Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Info

[Chad]

I don’t have the original receipt since I bought it used from the first owner.  
I think it is in California right now.  I’ll look and see if I have the serial 
number in an old email or pic and PM it to you.  I remember it likely being 
from the first batch of frames based on the production date and low serial 
number.  I loved that bike but there was a defect that was causing the paint to 
peel off the fork.  Also the original owner took it on a tour overseas and 
sanded and primed all the big chips to avoid rust from the sea air.   It was a 
too nice of a bike not to have the frame repainted but I decided that it was 
just a bit to tall for my PBH if I was going to continue using it as a pure 
MTB.  The other one nit pick that I had was that the tire clearance was limited 
to about a 51mm Pacenti Quasi-Moto due to the the really low seat stay bridge.  
I was going to send it to Riv’s recommenced painter, Rick, and he said he could 
easily raise the bridge a little bit and his price were somewhat reasonable. I 
believe Riv used a local painter, but not Rick, to shoot the frame.  IIRC the 
first of the Bombadil frames came raw and you had the choice of a powder coat 
in clear or powder in a limited palet of colors.  I think you could also have 
it custom wet painted at extra cost.  I found several upclose frame shots in 
the silver and gold color that Riv may have used for their site or in a 
catalogue.  I bought it the Bomba from the original owner and he bought it when 
it was a web special.  He or the guy I sold it to may still be on this list and 
I think I still have their contact info.  I also think I saw some shots of your 
bike on Facebook recently.  You have a fantastic bike!

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[RBW] Anyone have Rivendell Reader #23?

[Reed Kennedy]

I just realized the copy of Rivendell Reader #23 up on my site is missing a
*bunch* of pages. Including the pages on the Boxy Bag that I wanted to
re-read.

Does anyone have a paper copy that they could scan? Or send to me so I can
scan?


Best,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] NAHBS Film Photos

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

These were all shot with a Leitz/Minolta CL and a Voigtlander 40mm Nokton 
Classic f1.4, using Tri-X 400. Developed the film at home in Ilford DDX. 

Photos are just as they came out of the scanner; no post production applied.

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> On Mar 17, 2019, at 8:35 PM, David Bivins  wrote:
> 
> Nice! I like the high contrast look. What lens/camera/film/developer?
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:01 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Here are a few photos from the NAHBS that I shot on film. A few more waiting 
>> to get developed tomorrow.
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmBJnAHi
>> 
>> I was also taking video and shooting digital, so I didn’t have time to take 
>> as many film photos as I would have liked. However, I think these turned out 
>> OK.
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] NAHBS Film Photos

[David Bivins]

Nice! I like the high contrast look. What lens/camera/film/developer?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:01 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
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>
> Here are a few photos from the NAHBS that I shot on film. A few more waiting 
> to get developed tomorrow.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmBJnAHi
>
> I was also taking video and shooting digital, so I didn’t have time to take 
> as many film photos as I would have liked. However, I think these turned out 
> OK.
>
> --Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] FS: Sackville Saddlesack medium blue

[Andrew Letton]

 I resemble that remark!cheers,AndrewInBagLand

On Monday, March 18, 2019, 12:57:34 PM GMT+11, David Bivins 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm sorry, what is "too many bags?" I'm not familiar with this concept.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 8:35 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I got too many bags (again!). Minimal use, a smidge of tire rub on the thing 
> built to take tire rubbing, I optimistically mounted it on my XO-1 last week 
> and it worked fine 'til I actually put groceries in it!
>
> Looks great, works great, has the extra pouch thingy, no longer in production,
> $170 shipped.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Tweed Banana Seat Bag

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

PM sent.

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 2:16:22 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:
>
> 125.00 shipping included lower 48
>
> https://share.icloud.com/photos/0CaPI-SOwoEr6ZbORzErrCcIA#Home
>
> PayPal MasterCard visa accepted
>
> Kelly
>
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[RBW] NAHBS Film Photos

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here are a few photos from the NAHBS that I shot on film. A few more waiting to 
get developed tomorrow.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmBJnAHi  

I was also taking video and shooting digital, so I didn’t have time to take as 
many film photos as I would have liked. However, I think these turned out OK.

--Eric Norris
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[RBW] Re: F.S. Large Sackville saddlesack bags, Bosco Bullmoose

[Drw]

Id also be interested to know the xo size

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Re: [RBW] FOR SALE : STRONGLIGHT 93 CRANK

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a collection of rings for that crankset if the potential buyer is 
interested. 41-51-52-54, all in very good condition.

