Re: [RBW] Has anyone shellacked cushioned Newbaum's?

[brendonoid]

Many years ago I did this and it worked fine. Can't easily access a photo 
for you. 
The shellacking doesn't stay that super hard sandpapery feel as long but 
the colour holds and it still maintains its protective abilities.
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 06:46:01 UTC+8 Sam Perez wrote:

> I was just wondering that this morning, great question.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 9, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Brett Callahan  wrote:
>
> If so, would you share a picture and/or your impressions? I'm curious as 
> to how A) it looks; and, B) how the cush underneath works with the hard 
> tape on top. 
>
>
> I've double wrapped with unpadded Newbaum's and shellacked on the top 
> layer with good success. I'm wondering if this would work out similarly. 
>
> Thanks!
> Brett in PDX
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Re: [RBW] What is the seller's safety with PayPal and other payments.

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I've had several successful bikes and parts buys-and-sells on Craigslist 
(and here!) and typically use Paypal, Venmo, or cash. But definitely 
beware. Someone in NYC recently was selling a Crust Romanceur complete bike 
and had it stolen by a prospective buyer who took it for a "test ride" and 
never came back. I've also heard of companies being on the hook for 
thousands of dollars in merchandise after selling via PayPal and the buyer 
claiming fraud. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:24:20 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> As a seller on eBay I got burned. Sold a Sony camera and shipped to an 
> address the buyer requested. It turned out that eBay recommends never send 
> a package to any address other than the one on the eBay buyers account. The 
> buyer paid via CC through PayPal and opened a claim that they never bought 
> the item. eBay washed their hands of it since as far as they were concerned 
> the transaction was successfully completed. It went to PayPal and the 
> credit card company for an investigation. After 30 days the CC company 
> ruled in favor of the CC holder claiming it was fraud. As the seller I lost 
> close to a thousand. At the time I was a infrequent seller and really 
> wasn't versed in the intricacies of the eBay market place. I haven't sold 
> anything on eBay since.
>
> I think in this age it's Buyer and seller beware. There are scoundrel's on 
> both sides of the fence. 
>
> In terms of this and the iBoB group I have never had a bad experience. I 
> hope that remains the case. I have always offered PayPal as the method of 
> payment with a friends and family designation believing we are on the honor 
> system and saving folks some money. If a buyer want the G&S protection than 
> I'll pass that fee onto them. 
>
> Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA  
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:35:13 PM UTC-8 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PayPal now has a third option, which I discovered last night when I paid 
>> an RBWer for a shirt: The buyer pays through Friends & Family, but pays an 
>> additional fee on their own end to preserve their buyer protection (e.g., 
>> seller pockets money then sends damaged product/product not meeting presale 
>> description/sends no merch at all). This displaces the standard seller 
>> concern (*the percentage comes out of my end!*) while allaying some of 
>> the buyer's equally valid concerns when dealing with a seller they don't 
>> know IRL (*how do I know you're not going to rob me?*)
>>
>> Most of the voiced complaints re PayPal/Venmo/Apple Pay etc. around here 
>> are those of sellers who think they've gotten burned, or who fear they 
>> might get burned. As a person who's been exclusively on the buyer end for 
>> 25 years, and who is still wrestling with eBay/PayPal over a $750 laptop 
>> that was allegedly "delivered" by FedEx (where the only evidence for a 
>> delivery is a BS FedEx delivery/tracking notice - I was standing on my 
>> porch when FedEx claims to have "delivered" it, and there was no truck), 
>> for which the commercial seller refuses to accept any liability (even 
>> though they said they didn't trust FedEx, for obviously good reason)...may 
>> I say that I think there are two sides to this issue, and I'm glad that 
>> someone with muscle is at least willing to pretend to contend for my 
>> interest. Because otherwise, I'd be out the price of a lot of bicycles, 
>> with nothing to show for it and nowhere to seek redress.
>>
>> And let's not ignore that in a lot of metro areas, there's a long history 
>> of attractive Craigslist ads as bait, placed simply to set buyers up to be 
>> mugged for the cash brought as payment for non-existant goods. In San 
>> Francisco (CL Central), the problem got so bad that the SFPD had a setup 
>> for awhile where exchange of payment/goods for CL purchases could happen 
>> under police supervision, in the parking lots of police stations.
>>
>> Sure, seller beware. But buyer beware, too. There's a reason that the 
>> latter one is a commonplace saying, and the former one isn't.
>>
>> As for "hearing of cases", I think that's a show-your-work thing. As I 
>> read it, once I send money F&F, it's gone; I have no way to get it back, 
>> whether the seller makes good on the transaction or not. Members of this 
>> group should note that every PayPal payment I've made to anyone here has 
>> always been F&F; this reflects not so much my trust of people's inherent 
>> decency (only people who don't know me would think I'm like that) as my 
>> pinchpennyness, my fatalism, and my hope for intolerable social censure in 
>> the event the transaction goes south.
>>
>> One thing to consider is, if a seller isn't willing to pay the Goods & 
>> Services fee to offer protection to a buyer (a fee which they should be 
>> incorporating into the total sales price, just as would happen with a 
>> shipping fee), why should a buyer trust them? Personally, if I insisted on 
>> buying a big-ticket item from a buyer too far away for m

