[RBW] Re: PSA: b17 select sale at bike-discount.de

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
Looks like a lot of Brooks are on sale - whats shipping cost to the states?

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[RBW] Re: PSA: b17 select sale at bike-discount.de

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
Looks like lots of Brooks on sale, shipping is ~20euro to the states, still 
decent deals

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[RBW] Re: PSA: b17 select sale at bike-discount.de

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
FYI, I've found ChainReaction to be cheaper for a lot of items-  depending 
on what Brooks you're looking for, they are cheaper still, free shipping 
over $99usd http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/saddles?f=4294965973

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Saddles, Pauls, SRAM, etc

2016-10-14 Thread Philip Kim
thanks to everyone who reached out. I'll ship everything out early next 
week. update on what's left.

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 9:50:48 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> update
>
> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 8:24:16 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Cross post from I-Bob
>>  
>>
>>> I've sold a few more projects I've accumulated over the past few years, 
>>> because I'm content with my stable as it is. So here are the left overs...
>>>
>>> (SOLD) Brooks Swift Chrome Rails, slightly used still good - $75 shipped
>>>
>>> (SOLD) Brooks Swift Titanium Rails, new, older version without saddle 
>>> loops - $120 shipped
>>>
>>> Paul Levers  (long 
>>> pull levers. works for MTB disc brakes, or v-brakes) 2.5 version, WILL NOT 
>>> WORK WITH CANTIS - $60 shipped
>>>
>>> (SOLD) Paul Touring Cantis 
>>> ,
>>>  
>>> pair, silver anondized, new installed but never used - $125 shipped
>>>
>>> (SOLD) Brooks Ergon Grips, brown leather, almost new - $55 shipped
>>>
>>> SRAM PG-850 new - $15 shipped
>>>
>>> SRAM 8 speed chain - $12 shipped
>>>
>>> (SOLD) Microshift long cage derailleur 
>>> ,
>>>  
>>> new - $30 shipped
>>>
>>> (SOLD) Rivendell Sackville Fender Flaps, pair, tan, new - $20 shipped
>>>
>>>
>>> Please message me off list, thanks!
>>>
>>> -Phil in DC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] eBay Rambouillet

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAMBOUILLET-Steel-Touring-Commuter-18-Speed-Bike-Shimano-105-Brooks-Mavic/331996274514?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39856%26meid%3D01eddf63c7ec4e7ebfb3cc224bc8108d%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172369221158

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Congratulations John for making your adventure happen!  I have been in the 
Chiricahuas just once fighting the Horseshoe2 wildfire in 2011. They are 
special mountains.

I like your thought that you packed for your fears instead of your 
confidence. Your bike bags look small enough, it doesn't appear you 
overpacked to me. I see you took a cookstove. What items, beyond the 
normal items like sleeping bag & tent, worked for you and what would you 
leave behind next time?

Thanks for sharing,
Joe "who should be on an adventure of his own in the first month of 
retirement but is reading about others' adventures instead" Ramey in GJT

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 12:01:02 AM UTC-6, John M wrote:

>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and 
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of 
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right 
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good 
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I 
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it 
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting 
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time 
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my 
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed 
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua 
> mountains just over the border in Arizona. 
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and 
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few 
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the 
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce 
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through 
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks) 
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4 
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide 
> desert on BLM land.  
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos 
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among 
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate 
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other 
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent 
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of 
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.  
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had 
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they 
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty 
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the 
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the 
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand 
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or 
> having a good time. 
>
>
>  
>
> john
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Kudos, John. You've done something I've wanted to do and which I've
dithered about for years and you set a good example.

I was talking to a wizened old guy at Stevie's yesterday (Wait a minute!
He's my age!) who after establishing himself with his clientelel is able to
put his remodeling business on hold for weeks at a time ride off from his
Corrales doorstep into the NM and CO wilderness loaded with up to 60 lb on
his custom 29er touring machine (Co-motion? Nice bike, if very stout.) He's
told me some wonderful stories -- camping on a small butte in a narrow
valley surrounded by mesas, and while preparing his morning coffee seeing a
sliver of moon peek over a distant mesa, with the sun coming up behind it.