--Eric Norris
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> On Mar 17, 2019, at 11:09 AM, 'Charlie' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> STRONGLIGHT 93 CRANK with BOTTOM BRACKET and extra chain ring $115 SHIPPED to 
> USA
> 
>  170  ARMS  - 45-52  chainrings   -   with 40 teeth chainring-BOTTOM 
> BRACKET is ENGLISH THREAD 118mm  LENGTH SPINDLE
> 
> I CANNOT SEND ALL PICS - IF INTERESTED PLEASE ASK FOR MORE PICS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 4
> 
> 
> ALL IN GOOD CONDITION   -   NO SEPERATE PARTS FOR SALE - 
> 
> MOUNT BOLTS /  CAPS included$115 CASH or USPS MONEY ORDER SHIPPED TO USA  
> = I DO NOT HAVE THE PAYPAL THING.
> 
> +REASONABLE   OFFERS  CONSIDERED 
> 
> PLEASE CONTACT OFF LIST IF INTERESTED  :  charliepedal (at) verizon (dot) net 
> 
> Charlie Petry
> 
> JENNERSVILLE   PAU.S.A.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Sackville Saddlesack medium blue

[David Bivins]

I'm sorry, what is "too many bags?" I'm not familiar with this concept.

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>
> I got too many bags (again!). Minimal use, a smidge of tire rub on the thing 
> built to take tire rubbing, I optimistically mounted it on my XO-1 last week 
> and it worked fine 'til I actually put groceries in it!
>
> Looks great, works great, has the extra pouch thingy, no longer in production,
> $170 shipped.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Dealer Enameled Steal Camp Mugs

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Thanks everyone!!!  If you purchased one yesterday or today they got packed 
tonight and will be dropped in the mail tomorrow...2-3 days and you'll be 
sippin' in style 💕

Alex in Rochester

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[RBW] FS: Sackville Saddlesack medium blue

[Joe Bernard]

Now new and improved with the bag de-cat-haired after taking those pics. I 
forgot she sleeps on that spot on the bed 😁

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Rosco Cargo Mixte

[John McBurney]

Those are really nice kickstands. Much stronger that Pltescher. Easily
adjustable height.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 7:46 PM Drw  wrote:

> One of the VO dual leg ones. Can’t remember the name but it folds up onto
> one side like the pletscher dual leg
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[RBW] Re: New Rosco Cargo Mixte

[Drw]

One of the VO dual leg ones. Can’t remember the name but it folds up onto one 
side like the pletscher dual leg 

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[RBW] Re: New Rosco Cargo Mixte

[J Imler]

What kickstand?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[Ron Mc]

I watched What's Up Doc the other day, and forgot how hilarious that movie 
is.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZJhF-eT0MI

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[David Bivins]

Great point on the accessories, William. My Tern/Xtracycle Cargo Node
came with the Tern Kanga rack on the front which is extremely useful. I also
keep a "Captain Hook" elastic net on the back so I can tie something
down to the back deck if I'm not hauling my kid to a soccer game. The
Xtracycle bags can have a lot going on with all those straps, but I'm
happy to spend 10-15 minutes fiddling with straps so that I can carry
what would normally go in the back of a station wagon.


On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 2:45 PM William!  wrote:
>
> My family has owned an Edgerunner (non-electric), Spicy Curry and now a Tern 
> GSD. They are all great bikes and played a major part in allowing us to 
> remain car free with two kids.
>
> Here’s my take:
> - Get something with a Bosch system. Incredibly smooth, plenty of power (no 
> issues hauling adult passengers up hills) and reliable.
> - The small wheel factor of the GSD takes a bit of getting used to, but it 
> makes the bike far more practical for daily use. At $4k the base model GSD is 
> also the best deal for a Bosch-equipped cargo bike. It is extremely well 
> design - thru axels, adjustable bars, good integrated lighting and many other 
> nice details.
> - Pay as much attention to the accessories as you do the bike (especially if 
> you plan to haul children). The racks, bags, kickstand, and platforms 
> available will play a huge part in how useful, flexible and cumbersome a carp 
> bike is. And unlike with normal bikes, there is little interoperability. 
> Currently I give Tern and Xtracycle the highest marks for accessorie design.
> - A test ride is not enough. See if the shop will rent you the bike, ideally 
> for a week. You need to see how it fits into your life, how easy it is to do 
> various tasks, how much the kids like it, etc.
>
> Good luck!
> William

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[RBW] Re: FS: crust 1” disc fork, ti stove, Nitto grip

[Drw]

Bump and open to offers now.

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[RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[Christopher Cote]

Kind of a bummer for me. The Clem H is probably the bike I'd most likely 
want to buy from Riv now, but I'm awash in bike projects and low on bike 
funds! The timing of these kind of deals never seems to work out.

Chris


On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 12:19:12 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> Yep, just like it sounds. Here is what Grant Peterson says in his latest 
> Blahg (emphasis in bold added). If I didn't have one, I'd get one. Act now!
>
> *CLEM H's are incredible bikes, Hillybikes, All-Rounders, tourers, 
> commuters. Dialed in, super values, and they aren't selling. We're not 
> going to do them again,which seems nuts to me when I look at all the 
> mainstream bikes that do sell for more and aren't as good, but that's just 
> me.* 
>
> *Nevertheless, we're in a spot and we need to move 20 of those. Need to. 
> We have 45s for most riders up to 5-6, 52s for most riders up to 5-11, and 
> 59s for most riders up to 6-4. Complete except for saddles. This is a more 
> comfortable, useful, better designed, better riding bike than most bikes in 
> the world, and we need to sell 20. Here's an incentive: The first ten 
> people to buy one between now and the end of the month will get $750 store 
> credit.   *
>
> *If you have a Clem H, you know what a great bike it is, and don't get mad 
> that you paid more. Mourn us for having to do this and rejoice in the 
> bargain your comrades are getting. If you don't have a CLEM H, but want a 
> rough-stuff, toury-trail-towny bike, holy cow, a good time to get one.*
>
> *And all orders received on Sat and Sun (the 16th and 17th will get free 
> shipping and a $10 credit toward a future order  placed within a month.*
>
> *I hate this stuff, but this is the reality, and it's a good opportunity. 
> For those who read the BLAHG.*
>
> *We (and certainly I) have a lot to be thankful for. I don't mean to sound 
> desperate, just want to get over a hump we got here.*
>

