[RBW] Re: FS: Dos Enos 16/18, Carradice, Wool

[Jonathan D.]

Dos Enos Sold.

Everything else is still available.  

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> Also for sale. Carradice Classic Saddlebag Rack For $35 shipped. 
>
> 3 large Icebreaker sweatshirts. $40 shipped for the two with hoods and $35 
> shipped without. 
>
> Ibex Orange Bike Jersey. XL $50 shipped 
>
>
> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 10:17:28 PM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote: 
> > I am selling several items that I think might be of interest on the 
> list. If a clothing item is of interest let me know. I have a couple of 
> jackets listed as well. Please feel free to ask questions and for more 
> details. 
> > 
> > White Industries 2 speed freewheel (DOS ENO 16t/18t) $65 shipped 
> > 
> > Carradice bike bureau single pannier - $100 shipped.I like this bag but 
> now just use the Sackville Saddlebag. 
> > 
> > Showers Pass Transit Backback. $130 shipped 
> > 
> > Randijo XL Hat $40 shipped 
> > 
> > Ibex Blue Shak Vest Large$50 
> > Shipped 
> > 
> > Icebreaker Sierra Hoody Plus XL. Has a softshell hood and protection. 
> Great wool combo piece. Retailed at $250. $85 shipped. 
> > 
> > Arcteryx Jacket. Plenty of life in this one. Want it to be used. 
> > 
> > Icebreaker size large sweat shirts. Let me know if you any interest. 
> I’ll try to list out the items soon but I have a lot of wool items. 
> > 
> > For Sale Jonathan: 
> > https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5ON9t3sbptS 
>

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[RBW] FS: Medium MUSA Knickers - Black

[Michael Ullmer]

I've got a pair of black MUSA knickers in medium. These are in great shape 
with no rips/holes. I just installed some new elastic and buckle in the 
waist.

$40 shipped CONUS

PM off-list, thanks!

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[RBW] FS: Cranksets, pedals, shifters, derailleur, brakes

[Michael Ullmer]

Cross-post from i-BOB, lots of stuff for sale.

Most of these are take-offs from my spring break projects, others were just 
kicking around the parts bin for way too long. My bike budget is in the red 
at the moment, I need to dig myself out :-)

1) Shimano FC-6206 Deore XT 175mm 110/74 Triple Cranks, 46/30 Willow Rings, 
Shimano Cartridge BB - $85 shipped CONUS
--This is a great set of cranks I had on my rando frame. The crank arms are 
elegant, my favorite of the vintage Shimano. They're set up a double, but 
can also be triple. The willow rings have a few hundred miles on them, the 
teeth are in great shape. Comes with a 121mm Shimano Cartridge BB (a couple 
hundred miles on this one).

2) Shimano FC-MT60 Deore 175mm 110/74 Triple Cranks, 49/37/25 Willow Rings, 
Shimano Cartridge BB - $85 shipped CONUS
--This set came off of my all-road Fitz. Crank arms are in good shape, some 
of the shine still left. The Willow rings have a few hundred miles on the, 
teeth still in great shape. Comes with a 121mm Shimano Cartridge BB (a few 
hundred miles on this one).

3) Shimano FC-M550  Deore LX 175mm 110/74 Triple Cranks - $25 shipped CONUS
--I had these on my Cetma cargo bike, but ended up switching to a tandem 
Sugino crankset when I put a Stokemonkey Assist on it. The finish on these 
is a little dull and the Deore LX logo is rubbing off. I might have some 
rings I can throw in for cheap if you need.

4) 8-speed Shimano Bar End Shifters - $35 shipped CONUS
---I tried these only briefly, but just like suntour barcons better. All 
the clicks are there, a few scuffs on these

5) Shimano PD-A520 SPD Pedals - $30 shipped CONUS
--I switched to flat pedals on the bike these were on. Plenty scuffed up, 
but still spin smooth.

6) Shimano Tiagra RD-4601 Long Cage 10-speed - $30 shipped CONUS
--I had this on my rando, but I switched to SRAM 10-speed. This one's 
pretty clean and shiny.

7) Controltech Bar Ends - $12 shipped CONUS
--These were an impulse buy at the LBS to see if I like bar ends on my 
mountain bike. Turns out I don't.

8) Avid BB7 MTN Calipers, Tektro Long Pull Road Levers, Avid Long Pull flat 
bar levers - $60 shipped CONUS
--I switched to TRP short-pull calipers on my all-road Fitz and now have 
these as extra. The calipers don't have mounting posts or bolts. The Tektro 
road levers are in great shape, they were new when I got them. The Avid 
flat bar levers show some wear, but overall in fine shape.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SFaslvVZqpDcrBy22

PM off-list, thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS(probably) 50cm Rivendell Cheviot - $2000 shipped

[Ian A]

An inquiry stemming from curiosity and not looking to buy at this time, but 
what was the height of the intended rider?

Thank you
IanA

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 10:56:03 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Starting it at $2000
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/14767344@N07/33731902494/in/dateposted-public/
>
> I'd rather not ship it with the basket since it takes up so much room but 
> I suppose you can have it.
>
> The rack is a modified VO one and has strut for a light
>
> Nitto Pearl 9 stem
> North Road bars
> 3x8 Sugino crankset
> Shimano Sora FD
> Shimano Altus RD
> Soma GR tires I think
> Velocity hubs, Atlas rims
> Seat not included or will be a B67.
>
> Pedals are some sort of silver platforms, not the MKS shown
>
> Price is shipped. Make an offer.
>

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[RBW] How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Philip Williamson]

Knobbies seem designed to shoot gravel through the fenders. I wouldn’t do it. 
Slicks with Ron’s tire wiper idea has merit. That I may do.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[John Hawrylak]

Tony, what size Berthoud fenders are you using?

