Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[R Shannon]

Yes, I have similar dreams about swapping this part or that part on whichever 
bike or a custom or a. . .

It never stops does it?

Keep on dreaming!
Rich in ATL

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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Interesting info Rich, now you've got me dreaming about swapping my Sam bits 
> onto a Homer and rebuilding the Sam as an upright bike. I use the Sam for 
> long distance road riding a lot, with light loads. I know the frame is overly 
> stout for that job, but it still goes pretty well!  I'll also point it down 
> some fairly rough trails too, though.  
> 
>> On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 at 07:42:29 UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>> Zack,
>> 
>> No experience with a Roadini but a synopsis of 
>> my current Rivs:
>> 
>> MIT Homer - Lightest of the three. Now this is only a guess based on past 
>> observations from others on the list - the Homer and the Roadini frames 
>> weigh about the same. No doubt about it, the Homer rides lighter and 
>> snappier than my Sam and Atlantis. Note: for comparison my Homer and Sam 
>> have identical builds and geometry.
>> 
>> MIT Sam - Handles a good bit like the Homer but its stoutness makes it more 
>> akin to the Atlantis. In my experience what sets it apart from the Atlantis 
>> are the 650b wheels and the angles.
>> 
>> MUSA Atlantis - Size 53 with 26" wheels. The Atlantis is in a class by 
>> itself with the smaller wheels, less slack geometry, the term "planted" 
>> comes to mind, and likely different tubing from the Sam.
>> 
>> Whichever Riv you decide on, you can't go wrong.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[R Shannon]

Jason,

Thank you for the info. Nice work reshaping the fenders to fit 26” wheels. 
Tedious work!

Best,
Rich in ATL

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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Cheers Rich, the XO is running on 26x1.25 Pasela's and VO 650B 50mm 
> 'snakeskin' fenders that I've managed to squeeze down to fit the 26" pretty 
> closely.  They are also available in 26" but these were hand-me-downs. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 at 06:57:34 UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>> Jason,
>> 
>> You have a good trio of bikes. Your riding needs would appear to be well 
>> covered.
>> 
>> What is the wheel size on your XO-1? VO fenders? Thanks!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
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[RBW] WTB - Brooks Titanium Swift / Pro Saddle in Honey

[Michael / SF]

I'm on the hunt for a Brooks Swift or Pro saddle with titanium rails. 
Ideally honey leather, although I will consider brown, but definitely no 
black. I realize these have been out of production for awhile now, so I'm 
just trying my luck on the lists. I can pay you, or we can discuss trading 
Brooks saddles or other bike parts if you are looking for something 
specific. 

Let me know if you have something... cheers! 

Michael
SF / CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe:

This is such a nice offer, but my local bike shop was able to find a bolt 
to fit the post.  As much as I would like a free seat post, the long term 
solution appears to be a two-bolt seat post.  You are correct that I like 
my saddle slammed all the way back.  But again, thank you.

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[RBW] FS - Ocean Air Docena MKII - Burgundy

[Sean Steinle]

Finally time to move this bag. Used for less than a year, and not that much 
at that. Tried to capture everything in pics. Two clean holes in the back 
from mounting. The back plastic insert is creased a bit, as you can see in 
pics. 

Pics 

Looking to get $240 shipped. If this feels out of line, make an offer!

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Jason Fuller]

Interesting info Rich, now you've got me dreaming about swapping my Sam 
bits onto a Homer and rebuilding the Sam as an upright bike. I use the Sam 
for long distance road riding a lot, with light loads. I know the frame is 
overly stout for that job, but it still goes pretty well!  I'll also point 
it down some fairly rough trails too, though.  

On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 at 07:42:29 UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> Zack,
>
> No experience with a Roadini but a synopsis of 
> my current Rivs:
>
> MIT Homer - Lightest of the three. Now this is only a guess based on past 
> observations from others on the list - the Homer and the Roadini frames 
> weigh about the same. No doubt about it, the Homer rides lighter and 
> snappier than my Sam and Atlantis. Note: for comparison my Homer and Sam 
> have identical builds and geometry.
>
> MIT Sam - Handles a good bit like the Homer but its stoutness makes it 
> more akin to the Atlantis. In my experience what sets it apart from the 
> Atlantis are the 650b wheels and the angles.
>
> MUSA Atlantis - Size 53 with 26" wheels. The Atlantis is in a class by 
> itself with the smaller wheels, less slack geometry, the term "planted" 
> comes to mind, and likely different tubing from the Sam.
>
> Whichever Riv you decide on, you can't go wrong.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Michael Baquerizo]

i've seen that glue referenced before (household hogar) and just wanted to 
let everyone know that hogar is just household in spanish, hah.

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 7:10:03 PM UTC-4 Ginz wrote:

> Amazing Goop “houshold” aka “household hogar”. It is Contact cement. Cork 
> breaks up as you remove it but not terribly so. Heat gun would probably 
> help. 

