[RBW] Re: Swappable handlebar setup

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice setup!
Tell us about the decaleur on the bars: Did you create it and machine it? 
Looks like each set of bars has its own decaleur.
And, what sort of bag and mounting method are you using with it?
Thanks,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:53:34 PM UTC-8 brettjc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Link to album  since groups 
> won't let me post photos
>
>  I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in 
> the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill 
> mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon 
> units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the 
> bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger 
> in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable 
> faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not 
> having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them 
> wearing prematurely or weakening.  
>
> Brett in PDX
>

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Re: [RBW] The “Is It Normal Or Is It Broken” New Bike Game!

[Leah Peterson]

These are great responses and I actually laughed in my bed. I’m so glad I’m not 
alone.

Matthew - I knew I was hearing more than one sound! Glad you confirmed it. 
Wondering if I dare share your suggestions with the shop. I’m definitely 
sharing the video.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> Of course! Many times! And worse than rubbing: major things wrong with the 
> new build: the front derailleur won't shift to the small ring (stupidly 
> installed crank on far too long bb spindle; learned something!*), the rear 
> derailleur rubs on spokes before shifting to the big cog (that one still 
> puzzles me, but I got another rd to work), fenders turn out to be too narrow 
> for tires (learned what "65" really means with SKS P65s), custom rear rack 
> sways like a cobra under weight of 12-pack (well, that was just a bad design 
> -- solution: pay for new rear rack), front low riders came without bottom 
> attachments (ditto, but usable for light loads on smooth roads), can't get 
> rear derailleur to perfectly index (7 speed XT; gave up indexing for over 20 
> years, not kidding), etc etc etc over 50+ years of tinkering on bikes. 
> 
> I recall the hurt frustration with my very first from-scratch build, when no 
> brake known to man would fit the bike; Indian rod braked roadster frame meant 
> for 635 mm bead set diameter rims built up with 622 bsd 700C rim in rear and 
> 24" wheel in front. I really didn't know that you needed to match wheel size 
> to frame. Rode it on dangerous hilly roads with freehweel and no brake except 
> jamming right Ked onto front tire, survived, special Providence that watches 
> over fools and Americans.
> 
> Live and learn is the lesson.
> 
> *I fondly recall the look of contempt on the bike shop mechanic when I 
> plaintively explained the problem.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:09 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> ... What I want to know if if the rest of you experience this agony.
> 
> 
> 
>> All I want to do is just ride my raspberry Platypus. I have goals, a 3,000 
>> mile one for 2020, in fact, and I am 17.1 miles from reaching it. But 
>> instead of basking in that, I have been riding around stressed out by all 
>> the new sounds/ticks/rubs/whirs that my new bike is making. Add to that the 
>> extra stress of not having the capability to fix things myself, which means 
>> a 40 minute drive across town to the bros at the shop, who now know me on a 
>> first name basis. Embarrassing.
>> 
>> Let me be clear - Rivendell built the perfect frame. It’s getting all these 
>> parts and wiring and fenders and gears to work, that’s the problem.
>> 
>> I tell you, I remember this with the Clem, too. I could tell it was a great 
>> bike, so much fun to ride, not that I was having much fun... I was riding 
>> around, swerving, with my head cocked analyzing foreign sounds and 
>> vibrations coming from this strange beast beneath me. Maybe the shop 
>> installed stuff wrong, I’d think (which was the case more than once). Maybe 
>> something has come loose and the bike is about to fall apart beneath me, I’d 
>> think. But the Clem got all ironed out and became perfect and now here I am 
>> at ground zero again with this pretty Platypus.
>> 
>> Today I went 22 miles, but not without complications. Both the Clem and the 
>> Platypus have something rubbing. I rode around on the Platypus in bad form 
>> leaning my ear to hear - “Is that one sound or two sounds?” “Is that rubbing 
>> or a strange vibrating?” “Is this what the Schmidt dyno hub sounds like? I 
>> don’t think my Shutter Precision makes this sound.” “Maybe it’s the fender.” 
>> “What if the tape is coming off the dyno wiring?” “I think that screw is too 
>> close!”  Lastly, the stem started clicking when I apply light pressure to 
>> it. 
>> 
>> And this game has been going on since the Friday after Thanksgiving when I 
>> assumed custody of this rowdy Platypus.
>> 
>> All I want is to stop playing this game. Ride my bike in peace, which means 
>> listening to the familiar whirring and humming as I pedal. I want to feel 
>> how nice the ride is, instead of being distracted by sounds that could be 
>> indicative of doom. I don’t want rubs, clicks, or anything janky going on. I 
>> want familiar! It has me completely bummed out; a heaviness of heart, that’s 
>> what I’m having.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, who else can relate and what stories do you have? It would feel nice if 
>> this was normal, instead of being unique to mechanically-challenged me.
>> 
>> In the next post I’ll include a video what the bike was doing to me today. 
>> Name that sound!
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] The “Is It Normal Or Is It Broken” New Bike Game!

[Patrick Moore]

Of course! Many times! And worse than rubbing: major things wrong with the
new build: the front derailleur won't shift to the small ring (stupidly
installed crank on far too long bb spindle; learned something!*), the rear
derailleur rubs on spokes before shifting to the big cog (that one still
puzzles me, but I got another rd to work), fenders turn out to be too
narrow for tires (learned what "65" really means with SKS P65s), custom
rear rack sways like a cobra under weight of 12-pack (well, that was just a
bad design -- solution: pay for new rear rack), front low riders came
without bottom attachments (ditto, but usable for light loads on smooth
roads), can't get rear derailleur to perfectly index (7 speed XT; gave up
indexing for over 20 years, not kidding), etc etc etc over 50+ years of
tinkering on bikes.

I recall the hurt frustration with my very first from-scratch build, when
no brake known to man would fit the bike; Indian rod braked roadster frame
meant for 635 mm bead set diameter rims built up with 622 bsd 700C rim in
rear and 24" wheel in front. I really didn't know that you needed to match
wheel size to frame. Rode it on dangerous hilly roads with freehweel and no
brake except jamming right Ked onto front tire, survived, special
Providence that watches over fools and Americans.

