[RBW] Re: Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

[Evan E.]

Great story, Leah!  Welcome to the list, Pam! I hope you’ll visit us once 
in a while (on the list, that is) and send us some Riv news.

Evan

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:28:42 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Y'all are all too funny.  You know how good the Rivs ride so I'll take any 
> opportunity to ride.  If anyone asks me if I want to ride, the answer is 
> always yes.  Example: somebody invited me to table at an event but said it 
> was in the next town over and not to ride there b/c it's too dangerous, 
> hard, or too far or something like that.  Well, the only reason I wanted to 
> do it was for the ride there.  So it was 26 miles out.  It was going to be 
> 52 miles round trip which is more than I usually ride in a day.  But I went 
> and am glad I did.  The event was only so so but the ride was great.  As 
> all rides on a Riv are.  If you come to Charlotte, I will ride with you.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 4:58:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Well, if you’re gonna be like Pam you better get a physical first - 
>> that’s a pretty optimistic mileage goal! We might just tip over.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:17:58 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Between you and this person that's a whole lotta Riv mileage every year. 
>>> When I get my normal riding schedule back I know what I need to do: Be more 
>>> like Leah and Pam! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 [image: B297903F-9F56-4545-8742-AAD171CCCE34.jpeg][image: 
 89AC1AA1-D92E-4A84-AD82-94D140C20E72.jpeg][image: 
 390C0DAD-BF2F-495C-9B1D-ED16B7D642DC.jpeg][image: 
 238E117F-7E3D-4CE1-973F-54E3640EB72F.jpeg]

 I have been so inspired lately by one Pamela Murray out of Charlotte, 
 who rides a tiny 2011 Betty Foy. She is known to her community for her 
 bike 
 activism and her bike safety course, Cycling Savvy. We “met” on social 
 media.

 The reason I find her so inspiring is her impressive mileage on her 
 Rivendell. She began riding an Electra Townie (2006, I believe) and put 
 5800 miles on it. In 2011, she bought her Betty Foy and she has now logged 
 an impressive *50,200* miles on her Betty. 

 50,200 miles. Since 2011. Just take that in for a moment...

 Pamela rides rain or shine, everywhere, and for any reason. While some 
 of us are obsessing over n+1, upgrades, or aesthetics, she’s out there in 
 the true spirit of Rivendell, riding the wheels off her Riv and inspiring 
 her community to do the same. You can see her around town hauling pieces 
 of 
 furniture she finds curbside, or donating 85 pounds of food she hauled for 
 Cranksgiving, growing her “bike benefits” program, and teaching others to 
 safely cycle in the city. 

 Pamela is half my size and 5x as tough, and I doff my polka dot Nutcase 
 helmet to her. She. Is. The. Queen.

 Leah
 PS I had Pam’s permission to post this thread and her photos.




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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Mark Roland]

I was puzzled by the 38mm R too. Mine are 700 x 43 and I thought that was 
the only size in 700C?

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:05:04 PM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I admit I have an older [coleman green] Quickbeam. My 38mm Schwalbe Dureme 
> Supremes fit with room to spare. My Rene Herse 38mm Barlow Pass tires fit 
> with OODLES of room to spare. I have seen numerous posts and articles 
> ascribing usage of 44mm tires on Quickbeams. Perhaps your Rock'n Roads are 
> a little wider (only advertised width I have seen is 43/44mm). Or maybe my 
> calipers need to be recalibrated.
>
> Anyway, I will stick with my Quickbeam.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:58:54 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
>> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has one 
>> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. I 
>> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
>> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
>> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
>> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[JohnS]

Was thinking of DP yesterday as I put on my fish net long undies, under my 
MUSA pants and went for a walk in the east coast snow storm. The pair 
worked perfectly together! Couldn't have  been more comfortable. Hope he's 
well

JohnS


On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 7:30:20 PM UTC-5 Jesse Stoddard wrote:

> Outside of cycling and health related proclivities, couldn't be more 
> diametrically opposed to a guy. Always admired DP regardless and hope he's 
> well. 
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 4:37:02 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Actually, I expect he may well be such a casualty. At any rate, I have 
>> just emailed him (I hope) and will report any news I am authorized to 
>> report back to the list.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:27 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> This comment is not necessary. We're in a pandemic and many of us are 
>>> genuinely concerned about Deacon Patrick. It is his way to drop off the 
>>> list for months at a time, but this is not a normal time. I hope Other 
>>> Patrick hears from him soon. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Another casualty of the attempted Reparations Fund?  

 On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:20 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas 
 wrote:

> I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

[Pam Bikes]

Y'all are all too funny.  You know how good the Rivs ride so I'll take any 
opportunity to ride.  If anyone asks me if I want to ride, the answer is 
always yes.  Example: somebody invited me to table at an event but said it 
was in the next town over and not to ride there b/c it's too dangerous, 
hard, or too far or something like that.  Well, the only reason I wanted to 
do it was for the ride there.  So it was 26 miles out.  It was going to be 
52 miles round trip which is more than I usually ride in a day.  But I went 
and am glad I did.  The event was only so so but the ride was great.  As 
all rides on a Riv are.  If you come to Charlotte, I will ride with you.


