[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Roberta

Patrick hit the nail on the head about using liner socks inside a pair of 
wool socks.  I'll add this:
The liner should be a very thin polyproprelene sock, like Wigwam Gobi 
Desert Dri.  It wicks the moisture from your skin.
Try a thinner wool sock (main sock) to provide space for air insulation.  
 Like someone else said, your sneakers are good at blocking the wind

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:27:09 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and 
> others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because 
> the temperature is below 60*.  Yes, you read that right.  Pre-Riv, when 
> the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.”
>
> Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years.  Last year, I rode 
> when it was in the 40’s.  Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* 
> temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious!  I finally learned how 
> to dress properly for cold weather riding.  There were less crowds on the 
> trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s.
>
> I highly recommend it!
> Also, how do you keep your toes warm?  It was the only cold part of my 
> body.  I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I 
> couldn't find my wool ones).  Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*.
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] WTB: Dirt Drop Stem, Deore V-Brakes, 3x9 Trigger Shifters, & Juan Martin Bars

[nus...@gmail.com]

Hi All,

I'm in need of the following parts:

   - 80mm (ideally Nitto) dirt drop stem;
   - Deore v-brake set;
   - 3x9 Shimano-compatible trigger shifters w/ cables; and 
   - Bars like Crust's Juan Martin 
    
   bars - 26.0 diameter.

Let me know if you can help!

Thanks,

Andrew (Denver)

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[RBW] Re: Fitting 22.2mm clamp break levers to 23.8mm handlebars

[spencer robinson]

I have “opened up” the clamp on MTB shifters to use on Drops...it works 
just ok...if you had an accurate way to enlarge the diameter it would be 
better, If you don’t get them right, they slip. I agree with Joe Bernard, 
there is so much “leverage” on the brake lever perch that you might stress 
it and snap at an inopportune moment. 

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:20 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> It's a bad idea. You're taking material out of a thing designed to have 
> that much material, which isn't a huge deal for a shifter - you just lose a 
> shifter - but if you squeeze a brake lever going downhill at 25mph and the 
> clamp pops instead of pads contacting rim or disc? Buddy you got TROUBLE. 
>
>
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 8:10:40 PM UTC-7 Wayne Naha wrote:
>
>> One could take some sandpaper to the inside of the clamp area, widen the 
>> diameter.  Or is that a Really Bad Idea?  Please consider your answer, and 
>> not just a knee-jerk 'dear god no!'
>
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[RBW] FS: 650b Dynamo Wheelset - Pacenti 48mm Tires - $350 plus shipping

[David B]

Starting to part out my Redwood (still available) - offering up this wheel 
set.

650b Dynamo Wheelset.
Built by me - I'm not a professional wheel builder, but I've likely built 
50+ wheels - possibly more, I haven't kept track, but I build all of my own 
wheels and built a bunch of wheels when I used to rebuild and sell older 
frames. That is to say, I'm very comfortable building wheels at this point.

Hubs: SP PV-8 dynamo hub, Shimano RS400 rear hub, 11s, 130mm (cup/cone, so 
can easily be re-spaced to 135mm)
Spokes: 36 per wheel, stainless steel, 2.0
Rims: Alex DM18, silver, adapters for presto valve tubes
Tires: Pacenti Pari Moto 48mm, black wall, with tubes

$350 plus shipping/packing materials.
Local pickup in Chicagoland area highly preferred - can meet within 
reasonable distance.
Can ship - shipping would be actual BikeFlights or ShipBike rate plus $16 
for a box.

Send me a message off list if you're interested. 
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Bars, Tallux Stem, Tektro Brakes

[Austin B.]

Tallux and Noodle are sold.

All other items are pending.

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 9:01:56 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:

> Tallux is sold.
> Noodle is pending.
>
> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Austin B. wrote:
>
>> Cleaning out the parts bin of Riv-ish stuff. Shipping (US only) is 
>> additional. Local pickup in DC/Baltimore area is fine. 
>>
>> Here's a link to pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HsFKmkp3Z5kzpSof6
>>
>> Handlebars--no tape residue on any. Some amber shellac bleed thru on the 
>> Soma bars only.
>> *$40 - 46cm Nitto Noodle M177*
>> *$45 - 46cm Nitto Mark's Bar M178*
>> *$20 - 44cm Soma Hwy One*
>>
>> *$35 - 110mm Nitto Tallux Stem*
>>
>> *$25 - Tektro R539 F/R Brakeset*
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Austin B. in MD
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Love this story.  You show 'em and with class!
Kate