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[Jason Fuller]

Cheers Rich, the XO is running on 26x1.25 Pasela's and VO 650B 50mm 
'snakeskin' fenders that I've managed to squeeze down to fit the 26" pretty 
closely.  They are also available in 26" but these were hand-me-downs. 



On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 at 06:57:34 UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> Jason,
>
> You have a good trio of bikes. Your riding needs would appear to be well 
> covered.
>
> What is the wheel size on your XO-1? VO fenders? Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Ginz]

Amazing Goop “houshold” aka “household hogar”.  It is Contact cement. Cork 
breaks up as you remove it but not terribly so. Heat gun would probably help. 

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[RBW] ISO/WTB/WTT 22.0 Stem, 26.4 and 27.0 seatpost

[Brendan Willard in SF]

For a MotoB and. a Ritchey.  LMK what you have.  Bikes ride so much better 
with seats and stems.

-Brendan Willard
Owner/Winemaker
Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

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Re: [RBW] 50cm Atlantis. 650b

[J L]

Joel,

Why not a step through frame like the Clem Smith L, Clemintine, or upcoming 
Platapus? Those bike models are not limited in use, have low stand over, and 
ability to get bars high as you need.

Jason 

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[RBW] Velocity dyad wheelset, other small parts

[gabriel luke thompson aspinwall]

Wheelset sold. Price drop on surly single speed kit $35 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 1:38:33 PM UTC-7, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> …If anyone has a solution to soften these adhesives, please share it.
>

Goo gone  is purported to work. 

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[RBW] Re: FS 59cm Bleriot frame fork headset in SF Bay Area

[Rob H.]

Sold

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:57:39 AM UTC-7 Rob H. wrote:

> Pretty 650b goodness! Takes sidepull or centerpull caliper rim brakes 
> (~65mm reach). Will fit 650b tires up to 41mm. I had 32mm Nifty Swifty's in 
> there with metal fenders.
> Asking $600. Excellent condition, local pickup or delivery only.  Pictures 
> to follow..
>
> Geometry:
> seat tube: 59cm center to top
> top tube: 57.5cm
> bb drop: 67cm
> chainstay length: 445mm
> fork rake: 50mm
> head tube angle: 71°
> seat tube angle: 72°
> top tube angle: 2°
> standover: 83.2cm
> rear dropout spacing: 135mm
>
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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Ray Varella]

Super 77 and the super 90 are permanent and you will have to pick the cork off 
in little bits to remove the grips. 

If anyone has a solution to soften these adhesives, please share it. 

Like James said, they will never slip. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Scott G.]

Plastic bags first, then some packaging stretch film, them some clear 
packing tape
to secure the stretch film. Zip tie  the pipe insulation.
I do the above routine for the seat, and shifty bits on the handlebars.
Carry the tape & film with you on the trip, you can make repairs at rest 
stops.
Think like an Egyptian Embalmer, wrap for the ages.

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-4 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> It is time to buy a small enclosed cargo trailer! 
>
> :) 
>
>
> For the saddles double plastic bag them, tape the bottom, and then put on 
> a saddle cover so the bags don't shred in the wind. They'll stay dry that 
> way. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Every year I point the van north and drive from Vegas to small town North 
>> Dakota, and the lakes country of Minnesota. And every year I drag 3-4 bikes 
>> along with us on a Saris rack. I’ve gone through several different bikes in 
>> the past several years (the kids are growing, I switched to That Clem Life, 
>> etc) so I’ve never found an exact formula to make the bikes fit perfectly. 
>> This year I hauled my new ln 52 cm Clementine (2019 geo), the 
>> old 1st gen 52 cm blue Clem H, #theClemRider’s  little 45 cm 2018 Clem H, 
>> and Baby Bear’s 24 inch Specialized Hot Rock.
>>
>> I never regret bringing my bikes, but I do admit I lament that they come 
>> back to Vegas in poorer condition than when they left. We always get caught 
>> in a rainstorm at some point, and usually more than once. After that I 
>> always notice creaking where there hadn’t been, rust on the heads of bolts 
>> or inside the braze-ons. I usually have new scuffs from the bikes knocking 
>> together on the rack, dirt and grit where I hadn’t had it before. One year 
>> I drove to a shooting range on 20 miles’ worth of gravel roads and the 
>> bikes were completely trashed at a level you can’t fathom. The Betty Foy 
>> (now sold) had a permanent ugly mark on the top tube where the arm bar of 
>> the rack had mashed the cable into the paint.
>>
>> You would think I would learn and get this dialed in but I never really 
>> do. This year was really something - when was the last time you tried to 
>> get 3 Rivendells with Bosco bars on a rack? Boscos don’t play nicely. Three 
>> of 4 of the bikes had baskets, and all 4 had racks. Yeah, nightmare.
>>
>> So, this vacation I have discovered new ways to damage my bikes. I’ll 
>> provide the photos and explanations in the next post...
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe:

Because I rode my bike to work when the original bolt broke.  It broke just 
as i was pulling in so I had to jury rig a replacement to get home.  The 
fix seemed to work and so I never got around to replacing it.  The two 
breaks were about a year apart.  Since the bolt sheared off twice in the 
same manner I originally thought it might have something to due with my 
saddle placement or other factors.