On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 4:58:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Well, if you’re gonna be like Pam you better get a physical first - that’s 
> a pretty optimistic mileage goal! We might just tip over.
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:17:58 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Between you and this person that's a whole lotta Riv mileage every year. 
>> When I get my normal riding schedule back I know what I need to do: Be more 
>> like Leah and Pam! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> [image: B297903F-9F56-4545-8742-AAD171CCCE34.jpeg][image: 
>>> 89AC1AA1-D92E-4A84-AD82-94D140C20E72.jpeg][image: 
>>> 390C0DAD-BF2F-495C-9B1D-ED16B7D642DC.jpeg][image: 
>>> 238E117F-7E3D-4CE1-973F-54E3640EB72F.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I have been so inspired lately by one Pamela Murray out of Charlotte, 
>>> who rides a tiny 2011 Betty Foy. She is known to her community for her bike 
>>> activism and her bike safety course, Cycling Savvy. We “met” on social 
>>> media.
>>>
>>> The reason I find her so inspiring is her impressive mileage on her 
>>> Rivendell. She began riding an Electra Townie (2006, I believe) and put 
>>> 5800 miles on it. In 2011, she bought her Betty Foy and she has now logged 
>>> an impressive *50,200* miles on her Betty. 
>>>
>>> 50,200 miles. Since 2011. Just take that in for a moment...
>>>
>>> Pamela rides rain or shine, everywhere, and for any reason. While some 
>>> of us are obsessing over n+1, upgrades, or aesthetics, she’s out there in 
>>> the true spirit of Rivendell, riding the wheels off her Riv and inspiring 
>>> her community to do the same. You can see her around town hauling pieces of 
>>> furniture she finds curbside, or donating 85 pounds of food she hauled for 
>>> Cranksgiving, growing her “bike benefits” program, and teaching others to 
>>> safely cycle in the city. 
>>>
>>> Pamela is half my size and 5x as tough, and I doff my polka dot Nutcase 
>>> helmet to her. She. Is. The. Queen.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>> PS I had Pam’s permission to post this thread and her photos.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Pam Bikes]

Pristine!  How do you keep it so new looking?  Most people think mine is 
vintage b/c it has so much beausage.

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 7:51:36 PM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:

> Yes my math was bad. I ordered the frame Aug 2002 and it was delivered Feb 
> 2003.
> I requested the front rack braze-ons for a front rack. At the time 
> Rivendell had not done this. I had to send a drawing of where to put them. 
> Now they are standard.
> I also requested an extra low bottom bracket. I’m not sure they would do 
> that again because there is an issue with pedal strikes while cornering. I 
> don’t pedal thru fast corners (I enjoy coasting!)
>
> I have a carpenter that I’ve used for many years, he does excellent work. 
>
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Ian A  wrote:
>
> Really nice looking bike and the new handlebars suit well. I also admire 
> the impressive tile work in the background.  Is there a stone mason in the 
> family?
>
> I appreciate this year would like to have been skipped by many, but isn't 
> 2003 - 2020 closer to 17 years?
>
> :) IanA Alberta Canada (where we are about 30 years behind the rest of the 
> world).
>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone else a paranoid mechanic?

[Pam Bikes]

In additon to all of the above, I like to put a little bit of air in the 
new tube prior to putting it in so that it doesn't get twisted.  Just 
enough to hold its shape.  Don't screw on the locking nut too much if you 
use them, it'll stress the valve stem.  Take your time and sit down and be 
methodical.  I don't like getting flats so I have Schwalbe Marathon 
Supremes.  I don't have many flats on my bike but have had plenty on my 
family's bikes to repair.  BTW I patch all my tubes - some more than once.  
And ride with them.  
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all!
> I just threw on Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires (700x40) on the Atlantis. 
> Sad to see the Shikoros all deflated and and sitting in the corner, but it 
> was either they take a timeout or I don't ride to work. Easy choice.
>
> So I've been riding as an adult over a year now and started with an 
> affordable Linus with 28mm tires and promptly got a flat my third or fourth 
> time out on it. I took the wheel over, unseated the bead, got the tube out, 
> patched it, put it back in, reseated the bead, yadda yadda yadda, BOOM. No 
> issue. Had another flat this last summer and had to repair it while on the 
> way home from picking up a crowler of beer...very stressful, almost lost my 
> wrench, but got it done, not a problem! 
>
> Later this last summer as piece-by-piece Riv'd up my Linus, I wen to 35mm 
> tires. Took off the old ones, did all the steps, and as I was pumping up 
> the front tire, the tube blew out (some tube was under the bead...DOH!). So 
> I laughed it off, changed the tube, did the rear wheel, and went out for a 
> ride. All was going well, then on a fast descent, when I started breaking I 
> heard an awful thud-thud-thud-thud that was getting louder and BANG! I 
> screwed up the back wheel, too! So re-did both tires, used soapy water, 
> thought about using talc, but I couldn't find any locally and Sheldon Brown 
> says it does nothing...I never had another problem.
>
> So I guess I'm wondering this (if you've managed to read this far)...at 
> what point can you be absolutely sure that tube is not pinched between bead 
> and rim? Can you ever be sure? is my bike a ticking time bomb? :)
>
> Just wanted to share my neurotic thoughts as I rode to work, traversing 
> ice for the first time ever! 
>
> Ben "IT'S GONNA BLOW" in Omaha
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[James Valiensi]

Yes my math was bad. I ordered the frame Aug 2002 and it was delivered Feb 2003.
I requested the front rack braze-ons for a front rack. At the time Rivendell 
had not done this. I had to send a drawing of where to put them. Now they are 
standard.
I also requested an extra low bottom bracket. I’m not sure they would do that 
again because there is an issue with pedal strikes while cornering. I don’t 
pedal thru fast corners (I enjoy coasting!)

I have a carpenter that I’ve used for many years, he does excellent work. 

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Ian A  wrote:
> 
> Really nice looking bike and the new handlebars suit well. I also admire the 
> impressive tile work in the background.  Is there a stone mason in the family?
> 
> I appreciate this year would like to have been skipped by many, but isn't 
> 2003 - 2020 closer to 17 years?
> 
> :) IanA Alberta Canada (where we are about 30 years behind the rest of the 
> world).
> 
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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Ian A]

Really nice looking bike and the new handlebars suit well. I also admire 
the impressive tile work in the background.  Is there a stone mason in the 
family?