We've got some good gravel and dirt riding in the Jemez mountains starting
about 50 miles from my door; the only problem is that these 50 miles are
along a 80 mph 4 lane and then up a very narrow and winding 2 lane until
you get to the turnoff, where the network of old logging roads begin.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:08 PM, John M  wrote:

>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua
> mountains just over the border in Arizona.
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks)
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide
> desert on BLM land.
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or
> having a good time.
>
>
>
>
> john
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread John M
Patrick-- the RailRunner is your friend.  Roll your bike onto the train, 
get off at the Santo Domingo stop and the Jemez is a short spin away. 
 Years ago I lived near Madrid and rode over into the Jemez from the 
southeast corner through the Dixon Apple Orchard.  Good riding there.

Mojo-- you'd be interested to see the post-fire condition of the mountains. 
 The drainages took a serious beating during the monsoon floods, but seem 
to be recovering nicely.  Rustler Park looks good-- though it is now a high 
altitude grassland instead of forest.To answer your question about 
gear-- I have been backpacking for probably 20 years, so my outdoor kit is 
pretty refined and basic.  Stove, fuel, one pot for boiling and eating out 
of, water purification tablets instead of a filter and a multitool-- that's 
about the extent of the camping gear (plus tent, bag, pad).  But, my 
confidence about mechanical failures and improvised bicycle repair is less 
squared away.  I probably took too many spare bits and tools anticipating 
the break-downs that never came.  I could have gotten by with one spare 
tube instead of two.  What I left behind and should have brought was chain 
lube-- after about 200 miles of dust my chain was pretty vocal. 



On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 12:01:02 AM UTC-6, John M wrote:
>
>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and 
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of 
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right 
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good 
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I 
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it 
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting 
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time 
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my 
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed 
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua 
> mountains just over the border in Arizona. 
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and 
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few 
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the 
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce 
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through 
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks) 
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4 
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide 
> desert on BLM land.  
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos 
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among 
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate 
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other 
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent 
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of 
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.  
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had 
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they 
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty 
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the 
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the 
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand 
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or 
> having a good time. 
>
>
>  
>
> john
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
That's because the Hunq is much oversized. Check the geometry chart - the 
ett on the 51 is ~57.5

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:01:08 AM UTC-4, Max Bergen wrote:
>
> FWIW, I've been working with Roman to place an order for a Hunq. 
>
> My PBH is 83.25 and he suggests either the 51cm for 2015 model or 50cm for 
> 2016 model. 
>
> Both those are smaller than any bike I've ridden in the past, but I trust 
> their product knowledge and experience  :) 
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 11:43:54 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> In the last half a year, I've gotten a lot more serious about riding, 
>> been through a lot of bikes, and just finally seem to be getting down to a 
>> fit I am liking, and once again thinking about stem lengths and top tubes 
>> and etc.
>>
>> In my current garage I have:
>>
>> Soma San Marcos, 51cm
>> Rivendell Sam Hillborne, 55cm
>> All-City Macho King, 52cm
>> Cheviot (yet-to-be-finished-and-ridden), 50cm
>>
>> The Cheviot may be shared between myself and my partner. She's 5'2. I am 
>> 5'7. At worst I will have more seatpost showing/bars a bit higher.
>>
>>
>> The Rivendell has an effective top tube (ett) of 570mm. I have a very 
>> long stem on it with Albatross bars - I had a Hillborne before, with drop 
>> bars, and it felt too big with drops for me, but with the upright bars, all 
>> is fine. Fistful of seatpost showing.
>>
>> My San Marcos feels real good too, not many miles yet, but fits like what 
>> I've been riding... ett of 550mm, bars at saddle height, stem seems to be a 
>> 90mm or something like that, 44cm drop bars.. perhaps Philip knows what 
>> length he sold it with..
>>
>> My All City is my 'go-fast' bike, 853 steel frame with a carbon fork, 
>> bars are lower than seat, and that's how I want this bike set. The 52cm 
>> frame size actually measures ett 550, a bit more aggressive than the other 
>> bike but not much. 90mm stem with 10* rise.
>>
>>
>> PBH: 83.x. SH: ~ 71.4
>>
>> Riv sizing talks about me riding 55-57cm depending on the frame, but I 
>> always worry that the top tube is too long. Anywho, I was under the 
>> impression that for a 'fast' bike you want a slightly longer stem, for more 
>> weight in the front..but also with bars at seat height I suppose I can ride 
>> a bigger frame with a shorter stem - how short is too short, with drop bars 
>> - anything can work with some pullback.
>>
>>
>> Any others my size/pbh/sh that can comment?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks -- some 550 and 4, but much much less.