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[RBW] PSA: 61cm Heron Touring on SF CL

[Greg J]

I hope this isn't against the rules here.

There's a clean, nice Heron touring on the SF CL.   My recollection is that 
the colored Heron decal is from the era after Riv sold the rights to 
someone else (maybe it was Todd K).

Anyhow, no relationship with the seller, etc.

Greg
Oakland, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Steve Palincsar]

And when you've reached your destination, you can use that pool noodle 
as a 3' traffic clearance standoff. You can't do that with pipe insulation.


On 7/14/20 2:43 PM, Evan E. wrote:

Leah:

I second what RichS said about pool noodles as frame-tube cushions. 
While pipe insulation works well, hollow pool noodles are even better 
because they're slightly more firm and also thicker than pipe 
insulation. Can be used many times. They cost more than pipe 
insulation, but bikes are worth it, right?


One source:

https://foamnoodles.com/products/black-foam-noodle?variant=28601706193=EAIaIQobChMIrIDz0rHN6gIVUvDACh3-8QcsEAQYASABEgJB7vD_BwE

Evan
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Re: [RBW] Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And you can use them in the hotel at the pool when you go on vacation!

--Eric Norris
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YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Evan E.  wrote:
> 
> Leah:
> 
> I second what RichS said about pool noodles as frame-tube cushions. While 
> pipe insulation works well, hollow pool noodles are even better because 
> they're slightly more firm and also thicker than pipe insulation. Can be used 
> many times. They cost more than pipe insulation, but bikes are worth it, 
> right? 
> 
> One source:  
> 
> https://foamnoodles.com/products/black-foam-noodle?variant=28601706193=EAIaIQobChMIrIDz0rHN6gIVUvDACh3-8QcsEAQYASABEgJB7vD_BwE
>  
> 
> 
> Evan
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[RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Evan E.]

Leah:

I second what RichS said about pool noodles as frame-tube cushions. While 
pipe insulation works well, hollow pool noodles are even better because 
they're slightly more firm and also thicker than pipe insulation. Can be 
used many times. They cost more than pipe insulation, but bikes are worth 
it, right? 

One source:  

https://foamnoodles.com/products/black-foam-noodle?variant=28601706193=EAIaIQobChMIrIDz0rHN6gIVUvDACh3-8QcsEAQYASABEgJB7vD_BwE

Evan

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[RBW] Re: FS: 66cm Blue Rambouillet - Complete

[Reid Echols]

Oof, if this weren’t a functional twin to my 67 Homer I’d be mighty 
tempted. Great price, great bike! 

Reid in Austin 

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 10:10:04 AM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
>
> Attn: tall riders! I’m reluctantly offering a rare, blue 66cm Rambouillet 
> for sale. It comes complete (I’m not interested in parting out), as seen in 
> the photos, except I’m keeping the pedals. It’s a classic build with 
> noodles, cross levers, 120mm stem, and 32mm Paselas on Araya rims. 
>
> Photos here: https://flickr.com/photos/38306928@N00/sets/72157715097136002 
>
> This bike was clearly well cared for by the previous owner and seems to 
> have few miles. I’ve certainly ridden it sparingly and have always kept it 
> garaged. There are a few spots where touch up paint has been applied, but 
> overall it presents as a beautiful bicycle in fabulous condition, 
> especially given its age. Plenty of life left on the rims. No issues. 
>
> These 66cm Rams are rare. They only show up intermittently in frame charts 
> of that time period and I suspect that relatively few were made. I’ll 
> include a Rambouillet booklet with the sale. 
>
> I’m asking $1300 plus packing/shipping via Bike Flights CONUS. PayPal F 
> preferred. 
>
> Please reach out with questions, 
>
> Isaac in Portland, OR

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Joe Bernard]

The correct bolt should thread into the top half of the saddle-rail sandwich. 
What is the reason for the nut you're using?

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[christian poppell]

Hi Patrick,

Tires are 35mm. 38mm tires fit but the pinch point is between the top of 
the tire and the underside of the brake (Shimano BR-6500). 

Saddle to bar drop is almost nil. I'd prefer around 3 cm as its hard to 
stay on the hoods while climbing out of the saddle.

Two curious things about the bike are the placement of the pump peg and the 
lack of a chain hanger. Its almost like the pump peg was placed with a 
level top tube in mind. There's about 1cm of a gap between the top of the 
pump and the bottom of the top tube. The rear seat stay also lacks a chain 
hanger which I prefer when taking the rear wheel out. 

Still getting used to the bike and dialing everything in. Indexing has been 
a slight pain up front with a modern derailer and TA rings. If I had an 
extra derailer, the front would be friction on the downtube. It works OK 
for now though. Still getting everything sorted out. 

Patrick, that Matthews is a nice bike and I'm sure with those wide tire's 
its well suited to your area. Those 60mm tires would still be fun around 
here in the hard packed fire roads. 

