[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Joe Bernard]

Hence, "cool if that's what you're looking for." Enjoy!

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[RBW] PSA: Bay Area custom I wish I could afford

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Looks like it's a Protovelo. Horrible pictures, cool bike. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Great route. Lots of little towns, which makes it easy to travel light. Plus, 
you'll be riding all the best parts of it. If you end up riding through 
Nehalem, stop at Buttercup for THE BEST chowder on the Oregon coast. Each 
serving is made fresh with super unique flavors. Gluten free and vegan options 
too! Also, they have great ice cream.

Cheers! 
Tim
Portland, OR

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[RBW] late summer overnight

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Looks like a fantastic set up! If it's not stealing the thread, I'd love to 
hear you're thoughts on the Soma Shikoro tire what size is that?

Tim
Portland, OR

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[RBW] Re: late summer overnight

[Deacon Patrick]

Man. Indiana makes my Colorado terrain look positively flat. Grin. (Picture 
has your Atlantis going straight up). 

Isn't it wonderful to get out, wherever out is?!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:10:15 PM UTC-6, MattB wrote:
>
> It was a perfect weekend for a long summer overnight. The corn looks 
> really good and it was a pleasure travelling under the sonic blanket of the 
> cicada chorus, you mid-westerners know what I'm talking about. Here is the 
> Atlantis somewhere in SW Indiana farm land.
>
> BTW, I can't say enough good things about the hub area rack and bags. I 
> absolutely love the capacity and utility.
>
> Sorry for the poor photo quality
>

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[RBW] late summer overnight

[WETH]

That's a nice set-up and a good looking Atlantis.  Glad you took advantage of 
the nice weather.  

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Jeremy Tavan]

Low power, low weight is exactly what I'm looking for. Just a little 
something to help with stop/starts while hauling modest loads (like a kid 
on a trailercycle, or a couple bags of groceries) around town. It pushed 
all the right buttons for the project I've got in mind. Were I building up 
a true cargo bike with a big box or an extended tail, I'd be more 
interested in the high power mid drive kits, but for this the elegance of a 
direct drive seems suitable. And hey, it's a toy.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 7:22:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It appears to be a low power, low weight mid-drive for the price of higher 
> power/weight systems. Cool if that's what you're looking for, but it seems 
> geared more towards the very restrictive European market. 

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[Jonathan D.]

I second Doug's recommendations and John's book recommendations. My wife and I 
rode the Oregon section in 2008 fully loaded on a Trek 1000 and a skinny 
cyclecross bike doing 50 miles a day. We didn't have the right equipment, the 
wind was always in our face and I learned why I should have purchased a Brooks 
B17. It was still a great ride, great campgrounds and inould do it again just 
with a Riv next time. The book was great. 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Joe Bernard]

It appears to be a low power, low weight mid-drive for the price of higher 
power/weight systems. Cool if that's what you're looking for, but it seems 
geared more towards the very restrictive European market. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem H - 59 - Green - $700 with fenders

[Sky Coulter]

Wow, pretty great price. A pic might help make it sell even faster.

Sky in new west

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-7, mike smith wrote:
>
> Bike is hardly used.  I typically ride my Surly LHT.  its collecting dust.
>
> $700 plus shipping from 34695.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: large early All Rounder frameset 26" wheel

[Steven Sweedler]

Jim, I tried buy this bike, I had a connection with Larry Black, while
touring through Nueva Helvetia, Uruguay, I met a bicycle collector who went
on to work for Larry. After  several back  and forths, he would't sell it
as a frameset, and I couldn't  get a price built up. Frustrating indeed.
Within the next year Cindy and plan to ride the GAP/C to DC and try to
see this bike. But I would prefer a larger one. Thanks for the reponse.
Steve

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:15 PM Jim M.  wrote:

> Here is the only one I know of:
> http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804
>
>
>
> It's been for sale for quite a while. Go for it!
>
> jim m
> walnut creek, ca
>
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:48:34 PM UTC-7, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>> I realize this is more than a longshot. Looking for an early Rivendell
>> All Rounder frameset, 26" wheels, can accomodate a crank bolt to saddle
>> height of 810 mm.  top tube of 60 cm  (+or -)Thank you. Steve
>> Plymouth, NH
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[RBW] Re: WTB: large early All Rounder frameset 26" wheel

[Jim M.]