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:09:37 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

> I can't answer for honjo's, but berthoud stainless are rock solid and 
> quiet for me over 2+ years of use.  I'm sure your off-road use will stress 
> any fender set up. But the difference between SKS and Berthoud was night 
> and day for me.

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[RBW] Re: 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[John G.]

Congrats, Bill, and thank you for the write-up. It provided some much 
needed inspiration before I take on my first 200K brevet this weekend. 
Debating whether I ride my Atlantis (sturdy and hefty but supremely 
comfortable), my Lightning Bolt (probably perfect, but perhaps overkill), 
or my Mercian Superlight (my comfy go fast).

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:30:15 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Bob K asked for the route:
>
> Link to Sky Londa 300k on RideWithGPS 
> 
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-7, Bob K. wrote:
>>
>> Nice, Bill! Hoping to do my first 200K this year on my revamped ‘09 
>> orange Sam. Thanks for the additional inspiration! Have a link to the route 
>> or gps track? I’m always curious how the rides out west compare to the 
>> rollers in MD. 
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[Belopsky]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/IrARRNLwRugX7cSI2

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:28:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> You changed a few things on the one you are selling on ebay?  The one 
> that's listed as 'used less than 10 miles'?  Have you elected to keep it?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:52:36 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Nice.
>> I'll take a new photo of mine today. I changed a few things.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I have the hammered Honjos on my Cheviot.  Don’t do much off-roading but the 
pieces of grit and small pebbles from the road ping all over the metal. Frankly 
I find it annoying 

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[RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick:

I had a set of Honjo fluted fenders.  Although they were extremely light 
weight and beautiful, I can personally attest they were neither quiet nor 
hearty.  The first time a pebble rattled through one of the fenders, it 
sounded like the derailleur was eating itself.  I ride my bikes hard in all 
types of weather.  After two years, the bolt holding the front fender to 
the frame attachment rotted through the thin aluminum.  From the type of 
riding you do as gleaned from your posts, Honjos probably are not a good 
choice for you.

Ann

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: BQ 55-61

[Joe Bunik]

Only 58-59-60 remain, $20 shipped. Thanks
=- Joe

On 4/9/18, Joe Bunik  wrote:
> Hi gang
>
> I've got an excess stack of duplicate BQ issues, numbers
> 55-56-57-58-59-60-61, all in very good shape. $5/per + actual
> shipping, let me know which issues you are interested in.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
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[RBW] Re: 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Bill Lindsay]

Bob K asked for the route:

Link to Sky Londa 300k on RideWithGPS 




On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-7, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Nice, Bill! Hoping to do my first 200K this year on my revamped ‘09 orange 
> Sam. Thanks for the additional inspiration! Have a link to the route or gps 
> track? I’m always curious how the rides out west compare to the rollers in 
> MD. 
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Bob K.]

Nice, Bill! Hoping to do my first 200K this year on my revamped ‘09 orange Sam. 
Thanks for the additional inspiration! Have a link to the route or gps track? 
I’m always curious how the rides out west compare to the rollers in MD.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Tony DeFilippo]

I think your ride reporting is improving and it was already great.  I'm ready 
to go sign up for a 200k!

When this rando series is complete you should do a retrospective all the way 
back to your 200x10 self challenge last summer.

Tony

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[RBW] Re: 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Bill Lindsay]

I think everybody is different on how they deal with long days on the bike. 
Some people just get grumpy and unhappy after a few hours, and that's no 
fun.  Your bike has to be comfortable.  I've had long days where my neck or 
shoulders or my tush start to hurt, and that can make things no-fun, and it 
just seems stupid to be going on such a long ride. You also don't 
necessarily have to pile on monster mileage to prepare. The longest ride I 
did on the roll up to this 300k was 60 miles. I do a bunch of climbing 
though. 

The thing I didn't mention in my write up was that several of the riders 
and coaches associated with the high school mountain bike team I help coach 
were all live-following me and their encouragement texts showed up on my 
GPS screen.  That was pretty fun on a day where I was riding solo for 13 
hours straight.  

BL in EC

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:36:04 PM UTC-7, Austin B. wrote:
>
> Terrific write up, Bill--thanks for sharing!
>
> I've casually toyed with the idea of doing a 200k brevet (I've never done 
> one) but have it built in my mind as this grueling 
> against-all-odds-it's-me-versus-everything experience. But yours picks up 
> on the scenery and photos and the experience and enjoyment of the ride 
> (despite obvious setbacks with a flat and a loose fender). Not awful, 
> challenging yes, brutal at times, but not horrible. I just may yet do it. 
>
> There's a 100-miler coming up with my riding club later this month which, 
> if I do it, I may have to put my Sam back in Road Mode for it. 
>
> Good luck with your 400k!
>
> Austin Bishop
> Sykesville, MD
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[RBW] 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic, Bill! Well done, and a tip a’ me plaid cycling tammy to you!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Austin B.]

Terrific write up, Bill--thanks for sharing!

I've casually toyed with the idea of doing a 200k brevet (I've never done 
one) but have it built in my mind as this grueling 
against-all-odds-it's-me-versus-everything experience. But yours picks up 
on the scenery and photos and the experience and enjoyment of the ride 
(despite obvious setbacks with a flat and a loose fender). Not awful, 
challenging yes, brutal at times, but not horrible. I just may yet do it. 

There's a 100-miler coming up with my riding club later this month which, 
if I do it, I may have to put my Sam back in Road Mode for it. 

Good luck with your 400k!

Austin Bishop
Sykesville, MD

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[Bill Lindsay]

You changed a few things on the one you are selling on ebay?  The one 
that's listed as 'used less than 10 miles'?  Have you elected to keep it?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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> Nice.
> I'll take a new photo of mine today. I changed a few things.
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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[William R.]

