feats of recklessness as bicycle messengers.
 

>
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Re: [RBW] Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Lungimsam]

I wonder if the rivets can be easily drilled out to remove the lock. I have an 
email in to customer support.

I use a couple different Kryptonite locks and a frame lock as a ulock in a 
pinch. Usually fits aroubd stop sign type pole and I can catch a stay with it.

Locking my wifes bike with mine in public places with my super long Ulock can 
be like solving a jigsaw puzzle sometimes. But works.

I am thinking that Abus mini 40 with the double whatever it is called would be 
good as crooks have to cut both sides to get it open.

$100 is steep for the tigr. Also concerned that the trim look might invite 
theft attemps.

Not sure which lock to get next.

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[RBW] Re: Some things change, some stay the same

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Congrats, Tony -- she's a cutie!

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[RBW] Re: Acorn Bags (acornbags.com) boxy rando bags!

[Ron Mc]

I would have bought the gray years ago if Ron had offered it, and would 
have kept a couple of other gray bags incl. Sackvilles I ended up selling

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 7:54:03 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Keeping pockets full should reduce rattling. 
> It's nice to see some new colors from Acorn, and that they're offering WR 
> canvas in addition to a waxed canvas choice. 
> David
> Chicago 

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[RBW] Re: Acorn Bags (acornbags.com) boxy rando bags!

[David Banzer]

Keeping pockets full should reduce rattling. 
It's nice to see some new colors from Acorn, and that they're offering WR 
canvas in addition to a waxed canvas choice. 
David
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[RBW] Re: Line of Sight movie has atrocious cyclists. What is going on?

[Ron Mc]

people are going to react to speedy cyclists in gridlock traffic they same 
way they will react to the guy who blasts down the highway shoulder on a 
gridlocked freeway - seen many motorcycles take the lane marker in gridlock 
traffic

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 6:50:13 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:
>
> Seems like I experience the drivers who were just short of not 
> acknowledging cyclists as legitimate users of the roads but were pushed all 
> the way by a lone experience with some fool trying to ride like a 
> messenger. These are encounters that are not "strong bike moves" since we 
> don't have NYC traffic volume or gridlock that would make such aggressive 
> cycling cause drivers to feel subjugated in the street food chain, it only 
> makes them mad.
>
> Most of the messenger wannabes I've run across here aren't very good 
> cyclists, they have a bike, their intentions and enough energy to make a 
> dumb public display of themselves, ignorant of the long lasting wake of 
> their Kevin Bacon moments. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
>  Pittsburgh (NOT Manhattan)
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:45:13 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> "...simply because he was offended by my presence."
>>
>>
>> This. Many people do not consider us valid road users. Whether that's 
>> passive aggression like not giving us space, or active harassment, it stems 
>> from the idea that we're not "real," and don't have a right to be there. 
>> If you need a path to empathize with how many black people in America 
>> feel today, you might start with how you feel you're treated while riding 
>> your bike on public roads. 
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>   
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:57:52 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, badly behaving bicyclists are a tiny minority of what is a 
>>> teeny tiny miniscule minority in the first place. The truth is that bad 
>>> cycling etiquette is mainly that--bad etiquette, or at worst generally 
>>> mostly a danger to the cyclist. Whereas the radical monopoly that is our 
>>> transportation system breeds people that believe only motorized vehicles 
>>> belong on the roadways.Yesterday morning while on my way to work a van ran 
>>> me into the curb, on purpose, simply because he was offended by my 
>>> presence--the car in front of him was turning right, waited for me because 
>>> he thought I might go straight. I waved the car on and made my turn. 
>>> Apparently all too much for the van driver, who, as he was passing me after 
>>> the turn, veered his van into the shoulder directly in front of me, at 
>>> speed, just missing my front end. When I caught up with him two lights 
>>> later, his response was "Get on the f- sidewalk. You look like a f-ing 
>>> retard." Etc. So maybe he had just encountered a NYC messenger the other 
>>> day? I suppose that's a theory.
>>>
>>> Honestly, people can point to the bad behavior of some cyclists as the 
>>> reason for this or that, or why they ran me into the curb. And I certainly 
>>> believe it is important to maintain a civil and considerate approach to 
>>> riding my bicycle. My thoughts here are not meant to excuse cyclists who 
>>> ride like jackasses on public roads; I have little patience for it these 
>>> days. But do not kid yourself that bad cycling is why there is no 
>>> infrastructure money coming our way.
>>>
>>> It hardly needs to be said that we are all in on cars. Unfortunately, 
>>> the massive infrastructure this requires is getting to be too much now that 
>>> we are hitting diminishing returns in everything from extraction to 
>>> technology to our house of cards financial system. It is simply more than 
>>> we can afford at this point. Trying to retrofit this infrastructure to make 
>>> it "safe" for bicycles, a technology that, despite some headway, mostly in 
>>> compact city environments, we have decided is backward and not viable, and 
>>> an affront to progress, will never happen on a large scale. Many other 
>>> things are likely to happen meantime that will make it a moot point.
>>>
>>> The total centrality of cars in our lives, and our unshakeable belief in 
>>> the myths of eternal growth and eternal progress, blinds us to the ways the 
>>> radical monopoly transportation system corrupts everything, including time, 
>>> space, civility, resource allotment, and even the simple realization that 
>>> there are much more vulnerable road users out there.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:08:14 AM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:

 And yet, a small minority of extremists can have a disproportionate 
 influence on the broader collective - negatively or positively.

 Bad cycling etiquette is an ongoing barrier in securing better 
 infrastructure for all cyclists, influencing public perception of 
 cyclists, 
 and enhancing civic safety in a broad sense. A blasé attitude about it 
 only enables the problem.

 Maybe not everyone cares about those things, which 

[RBW] Re: Acorn Bags (acornbags.com) boxy rando bags!

[Ron Mc]

I've never heard a rattle, and I'm pretty sure the required position of my 
shifter cables keeps the joint tensioned, which prevents vibration.  



Have you noticed a difference if you stuff the pockets full?  


On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 9:28:09 PM UTC-5, Michael Cinibulk wrote:
>
> I agree that the turnbuckle closures on the pockets are functionally 
> great; but, they tend to rattle on chips eel and the like, which bugs me. 
> Has anyone managed to silence the rattle? 
>
> Mike C 
> Bellbrook OH

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Re: [RBW] Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Jeff Lesperance]

I bought a TiGr mini a couple months ago and it's a nice, lighter
alternative to the Abus steel-o-flex (
https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Steel-O-Flex)
that I otherwise carry around. It's a bit more fiddly to lock up compared
to a mini u-lock or standard u-lock on some bike racks due to its odd shape
and locking mech - sometimes it takes me a couple tries to get my bike in a
position where everything lines up just so and I don't suspect this would
happen even with a mini-u - If you regularly park on crowded bike racks,
I'd say this could be an annoyance.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Crazy lightweight and supposedly uncutable (the newer thicker version
> here) https://tigrlock.com/mini/
>
> Looks good but I wonder if it is easy to just drill out the rivets.
> A Betty owner liked it per their review on the TiGr website.
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[RBW] Re: Line of Sight movie has atrocious cyclists. What is going on?

[ascpgh]

Seems like I experience the drivers who were just short of not 
acknowledging cyclists as legitimate users of the roads but were pushed all 
the way by a lone experience with some fool trying to ride like a 
messenger. These are encounters that are not "strong bike moves" since we 
don't have NYC traffic volume or gridlock that would make such aggressive 
cycling cause drivers to feel subjugated in the street food chain, it only 
makes them mad.

Most of the messenger wannabes I've run across here aren't very good 
cyclists, they have a bike, their intentions and enough energy to make a 
dumb public display of themselves, ignorant of the long lasting wake of 
their Kevin Bacon moments. 

Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh (NOT Manhattan)