Here is the only one I know of: 
http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804 



It's been for sale for quite a while. Go for it! 

jim m
walnut creek, ca

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:48:34 PM UTC-7, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> I realize this is more than a longshot. Looking for an early Rivendell All 
> Rounder frameset, 26" wheels, can accomodate a crank bolt to saddle height 
> of 810 mm.  top tube of 60 cm  (+or -)Thank you. Steve
> Plymouth, NH
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> Plymouth, New Hampshire
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[RBW] FS: Clem H - 59 - Green - $700 with fenders

[mike smith]

Bike is hardly used.  I typically ride my Surly LHT.  its collecting dust.

$700 plus shipping from 34695.


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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[dougP]

Benz:

I forgot to mention one way cars.  Between major airports, e.g., SJO to 
PDX, you can often rent a one way dirt cheap but you have to shop around.  
Rental companies often wind up with an excess in one location & shortage at 
another.  You'd need to check several agencies, and it's luck of the draw 
on what you get.  But if you're traveling alone, you really don't care and 
the a tiny hatchback is perfect for one person + one bike.  OTH they could 
have a glut of giant SUVs.  And of course there's the shear hassle of 
driving 700 miles.  But it's a decent option to keep in mind.

dougP

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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[RBW] Re: Interesting bell-Made in Germany, Latin

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Since no one has said this yet, that is a beautiful unique vintage bell.  
Does it work?

On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 10:59:42 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:
>
> I bought a 1978 Schwinn Breeze 3 speed and this was on it. Can anybody 
> translate 
>
> mike goldman 
> rhode island 
>  
> Actress Tells All: "I Felt Bloated, Tired...Now I Know Why" 
> ActivatedYou 
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/59a0f20826a9372076f8bst02duc

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[RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you.  

Matt B and LBieriot:  I'm a fan of fenders, both for prolonging the life of 
bike and tires and also for completing the look of the bike.  Currently, 
I'm running 52 mm Big Bens and have little give for fender clearance.  Part 
of the point of getting this bike was the ability to have big fat tires I 
could run at a low psi.  I would be willing to drop to a 48 mm but am 
concerned about other aspects of sand, i.e.clogging the fenders.  How much 
clearance space is recommended?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[James Warren]

Very weird to think that 17 years ago, it's possible that you were on your Atlantis. "Hey! That bike's a real classic, isn't it?"-Original Message-
From: "John A. Bennett" 
Sent: Aug 28, 2017 3:22 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

I used Bicycling The Pacific Coast Highway on a trip from Fort Bragg to San Diego 17 years ago, and found it both indispensable and without flaw in those pre-GPS days. Glad to see it's still being updated (and published). John in Portland, OregonOn Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought Bicycling The Pacific Coast by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do vacation things.Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL



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[RBW] WTB: large early All Rounder frameset 26" wheel

[Steven Sweedler]

I realize this is more than a longshot. Looking for an early Rivendell All
Rounder frameset, 26" wheels, can accomodate a crank bolt to saddle height
of 810 mm.  top tube of 60 cm  (+or -)Thank you. Steve
Plymouth, NH
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Surlyprof]

Maintenance.  That is exactly why I'd like to upgrade my wife's Public. 
 Bikes like that are pretty cheaply outfitted.  I always struggle with her 
brakes and keeping the Nexxus hub dialed in.  I'm scheming to slowly change 
out Riv quality parts as the cheaper parts wear out or become problematic. 
 Eventually... the frame.  Gotta play the long game!

For straight bars, I've only used mtb click shifters.  Don't know what 
thumbies would be like.

John

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 1:48:25 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> It is a Raleigh comfort bike with twist shifters.
> Always had problems with the front chainring shifts not working well and 
> chain drop. Hesitations, etc. Ever since it was new.
>
> I figure that friction shifting will get her an easy shift every time.
>
> I think that IRD set Riv sells looks good, and it is a set. I might try 
> them on the straight bar and see what she thinks.
>
> Would be nice if she had a Rivbike, then the maintenance would be easier 
> for me. And I'd feel better buying new components for the build rather than 
> putting things on her Raleigh that maybe can't be used later on a possible 
> Rivbike.
>
> Maybe I should just get her a rivbike anyway one day without asking. A 
> Cheviut would give her a comfort type bike so it would not be so different, 
> and the maintenance would be easier for me and hopefully she would like the 
> shifters better.
>

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[RBW] Re: Portland to SF?

[John A. Bennett]

I used *Bicycling The Pacific Coast Highway* on a trip from Fort Bragg to 
San Diego 17 years ago, and found it both indispensable and without flaw in 
those pre-GPS days. 

Glad to see it's still being updated (and published). 