I appreciate this year would like to have been skipped by many, but isn't 
2003 - 2020 closer to 17 years?

:) IanA Alberta Canada (where we are about 30 years behind the rest of the 
world).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Jesse Stoddard]

Outside of cycling and health related proclivities, couldn't be more 
diametrically opposed to a guy. Always admired DP regardless and hope he's 
well. 
On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 4:37:02 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Actually, I expect he may well be such a casualty. At any rate, I have 
> just emailed him (I hope) and will report any news I am authorized to 
> report back to the list.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:27 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> This comment is not necessary. We're in a pandemic and many of us are 
>> genuinely concerned about Deacon Patrick. It is his way to drop off the 
>> list for months at a time, but this is not a normal time. I hope Other 
>> Patrick hears from him soon. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
> Another casualty of the attempted Reparations Fund?  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:20 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>
 I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.

 Paul in Dallas 

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Re: [RBW] Anyone else a paranoid mechanic?

[Paul Brodek]

Hey now, this is truly schmart. Crooked = not snug. 

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:25:49 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> I leave my bars noticeably crooked when the bike is in the stand so I know 
> I will have to straighten and tighten them before my test ride. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Oh yes, I worry. Especially because - after decades of doing this stuff - 
>> I still have a terrible habit of snugging the bars in the stand and telling 
>> myself I'll get back to that bolt later to make sure it's tight. I always 
>> forget and my first ride is always met with the bars slipping in the first 
>> few feet. I can't trust my mechanic!
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 7:02:53 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Laing!
>>> Thanks for that write up! Most of those are the tips/things I definitely 
>>> did after my downhill blowout. I'll likely try the max PSI trick and 
>>> inspect the raised line again. I think I got it nailed and figured out, I 
>>> just wondered if anyone who checks the boxes and learns from their mistakes 
>>> still has that creeping feeling that it's all going to fall apart. 
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:33 AM lconley  wrote:
>>>
 There are two things.
 One. Push the entire tire, both sides, to the center of the rim off of 
 the bead seat before inflating so that you can see that there is no tube 
 under the tire.
 Two. inflate the tire in stages - 1st inflate the tire to 15-20 PSIG 
 and then inspect the tire to rim interface. On all tires, there is a 
 molded-in, small, raised line around the tire just above the tire-rim 
 interface. At low pressures, this may still be below the rim, if there are 
 any places where this line is a noticeable distance from the rim, it may 
 indicate a problem - deflate, inspect, adjust. As you raise the pressure 
 in 
 stages the line should eventually even out at a constant distance from the 
 rim as it seats on the rim - you can pull on the tire at the low and 
 intermediate pressures to help it out. Some tires seat immediately, some 
 require a lot of fiddling. It may require going to the tire maximum 
 pressure to seat the tire. Then you can release pressure as required. This 
 is generally only required for new tires, they kind of take a set as they 
 break in and stretch.

 Laing
 Still uses tubes

 On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey all!
> I just threw on Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires (700x40) on the 
> Atlantis. Sad to see the Shikoros all deflated and and sitting in the 
> corner, but it was either they take a timeout or I don't ride to work. 
> Easy 
> choice.
>
> So I've been riding as an adult over a year now and started with an 
> affordable Linus with 28mm tires and promptly got a flat my third or 
> fourth 
> time out on it. I took the wheel over, unseated the bead, got the tube 
> out, 
> patched it, put it back in, reseated the bead, yadda yadda yadda, BOOM. 
> No 
> issue. Had another flat this last summer and had to repair it while on 
> the 
> way home from picking up a crowler of beer...very stressful, almost lost 
> my 
> wrench, but got it done, not a problem! 
>
> Later this last summer as piece-by-piece Riv'd up my Linus, I wen to 
> 35mm tires. Took off the old ones, did all the steps, and as I was 
> pumping 
> up the front tire, the tube blew out (some tube was under the 
> bead...DOH!). 
> So I laughed it off, changed the tube, did the rear wheel, and went out 
> for 
> a ride. All was going well, then on a fast descent, when I started 
> breaking 
> I heard an awful thud-thud-thud-thud that was getting louder and BANG! I 
> screwed up the back wheel, too! So re-did both tires, used soapy water, 
> thought about using talc, but I couldn't find any locally and Sheldon 
> Brown 
> says it does nothing...I never had another problem.
>
> So I guess I'm wondering this (if you've managed to read this 
> far)...at what point can you be absolutely sure that tube is not pinched 
> between bead and rim? Can you ever be sure? is my bike a ticking time 
> bomb? 
> :)
>
> Just wanted to share my neurotic thoughts as I rode to work, 
> traversing ice for the first time ever! 
>
> Ben "IT'S GONNA BLOW" in Omaha
>
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[RBW] Re: Can anybody ID this saddle bag support rack?