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:27:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ha! Thanks, Ed. It might be better in the storytelling than real life. 😜
>
> Oh, I found a pic of Baby Bear on his bike, in case anyone was wondering...
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I can almost visualize the scene.
> How I wish I was there to witness :-)
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:41:36 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear (he’s 
>> 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of Killer 
>> Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not the 
>> road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, the 
>> kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I looked 
>> at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>>
>> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>>
>> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
>> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
>> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem 
>> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out 
>> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer 
>> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
>> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>>
>> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
>> alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
>> to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
>> doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and 
>> an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
>> than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
>> ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
>> 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing hard.
>>
>> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow down 
>> even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
>> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
>> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>>
>> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
>> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
>> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
>> Peterson sandwich. 
>>
>> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
>> can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
>> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>>
>> And I make it.
>>
>> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
>> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
>> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
>> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
>> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
>> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
>> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
>> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
>> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>>
>> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
>> smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>>
>> Leah 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Fabio's Chest (effectively new) - lower price bump

[Jim S.]

$200 plus $20 to ship.

On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 6:02:04 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:

> So this is a large Fabio's Chest saddle bag or handlebar bag . I bought 
> it, and never mounted it on a bike. It's been in my basement on a shelf. 
>
> I don't believe he called it "Fabio's Chest" when I bought it. If it was 
> called that, it doesn't say it on the bag, (which I think might be better 
> than having a bag that says "Fabio's Chest.") It's a matter of taste.
>
> The bag was made by Swift. It's huge, and does a lot of things.
>
> Here's a video about it.  There are others.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4v9t5JkfQ
>
> Here's photos.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/h9yXAV3dswP3oNRb6
>
> Price is $230, plus $20 to ship. It requires a big box.
>
> Thanks for looking.
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Paul Richardson]

pete:  i dig your PATC sticker!

paul
takoma park, md.
On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:19:15 AM UTC-4 Pete B wrote:

> Here's my work space, in a corner of the basement. The newest addition is 
> a 1977 Snap-On tool chest that I rescued from the curb on trash day and 
> restored.
>
> The blue thing behind the vice is a homebrew truing stand that came with a 
> used dishing tool I bought on Ebay. It's held in place with a bench vise. I 
> drilled and tapped it for screws that are used for fine adjustment. Acorn 
> nuts protect the rim from gouging. It works pretty well for the couple 
> times a year I use it.
>
> The machinist vise is another Ebay find I picked up in 2013 for about $40. 
> It's a Prentiss Bulldog with 3" jaws, probably close to 100 years old now. 
> I have it and the Park work stand mounted to an old cutting board. I had 
> this held to my old bench with bolts and wingnuts, instead of bar clamps. 
> This arrangement allows me to swivel the vise to the front of the bench, or 
> temporarily remove it.
>
> Riv content:  Silver2 shifters and Nitto HiRiser on the Trek 950.
>
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
>
> [image: IMG_8282.jpg]
> [image: image0(1).jpeg]
> [image: IMG_5820.jpg]
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 9:50:48 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> Get that vise installed! Most important tool in the shop - how else can 
>> you hacksaw rack struts? ;-)
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 7:33:01 PM UTC-5 Kieran J wrote
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8782.JPG]
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[dougP]

I'll bet that guy doesn't share the story with anyone.  Oh, the shame, the 
shame.  He will probably order some titanium chainring bolts to prevent a 
repeat.

dougP


On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Love this story.  You show 'em and with class!
> Kate
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:27:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! Thanks, Ed. It might be better in the storytelling than real life. 😜
>>
>> Oh, I found a pic of Baby Bear on his bike, in case anyone was 
>> wondering...
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I can almost visualize the scene.
>> How I wish I was there to witness :-)
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:41:36 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear (he’s 
>>> 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of Killer 
>>> Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not the 
>>> road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, the 
>>> kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I looked 
>>> at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>>>
>>> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>>>
>>> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
>>> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
>>> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem 
>>> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out 
>>> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer 
>>> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
>>> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>>>
>>> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
>>> alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
>>> to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
>>> doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and 
>>> an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
>>> than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
>>> ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
>>> 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing hard.
>>>
>>> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow 
>>> down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
>>> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
>>> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>>>
>>> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
>>> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
>>> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
>>> Peterson sandwich. 
>>>
>>> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
>>> can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
>>> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>>>
>>> And I make it.
>>>
>>> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
>>> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
>>> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
>>> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
>>> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
>>> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
>>> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
>>> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
>>> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
>>> smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>>>
>>> Leah 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[dougP]