John in Portland, Oregon

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:17:37 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Since we're touched upon Rivendell touring setups, can I ask for your 
> experience, hints, and advice doing this ride, southbound, and especially 
> if you started in SF? How did you get to Portland? Amtrak?What 
> routes/places should I try to hit, and what things should I try to do? 
> Conversely, what routes/places/things should I avoid?
>
> I'm planning a mid-Oct start and had bought *Bicycling The Pacific Coast* 
> by Vicky Spring as reference. I'll be riding solo, and don't have any 
> particular goal other than enjoying myself for a couple of weeks. I won't 
> go hardcore and do a full-on bike-camp, so it'll be mostly credit card 
> touring; I will be bring some rudimentary camping equipment (e.g., tent, 
> sleeping bag, stove, etc) so I won't be caught out if I fall behind 
> schedule and fail to make checkpoints in time.
>
> I must confess that I've never done any cyclotour before (not even a 
> S24O), but I've camped, and my cycling fitness isn't terrible; for example, 
> today's ride was ~70mi/6000ft and I averaged ~14mph. I do hope the route 
> won't be so hilly, as I want to take time to enjoy the scenery and do 
> vacation things.
>
> Riv content: I will do this ride with either my Custom or Atlantis. If I 
> get nutty enough, I may even ride my Wilbury. LOL
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Ron Mc]

if it will make you feel better, think of Microshift as the new SunTour, 
because that's what it is.  
Between my daughter and I, we have Microshift index on two bikes, bar-ends 
and thumbies, and they're Perfect after years and long miles.  

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:58:38 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> ps - try Universal Cycles
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:57:43 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Microshift indexed thumbies 
>>
>> 
>> she will like you for it
>>
>> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:24:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> You'll get friction front, index rear with Shimano or MicroSHIFT 
>>> thumbies. She might be happy with that..friction front is easy to learn. 
>>> Beyond that I would warn against buying her shifters or a bike YOU like 
>>> better. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Bay Area custom I wish I could afford

[Bill Lindsay]

I gotta get me some of those made in USA Nitto handlebars.  ;-)

BL in EC

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 9:34:21 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/rivendell-custom-bicycle-58cm/6282926428.html
>
> This is my size but I can't afford another bike right now.  Bad photos but 
> nice components. 
>
>
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

[Bill Lindsay]

Yesterday I said:

"Bike #4, my Niner Seven Fiver, could hit 200 tomorrow, if I can get a 100k 
in on my first day of sabbatical.  "

I managed to get a 100k in on a meandering journey through the East Bay 
Hills, this time tending towards the North.  The scenic highlight was a 
quick out and back across the Carquinez Bridge bike path, which connects 
Crockett to Vallejo.  





That wraps up bike number 4 out of 10.  My Niner Seven Fiver is now in the 
books, although this bike won't likely stay on the hook, as I'm probably 
going to use this bike for the Marin Mountains 200k in October.  If I can 
manage to acquire a secret weapon, then I'll absolutely use this bike for 
that 1/4 dirt, 130 mile ride.  911 miles is the running total, with three 
more days in August.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Ron Mc]

ps - try Universal Cycles

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:57:43 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Microshift indexed thumbies 
>
> 
> she will like you for it
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:24:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> You'll get friction front, index rear with Shimano or MicroSHIFT 
>> thumbies. She might be happy with that..friction front is easy to learn. 
>> Beyond that I would warn against buying her shifters or a bike YOU like 
>> better. 
>
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Ron Mc]

Microshift indexed thumbies 


she will like you for it

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>
> You'll get friction front, index rear with Shimano or MicroSHIFT thumbies. 
> She might be happy with that..friction front is easy to learn. Beyond that 
> I would warn against buying her shifters or a bike YOU like better. 

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Re: [RBW] Roadini Gray vs Blue?

[Sky Coulter]

The roadini actually inspired me to pull my romulus frameset out of the closet 
and build it up without fenders or racks. Other than loosing my chain on a 
shakedown ride today, i couldn't be happier with it.

That said if i was buying a roadini, it'd be the grey fer sure. Love it w the 
old style heron decals.

Sky in new west

> On Aug 28, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Daniel D.  wrote:
> 
> Went to riv today.  Blue looks great in person, happy with my order. 
> Generally imo Rivs look better in person photos don't do them justice.  
> Bummer no 50 built for a test ride.
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[RBW] Roadini Gray vs Blue?

[Daniel D.]

Went to riv today.  Blue looks great in person, happy with my order. 
Generally imo Rivs look better in person photos don't do them justice.  Bummer 
no 50 built for a test ride.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Jeremy Tavan]

I am apparently a sucker for crowdfunded technology projects, against my 
better judgement. I've pre-ordered one of these and will be installing it 
on my Clem. I will share my results, when and if it arrives.