Live and learn is the lesson.

*I fondly recall the look of contempt on the bike shop mechanic when I
plaintively explained the problem.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:09 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:
... What I want to know if if the rest of you experience this agony.



All I want to do is just ride my raspberry Platypus. I have goals, a 3,000
> mile one for 2020, in fact, and I am 17.1 miles from reaching it. But
> instead of basking in that, I have been riding around stressed out by all
> the new sounds/ticks/rubs/whirs that my new bike is making. Add to that the
> extra stress of not having the capability to fix things myself, which means
> a 40 minute drive across town to the bros at the shop, who now know me on a
> first name basis. Embarrassing.
>
> Let me be clear - Rivendell built the perfect frame. It’s getting all
> these parts and wiring and fenders and gears to work, that’s the problem.
>
> I tell you, I remember this with the Clem, too. I could tell it was a
> great bike, so much fun to ride, not that I was having much fun... I was
> riding around, swerving, with my head cocked analyzing foreign sounds and
> vibrations coming from this strange beast beneath me. Maybe the shop
> installed stuff wrong, I’d think (which was the case more than once). Maybe
> something has come loose and the bike is about to fall apart beneath me,
> I’d think. But the Clem got all ironed out and became perfect and now here
> I am at ground zero again with this pretty Platypus.
>
> Today I went 22 miles, but not without complications. Both the Clem and
> the Platypus have something rubbing. I rode around on the Platypus in bad
> form leaning my ear to hear - “Is that one sound or two sounds?” “Is that
> rubbing or a strange vibrating?” “Is this what the Schmidt dyno hub sounds
> like? I don’t think my Shutter Precision makes this sound.” “Maybe it’s the
> fender.” “What if the tape is coming off the dyno wiring?” “I think that
> screw is too close!”  Lastly, the stem started clicking when I apply light
> pressure to it.
>
> And this game has been going on since the Friday after Thanksgiving when I
> assumed custody of this rowdy Platypus.
>
> All I want is to stop playing this game. Ride my bike in peace, which
> means listening to the familiar whirring and humming as I pedal. I want to
> feel how nice the ride is, instead of being distracted by sounds that could
> be indicative of doom. I don’t want rubs, clicks, or anything janky going
> on. I want familiar! It has me completely bummed out; a heaviness of heart,
> that’s what I’m having.
>
>
>
> So, who else can relate and what stories do you have? It would feel nice
> if this was normal, instead of being unique to mechanically-challenged me.
>
> In the next post I’ll include a video what the bike was doing to me today.
> Name that sound!
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] The “Is It Normal Or Is It Broken” New Bike Game!

[Matthew Williams]

In the video, I'm hearing several sounds--are you referring to the scraping 
"shhk . . . shk-shhhk . . . shhk . . ." sound, sort of like a credit card 
scraping against a tabletop?

Since the sound is intermittent but appears to be wheel-related, and sounds 
like rubber-hitting-light metal, I would start looking for:

1: A fender or a fender strut is loose or bent and bumping against the tire
2: Something inside the fender or attached to the fender (e.g. the taillight 
wire or fasteners) is bumping against the tire
3: A loose brake pad
4: The wheel is loose on its axle and is wobbling (the quick-release might be 
not tightened all the way down)


On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

> Here is me, holding my left hand back towards my rear tire, looking like a 
> weirdo on the MUP with my bike making these sounds. How was your day?
> 
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>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> All I want to do is just ride my raspberry Platypus. I have goals, a 3,000 
>> mile one for 2020, in fact, and I am 17.1 miles from reaching it. But 
>> instead of basking in that, I have been riding around stressed out by all 
>> the new sounds/ticks/rubs/whirs that my new bike is making. Add to that the 
>> extra stress of not having the capability to fix things myself, which means 
>> a 40 minute drive across town to the bros at the shop, who now know me on a 
>> first name basis. Embarrassing.
>> 
>> Let me be clear - Rivendell built the perfect frame. It’s getting all these 
>> parts and wiring and fenders and gears to work, that’s the problem.
>> 
>> I tell you, I remember this with the Clem, too. I could tell it was a great 
>> bike, so much fun to ride, not that I was having much fun... I was riding 
>> around, swerving, with my head cocked analyzing foreign sounds and 
>> vibrations coming from this strange beast beneath me. Maybe the shop 
>> installed stuff wrong, I’d think (which was the case more than once). Maybe 
>> something has come loose and the bike is about to fall apart beneath me, I’d 
>> think. But the Clem got all ironed out and became perfect and now here I am 
>> at ground zero again with this pretty Platypus.
>> 
>> Today I went 22 miles, but not without complications. Both the Clem and the 
>> Platypus have something rubbing. I rode around on the Platypus in bad form 
>> leaning my ear to hear - “Is that one sound or two sounds?” “Is that rubbing 
>> or a strange vibrating?” “Is this what the Schmidt dyno hub sounds like? I 
>> don’t think my Shutter Precision makes this sound.” “Maybe it’s the fender.” 
>> “What if the tape is coming off the dyno wiring?” “I think that screw is too 
>> close!”  Lastly, the stem started clicking when I apply light pressure to 
>> it. 
>> 
>> And this game has been going on since the Friday after Thanksgiving when I 
>> assumed custody of this rowdy Platypus.
>> 
>> All I want is to stop playing this game. Ride my bike in peace, which means 
>> listening to the familiar whirring and humming as I pedal. I want to feel 
>> how nice the ride is, instead of being distracted by sounds that could be 
>> indicative of doom. I don’t want rubs, clicks, or anything janky going on. I 
>> want familiar! It has me completely bummed out; a heaviness of heart, that’s 
>> what I’m having.
>> 
>> What I want to know if if the rest of you experience this agony. It’s not 
>> easy to admit, for fear of looking ungrateful. Fact is, I am wholeheartedly 
>> grateful for this bike, and it is one of the few good things to happen to me 
>> in 2020. But will this long-awaited bike ever get straightened out?
>> 
>> So, who else can relate and what stories do you have? It would feel nice if 
>> this was normal, instead of being unique to mechanically-challenged me.
>> 
>> In the next post I’ll include a video what the bike was doing to me today. 
>> Name that sound!
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: The “Is It Normal Or Is It Broken” New Bike Game!