Christian
Berkeley, CA

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 5:12:38 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Lovely! That early Ram orange inspired my own choice of Molteni orange for 
> a to-be-refurbished early '70s road frame (which, incidentally, will take 
> slightly wider tires than even my erstwhile blue-paint-era Ram).
>
> Just how wide are the tires pictured?
>
> Man! When I see firm dirt surfaces like those shown, I seethe with envy. 
> 'Round heah, the soil is very sandy -- ex-river-silt -- so that anything 
> under 50 mm -- and 60 is far better than 50 -- is a lost cause, at least in 
> high, dry-soil summer. I'd love to equip a road bike with 38 mm tires and 
> ride it on firm dirt. As it is, I have the 60 mm (actual) Matthews and, 
> well, the new (26") 42 mm Matthews for cold weather, hard surface, off 
> pavement riding.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:47 PM christian poppell  > wrote:
>
>> Purchased this Ram last year with the intent for it to be a road bike but 
>> found that I enjoy riding it off road as well! Got in a good loop through 
>> the Berkeley hills, 14 mi and 2,1000' climbing. Nice way to spend a few 
>> hours on a Saturday, even if that includes changing a flat.
>>
>> Christian
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 9:01:49 PM UTC-7, Grady Wright wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks! It's a 60cm. I'm using the Sycip JJJ Bar and the Silver 2 
>>> shifters. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:41:30 UTC-6, J Schwartz wrote:

 Very nice build 
 Is that a 54cm or a 57cm?  Albatross bars? and what are you using for 
 shifters there?

 On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-4, Grady Wright wrote:
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> Finally built up my Appaloosa! it's as good as I remember it being 
> when I tested one at RivBike.
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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you everyone, that's a big help!

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I actually have the nitto 65 post on the bike.  I took it by my local bike 
store this morning and they replaced the bolt. 

I'm thinking the first break was a freak accident and the second was caused 
by me fixing it with a substandard bolt.  Thanks for the responses 
everyone.  Hopefully, this one will hold.

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[RBW] Re: FS Oveja Negra Superwedgie framebag large slate grey

[Bruce Smitham]

The bag is sold

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 5:48:28 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> New Oveja Negra Superwedgie Frame Bag- large in slate grey. Purchased on 
> their sale or super seconds for $83 from original $100 price. Nothing wrong 
> with it and never installed. $65 plus $5 shipping CONUS or free local pick 
> up. Thanks, Bruce in San Diego

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[RBW] Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Surlyprof]

Beausage is historical and liberating.  Now that your bikes have some, you can 
ride harder, go places you might not have gone before and worry less.  That’s 
liberating.

An amazing craftsperson I know, whose furniture goes for thousands of dollars, 
told me that he expects and hopes his furniture displays every nick and ding as 
a historical record of the events that occurred around it.  I was reminded of 
this when I was in Japan refinishing the first table I had ever built.  I saw a 
deep scratch in the top and remembered that it had happened the first week of 
the table’s life when the most wonderful dog I’ve ever known heard a clap of 
thunder.  He leapt off the floor, pushed off the top of the table with his back 
claw and ran to his favorite hiding place in the back of the house.  The dog 
passed several years before and I’ve always missed him.  When I told my friend, 
who had known him when he was alive, that story, she asked that I not sand out 
that gouge.

My advice would be to view those scratches differently.  Rather than beating 
yourself up for a lack of bike packing prowess, reminisce about the time you 
spent in Yellowstone with your family and the torrential storm you drove 
through in Montana during that year’s vacation.  You don’t get a repeat of that.

Viva la beausage!

John
Niles, CA (where we rarely get to see real thunderstorms like I loved during my 
midwestern childhood)

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks C17 saddle, brown

[Jim S.]

this sold, thanks.

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 3:20:19 PM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>
> bump. $70 shipped.
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 11:11:29 AM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> Very very slight use. The rails show that it has been mounted.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/iqGeUMQY32Pd9abr8
>>
>> $78 plus $10 shipping.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Leah:

You might try applying some “helicopter tape” around the tubes that got scraped 
up. Helicopter tape will help prevent damage, but it also works after the fact 
to cover up an put a glossy surface over the scrapes. 

Here’s an option in a 2” width: 3M Scotchgard Clear Bra Paint Protection Bulk 
Film Roll 2"-by-48"-inches 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTUFXJ2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_00CdFbJXVRFDJ 

Just take care applying it and it will stay on forever.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
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Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 10:32 PM, masmojo  wrote:
> Leah, don't sweat it too much, but do what you can to minimize the damage, 
> just having a bike (or bikes) on a vacation is such a special treat, one that 
> you only get by driving.
> My son and I drove to California a couple years ago, took our bikes and had a 
> great time riding in Santa Fe, Sedona, Fresno & Fairfax (Repack) those 
> experiences are priceless when compared to a little wear & tear.
> I agree with the irony of the Rivendell experience; buy a beautiful (& 
> expensive) bike and then let it kind of go. I think if you can afford to 
> spend $1,600+ on a bike splashing for a new set of $12 grips shouldn't be a 
> big issue, no need to make some out of twine and some pieces of felt. I enjoy 
> it when Grant does that kind of thing, but I have built up a selection of 
> grips over the years and I'll try swapping them out from time to time, but I 
> am not making my own out of felt scraps. :-)
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[RBW] Re: FS: Randi Jo Fabrications Jeff 'n Joan's Bag, Flannel Blanket

[Jim S.]

this bag is sold, thank you.