/Jeremy

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 12:16:46 PM UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] 
wrote:
>
> If ever someone gets to try this, please post your experience 
> http://www.bimoz.ch/de/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 August 2017 07:40:08 UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> https://content.superpedestrian.com/the-copenhagen-wheel
>>
>> My wife talks electric bikes. Thought I could get her a rivbike and then 
>> just pop a Copenhagen wheel on there.
>> Clean, and she doesn't have to ride a 55lb electric bike.
>> Anyone tried it on their riv?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Joe Bernard]

You'll get friction front, index rear with Shimano or MicroSHIFT thumbies. She 
might be happy with that..friction front is easy to learn. Beyond that I would 
warn against buying her shifters or a bike YOU like better. 

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[RBW] Roadini Gray vs Blue?

[Daniel D.]

Went to riv today.  Blue looks great in person, happy with my order. Bummer no 
50 built for a test ride.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Tektro R556 brakes

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:03:19 PM UTC-4, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>
> Rebuilding a Riv Rambouillet in orange to make it a lively sport touring 
> bike. Current config w Nitto M13 front rack is 23.5 lbs on bathroom scales. 
> Once I finish it out will weigh it on Park bike shop scales. 
>
> Nitto road bars & Pearl stem
> Generic bar tape that came on bike
> Ultegra headset threaded
> Suntour XC 2-bolt seatpost 
> Cane Creek brake levers
> Shimano 10 speed bar ends (right indexed)
> Ultegra chain
> Ultegra 12-30 cassette 10 speed
> Sugino Alpina triple crank & rings for 10 speed
> IRD/Tange cartridge bottom bracket
> Shimano CX70 front der
> XTR M952 rear der
> Chris King R45 hubs (silver), DT double butted spokes (silver), HED 
> Belgium rims (black)
> Deore XT QRs (silver)
> QBP standard inner tubes
> Soma Supple Vitesse 700x38 tires
> Berthoud saddle - about same weight as B17 (may change to Cambium) 
> King Cage Iris bottle cages (2)
> SR platform pedals for time being 
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 6:45:49 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> With 10+ gears, that is...
>>
>> What components are on it?
>> Just curious to see.
>> Thinking of dropping weight for my component replacements.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Frame size is 54

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:03:19 PM UTC-4, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>
> Rebuilding a Riv Rambouillet in orange to make it a lively sport touring 
> bike. Current config w Nitto M13 front rack is 23.5 lbs on bathroom scales. 
> Once I finish it out will weigh it on Park bike shop scales. 
>
> Nitto road bars & Pearl stem
> Generic bar tape that came on bike
> Ultegra headset threaded
> Suntour XC 2-bolt seatpost 
> Cane Creek brake levers
> Shimano 10 speed bar ends (right indexed)
> Ultegra chain
> Ultegra 12-30 cassette 10 speed
> Sugino Alpina triple crank & rings for 10 speed
> IRD/Tange cartridge bottom bracket
> Shimano CX70 front der
> XTR M952 rear der
> Chris King R45 hubs (silver), DT double butted spokes (silver), HED 
> Belgium rims (black)
> Deore XT QRs (silver)
> QBP standard inner tubes
> Soma Supple Vitesse 700x38 tires
> Berthoud saddle - about same weight as B17 (may change to Cambium) 
> King Cage Iris bottle cages (2)
> SR platform pedals for time being 
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 6:45:49 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> With 10+ gears, that is...
>>
>> What components are on it?
>> Just curious to see.
>> Thinking of dropping weight for my component replacements.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Rebuilding a Riv Rambouillet in orange to make it a lively sport touring 
bike. Current config w Nitto M13 front rack is 23.5 lbs on bathroom scales. 
Once I finish it out will weigh it on Park bike shop scales. 

Nitto road bars & Pearl stem
Generic bar tape that came on bike
Ultegra headset threaded
Suntour XC 2-bolt seatpost 
Cane Creek brake levers
Shimano 10 speed bar ends (right indexed)
Ultegra chain
Ultegra 12-30 cassette 10 speed
Sugino Alpina triple crank & rings for 10 speed
IRD/Tange cartridge bottom bracket
Shimano CX70 front der
XTR M952 rear der
Chris King R45 hubs (silver), DT double butted spokes (silver), HED Belgium 
rims (black)
Deore XT QRs (silver)
QBP standard inner tubes
Soma Supple Vitesse 700x38 tires
Berthoud saddle - about same weight as B17 (may change to Cambium) 
King Cage Iris bottle cages (2)
SR platform pedals for time being 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA


On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 6:45:49 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> With 10+ gears, that is...
>
> What components are on it?
> Just curious to see.
> Thinking of dropping weight for my component replacements.
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Jon BALER]

IRD Silver SOS power ratchet Thumb shifters on Choco bars.  I have left and 
right switched, so I can mount them on the inner part of the grip.