[Joe Bernard]

I've been there, embarrassingly so. Years ago I bought a Dahon folding bike 
all decked out with fenders, racks and a dynohub..the first dyno I'd ever 
even seen live in person. The dang thing made a heck of a racket and I 
finally decided this can't be normal and I was beside myself about what to 
do about it. Then I gave the front wheel one more spin with my hand. The 
tire was rubbing a fender stay. Pulled the stay away from the tire, problem 
solved. Joe Bernard, Master Bike Mechanic Knows All The Things 🤦


On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:09:37 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> All I want to do is just ride my raspberry Platypus. I have goals, a 3,000 
> mile one for 2020, in fact, and I am 17.1 miles from reaching it. But 
> instead of basking in that, I have been riding around stressed out by all 
> the new sounds/ticks/rubs/whirs that my new bike is making. Add to that the 
> extra stress of not having the capability to fix things myself, which means 
> a 40 minute drive across town to the bros at the shop, who now know me on a 
> first name basis. Embarrassing.
>
> Let me be clear - Rivendell built the perfect frame. It’s getting all 
> these parts and wiring and fenders and gears to work, that’s the problem.
>
> I tell you, I remember this with the Clem, too. I could tell it was a 
> great bike, so much fun to ride, not that I was having much fun... I was 
> riding around, swerving, with my head cocked analyzing foreign sounds and 
> vibrations coming from this strange beast beneath me. Maybe the shop 
> installed stuff wrong, I’d think (which was the case more than once). Maybe 
> something has come loose and the bike is about to fall apart beneath me, 
> I’d think. But the Clem got all ironed out and became perfect and now here 
> I am at ground zero again with this pretty Platypus.
>
> Today I went 22 miles, but not without complications. Both the Clem and 
> the Platypus have something rubbing. I rode around on the Platypus in bad 
> form leaning my ear to hear - “Is that one sound or two sounds?” “Is that 
> rubbing or a strange vibrating?” “Is this what the Schmidt dyno hub sounds 
> like? I don’t think my Shutter Precision makes this sound.” “Maybe it’s the 
> fender.” “What if the tape is coming off the dyno wiring?” “I think that 
> screw is too close!”  Lastly, the stem started clicking when I apply light 
> pressure to it. 
>
> And this game has been going on since the Friday after Thanksgiving when I 
> assumed custody of this rowdy Platypus.
>
> All I want is to stop playing this game. Ride my bike in peace, which 
> means listening to the familiar whirring and humming as I pedal. I want to 
> feel how nice the ride is, instead of being distracted by sounds that could 
> be indicative of doom. I don’t want rubs, clicks, or anything janky going 
> on. I want familiar! It has me completely bummed out; a heaviness of heart, 
> that’s what I’m having.
>
> What I want to know if if the rest of you experience this agony. It’s not 
> easy to admit, for fear of looking ungrateful. Fact is, I am wholeheartedly 
> grateful for this bike, and it is one of the few good things to happen to 
> me in 2020. But will this long-awaited bike ever get straightened out?
>
> So, who else can relate and what stories do you have? It would feel nice 
> if this was normal, instead of being unique to mechanically-challenged me.
>
> In the next post I’ll include a video what the bike was doing to me today. 
> Name that sound!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] The “Is It Normal Or Is It Broken” New Bike Game!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

All I want to do is just ride my raspberry Platypus. I have goals, a 3,000 
mile one for 2020, in fact, and I am 17.1 miles from reaching it. But 
instead of basking in that, I have been riding around stressed out by all 
the new sounds/ticks/rubs/whirs that my new bike is making. Add to that the 
extra stress of not having the capability to fix things myself, which means 
a 40 minute drive across town to the bros at the shop, who now know me on a 
first name basis. Embarrassing.

Let me be clear - Rivendell built the perfect frame. It’s getting all these 
parts and wiring and fenders and gears to work, that’s the problem.

I tell you, I remember this with the Clem, too. I could tell it was a great 
bike, so much fun to ride, not that I was having much fun... I was riding 
around, swerving, with my head cocked analyzing foreign sounds and 
vibrations coming from this strange beast beneath me. Maybe the shop 
installed stuff wrong, I’d think (which was the case more than once). Maybe 
something has come loose and the bike is about to fall apart beneath me, 
I’d think. But the Clem got all ironed out and became perfect and now here 
I am at ground zero again with this pretty Platypus.

Today I went 22 miles, but not without complications. Both the Clem and the 
Platypus have something rubbing. I rode around on the Platypus in bad form 
leaning my ear to hear - “Is that one sound or two sounds?” “Is that 
rubbing or a strange vibrating?” “Is this what the Schmidt dyno hub sounds 
like? I don’t think my Shutter Precision makes this sound.” “Maybe it’s the 
fender.” “What if the tape is coming off the dyno wiring?” “I think that 
screw is too close!”  Lastly, the stem started clicking when I apply light 
pressure to it. 

And this game has been going on since the Friday after Thanksgiving when I 
assumed custody of this rowdy Platypus.

All I want is to stop playing this game. Ride my bike in peace, which means 
listening to the familiar whirring and humming as I pedal. I want to feel 
how nice the ride is, instead of being distracted by sounds that could be 
indicative of doom. I don’t want rubs, clicks, or anything janky going on. 
I want familiar! It has me completely bummed out; a heaviness of heart, 
that’s what I’m having.

What I want to know if if the rest of you experience this agony. It’s not 
easy to admit, for fear of looking ungrateful. Fact is, I am wholeheartedly 
grateful for this bike, and it is one of the few good things to happen to 
me in 2020. But will this long-awaited bike ever get straightened out?

So, who else can relate and what stories do you have? It would feel nice if 
this was normal, instead of being unique to mechanically-challenged me.

In the next post I’ll include a video what the bike was doing to me today. 
Name that sound!
Leah

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Sam Hillborne head badge

[Paul M]

The Hillborne head badge has been sold. Thanks!