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:27:20 PM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>
> This is the perfect bag to mount to your Jones H-Bar.
>
> Very little use, very good condition.
>
> Here are photos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZkWDTXNHJYouTcu16
>
> Here's a product description:
>
> https://www.randijofab.com/collections/bags/products/jeffs-joans-bar-bag
>
> Price is $65 shipped.
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 58cm

[Jan O.]

Still looking for a 58cm Hunqapillar Frameset. Please pm me if you have one 
you'd like to sell. Thanks you.


Jan

San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] FS: 66cm Blue Rambouillet - Complete

[Birdman]

Attn: tall riders! I’m reluctantly offering a rare, blue 66cm Rambouillet for 
sale. It comes complete (I’m not interested in parting out), as seen in the 
photos, except I’m keeping the pedals. It’s a classic build with noodles, cross 
levers, 120mm stem, and 32mm Paselas on Araya rims. 

Photos here: https://flickr.com/photos/38306928@N00/sets/72157715097136002

This bike was clearly well cared for by the previous owner and seems to have 
few miles. I’ve certainly ridden it sparingly and have always kept it garaged. 
There are a few spots where touch up paint has been applied, but overall it 
presents as a beautiful bicycle in fabulous condition, especially given its 
age. Plenty of life left on the rims. No issues.

These 66cm Rams are rare. They only show up intermittently in frame charts of 
that time period and I suspect that relatively few were made. I’ll include a 
Rambouillet booklet with the sale.

I’m asking $1300 plus packing/shipping via Bike Flights CONUS. PayPal F 
preferred.

Please reach out with questions,

Isaac in Portland, OR

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Patrick Moore]

+1 for getting a well-reviewed new seatpost, like this one Rivendell sells;
well, they're out of stock, but the shorter version is available on Amazon
and eBay. (I think that the Ritchey post is the same thing as the Nitto
S65.)

Despite my natural talent for overtightening things (just snapped an
admittedly lightweight seatpost collar the other day) I've never broken one
of these. And grease the bolt before installation!

https://www.amazon.com/S65-NITTO-Seat-Post/dp/B004YA7DNE?th=1=1

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/NITTO-67-28-6mm-Seat-Post-Vintage-MTB-Ritchey-SILVER-T3/254613513036?hash=item3b4825e34c:g:Dy4AAOSwIFJe1ABp

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Arthur Mayfield]

>From your photo, it looks like you have a B-67 saddle (sprung, one clamping 
rail, one support rail). If I’m wrong and you have one of the double 
clamping rail saddles like the B-66, you’re using the wrong kind of seat 
post. If it’s in fact a B-67, the seat post is correct, but the bolt is 
wrong. It should be a hex/Allen head metric bolt with a washer, not 
something with a nut. I suspect that the original bolt was lost and an 
SAE/US bolt was forced/cross-threaded into the top of the clamp, with a nut 
added to tighten it. I would only do that in an emergency where the only 
bolt available was SAE and I was a long way from home, realizing that I’d 
ruined my seat post and would need to replace it as soon as possible. 
Either way, you should have a bicycle mechanic look at your bike and 
install a new post that matches your seat design.

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[RichS]

Jim,

That's a super clean and well appointed Roadini. One of the nicest I've 
seen. Congratulations on your first Rivendell!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:46:41 AM UTC-4, Jim Plaugher wrote:
>
> Hi folks! I'd like to properly introduce myself and tell the story of my 
> first Rivendell, a 58 Roadini. 
>  I have been a long time listener to this group, but for many years, 
> bicycling has meant commutng year round in the midwest, on my modified Fuji 
> MTB, a bike I used think had a long wheelbase! As a Rivendell member in the 
> days when the "Reader" was on paper, I enjoyed  Grant's writings 
> celebrating the practicalness of bikes, usefulness of saddlebags and his 
> encouragement to prioritize comfort. I enjoy reading all of Grant's 
> writings and I enjoy reading the posts to this group. You are all so 
> expressive with words! I hope it rubs off on me, as I would like to be 
> better at writing. 
> For the last year I have been living in North East Iowa on top of a bluff 
> with 2.5 miles of a steep gravel road before I hit the scenic paved highway 
> along the Mississippi River. So the Roadini in the picture is nice and 
> clean as it is not my first choice when I head out the door. 26X2.00 feels 
> safer to me than 700X35C on the gravel. But the Leo is really nice to ride, 
> once on the highway! 
> I am sentimental about some bike components and often remember the history 
> of parts I have traded. This bike has a Phil Wood front hub my family gave 
> me for Christmas.The rear is a 40H first generation Phil freewheel hub with 
> radial lacing on the none-drive side. It came from trading parts from a 
> Peugeot PX1O. I gave up the sewup wheels in favor of parts,I considered to 
> be more practical. The  noodle bars and the Shimano 600 cranks also came 
> from the Peugeot. So now I have a bike with a frame from Rivendell, not 
> just various parts. I enjoy experiencing the Rivendell design through 
> riding, and not just reading! I hope to contrbute to conversations in the 
> future. 
> Jim in Lansing Iowa

