[RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

[Justin, Oakland]

I just saw they also have Brifters and some options for 2x and 8 speed! 
They say the derailleurs are only compatible with Advent shifters so 
there's some lock-in there...

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:09:38 PM UTC-8, Drw wrote:
>
> This is cool. Assuming reasonable durability, it seems very rivish. 2 
> years ago I would’ve bought at least 2 sets.

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

[Justin, Oakland]

I love my Ergons. They made the bar usable. I tried them before with cork 
grips and standard ESI grips and it just didn't gel.

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:29:07 PM UTC-8, masmojo wrote:
>
> Me & the Boscos never bonded, but what I dig on my Albatross and other 
> similar bars is BMX grips!
> Yeah . . . BMX grips some of my favorites: Deco, Volume, Subrosa and 
> Eastern.
> If I could figure out how to post pics I would. 

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Drw]

Welcome and awesome. now start saving for 6 more. 

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[RBW] Re: MIT AHH reviews?

[tc]

You are so gonna love that bike.  Please take a moment, after realizing what a 
great ride it provides, to appreciate the PAINT. Soectacular!  It’ll draw you 
in, like watching a camp fire 😉

Long live the MIT Homer!

Tom

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[RBW] My first Rivendell!

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

“So much of it doesn't make sense.”

Wait till you get to the next thought. “Wait. This is what makes sense. It’s 
everything I’ve been daft enough to believe unquestioningly that doesn’t make 
sense.”

Then the thought after that. “Whoa. Um ... what else am I unwittingly believing 
without truely paying attention?”

Grin.

That was me when I discovered going barefoot. It led, nearly simultaniously, to 
nose breathing, floor living and highfat ketogenic diet. Eventually it led to 
Grant and my bicycling revolution began. It’s also led to homeopathic medicine 
and other things. What an amazing ride. 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

[Drw]

This is cool. Assuming reasonable durability, it seems very rivish. 2 years ago 
I would’ve bought at least 2 sets.

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[RBW] Grant and Gus Boots content in dirtrag magazine

[Richard Rios]

Nice! I first learned of rivendell from dirt rag. They had an article titled 
what the hell is randonneuring. Which featured a guy on a Riv. I'm subscribed 
but the print version is becoming rather lean...hope they carry on.

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[RBW] Re: MIT AHH reviews?

[Matt Beecher]

Mine has an eta of Thursday. The last components will be with it. 

Now I just have to wait for the ice to melt. 

-Matt

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[RBW] Grant and Gus Boots content in dirtrag magazine

[Daniel D.]

Glad this magazine is still around.  Remember reading it way back when...

https://dirtragmag.com/start-slow-and-taper-off-forest-bathing-on-two-wheels/

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[RBW] FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

[Joe Bernard]

Hey Jim, is the C-to-T measurement to the tip of the seatpost? I'd be curious 
what the number is at the top of where the toptube bisects. 

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[OwenS]

Amazing. Thank you. I will reach out to him. 

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

[masmojo]

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

[masmojo]

Me & the Boscos never bonded, but what I dig on my Albatross and other similar 
bars is BMX grips!
Yeah . . . BMX grips some of my favorites: Deco, Volume, Subrosa and Eastern.
If I could figure out how to post pics I would. 

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

So happy for you Owen.

gr...@rivbike.com

Address is as simple and amazing as your bike.  

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[OwenS]

Oh I definitely meant 'cheap' in the pure sense of cost only. Very cheap 
when you compare the Altus derailleur with my previous bike's SRAM Shadow 
clutch derailleur. Did the SRAM change gears any better? *Nope.* Did it 
costs like 8 x the price? 
*Yep. *

I'm kinda pissed that the general bike industry has drip fed me information 
around which components I needed as a 'serious cyclist'. I think the whole 
Shimano/SRAM hierarchy of components is almost total garbage. Categorize 
components in terms of weight or use-case, not some imaginary metric of 
'betterness'. 
*"Oh no don't get the Altus, the Claris is much better. But not as good as 
Tiagra. What you really need is 105". *

I feel free in so may ways now. I wish I could thank Grant directly but I 
have no idea how to get in contact with him. 



On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 11:18:55 AM UTC+11, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> I'm not sure it's fair to characterize all the components as "cheap" which 
> often implies poor quality as much as it does low price. If it came with 
> the stock Silver crank, for instance, those sell for $220. Not outrageous 
> by today's bloated measures, but not cheap. And a fine crank. The bars are 
> Boscos--70 to 95 dollars; my first gen came with Bosco bullmoose, the 
> stand-alone version of which sells for $160. The only thing I thought was a 
> bit "cheap" were the somewhat maligned shifter things on the first gen--I 
> believe they fixed that.  Alex makes fine rims, Kenda makes fine, if not 
> cognescenti-worthy, tires. The other bits and bobs are inexpensive, 
> practical, good quality, will last just fine. Enjoy your handsome, 
> practical, fun, prudently-spec'd new bicycle!
>
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:32:20 PM UTC-5, OwenS wrote:
>>
>> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
>> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
>> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>>
>> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I 
>> can say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
>> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
>> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
>> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
>> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
>> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
>> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
>> They really are special bikes. 
>> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Ash]

Owens, congratulations!!