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It’s a Nitto uplift, though I don’t know the number. Uses the same seat 
post clamp as the R10.
I used it with a Carradice Barley bag on the GAP and C trails, Pittsburgh 
to DC. Got mine at one of the Riv yard sales a dozen years ago. 
Interestingly, it had the same HB tape wrappings to keep the bag straps 
centered.
Recommend that you Loctite the single M8 bolt — There is a lot of stress on 
it! Mine loosened up with all the jouncing and stripped the threads. Once 
back home I got an M10 bolt and tap and retapped the aluminum clamp.
Also recommend that you run a strap from the saddle rails to the top of the 
hoop as extra insurance.
Best,
David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA


On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 1:59:05 PM UTC-8 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Got it from a member on list for my Sackville Saddlesack, but was hoping 
> to look for inspiration on ways to use it in other ways. I'm likely going 
> to use it in the config setup in the bottom photo, but hoping to get 
> creative. 
>
> Best, 
> Nikko
>
> [image: IMG_5378.jpeg][image: Nitto.png]
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Re: [RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[James Valiensi]

Thanks for the kind words.
The Rene Herse crankset was on my list of most wanted parts for many years 
before I pulled the trigger.
It gave me a bunch of grief. It came loose several times. It wasn’t the 1st 
time I mounted a taper spindle crank set. I’ve done hundreds of times. The only 
time one came loose for me, was the very first time I did it. I couldn’t 
believe this one. I ended up using a breaker bar to tighten it down.
This was the end of my desire to send Jan Hein any more money. He has 
absolutely no customer service. No phone number listed, no responses to 
multiple emails, no help or support. He has all my contact info but refuses to 
give his out. He has nice parts, too bad they are not sold by better people.


> On Dec 17, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Dave Redmon  wrote:
> 
> That's a looker for sure, James. What is the beautiful crankset?  I recall 
> having one like it a few years ago.   --Dave in Kansas
> 
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:13:28 AM UTC-6 James Valiensi wrote:
> I’ve had my Rivendell custom since Feb 2003. It’s been thru several 
> iterations. I just fitted the Losco handle bars and long stem. The red pedals 
> are hideous, don’t you think? 
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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Dave Redmon]

That's a looker for sure, James. What is the beautiful crankset?  I recall 
having one like it a few years ago.   --Dave in Kansas

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:13:28 AM UTC-6 James Valiensi wrote:

> I’ve had my Rivendell custom since Feb 2003. It’s been thru several 
> iterations. I just fitted the Losco handle bars and long stem. The red 
> pedals are hideous, don’t you think? 
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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Well, if you’re gonna be like Pam you better get a physical first - that’s 
a pretty optimistic mileage goal! We might just tip over.

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:17:58 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Between you and this person that's a whole lotta Riv mileage every year. 
> When I get my normal riding schedule back I know what I need to do: Be more 
> like Leah and Pam! 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> [image: B297903F-9F56-4545-8742-AAD171CCCE34.jpeg][image: 
>> 89AC1AA1-D92E-4A84-AD82-94D140C20E72.jpeg][image: 
>> 390C0DAD-BF2F-495C-9B1D-ED16B7D642DC.jpeg][image: 
>> 238E117F-7E3D-4CE1-973F-54E3640EB72F.jpeg]
>>
>> I have been so inspired lately by one Pamela Murray out of Charlotte, who 
>> rides a tiny 2011 Betty Foy. She is known to her community for her bike 
>> activism and her bike safety course, Cycling Savvy. We “met” on social 
>> media.
>>
>> The reason I find her so inspiring is her impressive mileage on her 
>> Rivendell. She began riding an Electra Townie (2006, I believe) and put 
>> 5800 miles on it. In 2011, she bought her Betty Foy and she has now logged 
>> an impressive *50,200* miles on her Betty. 
>>
>> 50,200 miles. Since 2011. Just take that in for a moment...
>>
>> Pamela rides rain or shine, everywhere, and for any reason. While some of 
>> us are obsessing over n+1, upgrades, or aesthetics, she’s out there in the 
>> true spirit of Rivendell, riding the wheels off her Riv and inspiring her 
>> community to do the same. You can see her around town hauling pieces of 
>> furniture she finds curbside, or donating 85 pounds of food she hauled for 
>> Cranksgiving, growing her “bike benefits” program, and teaching others to 
>> safely cycle in the city. 
>>
>> Pamela is half my size and 5x as tough, and I doff my polka dot Nutcase 
>> helmet to her. She. Is. The. Queen.
>>
>> Leah
>> PS I had Pam’s permission to post this thread and her photos.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Patrick Moore]

Actually, I expect he may well be such a casualty. At any rate, I have just
emailed him (I hope) and will report any news I am authorized to report
back to the list.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:27 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> This comment is not necessary. We're in a pandemic and many of us are
> genuinely concerned about Deacon Patrick. It is his way to drop off the
> list for months at a time, but this is not a normal time. I hope Other
> Patrick hears from him soon.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Another casualty of the attempted Reparations Fund?
>>
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:20 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

[Joe Bernard]

Between you and this person that's a whole lotta Riv mileage every year. 
When I get my normal riding schedule back I know what I need to do: Be more 
like Leah and Pam! 



On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> [image: B297903F-9F56-4545-8742-AAD171CCCE34.jpeg][image: 
> 89AC1AA1-D92E-4A84-AD82-94D140C20E72.jpeg][image: 
> 390C0DAD-BF2F-495C-9B1D-ED16B7D642DC.jpeg][image: 
> 238E117F-7E3D-4CE1-973F-54E3640EB72F.jpeg]
>
> I have been so inspired lately by one Pamela Murray out of Charlotte, who 
> rides a tiny 2011 Betty Foy. She is known to her community for her bike 
> activism and her bike safety course, Cycling Savvy. We “met” on social 
> media.
>
> The reason I find her so inspiring is her impressive mileage on her 
> Rivendell. She began riding an Electra Townie (2006, I believe) and put 
> 5800 miles on it. In 2011, she bought her Betty Foy and she has now logged 
> an impressive *50,200* miles on her Betty. 
>
> 50,200 miles. Since 2011. Just take that in for a moment...
>
> Pamela rides rain or shine, everywhere, and for any reason. While some of 
> us are obsessing over n+1, upgrades, or aesthetics, she’s out there in the 
> true spirit of Rivendell, riding the wheels off her Riv and inspiring her 
> community to do the same. You can see her around town hauling pieces of 
> furniture she finds curbside, or donating 85 pounds of food she hauled for 
> Cranksgiving, growing her “bike benefits” program, and teaching others to 
> safely cycle in the city. 
>
> Pamela is half my size and 5x as tough, and I doff my polka dot Nutcase 
> helmet to her. She. Is. The. Queen.
>
> Leah
> PS I had Pam’s permission to post this thread and her photos.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Alex K]

Let's hope he's happy, healthy and too busy riding to chime in.  A divisive 
issue that doesn't need revisiting.  Just reliving really heated arguments 
I've had about The Fund and wishing it had not outed a couple of people who 
I was astonished to find had such strong viewpoints that ran counter to 
mine.  To each their own.  Raising a glass to Deacon now.