Just a thought:  It's always been said that orange is the fastest color.  
Maybe now the fastest color is raspberry?

dougP
On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 2:24:03 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> I'll bet that guy doesn't share the story with anyone.  Oh, the shame, the 
> shame.  He will probably order some titanium chainring bolts to prevent a 
> repeat.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Love this story.  You show 'em and with class!
>> Kate
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:27:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! Thanks, Ed. It might be better in the storytelling than real life. 😜
>>>
>>> Oh, I found a pic of Baby Bear on his bike, in case anyone was 
>>> wondering...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I can almost visualize the scene.
>>> How I wish I was there to witness :-)
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:41:36 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear 
 (he’s 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of 
 Killer Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not 
 the road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, 
 the kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I 
 looked at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 

 “Let’s get him,” I said.

 Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
 piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
 couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock 
 Clem 
 wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s 
 out 
 of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate 
 Killer 
 Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
 commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 

 Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
 alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
 to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
 doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings 
 and 
 an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
 than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
 ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing 
 hard.

 “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow 
 down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus 
 up 
 Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
 cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 

 I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
 passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
 water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
 Peterson sandwich. 

 I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. 
 I can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
 Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 

 And I make it.

 Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
 roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
 indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
 smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
 eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
 is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
 doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
 upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
 couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 

 Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
 smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.

 Leah 

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[Joe Bernard]

Doug, this is my favorite part: 

 "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at him 
so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his eyes but he does 
say hi."

That's a stone cold assassin right there. Obliterated him! 

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 2:24:03 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> I'll bet that guy doesn't share the story with anyone.  Oh, the shame, the 
> shame.  He will probably order some titanium chainring bolts to prevent a 
> repeat.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Love this story.  You show 'em and with class!
>> Kate
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:27:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! Thanks, Ed. It might be better in the storytelling than real life. 😜
>>>
>>> Oh, I found a pic of Baby Bear on his bike, in case anyone was 
>>> wondering...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I can almost visualize the scene.
>>> How I wish I was there to witness :-)
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:41:36 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear 
 (he’s 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of 
 Killer Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not 
 the road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, 
 the kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I 
 looked at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 

 “Let’s get him,” I said.

 Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
 piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
 couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock 
 Clem 
 wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s 
 out 
 of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate 
 Killer 
 Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
 commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 

 Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
 alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
 to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
 doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings 
 and 
 an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
 than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
 ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing 
 hard.

 “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow 
 down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus 
 up 
 Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
 cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 

 I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
 passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
 water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
 Peterson sandwich. 

 I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. 
 I can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
 Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 

 And I make it.

 Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
 roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
 indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
 smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
 eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
 is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
 doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
 upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
 couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 

 Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
 smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.

 Leah 

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[Eamon Nordquist]

That's officially/unofficially known as Category 6 racing! :)

Eamon
Seattle

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Doug, this is my favorite part: 
>
>  "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at him 
> so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his eyes but he does 
> say hi."
>
> That's a stone cold assassin right there. Obliterated him! 
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 2:24:03 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> I'll bet that guy doesn't share the story with anyone.  Oh, the shame, 
>> the shame.  He will probably order some titanium chainring bolts to prevent 
>> a repeat.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Love this story.  You show 'em and with class!
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:27:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ha! Thanks, Ed. It might be better in the storytelling than real life. 
 😜

 Oh, I found a pic of Baby Bear on his bike, in case anyone was 
 wondering...


 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:

 

 I can almost visualize the scene.
 How I wish I was there to witness :-)

 On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:41:36 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear 
> (he’s 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of 
> Killer Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and 
> not 
> the road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, 
> the kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I 
> looked at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>
> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>
> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock 
> Clem 
> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s 
> out 
> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate 
> Killer 
> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>
> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell 
> to alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone 
> else to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, 
> so 
> it doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle 
> dings 
> and an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher 
> speed than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time 
> worried ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too 
> fast. 
> We have 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and 
> breathing hard.
>
> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow 
> down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus 
> up 
> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>
> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
> Peterson sandwich. 
>
> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. 
> I can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of 
> the 
> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>
> And I make it.
>
> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. 
> He 
> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>
> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
> smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>
> Leah 
>
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[RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[Roberta]

Well, I guess that's one story he won't be telling his wife: "beautiful 
raspberry bike, with raspberry helmet, RandiJo bag, gloves and Hydro-flask 
just whirled by me UP KILLER HILL.  But I did beat the little one."  