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[James / Analog Cycles]

Super 77 spray glue.   Way less expansive than Gorilla Glue.  Wait for it 
to set up for 30 seconds then slip on.  Some will squirt out, just have a 
rag handy.  You need a good coating, but that's any glue.  We have glued 
hundreds of grips on using that spray glue.  Never slips.  

-James / Analog Cycles



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>   Do you have a favorite adhesive you use to keep them from rotating?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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[RBW] Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Paul Clifton]

At one point Riv suggested some like permatex gasket stuff. Its great! It holds 
the grips in place and I've been able to break them free and reuse them twice 
now. I'll take a photo later if needed but it's at the auto parts store.

Paul in AR

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[James / Analog Cycles]

Looks to me like an aftermarket hardware store bolt, which would have 
dubious strength.  Also 1 bolt posts are known for failure.  The fix is 
expensive but simple.  A Nitto Jaguar or S83 seatpost, with original 
bolts.  I've sold hundreds, never seen a failure.  
Also make sure the saddle is centered on the clamp.  Pushing it back adds 
leverage, and can lead to failure.  

-James / Analog Cycles 

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> So I am minding my own business, out for my evening ride on my Appaloosa, 
> when the saddle came off.  I didn't crash but it was not fun.  The bolt was 
> completely sheared off.  But the weird thing is, the same thing happened to 
> me a year ago.  Any idea as to why this keeps happening?  The saddle is a 
> Brooks 67.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valuating modified 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel custom frame FS

[Patrick Moore]

Steve: I see that you emailed the list about the frameset a couple of weeks
ago, so please forgive the caution. There is one person in line ahead of
you; if he doesn't like the $750 shipped price, it is yours if you want it.
I'll give the OP another day.

Thanks, Patrick

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[RBW] Re: My New Atlantis

[☆ Paul ☆]

Hi Doug.

I'm pretty set up with bikes for the moment, but I'm trying to sort out if 
an older (horizontal top-tube) 56cm Atlantis will fit my friend, who is 
5'10-ish.

P

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 12:45:01 AM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> Paul:
>
> Thanks for the chainguard info.  I'll look into it.
>
> Not sure what the max tire size with fenders is.  The Toyos were rated at 
> 52 mm for 700c (58 cm & up) and 2.1 for 26" (56 cm & below), but no mention 
> of whether that was with fenders.  I've had 45 mm Schwalbe Marathon 
> Supremes on with fenders and still had clearance.  Tires vary so much in 
> actual size it's hard to make an educated guess.  
>
> What size is the one you are looking at?
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> It's interesting, because a lot of long wheelbase bikes have too much 
>> rake up front, which makes the front feel kind of sloggy. The new Atlantis 
>> has a tight enough rake, just a long rear end, and so it still feels 
>> relatively agile. Very cleverly done.
>>
>> What is the max tire size on your older Atlantis with fenders? I've seen 
>> those and they look so nice. There's an amazing black one for sale right 
>> now on eBay. 
>>
>> The crank is a New Albion w/ 42T.  Actually, it comes stock as a 42/33 
>> but I just took off the small chainring. It's great because it has a bash 
>> guard built in (you have to flip the guard around if you want to run it as 
>> a 1x to give more clearance) and also because it's really a Sugino crank 
>> (comes out of the same mold as the XD2 I think). If you use a 36/12 
>> cassette as a 1x9 or 1x10 you're pretty much dialed unless you're really 
>> mountain biking crazy rough terrain. You can get it from Soma.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:48:57 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Paul:
>>>
>>> BTW, the 1 x 10 is not unusual.  If it does what you need done, it's 
>>> right for you.  Long ago, Grant said something to the effect that a bike 
>>> frame was just a place to hang all the parts you need for what you want to 
>>> do with your bike.  I doubt there are too many Rivendells out there that 
>>> are duplicates.
>>>
>>> What chainguard are you using?  It gives the bike a nice, clean look.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:46:18 AM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everyone. I'm new-is here.

 Almost finished building up my new Atlantis MIT and thought I'd share 
 it. *What does MIT stand for, anyway?*

 Finally coming to the realization that a really upright geometry makes 
 me happiest. Being a bit slower, I force my friends to slow down too and 
 conversation is the result.