It doesn't make sense is right.  Exactly how I felt when I test road a Riv 
for the first time (I'm lucky to be located near the HQ).  

Enjoy the bike!

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:32:20 UTC-8, OwenS wrote:
>
> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>
> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I can 
> say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
> They really are special bikes. 
> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

[Ash]

I'm a Bosco handlebar fanatic.  Have them on two bikes currently.  (I have 
also tried all 3 sizes)

Before moving to Bosco I had settled on Ergon GC touring (the flatish kind) 
cork grips.
I found them pretty uncomfortable with Boscos.  Round grips work better for 
some reason.  Now I have the round rubber Ergons.  They might be called 
GA2.   They have clamps, so easy to install/remove.  

Oury grips worked fine too.  I like round ergons slightly better.


On Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:33:23 UTC-8, OwenS wrote:
>
> Hi all, I posted this before but I used an emoji so perhaps it didn't get 
> approved? 
>
> After some ideas on suggestions for grips for the bosco bars. Has anyone 
> tried cloth bar tape on the bosco bar? Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm not sure it's fair to characterize all the components as "cheap" which 
often implies poor quality as much as it does low price. If it came with 
the stock Silver crank, for instance, those sell for $220. Not outrageous 
by today's bloated measures, but not cheap. And a fine crank. The bars are 
Boscos--70 to 95 dollars; my first gen came with Bosco bullmoose, the 
stand-alone version of which sells for $160. The only thing I thought was a 
bit "cheap" were the somewhat maligned shifter things on the first gen--I 
believe they fixed that.  Alex makes fine rims, Kenda makes fine, if not 
cognescenti-worthy, tires. The other bits and bobs are inexpensive, 
practical, good quality, will last just fine. Enjoy your handsome, 
practical, fun, prudently-spec'd new bicycle!


On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:32:20 PM UTC-5, OwenS wrote:
>
> Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member 
> here) Clem Smith H. He was kind enough to get it shipped to me here in 
> Australia. I don't think are too many of the over here. 
>
> Went for my first real ride with it today on my commute to work. All I can 
> say is. *Wow*. I'm a believer now, Grant.
> I honestly don't know what it is about this bike. So much of it doesn't 
> make sense. On paper it's heavy. The components are quite cheap as well.  
> And yet it all comes together in what is plain a simple, an incredible 
> riding experience. It's comfortable, its fast, its fun. I couldn't be 
> happier. And it's also the first bike I've owned where I actually want to 
> modify it. To tinker and enhance different aspects and make it truly mine. 
> They really are special bikes. 
> Here it is posed gracefully in front of a trashcan and some milk crates.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2019-02-21 at 11.59.05 pm copy.jpg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bosco bars grip suggestions

[James Warren]

Ergon!

With the bars titled down a bit. No bar-end shifter capability there, so
what I do is IRD stem mount shifters. Then my Bosco is free and clear for
much hand comfort. I'll try to find a photo later.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 2:33 PM OwenS  wrote:

> Hi all, I posted this before but I used an emoji so perhaps it didn't get
> approved?
>
> After some ideas on suggestions for grips for the bosco bars. Has anyone
> tried cloth bar tape on the bosco bar? Cheers!
>
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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

[Ed Carolipio]

I started with a single layer cloth tape before going on a grip journey::

   - Rivbike Dutch paddle - too small for my hands
   - Cylindrical MTB grip with a lock-on screw, like the Lizard Skins 
    - this one worked well too, but a 
   bit short lenghtwise to cover the generous grip area on the Boscoes
   - ESI Chunkys Extra Long size - a little too thick for my hands, 
   difficult to take off/on
   - ODI Longneck Grips in superlong size - really like the length for 
   variety in hand position but a bit squirmy when stand-up pedaling

Next step on my grip journey is the superlong Kraton grips from Jones bikes 
, which would be firmer 
than the ODI ones while preserving the front-to-back variety in hand 
positions. I think the "Riv padded cloth tape grip" would be a good option 
but I don't have firsthand experience to comment.

--Ed C.

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 2:33:23 PM UTC-8, OwenS wrote:
>
> Hi all, I posted this before but I used an emoji so perhaps it didn't get 
> approved? 
>
> After some ideas on suggestions for grips for the bosco bars. Has anyone 
> tried cloth bar tape on the bosco bar? Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

[Edwin W]

Components: cheap
Getting to AUS: expensive
That gap between the rear wheel and the seat tube? Priceless.

Enjoy!