Edwin: you won’t regret it. The Snoq’s are great on my Joe. Wear em out while 
we wait for this new size!

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Edwin W]

And I JUST got a pair of Snoqualmie pass for my Joe Appa. Well, I guess 
I'll just have to ride them for a few thousand miles and see how they do 
before I upgrade.

Edwin

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:14:34 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post 
> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting 
> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?   
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

[jandrews]

Similarly I called Riv Bike too to discuss sizing.  I would like to 
purchase a MIT Atlantis as a dedicated tourer and keep my SH in dirt mode.  
I was thinking I'd be somewhere between the new 56cm and the 59cm...but was 
told that I'd be on a 53cm!  My pbh is 84.5 and I find that very surprising.
I ride a 56cm SH and a 58cm Simpleoneboth purchased new from Riv.
I was sort of holding out hope that I would be recommended a 59cm since I'm 
so invested in 700c...but no.
However, it does seem like I could be sized on a 55cm Appaloosa which runs 
700c, so I could go that route and save $100 on the frame...if I really 
want to keep using 700c.
FYI, I know I fit (Barely) the previous gen. 58cm Atlantis (which is 700c)

Decisions decisions


On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:30:15 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I’m a 87. I called riv, talked to Rich, then ordered the 56 upon their 
> recommendation.   I’ve already got an Atlantis and I’m excited to try it in 
> 650B.  I’ll likely keep both. 
>
> Matt B 
> Oswego, IL

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

[Matt Beecher]

I’m a 87. I called riv, talked to Rich, then ordered the 56 upon their 
recommendation.   I’ve already got an Atlantis and I’m excited to try it in 
650B.  I’ll likely keep both. 

Matt B
Oswego, IL

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[RBW] FS: BQ 55-61

[Joe Bunik]

Hi gang

I've got an excess stack of duplicate BQ issues, numbers
55-56-57-58-59-60-61, all in very good shape. $5/per + actual
shipping, let me know which issues you are interested in.

Thanks
Joe

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[RBW] 300k ride report: Samuel Hillborne still rules

[Bill Lindsay]

This past weekend I rode the Sky Londa 300k brevet with Santa Cruz 
Randonneurs.  I rode my 56cm, single top tube, cantilever-brake, orange 
Samuel Hillborne.  Executive summary: the ride went great.  The bike did 
perfectly.  I'm hoping to do my 400k in two weeks.  

Bike details: I ran 700x35 Compass Bon Jon Pass (standard) tires.  HED 
Belgium wheels.  SP dynamo.  1x9 drivetrain 42x(11-32).  Loyal designs 
handlebar bag.  VO fenders.  

The ride started at 6:00AM Saturday morning at the Santa Cruz Lighthouse.  
I set my alarm for 2:45, and started driving at 3:40.  I parked near the 
finish and rode to the start, just on time.  It was raining quite hard, 
which discouraged some starters apparently, as there were only 8 of us at 
the start. Fortunately it was not cold all day. Santa Cruz Randonneurs is a 
small but prestigious chapter of RUSA; prestigious because they are led by 
RUSA #7 Bill Bryant and RUSA #8 Lois Springstein, both of whom having 
served as RUSA president (I'm #6551).  I had done a version of this course 
in 15 hours on the dot a few years ago, and I had the goal to cut a 
significant amount off that time.  Despite the heavy rain I was determined 
to settle into a brisk but sustainable pace.  I figured out pretty quickly 
that the other 7 riders were content to take a more slow-and-steady 
approach, so I went out alone off the front.  The rain and wind were both 
pretty severe.  Big, heavy raindrops just soaked everything, and the 
headwind was as strong as locals know to expect from the coast.  The course 
followed the course North as the skies started to get lighter.  The first 
welcome sidetrack off of coastal Hwy 1 went along Gazos Creek Road.  A tiny 
narrow canyon with a very vigorously flowing creek.  The rain began to let 
up as I entered the canyon, and I was completely alone.  No cars or people 
at all.  It was beautiful, and I stopped for a selfie:

Flickr Link to Gazos Creek Selfie 


I started riding again but was distracted by how beautiful everything 
wasso much so that I didn't notice the fallen tree in the road.  I saw 
it at the last moment but still crashed into it.  It wasn't a bad crash but 
a branch whacked my chin pretty good, and I was bleeding.  I was mostly 
thankful that nobody saw me, because it was an embarrassing move, like 
hitting a parked car or something.  I took inventory and meekly continued.  
The first control was in the tiny town of Pescadero (mile 34).  I grabbed a 
coffee at the cafe, which has a couple character pieces that remind me of 
Riv whenever I'm there: they sell and play vinyl records, and they have a 
hat-rack stocked with vintage baseball gloves for sale.  It's a cute spot.  

Flickr Link to Pescadero Control 


At a 'control' you have to prove you were there, on time, so you typically 
get a printed receipt.  This cafe didn't print receipts so we hand-wrote 
one on a business card.  While we were figuring that out two other Randos 
rolled up, both on traditional road bikes.  One was a titanium Seven, and 
the other was a steel SOMA.  We said hello, but I was soon on my way.  It 
was still raining but very lightly.  The course returned to Hwy 1 and 
continued North briefly before turning back inland for the first 
siginificant climb into the redwoods.  At the end of Purisma Creek Road 
there was an "info control" (mile 51).  The club posted a plastic sign high 
on a post with "SCR" on the top line and a three digit code on the bottom 
line.  You have to find the sign and write the code on your brevet card to 
prove you were there.  I moved on and finished the climb and had a very fun 
descent back to Hwy 1 and hit the nothernmost point of the route at the 
"Easy Mart" in Half Moon Bay (mile 64).  At this point I was feeling 
great.  This was the farthest North I'd be.  This was the farthest from my 
car I would be.  The wind would blow me to the south for the rest of the 
day.  I knew this was going to be totally do-able.  

