Re: [RBW] Interesting Riv

[Ian A]

The frame has some of the details of a Canti Long Low without the Joe Bell 
paint. The fork has some type of mid fork braze on (looking at the photos 
on mobile). Mid fork braze ons weren't really a Riv thing in the beginning, 
were they? It almost looks like the frame was given an 
available/appropriate fork. Probably a nicely made fork nonetheless.

It is clearly a quality bike and probably rides wonderfully. I rather like 
the patina too. 

IanA Alberta Canada

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:17:27 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The lugs look right, but you're right about the fork. Maybe that's why it 
> didn't turn into a production frame this way? But yeah, we need the serial 
> number. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 7:57:47 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> The "Protovelo" stickers were later - maybe '05 or so...  they were 
>> created to sell frames which were laying about in the warehouse. I've never 
>> seen those applied to bikes which weren't pretty close to production models 
>> - might have used a different dropout without fender/rack mounts or had 
>> braze-ons for cable routing in a weird place. Most I've seen had received 
>> quality powder coating or paint.
>>
>> It does seem to have a "star" under the bottle boss, but Riv were't the 
>> only ones doing those types of details. 
>>
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:13:24 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I always thought Rivendell marked their prototypes as Protovelo
>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:14:13 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
 I had a similar Road Custom that was designed around 700 x 28s 
 w/cantis. This was before longer reach dual pivots were introduced. Steve

 On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:49 AM dub...@hotmail.com  
 wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Purchased this one on ebay and the story is that its a Prototype 
> Rivendell 
>
> Anyone have any ideas on it's back ground?
>
> SN M1
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian the Aussie
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Eric Floden]

Jason,

you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike weekly,
pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of times
since then. I really
hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.

Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh

EricF
Vancouver BC

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Re: [RBW] Interesting Riv

[exliontamer]

I don't know enough about the way Riv does prototypes but the clearance, 
spacing, and angles look a lot like an old canti-Romulus that I had. The 
lugs are way fancier on this though. Maybe a proto Legolas? It does look 
like an older model than with of those.  Either way it's a super cool frame.

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:20:27 PM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:

> The one-off MUSA Atlantis (2015-ish) had no serial number. It had about 1 
> cm longer chainstays than a Toyo made Atlantis, with all the brazeons of an 
> Appaloosa.  Got in trade for a Roadeo. 
>
> Mike SLO CA  
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 10:17:27 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The lugs look right, but you're right about the fork. Maybe that's why it 
>> didn't turn into a production frame this way? But yeah, we need the serial 
>> number. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 7:57:47 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> The "Protovelo" stickers were later - maybe '05 or so...  they were 
>>> created to sell frames which were laying about in the warehouse. I've never 
>>> seen those applied to bikes which weren't pretty close to production models 
>>> - might have used a different dropout without fender/rack mounts or had 
>>> braze-ons for cable routing in a weird place. Most I've seen had received 
>>> quality powder coating or paint.
>>>
>>> It does seem to have a "star" under the bottle boss, but Riv were't the 
>>> only ones doing those types of details. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:13:24 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>

 I always thought Rivendell marked their prototypes as Protovelo
 On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:14:13 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> I had a similar Road Custom that was designed around 700 x 28s 
> w/cantis. This was before longer reach dual pivots were introduced. Steve
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:49 AM dub...@hotmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> Purchased this one on ebay and the story is that its a Prototype 
>> Rivendell 
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas on it's back ground?
>>
>> SN M1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Adrian the Aussie
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

A lovely custom touring bike from a builder, Leo Castellon, I’ve never
heard of. Perhaps a nice price, too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184585787339


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 5:41 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone looking for a 54cm Losco?
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-blue-lug-nitto-losco-bar/7341016068.html
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

Anyone looking for a 54cm Losco?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-blue-lug-nitto-losco-bar/7341016068.html

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Joe Bernard]

"Steering may be off a bit."

Well. Yeah. 