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:27:27 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This comment is not necessary. We're in a pandemic and many of us are 
> genuinely concerned about Deacon Patrick. It is his way to drop off the 
> list for months at a time, but this is not a normal time. I hope Other 
> Patrick hears from him soon. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Another casualty of the attempted Reparations Fund?  
>>
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:20 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Joe Bernard]

This comment is not necessary. We're in a pandemic and many of us are 
genuinely concerned about Deacon Patrick. It is his way to drop off the 
list for months at a time, but this is not a normal time. I hope Other 
Patrick hears from him soon. 



On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another casualty of the attempted Reparations Fund?  
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:20 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>>
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Re: [RBW] 19-year old Riv

[Ben Mihovk]

Yeah, they've got them on the Riv website, too. I looked right after I
posted, but thanks! Your link got me to poke around the Paul website, which
is always a worthwhile endeavor.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:00 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:

> Short answer: they do.
>
> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brake-levers/long-pull/love-lever/
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:16:21 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Those PAUL brake levers are just plain dope. Wowza.
>>
>> Ben "Checking to See if Paul Makes those for V-Brakes" in Omaha
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 11:11 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to add that my Joe Starck 26" wheel fixie gofast road custom is
>>> getting on for 22 years next April. It gets ridden less these days than the
>>> dirt road bikes or the new Matthews fixed/3 speed road bike, but I took it
>>> out yesterday and man, once again as always over the years, it just feels
>>> (1) comfortable like well broken in, high-quality shoes, and (2) just is
>>> easy to pedal. Like coming home.
>>>
>>> James: Your custom is getting on for 18 years. 2021 - 2003 = 18. That's
>>> all right, it will grow up.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:08 AM Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Very nice!

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:13 AM James Valiensi 
 wrote:

> I’ve had my Rivendell custom since Feb 2003. It’s been thru several
> iterations. I just fitted the Losco handle bars and long stem. The red
> pedals are hideous, don’t you think?
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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Alex K]

Another casualty of the attempted Reparations Fund?  

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:20 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
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Re: [RBW] 19-year old Riv

[Jeremy Till]

Short answer: they do. 

https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brake-levers/long-pull/love-lever/

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:16:21 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Those PAUL brake levers are just plain dope. Wowza. 
>
> Ben "Checking to See if Paul Makes those for V-Brakes" in Omaha
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 11:11 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Forgot to add that my Joe Starck 26" wheel fixie gofast road custom is 
>> getting on for 22 years next April. It gets ridden less these days than the 
>> dirt road bikes or the new Matthews fixed/3 speed road bike, but I took it 
>> out yesterday and man, once again as always over the years, it just feels 
>> (1) comfortable like well broken in, high-quality shoes, and (2) just is 
>> easy to pedal. Like coming home.
>>
>> James: Your custom is getting on for 18 years. 2021 - 2003 = 18. That's 
>> all right, it will grow up.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 10:08 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:13 AM James Valiensi  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’ve had my Rivendell custom since Feb 2003. It’s been thru several 
 iterations. I just fitted the Losco handle bars and long stem. The red 
 pedals are hideous, don’t you think? 

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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[dougP]

Actually, I think the red pedals are kinda cool.  Touch of whimsy?  Always 
neat to see an "old bike" that looks brand new & is well maintained. 

I took delivery of my Atlantis in April '03, but it looks like an old 
delivery van compared to your bike.  I used to do an annual paint touch up 
but gave up after a few years.  Let's just say it's well traveled & looks 
it.  

dougP



On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:13:28 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> I’ve had my Rivendell custom since Feb 2003. It’s been thru several 
> iterations. I just fitted the Losco handle bars and long stem. The red 
> pedals are hideous, don’t you think? 
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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Riv Riders: Pamela Murray

[dougP]

Talk about a working bike.  That chair thing is impressive.  This shows the 
versatility & utility of Rivendells, and the creativity of people who ride 
them.  She's a great example.

dougP

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:10:44 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> [image: B297903F-9F56-4545-8742-AAD171CCCE34.jpeg][image: 
> 89AC1AA1-D92E-4A84-AD82-94D140C20E72.jpeg][image: 
> 390C0DAD-BF2F-495C-9B1D-ED16B7D642DC.jpeg][image: 
> 238E117F-7E3D-4CE1-973F-54E3640EB72F.jpeg]
>
> I have been so inspired lately by one Pamela Murray out of Charlotte, who 
> rides a tiny 2011 Betty Foy. She is known to her community for her bike 
> activism and her bike safety course, Cycling Savvy. We “met” on social 
> media.
>
> The reason I find her so inspiring is her impressive mileage on her 
> Rivendell. She began riding an Electra Townie (2006, I believe) and put 
> 5800 miles on it. In 2011, she bought her Betty Foy and she has now logged 
> an impressive *50,200* miles on her Betty. 
>
> 50,200 miles. Since 2011. Just take that in for a moment...
>
> Pamela rides rain or shine, everywhere, and for any reason. While some of 
> us are obsessing over n+1, upgrades, or aesthetics, she’s out there in the 
> true spirit of Rivendell, riding the wheels off her Riv and inspiring her 
> community to do the same. You can see her around town hauling pieces of 
> furniture she finds curbside, or donating 85 pounds of food she hauled for 
> Cranksgiving, growing her “bike benefits” program, and teaching others to 
> safely cycle in the city. 
>
> Pamela is half my size and 5x as tough, and I doff my polka dot Nutcase 
> helmet to her. She. Is. The. Queen.
>
> Leah
> PS I had Pam’s permission to post this thread and her photos.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Deacon Patrick's email address

[True Golden]

I miss Deacon Patrick's participation on this list.

Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Aluminum Fenders for Babyshoe Pass

[Bones]

Wow that is beautiful!

Bones

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 10:15:45 AM UTC-5 S. Greco wrote:

> That coast is beautiful!
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:57:31 AM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike Andy.
>> David Hays
>> Buffalo
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:28 AM, Bones  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the input! 
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 4:13:06 PM UTC-5 Kieran J wrote:
>>
>>> You might also consider the VO Zepplin 52mm:
>>> https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-polished-52mm-zeppelin-fenders-650b
>>>
>>> These are my favourite fenders (700c version).
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:17:25 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
 I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to dig it up. 
 I'm looking at Rene Herse and Honjo (or anything else). I've only ever 
 used 
 SKS in the past. Which size is my best bet?

 Babyshoe Pass (standard casing)
 Velocity A23 rims (set up tubeless)
 Crust Lightning Bolt Canti

 Much appreciated,
 Bones

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Re: [RBW] 19-year old Riv

[James Valiensi]

Hi,
I’m a regular parts changer, I like to try different combinations. But this is 
really close to the first build.
The fenders and headset are original. The shifters are the same thing, but new 
because the originals are missing parts.
The wheels are about ten years old. They are lightweight for racing bikes but 
are strong and feel super fast.
The tires are a Specialized cottons. Its my second set, I worn one set out this 
year. I highly recommend these tires.
The rear derailleur came with my wife’s Clementine. I replaced an older Ultegra 
long cage with it and was surprised to find a noticeable difference in chain 
drag. The bigger wheels do make a difference. 
The 1st Brooks saddle was replaced in kind.
The Campy Nouvo Record seat post has a filing job, that I learned from the late 
Brian Baylis. 
Original brakes where Shimano long reach, then Velo Orange came out with the 
Grand Creu billet jobs. They are very good brakes. I just got the Paul levers, 
the  high polish remind me of Harley Davidson parts.

I’ve tried a front rack and this bikes handling get much worse with it on. 
Actually, the steering on this bike is not neutral. It likes to dance around 
and tucks in towards the center of curves. It takes me a few rides to get use 
to it, if I don’t ride it regularly. Grant & Curt blew it here.

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Collin A  wrote:
> 
> That is an immaculate bike, and I actually like the pop of red on those 
> pedals!
> 
> Is this version 19.1, or has is stayed mostly the same throughout those 19 
> years?
> 
> Cheers,
> Collin, almost as young as Rivendell, in Sacramento
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:30:03 AM UTC-8 Damien wrote:
> Well, wow. This is a really lovely Riv. Thanks for sharing.
> 
> Fun fact: your bike is legal drinking age in Canada!
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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all, including Philip who replied separately. I'll give him a ring,
and I will report any news.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:07 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I don't have it, and his website link is dead. Does anyone have it?
>
> Thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Collin A]

That is an immaculate bike, and I actually like the pop of red on those 
pedals!

Is this version 19.1, or has is stayed mostly the same throughout those 19 
years?

Cheers,
Collin, almost as young as Rivendell, in Sacramento


On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:30:03 AM UTC-8 Damien wrote:

> Well, wow. This is a really lovely Riv. Thanks for sharing.
>
> Fun fact: your bike is legal drinking age in Canada!
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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Damien]

Well, wow. This is a really lovely Riv. Thanks for sharing.

Fun fact: your bike is legal drinking age in Canada!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Alex K]

Not to beat a dead horse, but Clems are $900 for the frame, $1650 for the 
very very reasonable stock Riv build, and it would be hard to get out of 
Walnut Creek without spending at least $2300 on a custom build ($900 
frame/$1400 build including the $250 minimum labor fee.)   So, a new 
non-stock, fully-built Clem could not really ever classify as a $900 bike. 
 Not saying I agree with any of the stylistic choices made on this 
particular build, but I hate to see anybody lose money, especially on this 
forum, where I've had such good fortune with buying and selling, and have 
seen and experienced no small amount of altruism.  Hoping the seller 
recoups some of their cash!

P.S.  If anybody has a "$900 Clem H' laying around, I'll take 2!

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 6:12:45 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:

> I think Joe is still on the high side. Pre-Covid, a used stock Clem H is a 
> $900 bike (bought and sold my own around that price). This is a nicer build 
> and crazy times, but not THAT much crazier. I’m guessing $1600 or so is 
> where it will land. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I personally think that's a $2000 bike but I'm not selling or buying. In 
>> the end it's worth exactly what buyer and seller agree to and more power to 
>> 'em. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking about this $3200 Clem H..Is that way way way too much to 
>>> ask for this bike?   The frame itself was, what, $800?  With tax, call it 
>>> $880.  Seems like if you add up all the parts, bike trinkets, etc.. this 
>>> person probably poured about $3500 total for what looks to be a labour of 
>>> (possibly misplaced) love?  Coupled with the fact that the Clem H might 
>>> never make a comeback (though I hear that we might have a Return Of The H 
>>> advocate in the upper reaches of management at RBW), I think $3200 seems 
>>> almost fair.  Plus,  does anybody ever pay full price on Craigslist?  Of 
>>> course, I always end up paying full price and always end up taking the 
>>> first offer I get, no matter how low it may be, because I have absolutely 
>>> ZERO negotiating skills.  So I'm thinking the final price here will be 
>>> $2750, depending on the patience/desperation level of the seller.  
>>> Definitely not the most elegant build I've seen, and not sure it's the 
>>> buildout that was intended for old ClemH, but it definitely seems like 
>>> somebody knew what they wanted, and poured some hard-earned cash into it.  
>>> Would love to know how much this one fetches.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Oh the price is ludicrous. He'll learn this soon enough..