On Saturday, 5 December 2020 at 15:20:26 UTC-8 Paul M wrote:

> Just popped this off my new Sam Hillborne frameset as I like the look of 
> the bare cream colored headtube contrasting with the dark gold frame. 
> Perfect condition. Amazing what you can do with nylon tire irons. 
> $35/shipped. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Seat bags, seat bag supports, tail light, truing stand

[Julian Westerhout]

Sorry, that photo link was bad -- this one should work: 
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSAr9qg

Julian Westerhout

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale: 
>
> Ruthworks Ultralight Large Wedge — black.  Essentially brand new. $65
>
> Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack XS  dark royal blue. - extremely clean, 
> excellent condition. $50
>
> Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some 
> black dye stains (see photos). This back can be sued as a seat pack or as a 
> small rack bag. $60
>
> Serfas UTL-8 Thunderbolt Tail Light - pink — brand new usb super bright 
> tail light. $20
>
> Minoura Workman Pro Wheel Truing Stand — in original box, in veery good 
> condition. $50
>
> Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand new 
> $75
>
> Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50
>
> Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 
>
> Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS
>
> PayPal preferred
>
> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Seat bags, seat bag supports, tail light, truing stand

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 

Ruthworks Ultralight Large Wedge — black.  Essentially brand new. $65

Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack XS  dark royal blue. - extremely clean, 
excellent condition. $50

Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some black 
dye stains (see photos). This back can be sued as a seat pack or as a small 
rack bag. $60

Serfas UTL-8 Thunderbolt Tail Light - pink — brand new usb super bright 
tail light. $20

Minoura Workman Pro Wheel Truing Stand — in original box, in veery good 
condition. $50

Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand new 
$75

Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50

Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 

Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS

PayPal preferred

Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Swappable handlebar setup

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks! Stem length hasn't been an issue so far, with the pretty straight
bars.  Some with with backsweep like an albatross bar would likely require
a different stem.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:19 PM Robert Hakim 
wrote:

> Wonderful! A luxury not often seen with quill-stemmed bikes.
> Do you find yourself wishing for any extra stem length when riding with
> the flat bars?
>
> -Robert
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 3:53:34 PM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Link to album  since groups
>> won't let me post photos
>>
>>  I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in
>> the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill
>> mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon
>> units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the
>> bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger
>> in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable
>> faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not
>> having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them
>> wearing prematurely or weakening.
>>
>> Brett in PDX
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[RBW] Re: Swappable handlebar setup

[Robert Hakim]

Wonderful! A luxury not often seen with quill-stemmed bikes. 
Do you find yourself wishing for any extra stem length when riding with the 
flat bars?

-Robert 

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 3:53:34 PM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com 
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> Link to album  since groups 
> won't let me post photos
>
>  I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in 
> the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill 
> mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon 
> units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the 
> bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger 
> in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable 
> faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not 
> having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them 
> wearing prematurely or weakening.  
>
> Brett in PDX
>

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[RBW] Swappable handlebar setup

[Brett Callahan]

Link to album  since groups 
won't let me post photos

 I present my handlebar swappable Atlantis. I was inspired by the Alps in 
the last BQ. I'm not a fan of downtube shifters, so I went with quill 
mount, which allow the bar swap not to mess with shifting.  The Paul moon 
units allow me to leave the straddle cable in place while swapping the 
bars, and with a slotted Tektro hanger in front and a modified IRD hanger 
in rear make it easy to simply slide the brake cables out.  Removable 
faceplate will stem allows me to swap bars by removing only two bolts. Not 
having to revamp a cable repeatedly should avoid concerns about them 
wearing prematurely or weakening.  

Brett in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[Leah Peterson]

Blue Susies are like Blue Clems and we like those, so you can post. Also, we 
like pink. So, free reign.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> 
> velomann wrote:
> On the subjects of anodizing and pink: 
> 
> Okay, I don't suppose I've overposted the pink Kooka crankset on my Susie 
> yet. And matching grips.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 2:45:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>> On the subjects of anodizing and pink:
>> I'm a sucker for matchy-matchy anodizing, and as some of you have seen I 
>> went all-out on the gold/orange bits for the new dark gold Sam (more 
>> info/ride report soon but whoo-whee what a fantastic bike. Especially 
>> downhill on rough gravel and trails, s smoooth!) 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157716865339992 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[Leah Peterson]

Mike, I love the anodizing you did for your Golden Sam. It just makes a bike so 
personalized, and adds little delights all over the place. Yours all ties in 
together so very well; I’m aiming for a more cohesive look in the parts I’ve 
got coming from Analog. I’m also happy to see all the sparkle in the paint - 
Riv is going heavy on the metallic and I’m a fan. 

You’re getting a ruby/raspberry bike, too? Yes, this is a great trend. I love 
to look at my raspberry paint. I always think, “Pretty as a posy.” And I’ve 
started calling it Posy. Easier to say than Platypus. That doesn’t exactly roll 
off the tongue, you know? I suppose it’s in keeping with the humble nature of 
Riv; make a fantastic, beautiful bike, but name it something dumpy like 
Platypus. But I’m not disappointed! The head badge and decals are great. I just 
dread checking it into a bike shop for service though. There’s some kind of rub 
happening on that thing and I cannot figure it out. Nobody wants to tell the 
mechanic, “There’s something rubbing on my Platypus.”

Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 11:45 AM, velomann  wrote:
> 
> On the subjects of anodizing and pink:
> I'm a sucker for matchy-matchy anodizing, and as some of you have seen I went 
> all-out on the gold/orange bits for the new dark gold Sam (more info/ride 
> report soon but whoo-whee what a fantastic bike. Especially downhill on rough 
> gravel and trails, s smoooth!) 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157716865339992
> 
> I kitted out my Bantam AdventureBike (#jimitheadventurebike) with purple ano, 
> and asked Bob K to have his painter do a medium gray "the color of the 
> garbage cans in Portland) as a neutral background for the purple. It worked 
> well IMHO https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157713311957033
> 
> And don't quote me on this, but mid-December I'm going to take delivery of h 
> Last New Bike I'll Ever Buy. At least, it's the only bike I don't have that 
> I've wanted for several years and missed out on version 1.0 and 2.0. If I 
> could choose I'd hold off a bit, but like the Riv Sams, or other models in 
> the current marketplace, you need to jump when the model is available because 
> it might be a couple years before you get the chance again. That's the deal 
> with the new Black Mountain Cycles Road Plus. I have one of Mike Varley's 
> road bikes, and it's currently the only 700c bike I own and I have no 
> interest in another pure road bike, ever. It's perfect. I put a deposit down 
> for one of the Road+ in what some would say is a pink-ish "Rubystone Red." 
> https://blackmtncycles.com/shop/frames/road-v1-3-frameset/
> I know there's some cross-pollination between Rivendell owners, BOB's, and 
> Black Mountain Cycles (also based in the Bay Area at Point Reyes), and those 
> who are familiar with them know Mike's kind of obsessive about colors, and 
> leans towards classic sports car hues. The Rubystone Red was a classic 
> Porsche color, highly desirable by collectors 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/fots36/rubystone_red_porsche_964_rs/
> 
> Mike M
> 
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:19:03 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 6:18:19 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>> Pics of your Riv or fave bike in front of house, business or place all 
>>> decorated for Christmas?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
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[RBW] Re: Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

WOW. That is a very nice..what I would call a companion color to Leah's 
Raspberry Metallic. Red/Pink bikes, it's a trend! 

Joe "Trendy" Bernard

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 11:45:19 AM UTC-8 velomann wrote:

> On the subjects of anodizing and pink:
> I'm a sucker for matchy-matchy anodizing, and as some of you have seen I 
> went all-out on the gold/orange bits for the new dark gold Sam (more 
> info/ride report soon but whoo-whee what a fantastic bike. Especially 
> downhill on rough gravel and trails, s smoooth!) 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157716865339992
>
> I kitted out my Bantam AdventureBike (#jimitheadventurebike) with purple 
> ano, and asked Bob K to have his painter do a medium gray "the color of the 
> garbage cans in Portland) as a neutral background for the purple. It worked 
> well IMHO 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157713311957033
>
> And don't quote me on this, but mid-December I'm going to take delivery of 
> h Last New Bike I'll Ever Buy. At least, it's the only bike I don't have 
> that I've wanted for several years and missed out on version 1.0 and 2.0. 
> If I could choose I'd hold off a bit, but like the Riv Sams, or other 
> models in the current marketplace, you need to jump when the model is 
> available because it might be a couple years before you get the chance 
> again. That's the deal with the new Black Mountain Cycles Road Plus. I have 
> one of Mike Varley's road bikes, and it's currently the only 700c bike I 
> own and I have no interest in another pure road bike, ever. It's perfect. I 
> put a deposit down for one of the Road+ in what some would say is a 
> pink-ish "Rubystone Red." 
> https://blackmtncycles.com/shop/frames/road-v1-3-frameset/
> I know there's some cross-pollination between Rivendell owners, BOB's, and 
> Black Mountain Cycles (also based in the Bay Area at Point Reyes), and 
> those who are familiar with them know Mike's kind of obsessive about 
> colors, and leans towards classic sports car hues. The Rubystone Red was a 
> classic Porsche color, highly desirable by collectors 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/fots36/rubystone_red_porsche_964_rs/
>
> Mike M
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:19:03 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 6:18:19 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> Pics of your Riv or fave bike in front of house, business or place all 
>>> decorated for Christmas?
>>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_9238_lores.jpg]
>>
>>  
>>
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[RBW] FS: tires, bars, n more (Compass, WTB, Nitto, Simworks, VO...)

[Patch T]

Hello all! Sorry for the cross-posting. I have the following items for 
sale. Can potentially arrange pickups in NYC area. Paypal or Venmo. ITEMS 
DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING.
Photos can be found here. 
*email*: p tro ffer @ g ma il . co m (omit all spaces)

Thanks for looking!
Patch
BK/NY

*TIRES*
*SOMA SHIKORO* - 700c x 42 -* used some; dirty walls *- $60/pair

*WTB NANO* - 700c x 40 / TCS -* some noticeable tread wear* - $50/pair

*CLEMENT XPLOR MSO* - 700c x 40 / black - *barely used; pre-Donnely, not 
tubeless ready* - $60/pair

*WTB BYWAY* - 650b x 47 / skinwall - *very dirty walls; lots of tread left* 
- $50/pair

*TERAVAIL RUTLAND* - 27.5 x 2.1 / black - *used a handful of times; lots of 
tread left *- $60/pair

*COMPASS LOUP LOUP* - 650B X 38 / skinwall / standard casing - *dirty 
walls; used lightly, lots of tread* - $100/pair

*ULTRADYNAMICO ROSE X CAVA* - 650b x 47.99 / "robusto" casing / black - *great 
condition, used lightly, lot of tread left;* *2 different treads; 1 of each 
for "mullet" set-up* - $100/pair

*MAXXIS DTH* - 26 x 2.15 / skinwall - *used some; dirty walls; lots of 
tread left* - $50/pair

HANDLEBARS
*SIMWORKS WILD HONEY* - silver / 470mm ctc / 31.8mm / 105mm reach / 120mm 
drop - *clean, like new, a little shellac* - $75

*SIMWORKS GETAROUND* - silver / 700mm / 22.2 clamp area + shims  - *Weird 
early version with no sleeved clamp; shims included (but are cut to fit 
inside a Nitto stem)* - $60

*NITTO KITE* - black / 630mm / 25.4mm /Heat Treated Alum - *Great condition* 
- $35

*NITTO NOODLE* - 410mm / 26.0 clamp - *Great condition, lightly used, some 
scratches* - $60

*SALSA COWBELL 2* - black / 490mm ctc / 31.8 / 68mm reach / 115mm drop - *tape 
and residue* - $50

THE REST
*Stem - VO threadless* - 6 deg / 90mm / 31. 8 clamp / silver  - *some small 
scratches from storage* - $20

*Stem - RITCHEY threadless* - 30 deg / 60mm / 31.8 clamp / black - *like 
new* - $20

*Brakeset -TEKTRO R539*  - 47-59mm / silver / recessed - *like new* - 
$60/set

*Brake Levers - CANE CREEK DROP V* - all-black / long-pull - *like new* - 
$35/pair