Flickr Link to the Easy Mart 


Southbound AT SPEED was really fun. Cruising along easily at ~21mph was 
pretty great.  The Bon Jon Pass tires at ~45psi were just singing.  At mile 
75 I turned back inland on La Honda Road for the biggest climb of the day, 
up to Sky Londa.  In the flatter lower section of the climb, a ladybug 
landed on my GPS and rode along for the entire climb.  Freeloader!  
Stowaway!

Link to Instagram movie of ladybug (hopefully) 


My 1x9 drivetrain did fantastic all day.  I had everything I needed, 
nothing I didn't, and the steps between never struck me as too large.  If 
you asked me to throw away one of the 9 gears, I would have ditched the 
11.  The grades only got over 10% for brief periods so my 36" low gear was 
plenty low enough. I never wanted f

[RBW] Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Deacon Patrick]

Comment from Jan (I presume, Compass, technically) says late spring/eary summer 
release. Very tempting. Given how much better my Quickbeam rides trails with 
compass knobbies vs same or even a bet wider slicks, I’ll likely hold out for a 
50-55 knobbie and enjoy my 2.1” Thunderburt liteskins for now on me 
Hunqapillar. Still. Tempting. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[William R.]

Very interesting indeed Bill! That Instagram post wasn’t dated April 1? I 
wonder if these will fit on my Appaloosa. If my nominal 44mm Snoqualmie Pass 
tires measure actual width of 41mm, will the new 55s measure 50-51mm on the 
same rims (Atlas). I will be eager to find out. As it is, 53s (Maxxis Torch) 
and 54s (Thunderburts) easily fit on the Joe, but Big One’s at 60mm certainly 
did not. 55mm Compass may be the bees knees. 

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[lconley]

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:53:20 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Question - how comfortable are those levers from the drops?
>

Right now the levers are hard to reach from the drops. I am going to lower 
the levers some. The hood levers seem a little narrow compared to the 
Tektro TRDs that I am used to, but I spend mist of my time on the upper 
bends. I do like the absence of housing under the tape. 

I don't spend a lot of time on the drops, mostly going downhill. I just 
don't feel comfortable descending while upright.

Laing

 

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[Belopsky]

Question - how comfortable are those levers from the drops?

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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[Belopsky]

Nice.
I'll take a new photo of mine today. I changed a few things.

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[RBW] WTB: Hub Area racks

[Reid Echols]

Hi folks, after finally getting my Sam built into it's current "lightweight" 
rando-type setup, I'd like to pick up a hub area rack to hang my sackville 
mini-panniers (I forget what they're actually called; I think they were 
originally handlebar bags?) on. Anyone have one they're not using? 

I've got a few things for trade, too; Selle Anatomica saddle, various Nitto 
stems and bars, Carradice bags, Bruce Gordon rock n roads (700c, black), etc. 
Let me know if you're looking for anything in particular. 

Thanks, 
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Re: [RBW] Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I avoided social media for years and then realized I could set it up to 
reflect my hobbies.  My Instagram account is 100% bike stuff, my Twitter 
account is 100% news, etc...   It's a great way to receive instant 
newssuch as these tires!



On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:25:38 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting that. Funny, I write resumes for a lot of marketing 
> execs, and I've had to learn about social media, all the while disdaining 
> to use the things. 
>
> I'll be interested to learn how wide these are in real life.
>
> Patrick Moore, whose bike has room for 60s and fenders, in ABQ, NM
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio <
> web...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Some folks will be measuring chainstay and fork crown clearances.
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis ~ 1999

[frankie garcia]

Sim works makes a tire called the “homage” in 700c options. but as far as I 
know Michelin nor any other company makes a 26 inch tire in this color anymore. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Minh  wrote:
> 
> i also have a set of these michelin wildgrippers--on my MTB from the late 
> 90's.  though mine are nearing 20 years old so not sure how well they ride, 
> its been a few years.   are michelin still making these or are all these pics 
> NOS?   
> 
> what other options are out there for celeste green tires?  for some reason i 
> never thought to match these to an atlantis, looks good but almost too 
> matchey-matchey :)
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[RBW] Re: Something Simple This Way Comes...

[RichS]

Beeeutifull!!! All that dark green and black with the white graphics is so 
sharp. Well done and congratulations!

Regards,
Richard

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:11:17 AM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> Thanks all -- it really is a fun bike.  Sometimes it's just nice not to 
> change gears and focus on what you can do with what you've got.  Kind of 
> freeing.  I'll stick with this gearing for a while and see what happens.  I 
> will probably add a tooth or two to the chainring eventually, but whatever 
> - it's all good.
>
> Other thoughts:
>
>- I continue to like the inverted Albatross bars.  I will add another 
>layer of leather grip wrap, not because of vibration or soreness, but 
>because the diameter with 1 layer just feels too small to me.
>- Confirmed on my ride yesterday that moving up into the curves on the 
>inverted Albatross is really comfortable.  I didn't do it that often; but, 
>when I did, just to change things up, or esp. to climb, it felt natural 
> and 
>provided comfortable leverage when pumping up hills.  And it looks cool :)
>- The 42mm Continental Contact tires ('basketball tires') are actually 
>quite nice.  This is my first set.  Felt reasonably fast, and at ~42lbs 
>pressure absorbed vibrations, bumps, and wooden bridge irregularities very 
>well.  Noiseless, too.
>- The Brooks B17 Imperial (has the central cutout) is such a great 
>saddle.  I have one on my Sam and love it.  Just the right amt of support, 
>enables moving around easily, and just enough give without needing 
>springs.  I really like it over the regular B17 or the Flyer.
>
>
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for posting that. Funny, I write resumes for a lot of marketing
execs, and I've had to learn about social media, all the while disdaining
to use the things.