 On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 2:33:16 PM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:

> At three grand, it should include a guy that follows you around and 
> polishes it between rides to keep it so clean. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, Joe Bernard  
> wrote:
>
>> 59cm Clem H, grilver, really clean build. 
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7247924038.html
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and 
>>> sites beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be 
>>> interested. 
>>> This thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people 
>>> who 
>>> are searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check 
>>> this 
>>> out!" Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>>
>>> 61cm Roadini
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>>
>>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>>
>>> 52cm Clementine
>>>
>>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>>>
>>> 65cm Redwood
>>>
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>>>
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[RBW] ISO- Banana bag

[Rich Powers]

I'm looking for a Banana bag in good condition or better. I see Riv. have
new blue bags, looking to see if there is anything else a bit more
budget-friendly. I am flexible on color and brand, I know there have been
many variations over the year. I suspect this is a tough ask, seems they
are in short supply. Cash or lots of random trade items!

What do you have??

Rich
Des Moines

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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[jtallman]

https://deaconpatrick.org/about-tptp

Link to an email address here on his web site.

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 2:08:14 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I don't have it, and his website link is dead. Does anyone have it?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] Aluminum Fenders for Babyshoe Pass

[S. Greco]

That coast is beautiful!

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:57:31 AM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:

> Beautiful bike Andy.
> David Hays
> Buffalo
>
> On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:28 AM, Bones  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input! 
>
> Bones
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 4:13:06 PM UTC-5 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> You might also consider the VO Zepplin 52mm:
>> https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-polished-52mm-zeppelin-fenders-650b
>>
>> These are my favourite fenders (700c version).
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:17:25 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to dig it up. I'm 
>>> looking at Rene Herse and Honjo (or anything else). I've only ever used SKS 
>>> in the past. Which size is my best bet?
>>>
>>> Babyshoe Pass (standard casing)
>>> Velocity A23 rims (set up tubeless)
>>> Crust Lightning Bolt Canti
>>>
>>> Much appreciated,
>>> Bones
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Bleriot by the Lake

[Andy Williams]

>From December 2 this year, when we had a record Seattle December heat wave 
of 60 degrees

A



On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Isn't that the wrong season? Gray and brown and icy here in the high SW 
> desert, at least in the mornings.
>
> But beautiful!
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:27 PM Andy Williams  wrote:
>
>> Just a photo of my Bleriot by Lake Washington from awhile ago, when we 
>> had sun and a clear view of Mt. Rainier...
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO front SKS fender for 26 in wheels

[RichS]

Pam,

Almost certain I have one collecting dust. I'll verify this morning and get 
back to you.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 10:02:04 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Wanted to see if anyone might have a front fender for a 26 in wheel.  
> They're the P55s.  I'd like the older ones without the rubber mudguard on 
> the end.  I'd rather put on a leather mudflap.  I'll take that one off.  
> And I find the clearance is tight and it's hard to not get it to rub.  I 
> have a rear but only need a front one.  Anyone?

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[RBW] Re: FS- Rivs on I-Bob 68cm Bombadil, 62cm Sam, 53cm Atlantis

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bump,

Lots of interest no deals or OBO’s hence Holliday COVID-19 discounts
68cm Bombadil $1200
62cm Sam Hillborne $1000
53cm Atlantis wCouplers (full bike) $2100

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 7:38:59 PM UTC-5 Abcyclehank wrote:

> Can get posts up here.
> Still failing with pictures across most of Google groups
>
> Can text photos if you email me a number.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
> (616928-4226
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Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Addison Wilhite]

I was also wondering why he dropped off the list...hope he's ok?!

Regards,

Addison Wilhite, M.A.

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

*“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*

Portfolio and Blog 


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 6:36 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have wondered about him a lot. I hope you hear back from him, and if so,
> I hope you’ll tell us how he is.
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:14:11 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Found it, emailed to you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:08:14 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have it, and his website link is dead. Does anyone have it?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> One Of The Other Patricks
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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I have wondered about him a lot. I hope you hear back from him, and if so, 
I hope you’ll tell us how he is.

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:14:11 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Found it, emailed to you. 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:08:14 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I don't have it, and his website link is dead. Does anyone have it?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Anyone else a paranoid mechanic?

[Eric Daume]

I leave my bars noticeably crooked when the bike is in the stand so I know
I will have to straighten and tighten them before my test ride.