 A little bit unconventionally for a Rivendell (I think?) I mounted a 
 1x10 SRAM drivetrain, which works brilliantly on this frame. Also took The 
 Deacon's advice and put the lovely Berthoud Mente saddle on, and committed 
 to ride the brick till it's comfortable... but a few days ago I chickened 
 out and dunked it in a bucket of warm water and put on lots of mink oil 
 (scary advice from the Internet, but WTF)... and it worked! Already 
 super-comfy.

 Still waiting on VO fenders, and a Nitto seatpost to match the stem. 
 The new G-One Speed tires are amazing, these are 50C and they roll so 
 fast, 
 like much smaller tires. 

 Having trouble posting more than one image, will put-up more upon 
 request.

 (PS: I finished a very similar build on a twin-top-tube Sam Hillborne 
 for a charity auction, and I ended up buying it myself, long story. It's a 
 little too big and I may put up for sale at some point soon... will post 
 when I do.)

 I love the positivity on this forum. Much love to everyone, 

 Paul

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[RBW] Re: Was the Hunqapillar designed for Albatross bars?

[Marc Irwin]

The Bosco Bars came the year following the Hunq.  I bought my Hunq, rode it 
for a year and ABSOLUTELY had to have a lighter version of the same 
geometry, so I ordered a Hillborne.  The first Bosco shipment was coming at 
the same time as my Hillborne frame so I added those to the order.  After 
riding the Hillborne with the Bosco's and the Hunq with wide drop bars for 
a season, I added Bullmoose Bosco's to the Hunq and lived happily ever 
after.  The Bosco's absolutely confound club riders when they see my 
Hillborne at charity rides, it's hilarious.

Marc


On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:56:30 AM UTC-4, Ryan M. wrote:
>
> I think the bosco bars came after the Hunq, so I don’t believe the bike 
> was designed for those. 
>
> In the Riv video that Jay Richey made that featured the Hunqapillar he was 
> riding it with albatross bars. I think the bike would also do great with a 
> set of bullmoose bars.

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[RichS]

Zack,

No experience with a Roadini but a synopsis of 
my current Rivs:

MIT Homer - Lightest of the three. Now this is only a guess based on past 
observations from others on the list - the Homer and the Roadini frames 
weigh about the same. No doubt about it, the Homer rides lighter and 
snappier than my Sam and Atlantis. Note: for comparison my Homer and Sam 
have identical builds and geometry.

MIT Sam - Handles a good bit like the Homer but its stoutness makes it more 
akin to the Atlantis. In my experience what sets it apart from the Atlantis 
are the 650b wheels and the angles.

MUSA Atlantis - Size 53 with 26" wheels. The Atlantis is in a class by 
itself with the smaller wheels, less slack geometry, the term "planted" 
comes to mind, and likely different tubing from the Sam.

Whichever Riv you decide on, you can't go wrong.

Best,
Rich in ATL 


On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:47:40 AM UTC-4, Zack Medow wrote:
>
> RBW Owners Bunch I need your help!
>
> I'm looking to venture into the world of my first Rivendell/Bridgestone. 
>
> I'm at an impasse right now. I'm thinking of putting in an order for a 
> Roadini and set it up with the new Shikoro 38mm tires Riv is carrying. But 
> there's also a mint condition XO-1 right now on eBay in my size. 
>
> I'm going to be using this bike for road and city riding, maybe some very 
> light grav grav. I have a Jones for a trail bike, so that's not really a 
> concern. My goal is to find a supple steel bike that fits a wider tire 
> without resorting to a disc break and the stiff fork that comes with it. 
>
> Which one would you go for?? Is this a silly comparison?? 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Low

[Tim Rogers]

Here's a few pics of my accessories

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VsFS3uiTpzWdVs-r1FA0jA_SJtU9C_pI?usp=sharing

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Re: [RBW] This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Rob Kristoff]

Am I seeing a second saddle rail? If so, wouldnt that require a special 
clamping mechanism? (See Brooks B66 on their page).

I have no experience with sprung saddles like this, but it looks like it would 
put a lot of pressure on that one bolt.

Rob

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[RichS]

Pool noodles also work well for wrapping frames. And they're Riv approved.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:10:31 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
>
> I recommended this last time beausage came up, either here or IBOB:. I 
> suspect Meguiar's #2 Fine Cut Clean 
>  
> will remove much of that scrape on the Junior Clem Junior. You might follow 
> up with a polish. Or start with a slightly courser cleaner if this doesn't 
> do the trick. 
>
> I don't use it much, as I am a beausage aficionado. But I get it for new 
> bikes, and being banged around while not actually performing their bikely 
> duties. And kids bikes. I baby my kid's WOOM 6. But that's partly so I can 
> sell it for a decent price when he grows out of it. (He is currently 6" 
> taller than the average 10-year-old, so it won't be long now...)
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[R Shannon]

Jason,

You have a good trio of bikes. Your riding needs would appear to be well
covered.

