[RBW] How tall is too tall for a 55cm Appaloosa?

[panog]

I'm 6'-1'' with a PBH of 91.5 taken, as they say, "to the bone". Some time ago 
I test rode a Choko-Moose 62 and found the size very doable. The bike looks big 
and tall standing next to it but the choko-moose tames it when you ride it. A 
PBH of 91-91.5cm corresponds to the very end of size 58 and the very beginning 
of size 62. Size 55 is meant to be for a PBH of up to 87cm. I think it may be 
small for a 6-footer specially when set with upright bars.

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[RBW] Re: FS: A Homer Hilsen 58, Campagnolo, 650b

[CMR]

Wow, lots of interest! Saddleheight shown is 73.5mm, my PBH is 84.5

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[RBW] How tall is too tall for a 55cm Appaloosa?

[Michael Morrissey]

I'm 6' and I ride the 55 Appaloosa. It feels big, rides big, is big, and is 
great. My PBH is 86. 

What sizes are you in other bikes?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Correct Honjo Fenders for Saluki frame?

[C.J. Filip]

Steve, your Saluki fender mounting experience and BQs insistent instruction not 
to cut was well entrenched in my mind during the process!

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[RBW] How tall is too tall for a 55cm Appaloosa?

[drew]

No expert, but 55 seems way small. I'd ride a 55 and I'm 5'10 (ride a 54 hunq 
and 56 Sam for reference). I have to think 58 would be more comfortable for 
most riding. You could always use a shorter stem if you wanted to use dirt drop 
bars...

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[RBW] Re: Correct Honjo Fenders for Saluki frame?

[C.J. Filip]

In a blatant attempt to dredge up the past, add to the knowledge base and 
show a bad, highly edited/filtered picture...


A 60cm canti Saluki with 58mm Honjo fluted fenders mated with 42mm 
Hetres/Babyshoe Pass tires!




The rear fender required considerable indentation/dimpling at the 
chainstays.  Mild indentation was required at the fork crown.  


Fenderline is a ways from perfect, but couldn't help myself from sharing!



>

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[RBW] How tall is too tall for a 55cm Appaloosa?

[A. Nostuh]

I know Riv headquarters tends towards recommending larger sizes and it works 
well for some but not all. 

That said, I'm 6'1 1/2  and long limbs no torso. 
and have no idea what my PBH is, and I get different numbers each time I 
measure. 

I kind of dig the "dirt drop" style with more seatpost and stem extension, and 
not having the top tube all up my junk

Also, the 58cm, while very pretty with double TT, looks ginormous long reach 
for a dirt drop bar/stem

Also consider the standover height will still get pretty high with big 50mm 
tires on 29er wheels



Anyone on here on the taller end of the 55cm Appaloosa spectrum?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Bill M.]

That silver bar is a Scott DH, an 80's vintage triathlon aerobar.  IIRC 
"DH" was for the inspiration, the aero tuck of a downhill ski racer. 
 Here's how it should look complete with armrests and bridge piece.  The 
bends were supposed to provide hand positions like conventional tops and 
drops as well as a laid out aero position.  

My friend had one on his Mercian for years.  I hated the thing myself.  