Eric

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Oh yes, I worry. Especially because - after decades of doing this stuff -
> I still have a terrible habit of snugging the bars in the stand and telling
> myself I'll get back to that bolt later to make sure it's tight. I always
> forget and my first ride is always met with the bars slipping in the first
> few feet. I can't trust my mechanic!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 7:02:53 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Laing!
>> Thanks for that write up! Most of those are the tips/things I definitely
>> did after my downhill blowout. I'll likely try the max PSI trick and
>> inspect the raised line again. I think I got it nailed and figured out, I
>> just wondered if anyone who checks the boxes and learns from their mistakes
>> still has that creeping feeling that it's all going to fall apart.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>> Ben
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:33 AM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> There are two things.
>>> One. Push the entire tire, both sides, to the center of the rim off of
>>> the bead seat before inflating so that you can see that there is no tube
>>> under the tire.
>>> Two. inflate the tire in stages - 1st inflate the tire to 15-20 PSIG and
>>> then inspect the tire to rim interface. On all tires, there is a molded-in,
>>> small, raised line around the tire just above the tire-rim interface. At
>>> low pressures, this may still be below the rim, if there are any places
>>> where this line is a noticeable distance from the rim, it may indicate a
>>> problem - deflate, inspect, adjust. As you raise the pressure in stages the
>>> line should eventually even out at a constant distance from the rim as it
>>> seats on the rim - you can pull on the tire at the low and intermediate
>>> pressures to help it out. Some tires seat immediately, some require a lot
>>> of fiddling. It may require going to the tire maximum pressure to seat the
>>> tire. Then you can release pressure as required. This is generally only
>>> required for new tires, they kind of take a set as they break in and
>>> stretch.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Still uses tubes
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey all!
 I just threw on Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires (700x40) on the
 Atlantis. Sad to see the Shikoros all deflated and and sitting in the
 corner, but it was either they take a timeout or I don't ride to work. Easy
 choice.

 So I've been riding as an adult over a year now and started with an
 affordable Linus with 28mm tires and promptly got a flat my third or fourth
 time out on it. I took the wheel over, unseated the bead, got the tube out,
 patched it, put it back in, reseated the bead, yadda yadda yadda, BOOM. No
 issue. Had another flat this last summer and had to repair it while on the
 way home from picking up a crowler of beer...very stressful, almost lost my
 wrench, but got it done, not a problem!

 Later this last summer as piece-by-piece Riv'd up my Linus, I wen to
 35mm tires. Took off the old ones, did all the steps, and as I was pumping
 up the front tire, the tube blew out (some tube was under the bead...DOH!).
 So I laughed it off, changed the tube, did the rear wheel, and went out for
 a ride. All was going well, then on a fast descent, when I started breaking
 I heard an awful thud-thud-thud-thud that was getting louder and BANG! I
 screwed up the back wheel, too! So re-did both tires, used soapy water,
 thought about using talc, but I couldn't find any locally and Sheldon Brown
 says it does nothing...I never had another problem.

 So I guess I'm wondering this (if you've managed to read this far)...at
 what point can you be absolutely sure that tube is not pinched between bead
 and rim? Can you ever be sure? is my bike a ticking time bomb? :)

 Just wanted to share my neurotic thoughts as I rode to work, traversing
 ice for the first time ever!

 Ben "IT'S GONNA BLOW" in Omaha

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Eric Daume]

I think Joe is still on the high side. Pre-Covid, a used stock Clem H is a
$900 bike (bought and sold my own around that price). This is a nicer build
and crazy times, but not THAT much crazier. I’m guessing $1600 or so is
where it will land.

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I personally think that's a $2000 bike but I'm not selling or buying. In
> the end it's worth exactly what buyer and seller agree to and more power to
> 'em.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Thinking about this $3200 Clem H..Is that way way way too much to ask
>> for this bike?   The frame itself was, what, $800?  With tax, call it
>> $880.  Seems like if you add up all the parts, bike trinkets, etc.. this
>> person probably poured about $3500 total for what looks to be a labour of
>> (possibly misplaced) love?  Coupled with the fact that the Clem H might
>> never make a comeback (though I hear that we might have a Return Of The H
>> advocate in the upper reaches of management at RBW), I think $3200 seems
>> almost fair.  Plus,  does anybody ever pay full price on Craigslist?  Of
>> course, I always end up paying full price and always end up taking the
>> first offer I get, no matter how low it may be, because I have absolutely
>> ZERO negotiating skills.  So I'm thinking the final price here will be
>> $2750, depending on the patience/desperation level of the seller.
>> Definitely not the most elegant build I've seen, and not sure it's the
>> buildout that was intended for old ClemH, but it definitely seems like
>> somebody knew what they wanted, and poured some hard-earned cash into it.
>> Would love to know how much this one fetches.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 2:35:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh the price is ludicrous. He'll learn this soon enough..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 2:33:16 PM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 At three grand, it should include a guy that follows you around and
 polishes it between rides to keep it so clean.

 On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> 59cm Clem H, grilver, really clean build.
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-
> clem-smith-jr-59cm/7247924038.html
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and
>> sites beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested.
>> This thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who
>> are searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this
>> out!" Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>
>> 61cm Roadini
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>
>> 58cm Quickbeam
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-
>> quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>
>> 52cm Clementine
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-
>> rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>>
>> 65cm Redwood
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-
>> rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] Aluminum Fenders for Babyshoe Pass

[David Hays]

Beautiful bike Andy.
David Hays
Buffalo

> On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:28 AM, Bones  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the input! 
> 
> Bones
> 
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 4:13:06 PM UTC-5 Kieran J wrote:
> You might also consider the VO Zepplin 52mm:
> https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-polished-52mm-zeppelin-fenders-650b 
> 
> 
> These are my favourite fenders (700c version).
> 
> KJ
> 
> 
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:17:25 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
> I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to dig it up. I'm 
> looking at Rene Herse and Honjo (or anything else). I've only ever used SKS 
> in the past. Which size is my best bet?
> 
> Babyshoe Pass (standard casing)
> Velocity A23 rims (set up tubeless)
> Crust Lightning Bolt Canti
> 
> Much appreciated,
> Bones
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[RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick's email address

[Joe Bernard]

Found it, emailed to you. 



On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:08:14 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I don't have it, and his website link is dead. Does anyone have it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> One Of The Other Patricks
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