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[RBW] Re: Rainy Day Rack Install

[J Imler]

Okay, a quick follow-up for the maybe two people who might consider this gear 
option. 

I attempted a rear rack install on the Burley Kazoo. It didn't work out. A 
normal rear rack sits too high for even extra long struts to reach the frame at 
a decent angle, if at all. 

The RackTime front rack I'm using in the pics can't use the drilled holes at 
the widest portion of the frame because of a sizing issue. The RackTime is for 
fork spacing, so using the p-clamps is what works. I put a lock washer where 
the aluminium rod meets the frame in the center, so a three point connection. 

I like the addition. It's got me thinking this could pass for a third wheel 
type touring rig pretty easy by discarding the kid cycling bits. 

Here's pics - 
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-8XNHAvEHLDQI8bx4EMbSfeRgekodKWF

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Racktop Riv bag in Large (TrunkSack, Big Loafer, etc)

[John McBurney]

Hi.

I’ve got a large trunk sack I could part with. Like new condition.

John

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 3:44 PM Reed Kennedy  wrote:

> The rear rack on my Jack Taylor tandem looks so lonely unladen. The rear
> fender requires it for support, but it seems the yearn for more.
>
> I’d like to give it a rack top bag and thus a job, a purpose.
>
> But Riv only has them in small. It is capable of so much more!
>
> Does anyone have a Big Loafer, large TrunkSack, or other bigger Riv
> racktop bag they’d be willing to part with? Happy to pay or trade at your
> preference.
>
>
> Best,
> Reed Kennedy
> San Francisco, CA
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[RBW] WTB: Racktop Riv bag in Large (TrunkSack, Big Loafer, etc)

[Reed Kennedy]

The rear rack on my Jack Taylor tandem looks so lonely unladen. The rear
fender requires it for support, but it seems the yearn for more.

I’d like to give it a rack top bag and thus a job, a purpose.

But Riv only has them in small. It is capable of so much more!

Does anyone have a Big Loafer, large TrunkSack, or other bigger Riv racktop
bag they’d be willing to part with? Happy to pay or trade at your
preference.


Best,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] 16 BOOKS FOR SALE

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LANCE ARMSTRONG -  IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BIKE

HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR CYCLING

ANDY PRUITT'S  COMPLETE MEDICAL GUIDE FOR CYCLISTS 

CYCLING - ROY ALD

INSTANT BICYCLE REPAIR  -  BICYCLING MAGAZINE

MOUNTAIN BIKES - HERMAN SEIDL

GREG Le MOND'S  - COMPLETE BOOK OF BICYLING

TRAILSIDE BICYCLING  -  TOURING + MTB  BASICS  -  PETER OLIVER

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Re: [RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[Jim Bronson]

It does seem they're going to the well quite a bit.  I don't know what it's
going to take to get the business on more solid footing but continuing to
make these sort of appeals seems like it's probably going to have
diminishing returns each time it's tried.

When the previous gen 65s went on sale for $1300 I bought one, for me that
was a good deal and I ride the bike pretty often.  It's great for the mixed
terrain riding I do often now that I live in the suburbs, whereas my other
Rivs are more or less straight roadies.

When the cash flow appeal was made, I bought some gift certificates and
never used them.

Now this current offer, while a good one, doesn't really work for me as the
biggest size is 59s and I already have a Clem H anyway.  I could buy my
wife a 45 but she doesn't ride the bike she has very much anyway.  Yea it'd
be great to have a 750$ gift certiifcate just to buy maintenance parts but
I have to assume that Rivendell would be selling the bike at cost and then
with the gift certificate I'd be picking them apart bit by bit for the next
couple of years.  I don't know how this helps the business.

I was surprised they did another run of Clem Hs anyway, it seemed like on
this list that most of the usual suspects had already gotten one.  Maybe
they sold briskly the first time around.  As the prior poster mentions, it
seems like the Ls are sold out a lot.

What would really help me more is to barter, but that don't really help
their business' cashflow.  At any rate I would love to trade my 90s Burley
Duet tandem for a 45 Clem.  I finally came to the realization that it's way
too small for the Captain. It's sitting in the garage gathering dust.  It's
25 years old and barely been ridden.

But anyway.