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 5:22:12 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote:
>
> I'm talking about this thing and the open ended silver one above which is 
> even more funky. What is it?
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:43 PM, iamkeith  > wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming you're talking about the ones that look like moustache bars 
>> with a lot of extra forward reach in the curves, and that fit mtb style 
>> levers? Interesting for sure.  
>>
>> I have never ordered from them but I think that, if you're in the States, 
>>  it is easier to do from the fairweather site.
>>
>> Here's food for thought, though:
>>
>> I was just recently wanting something like that - a moustache with the 
>> primary position being the one at rear part of the bar.   I'd like to try 
>> chocos, but can't afford them at the moment, and  am kind of concerned 
>> about how narrow they are.   Those blue lug bars don't look much, if any, 
>> wider ... and they have the unfortunate 31.8 clamp area.  
>>
>> I happened to have an extra Surly Open 40mm rise bar.  I turned it upside 
>> down and installed it, and I think it is going to be AWESOME.  (won't know 
>> for sure until the snow melts.)   It looks a LOT like that bar.  It has all 
>> the grip positions of a moustache/albastache bar. takes mountain bike brake 
>> levers, AND is actually wide enough for a change, at 666mm!  And probably 
>> cheaper, too.   It's not silver, but it will be wrapped with handlebar tape 
>> anyway. 
>>
>> Going off-topic now but, when Riv finishes up securing and finalizing 
>> their range of proprietary handlebar designs, this is what I hope they end 
>> up doing:  adding multiple, especially wider,  versions of each.   If it 
>> makes sense to have different widths of noodles and boscos,  then it makes 
>> sense to have different widths of albatross(ish), chocos and albastaches 
>> too, right?  
>>  
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:47:12 AM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Blue Lug has Riv's new bars or something very close to them 
>>> on sale.  I am thinking about ordering a pair they look great! Anyone order 
>>> from them before?
>>>
>>> https://bluelug.com/blog/kamiuma/84384/
>>>
>>> https://store.bluelug.com/nitto-b356-m-s-bar-black-13739.html
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Riv Baggins Barsack and Nitto F-15 Rack

[Bob B]

Would you please share pics?

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 8:24:30 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
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> Light khaki color, looks used but not abused. Nitto F-15 rack is gorgeous 
> of course.
>
> $135 shipped
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[RBW] FS - Riv Baggins Barsack and Nitto F-15 Rack

[Tony DeFilippo]

Light khaki color, looks used but not abused. Nitto F-15 rack is gorgeous 
of course.

$135 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Richard Rios]

I have no idea what those wild looking bars are either. But the pair of bars I 
was referencing were on the second link and have 25.4 clamp diameter. I'll 
check out fairweather to see if they got um thanks for the tip :)

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[RBW] Re: Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Richard Rios]

I have no idea what those wild looking bars are either. But the pair of bars I 
was referencing were on the second link and have 25.4 clamp diameter. I'll 
check out fairweather to see if they got um thanks for the tip :)

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[RBW] Re: Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Bob K.]

Keith, I'll follow you OT and say that I love my Surly Open Bar w/ rise but not 
as much as the Jones hbar. I sent it down to Double-A but it could get a call 
up soon.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[iamkeith]

I'm assuming you're talking about the ones that look like moustache bars 
with a lot of extra forward reach in the curves, and that fit mtb style 
levers? Interesting for sure.  

I have never ordered from them but I think that, if you're in the States, 
 it is easier to do from the fairweather site.

Here's food for thought, though:

I was just recently wanting something like that - a moustache with the 
primary position being the one at rear part of the bar.   I'd like to try 
chocos, but can't afford them at the moment, and  am kind of concerned 
about how narrow they are.   Those blue lug bars don't look much, if any, 
wider ... and they have the unfortunate 31.8 clamp area.  

I happened to have an extra Surly Open 40mm rise bar.  I turned it upside 
down and installed it, and I think it is going to be AWESOME.  (won't know 
for sure until the snow melts.)   It looks a LOT like that bar.  It has all 
the grip positions of a moustache/albastache bar. takes mountain bike brake 
levers, AND is actually wide enough for a change, at 666mm!  And probably 
cheaper, too.   It's not silver, but it will be wrapped with handlebar tape 
anyway. 

Going off-topic now but, when Riv finishes up securing and finalizing their 
range of proprietary handlebar designs, this is what I hope they end up 
doing:  adding multiple, especially wider,  versions of each.   If it makes 
sense to have different widths of noodles and boscos,  then it makes sense 
to have different widths of albatross(ish), chocos and albastaches too, 
right?  
 
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:47:12 AM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Looks like Blue Lug has Riv's new bars or something very close to them on 
> sale.  I am thinking about ordering a pair they look great! Anyone order 
> from them before?
>
> https://bluelug.com/blog/kamiuma/84384/
>
> https://store.bluelug.com/nitto-b356-m-s-bar-black-13739.html
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Toshi Takeuchi]

What in the world are those crazy curvy bars above the Riv bars?  Are they
some wierd time trial things?