Appaloosa'ed in Nashville,

Edwin

>
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[RBW] Bosco bars grip suggestions

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not the Boscos, but similar hand positons (and my wife and daughters ride the 
Boscos with cotton tape too), but I ride the Albastache on my QB and cloth tape 
is fantastic. I love the near no cushion (I’m riding the Bullmoose bars bare, 
at least till I see how we geat along in the hotter months). I prefer no 
shellac. Just wrap, use twine to finish the end, and you’re all set.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

[David Bivins]

The CineStill color processing kit is very simple to use. For black
and white, I either use Diafine with Tri-X shot at 1000 speed, or I
use Rodinal for everything else.
https://davidshootsfilm.com/2013/11/14/developing-with-diafine/

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
>
> I’ve just started processing at home, so it’s just BW right now. Mattias 
> Burling posted an informative video about processing color using a particular 
> set of chemicals that he says is much easier for the do-it-yourselfer. Once I 
> get proficient with BW I’ll give it a try.
>
> —Eric
>
> On Feb 21, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
>
> Maybe we can duel!
>
> My local photo store (Jeremiah's Photo Corner*) has started classes for home 
> developing color. Apparently the trick is to use a sous vide cooking 
> controller to maintain temps.
> If you're interested, it might be worth a stay at the Astro Motel (partially 
> owned by Andy Hampsten?) and take the class. Jeremiah's is close enough to 
> the Astro that it would be faster to walk than to ride a bike.
>
> *Jeremiah is a bigger riv/bike nerd than I am.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:56:49 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> You’re on! I think I’ll bring my Leitz CL. Maybe 28mm lens. Black and white 
>> definitely.
>>
>> —Eric N
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Philip Williamson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I've shot THOUSANDS digital pictures at bike shows. So much that it's not 
>> that interesting anymore, and at NAHBS 2016, I mostly shot photos in the 
>> bike valet lockup.
>> This year, I'm planning to take my Leica iii (d), and just shoot film. 
>> Probably more people than bikes, but i won't know till I'm there.
>>
>> My challenge to y'all, is to do the same
>>
>> Make film pictures at NAHBS
>> Upload your best shots wherever, and post a link here
>> Talk about the pictures and the experience
>>
>> I plan to tag my pictures with #NAHBSfilm and #ridebikesshootfilm
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
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[RBW] My first Rivendell!

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Brilliant, Owen! I’m delighted you’re delighted! You’re description of the 
headscratching wonderment is spot on. Enjoy!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini handlebar ideas

[John McBurney]

I have Nitto bullhorns on my Bombadil. I’ve done a lot of road biking with
drops and mountain biking with minimally swept back flat bars. I’d never
ridden a swept back bar of any sort except for a test ride.

It took a few minutes to adjust to the bullhorn bars but especially when
combined with the Brooks B67 saddle it’s just a lovely relaxed position. I
like it. I still like the position on my race bike but I totally get where
the upright position works especially with a wider sprung saddle like the
B67.

John

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 11:53 AM Chip Martens 
wrote:

> Hey tc,
>
> I've talked to Jeremy @ Sycip and the JJ and JJJ bars will be up soon. I
> talked to Will @ Riv and the Wavies should be up shortly as well!
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 6:13:32 AM UTC-6, tc wrote:
>>
>> Surprised no one has mentioned Bullhorns.  Never had them, but like the
>> Albastache (in a different way), they offer multiple hand positions for
>> relaxed and aggressive riding, but the stretch to the aggressive position
>> (at least the shorter-style bullhorns) isn't as much as a drop.  I've seen
>> a ton of different brake/shifter combo's on bullhorns, too.  (Note I'm not
>> against the Albastache; I actually have one ready to mount if I decide to
>> go that direction ... just shopping around for different ideas at this
>> point.)
>>
>> I'm still getting used to the look of thembut some actually look
>> pretty cool.
>>
>> Anyway, those of you that have experience with bullhorns, I'd love to
>> hear your pro's and con's - thanks.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> PS. Joe, I like that JJ bar, as well as its brother, the JJJ.  I wish
>> whatbars.com had them to compare.  From the looks of the JJ, the 31.8
>> Riv Wavie will likely be a direct competitor.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for satellite mapping thing

[ascpgh]

It’s not clear how fully functioning the included GPS of new smartphones is. 
I’ve read discussions about the co-operation with cellular internet for the 
route information and detail greater than latitude longitude definition.

I’ve been left of undefined location by electronic means in a few too dire of 
moments to rely solely on them. The “canopy” of foliage or atmospheric moisture 
degrading  signals is a risk to me, so I keep a map and compass with me. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh (momentarily Fayetteville, AR)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on 1x12'd MIT Atlanti Or Other Riv's?

[Justin, Oakland]

I emailed Bill but Chris King has this hub coming out in March. R45, no disc, 
XDR driver. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Comments on 1x12'd MIT Atlanti Or Other Riv's?

[Victor Hanson]

I believe DT Swiss can custom configure that hub.  QR, 10mm assumed, xd
driver, 135 old.