*Brake Levers - VO GRAN COMPE* - non-aero / drilled / tan hoods - *like new* 
- $60/pair

*Rack - PLETSCHER ATHLETE* - black - *like new - *$50

*NORTH STREET* Basket Duffel - this one 
,
 
but without handlebar mount / navy blue - *used, a little dirty, but no 
rips or tears or significant damage* - $50

*A FRAME*
1987 TREK 330 ELANCE 
 - 
F/F/HS/BB/BRAKES - $350

   - 19"/47.5CM
   - red
   - Reynolds 531
   - new VO Grand Cru headset
   - new BB UN55 x 110 (I think)
   - new Tektro R559 (650b ready - clearance for 650b x 38)
   - dent in top tube, see photos

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[RBW] Re: Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[velomann]

On the subjects of anodizing and pink:
I'm a sucker for matchy-matchy anodizing, and as some of you have seen I 
went all-out on the gold/orange bits for the new dark gold Sam (more 
info/ride report soon but whoo-whee what a fantastic bike. Especially 
downhill on rough gravel and trails, s smoooth!) 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157716865339992

I kitted out my Bantam AdventureBike (#jimitheadventurebike) with purple 
ano, and asked Bob K to have his painter do a medium gray "the color of the 
garbage cans in Portland) as a neutral background for the purple. It worked 
well IMHO https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums/72157713311957033

And don't quote me on this, but mid-December I'm going to take delivery of 
h Last New Bike I'll Ever Buy. At least, it's the only bike I don't have 
that I've wanted for several years and missed out on version 1.0 and 2.0. 
If I could choose I'd hold off a bit, but like the Riv Sams, or other 
models in the current marketplace, you need to jump when the model is 
available because it might be a couple years before you get the chance 
again. That's the deal with the new Black Mountain Cycles Road Plus. I have 
one of Mike Varley's road bikes, and it's currently the only 700c bike I 
own and I have no interest in another pure road bike, ever. It's perfect. I 
put a deposit down for one of the Road+ in what some would say is a 
pink-ish "Rubystone Red." 
https://blackmtncycles.com/shop/frames/road-v1-3-frameset/
I know there's some cross-pollination between Rivendell owners, BOB's, and 
Black Mountain Cycles (also based in the Bay Area at Point Reyes), and 
those who are familiar with them know Mike's kind of obsessive about 
colors, and leans towards classic sports car hues. The Rubystone Red was a 
classic Porsche color, highly desirable by collectors 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/fots36/rubystone_red_porsche_964_rs/

Mike M

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:19:03 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 6:18:19 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> Pics of your Riv or fave bike in front of house, business or place all 
>> decorated for Christmas?
>>
>
> [image: IMG_9238_lores.jpg]
>
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Changing tires on Cliffhanger rims

[Peter White]

The original Cliffhanger was not tubeless compatible. It also had a shallow
"V" cross section. The newer Cliffhanger is tubeless compatible and has a
rounded cross section.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:27 AM Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
thesixtht...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Weird, I've always found the Cliffhangers to be some of the easiest rims
> from which to remove/mount tires. Glad you were able to figure it out. My
> Sun CR18's have always been a pain in the ass but often depends what tires
> are going on/off. And they aren't tubeless rims.
>
> On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 1:46:07 PM UTC-5 Braxton Colagross wrote:
>
>> That is indeed the trick for tubeless rims. Push the entire tire to the
>> well and then it isn't so bad to lever them off.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:47:01 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> You probably are not the last one to figure this out, but you are pretty
>>> far from the first ;-P
>>>
>>> Retro-folks seem cursed to figure out tubeless compatible rims on their
>>> own, one at a time.  Few appear to learn from others' travails.
>>>
>>> Not even podium!
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:38:42 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 My local friend with a Clem L asked for some help today.  She was
 having trouble getting the Continental Contact Speed tires off the
 cliffhanger rim wheels of her Clem L. When I took a turn at it, I was
 surprised at how difficult it is to get a lever under the tire bead.
 Looking at he Velocity page, I noticed that they are advertised as close
 fitting and that a thin rim tape must be used.  The wheels shipped from
 Walnut Creek with that rim tape so I kept looking.

 I noticed the center of the rim track was depressed from the edges, so
 when I squeezed the tire so that the beads were over the center, all of a
 sudden, there was space for a tire lever to get in and work. They were
 tight to start with but once started, they come off like any other tire.
 I've not ridden Cliffhangers but have noticed that they are mentioned here
 pretty often.

 Am  I the last to discover this? :)

 Tailwinds

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Lucky]

Damaged Betty Foy frame on SF Craigslist (no relation to seller)

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-60cm-rivendell-betty-foy-frame/7242223179.html
On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 11:03:52 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> A. Homer Hilsen
> 52cm
> $2800
> Corvalis, OR
>
>
> https://corvallis.craigslist.org/bik/d/corvallis-rivendell-homer-hilsen-650b/7239676760.html
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built SOLD

[Ted Durant]

Bike is sold - thanks all!

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:03:18 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> Hi All -
>
> Up for sale is my 1997 Waterford-built Rivendell Mountain Bike. Asking 
> price is $1250 plus shipping, which will depend on where and how.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Suntour, Sram, bar ends, 26" wheelset, rack, more

[Drw]

Here's what's left

*-Suntour XCE set-* front and rear deraillers, crankset, trigger shifter. 
I'll throw in a dia compe front twist shifter, if interested. This was on a 
3x7. ok to good cosmetic condition/fully functional. Crank has a bunch of 
scratches. * 40$*

*-Sram X5 trigger shifters + X7 rear derailleur*. this is for a 3x9 setup. 
good to vgc. *35$*

-*Dia compe xce canti's.* front and rear. in good shape/pretty clean. can 
throw in dia compe flat bar levers if interested- *20$*

-*700c wheelset- matrix titantour rims, suzue hubs, 7 speed freewheel*. 
need minor truing. free for pickup. 