1.  I like that they have enough cable pull to use with Shimano Dynasys (10 
speed mountain)
2.  Yes, easy to use.
3.  I'd say I shift one direction with thumb, and the other direction up 
with pointer finger.  
4. I have micro-shift on my surly ICT, which has a more traditional 
mountain bike bar.  But I use the rear der with index shifting.



On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 9:30:36 AM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> 1.What kind do you like?
>
> 2.Are they easy to use? I am used to whole fist shifting with bar ends, 
> but wonder how easy it is to accurately flip the lever into the next cog 
> with thumbies.
>
> 3.Can you really  just use your thumb, or do you wind up trimming alot 
> with thumb and index/middle grip?
>
> 4. Do they work well on mountain/comfort bike straight bar setups?
>
> 5. Can I use my Silver shifter levers mounted to a Paul type stop, or are 
> those dog hind leg shaped shimano levers better for thumb shifting?
>
> Thanks for the info.
> My wife's bike has index twist shifters which have never performed that 
> well and was thinking of redo-ing her cockpit with ergo grips, Shimano MTN 
> type levers and thumb shifters.
> I'd really like to get her a Rivendell mixte, but she likes her Raleigh.
> Good thing is the thumbie setup would be totally transferable to an RBW 
> bike later.
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[lum gim fong]

It is a Raleigh comfort bike with twist shifters.
Always had problems with the front chainring shifts not working well and 
chain drop. Hesitations, etc. Ever since it was new.

I figure that friction shifting will get her an easy shift every time.

I think that IRD set Riv sells looks good, and it is a set. I might try 
them on the straight bar and see what she thinks.

Would be nice if she had a Rivbike, then the maintenance would be easier 
for me. And I'd feel better buying new components for the build rather than 
putting things on her Raleigh that maybe can't be used later on a possible 
Rivbike.

Maybe I should just get her a rivbike anyway one day without asking. A 
Cheviut would give her a comfort type bike so it would not be so different, 
and the maintenance would be easier for me and hopefully she would like the 
shifters better.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Jon BALER]

My local LBS (Cycle Mill, Ellicott City, MD) is a Copenhagen wheel dealer 
and has one available to demo.  

They let people do quick demos at their recent party.  Everyone was really 
impressed with how powerful and smooth it was.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 3:16:46 PM UTC-4, Ash [who works to bike] 
wrote:
>
> If ever someone gets to try this, please post your experience 
> http://www.bimoz.ch/de/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 August 2017 07:40:08 UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> https://content.superpedestrian.com/the-copenhagen-wheel
>>
>> My wife talks electric bikes. Thought I could get her a rivbike and then 
>> just pop a Copenhagen wheel on there.
>> Clean, and she doesn't have to ride a 55lb electric bike.
>> Anyone tried it on their riv?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Bay Area custom I wish I could afford

[Ryan Thompson]

You guys in CA have all the cool craigslist listingsprobably a good 
thing because that bike is my size ;-).

Ryan 
Arlington, VA

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:02:09 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Wow. I'm guessing somebody is working on this deal as I write. I'm in the 
> same bike boat at the moment.
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 12:34:21 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/rivendell-custom-bicycle-58cm/6282926428.html
>>
>> This is my size but I can't afford another bike right now.  Bad photos 
>> but nice components. 
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone Kabuki SMD on Craigslist (Woodstock, GA)

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

No, not a GP design in 1978. The Kabukis were pre-Grant by a ways. I had a 
Kabuki SS Submariner mixte for a moment, and I currently have a Kabuki SYD 
mixte frameset hanging in my closet, awaiting a build. The frames are okay, 
the parts decent Suntour, but it's not a $300 bike.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 9:30:57 AM UTC-4, Doug H. wrote:
>
>
> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bik/d/bridgestone-kabuki-smd/6274820442.html
>
> The listing says this has stainless steel tubes with aluminum lugs and was 
> marketed for use near the ocean where rusting is a problem. Has anyone seen 
> one of these? I wonder if this was a Grant design.
>
> Nice looking bike!
>
> Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Bay Area custom I wish I could afford