VTW

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:53 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Justin
>
> White Industries doesn't have any model listed on their site that is
> 135mm, QR, with an XD driver.  I called White and left a message asking
> exactly that.  I assume it would be the MI5 that would need to take a XD
> driver.  If they can sell that, that's probably the one I would buy
>
> I don't see any DT Swiss model that's 135mm QR with an XD driver.  That
> would be a decent fallback if White Industries didn't offer something.
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> Bill-
>> There are many rear hubs spaces at 135 that can take an XD driver. White
>> Industries t11 is 130 and reputedly has an XD driver.
>> https://www.whiteind.com/t11
>> Or any number of DTSwiss: (centerlock makes a decent rim braked hub)
>> https://www.dtswiss.com/en/products/hubs-rws/hubs/
>>
>> Any reason those options won’t work?
>> -J
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[RBW] Re: Roadini handlebar ideas

[Chip Martens]

Has anyone else tried this method from Dan Stroud ( @hobocross on Instagram 
) — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGokAt6XAi0

I didn't love the Salsa bars I had on my Wolverine and was looking for 
something more comfortable. I built WhatBars.com to help me figure out this 
problem, but it was only when Dan posted that video that I decided to go 
with the Soma Oxfords ( similar to the Albatross bars ).

I personally always found myself riding in the hoods or on the flats, but 
never truly being comfortable, especially at slower speeds, and switching 
my Wolverine up to this setup with the brake levers / grips as instructed 
has made a huge difference. In the "hoods" position, I still feel like I 
can "tuck down" if I'm trying to ride more swiftly.


On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:00:41 PM UTC-6, Ash wrote:
>
> This configuration is actually super practical!
>
> Drop bars offer aggressive (corners), more aggressive (hoods) and super 
> aggressive (drops) riding positions.  When I want to provide some relief to 
> back and shoulders I had nowhere to go.
>
> This solution gives you best of both worlds!  The corners when you want to 
> push harder and the regular grip area when you want to relax, be able to 
> look around and cruise.
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 January 2019 02:09:36 UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Here's my solution to a similar issue with my new Breezer Doppler. I 
>> didn't like the drops on it so I nabbed this kinda-like-a-Jones-Bend bar 
>> from Sycip, the JJ Bar. You'll still have to get a 31.8 stem, but it uses 
>> road levers. I'm using brifters, bar-ends will fit but might be kind of an 
>> awkward angle. 
>>
>> As soon as I kick this death flu I'll get 'em wrapped and go for a ride 
>> for a stem reach report. I had already swapped a shorter one in for the 
>> drops, so may need to put the stock one back on. 
>>
>> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:53:51 PM UTC-8, tc wrote: 
>> > Thanks for the suggestions so far!   
>> > 
>> > I have much experience wth Jones loops, having had them in 2 different 
>> bikes (a hardtail Specialized and a Clem). Love that bar, but can’t yet get 
>> my head around that bar on a Roadini. But the Jones Bend bar might look 
>> better -  it does come in silver - and I’d need a new 31.8 stem. 
>> > 
>> > Personally I’m not liking the look of a super high stem and drops. 
>>  “Life’s too short to own an ugly boat - er, bike” :-) 
>> > 
>> > Haven’t looked at cowchippers yet. I had a cowbell on my Vaya years 
>> ago. I did like the shallowness of the cowbell drops. 
>> > 
>> > Will look at Soma highway 1, too. 
>> > 
>> > Keep them ideas comin’. 
>> > 
>> > Continuing to stretch and wishing for more and longer rides... 
>> > 
>> > Tom 
>>
>>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for satellite mapping thing

[aeroperf]

We did a cycling tour in Puglia, Italy (heel of Italy's "boot") with these 
guys: www.pugliacycletours.com
They handed us a Garmin unit with pre-programmed routes through the Itria 
valley to bike along.

Showed a map without internet
Located current actual location
Showed trails as well as paved roads
Did NOT show elevation
No larger than a smartphone
Charged via USB

It provided us with pre-ridden routes.  All we had to do was follow the 
pointer on the displayed blue route.  It displayed a flag if we went 
"off-route".

Others may know better if this matches up with "Elements", but I'll check 
with them to find out what it was if it sounds like what you want.
I'm used to following paper maps attached to the handlebars, so I was 
impressed.

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[RBW] Re: MIT AHH reviews?

[Todd Porter]

The eta on mine is friday, per tracking info.  Can't wait.  Hoping for good 
weather, but either way, will try to put some miles on it, even if its just 
commuting miles. 

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[RBW] Bosco bars grip suggestions

[OwenS]

Hi all, I posted this before but I used an emoji so perhaps it didn't get 
approved? 

After some ideas on suggestions for grips for the bosco bars. Has anyone tried 
cloth bar tape on the bosco bar? Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

[neilvdoshi]

I've seen this bike in person. It is a stunner and only outdone by the 
owner. Jim is a true gent and meticulous about his bikes. This is a crazy 
good deal! 