I'll be interested to learn how wide these are in real life.

Patrick Moore, whose bike has room for 60s and fenders, in ABQ, NM

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> Some folks will be measuring chainstay and fork crown clearances.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[lconley]

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-4, Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
> Looks great, like when there is a cohesive theme to a bike.  Nice mix of 
> old and new, good color match.  Look like the Compass Snoqualmie Pass 
> tires? I bet the ride is superb.
>
> Barlow Pass tires and yes it rides beautifully. I have Snoqualmie Pass 
>> tires on the Sam. May have to swap them someday - appears to be plenty of 
>> room.
>>
>
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[RBW] FS: 59 Clem H - Grilver

[tc]

BUMP.  $1400 shipped CONUS. 

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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[lconley]

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:44:56 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Nice path racer. I myself would position the brake levers lower down, but 
> it would be a shame to wreck that pretty tape job.
>
>>
>>  
>> The bars are wrapped from the middle and ends to the levers, might not be 
>> that hard to reposition the levers after all.
>>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS 55cm Sam Hillborne

[John W]

Nice bike. If it had cantilevers I'd snatch it up myself. (I'm looking for 
this size, but my wife won't let me buy new yet!) Good luck with the 
sale.

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 6:36:02 PM UTC-4, Mike OShea wrote:
>
> Selling my Blue Rivendell Sam Hillborne, 55 cm. In very good condition. 
> Purchased from Rivendell 2015, it has 733 miles. Used only once in last 
> year hence reason for selling. Stock build (no pedals) except changed 
> handlebar to a drop bar (Technonics). WTB Saddle. Original Albatros cockpit 
> included (minus cables). Also included with sale, front and rear Nitto 
> Racks. (cost over $300.00) The only thing that needs attention is my poorly 
> taped drop bars and grips. Bike has minor scrapes and scratches, some 
> missing paint at dropouts. Bike never crashed or dropped. Selling for less 
> than half price. $1750.00, plus $125.00 shipping lower 48. Will use Bike 
> Flights. Paypal preferred. Located in Bozeman, Montana.
>
> See link for more pics:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/0Jvp12s2CnuurO3y1
>
>
> 
>
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[RBW] Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio]

Some folks will be measuring chainstay and fork crown clearances. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Patrick Moore]

Well, it seems you do miss some things when you forgo social media. I'll be
interested when a description (and a photo! I wonder if it will seem as
pneumatic as the Rat Trap Pass?) appears on more retrograde platforms.

Jan mentioned a tire like this some time ago, but when I inquired late last
year about any forthcoming >=50 mm Compass tire, I got no response, so I
went ahead and bought some Big Ones. I'd almost be disappointed, were the
Big Ones not so delightful (one rolldown test showed the BOs faster than
the road tires tested, and this with tubes). But I'd be interested to learn
more about the Compass 29er tire

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:40 AM, John Phillips  wrote:

> 700 x 55 Compass tires?!?! Oh my Lord, heaven on earth!
>
> Maybe 700 x 55mm Compass knobbies are in the works?
>
> John
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post
>> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting
>> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito Ca
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[Ken Yokanovich]

Looks great, like when there is a cohesive theme to a bike.  Nice mix of 
old and new, good color match.  Look like the Compass Snoqualmie Pass 
tires? I bet the ride is superb.

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 8:31:56 AM UTC-5, lconley wrote:
>
> I decided, after the first ride, that the saddle and pedals were too 
> narrow. So I went big and ordered some blue Catalyst pedals and installed 
> one of my Brooks B68 saddles from the stash. After a mile or so of trying 
> to position my feet "correctly" on the Catalyst pedals, I decided to quit 
> thinking about it and let my feet do their thing and find their own 
> position. Ended up a little forward of my normal position on platform 
> pedals, but nowhere near the recommended position. I have short (for six 
> foot tall), very wide (8-1/2 ) feet and extremely high arches, one of 
> the reasons that I do not use clipless - nobody makes a shoe that fits 
> well. The pedals and saddle made a huge difference, now the bike disappears 
> beneath me, except for the lever position on the handle bars, maybe a 
> little too high - I'll save that for when I need to change the handlebar 
> tape (not anxious to try the harlequin wrap again). I really like single 
> speeds, of course, I do live in Florida.
>
> Frame: Rivendell Frank Jones SR - 57 cm Blue
> Wheels: Built by me. 36 spoke, NOS Campagnolo Record Hi-Lo hubset, 
> Euro-Asian track axle conversion, VO polished RAID rims, 700c 22 mm, 
> Wheelsmith DB SS spokes, 
>   Compass 38mm Batlow Pass TC Extralight Tan tires, Schwalbe Superlight 
> tubes
> Drivetrain: Single Speed, 45 x 18
>Crank: NOS Spidel 170 mm, NOS Sugino Mighty Comp drillium chainring, 
> Compass crank bolts, Shimano sealed BB
>Freewheel: White Industries
>Pedals: Catalyst, blue
> Brakes: Tektro R559, Gran Compe non-aero levers, VO braided housing
> Handlebars: Nitto Model 176, 440 mm, 26.0, Two tone blue harlequin pattern 
> - Newbaums tape
> Stem: Nitto lugged, 100 mm
> Seat Post: Nitto Lugged 27.2
> Saddle: Brooks B68, black
> Other: VO Retro water bottle cage
>
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 04/09/2018 12:55 AM, Surlyprof wrote:
When I acquired my Hillborne, it had Honjo Hammered fenders.  I found 
them to be very sturdy and beautiful but the noise drove me batty.