-Jim

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:44 PM Kolby  wrote:

> It bums me out that Riv is in this position (again) with the Clem H. To
> Grant's point, it definitely should be selling given the mainstream market.
> Meanwhile, the Clem L is perpetually out of stock despite seemingly healthy
> demand (on this list, at least) and good press.
>
> I love my Rivs and I love the brand. But man, is it just me or does the
> marketing and messaging get quirkier and more baroque every year? They
> don't make it easy for the uninitiated, at least, and this is clearly at
> odds with the growth goals of a $1600 bike such as the Clem.
>
> But now, instead of trying a new marketing tactic with the Clem, it is
> going away. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 12:19:12 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>>
>> Yep, just like it sounds. Here is what Grant Peterson says in his latest
>> Blahg (emphasis in bold added). If I didn't have one, I'd get one. Act now!
>>
>> *CLEM H's are incredible bikes, Hillybikes, All-Rounders, tourers,
>> commuters. Dialed in, super values, and they aren't selling. We're not
>> going to do them again,which seems nuts to me when I look at all the
>> mainstream bikes that do sell for more and aren't as good, but that's just
>> me.*
>>
>> *Nevertheless, we're in a spot and we need to move 20 of those. Need to.
>> We have 45s for most riders up to 5-6, 52s for most riders up to 5-11, and
>> 59s for most riders up to 6-4. Complete except for saddles. This is a more
>> comfortable, useful, better designed, better riding bike than most bikes in
>> the world, and we need to sell 20. Here's an incentive: The first ten
>> people to buy one between now and the end of the month will get $750 store
>> credit.   *
>>
>> *If you have a Clem H, you know what a great bike it is, and don't get
>> mad that you paid more. Mourn us for having to do this and rejoice in the
>> bargain your comrades are getting. If you don't have a CLEM H, but want a
>> rough-stuff, toury-trail-towny bike, holy cow, a good time to get one.*
>>
>> *And all orders received on Sat and Sun (the 16th and 17th will get free
>> shipping and a $10 credit toward a future order  placed within a month.*
>>
>> *I hate this stuff, but this is the reality, and it's a good opportunity.
>> For those who read the BLAHG.*
>>
>> *We (and certainly I) have a lot to be thankful for. I don't mean to
>> sound desperate, just want to get over a hump we got here.*
>>
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[RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

William, this is brilliant! “See if the shop will rent you the bike, ideally 
for a week. You need to see how it fits into your life, how easy it is to do 
various tasks, how much the kids like it, etc.”

Yes. Nothing beats climbing and descending your hills with your loads. You know 
them, how they feel, and there is no way to approximate that without a “week in 
the life of” to know if it works for you or not. Good luck, though, being able 
to do that. The “rental” fee for us with our cargo bike (Haul-a-day) was the 
depreciation between buying it (no way to test ride) and selling it (shipping 
both to buy and sell because, being the mountains, we are in a non-cargo bike 
friendly market) after a few years of dwindling use because it didn’t fit our 
needs as we’d imagined.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[William!]

My family has owned an Edgerunner (non-electric), Spicy Curry and now a Tern 
GSD. They are all great bikes and played a major part in allowing us to remain 
car free with two kids.

Here’s my take:
- Get something with a Bosch system. Incredibly smooth, plenty of power (no 
issues hauling adult passengers up hills) and reliable.
- The small wheel factor of the GSD takes a bit of getting used to, but it 
makes the bike far more practical for daily use. At $4k the base model GSD is 
also the best deal for a Bosch-equipped cargo bike. It is extremely well design 
- thru axels, adjustable bars, good integrated lighting and many other nice 
details.
- Pay as much attention to the accessories as you do the bike (especially if 
you plan to haul children). The racks, bags, kickstand, and platforms available 
will play a huge part in how useful, flexible and cumbersome a carp bike is. 
And unlike with normal bikes, there is little interoperability. Currently I 
give Tern and Xtracycle the highest marks for accessorie design.
- A test ride is not enough. See if the shop will rent you the bike, ideally 
for a week. You need to see how it fits into your life, how easy it is to do 
various tasks, how much the kids like it, etc.

Good luck!
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[RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[Kolby]

It bums me out that Riv is in this position (again) with the Clem H. To 
Grant's point, it definitely should be selling given the mainstream market. 
Meanwhile, the Clem L is perpetually out of stock despite seemingly healthy 
demand (on this list, at least) and good press.  

I love my Rivs and I love the brand. But man, is it just me or does the 
marketing and messaging get quirkier and more baroque every year? They 
don't make it easy for the uninitiated, at least, and this is clearly at 
odds with the growth goals of a $1600 bike such as the Clem. 