On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 7:50:02 PM UTC-5, Jim Ammirato wrote:
>
> Selling my Rivendell Road Custom frameset. It was built in April, 2000 by 
> Roland Della Santa. Pea/Sage green Imron paint by JB. 
>
> Frame specs are -
>
> ST - 54cm c-c (56 c-t)
>
> TT - 54cm c-c
>
> Rear spacing - 130mm
>
> Pics here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/velolab
>
> It uses short reach brakes. I am currently running a 700x32 Pacela and 
> there's still a bit of room under the bridge and crown. I've never tried 
> running a 35mm but it looks like they might fit (?). I've ridden it with 
> 28mm Paselas with fenders. It has single eyelets front and rear and a pump 
> peg.
>
> It is in very good condition. There are a few paint chips/nicks especially 
> on the eyelets that can be easily touched up. There is a small ding on the 
> top tube. This happened when the bike fell over and just nicked my portable 
> stand. You can see it in the pics. It's not reallly noticeable from three 
> feet away. The paint didn't chip or crack, it's more of a scuff. Feel free 
> to ask questions. 
>
> Asking $1250. shipped to CONUS. Please contact me off list if interested. 
> Thanks !
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Grilver Clem H Size 52 Brand New

[OwenS]

To me! Now to get it to Australia...

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:08:22 AM UTC+11, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Congratulations. 
>
> Hugh
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 2:57 PM RDS  wrote:
>
>> Sold
>>
>> On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:23:06 AM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a brand new, in box never opened, Clem H in size 52 in the 
>>> Grilver color.  Purchased earlier this year.  I haven't even opened the 
>>> box. I paid the full $1,650 price that's on the web site.  I'll take $1,400 
>>> and I will pay the shipping charge as long as it it within the continental 
>>> USA.  Contact me off list if interested.
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[RBW] Your favorite bar/grips/tape combo

[OwenS]

I'm looking for opinions on your favorite bar and grips/tape combinations. 
I'm thinking of going full cotton bar tape on my bosco bar but looking for 
other ideas. Show off your setup!

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[RBW] Opinions on cloth handlebar tape?

[OwenS]

So looks like my Clem Smith 🚴‍♂️ is on it's way across the pond to me in 
Australia so now I'm looking at how to set her up when she arrives! 😁 

Will be running the stock bosco bars at first and wondering whether I 
should look at some regular rubber/leather hand grips or instead just 
wrap/double wrap the whole bar with cloth tape (because i think it looks 
great, and maybe its comfortable too??)

Anyone else tried it and loved or hated it? Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

[Jim Ammirato]

Bump with new price. $1150. shipped and I will include the King no-logo 
headset and a sweet Rivendell wool jersey made by Woolistic. 

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 7:50:02 PM UTC-5, Jim Ammirato wrote:
>
> Selling my Rivendell Road Custom frameset. It was built in April, 2000 by 
> Roland Della Santa. Pea/Sage green Imron paint by JB. 
>
> Frame specs are -
>
> ST - 54cm c-c (56 c-t)
>
> TT - 54cm c-c
>
> Rear spacing - 130mm
>
> Pics here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/velolab
>
> It uses short reach brakes. I am currently running a 700x32 Pacela and 
> there's still a bit of room under the bridge and crown. I've never tried 
> running a 35mm but it looks like they might fit (?). I've ridden it with 
> 28mm Paselas with fenders. It has single eyelets front and rear and a pump 
> peg.
>
> It is in very good condition. There are a few paint chips/nicks especially 
> on the eyelets that can be easily touched up. There is a small ding on the 
> top tube. This happened when the bike fell over and just nicked my portable 
> stand. You can see it in the pics. It's not reallly noticeable from three 
> feet away. The paint didn't chip or crack, it's more of a scuff. Feel free 
> to ask questions. 
>
> Asking $1250. shipped to CONUS. Please contact me off list if interested. 
> Thanks !
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for satellite mapping thing

[tuolumne bikes]

The cheapskate way can have additional advantages, depending on your needs. 
A cheap Android cell phone with an app like Backcountry Navigator or some 
of the other apps previously mentioned will be much cheaper than a 
dedicated handheld or bike GPS. It will usually have a much bigger 
touchscreen with better user interface and USB charging. The GPS works 
without cell service, but navigation like Google Maps needs cell data or 
wifi. 

If you carry a cell phone already, consider a (small) second phone for 
extended trip use of GPS. The "GPS phone" doesn't need a cell account--just 
connect it via wifi at home to set up the app and download maps, and keep 
it in airplane mode (with GPS on) when out in the field. The GPS function 
doesn't drain the phone battery much--it's usually the constant search for 
cell signal that kills your battery, so the "GPS phone" will usually keep 
working long after your regular cell is dead. With a USB block battery, you 
can have GPS for a pretty long trip in the boonies.