I say give it a year for the little one.

LOVE the story (and all the raspberry).

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:36 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear (he’s 
> 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of Killer 
> Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not the 
> road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, the 
> kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I looked 
> at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>
> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>
> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem 
> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out 
> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer 
> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>
> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
> alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
> to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
> doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and 
> an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
> than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
> ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
> 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing hard.
>
> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow down 
> even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>
> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
> Peterson sandwich. 
>
> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
> can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>
> And I make it.
>
> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>
> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can smoke 
> roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>
> Leah 
>
>

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[RBW] Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Philip Barrett]

My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so badly 
the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of their rear 
dropouts internal width?

Good news is I bought the insurance but it's sad to see a Riv destroyed 
like this.

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Joe Bernard]

135mm.


On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so badly 
> the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of their rear 
> dropouts internal width?
>
> Good news is I bought the insurance but it's sad to see a Riv destroyed 
> like this.
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Joe Bernard]

Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it wouldn't 
crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities you need with them 
and take it to a framebuilder to reset the triangle. It's not broken, just 
a little bendy at the moment. 


On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:49:15 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well this is probably not good then eh?
> [image: PXL_20210315_232449669.jpg]
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:42:47 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 135mm.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so badly 
>>> the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of their rear 
>>> dropouts internal width?
>>>
>>> Good news is I bought the insurance but it's sad to see a Riv destroyed 
>>> like this.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Philip Barrett]

Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone the journey 
I'm afraid?



On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it wouldn't 
> crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities you need with them 
> and take it to a framebuilder to reset the triangle. It's not broken, just 
> a little bendy at the moment. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:49:15 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well this is probably not good then eh?
>> [image: PXL_20210315_232449669.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:42:47 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> 135mm.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so 
 badly the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of their 
 rear dropouts internal width?

 Good news is I bought the insurance but it's sad to see a Riv destroyed 
 like this.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Joe Bernard]

Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby back on a 
truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama. 


On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone the journey 
> I'm afraid?
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it wouldn't 
>> crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities you need with them 
>> and take it to a framebuilder to reset the triangle. It's not broken, just 
>> a little bendy at the moment. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:49:15 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Well this is probably not good then eh?
>>> [image: PXL_20210315_232449669.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:42:47 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 135mm.


 On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> My Clem was delivered today & it looks like UPS crushed the box so 
> badly the rear triangle is bent. Does anyone have a measurement of their 
> rear dropouts internal width?
>
> Good news is I bought the insurance but it's sad to see a Riv 
> destroyed like this.
>


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[RBW] Re: FS: Fabio's Chest (effectively new) - lower price bump

[Zac Terrones]

Any differences from the zeitgeist? 
https://builtbyswift.com/shop/zeitgeist-bag-2021/

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> $200 plus $20 to ship.
>
> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 6:02:04 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> So this is a large Fabio's Chest saddle bag or handlebar bag . I bought 
>> it, and never mounted it on a bike. It's been in my basement on a shelf. 
>>
>> I don't believe he called it "Fabio's Chest" when I bought it. If it was 
>> called that, it doesn't say it on the bag, (which I think might be better 
>> than having a bag that says "Fabio's Chest.") It's a matter of taste.
>>
>> The bag was made by Swift. It's huge, and does a lot of things.
>>
>> Here's a video about it.  There are others.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4v9t5JkfQ
>>
>> Here's photos.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/h9yXAV3dswP3oNRb6
>>
>> Price is $230, plus $20 to ship. It requires a big box.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[Ray Varella]

I think you should change the title to “the power of the ruby slipper”. 

Ray

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 3:25:51 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Well, I guess that's one story he won't be telling his wife: "beautiful 
> raspberry bike, with raspberry helmet, RandiJo bag, gloves and Hydro-flask 
> just whirled by me UP KILLER HILL.  But I did beat the little one."  
>
> I say give it a year for the little one.
>
> LOVE the story (and all the raspberry).
>
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:36 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear (he’s 
>> 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of Killer 
>> Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not the 
>> road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, the 
>> kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I looked 
>> at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>>
>> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>>
>> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
>> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
>> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem 
>> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out 
>> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer 
>> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
>> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>>
>> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
>> alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
>> to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
>> doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and 
>> an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
>> than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
>> ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
>> 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing hard.
>>
>> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow down 
>> even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
>> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
>> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>>
>> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
>> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
>> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
>> Peterson sandwich. 
>>
>> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
>> can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
>> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>>
>> And I make it.
>>
>> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
>> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
>> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
>> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
>> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
>> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
>> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
>> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
>> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>>
>> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
>> smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>>
>> Leah 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[dougP]