Do you know: would one have to get advance permission to ride across tribal
land?

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:25 AM, John M  wrote:

> Patrick-- the RailRunner is your friend.  Roll your bike onto the train,
> get off at the Santo Domingo stop and the Jemez is a short spin away.
> Years ago I lived near Madrid and rode over into the Jemez from the
> southeast corner through the Dixon Apple Orchard.  Good riding there.
>
> Mojo-- you'd be interested to see the post-fire condition of the
> mountains.  The drainages took a serious beating during the monsoon floods,
> but seem to be recovering nicely.  Rustler Park looks good-- though it is
> now a high altitude grassland instead of forest.To answer your question
> about gear-- I have been backpacking for probably 20 years, so my outdoor
> kit is pretty refined and basic.  Stove, fuel, one pot for boiling and
> eating out of, water purification tablets instead of a filter and a
> multitool-- that's about the extent of the camping gear (plus tent, bag,
> pad).  But, my confidence about mechanical failures and improvised bicycle
> repair is less squared away.  I probably took too many spare bits and tools
> anticipating the break-downs that never came.  I could have gotten by with
> one spare tube instead of two.  What I left behind and should have brought
> was chain lube-- after about 200 miles of dust my chain was pretty vocal.
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 12:01:02 AM UTC-6, John M wrote:
>
>>
>> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads
>> and hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of
>> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right
>> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good
>> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I
>> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it
>> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting
>> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time
>> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my
>> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed
>> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua
>> mountains just over the border in Arizona.
>>
>>
>> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and
>> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few
>> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the
>> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce
>> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through
>> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks)
>> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4
>> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide
>> desert on BLM land.
>>
>>
>> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos
>> 
>>
>>
>> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>>
>>
>> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among
>> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate
>> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other
>> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent
>> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of
>> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.
>>
>> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had
>> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they
>> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty
>> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the
>> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the
>> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand
>> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or
>> having a good time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> john
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] eBay Rambouillet

2016-10-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Damned good price!

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Belopsky  wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAMBOUILLET-Steel-Touring-Commuter-18-Speed-Bike-
> Shimano-105-Brooks-Mavic/331996274514?_trksid=p2047675.
> c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%
> 26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39856%26meid%3D01eddf63c7ec4e7ebfb3cc224bc8
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*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

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Re: [RBW] eBay Rambouillet

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
6 days left still, i'm sure it'll reach $1k, and posting it here probably 
ruined someone's hopes for a low price :) lol

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[RBW] Re: Interrupter levers on Bosco bars

2016-10-14 Thread Marc Irwin
I've been using the Bosco's since they were introduced and use that 
position on the flats everytime I ride.  It's good against the wind and for 
more nimble high speed descents and maneuvers. 

Marc

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 4:49:36 PM UTC-4, Palmer wrote:
>
> Garth,
> That is kind of what I am asking. I haven't put the bars on yet. I like 
> sitting up but want the option of getting more forward and lower. 
> Thanks,
> Tom

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread John M
If you remain on federal, state or county roads-- then no.  Tribal roads? 
 Not sure.  I've gone into the Jemez through Cochiti Pueblo owned lands on 
state and county roads and never had an issue.  



On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 12:01:02 AM UTC-6, John M wrote:
>
>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and 
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of 
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right 
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good 
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I 
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it 
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting 
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time 
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my 
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed 
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua 
> mountains just over the border in Arizona. 
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and 
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few 
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the 
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce 
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through 
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks) 
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4 
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide 
> desert on BLM land.  
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos 
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among 
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate 
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other 
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent 
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of 
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.  
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had 
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they 
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty 
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the 
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the 
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand 
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or 
> having a good time. 
>
>
>  
>
> john
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread Kellie
John, I love your write-up, and I can especially relate to this, "*didn’t 
have the right bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, 
not in good enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on." *Though 
not into the wilds, but alone, I'm hoping to ride the C&O in spring, 
self-supported. Thanks for the photos.