Toshi


On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Richard Rios 
wrote:

> Looks like Blue Lug has Riv's new bars or something very close to them on
> sale.  I am thinking about ordering a pair they look great! Anyone order
> from them before?
>
> https://bluelug.com/blog/kamiuma/84384/
>
> https://store.bluelug.com/nitto-b356-m-s-bar-black-13739.html
>
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[RBW] FS/FT- 23" Stumpjumper, F/F & extras -$225-

[ant ritchey]

Cross-posted (as usual) to the RBWOG:
 
For sale or trade- my Stumpjumper.

A link to my CL posting with some photos- BIG RED 


These photos aren't the greatest. Even in ideal lighting, my now-stone-aged 
iphone 5 really struggles...argh...
I'd like to get $225. Buyer pays shipping w/ Bikeflights. Should be around 
$50. Got a box ready.
Holler if you have any questions, if I left anything out or if you'd like 
to see more photos.
PM/offlist if you're interested and thank fer checkin' it out!
Sincerely- Ant Ritchey in Portland OR

TRADE INTERESTS
heard rumors of that mythical 25" Stumpy... 
bikepack-y bags, Sackville stuff, big n' tall h'bar bag, aluminum Albatross 
bars, 130mm Technomic, Dia Compe 750 brakes, Honjo H95's, Pass & Stow, 
Schmidt hub, frames- 24"+ mtb/64c road...

The following is just the copy from the CL posting:
Steel Tig. Seat tube- 23" center to top. Top tube- 23" center to center. 

At long last- giving up the too-small-for-me ghost. Damn. A "Guards Red" 
stumpy, kinda my dream. No dings, no dents. Some scratches but overall 
still pretty sharp looking. The components were very clean and I'd be 
surprised if it had been ridden more than a hundred miles. I've gone over 
the whole bike, cleaned every speck of dirt, etc. BB shell and steerer 
threads are in immaculate condition. All brazeons intact and fully operable.

After doing a bit of panning between older Specialized catalog scans, the 
MOMBAT site and Google image searching..I've decided this to be an '87. 
Canti front, U-brake rear. Plenty of eyelets, including fender mounts on 
the bridges. Horizontal drop outs (Wanted to make this my flashy, commuting 
single speed rig). Just stuck 56mm actual 26" tires in there, lots of 
clearance in back, would easily accept 60mm actualcould probably 
squeeze up to a 60mm (rim depending, obvi) in front or more if you scallop 
the steerer tube a bit. Again, this was my intention after mounting 2.35 
Super Motos and seeing that they'd need a smidge more room for personal 
comfort. As-is a perfect candidate for the Compass Rat Trap Pass.

Included in the sale: brakes- one virtually new silver Tektro CR720 front, 
original Shimano U rear in very good condition; w/ pads & hangers) 2 
matching red Specialized-branded bottle cages (bearing some minimal paint 
chipping), chrome Specialized headset and seatpost (it's a 26.4, kinda 
scratched up & reads "Strong Japan").

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[RBW] Re: PSA: webspecial 58cm Atlantis

[Ryan Fleming]

and looks like somebody did snap up that blue custom mixte...hope they like 
it

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 10:57:19 AM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> with nice upspec shimano parts...XT hubs and those CX-70 
> cantilevers...considering new frame is $2400...that parts package minus the 
> saddle is more than 350.00. Hope someone snaps it up...and somebody, 
> somebody please  buy that mixte frame
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 9:40:31 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>>
>> As is said of real estate, WON'T LAST!  That's a smokin' price for an 
>> essentially new bike.  Someone is going to be very fortunate to snag this 
>> one.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 4:54:11 PM UTC-8, Jeffrey B wrote:
>>>
>>> Lovely 58cm demo Atlantis on rivbike.com going cheap!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/58cm-atlantis-demo
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Vintage Deore components, cages, tires, and more

[Shawn Granton]

UPDATE: VO cage and rear derailleur gone. Everything else still available.
-Shawn