What kind of noise was that?  Rattling from a loose installation, or the 
sound of dirt and gravel hitting the inside of the fender?



They didn't have enough clearance for my Smart Sam knobbies but looked 
sharp with Barlow Pass ELs.  I ended up giving them to Evan E. on the 
list.  He used them to beautify one of his classic bikes.  I replaced 
them with a pair of SKS plastics Riv sold.  Not as pretty but also not 
as loud on all the gravel trails I need to ride.





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Re: [RBW] Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[Patrick Moore]

Nice path racer. I myself would position the brake levers lower down, but
it would be a shame to wreck that pretty tape job.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:31 AM, lconley  wrote:

> I decided, after the first ride, that the saddle and pedals were too
> narrow. So I went big and ordered some blue Catalyst pedals and installed
> one of my Brooks B68 saddles from the stash. After a mile or so of trying
> to position my feet "correctly" on the Catalyst pedals, I decided to quit
> thinking about it and let my feet do their thing and find their own
> position. Ended up a little forward of my normal position on platform
> pedals, but nowhere near the recommended position. I have short (for six
> foot tall), very wide (8-1/2 ) feet and extremely high arches, one of
> the reasons that I do not use clipless - nobody makes a shoe that fits
> well. The pedals and saddle made a huge difference, now the bike disappears
> beneath me, except for the lever position on the handle bars, maybe a
> little too high - I'll save that for when I need to change the handlebar
> tape (not anxious to try the harlequin wrap again). I really like single
> speeds, of course, I do live in Florida.
>
> Frame: Rivendell Frank Jones SR - 57 cm Blue
> Wheels: Built by me. 36 spoke, NOS Campagnolo Record Hi-Lo hubset,
> Euro-Asian track axle conversion, VO polished RAID rims, 700c 22 mm,
> Wheelsmith DB SS spokes,
>   Compass 38mm Batlow Pass TC Extralight Tan tires, Schwalbe Superlight
> tubes
> Drivetrain: Single Speed, 45 x 18
>Crank: NOS Spidel 170 mm, NOS Sugino Mighty Comp drillium chainring,
> Compass crank bolts, Shimano sealed BB
>Freewheel: White Industries
>Pedals: Catalyst, blue
> Brakes: Tektro R559, Gran Compe non-aero levers, VO braided housing
> Handlebars: Nitto Model 176, 440 mm, 26.0, Two tone blue harlequin pattern
> - Newbaums tape
> Stem: Nitto lugged, 100 mm
> Seat Post: Nitto Lugged 27.2
> Saddle: Brooks B68, black
> Other: VO Retro water bottle cage
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Patrick Moore]

That's remarkable. Now, my Honjos were the "hammered" type; I wonder if
that made them more brittle, or if that's not the cause, at any rate, more
prone to cracking?

Good to know about compound curves; I hope eventually to replace the
Berthouds on one of my Rivs (which I slightly marred in a clumsy first
attempt at shaping to fit between narrow stays and fork), and given your
comment, I may try to snap up any FS Honjos I see on-list. The marring is
minor enough that I won't swap unless I see a good deal, though.)

And, I like your application of Tire Savers to the safety function. I have
a stash of those things and I'll consider adding them if and when I do swap
fenders.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> I'm going to take exception with Patrick, in that, you'll never crack any
> fender unless you install it with external residual stress (and yes, he
> admitted that).
> I have one set of Honjos that has been on two bikes, for many, many
> thousands of miles - wrecked on the 1st bike, reshaped the S-shaped front
> fender to install them on the second bike.
>


> Honjos take very well to shaping compound curves.  Spread them every inch
> or so to tighten the radius, squeeze, etc.to increase the radius.
>
> 
>
> I don't hesitate to ride the bike in slop, but on my Compass slicks, and
> the reason I don't care about the slop is I use tire wipers where most put
> their mud guards.  They reject everything from the fenders and scrape
> occasional mud from the tires, preventing the fenders from plugging.  Zero
> noise on gravel roads.  That said, not intended for riding in mud, but
> dealing with intermittent mud patches
>
>  
>
> Jan didn't like this, but for Many (thousand) miles, it works fine.  Have
> flipped the front scraper backwards, and it simply deflects out of the
> way.  It rejects rocks, sticks, chert and most of the mud from entering the
> fender.
>
> I don't think I'd use any fenders with knobbies.  I think I'd go with
> mountain bike type mudguards for knobbies.
>
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[RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[John Phillips]

700 x 55 Compass tires?!?! Oh my Lord, heaven on earth!

Maybe 700 x 55mm Compass knobbies are in the works?

John

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post 
> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting 
> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?   
>
> Bill Lindsay 
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[RBW] Re: Cockpit Items - For Sale

[Mat Grewe]

Everything is sold folks.  Thanks so much.

On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 10:26:18 AM UTC-5, Mat Grewe wrote:
>
> Sale pending on the bar end shifter pods.
>
> On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 12:51:45 PM UTC-5, Mat Grewe wrote:
>>
>> Just the bar end pods are still available.  Everything else has been sold.
>>
>>- Silver bar end shifter PODS ONLY - Lightly used - $25
>>
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[RBW] Frank Jones SR build and second ride

[lconley]

I decided, after the first ride, that the saddle and pedals were too 
narrow. So I went big and ordered some blue Catalyst pedals and installed 
one of my Brooks B68 saddles from the stash. After a mile or so of trying 
to position my feet "correctly" on the Catalyst pedals, I decided to quit 
thinking about it and let my feet do their thing and find their own 
position. Ended up a little forward of my normal position on platform 
pedals, but nowhere near the recommended position. I have short (for six 
foot tall), very wide (8-1/2 ) feet and extremely high arches, one of 
the reasons that I do not use clipless - nobody makes a shoe that fits 
well. The pedals and saddle made a huge difference, now the bike disappears 
beneath me, except for the lever position on the handle bars, maybe a 
little too high - I'll save that for when I need to change the handlebar 
tape (not anxious to try the harlequin wrap again). I really like single 
speeds, of course, I do live in Florida.