On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 4:58:57 PM UTC-8 Drw wrote:

> Clearing out some stuff. Prices don't include shipping. I'll calculate it 
> based location. Paypal friends and family preferred. I'm in Los Angeles and 
> would do discounts for anyone who wants to pick up. Feel free to make 
> offers. 
> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/rLegfU6iBJo24a7fA
> email= d rewb eckm eye r...@gmail.com (no 
> spaces)
>
> *-Suntour XCE set-* front and rear deraillers, crankset, trigger shifter. 
> I'll throw in a dia compe front twist shifter, if interested. This was on a 
> 3x7. ok to good cosmetic condition/fully functional. Crank has a bunch of 
> scratches. * 40$*
>
> *-Sram X5 trigger shifters + X7 rear derailleur*. this is for a 3x9 
> setup. good to vgc. *35$*
>
> -*Ultegra bar end shifters*- index 8, i think, but can friction more. VGC 
> and light use, but some shellack residue- *50$*
>
> -*Dia compe xce canti's.* front and rear. in good shape/pretty clean. can 
> throw in dia compe flat bar levers if interested- *20$*
>
> -*26" Wheelset- Sun Rhynolite to Deore hubs + shimano cassette*. couple 
> years old but have mostly been hanging on my wall. condition is nearly new. 
> 32/36h and 135 spacing (i think. ill double check) *150$ * (or 180$ for 
> wheelset/tubes/tires)
>
> -*Schwalbe big ben 26" tires*- never mounted. *45$ *for the pair (or 180$ 
> for wheelset/tubes/tires)
>
> -*Tubus rear rack*. cant remember the model name, but it looks like a 
> logo. mounted but never used. *60$*
>
> -*Wald medium baske*t- no mounting hardware. vgc- *10$*
>
> -*Chaco Z1 sandals-* all black, size 10 which is more of a 10.5/11. these 
> are the MUSA ones with a vibram outsole- *35$*
>
> -*700c wheelset- matrix titantour rims, suzue hubs, 7 speed freewheel*. 
> need minor truing. free for pickup. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Suntour, Sram, bar ends, 26" wheelset, rack, more

[Drw]

most items have been spoken for. here is what is left. 

*-Suntour XCE set-* front and rear deraillers, crankset, trigger shifter. 
I'll throw in a dia compe front twist shifter, if interested. This was on a 
3x7. ok to good cosmetic condition/fully functional. Crank has a bunch of 
scratches. * 40$*

-*700c wheelset- matrix titantour rims, suzue hubs, 7 speed freewheel*. 
need minor truing. free for pickup. 


On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 4:58:57 PM UTC-8 Drw wrote:

> Clearing out some stuff. Prices don't include shipping. I'll calculate it 
> based location. Paypal friends and family preferred. I'm in Los Angeles and 
> would do discounts for anyone who wants to pick up. Feel free to make 
> offers. 
> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/rLegfU6iBJo24a7fA
> email= d rewb eckm eye r...@gmail.com (no 
> spaces)
>
> *-Suntour XCE set-* front and rear deraillers, crankset, trigger shifter. 
> I'll throw in a dia compe front twist shifter, if interested. This was on a 
> 3x7. ok to good cosmetic condition/fully functional. Crank has a bunch of 
> scratches. * 40$*
>
> *-Sram X5 trigger shifters + X7 rear derailleur*. this is for a 3x9 
> setup. good to vgc. *35$*
>
> -*Ultegra bar end shifters*- index 8, i think, but can friction more. VGC 
> and light use, but some shellack residue- *50$*
>
> -*Dia compe xce canti's.* front and rear. in good shape/pretty clean. can 
> throw in dia compe flat bar levers if interested- *20$*
>
> -*26" Wheelset- Sun Rhynolite to Deore hubs + shimano cassette*. couple 
> years old but have mostly been hanging on my wall. condition is nearly new. 
> 32/36h and 135 spacing (i think. ill double check) *150$ * (or 180$ for 
> wheelset/tubes/tires)
>
> -*Schwalbe big ben 26" tires*- never mounted. *45$ *for the pair (or 180$ 
> for wheelset/tubes/tires)
>
> -*Tubus rear rack*. cant remember the model name, but it looks like a 
> logo. mounted but never used. *60$*
>
> -*Wald medium baske*t- no mounting hardware. vgc- *10$*
>
> -*Chaco Z1 sandals-* all black, size 10 which is more of a 10.5/11. these 
> are the MUSA ones with a vibram outsole- *35$*
>
> -*700c wheelset- matrix titantour rims, suzue hubs, 7 speed freewheel*. 
> need minor truing. free for pickup. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built

[Ray Varella]

I’m in line Harth. 

Cheers
Ray

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:14:02 AM UTC-8 har...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh my, that is such a gorgeous bike.  Geometry is very similar to my 
> Vanilla, which is not a coincidence!
>
> I hope Ray is buying this.  It needs to stay in the family.
>
> Cheers,
> Harth
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:09:47 AM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Pm sent Ted
>>
>> I’m at rayvarella007 at gmail dot com if you don’t see it
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:28:56 AM UTC-6 Christopher Cote 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What's the saddle height in the pic?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry - that's usually my first question, too, and I forgot to include 
>>> it! Saddle height shown is 71cm. My PBH is 82cm. 
>>>
>>> What size regular (level top tube) road bike do you ride?
>>>
>>>
>>> My Rivendell Road Bike is 55cm seat tube / 55cm top tube. 
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built

[Harth Huffman]

Oh my, that is such a gorgeous bike.  Geometry is very similar to my 
Vanilla, which is not a coincidence!

I hope Ray is buying this.  It needs to stay in the family.