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:01:02 PM UTC-7, John M wrote:
>
>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and 
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of 
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right 
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good 
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I 
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it 
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting 
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time 
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my 
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed 
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua 
> mountains just over the border in Arizona. 
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and 
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few 
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the 
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce 
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through 
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks) 
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4 
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide 
> desert on BLM land.  
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos 
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among 
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate 
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other 
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent 
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of 
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.  
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had 
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they 
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty 
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the 
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the 
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand 
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or 
> having a good time. 
>
>
>  
>
> john
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Machined vs non-machined rims

2016-10-14 Thread Lungimsam
Bump. Anymore feedback? Trying to decide between my spare Synergy set or GB 
set. Neither were great in rain. Wonder if A23 better (machined). 650b. Long 
reach sidepulls.

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread Dennis Hogan
Great job John! The pics are wonderful - I've visited the Silver City area 
and think there may have been some serious climbing but also serious 
scenery. 
Dennis in PDX

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:01:02 PM UTC-7, John M wrote:
>
>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and 
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of 
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right 
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good 
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I 
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it 
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting 
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time 
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my 
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed 
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua 
> mountains just over the border in Arizona. 
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and 
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few 
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the 
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce 
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through 
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks) 
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4 
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide 
> desert on BLM land.  
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos 
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among 
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate 
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other 
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent 
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of 
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.  
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had 
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they 
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty 
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the 
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the 
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand 
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or 
> having a good time. 
>
>
>  
>
> john
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Machined vs non-machined rims

2016-10-14 Thread Eric Karnes
I had a set of 650b A23s set up with Riv Silver Brakes. They were nice, but 
honestly not significantly better than my (non-machined) C-18s in terms of 
braking. Unless you think the braking performance is bordering on 
dangerous, I would just go with the Synergys you already have and see if 
you can improve things a bit with brake setup/pads/etc.

Eric

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:20:32 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Bump. Anymore feedback? Trying to decide between my spare Synergy set or 
> GB set. Neither were great in rain. Wonder if A23 better (machined). 650b. 
> Long reach sidepulls.

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[RBW] Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters.  One 
big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be going 
away.  So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now.  The Silver 2 looks 
like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon shifter, 
and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter.  Most importantly (to me), is 
that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep putting their 
money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a pair or two of 
Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory.  When the need 
arises, get them from your stock.  If Riv gets a lot of early adopters 
buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to make the 
next part that you can't get anywhere else.  Grant tells you on the BLUG 
how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.  

Bill habitual-early-adopter Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Machined vs non-machined rims

2016-10-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Eric is right.  Use your Synergies, make the best of it, and enjoy 
yourself.  Machined sidewall rims are a little better in the rain, in my 
experience.  That said, rim brakes always perform worse in the rain.  If 
you go a long time between uses, and grab the brakes when you need to stop, 
like NOW, the feeling is almost that the brakes make you speed up.  Brake 
early.  If you are in a scenario where you can anticipate needing to use 
the brakes (like on a descent or in town or in a group), consider the 
technique of frequently using your brakes very lightly to squeegee some of 
the water off.  When it is raining, also congratulate yourself by 
meditating on Rule #9.  


Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 10:35:23 AM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I had a set of 650b A23s set up with Riv Silver Brakes. They were nice, 
> but honestly not significantly better than my (non-machined) C-18s in terms 
> of braking. Unless you think the braking performance is bordering on 
> dangerous, I would just go with the Synergys you already have and see if 
> you can improve things a bit with brake setup/pads/etc.
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:20:32 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Bump. Anymore feedback? Trying to decide between my spare Synergy set or 
>> GB set. Neither were great in rain. Wonder if A23 better (machined). 650b. 
>> Long reach sidepulls.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Machined vs non-machined rims

2016-10-14 Thread Lungimsam
 The attraction of the GB rims is that they auto seat compass tires. No 
massaging necessary. I could get the machined A23 set But then I would have to 
pay for a whole new wheelset 500 bucks. Maybe I'll just switch from the 
yokozuna pads to cool stops and Swiss stops and see what happens with all my 
existing rims.