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 12:05:43 PM UTC-7 Nathan F wrote:

> That Bleriot is a total write off unless you know how to weld and want a 
> big project. The cost of repairing it would easily get you a new Riv!
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 06:58:53 UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> I wouldn’t trust that Bleriot to make it across the English Channel…
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
>>
>> phantomecellars.com 
>>
>> Speaking in Thumbs 👍
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:52 AM, Justin Kennedy  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> $299 bent and banged up Bleriot frame. Can’t imagine it’s rideable or 
>> even remotely safe? 
>>
>>
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bop/d/new-york-rivendell-bleriot-frame-fork/7341873581.html
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:21 PM Matthew Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Atlantis
>>> 58cm
>>> $3200
>>> Atlanta, GA
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284347264210
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne
>>> 61cm
>>> $2500
>>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillbourne/7341501214.html
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Nathan F]

That Bleriot is a total write off unless you know how to weld and want a 
big project. The cost of repairing it would easily get you a new Riv!
On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 06:58:53 UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> I wouldn’t trust that Bleriot to make it across the English Channel…
>
> Thanks,
> -Brendan Willard
> Owner/Winemaker
> Phantômé Cellars
>
> phantomecellars.com 
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 👍
>
> On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:52 AM, Justin Kennedy  wrote:
>
> 
>
> $299 bent and banged up Bleriot frame. Can’t imagine it’s rideable or even 
> remotely safe? 
>
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bop/d/new-york-rivendell-bleriot-frame-fork/7341873581.html
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:21 PM Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
>
>> Atlantis
>> 58cm
>> $3200
>> Atlanta, GA
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284347264210
>>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> 61cm
>> $2500
>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillbourne/7341501214.html
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Re: [RBW] Interesting Riv

[Mike Godwin]

The one-off MUSA Atlantis (2015-ish) had no serial number. It had about 1 
cm longer chainstays than a Toyo made Atlantis, with all the brazeons of an 
Appaloosa.  Got in trade for a Roadeo. 

Mike SLO CA  

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 10:17:27 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The lugs look right, but you're right about the fork. Maybe that's why it 
> didn't turn into a production frame this way? But yeah, we need the serial 
> number. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 7:57:47 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> The "Protovelo" stickers were later - maybe '05 or so...  they were 
>> created to sell frames which were laying about in the warehouse. I've never 
>> seen those applied to bikes which weren't pretty close to production models 
>> - might have used a different dropout without fender/rack mounts or had 
>> braze-ons for cable routing in a weird place. Most I've seen had received 
>> quality powder coating or paint.
>>
>> It does seem to have a "star" under the bottle boss, but Riv were't the 
>> only ones doing those types of details. 
>>
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:13:24 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I always thought Rivendell marked their prototypes as Protovelo
>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:14:13 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
 I had a similar Road Custom that was designed around 700 x 28s 
 w/cantis. This was before longer reach dual pivots were introduced. Steve

 On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 2:49 AM dub...@hotmail.com  
 wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Purchased this one on ebay and the story is that its a Prototype 
> Rivendell 
>
> Anyone have any ideas on it's back ground?
>
> SN M1
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrian the Aussie
>
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>>>

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[RBW] Re: anyone push their altus (m310) to a 36t rear cog?

[Lefebeaver]

I’m running silver shifters, so it’s not an indexing issue. The upper part 
of the pulley cage actually makes metal to metal contact with the cassette 
as it passes between 3rd and 1st. When runnng in the middle ring up front 
and second in the back, it just touches the innermost gear on the cassette. 
 It is a newer Atlantis 59cm with very long chain stays, so I had to buy 
two chains and add a section to get a long enough chain. I’ve played with 
the B screw in the past, just checked it now and it’s all the way in - but 
the slack in the spring of the derailleur still allows it to swing forward 
directly under the cassette. With the chain length I’m currently running, 
the Altus gets pretty stretched out in a max to max stretch, so it seems 
like the only place to go is a bit longer on the chain... or maybe it’s 
time to add a goat link? 

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:06:54 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Lefebeaver, I'll add to the chain questions with a shifter one: Are you 
> using friction or index? Your problem on the second-biggest rear cog sounds 
> like the pulley wheels are landing slightly off-center and towards the 
> biggest cog, which would create that crunchy sound. Like you're going to 
> get that crunch when shifting to the big cog, and the chain is already 
> halfway there and crunching before you start the shift. 
>
> I've had this exact issue with an Altus and indexing, it's not a terribly 
> precise derailleur for clicky-shifting. This theory is moot if you use 
> friction and can't trim that sound out. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:59:32 AM UTC-7 Lefebeaver wrote:
>
>> My Atlantis is set up with an Altus, 24-34-44 up front, and 11-34 8-spd 
>> in back. I set up the chain length according to guidelines I got from Riv, 
>> but my Altus grinds on the second biggest gear in back when shifting to the 
>> innermost one - it scrapes on the gear on its way up and makes a horrendous 
>> noise, and although it'll run in that second gear, it's clunky so I rarely 
>> use it, but the biggest gear works fine once you get up there. I'm 
>> wondering if anyone else has had this issue - should I add some more links 
>> to the chain? I ultimately wish to go bigger in back - was on a loaded dirt 
>> road tour in Brazil where there were some hills I didn't have a low enough 
>> gear to climb and I had to walk it up, while my companions on mountain 
>> bikes just went grinding up in their 1X setups. Thinking I need to get a 
>> goat link for that next step to a larger cassette in back; what is the 
>> guidance for choosing chain length with a link?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 4:34:55 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Same here.  My Atlantis has a 24/34/44 triple, and the Altus handles it 
>>> fine.  IIRC, the Altus is less than $30 at Rivendell (if they have them to 
>>> sell).
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:01:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>>
 I ran an Altus on my Atlantis with a 12-36 9 speed cassette and a 
 42/34/19 triple for a week on the GDMBR and had no troubles other than 
 being laughed at by another cyclist for my selection of a rear derailleur. 
  