Cheers,
Harth

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:09:47 AM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

> Pm sent Ted
>
> I’m at rayvarella007 at gmail dot com if you don’t see it
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:28:56 AM UTC-6 Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>>> What's the saddle height in the pic?
>>
>>
>> Sorry - that's usually my first question, too, and I forgot to include 
>> it! Saddle height shown is 71cm. My PBH is 82cm. 
>>
>> What size regular (level top tube) road bike do you ride?
>>
>>
>> My Rivendell Road Bike is 55cm seat tube / 55cm top tube. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built

[Ray Varella]

Pm sent Ted

I’m at rayvarella007 at gmail dot com if you don’t see it

Thank you 
Ray
On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:28:56 AM UTC-6 Christopher Cote wrote:
>
>> What's the saddle height in the pic?
>
>
> Sorry - that's usually my first question, too, and I forgot to include it! 
> Saddle height shown is 71cm. My PBH is 82cm. 
>
> What size regular (level top tube) road bike do you ride?
>
>
> My Rivendell Road Bike is 55cm seat tube / 55cm top tube. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built

[Ted Durant]

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:28:56 AM UTC-6 Christopher Cote wrote:

> What's the saddle height in the pic?


Sorry - that's usually my first question, too, and I forgot to include it! 
Saddle height shown is 71cm. My PBH is 82cm. 

What size regular (level top tube) road bike do you ride?


My Rivendell Road Bike is 55cm seat tube / 55cm top tube. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built

[Christopher Cote]

Wow, that is amazing. I'm hoping this is way to small for me, so I can stop 
thinking about it. What's the saddle height in the pic? What size regular 
(level top tube) road bike do you ride? Thanks!

Chris


On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 11:03:18 AM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> Hi All -
>
> Up for sale is my 1997 Waterford-built Rivendell Mountain Bike. Asking 
> price is $1250 plus shipping, which will depend on where and how.
>
> It is a 17.5" frame, with a 55cm top tube (57cm effective). Tubing is 
> Reynolds 753 and 531. Color is classic pumpkin orange with cream head tube. 
> Rivendell Frame Geometry sheet from the time says:
> ST angle: 73
> HT angle: 72
> Fork Rake: 40
> Chain Stay: 42.5
> BB Drop: 40
> Over Locknut: 132
>
> Condition is very good, though there are some dings in the paint. Selling 
> because I've replaced it with a more road-oriented big tire bike. 
>
> It is built up with:
> SunTour XC Pro cranks & derailers
> Tange BB
> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
> 8-speed cassette (yes, this combination works!)
> Velo Orange wheels
> Compass Rat Trap Pass tires
> TRP Revox brakes and RRP levers
> Tange Seiki threadless headset, but fork is threaded (yes, this works!)
> Specialized/Nitto seatpost
> Nitto Dirt Drop stem 
> Nitto Dirt Drop bars
> no pedals, and saddle is not included
>
> Please contact off list, though feel free to ask questions off list.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
> [image: IMG_0354.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0356.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0357.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0359.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0362.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0363.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Mountain Bike 17.5" Waterford Built

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Someone is going to have a very Merry Christmas this year! That's a 
spectacular deal on a super rare bike. 

Thanks for the pics Ted - we don't get to see these often enough.

Marty

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 11:03:18 AM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> Hi All -
>
> Up for sale is my 1997 Waterford-built Rivendell Mountain Bike. Asking 
> price is $1250 plus shipping, which will depend on where and how.
>
> It is a 17.5" frame, with a 55cm top tube (57cm effective). Tubing is 
> Reynolds 753 and 531. Color is classic pumpkin orange with cream head tube. 
> Rivendell Frame Geometry sheet from the time says:
> ST angle: 73
> HT angle: 72
> Fork Rake: 40
> Chain Stay: 42.5
> BB Drop: 40
> Over Locknut: 132
>
> Condition is very good, though there are some dings in the paint. Selling 
> because I've replaced it with a more road-oriented big tire bike. 
>
> It is built up with:
> SunTour XC Pro cranks & derailers
> Tange BB
> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
> 8-speed cassette (yes, this combination works!)
> Velo Orange wheels
> Compass Rat Trap Pass tires
> TRP Revox brakes and RRP levers
> Tange Seiki threadless headset, but fork is threaded (yes, this works!)
> Specialized/Nitto seatpost
> Nitto Dirt Drop stem 
> Nitto Dirt Drop bars
> no pedals, and saddle is not included
>
> Please contact off list, though feel free to ask questions off list.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
> [image: IMG_0354.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0356.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0357.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0359.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0362.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0363.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Changing tires on Cliffhanger rims

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Weird, I've always found the Cliffhangers to be some of the easiest rims 
from which to remove/mount tires. Glad you were able to figure it out. My 
Sun CR18's have always been a pain in the ass but often depends what tires 
are going on/off. And they aren't tubeless rims. 

On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 1:46:07 PM UTC-5 Braxton Colagross wrote:

> That is indeed the trick for tubeless rims. Push the entire tire to the 
> well and then it isn't so bad to lever them off. 
>
> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:47:01 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> You probably are not the last one to figure this out, but you are pretty 
>> far from the first ;-P  
>>
>> Retro-folks seem cursed to figure out tubeless compatible rims on their 
>> own, one at a time.  Few appear to learn from others' travails.  
>>
>> Not even podium!  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:38:42 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> My local friend with a Clem L asked for some help today.  She was having 
>>> trouble getting the Continental Contact Speed tires off the cliffhanger rim 
>>> wheels of her Clem L. When I took a turn at it, I was surprised at how 
>>> difficult it is to get a lever under the tire bead. Looking at he Velocity 
>>> page, I noticed that they are advertised as close fitting and that a thin 
>>> rim tape must be used.  The wheels shipped from Walnut Creek with that rim 
>>> tape so I kept looking. 
>>>
>>> I noticed the center of the rim track was depressed from the edges, so 
>>> when I squeezed the tire so that the beads were over the center, all of a 
>>> sudden, there was space for a tire lever to get in and work. They were 
>>> tight to start with but once started, they come off like any other tire. 
>>> I've not ridden Cliffhangers but have noticed that they are mentioned here 
>>> pretty often.
>>>
>>> Am  I the last to discover this? :)
>>>
>>> Tailwinds
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[True Golden]

Thats a great pic in front of the house decorated for Christmas!

Glad your enjoying the new bike!
Its fun to read of other's enthusiasm for their bikes.
I think its contagious.

Leah, how about starting a thread leading off with that pic...something like 
this...

Pics of your Riv or fave bike in front of house, business or place all 
decorated for Christmas?

Perhaps that will spread some joy and Christmas spirit.

Paul in Dallas

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