Joe:


* "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at him 
so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his eyes but he does 
say hi."*

*That's a stone cold assassin right there. Obliterated him! *

Do NOT mess with this woman!  Matching luggage beats matching kit every 
time.  

doug

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> I think you should change the title to “the power of the ruby slipper”. 
>
> Ray
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 3:25:51 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess that's one story he won't be telling his wife: "beautiful 
>> raspberry bike, with raspberry helmet, RandiJo bag, gloves and Hydro-flask 
>> just whirled by me UP KILLER HILL.  But I did beat the little one."  
>>
>> I say give it a year for the little one.
>>
>> LOVE the story (and all the raspberry).
>>
>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:36 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear (he’s 
>>> 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of Killer 
>>> Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not the 
>>> road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, the 
>>> kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I looked 
>>> at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>>>
>>> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>>>
>>> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
>>> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
>>> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem 
>>> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out 
>>> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer 
>>> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
>>> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>>>
>>> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
>>> alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
>>> to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
>>> doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and 
>>> an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
>>> than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
>>> ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
>>> 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing hard.
>>>
>>> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow 
>>> down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
>>> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
>>> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>>>
>>> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
>>> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
>>> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
>>> Peterson sandwich. 
>>>
>>> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
>>> can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
>>> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>>>
>>> And I make it.
>>>
>>> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
>>> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
>>> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
>>> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
>>> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
>>> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
>>> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
>>> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
>>> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
>>> smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>>>
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Fabio's Chest (effectively new) - lower price bump

[James Simeri]

It's bigger. It's kind of huge. One might use it in place of panniers and a
rack.

https://theradavist.com/2016/08/swift-industries-and-ultra-romance-ultaswift-wizard-sleeve-bags/

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 19:51 Zac Terrones  wrote:

> Any differences from the zeitgeist?
> https://builtbyswift.com/shop/zeitgeist-bag-2021/
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> $200 plus $20 to ship.
>>
>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 6:02:04 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:
>>
>>> So this is a large Fabio's Chest saddle bag or handlebar bag . I bought
>>> it, and never mounted it on a bike. It's been in my basement on a shelf.
>>>
>>> I don't believe he called it "Fabio's Chest" when I bought it. If it was
>>> called that, it doesn't say it on the bag, (which I think might be better
>>> than having a bag that says "Fabio's Chest.") It's a matter of taste.
>>>
>>> The bag was made by Swift. It's huge, and does a lot of things.
>>>
>>> Here's a video about it.  There are others.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4v9t5JkfQ
>>>
>>> Here's photos.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/h9yXAV3dswP3oNRb6
>>>
>>> Price is $230, plus $20 to ship. It requires a big box.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[Leah Peterson]

You guys are funnier than I am. 

Baby Bear needs a racing Platypus, don’t you think? That green one might do the 
trick - we need a catchy name. We’ll wait at the bottom of Killer Hill for 
roadies to appear and then we’ll throw down the gauntlet. Or something. What do 
you call a gathering of Platypuses? 

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:27 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> 
> Joe:
> 
>  "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at him so 
> he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his eyes but he does say 
> hi."
> 
> That's a stone cold assassin right there. Obliterated him! 
> 
> Do NOT mess with this woman!  Matching luggage beats matching kit every time. 
>  
> 
> doug
> 
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>> I think you should change the title to “the power of the ruby slipper”. 
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 3:25:51 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>> Well, I guess that's one story he won't be telling his wife: "beautiful 
>>> raspberry bike, with raspberry helmet, RandiJo bag, gloves and Hydro-flask 
>>> just whirled by me UP KILLER HILL.  But I did beat the little one."  
>>> 
>>> I say give it a year for the little one.
>>> 
>>> LOVE the story (and all the raspberry).
>>> 
 On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:36 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Today Baby Bear (he’s 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning 
 our ascent of Killer Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the 
 path, and not the road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the 
 glasses, the carbon, the kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I 
 wasn’t buying it. I looked at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring 
 my expression. 
 
 “Let’s get him,” I said.
 
 Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
 piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
 couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock 
 Clem wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, 
 he’s out of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t 
 negotiate Killer Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no 
 bike commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
 
 Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
 alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
 to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
 doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings 
 and an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher 
 speed than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time 
 worried ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. 
 We have 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and 
 breathing hard.
 