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[RBW] Re: FS - Compass 32mm and 48mm Tires

[Pondero]

Thanks, Tony and Philip.  It sounds like they could work.  When the time 
comes, I might replace my Baby Shoe Pass (650Bx42) with these.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: PSA: webspecial 58cm Atlantis

[Ryan Fleming]

with nice upspec shimano parts...XT hubs and those CX-70 
cantilevers...considering new frame is $2400...that parts package minus the 
saddle is more than 350.00. Hope someone snaps it up...and somebody, 
somebody please  buy that mixte frame

On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 9:40:31 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> As is said of real estate, WON'T LAST!  That's a smokin' price for an 
> essentially new bike.  Someone is going to be very fortunate to snag this 
> one.
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 4:54:11 PM UTC-8, Jeffrey B wrote:
>>
>> Lovely 58cm demo Atlantis on rivbike.com going cheap!
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/58cm-atlantis-demo
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Belopsky]

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/pneubar-pname

these i guess? i imagine they will be available on riv's site soon-enough..

I am still waiting for the single speed frame that Riv's got in the works w 
the folks @ bluelug

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[RBW] Awesome new bars on Blue Lug Blog.

[Richard Rios]

Looks like Blue Lug has Riv's new bars or something very close to them on 
sale.  I am thinking about ordering a pair they look great! Anyone order 
from them before?

https://bluelug.com/blog/kamiuma/84384/

https://store.bluelug.com/nitto-b356-m-s-bar-black-13739.html


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[RBW] Thanks for Breaking on a Dime Tip!

[Surlyprof]

Keven had suggested folding over a piece of sandpaper to achieve that 
thickness.  That, combined with one of Grant's blug tips always worked for me.  
Once I have the sandpaper in there, I strap a section of inner tube on the 
brake lever to hold it closed while I tighten down the brake shoe bolt.  Works 
pretty well.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Compass 32mm and 48mm Tires

[Tony DeFilippo]

Both tire sets have sold thanks!
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:04 AM Philip Kim  wrote:

> Chris,
>
> They fit my Cheviot with Paul Racers just fine on A23 rims. Probably
> could've done SKS fenders by cutting them up so they don't go under the
> brake arms. Brake clearance was more of an issue with the Tektro 559's.
>
> Currently also have SBH's on my BDB Pelican on Synergy Rims. They measure
> at 44.5mm. the BDB Pelican has the Grand Bois fork crown which is 53mm, and
> I believe the earlier Ramblers use the Pacenti PBP crown which is 56.5mm
> clearance.
>
> I'm going to mount them up to my Pacenti Brevet Rims and I'll take
> measurements later tonight. My custom is also coming within the next couple
> of weeks, and using the Pacenti PBP crown and Paul racers. I can see if
> they will fit under the fenders then.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 8:32:36 AM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> Did the 48s actually measure 48 for you? ...and for which rim?
>
> I've been sort of wondering if these would fit my Rambler without
> fenders.  My guess is yes.  I'm probably too indecisive at this point to be
> your buyer.  Just pondering...
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> 1 pair - Compass 32mm Extra Light Tires, low mileage - $90 shipped obo
>
> 1 pair - Compass 48mm Extra Light Tires, low mileage, used tubeless - $110
> shipped obo
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS - Compass 32mm and 48mm Tires

[Philip Kim]

Chris,

They fit my Cheviot with Paul Racers just fine on A23 rims. Probably 
could've done SKS fenders by cutting them up so they don't go under the 
brake arms. Brake clearance was more of an issue with the Tektro 559's.

Currently also have SBH's on my BDB Pelican on Synergy Rims. They measure 
at 44.5mm. the BDB Pelican has the Grand Bois fork crown which is 53mm, and 
I believe the earlier Ramblers use the Pacenti PBP crown which is 56.5mm 
clearance. 

I'm going to mount them up to my Pacenti Brevet Rims and I'll take 
measurements later tonight. My custom is also coming within the next couple 
of weeks, and using the Pacenti PBP crown and Paul racers. I can see if 
they will fit under the fenders then.