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:45:13 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> "...simply because he was offended by my presence."
>
>
> This. Many people do not consider us valid road users. Whether that's 
> passive aggression like not giving us space, or active harassment, it stems 
> from the idea that we're not "real," and don't have a right to be there. 
> If you need a path to empathize with how many black people in America feel 
> today, you might start with how you feel you're treated while riding your 
> bike on public roads. 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>   
>
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:57:52 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Actually, badly behaving bicyclists are a tiny minority of what is a 
>> teeny tiny miniscule minority in the first place. The truth is that bad 
>> cycling etiquette is mainly that--bad etiquette, or at worst generally 
>> mostly a danger to the cyclist. Whereas the radical monopoly that is our 
>> transportation system breeds people that believe only motorized vehicles 
>> belong on the roadways.Yesterday morning while on my way to work a van ran 
>> me into the curb, on purpose, simply because he was offended by my 
>> presence--the car in front of him was turning right, waited for me because 
>> he thought I might go straight. I waved the car on and made my turn. 
>> Apparently all too much for the van driver, who, as he was passing me after 
>> the turn, veered his van into the shoulder directly in front of me, at 
>> speed, just missing my front end. When I caught up with him two lights 
>> later, his response was "Get on the f- sidewalk. You look like a f-ing 
>> retard." Etc. So maybe he had just encountered a NYC messenger the other 
>> day? I suppose that's a theory.
>>
>> Honestly, people can point to the bad behavior of some cyclists as the 
>> reason for this or that, or why they ran me into the curb. And I certainly 
>> believe it is important to maintain a civil and considerate approach to 
>> riding my bicycle. My thoughts here are not meant to excuse cyclists who 
>> ride like jackasses on public roads; I have little patience for it these 
>> days. But do not kid yourself that bad cycling is why there is no 
>> infrastructure money coming our way.
>>
>> It hardly needs to be said that we are all in on cars. Unfortunately, the 
>> massive infrastructure this requires is getting to be too much now that we 
>> are hitting diminishing returns in everything from extraction to technology 
>> to our house of cards financial system. It is simply more than we can 
>> afford at this point. Trying to retrofit this infrastructure to make it 
>> "safe" for bicycles, a technology that, despite some headway, mostly in 
>> compact city environments, we have decided is backward and not viable, and 
>> an affront to progress, will never happen on a large scale. Many other 
>> things are likely to happen meantime that will make it a moot point.
>>
>> The total centrality of cars in our lives, and our unshakeable belief in 
>> the myths of eternal growth and eternal progress, blinds us to the ways the 
>> radical monopoly transportation system corrupts everything, including time, 
>> space, civility, resource allotment, and even the simple realization that 
>> there are much more vulnerable road users out there.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:08:14 AM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>>>
>>> And yet, a small minority of extremists can have a disproportionate 
>>> influence on the broader collective - negatively or positively.
>>>
>>> Bad cycling etiquette is an ongoing barrier in securing better 
>>> infrastructure for all cyclists, influencing public perception of cyclists, 
>>> and enhancing civic safety in a broad sense. A blasé attitude about it 
>>> only enables the problem.
>>>
>>> Maybe not everyone cares about those things, which is a shame. Maybe 
>>> messengers and other arsehat showboaters prefer riding in dense, dangerous 
>>> conditions for a cheap thrill. I've been hit before - that's plenty for me, 
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 9:09:20 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:

  
   That a movie, group or individual represents or could even remotely 
 represent the infinitely diverse 

[RBW] Re: Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Sky Coulter]

I haven't used it, but got excited about the possibility of a light-weight, 
high-security lock after seeing your link. But looking for reviews I came 
across this german video:

http://www.bikehugger.com/m/view/tigr-lock-break-and-update

Which considerably dampened my enthusiasm.  The company claims the wider model 
is less vulnerable than the one broken in the video, but still...

Sky in new west

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Size 52 Grey

[RDS]

Sold.

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 8:23:00 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> I have for sale a size 52 Clem Smith Jr Grey frame or semi-complete bike 
> *(minus 
> the handlebars;  replaced the stock tires)*.  I have already sold the 
> stock handlebars that come with the complete bike, so no handlebars are 
> included.  I have replaced the stock tires with Schwalbe Big Ben Raceguard 
> Performance line 48mm wide tires ($45 each at Riv).  Bike has been ridden 
> less than 15 all pavement miles.  So, I will consider any offers from the 
> frame only (frame/fork/headset/BB) to the whole bike (minus the handlebars 
> with the new replacement tires).
>
>
> *NOTE:  When I received the bike from Riv, the top tube had a dent (see 
> pics) that was created during the shipping process.  The top tube has a 
> dent from the handlebars from the shipping process and Riv said that there 
> are not any structural issues to worry about.  I decided the keep the bike 
> at that time after speaking with Riv about the dent.  Pics of 
> dent:  https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6Wb8pkSIAX6cUlmM2hDaWxxb00 
> *
>
>
> I will take $650 for the frame/fork/BB/headset.  The bike will ship from 
> Georgia and I will split the shipping cost with the buyer.
> I will take $1,200 for the full bike *(handlebars/stem not included)* and 
> I will pay the shipping cost.
> I will ship to the Continental USA only.  Bike is located in Georgia.
>
>
> * Again, the handlebars (the original bars had the built in stem) are 
> not included and the original tires were replaced with Schwalbe Big Ben, 
> RaceGuard Performance line, wire - 650B x 48 (50-584, 27.5x2) which cost 
> $45 at Riv.*
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro R559 Silver Recessed (New in Box); Ergon GP5 Handlebar Grips

[RDS]

Clem sold.