I use Backcountry Navigator Pro out in the Nationall Forest. It does 
everything a handheld does except turn by turn navigation and has detailed 
maps available for download. Caltopo maps are excellent USGS topos for the 
USA, and there are other providers for most of the rest of the world. Some 
of the fancier maps require a subscription, and the app cost about $10 when 
I bought it years ago. Always carry a paper map also.

Carl, Columbia, CA

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report, Brothers in CA

[Amit Singh]

Fantastic ride report. I'm sure you've inspired lots of people to visit 
California and take your same route ... and hopefully encouraging others to 
post pictures and ride reports of their own local treasures to share with 
all.

Well done, and thank you for posting.

Amit

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 7:40:02 PM UTC-8, lambbo wrote:
>
> For years now I've been ogling the photos shared here of rides in the SF 
> area, and thinking about how I could make my way out there with a Rivendell 
> to do some climbing and have ocean views and not freeze to death...an 
> escape from Brooklyn was necessary.  
> In early December I asked the group for suggestions on a 3 day loop from 
> SF heading north... I was finally planning a trip out to see my brother and 
> have a little adventure.  
> There were lots of options, and we took a bit from a number of routes the 
> list shared; we started by taking the ferry to Vallejo and continuing up to 
> St.Helena, then heading up and over to Tomales, and finally back to SF 
> along rt. 1.
>
> A week before the ride I went around to some local bike shops and 
> eventually, at 718 Cycles, found a bike box to pack my Roadini into for the 
> flight. I've never done this, but I'm an artist and have packed a lot of 
> artwork, so I approached it like that...foam and zip-ties all around.  I 
> also watched a Rinko video by Jan Heine, which was really useful.   I have 
> the MKS Rinko pedal system on my Roadini, which made packing and setting 
> back up that much easier (being able to pop the pedals off without a wrench 
> is also great for saving space in the hallway to our apartment).  Alaskan 
> Air took it as a checked bag for no extra fee! When I arrived, I pulled the 
> bike out of the box, put the bars, wheels, and seat back on, popped on my 
> pedals, and was off in under 10 minutes! 
>
> My brother is in better shape than I am, and rides a delightfully light 
> weight Cad12 aluminum road machine, so I knew we would need to plan the 
> trip with days short enough that I could handle the climbing, and that he 
> could stay comfortable his plastic saddle. I only have a small saddlesac 
> for my Roadini, and my bro has a small RoadRunner bag, so we decided not to 
> camp.  Short credit card tour; there are definitely folks who have ridden 
> this exact route, about 150 miles, in one day. But we wanted to have fun 
> and hang out, which we did!
>
> 1 
> We started with 48 easy, relatively flat, miles on day one, keeping a 
> comfortable 16 mph average and just enjoying the beautiful warmth and new 
> surroundings as we cruised up the not-so pretty Nappy-Vallejo Highway for 
> some less comfortable but still beautiful miles (lots of traffic, none of 
> it cyclists) before getting onto the Silverado Trail, which really was 
> incredible.  Less traffic and many little side roads to explore, most 
> leading to spectacular vineyards.  We stayed on this route until 
> 'Zinfendel', essentially the outskirts of St Helena, where we had our 
> little B&B.  After chatting with the groundskeeper for a while, who gave us 
> a bottle of the owner's wine, we ditched our bikes and went into town, and 
> had one of the best pasta dishes I've ever had anywhere in the world 
> (Spaghetti with a parmesan-broth sauce over meatballs) and some stellar 
> wine.  I understand now why people go to Napa. 
>
> 2 
> The next day it was raining, but we were prepared with rain-kit.  I should 
> point out that I'm a wool-sweater, cotton t-shirt kind of rider, I don't 
> usually go for 'kit', but my brother is into it and, partly in excitement 
> about this trip, got me a Rapha winter jacket, and I got myself a Rapha 
> rain jacket (both on 60% off), and combined with my Rapha bib shorts which 
> I always wear on long rides, I was really comfortable through many showers 
> and even what felt like some hail, and everything fit easily into my jersey 
> pocket for the next weather change.  I still prefer a sweater for 
> breathability, but wouldn't it be nice if it fit in your back pocket, and 
> had it's own back pockets? ...thus I've been convinced of some 'kit'. 
> Especially the rain jacket - it's made for biking in the rain, and, thus, 
> is well suited for biking in the rain.  Anyways, we set out of St. Helena 
> to tackle our first real climb, and one of the biggest climbs I've done in 
> a long long time, over Spring Mountain road.  According to my altimeter, we 
> climbed about 2000 ft in 5 miles.  I know for you Californians that 
> probably just sounds like a normal 'hill', but here NYC we have the 
> Williamsburg Bridge and Bear Mountain, and that's about it, so my average 
> long ride doesn't have more than 3500ft climbing total.  I really enjoyed 
> the long climb in the rain, with huge evergreens coming up from below the 
> side of the road, so we could only see them from the center up, and 
> vineyards along the the 

[RBW] MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

[Jeremy Till]

Interesting. I may have to try it out on my CleMTB (I had been thinking about 
replacing the shifter anyways). Price point aside, this is the first 9spd rear 
derailleur that I'm aware of with a clutch. Are there any others? I wonder if 
the cable pull ratios are compatible with Shimano stuff.