On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 8:32:36 AM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> Did the 48s actually measure 48 for you? ...and for which rim?
>
> I've been sort of wondering if these would fit my Rambler without fenders. 
>  My guess is yes.  I'm probably too indecisive at this point to be your 
> buyer.  Just pondering...
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> 1 pair - Compass 32mm Extra Light Tires, low mileage - $90 shipped obo
>>
>> 1 pair - Compass 48mm Extra Light Tires, low mileage, used tubeless - 
>> $110 shipped obo
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Compass 32mm and 48mm Tires

[Tony DeFilippo]

You know I just pulled them off the rim last night and dont think I ever
measured them. They definitely didnt run over 48mm on my bike as I easily
fit them with fenders on my Bombadil.

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[RBW] Re: FS - Compass 32mm and 48mm Tires

[Pondero]

Tony,

Did the 48s actually measure 48 for you? ...and for which rim?

I've been sort of wondering if these would fit my Rambler without fenders. 
 My guess is yes.  I'm probably too indecisive at this point to be your 
buyer.  Just pondering...

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> 1 pair - Compass 32mm Extra Light Tires, low mileage - $90 shipped obo
>
> 1 pair - Compass 48mm Extra Light Tires, low mileage, used tubeless - $110 
> shipped obo
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Thanks for Breaking on a Dime Tip!

[Garth]

Mark, what I expressed about brake noise is from my own experiences, not from 
someone's book or web article about someone elses. Your assumptions of what I 
said are yours, not mine. 


As for Steve he cannot help himself. The mockery of not understanding is 
unbearable indeed. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thanks for Breaking on a Dime Tip!

[Michael Hechmer]

That's what confused me.  Michael

On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 5:59:49 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Ok. What I saw was the leading edge as defined by direction of travel by 
> the rim. So it matches the execution of your diagram, though your way is 
> much simpler to say.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 3:51:06 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> Most people would call the edge that toes in the leading edge, as it is 
>> toward the front of the bike.   For example,
>>
>> "*Toe-in:* The angle that the rubber brake pad contacts the rim of the 
>> wheel when the brakes are applied. It can be: flat, correct toe-in or 
>> reverse toe-in. Flat is when the whole brake pad hits the rim at once. 
>> Correct toe-in is when the leading edge of the brake pad hits first. 
>> Reverse toe-in is when the trailing edge hits first."  -- 
>> https://www.bikeman.com/bicycle-repair-tech-info/featured-tech-articles/704-rim-brake-adjustment
>>
>> "The shoe should be set so that the front edge of the shoe contacts the 
>> rim slightly before the rear edge. This is commonly called "toe-in." If 
>> this is not set perfectly, normal pad wear will eventually even it out, but 
>> braking will be less effective, and the brakes may squeal until the shoe 
>> has worn in."  --http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rim-brakes.html
>>
>>
>> "What is toe-in? It means setting up the brake pads so that the fronts 
>> are closer to the rim than the rears."  --
>> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/a-better-way-to-adjust-toe-in/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/07/2017 05:32 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> The trailing end of the pad toes in, so the dime goes between the pad and 
>> rim at the leading end of the brake pad to create the gap at the leading 
>> edge, toe-in at the trailing edge.
>>
>>
>> If you agree with my nomenclature, what you have is toe-out, not toe-in.
>>
>>
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 2:19:50 PM UTC-7, RichS wrote: 
>>>
>>> Patrick, not to dispute the performance of your brakes - glad they're 
>>> quiet now. But did you mean "trailing" end of the pad? Always thought 
>>> that's where the "spacer" was positioned (as shown in the video Jeff 
>>> provided). 
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 1:45:17 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 Since getting my new rims on the Hunqapillar, I’ve been fiddling with 
 the toe-in and squealing all the while. Then I found in Evernote the tip 
 from someone here to use a dime on the leading end of the brake pads to 
 set 
 the toe-in properly”! After commandeering my two wee-est daughters to be 
 my 
 third hand … silent brakes! Delicious! Great tip! Thanks! 

 With abandon, 
 Patrick 

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 www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 


>>

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