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 8:54:39 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> For sale is:
>
> Tektro R559 Silver Recessed Brakes;  New in box.  Make offer.  Ships from 
> GA.
>
> Ergon GP5 Grips.  I think I used them for 2 rides on paved paths.  Make 
> offer.  Ships from GA.
>
> Ship to continental USA only.  Paypal.  Probably ship via USPS.
>
>
> I still have a 52 Grey Clem for sale that I've had listed on here earlier 
> in the year.  Cosmetic dent in the top tube from handlebars during 
> shipping.  Only ridden less than 10 miles.  Paint chips at brazeons for 
> rear rack.  Have changed out bars, stem, tires.  Will listen to offers. 
>  Ships from GA.  Current bars are VO tourist I think.  I have the original 
> grips (not installed yet)
>
> To view dent:  
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6Wb8pkSIAX6SG1wbnJTdzhOYVE
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6Wb8pkSIAX6ZDhWM2ZPdWo3RFE
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using this Ti lock? How you like it?

[Jeremy Tavan]

I bought one of the Mini TiGr locks for my titanium go-fast bike, and 
overall I'm quite happy with it. Sometimes it can be a little difficult to 
get it over my Clem's fat tires and a thick bike rack, but for most 
applications I've enjoyed it. The titanium loop is very light, though the 
steel lock cylinder is pretty hefty. It operates smoothly, and the 
mechanism is quite clever. I can't provide a guess as to "how secure" it 
is, as I don't park my bikes in high-risk areas and I've never seen any 
evidence of someone trying to defeat the lock. I may buy a second Mini TiGr 
for my fancy schmancy town bike. If they'd sell me one with a matching 
cylinder to my other one so I could share keys, that would be extra nice.

Cheers,
/Jeremy

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 7:19:18 AM UTC+2, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Crazy lightweight and supposedly uncutable (the newer thicker version 
> here) https://tigrlock.com/mini/ 
> 
>
> Looks good but I wonder if it is easy to just drill out the rivets.
> A Betty owner liked it per their review on the TiGr website.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Sackville GrabSack - Olive - $40

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I had a volunteer show up yesterday at work, 16-year-old kid. His jeans had 
the kind of hole you get at the knee in an old pair, with the strings of 
white going across. But the entire length of the legs had these wear spots, 
right up and down! Bought 'em like that. Gosh knows how much his mom paid 
for them. This relates in some convoluted manner to Grant's current Weighty 
post, I'm pretty sure. Or maybe not. Anyway, this bag should sell for at 
least $250  in a boutique, so--screamin' deal, Manny! Nice ad copy, too. 
And hand-repaired by the designer! Too bad it's not my size, plus I already 
have one, or I would be all over it (as we say)!

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:19:39 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Nearly new...
> Well loved...
> Pre-broken in...
> Rustic feeling...
> Craftily artisan beasuage...
> meh.
> Used Rivendell Sackville GrabSack
>
> At some point I pull the shoulder strap out. Go figure you aren't allow 
> use it as paracord for a hammock.
>
> Bag works fine. Got repaired by Grant via speedy stitcher.. So you know 
> the repair will last another 10 years. 
>
> Comes with extra dowel for those overstuffing needs. 
>
> $40 bucks
>
> Pictures proved that I need help to me feed my new bag desires:
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskEbGj65
>
>
> Manny " This is why I need new things" Acosta
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Line of Sight movie has atrocious cyclists. What is going on?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And I would just add that the technology of the bicycle, with its more 
human scale, is much more conducive to human dignity than the automobile.

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 4:11:18 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> For me this is simple. The issue is human dignity: upholding the inherent 
> and boundless value and irreplaceable uniqueness of any and every human 
> being. We are called to uphold our own, as well as that of everyone else. 
>
> Do I ride in a way to upholds my own human dignity? That of those I meet 
> along the way?
> Does a messenger biker zipping and dashing in ways that endanger 
> themselves and others uphold their and other's human dignity?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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