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[RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

[Justin, Oakland]

This looks like the type of thing I would hope Riv would spec on the Boots 
if possible. Simple, low-cost and low maintenance without sacrificing some 
modern amenities like clutches and big cassettes. For the type of riding 
these big cassettes are mostly oriented to (MTB) I don't see bigger jumps 
being a huge deal.

-J

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> Review on pink bike:
>
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-microshifts-125-advent-drivetrain.html?utm_source=PBMAIN&utm_campaign=6c7f5ec0cb-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_05_08_24_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0e91f74851-6c7f5ec0cb-101055081
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> Tom
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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Phil:

Here’s an idea. How about giving everyone a limit—24 or 36 frames. Shoot just 
that and post your best pics. I enjoy the discipline of shooting film, since it 
requires that you think much more carefully about what you take. 

Eric “Film’s Not Dead” Norris


> On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I've shot THOUSANDS digital pictures at bike shows. So much that it's not 
> that interesting anymore, and at NAHBS 2016, I mostly shot photos in the bike 
> valet lockup.
> This year, I'm planning to take my Leica iii (d), and just shoot film. 
> Probably more people than bikes, but i won't know till I'm there. 
> 
> My challenge to y'all, is to do the same
> Make film pictures at NAHBS
> Upload your best shots wherever, and post a link here
> Talk about the pictures and the experience
> I plan to tag my pictures with #NAHBSfilm and #ridebikesshootfilm 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
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[RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

[Dave Grossman]

Cool.  I might have to try that cassette on the Hunq.

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>
> Review on pink bike:
>
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-microshifts-125-advent-drivetrain.html?utm_source=PBMAIN&utm_campaign=6c7f5ec0cb-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_05_08_24_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0e91f74851-6c7f5ec0cb-101055081
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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’ve just started processing at home, so it’s just BW right now. Mattias 
Burling posted an informative video about processing color using a particular 
set of chemicals that he says is much easier for the do-it-yourselfer. Once I 
get proficient with BW I’ll give it a try.

—Eric 

> On Feb 21, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe we can duel!
> 
> My local photo store (Jeremiah's Photo Corner*) has started classes for home 
> developing color. Apparently the trick is to use a sous vide cooking 
> controller to maintain temps. 
> If you're interested, it might be worth a stay at the Astro Motel (partially 
> owned by Andy Hampsten?) and take the class. Jeremiah's is close enough to 
> the Astro that it would be faster to walk than to ride a bike. 
> 
> *Jeremiah is a bigger riv/bike nerd than I am. 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
> 
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:56:49 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
> You’re on! I think I’ll bring my Leitz CL. Maybe 28mm lens. Black and white 
> definitely.
> 
> —Eric N
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Philip Williamson > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey folks,
>> 
>> I've shot THOUSANDS digital pictures at bike shows. So much that it's not 
>> that interesting anymore, and at NAHBS 2016, I mostly shot photos in the 
>> bike valet lockup.
>> This year, I'm planning to take my Leica iii (d), and just shoot film. 
>> Probably more people than bikes, but i won't know till I'm there. 
>> 
>> My challenge to y'all, is to do the same
>> Make film pictures at NAHBS
>> Upload your best shots wherever, and post a link here
>> Talk about the pictures and the experience
>> I plan to tag my pictures with #NAHBSfilm and #ridebikesshootfilm 
>> 
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA 
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[RBW] MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

[tc]

Review on pink bike:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-microshifts-125-advent-drivetrain.html?utm_source=PBMAIN&utm_campaign=6c7f5ec0cb-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_05_08_24_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0e91f74851-6c7f5ec0cb-101055081

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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That’s using your grainy gear! Don’t keep us in the dark. Let us know how 
things develop. Grin.

(There are a lot more, folks, so feel free to push it, open the aperatures of 
our minds, and expose us to yet more black and white thinking.)

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

[David Bivins]

I wish I could join you all! I'm a big film photography enthusiast.

To your point about color, Philip, CineStill began marketing a
purpose-built temperature controller that's based on a sous vide
device, the TCS-1000. I've successfully developed color film at home
in the kitchen sink by judiciously monitoring the tap water, but this
new device, which is about $100 (cheaper than a sous vide device), is
pretty brilliant. I was gifted one at Christmas but haven't used it
yet.

Take care,

David

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 3:14 PM Philip Williamson
 wrote:
>
> Maybe we can duel!
>
> My local photo store (Jeremiah's Photo Corner*) has started classes for home 
> developing color. Apparently the trick is to use a sous vide cooking 
> controller to maintain temps.
> If you're interested, it might be worth a stay at the Astro Motel (partially 
> owned by Andy Hampsten?) and take the class. Jeremiah's is close enough to 
> the Astro that it would be faster to walk than to ride a bike.
>
> *Jeremiah is a bigger riv/bike nerd than I am.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

[Philip Williamson]

Maybe we can duel!