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Re: [RBW] eBay Rambouillet

2016-10-14 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Yeah I was just going to mention that too - the price is yet to be 
determined.  

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 10:46:43 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> 6 days left still, i'm sure it'll reach $1k, and posting it here probably 
> ruined someone's hopes for a low price :) lol
>

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[RBW] Re: 50cm Cheviot build

2016-10-14 Thread Belopsky
now with fenders



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[RBW] Re: Machined vs non-machined rims

2016-10-14 Thread Philip Kim
Switchback hills on Synergy rims seated just fine for me (much better than 
hetres). They measure about 42mm stretched for about a month or two. I can 
take a digital caliper measurement at whichever pressure you'd like.

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:54:46 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> The attraction of the GB rims is that they auto seat compass tires. No 
> massaging necessary. I could get the machined A23 set But then I would have 
> to pay for a whole new wheelset 500 bucks. Maybe I'll just switch from the 
> yokozuna pads to cool stops and Swiss stops and see what happens with all 
> my existing rims.

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report-- Mini tour of SW New Mexico and SE Arizona

2016-10-14 Thread dougP
John:

Thanks for the report & photos.  It's great that you took the time to 
document your trip.  I was puzzled by the sign prohibiting recording 
devices.  Cameras? Videos? Sound recording?  Having the backpacking 
experience sounds like an excellent background for being in such wild 
country.  The notion of "packing for my fears..." is interesting but given 
the amount of stuff on your bike it doesn't look like you are too fearful. 
I refer to "defensive packing" when someone tries to cover every 
contingency & ends up with 80 lbs of stuff lashed to their bike.  

dougP

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:01:02 PM UTC-7, John M wrote:
>
>
> For years I have wanted to make a bike tour out of the quiet backroads and 
> hidden corners of SW New Mexico where I live.  But a whole litany of 
> excuses, both real and imagined conspired against it—didn’t have the right 
> bike, too hot, too windy, too little water, not enough time, not in good 
> enough shape, not safe to go alone, and on and on and on.  This year I 
> became the new owner of a barely used Hunqapillar and resolved to make it 
> happen.  About a month ago I sketched out a rough plan and started putting 
> touring equipment together.  Last Thursday after spending way too much time 
> agonizing over the final details and packing for my fears instead of my 
> confidence, I locked the front door and soft pedaled through town headed 
> south towards the bootheel of New Mexico, destined for the Chiricahua 
> mountains just over the border in Arizona. 
>
>
> I figured I could do 50 miles per day, with a mix of dirt and 
> pavement—though I haven't had many rides over 15 miles in the last few 
> years.  More worrying than my ability to go the distance was the 
> resupply—mostly of water, but also food.  Water, like towns,  are scarce 
> out here and I planned to pack enough supplies to ride straight through 
> each day without needing to count on uncertain water sources (cattle tanks) 
> or stores that might be out of business or closed for the day.  I spent 4 
> days touring, camping in Forest Service campgrounds or just out in the wide 
> desert on BLM land.  
>
>
> Pictorial highlights here:  Flickr photos 
> 
>
>
> Route info here: Plotaroute 
>
>
> Other than the Chiricahua mountains which are justifiable famous among 
> bird watchers (Trogons!) and outdoorsy folk, it was wonderfully desolate 
> out there.  Ranch trucks and the Border Patrol were about the only other 
> travelers on the roads.   On one 20 mile stretch of dirt road, I spent 
> three hours spinning away in the small chainring, climbing in and out of 
> small drainages without a car passing me, or even having one in sight.  
>
> The bike did wonderfully—no mechanical failures or tire punctures.  I had 
> converted the Racing Ralphs to tubeless about a month ago to make sure they 
> would be reliable.  I still didn’t trust them completely and rode pretty 
> cautiously to prevent failure out in the boonies.  The bike came with the 
> Albatross handlebar, and though I am more used to riding with drops, the 
> Albas were fine.  I definitely missed the lack of *comfortable* hand 
> positions but they certainly didn’t prevent me from finishing the trip or 
> having a good time. 
>
>
>  
>
> john
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-14 Thread William R.
I put myself on the email list and will be getting at least two pairs of 
these for sure! Not that I really need them so much, but just for putting 
that money up for their effort, it's a good effort and I don't want things 
like this to go away. I suppose one pair will replace the thumbies that 
came stock on the Appaloosa. Not that I have any problems with them, but 
the new Silver 2's will be a nice upgrade, and the old ones will trickle 
onto my station bike. The other pair of Silver 2's? For display purposes 
until a use comes along.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-14 Thread dougP
The new shape looks especially elegant.  I can see a pair of these on the 
upright bars on my Atlantis.  That old Suntour ratchet provides just the 
right tactile feedback while still working with any number of speeds.  I 
still have an ancient pair of Bar-Cons that work perfectly after decades of 
use.  I expect the Silver 2s to perform similarly.