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow. I'm guessing somebody is working on this deal as I write. I'm in the 
same bike boat at the moment.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 12:34:21 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/rivendell-custom-bicycle-58cm/6282926428.html
>
> This is my size but I can't afford another bike right now.  Bad photos but 
> nice components. 
>
>
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Ash [who works to bike]]

If ever someone gets to try this, please post your 
experience http://www.bimoz.ch/de/





On Saturday, 26 August 2017 07:40:08 UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> https://content.superpedestrian.com/the-copenhagen-wheel
>
> My wife talks electric bikes. Thought I could get her a rivbike and then 
> just pop a Copenhagen wheel on there.
> Clean, and she doesn't have to ride a 55lb electric bike.
> Anyone tried it on their riv?
>

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[RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

[LBleriot]

Fenders should take care of most of the grit, but the drivetrain is cheap 
to replace compared to the frame.  Riding and storing your steel frame near 
the sea will result in corrosion.  And quick.  Make sure that you treat the 
inside of your frame.  Also, rinse and wax the frame and lube all of the 
bolts.  I usually soap and hose off the cassette after it cruds up. 
 Regularly pulling and lubing the BB shell is also a good idea.

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 10:55:35 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> I recently relocated due to work and now do the majority of my riding by 
> the beach.  I love the natural beauty of sand, surf, ospreys, and pelicans 
> but hate what the sand is doing to my gears.  A gritty crust rapidly 
> develops on my cassette and chain.  I have been cleaning the chain weekly 
> and wiping the bike down daily.  Any advice from beach riders as to what I 
> should be doing to maintain the bike?
>

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[RBW] FS Sam Hillborn 55cm

[Carla Waugh]

Chris King headset included and Thin Gripster pedals, Dark Grey VP-001.

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[RBW] FS/T: Brooks Flyer Special, used, $75

[Jeremy Till]

For sale or trade is one Brooks Flyer Special saddle.  The Flyer is a 
sprung B.17, and "Special" refers to having the big hand-hammered copper 
rivets and some extra chamfering on the bottom edges of the leather. 
 Bought new by me in 2013, used regularly through 2016, used only 
occasionally since then.   This is the "Honey" color, although it has 
darkened slightly because I have treated it regularly (~once a year) with a 
small amount of Proofide.  I always was conscientious about using a saddle 
cover in wet weather.  There are some scuffs in the leather between the 
rivets, and there is one spot on the left side of the nose where the 
leather bows out slightly.  It has been that way since new, and I never 
found it to be an issue while pedaling.  Pictures are here:  

https://flic.kr/s/aHsm3vkzZq

I'm selling it because after giving them a good try (3 years of riding), my 
riding style has changed slightly and I've come to prefer saddles that are 
slightly narrower and with a more modern geometry.  For that reason, I 
would: 

1. Trade straight across for a Brooks Cambium C.15 or C.17, regular or 
carved, any color, in similar or better condition, or a leather saddle with 
a more modern profile (Rivet, Berthoud, etc., but not Selle Anatomica).
2. Do a partial or full trade for a WTB Pure V saddle, depending on the 
model (Team, Race, Pro, etc.) and condition.  
3. Sell this saddle for $75.  

I am located in Sacramento, CA and could do local pickup either in 
Sacramento or the SF Bay Area.  Would ship as well, especially for trades. 
 I will also include the adjustment wrench and the rest of my large tin of 
Proofide.  

Thanks for looking,

Jeremy

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Surlyprof]

1.  I've tried the Sunrace and Paul thumbies and am currently running 
Silver shifters on Paul thumbies.  I like them both but prefer the 
Silver/Paul combo.  They are very long compared to the Sunrace shifters but 
they work very well.  Nice and smooth with a great look with the CNC'ed 
aluminum.

2.  Once I got used to thumbies, instead of bar ends, I liked them.  Very 
easy to use once you get them in the position you like.  That took a little 
experimentation.  I'll go back to Albastache with bar ends when the 
shoulder heals.  I really miss that set up.

3.  I use only a thumb when shifting them down but use my index finger and 
thumb when shifting up and trimming.

4.  Haven't tried them on a straight bar.  I use them now because I shifted 
from Albastache to Albatross due to a shoulder injury.  I found bar ends 
were too long on the Albatross bars and I'd occassionally shift with my 
knees when turning.  I used the Sunrace thumbies with Boscos and they 
worked well.  The "not indexing click" was a little weird at first but then 
you just forget about it. 