Frame: Rivendell Frank Jones SR - 57 cm Blue
Wheels: Built by me. 36 spoke, NOS Campagnolo Record Hi-Lo hubset, 
Euro-Asian track axle conversion, VO polished RAID rims, 700c 22 mm, 
Wheelsmith DB SS spokes, 
  Compass 38mm Batlow Pass TC Extralight Tan tires, Schwalbe Superlight 
tubes
Drivetrain: Single Speed, 45 x 18
   Crank: NOS Spidel 170 mm, NOS Sugino Mighty Comp drillium chainring, 
Compass crank bolts, Shimano sealed BB
   Freewheel: White Industries
   Pedals: Catalyst, blue
Brakes: Tektro R559, Gran Compe non-aero levers, VO braided housing
Handlebars: Nitto Model 176, 440 mm, 26.0, Two tone blue harlequin pattern 
- Newbaums tape
Stem: Nitto lugged, 100 mm
Seat Post: Nitto Lugged 27.2
Saddle: Brooks B68, black
Other: VO Retro water bottle cage



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[RBW] Re: FS 55cm Sam Hillborne

[Mike OShea]

Matt: The saddle is new, I never used it. I was using a Ergon saddle witch 
is now on my mountain bike.

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 4:36:02 PM UTC-6, Mike OShea wrote:
>
> Selling my Blue Rivendell Sam Hillborne, 55 cm. In very good condition. 
> Purchased from Rivendell 2015, it has 733 miles. Used only once in last 
> year hence reason for selling. Stock build (no pedals) except changed 
> handlebar to a drop bar (Technonics). WTB Saddle. Original Albatros cockpit 
> included (minus cables). Also included with sale, front and rear Nitto 
> Racks. (cost over $300.00) The only thing that needs attention is my poorly 
> taped drop bars and grips. Bike has minor scrapes and scratches, some 
> missing paint at dropouts. Bike never crashed or dropped. Selling for less 
> than half price. $1750.00, plus $125.00 shipping lower 48. Will use Bike 
> Flights. Paypal preferred. Located in Bozeman, Montana.
>
> See link for more pics:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/0Jvp12s2CnuurO3y1
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Dos Enos 16/18, Carradice, Wool

[Jonathan D.]

Also for sale. Carradice Classic Saddlebag Rack For $35 shipped. 

3 large Icebreaker sweatshirts. $40 shipped for the two with hoods and $35 
shipped without. 

Ibex Orange Bike Jersey. XL $50 shipped


On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 10:17:28 PM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote:
> I am selling several items that I think might be of interest on the list. If 
> a clothing item is of interest let me know. I have a couple of jackets listed 
> as well. Please feel free to ask questions and for more details. 
> 
> White Industries 2 speed freewheel (DOS ENO 16t/18t) $65 shipped
> 
> Carradice bike bureau single pannier - $100 shipped.I like this bag but now 
> just use the Sackville Saddlebag. 
> 
> Showers Pass Transit Backback. $130 shipped
> 
> Randijo XL Hat $40 shipped
> 
> Ibex Blue Shak Vest Large$50
> Shipped
> 
> Icebreaker Sierra Hoody Plus XL. Has a softshell hood and protection. Great 
> wool combo piece. Retailed at $250. $85 shipped. 
> 
> Arcteryx Jacket. Plenty of life in this one. Want it to be used. 
> 
> Icebreaker size large sweat shirts. Let me know if you any interest. I’ll try 
> to list out the items soon but I have a lot of wool items. 
> 
> For Sale Jonathan:
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5ON9t3sbptS

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis ~ 1999

[Minh]

i also have a set of these michelin wildgrippers--on my MTB from the late 
90's.  though mine are nearing 20 years old so not sure how well they ride, 
its been a few years.   are michelin still making these or are all these 
pics NOS?   

what other options are out there for celeste green tires?  for some reason 
i never thought to match these to an atlantis, looks good but almost too 
matchey-matchey :)

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[RBW] Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

[Bill Lindsay]

Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post called it 
a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting option for 
many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis ~ 1999

[jandrews]

Speaking of Green tires, 
Did y'all see this?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhUSydjHSAO/?hl=en&taken-by=ultraromance_mach2


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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Ron Mc]

Come to think of it, I wouldn't be afraid of using the Raceblade XL with 
knobbies, because the height is easily adjustable - this might be an option 
for you, Deac. 
Even though they're rated for 32mm, they provide great coverage and 
clearance with my 38mm Barlows.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Ron Mc]

ps - I frequently ride gravel roads, and no rock pick-up.  My buddy with 
metal fenders and no wipers here, his bike sounds like popcorn on gravel.  

>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:04:37 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> Ron, on the tire wipers do you have them in contact at all with your 
>> tires?  I installed the compass wipers on my Saluki last fall and found 
>> them to be fiddly, lots of adjustment to keep them from buzzing on the 
>> tire.  I've got them off the tire enough now to not require ride to ride 
>> adjustment but I also now question the utility.
>>
>> I will say that I don't notice picking up small rocks to rattle my 
>> fenders come to think of it but I also haven't ridden any significant 
>> gravel.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Ron Mc]

Hi Tony, no, I have them just Not contacting the tires.  When I hear the 
tire rub noise, I adjust them, but that's very infrequent.  So fiddling 
time is minimal.  I avoid riding off curbs, because that knocks the front 
out of shape, and I have to stop and reshape it.  
On another bike I use the SKS Raceblade XL, plus a PDW Origami front mud 
guard on the seat tube to make them close enough full-coverage fenders.  
Here I have the tire wipers in the more traditional position.  They still 
help with mud, but don't reject sticks and rocks. . 