Re: [RBW] Bike Snob Today!

[Pat Smith]

I feel so called out. Gold. 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:23:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> He still has it. This is actually one of his better ones.
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:09 AM Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
>> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>>
>>
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

[Michael Morrissey]

The writing of that Radavist article is so convoluted that it makes me 
confused as to how those bikes actually might feel. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:07:29 PM UTC-5 Scott G. wrote:

> Bike Snob might be responding to this post on the Radavist.
>
> Free Range Flannel and sustainably harvested whale grease not included.
>
>
> https://theradavist.com/2021/03/excepts-from-chapter-two-of-the-field-guide-to-tanglefootism-a-look-at-tanglefoot-cycles-discord-components-and-fifth-season-canvas/
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>>
>>
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

[Philip Barrett]

I think that was written by James & Candace at Analog?

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:10:52 AM UTC-8 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> The writing of that Radavist article is so convoluted that it makes me 
> confused as to how those bikes actually might feel. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:07:29 PM UTC-5 Scott G. wrote:
>
>> Bike Snob might be responding to this post on the Radavist.
>>
>> Free Range Flannel and sustainably harvested whale grease not included.
>>
>>
>> https://theradavist.com/2021/03/excepts-from-chapter-two-of-the-field-guide-to-tanglefootism-a-look-at-tanglefoot-cycles-discord-components-and-fifth-season-canvas/
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
>>>
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[RBW] ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

[Brendan Willard in SF]

In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you all 
to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset when 
moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c wheelsets 
(rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  

Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.

Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for another, 
and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.

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[RBW] WTB - 68cm Atlantis

[Jacob P]

Hiya all, 
I'm in search of an elusive 68cm Atlantis. Anyone have a complete or f/f 
and/or bb they have sitting around that they wouldn't mind parting with? 
Thanks very much!

Jacob
Charlottesville, VA

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[RBW] Specialized Comp Multi Stem 130mm, +/- 24 degrees, black, threadless

[eddietheflay]

*Specialized Comp Multi Stem 130mm, +/- 24 degrees, black*
go really low or high and be able to adjust with 3 shims, 0 degrees, +/- 2, 
and +/-4. Top cap included.

Been installed once but as new condition, no blems.

Like this:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/co...m=719676120119 


$45 net to me will include shipping to you. 

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[RBW] Re: Specialized Comp Multi Stem 130mm, +/- 24 degrees, black, threadless

[eddietheflay]

I know this is not Riv-ish but thought someone who has gone threadless 
might be interested.