But now, instead of trying a new marketing tactic with the Clem, it is 
going away. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 12:19:12 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> Yep, just like it sounds. Here is what Grant Peterson says in his latest 
> Blahg (emphasis in bold added). If I didn't have one, I'd get one. Act now!
>
> *CLEM H's are incredible bikes, Hillybikes, All-Rounders, tourers, 
> commuters. Dialed in, super values, and they aren't selling. We're not 
> going to do them again,which seems nuts to me when I look at all the 
> mainstream bikes that do sell for more and aren't as good, but that's just 
> me.* 
>
> *Nevertheless, we're in a spot and we need to move 20 of those. Need to. 
> We have 45s for most riders up to 5-6, 52s for most riders up to 5-11, and 
> 59s for most riders up to 6-4. Complete except for saddles. This is a more 
> comfortable, useful, better designed, better riding bike than most bikes in 
> the world, and we need to sell 20. Here's an incentive: The first ten 
> people to buy one between now and the end of the month will get $750 store 
> credit.   *
>
> *If you have a Clem H, you know what a great bike it is, and don't get mad 
> that you paid more. Mourn us for having to do this and rejoice in the 
> bargain your comrades are getting. If you don't have a CLEM H, but want a 
> rough-stuff, toury-trail-towny bike, holy cow, a good time to get one.*
>
> *And all orders received on Sat and Sun (the 16th and 17th will get free 
> shipping and a $10 credit toward a future order  placed within a month.*
>
> *I hate this stuff, but this is the reality, and it's a good opportunity. 
> For those who read the BLAHG.*
>
> *We (and certainly I) have a lot to be thankful for. I don't mean to sound 
> desperate, just want to get over a hump we got here.*
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Analog Stems, Selle Anatomica, VO Cigne Stem, Sunrace Shifters, Cygolite 420 Light

[RDS]

I mounted both of them, but never did take a ride.  I've decided to keep 
the remaining one for time being just in case I need it on my next bike.  
So, all is sold for now.

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 8:20:09 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> Trying to do a little fund raising for a future purchase of a 51 Appa or 
> 53 Atlantis.  Paypal friends & family.  Contact me off list.
>
> *Sunrace Shifters* - $35 shipped to continentual USA
> *Cygolite 420 Rechargeable* $30 shipped to continental USA -- barely 
> used, but probably 2 or 3 years old
> *Analog Stem* (no extension) 31.8 w/ clear coat $130 shipped to 
> continental USA -- paid $160 this was from when first offered by analog 
> cycles
> ** installed on a bike, but never ridden with
> *Analog Stem* (30mm extension) 31.8 w/ clear coat $130 shipped to 
> continental USA -- paid $160 this was from when first offered by analog 
> cycles
> ** installed on a bike, but never ridden with
> *Velo Orange Cigne* Stem 90mm 31.8 & Quill Adapter $50 shipped to 
> continental USA -- used for 1 short ride -- quill adapter not pictured, but 
> is the same one on VO's web site
> *Selle Anatomica* (2 available) $75 Shipped to continental USA -- At 
> least 2+ years old & used -- in good condition
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=11BmE9HPchYB8INk-wUrSuTXS1SCM8Sws
>

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[RBW] Re: F.S. Large Sackville saddlesack bags, Bosco Bullmoose

[RDS]

sent PM about the Bullmoose bars.

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 10:39:03 AM UTC-4, Dylan A wrote:
>
> HI, 
>
>  I have a few things for sale OBO please don't lowball. 
>
> 1. Black large Sackcille saddlesack good condition $140 shipped.  
>
> 2. Green Large Sackville saddlesack decent condition $90 shipped. 
>
> 3. Bosco Bullmoose Handlebars mounted but never ridden $140 shipped 
>
> 4.  Sugino through axel 170 mm rd crankset and bottom bracket $60 shipped 
>
> 5. 1994 Purple Bridgestone X0-3 with upgraded parts $450 without rack/ 
> $550 with rack plus bike flights. 
>  NOS Sachs/ Mavic wheel set, NOS Avocet tires, Paul thumbies, Nitto 
> stem and seat post, map bars. 
>
>
>
>  
>
> [image: %HgCv4jzRriYALAVsFOkMg.jpg]
>  
>  
>  
>
> [image: jcmcXBctRI+haaCXkb4RuA.jpg]
>  
>
> [image: %S6Tv%OYSS6q4q9zQ8S37g.jpg]
>  
>  
>
> [image: +t9+6ljqTYSnMLhZemmKkg.jpg]
>  
>
> [image: oI3rhIh4TH6gaXxVPIqJIQ.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[Joe Bernard]

Check out this mid-drive cargo trike from Sycip Designs I found on Ely's 
Instagram. Note u-lock install on the front 👍

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvF9w3-gthr/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=zggq1gtc3loo

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[RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[Kolby]

I appreciate the replies and input. It's very helpful. Thanks!