What is the wheel size on your XO-1? VO fenders? Thanks!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:22 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Here is my trio at present - the Hillborne got out for a nice loop
> yesterday, my Clem is now on Rat Traps in endurance casing, and my XO-1 is
> now set up as a quick city bike (with temp pedals and chainring)
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Re: [RBW] This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Mark Roland]

Ann--did both times involve the same seat post brand and model? If so, what 
was it? I assume the bolt and nut are original equipment. The fact that the 
bolt tightens with a regular nut would indicate a cheaper model--or an old 
seat post, which is not the case here. Its there something between the nut 
and the top clamp other than a washer that "locks" it down?

If you still want to use this post, I would recommend getting the strongest 
grade replacement bolt  you can find--hard to know from a photo, but that 
bolt looks cheap.

I have never heard of or seen this bolt break in 40 plus years of heavy 
cycling involvement. If it were me, I would stay away from seat posts that 
use a nut like that, and instead choose a model where the threads engaging 
the bolt are integral to the top part of the clamp, or at least interface 
with it more securely--some have a kind of oblong threaded piece that 
securely nestles into the top of the clamp. If nothing else, this will 
reflect a higher quality post overall.

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:10:35 AM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> It's (2).  I installed and tightened the bolt.
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have tried several times to attach a picture but it's not coming through.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Mark Roland]

I recommended this last time beausage came up, either here or IBOB:. I 
suspect Meguiar's #2 Fine Cut Clean 
 
will remove much of that scrape on the Junior Clem Junior. You might follow 
up with a polish. Or start with a slightly courser cleaner if this doesn't 
do the trick. 

I don't use it much, as I am a beausage aficionado. But I get it for new 
bikes, and being banged around while not actually performing their bikely 
duties. And kids bikes. I baby my kid's WOOM 6. But that's partly so I can 
sell it for a decent price when he grows out of it. (He is currently 6" 
taller than the average 10-year-old, so it won't be long now...)



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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I installed the bolt.  Here is a picture.

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Brian Campbell]

The super glue. I haven't timed myself but sliding a grip on  does not take 
45 seconds. Also the working time is an estimate.

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:12:34 PM UTC-4, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Hi Brian, 
>
>Do you mean the clear Gorilla Glue, or the clear Gorilla Super Glue. 
> The super glue says it only gives you 10-45 seconds of working time.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:55:07 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Piece of cloth tape on the handle bar and some Gorilla brand Super Glue. 
>> Not the kind the expands as it dries. 
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 1:19:26 PM UTC-4, John Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>   Do you have a favorite adhesive you use to keep them from rotating?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Ryan M.]

That bike got to me in great shape packaged like that, Joe. That pipe 
insulation does work.

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Nick Payne]

On Tuesday, 14 July 2020 11:07:28 UTC+10, Ann L wrote:
>
> So I am minding my own business, out for my evening ride on my Appaloosa, 
> when the saddle came off.  I didn't crash but it was not fun.  The bolt was 
> completely sheared off.  But the weird thing is, the same thing happened to 
> me a year ago.  Any idea as to why this keeps happening?  The saddle is a 
> Brooks 67.
>

Sounds like you should get a two bolt rather than a one bolt seatpost. The 
saddle is held firmly in position without either bolt having to be done up 
as tightly as with a single bolt saddle clamp.




Nick


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[RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Julian Westerhout]

It is time to buy a small enclosed cargo trailer! 

:) 


For the saddles double plastic bag them, tape the bottom, and then put on a 
saddle cover so the bags don't shred in the wind. They'll stay dry that 
way. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Every year I point the van north and drive from Vegas to small town North 
> Dakota, and the lakes country of Minnesota. And every year I drag 3-4 bikes 
> along with us on a Saris rack. I’ve gone through several different bikes in 
> the past several years (the kids are growing, I switched to That Clem Life, 
> etc) so I’ve never found an exact formula to make the bikes fit perfectly. 
> This year I hauled my new ln 52 cm Clementine (2019 geo), the 
> old 1st gen 52 cm blue Clem H, #theClemRider’s  little 45 cm 2018 Clem H, 
> and Baby Bear’s 24 inch Specialized Hot Rock.
>
> I never regret bringing my bikes, but I do admit I lament that they come 
> back to Vegas in poorer condition than when they left. We always get caught 
> in a rainstorm at some point, and usually more than once. After that I 
> always notice creaking where there hadn’t been, rust on the heads of bolts 
> or inside the braze-ons. I usually have new scuffs from the bikes knocking 
> together on the rack, dirt and grit where I hadn’t had it before. One year 
> I drove to a shooting range on 20 miles’ worth of gravel roads and the 
> bikes were completely trashed at a level you can’t fathom. The Betty Foy 
> (now sold) had a permanent ugly mark on the top tube where the arm bar of 
> the rack had mashed the cable into the paint.
>
> You would think I would learn and get this dialed in but I never really 
> do. This year was really something - when was the last time you tried to 
> get 3 Rivendells with Bosco bars on a rack? Boscos don’t play nicely. Three 
> of 4 of the bikes had baskets, and all 4 had racks. Yeah, nightmare.
>
> So, this vacation I have discovered new ways to damage my bikes. I’ll 
> provide the photos and explanations in the next post...
>
>
>

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