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 10:34:18 AM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote:

> *Specialized Comp Multi Stem 130mm, +/- 24 degrees, black*
> go really low or high and be able to adjust with 3 shims, 0 degrees, +/- 
> 2, and +/-4. Top cap included.
>
> Been installed once but as new condition, no blems.
>
> Like this:
>
> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/co...m=719676120119 
> 
>
> $45 net to me will include shipping to you. 
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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

[Todd Porter]

velomine has this:  
https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=235_312&products_id=6004&zenid=983amrvtm677nkrtp9775c7e54
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 11:03:50 AM UTC-6 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>
> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>
> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Brendan,
Am I correct in assuming that we’re talking 135mm OLN rear in all cases?
Are yours 32 hole or 36?
Do you want 32 or 36?
What are the spoke types used in your wheel set(s)?
Thanks,
David (jes thinking... if I should get a Platypus...) Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:03:50 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>
> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>
> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

[Brendan Willard in SF]

ISO: Correct, 100/135 for a Clem. 32 or 36 would be fine. Preferably wide 
rims.

Mine:
LX to Synergy are 32h
deore/DH-3n72 to DYAD are 36h
Rich build, so I'm guessing DT Swiss double-butted spokes (silver) 14/15/14g

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 11:58:24 AM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Hi Brendan,
> Am I correct in assuming that we’re talking 135mm OLN rear in all cases?
> Are yours 32 hole or 36?
> Do you want 32 or 36?
> What are the spoke types used in your wheel set(s)?
> Thanks,
> David (jes thinking... if I should get a Platypus...) Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:03:50 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
> wrote:
>
>> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
>> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
>> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
>> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>>
>> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>>
>> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
>> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[David Person]

Patrick wrote - "I'll be interested to hear, about the Oracle Ridge, how 
wide it actually is on your Quills (24.5/21, I see), *and* how well they 
roll on pavement compared to the SPs."

It may be awhile Patrick.  I plan on building up a Surly Disc Trucker, 
using the Quill rims and Oricle Ridge tires, but the due date for the frame 
sets keep getting pushed back, now sometime in May, though that subject to 
change.  But, I do have the wheels built and tires mounted.  So the 46mm I 
mentioned is the mounted width inflated to 30 psi.

I do believe that the wider the rim, the wider the mounted tire width would 
be. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:17:39 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

> I run Velocity Atlas rims (on my Sam) and Velocity Dyad rims (on my 
> tourer).  I do mostly pavement riding.
> I’ve run Continental Speed Ride tires for 5 years.  I haven’t had a flat 
> with them, ever (though that's probably just luck).  I run them at 50 psi.
> They only come in one size - 622 x 42.  They cost about $25.  My last set 
> went 5000 miles.
>
> Try them.  For the price, if you don’t like them you can pitch them 
> without remorse.  But they certainly work for me.
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB Ahearne Map bar

[Robert Blunt]

Hello everyone,
Just built up my 54 blue sam with albatross bars with 110 mm stem. I am
thinking I would be in the ideal position woth the map bars. Anyone got any?
Best,
Robert Blunt
Pennington, NJ

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

[Fullylugged]

Tough to beat that price for a useful wheel set. I just had a lighter set 
built at Universal Cycles with 32 hole A23 rims and 105 hubs for double 
that, and I thought that was still decent for nice wheels.

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:47:11 PM UTC-6 tmp1...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> velomine has this:  
> https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=235_312&products_id=6004&zenid=983amrvtm677nkrtp9775c7e54
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 11:03:50 AM UTC-6 Brendan Willard in SF 
> wrote:
>
>> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
>> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
>> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
>> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>>
>> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>>
>> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
>> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: For the Riv Sisters

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

The #RivSisters are standing up and applauding! I love that color of Clem 
and I love this photo of you standing with it!

Keep us updated about how you like it, and than you for sharing!
#RivSisters,
Leah

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:52:12 PM UTC-8 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

> In progress Clem build!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, David; at least the ORs are the right width. And as for your
delayed test ride, I'll probably procrastinate doing anything about this
bike, since I'm having too much fun on the Monocog (and the other Matthews).