 What can I say - it worked.  I decided to switch to the Altus for that 
 ride 
 because I had it and it has amazing chain wrap, which I thought would be 
 desirable with that 19t granny.  It has been two years now and it is still 
 on the bike.

 Bill S
 San Diego

 On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:51:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> What Doug said, it should be fine, Shimano rear derailers are usually 
> good for pushing a couple teeth bigger than listed. I believe - this is 
> math stuff I don't fully understand - some of the concern comes from if 
> you're running a wide-range triple crank *and *a big cassette..at 
> some point in there things get screwy. But most of us don't run triples 
> that way and you may not even have a big ring, just guard-middle-small. I 
> say give it a whirl! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:20:31 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> bought a 11-36t cassette for my new appa and already have some altus' 
>> that i'd like to use ( i guess i have back up shimano rear in case they 
>> dont) but i realized it's supposed to be 34t max. anyone get it past 
>> that?  
>> tried looking elsewhere to no avail.
>>
>> keep seeing altus' on riv builds and it's growing on me 
>> aesthetically, in a riv sort of way. my back up is an m952 xtr rear. not 
>> a 
>> huge fan of the charcoal color so i'm not super excited to use it, but i 
>> guess i can get over that pretty quickly
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown

[Sean B.]

SOLD - Berthoud Aspin 

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:46:37 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Sean,
> Just sent you an email about the Aspin Open.
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 2:01:16 PM UTC-7 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> SOLD - Selle Anatomica  X1 
>>
>> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:51:59 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump and price drop.
>>>
>>> $170 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. 
>>>
>>> $70 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. 
>>>
>>> Price includes shipping CONUS.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:47:04 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 Looking to get rid of some of my extra saddles. Buyer pays shipping of 
 their choice (USPS, UPS, ect). Both saddles are in great shape. 

 $190 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. It's been ridden just under 
 150 miles. Treated once on both sides with Obenaufs.  

 $90 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. Ridden once, so lets say 
 20ish miles ridden. Never treated. 

 Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMECXF6d4MPvRQAA

 Let me know if you have any questions or want more pictures!

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Brendan Willard]

I wouldn’t trust that Bleriot to make it across the English Channel…

>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

Speaking in Thumbs 👍

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 5:52 AM, Justin Kennedy  wrote:
> 
> 
> $299 bent and banged up Bleriot frame. Can’t imagine it’s rideable or even 
> remotely safe? 
> 
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bop/d/new-york-rivendell-bleriot-frame-fork/7341873581.html
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:21 PM Matthew Williams 
>>  wrote:
>> Atlantis
>> 58cm
>> $3200
>> Atlanta, GA
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284347264210
>> 
>> Sam Hillborne
>> 61cm
>> $2500
>> Walnut Creek, CA
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillbourne/7341501214.html
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Justin Kennedy]

$299 bent and banged up Bleriot frame. Can’t imagine it’s rideable or even
remotely safe?

https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bop/d/new-york-rivendell-bleriot-frame-fork/7341873581.html


On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:21 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Atlantis
> 58cm
> $3200
> Atlanta, GA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284347264210
>
> Sam Hillborne
> 61cm
> $2500
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillbourne/7341501214.html
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[RBW] ISO jack Brown

[spencer robinson]

I am looking for one or 2 Jack Brown tires. I am trying to fit the largest 
tire that makes sense on my Heron Road. I can get a 700x35 on the front but 
too tight at the brake in the rear, I think a jack brown will fit the rear, 
as a 700x32 gravel king is no problem with room. 
I think the 1st gen Heron Road was built around short reach brakes so the 
rear is tighter.
If anyone has a jack brown in their tire pile or a pair, I would be 
interested 
Thanks
Spencer

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