  


What they help most for is installing the fenders - I get the position 
correct immediately, and can install these in 2 min.  

BTW, these fenders you shape by sliding them in the stays.  Once you get 
the shape correct, they come with self-tapping screws to permanently fix 
the fender in the stays.  


On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:04:37 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Ron, on the tire wipers do you have them in contact at all with your 
> tires?  I installed the compass wipers on my Saluki last fall and found 
> them to be fiddly, lots of adjustment to keep them from buzzing on the 
> tire.  I've got them off the tire enough now to not require ride to ride 
> adjustment but I also now question the utility.
>
> I will say that I don't notice picking up small rocks to rattle my fenders 
> come to think of it but I also haven't ridden any significant gravel.
>
> Tony
>
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Something Simple This Way Comes...

[tc]

Thanks all -- it really is a fun bike.  Sometimes it's just nice not to 
change gears and focus on what you can do with what you've got.  Kind of 
freeing.  I'll stick with this gearing for a while and see what happens.  I 
will probably add a tooth or two to the chainring eventually, but whatever 
- it's all good.

Other thoughts:

   - I continue to like the inverted Albatross bars.  I will add another 
   layer of leather grip wrap, not because of vibration or soreness, but 
   because the diameter with 1 layer just feels too small to me.
   - Confirmed on my ride yesterday that moving up into the curves on the 
   inverted Albatross is really comfortable.  I didn't do it that often; but, 
   when I did, just to change things up, or esp. to climb, it felt natural and 
   provided comfortable leverage when pumping up hills.  And it looks cool :)
   - The 42mm Continental Contact tires ('basketball tires') are actually 
   quite nice.  This is my first set.  Felt reasonably fast, and at ~42lbs 
   pressure absorbed vibrations, bumps, and wooden bridge irregularities very 
   well.  Noiseless, too.
   - The Brooks B17 Imperial (has the central cutout) is such a great 
   saddle.  I have one on my Sam and love it.  Just the right amt of support, 
   enables moving around easily, and just enough give without needing 
   springs.  I really like it over the regular B17 or the Flyer.


Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Tony DeFilippo]

Ron, on the tire wipers do you have them in contact at all with your
tires?  I installed the compass wipers on my Saluki last fall and found
them to be fiddly, lots of adjustment to keep them from buzzing on the
tire.  I've got them off the tire enough now to not require ride to ride
adjustment but I also now question the utility.

I will say that I don't notice picking up small rocks to rattle my fenders
come to think of it but I also haven't ridden any significant gravel.

Tony

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 7:07 AM Ron Mc  wrote:

> I'm going to take exception with Patrick, in that, you'll never crack any
> fender unless you install it with external residual stress (and yes, he
> admitted that).
> I have one set of Honjos that has been on two bikes, for many, many
> thousands of miles - wrecked on the 1st bike, reshaped the S-shaped front
> fender to install them on the second bike.
> Honjos take very well to shaping compound curves.  Spread them every inch
> or so to tighten the radius, squeeze, etc.to increase the radius.
>
> 
>
> I don't hesitate to ride the bike in slop, but on my Compass slicks, and
> the reason I don't care about the slop is I use tire wipers where most put
> their mud guards.  They reject everything from the fenders and scrape
> occasional mud from the tires, preventing the fenders from plugging.  Zero
> noise on gravel roads.  That said, not intended for riding in mud, but
> dealing with intermittent mud patches
>
>  
>
> Jan didn't like this, but for Many (thousand) miles, it works fine.  Have
> flipped the front scraper backwards, and it simply deflects out of the
> way.  It rejects rocks, sticks, chert and most of the mud from entering the
> fender.
>
> I don't think I'd use any fenders with knobbies.  I think I'd go with
> mountain bike type mudguards for knobbies.
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[RBW] Re: Something Simple This Way Comes...

[Dave Johnston]

I tried Dove bars upside down for awhile on my fixed/free bike and didn't 
like them at all in upside down mode. Somehow low and close is worse than 
high and close.

 I found Mustache are better for that look and purpose, but I eventually 
settled on drops. I prefer drops when you only have one gear to work with 
as I find honking the under geared bike on steep uphills easier using drops 
and hoods positions (m bars are good for that too).

-Dave



On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 11:58:00 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: How hearty/quiet Honjo Fenders?

[Ron Mc]

I'm going to take exception with Patrick, in that, you'll never crack any 
fender unless you install it with external residual stress (and yes, he 
admitted that).  
I have one set of Honjos that has been on two bikes, for many, many 
thousands of miles - wrecked on the 1st bike, reshaped the S-shaped front 
fender to install them on the second bike.  
Honjos take very well to shaping compound curves.  Spread them every inch 
or so to tighten the radius, squeeze, etc.to increase the radius.  

  

I don't hesitate to ride the bike in slop, but on my Compass slicks, and 
the reason I don't care about the slop is I use tire wipers where most put 
their mud guards.  They reject everything from the fenders and scrape 
occasional mud from the tires, preventing the fenders from plugging.  Zero 
noise on gravel roads.  That said, not intended for riding in mud, but 
dealing with intermittent mud patches

   

Jan didn't like this, but for Many (thousand) miles, it works fine.  Have 
flipped the front scraper backwards, and it simply deflects out of the 
way.  It rejects rocks, sticks, chert and most of the mud from entering the 
fender.  

I don't think I'd use any fenders with knobbies.  I think I'd go with 
mountain bike type mudguards for knobbies.  

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