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:12 PM David Person  wrote:

> Patrick wrote - "I'll be interested to hear, about the Oracle Ridge, how
> wide it actually is on your Quills (24.5/21, I see), *and* how well they
> roll on pavement compared to the SPs."
>
> It may be awhile Patrick.  I plan on building up a Surly Disc Trucker,
> using the Quill rims and Oricle Ridge tires, but the due date for the frame
> sets keep getting pushed back, now sometime in May, though that subject to
> change.  But, I do have the wheels built and tires mounted.  So the 46mm I
> mentioned is the mounted width inflated to 30 psi.
>
> I do believe that the wider the rim, the wider the mounted tire width
> would be.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:17:39 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> I run Velocity Atlas rims (on my Sam) and Velocity Dyad rims (on my
>> tourer).  I do mostly pavement riding.
>> I’ve run Continental Speed Ride tires for 5 years.  I haven’t had a flat
>> with them, ever (though that's probably just luck).  I run them at 50 psi.
>> They only come in one size - 622 x 42.  They cost about $25.  My last set
>> went 5000 miles.
>>
>> Try them.  For the price, if you don’t like them you can pitch them
>> without remorse.  But they certainly work for me.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Moving shift levers from downtube to stem

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah you got troubles. The stem mount is designed for Silver1 (or Suntour 
Sprint) dt levers, and Shimano 105, 600, Dura-Ace, et al, might work too. 
Silver2 is a tougher call because they have a larger barrel than Silver1, 
your best bet is to stick with the originals me-thinks. 



On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:59:00 PM UTC-8 Wayne Naha wrote:

> Howdy Bell-ringers!
> I have a beloved old Raleigh Gran Sport that is effectively a single speed 
> due to the shift levers being mounted on the downtube.  That was fun many 
> years ago, but I don't go there anymore.  The last time I tried was very 
> nearly a disaster.
> So I am in the middle of moving them to the stem.  I bought Riv's IRD 
> Quill Stem Mount 
> ,
>  
> and their downtube cable stops 
>  
> to 
> accomplish this.  Now I have run into a technical problem that I don't know 
> can be solved.[image: 20210310_212520.jpg]
> If you look at the picture, hopefully you can see the problem.  The cable 
> guide on the stem mount does not align with where the cable will ride on 
> the shifter.  This shifter is the Suntour Power shifter, with the internal 
> ratchet, what I believe the new Silver 2 shifters 
> 
>  are 
> modeled after.
> Has anyone ever dealt with this before?  Would the actual Silver 2 
> shifters work?
> Also, this bit seems too short:[image: 20210310_214834.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: For the Riv Sisters

[Wayne Naha]

Nice build!  Looks like you been getting it dirty, too.  Clems love that

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:52:12 PM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

> In progress Clem build!

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[RBW] Re: For the Riv Sisters

[Roberta]

Lovely color in its natural habitat.  I'm sure Grant (and us #RivSisters) 
are sure glad you're really enjoying your bike.

Roberta

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:52:12 PM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

> In progress Clem build!

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

[Roberta]

I have the takeoffs from my 2016 Joe Appaloosa from when I decided to go 
tubeless.   They are 135 spacing.  36 hole. From what Joe Bernard tells me, 
they are like these but available:   
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/velocity-made-shimano-alex-wheelset-650b-x-32h-135
   
.  PM me and I can send you the pics I took (they are still on my 
phone).$200+shipping.  And, of course, I'm on the east coast.

About 2700 non hard braking miles (I am not a rough rider no go down many 
hills).   Rims are in great shape.  Every other spoke nipple is a different 
color--blue, green, purple.

David, you SHOULD get a Platy.

Roberta

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:03:50 PM UTC-5 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>
> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>
> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>

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[RBW] Re: For the Riv Sisters

[JAS]

Nice bike!  And what a great photo...out on your bike, packed and prepared, 
not letting a little mud stop you from a good time.
Way to go, #RivSister!

Joyce

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:29:32 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> Lovely color in its natural habitat.  I'm sure Grant (and us #RivSisters) 
> are sure glad you're really enjoying your bike.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:52:12 PM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In progress Clem build!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Olive Sackville Happisack

[Jared Wilson]

Hello all,

ISO an olive Sackville Happisack in new/like new condition

Holler if you're looking to send one down the road

Thanks

Jared 

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