dougP

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:08:31 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. 
>  One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be 
> going away.  So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now.  The Silver 2 
> looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon 
> shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter.  Most importantly (to 
> me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep 
> putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a 
> pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory.  When 
> the need arises, get them from your stock.  If Riv gets a lot of early 
> adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to 
> make the next part that you can't get anywhere else.  Grant tells you on 
> the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.  
>
> Bill habitual-early-adopter Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-14 Thread Garth

  Funny how "old" stuff keeps getting re-done  !   I still use ST thumbies 
and have since they came out on the early 80's. Yep, this design is best 
for thumbies.  This improves on the ST clamp design in a major way, win-win 
! 

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[RBW] Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel

2016-10-14 Thread Marc Irwin
Long overdue, his lyrics have done more to popularize poetic techniques 
than anybody in history.

Marc

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:00:33 AM UTC-4, R Shannon wrote:
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> "Bringing It All Back Home" -:) Grant must be delighted to see this! 
>
> Best, 
> Richard

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[RBW] Re: 50cm Cheviot build

2016-10-14 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
Very Nice!!! Congrats!!You'll enjoy many miles on your Cheviot.
Jon

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 1:28:08 PM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:

> now with fenders
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[RBW] Re: PSA: b17 select sale at bike-discount.de

2016-10-14 Thread Sky Coulter
Actually, i ended up buying a second b17 select. It's just too tempting a price 
to pass up.

Sky in new west

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[RBW] Re: PSA: b17 select sale at bike-discount.de

2016-10-14 Thread Edwin W
I've always wanted one of those selects. Thanks for the tip.

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 9:07:47 PM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote:
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> If anyone is interested in getting one of these while they're still 
> available, bike-discount.de is selling the b17 select for 95 usd.  I got 
> one a couple weeks ago and they disappeared off the site but are back on 
> now.
>
>
> http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/brooks-b17-select-saddle-men-530660/wg_id-1499
>
> Sky in new west.
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[RBW] Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel

2016-10-14 Thread Christopher Murray
I thinking Dylan is a great, insightful, out-of-the-box choice. It makes the 
Nobel Committee look smart, hip, and relevant. BUT passing over Roth to give it 
to Dylan is just crazy. If Roth passes away before he can win or they just 
never give it to him, Dylan's win (and Roth's non-win) will make the award a 
bit of a joke. 

Cheers,
Chris 

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[RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

2016-10-14 Thread masmojo
The other thing to keep in mind is that the Hunqapillar is more offroad 
oriented and typically you need to allow yourself a little more standover 
because you are more likely to be stopping on uneven surfaces or pedaling and 
moving around while standing on the pedals.

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[RBW] Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel

2016-10-14 Thread Lungimsam
Whos Roth?

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[RBW] Re: Bob Dylan wins Nobel

2016-10-14 Thread Christopher Murray
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Roth

cheers,
Chris

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[RBW] Re: FS: shoes, speedplay frogs, clips, saddle, seatpost, tire liners, computer stuff, cleat covers, bell.

2016-10-14 Thread Lungimsam
Double bumpasaurus...


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[RBW] Re: FS: Cycling tight and shorts.

2016-10-14 Thread Lungimsam
Bump.

Scroll down and see closeups of the tights here:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fgp%2F70237737%40N00%2F395g70&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNET21zVLEPFxBU1DnBeY2lEctb40g

Get 'em before the wintry blasts start to blow!

 

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