 “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow down 
 even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
 Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
 cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
 
 I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
 passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
 water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
 Peterson sandwich. 
 
 I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
 can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
 Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
 
 And I make it.
 
 Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
 roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
 indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
 smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
 eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
 is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
 doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
 upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
 couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
 
 Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can smoke 
 roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
 
 Leah 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[Curtis McKenzie]

Could be called a paddle.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 8:32 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:

> You guys are funnier than I am.
>
> Baby Bear needs a racing Platypus, don’t you think? That green one might
> do the trick - we need a catchy name. We’ll wait at the bottom of Killer
> Hill for roadies to appear and then we’ll throw down the gauntlet. Or
> something. What do you call a gathering of Platypuses?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:27 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
> 
> Joe:
>
>
> * "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at him
> so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his eyes but he does
> say hi."*
>
> *That's a stone cold assassin right there. Obliterated him! *
>
> Do NOT mess with this woman!  Matching luggage beats matching kit every
> time.
>
> doug
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> I think you should change the title to “the power of the ruby slipper”.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 3:25:51 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I guess that's one story he won't be telling his wife: "beautiful
>>> raspberry bike, with raspberry helmet, RandiJo bag, gloves and Hydro-flask
>>> just whirled by me UP KILLER HILL.  But I did beat the little one."
>>>
>>> I say give it a year for the little one.
>>>
>>> LOVE the story (and all the raspberry).
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:36 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear
 (he’s 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of
 Killer Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not
 the road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon,
 the kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I
 looked at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression.

 “Let’s get him,” I said.

 Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s
 piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a
 couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem
 wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out
 of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer
 Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike
 commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided.

 Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to
 alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else
 to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it
 doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and
 an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed
 than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried
 ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have
 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing 
 hard.

 “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow
 down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up
 Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into
 cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it.

 I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been
 passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of
 water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a
 Peterson sandwich.

 I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me.
 I can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the
 Year here, I have a tough choice to make.

 And I make it.

 Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the
 roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have,
 indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and
 smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his
 eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He
 is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also
 doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I
 upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he
 couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to.

 Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can
 smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.

 Leah

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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Kieran J]

It's on my to-do list :-P

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:50:48 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Get that vise installed! Most important tool in the shop - how else can 
> you hacksaw rack struts? ;-)
>
> Laing
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

[JAS]

I just love the image of you guys “lying in wait” for the next roadie 
to underestimate you and Baby Bear.  You tell a good story, Leah!  Thanks 
for the latest tale of the raspberry Platy.
On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:42:29 PM UTC-7 Curtis wrote:

> Could be called a paddle.
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 8:32 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
>> You guys are funnier than I am. 
>>
>> Baby Bear needs a racing Platypus, don’t you think? That green one might 
>> do the trick - we need a catchy name. We’ll wait at the bottom of Killer 
>> Hill for roadies to appear and then we’ll throw down the gauntlet. Or 
>> something. What do you call a gathering of Platypuses? 
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:27 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Joe:
>>
>>
>> * "When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and smile at 
>> him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his eyes but he 
>> does say hi."*
>>
>> *That's a stone cold assassin right there. Obliterated him! *
>>
>> Do NOT mess with this woman!  Matching luggage beats matching kit every 
>> time.  
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:57:59 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> I think you should change the title to “the power of the ruby slipper”. 
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 3:25:51 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Well, I guess that's one story he won't be telling his wife: "beautiful 
 raspberry bike, with raspberry helmet, RandiJo bag, gloves and Hydro-flask 
 just whirled by me UP KILLER HILL.  But I did beat the little one."  

 I say give it a year for the little one.

 LOVE the story (and all the raspberry).

 On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 11:41:36 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear 
> (he’s 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of 
> Killer Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and 
> not 
> the road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, 
> the kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I 
> looked at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>
> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>
> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock 
> Clem 
> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s 
> out 
> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate 
> Killer 
> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>
> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell 
> to alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone 
> else to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, 
> so 
> it doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle 
> dings 
> and an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher 
> speed than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time 
> worried ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too 
> fast. 
> We have 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and 
> breathing hard.
>
> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow 
> down even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus 
> up 
> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>
> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
> Peterson sandwich. 
>
> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. 
> I can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of 
> the 
> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>
> And I make it.
>
> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. 
> He 
> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he