5.  I moved mine right over from the bar end pods without a hitch.   Don't 
forget that you will need to get the adapter for the Silver shifters 
(https://www.rivbike.com/products/paul-thumbie-silver-shifer-adapter-hardware-pair-17145).
 
 I forgot about that and it stalled my build for days.  Torture! 

I feel your marital pain.  I've been trying to convince my wife how much 
she'd love the Riv mountain mixte but she will not give up her bright 
orange Public with twist shifters.  I also think she saw right through my 
thinly veiled attempt to add a Mountain Mixte to the household for my 
personal use.  I'm sure she could hear my future argument for a 650b 
Hunq... "But the mountain mixte is *your* bike dear!"


John



On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 6:30:36 AM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> 1.What kind do you like?
>
> 2.Are they easy to use? I am used to whole fist shifting with bar ends, 
> but wonder how easy it is to accurately flip the lever into the next cog 
> with thumbies.
>
> 3.Can you really  just use your thumb, or do you wind up trimming alot 
> with thumb and index/middle grip?
>
> 4. Do they work well on mountain/comfort bike straight bar setups?
>
> 5. Can I use my Silver shifter levers mounted to a Paul type stop, or are 
> those dog hind leg shaped shimano levers better for thumb shifting?
>
> Thanks for the info.
> My wife's bike has index twist shifters which have never performed that 
> well and was thinking of redo-ing her cockpit with ergo grips, Shimano MTN 
> type levers and thumb shifters.
> I'd really like to get her a Rivendell mixte, but she likes her Raleigh.
> Good thing is the thumbie setup would be totally transferable to an RBW 
> bike later.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Olive Acorn Trifold, Gravel Kings, Tiagra Brake Levers, Claris Derailers

[Johnny Alien]

Claris derailers are sold.

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[RBW] PSA: Bay Area custom I wish I could afford

[Surlyprof]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/rivendell-custom-bicycle-58cm/6282926428.html

This is my size but I can't afford another bike right now.  Bad photos but 
nice components. 



John

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[RBW] Re: FS: Olive Acorn Trifold, Gravel Kings, Tiagra Brake Levers, Claris Derailers

[Johnny Alien]

Feel free to make offers. I am going to be moving and want to clear out all 
the parts and extras I have.

I also have a bench mount Park Stand.  The PCS-12 in great shape that I 
won't need anymore.  *$75 shipped*

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[RBW] S24O Report: Avoiding the Toilet-Eating-Bog by Bikepacking to Another

[WETH]

A fabulous report, well written and accompanied by beautiful photos.  I'm glad 
the reservoirs are full.  Sorry to learn about the bathroom.
Best wishes,
Erl

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[RBW] Sold snoqualmie-pass tires

[Carla Waugh]

Sold

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[RBW] Bridgestone Kabuki SMD on Craigslist (Woodstock, GA)

[Doug H.]

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bik/d/bridgestone-kabuki-smd/6274820442.html

The listing says this has stainless steel tubes with aluminum lugs and was 
marketed for use near the ocean where rusting is a problem. Has anyone seen 
one of these? I wonder if this was a Grant design.

Nice looking bike!

Doug

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam chainline w/ PW freewheel?

[Wally Estrella]

An update, of sorts, I think and hope ;)

I finally and recently received a PW built rear wheel w/ a double freewheel 
on it.  The chainline seems just fine.  I didn't check dimensions on it, 
but looks fine.  I must've been more worried about the numbers than 
operation of it, thus posted the original question in ignorance and hint of 
stupidity.





On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 11:10:07 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Wow!  Color me surprised if that really is the case that the FW side is 
> 46mm chainline.  Also, it's a real bummer that Phil doesn't list this info 
> on their website.
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:10:59 AM UTC-8, Wally Estrella wrote:
>>
>> The 46 was given to me by Phil Wood sales staff.  I've seen it somewhere 
>> also, let me see if I can dig that up
>> Yes, the Paul hubs are @ 44.  I'm not sure about WI.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:24:10 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Wally-
>>>
>>> Can I ask where you read that the chainline on the Phil hub was 42mm on 
>>> the fixed side and 46mm on the freewheel side?  I've been working on 
>>> flip-flop hubs for a long time, I even had Phil one for a while (not on the 
>>> QB, on my erstwhile Salsa Casseroll), and I've never heard that before.  To 
>>> my knowledge, Phil has only ever made their track hubs for a standard 42mm 
>>> chainline.  
>>>
>>> If I remember correctly, Paul made their track hubs with a 
>>> slightly-wider-than-normal 44mm chainline and the chainline on the White 
>>> Industries ENO hubs was around 47mm.  
>>>
>>> Since a flip-flop hub is designed to allow swapping between cogs/FW on 
>>> either side without changing anything else, it would be really weird to 
>>> have one where the chainlines didn't line up.   I could certainly imagine 
>>> that when all was said and done and you measured chainline with a fixed cog 
>>> and freewheel installed that they weren't dead on the same, but I'd have a 
>>> hard time imagining that they would be far enough off to cause issues or 
>>> clearance problems like you're asking about.  
>>>
>>> I believe that our fearless list moderator, Mr. Cyclofiend Jim, runs a 
>>> Phil hub on the back of his QB, so he might be a good guy to ask.  
>>>
>>> -Jeremy
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 4:25:40 AM UTC-8, Wally Estrella 
>>> wrote:

 HI Ted:

 the chainline on the QB is 42, from what I've read, the chain line on a 
 PW freewheel track hub is 46.  So, yeah, I guess that's what I'm 
 confusingly asking.  Would there be any clearance issues w/ a 46 chain 
 line 
 and going up larger on either the chain ring or cog as? Sorry, just 
 overthinking the simplicity of it. Sounds like it'll work just fine, so 
 I'll just do it.

 Thanks!








 On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 9:33:19 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> Hey Wally,
>
> Im not clear on what you are concerned about, and my bike is a SO 
> instead of a QB, but I've got a 44t ring at ~42mm chain line on a short 
> (107?) PW bottom bracket. No problem with clearance, if that helps at all.
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 11:24:21 AM UTC-8, Wally Estrella 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> I've seen numerous pictures of QBs with Phil Wood hubs on them, but 
>> can't recall if it was fixed or freewheel.  From what I understand the 
>> fixed side of the PW track hub is 42.  The freewheel hub is 46.
>>
>> Is 46 chainline on a QB an issue from dropout to BB/chain stay 
>> clearances?  I'm using a single ring up front @ 40t ring and thinking of 
>> upping it to a 44 w/ a new PW freewheel on the rear.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wally
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] S24O Report: Avoiding the Toilet-Eating-Bog by Bikepacking to Another

[Deacon Patrick]

Andrew, it's an iPhone whatever, three years old or so. Joby's Gorillapod 
and their iPhone app to set the timer.

Jay, och! It's worse than that. Far harder to leave. I had begun replacing 
the plastic plumbing with copper when the brain injury hit, so knew this 
day was coming. But because of the brain injury I can't do the work. So I 
focus on what I can do.
>
>
Ed, rear shifter is a Silver SOS thumb shifter, front shifter is my thumb 
and forefinger (I removed the front derailure and ride with a narrow wide 
middle ring, only shifting to my granny when doing serious climbing with a 
load, my outer ring is my rock guard).

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

[Matt B.]

Not sure if you're using fenders already but they help a lot.  A good 
mudflap on the front that is 4-5" wide and hangs within 2" of the ground 
helps immensely. You can't really find mudflaps wide/long enough on 
off-the-shelf fenders so they usually have to be homemade with a rubber 
sheet or something similar like leather or plastic. Attachment can be as 
easy as a couple of holes and a zip-tie.


On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 10:55:35 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> I recently relocated due to work and now do the majority of my riding by 
> the beach.  I love the natural beauty of sand, surf, ospreys, and pelicans 
> but hate what the sand is doing to my gears.  A gritty crust rapidly 
> develops on my cassette and chain.  I have been cleaning the chain weekly 
> and wiping the bike down daily.  Any advice from beach riders as to what I 
> should be doing to maintain the bike?
>

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[RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

[Les Lammers]

+1 on the wax lube. :-)

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 11:20:43 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:

> I don't ride the beach, but rI ride a lot of wet grit.  I use Wippermann 
> stainless chains and wax lube (Molten Speed Wax, and extend it with White 
> Lightning Clean Ride) - nothing sticks to it.  
> Before I tried the molten wax (6000 mi now), I was using just bottled wax 
> lubes like Clean Ride, and they rinse off very nicely with a hose, let it 
> dry, and re-apply.  
>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:55:35 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>
>> I recently relocated due to work and now do the majority of my riding by 
>> the beach.  I love the natural beauty of sand, surf, ospreys, and pelicans 
>> but hate what the sand is doing to my gears.  A gritty crust rapidly 
>> develops on my cassette and chain.  I have been cleaning the chain weekly 
>> and wiping the bike down daily.  Any advice from beach riders as to what I 
>> should be doing to maintain the bike?
>>
>

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