My local photo store (Jeremiah's Photo Corner*) has started classes for 
home developing color. Apparently the trick is to use a sous vide cooking 
controller to maintain temps. 
If you're interested, it might be worth a stay at the Astro Motel 
(partially owned by Andy Hampsten?) and take the class. Jeremiah's is close 
enough to the Astro that it would be faster to walk than to ride a bike. 

*Jeremiah is a bigger riv/bike nerd than I am. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:56:49 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> You’re on! I think I’ll bring my Leitz CL. Maybe 28mm lens. Black and 
> white definitely.
>
> —Eric N
>
> On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Philip Williamson  > wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I've shot THOUSANDS digital pictures at bike shows. So much that it's not 
> that interesting anymore, and at NAHBS 2016, I mostly shot photos in the 
> bike valet lockup.
> This year, I'm planning to take my Leica iii (d), and just shoot film. 
> Probably more people than bikes, but i won't know till I'm there. 
>
> My challenge to y'all, is to do the same
>
>- Make film pictures at NAHBS
>- Upload your best shots wherever, and post a link here
>- Talk about the pictures and the experience
>
> I plan to tag my pictures with #NAHBSfilm and #ridebikesshootfilm 
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
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Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You’re on! I think I’ll bring my Leitz CL. Maybe 28mm lens. Black and white 
definitely.

—Eric N

> On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I've shot THOUSANDS digital pictures at bike shows. So much that it's not 
> that interesting anymore, and at NAHBS 2016, I mostly shot photos in the bike 
> valet lockup.
> This year, I'm planning to take my Leica iii (d), and just shoot film. 
> Probably more people than bikes, but i won't know till I'm there. 
> 
> My challenge to y'all, is to do the same
> Make film pictures at NAHBS
> Upload your best shots wherever, and post a link here
> Talk about the pictures and the experience
> I plan to tag my pictures with #NAHBSfilm and #ridebikesshootfilm 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA 
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[RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

[Philip Williamson]

Hey folks,

I've shot THOUSANDS digital pictures at bike shows. So much that it's not 
that interesting anymore, and at NAHBS 2016, I mostly shot photos in the 
bike valet lockup.
This year, I'm planning to take my Leica iii (d), and just shoot film. 
Probably more people than bikes, but i won't know till I'm there. 

My challenge to y'all, is to do the same

   - Make film pictures at NAHBS
   - Upload your best shots wherever, and post a link here
   - Talk about the pictures and the experience

I plan to tag my pictures with #NAHBSfilm and #ridebikesshootfilm 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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[RBW] WTB: Albatross Bars, Mark's Rack, Silver Bar End Shifters

[sameness]

[X-Post > iBOB]

Hi all, some random WTB items I'm after...

- Nitto Albatross (B352AA), the heat-treated aluminum version
- Nitto Mark's Rack (M1), the front rack with provisions for two struts
- RBW/Silver Bar End Shifters, 
these: 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/silver-shifters-bar-end-kit-17089

If for some reason you happen to have just the Silver Bar End Shifter 
Mounts 
(these: 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/silver-bar-end-shifter-pods-mounts-pair-17068),
 
I'd be interested in those as well.

Note this is for a budget-ish build, so (lower) price is more important 
than (cosmetic) condition. 

Let me know what you've got and your asking price including shipping to ZIP 
90064? Contact off-list via PM or email, which is my username at G Mail, 
please and thanks!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Off Topic: Questions about MacBook Pro, external monitor, heat, and screen burn-in

[Mark Schneider]

I recommend you join the Mac Observer chat room and post the question, I've 
seen it surface there often. Also search the Mac Geek Gab podcast archive, 
I know it's been discussed many times there. If your a hands on guy you can 
open it up blow out the fans and if you want re-apply thermal paste to the 
CPU, pretty sure it's a heat issue. Look on the "Snazzy Labs" youtube 
channel for a lot of how to stuff for Macs.
Been repair laptops for years and the 2014 isn't bad for access compared to 
the new ones.

Mark

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 12:49:10 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you are interested, please contact me off list. Many thanks.
>
> Riv content: Use MacBook Pro to post to RBW list.
>
> (Have Googled; still questions.)
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>
>
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>
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>
>
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> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
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> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews
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[RBW] Re: Brooks c19

[Steve Butcher]

oops!  thanks for the clarification, LeRoy.  I should have done some proof 
reading.  I meant $90.00 shipped CONUS.  
Steve

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 8:57:49 PM UTC-6, LeRoy wrote:
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> Here's a spare decimal point (.). it looks as though you might have lost 
> track of one.  ;^)
>
> LeRoy
>
>
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