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 10:26:31 PM UTC-4, Kolby wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> Looking for some help/feedback on the topic of cargo e-bikes -- not 
> specifically whether they are a good idea or not, but about specific 
> designs currently out there and what I should be looking for. Here's the 
> background:
>
> I'm soon moving from Brooklyn to Austin, and as I'll need a second car I 
> figured I might finally get that cargo bike I've always wanted instead. I 
> have two younger kids and will likely have a commute of 15ish miles daily. 
>
> As soon as I started looking around, I quickly realized that Bosch motors 
> are taking over the Cargo category. Even though I'd never ridden an e-bike, 
> this made sense to me. I mean, it's kinda fun hauling my kid, my gear, and 
> myself up hills on my Atlantis, but sometimes it's just joyless drudgery 
> and I'd rather be driving. So the ebike was interesting. (Several test 
> rides later and I think it's probably the best hope of getting most people 
> out of cars and onto bikes, but that's another topic! :))
>
> So I started looking at the options. It just so happens that Surly released 
> a cargo e-bike this month : The 
> Big Easy, which carries 400 pounds and goes 20 mph.
>
> My LBS had a Big Easy for test rides, so I took it out. After 30 mins I 
> was having so much fun I called to say I need another 30 mins at least. I 
> went all over my neighborhood, and on "trails" in Prospect Park. I put an 
> adult friend on the back and we easily cruised up a hill at 15 mph. It was 
> a total blast, and it had a great ride and feel in all situations--it felt 
> like one of my own. It was kind of a bone shaker, but softer tires with 
> less air would fix that, I figured.
>
> Then I started looking closer at the Surly, and I disappointment set in: 
> the kickstand isn't a double (really!?), it uses quick releases instead of 
> thru axles on a bike that hauls 400 pounds (this seems unwise, right?), and 
> the extra battery is under the bottom bracket for some reason. Even more 
> annoying, Surly, true to the name, doesn't make it easy to add a kid seat 
> or lights. That would be understandable if it were cheaper, but it's $5k -- 
> the same price as the Xtracycle eswoop and the Tern CSD, both of which come 
> with lights, fenders, etc and assume you'll likely be adding a kid seat or 
> something else like that. 
>
> Annoyed, I took the Tern and Xtracycle out for rides, but ... both had a 
> terrible ride quality IMO. I wouldn't enjoy either on a daily or even semi 
> regular basis. Mostly it's due to the fact that they only come in one size, 
> which of course just doesn't work. (The Surly comes in S, M, L.)
>
> Lastly, I took a look out a Riese and Muller (front bucket style). 
> Specifically, the Load and Packster models. They are quite expensive 
> ($7k+), however they're available used for about the price of the Surly and 
> others. They have suspension and the ride is both unfamiliar but also very 
> stable and buttery smooth. The downside of the Riese seems to be all the 
> moving parts that make the magic happen, or so it seems to me -- more 
> potential points of failure. And it also comes in just one size, which also 
> feels too small. But overall I liked it and could ride it for hours a day 
> happily, I think. 
>
> (Note: the size and kinds of cargo that can be carried by the Surly and 
> the Riese & Muller really is different, but in my case both satisfy my 
> needs sufficiently that this isn't a factor for my decision.) 
>
> So, RBW peeps, I realize that Cargo e-bikes are very UN-Riv, however, I 
> trust there are some open minded folks out there with good input or ideas 
> on how to proceed. None of these options are ideal -- far from it. But last 
> I checked Grant has no plans for a cargo e-bike, so I'm stuck with either 
> the lazy and unhelpful Surly, which requires a lot of mods but seems the 
> best platform; or the front loading Riese and Muller, which seems amazing 
> but is so different than anything I know or have had that it makes me 
> uncomfortable. 
>
> Thanks for any help
> Kolby
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[Joe Bernard]

It applies if you put the order in online by end of today (Sunday March 17, 
2019). It's part of the promotion, not a standard shipping deal. 

One caveat is I don't know how you determine if you're still one of the first 
10 to order today, there's no one there to call and ask. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Two Bicycle Belles in NV—2nd Annual Visit

[REC (Roberta)]

I'm sure it's not going to come as a surprise to anyone that Leah is as 
nice, kind, and down-to-earth as she is in her letters!   My plan is to 
work on riding hills here in mostly flat Philadelphia,  although I do live 
near the infamous Manyunk Wall that's on a famous bike race route (don't 
ask me which one; I don't know), so next year we can go on a longer ride, 
and remember to stop and take pictures!  The view in her area is beautiful 
with mountains in the distance.

One thing that I think most of us on this board share is a love of 
quality.  It might start here with bikes, but I see it with discussions of 
accessories, nature, cameras and coffee. 

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 10:37:07 AM UTC-4, Ryan Mallory Fleming 
wrote:

> Which is a refreshing change, along with your great family stories, 
> Bicycle Belle
>
> Ryan Fleming in Winnipeg,Manitoba
>
> On Friday, 15 March 2019 13:19:55 UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, All! I loved it. So fun. Roberta is a true gem and a brave woman 
>> for taking in the mountains with me. Bicycle scarves were all the rage and 
>> head tube angles and gear ratios never came up! 😂 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Mar 15, 2019, at 8:35 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Sweet meet! Delightful to experience the femine Rivendell ride through 
>> you both! 
>> > 
>> > With abandon, 
>> > Patrick 
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne build

[Adam M.]

Because of the sitting position (upright) and my weight (270 lbs.) I 
compress the springs somewhat when I sit on the saddle, but there is no 
bouncing while pedaling until I hit a bump or dip and the saddle dips a 
bit.  It is the most comfortable bicycle that I have ever ridden over 
bumps.  I contemplated getting a sprung saddle with only rear springs, but 
I am happy that I went with the one that has the front springs as well.  
This is a Cadillac on two wheels!

On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:32:38 AM UTC-7, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> It's a beautiful bike--a really nice color scheme. I LOVE that 
> saddle.  My comfort improved when I switched to a Flyer, a sprung saddle.  
> Do you bounce much with that saddle, or does it just gently soak up the 
> bumps in the road?
>
> Happy riding!
>
> Roberta
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 12:02:27 PM UTC-4, Adam M. wrote:
>
>> I built this one up over Christmas and finally took it out for a long 
>> ride last weekend.  This is my idea of a Sunday Park Rider which reminds me 
>> a lot of my Father's old restored two-speed/hub shift Schwinn with its 
>> sprung saddle and swept back handlebars.  In all I did twenty seven miles 
>> on its initial ride which seemed too comfortable to bring to an early end.  
>> While this is a dramatic departure from my "Fat Tire Fitness" Rosco Bubbe, 
>> this definitely fills one of the slots in my bicycle stable.  I was given 
>> several compliments when I stopped for tamales at a local restaurant with 
>> an outside patio as it stands out as kind of a throwback to an older style 
>> of bicycle than it truly is.  I Love the feel of steel and this is my first 
>> fully lugged bicycle since my 1983 Schwinn Traveler.  It would probably 
>> look more refined with fenders, but that would require smaller tires and I 
>> struggle to go with smaller tires as I am on the heavy side as can be 
>> determined by the ever so comfortable Brooks B-33 with its stranded chrome 
>> plated springs.
>>
>> I hope that you enjoy my new ride as I am sure to.  BTW, it will be sunny 
>> and 80 degrees today in Phoenix.  
>>
>> Cheers 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne build

[REC (Roberta)]

It's a beautiful bike--a really nice color scheme. I LOVE that saddle.  
My comfort improved when I switched to a Flyer, a sprung saddle.  Do you 
bounce much with that saddle, or does it just gently soak up the bumps in 
the road?

Happy riding!

Roberta

On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 12:02:27 PM UTC-4, Adam M. wrote:

> I built this one up over Christmas and finally took it out for a long ride 
> last weekend.  This is my idea of a Sunday Park Rider which reminds me a 
> lot of my Father's old restored two-speed/hub shift Schwinn with its sprung 
> saddle and swept back handlebars.  In all I did twenty seven miles on its 
> initial ride which seemed too comfortable to bring to an early end.  While 
> this is a dramatic departure from my "Fat Tire Fitness" Rosco Bubbe, this 
> definitely fills one of the slots in my bicycle stable.  I was given 
> several compliments when I stopped for tamales at a local restaurant with 
> an outside patio as it stands out as kind of a throwback to an older style 
> of bicycle than it truly is.  I Love the feel of steel and this is my first 
> fully lugged bicycle since my 1983 Schwinn Traveler.  It would probably 
> look more refined with fenders, but that would require smaller tires and I 
> struggle to go with smaller tires as I am on the heavy side as can be 
> determined by the ever so comfortable Brooks B-33 with its stranded chrome 
> plated springs.
>
> I hope that you enjoy my new ride as I am sure to.  BTW, it will be sunny 
> and 80 degrees today in Phoenix.  
>
> Cheers 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Buy a Clem (from Rivendel) and get a $750 store credit(!)

[gabriel luke thompson aspinwall]

Does anyone know if the free shipping applies to the Clem H deal as well?

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[RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[Lynn Haas]

I test rode a Yuba Spicy Curry a few years ago. If we ever go back down to 
one car (unlikely) that's what I would go for.

Definitely get something with a throttle. eBikes are super heavy and uphill 
starts suck.

Looks like you know what to look for, but I'll add the mention anyway - 
with eBikes, the tech is still expensive and manufacturers frequently cut 
component quality to make a price point. I personally would not consider an 
eBike with an MSRP of less than $4k.

I work at BikeTexas here in Austin. Shoot me an email when you get here and 
we can take our Atlantii and go for a beer. We seem to have a surprising 
number of Riv bikes here in town.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Dealer Enameled Steal Camp Mugs

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Yep, Alex is right - it’s a “steal” and we should all have one. Mine will 
arrive soon and will keep my RBW Redwing mug company. Thanks for a great 
product!

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[RBW] Re: FS Roadeo F/F/HS size 61cm

[Brian Campbell]

John,

I have 2001 Joe/Joe Riv custom (62cm  C-T) that is just a bit too big for 
me. It will run 32's without fenders and 28 with fenders. No provision for 
rack mounting. Very light weight. Nice shape. Let me know if that is 
something you might consider and I can send oics etc.

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:48:30 AM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I received this Roadeo frame as a trade with a fellow listmember. I've 
> decided it's a bit smaller than what I'm looking for, so I'm offering it 
> for sale.
>
> 61 cm Roadeo
> Frame, fork, and FSA headset
> No bottom bracket
>
> I'm looking for $1300 plus shipping. I'd potentially be interested in 
> trading for a 63cm Homer or Roadeo frameset, or a 62 or 64 Ram ram.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Dealer Enameled Steal Camp Mugs

[Brian Campbell]

Purchased and on its way. Thanks!

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 10:41:19 AM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> For consideration among those coffee outside, coffee inside, coffee 
> lovers, dangle-bros and bicycle enthusiasts!
>
> Enameled steel, made in Europe by a woman named Olga, dishwasher safe
>
> Replete with Riv-inspired mojo.
>
> To buy click here 
>
> To see in action click here 
>
> (That logo inside is the Rochester, NY emblem)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Alex in Rochester
> Yellow Haus Bicycles
>
>
> [image: 51076297_2016273738451739_2161930096917610496_o.jpg]
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto M12 front rack

[David Bivins]

The rack is sold!

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:35 PM David Bivins  wrote:
>
> I used this to support a Wald basket for a few years on a Civia frame.
>
> $40 shipped in continental US. Can be had for $70ish brand new online.
>
> PayPal, Venmo, cash, money order, check, whatever.

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[RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!

[Garth]

  The perfect cup o' coffee is the one in hand  ... 
  

  In hand is where Home is . Home is where the Heart is  and the 
Heart is where Love is  and Love is where Everything is Love .   With 
Love Everything , Everywhere and Everyone is the finest.


  Three cheers for Love and Love is the finest cup of All !  

  Bon Appetit Everyone !  
 
   

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Re: [RBW] Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[Eric Daume]

My experience for Surlys is that they are a platform for customizing,
moreso than any other bike I've had. So don't expect the stock spec to work
100%, but the base is good and very adaptable.

Eric
down to just one Surly at the moment

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:26 PM Kolby  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Looking for some help/feedback on the topic of cargo e-bikes -- not
> specifically whether they are a good idea or not, but about specific
> designs currently out there and what I should be looking for. Here's the
> background:
>
> I'm soon moving from Brooklyn to Austin, and as I'll need a second car I
> figured I might finally get that cargo bike I've always wanted instead. I
> have two younger kids and will likely have a commute of 15ish miles daily.
>
> As soon as I started looking around, I quickly realized that Bosch motors
> are taking over the Cargo category. Even though I'd never ridden an e-bike,
> this made sense to me. I mean, it's kinda fun hauling my kid, my gear, and
> myself up hills on my Atlantis, but sometimes it's just joyless drudgery
> and I'd rather be driving. So the ebike was interesting. (Several test
> rides later and I think it's probably the best hope of getting most people
> out of cars and onto bikes, but that's another topic! :))
>
> So I started looking at the options. It just so happens that Surly released
> a cargo e-bike this month : The
> Big Easy, which carries 400 pounds and goes 20 mph.
>
> My LBS had a Big Easy for test rides, so I took it out. After 30 mins I
> was having so much fun I called to say I need another 30 mins at least. I
> went all over my neighborhood, and on "trails" in Prospect Park. I put an
> adult friend on the back and we easily cruised up a hill at 15 mph. It was
> a total blast, and it had a great ride and feel in all situations--it felt
> like one of my own. It was kind of a bone shaker, but softer tires with
> less air would fix that, I figured.
>
> Then I started looking closer at the Surly, and I disappointment set in:
> the kickstand isn't a double (really!?), it uses quick releases instead of
> thru axles on a bike that hauls 400 pounds (this seems unwise, right?), and
> the extra battery is under the bottom bracket for some reason. Even more
> annoying, Surly, true to the name, doesn't make it easy to add a kid seat
> or lights. That would be understandable if it were cheaper, but it's $5k --
> the same price as the Xtracycle eswoop and the Tern CSD, both of which come
> with lights, fenders, etc and assume you'll likely be adding a kid seat or
> something else like that.
>
> Annoyed, I took the Tern and Xtracycle out for rides, but ... both had a
> terrible ride quality IMO. I wouldn't enjoy either on a daily or even semi
> regular basis. Mostly it's due to the fact that they only come in one size,
> which of course just doesn't work. (The Surly comes in S, M, L.)
>
> Lastly, I took a look out a Riese and Muller (front bucket style).
> Specifically, the Load and Packster models. They are quite expensive
> ($7k+), however they're available used for about the price of the Surly and
> others. They have suspension and the ride is both unfamiliar but also very
> stable and buttery smooth. The downside of the Riese seems to be all the
> moving parts that make the magic happen, or so it seems to me -- more
> potential points of failure. And it also comes in just one size, which also
> feels too small. But overall I liked it and could ride it for hours a day
> happily, I think.
>
> (Note: the size and kinds of cargo that can be carried by the Surly and
> the Riese & Muller really is different, but in my case both satisfy my
> needs sufficiently that this isn't a factor for my decision.)
>
> So, RBW peeps, I realize that Cargo e-bikes are very UN-Riv, however, I
> trust there are some open minded folks out there with good input or ideas
> on how to proceed. None of these options are ideal -- far from it. But last
> I checked Grant has no plans for a cargo e-bike, so I'm stuck with either
> the lazy and unhelpful Surly, which requires a lot of mods but seems the
> best platform; or the front loading Riese and Muller, which seems amazing
> but is so different than anything I know or have had that it makes me
> uncomfortable.
>
> Thanks for any help
> Kolby
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