[RBW] Funky Monkey 22.2 FS?

[Berkeleyan]

A shot in the dark, does anyone have a Paul cable hanger for 22.2 (7/8) 
stem to sell? Ideally a polished aluminum version, but I'll take what I can 
get. Thanks, I'm building up a new frame, with a RBW fork, and the head 
tube and headset leave no spare room for a fork-mounted cable hanger. Need 
to find one that can clamp to the quill stem.

- Andrew, in Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] WTB Clem L

[Andrew Huston]

Bump

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 1:14:55 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:

> I was told middle of July for frames and not until fall for completes. I 
> just want a complete really or something close to it. 
>
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 9:35:56 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Have you asked Rivendell when they expect another shipment of L frames? I 
>> was thinking this fall maybe?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:59:51 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that. Really hoping for an L. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:46:12 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Here’s a Clem H:

 https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/wBULjcWuFBs


 On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 5:39 PM Andrew Huston  
 wrote:

> About once a year I check around to see if anyone has a Clem L (52) 
> they are looking to part with. I would require shipping to Michigan. I 
> have 
> a Velo Orange Neutrino if there is any interest in a trade of some sort. 
> Thanks in advance.  
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[RBW] Re: XD2 Rings and 9 Speed

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Aerprof & Pancake 

Thanks for the positive advice.  I will plan on using my existing XD2 with 
9 speeds.   I forgot to mention I am using a Deore RD-M591 currently with 
the crank and 7 speed casssette.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 11:19:16 AM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> My XD2 26/36/46 with a Deore XT RD-M591 derailleur, HG-400 9 speed 11-34 
> cassette and KMC 9 speed chain has worked fine on my Sam for 5 years.
> I ran it for a while in 10-speed mode by changing only the cassette and 
> thumb shifter.  That worked well too.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dia compe knob grip?

[Adam]

I'm just resurrecting this thread to see if anyone knows of a U.S. source 
for the 22.2mm clamp version of these dia compe knob grips?

I see the larger ones at the SOMA site. SJS has the smaller, correct size 
but with a crazy shipping fee from the UK.

If anyone knows where to get them, or have some around they want to sell, 
I'm looking.

Adam

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 10:02:27 PM UTC-4 Bill in Roswell GA wrote:

> Evan, what is your bike? Always curious as to what everyone is riding. 
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>
>
> On Friday, September 19, 2014 at 5:27:45 PM UTC-4, Evan Baird wrote:
>>
>> Have em. Love em.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: XD2 Rings and 9 Speed

[aeroperf]

My XD2 26/36/46 with a Deore XT RD-M591 derailleur, HG-400 9 speed 11-34 
cassette and KMC 9 speed chain has worked fine on my Sam for 5 years.
I ran it for a while in 10-speed mode by changing only the cassette and 
thumb shifter.  That worked well too.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell SimpleOne - SOLD!

[Montclair BobbyB]

SOLD, thank you.

On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 3:02:42 PM UTC-4 Montclair BobbyB wrote:

> [image: IMG_20210619_131951648_HDR.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 3:00:33 PM UTC-4 Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_20210619_132008072_HDR.jpg][image: 
>> IMG_20210619_131959473_HDR.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: XD2 Rings and 9 Speed

[Pancake]

The XD2 will work nicely with 9 speed your 9 speed chain and 9 speed 
cassette. In fact, I've had 4 different Sugino XD2 or the nearly identical 
X600 and they were all only used with 9 speed drive trains, all worked very 
nicely. I believe others will report that they even work fine with 10 speed 
chains.

Take care,
Abe

On Saturday, 3 July 2021 at 06:22:10 UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:

> I want to use my Sugino XD2 crank with the STOCK Sugino rings with a 9 
> speed Shimano cassette and 9 speed KMC chain.   Currently use it on a 7 
> speed cassette with a 8 speed KMC chain with no issues.
>
> Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative, on using this crank 
> with a 9 speed cassettes and chain??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ 
>

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[RBW] XD2 Rings and 9 Speed

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I want to use my Sugino XD2 crank with the STOCK Sugino rings with a 9 
speed Shimano cassette and 9 speed KMC chain.   Currently use it on a 7 
speed cassette with a 8 speed KMC chain with no issues.

Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative, on using this crank 
with a 9 speed cassettes and chain??

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Tim Bantham]

Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has inspired 
me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those of you 
running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when riding 
a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB Venture 
tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire will fit on 
Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:

> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>
> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating dusklight is 
>> complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar that 
>>> is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than my 58 
 double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a better colour?
 We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the differences are 
 good ones.

 On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:

> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv was now 
> doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double top tube size 58 
> is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube version.
>
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> It’s the Advent 1x9 with Microshift thumbie. I had it on hand before 
>> the Advent X came out, which currently doesn’t have thumb shifter or 
>> barcon 
>> options. Nice, economical system. 
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:09:15 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Nice build! And the scenery isn't bad either. It looks like you 
>>> chose the Advent 1x10 drivetrain. Are you using the Microshift 
>>> thumb-shifter?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:56 PM bp  wrote:
>>>
 After snagging one of the orange 60cm frames (completed checkout in 
 45 seconds!) the big brown truck made a delivery Monday. The build is 
 complete and tonight was the test ride. All I can say is, *wow*. 
 It's replacing a 62cm earlier generation Appaloosa and while it 
 *feels* the same, it has it's own character. Maybe a better fit 
 for me? Maybe geometry refinements by that mad genius bike architect? 
 Either way, I'm thoroughly enjoying the ride. It ranks high on the 
 smile 
 meter, and that's enough for me.

 [image: IMG_1977.jpeg]

 [image: IMG_1975.jpeg]
 On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 9:59:43 AM UTC-5 adrian...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Absolutely drooling over this build…
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-4 Kevin wrote:
>
>> Here is an Appaloosa with Maxxis Ikons and Cliffhangers 
>> .
>>  
>> They are 2.2s, which which would be 55 or 56. Rims are Cliffhangers, 
>> which 
>> are about as wide a rim brake rim as you can come by.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:20:32 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have experience fitting a 55 on an appaloosa? Never spent 
>>> a bunch of money on tires before but want to try the yet to be 
>>> released RH 
>>> Umtanum Ridges for this bike.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 1:34:53 PM UTC-4 
>>> bicycler...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Doug, I settled on the Soma Supple Vitesse EX as I'm unable to 
 find the Shikoros in the width I want (48mm) 
 I could've gotten the folding bead Everwear in 48 but I'm a 
 sucker for brown sidewalls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 I'm skeptical of their durability, but having commuted on and 
 gone on a loaded tour with Compass 700 x 32 EL tires with only two 
 

[RBW] Re: Ride Quality Difference between the Atlantis and Clem H?

[Tim Bantham]

I currently have a Sam Hillborne and a Joe Appaloosa. I find that 
combination ideal perfect for my needs. I picked up a 59 Clem H at the end 
of 2019 and built it up as an Analog mountain bike. Spent a ton of money on 
premium parts and ended up selling the bike less than a year later. I think 
Jason nailed it in his first response. Bike is a great utilitarian that 
will last a lifetime of use. For me I just found the bike way too long and 
heavy for what I wanted it to d . I know a lot of people love the Clem but 
I found it to be dull and unresponsive. It didn't spark joy like my Sam and 
Joe. I'd suggest saving for the Atlantis. 

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:

> I think the ride quality difference will come down to fit, and style of 
> setup (i.e. light wheels and supple tires vs. durable wheels and touring 
> tires), with the primary difference being driven by whichever bike fits you 
> best. 
>
> Unfortunately, the Clems have only 3 sizes, and that will tend to limit 
> how good the fit can get without major compromises if you don't perfectly 
> line up. This was (one reason) why I switched from a Clem to an Appaloosa, 
> I needed like a 50.5 2017 clem to fit correctly and the 51 Joe was a 
> perfect size.
>
> Collin, former clem owner, in Sacramento
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 3:04:14 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I don't agree. I've owned both and the MIT Atlantis is perceptably 
>> lighter and zippier. Is it a massive difference? No, I don't think that 
>> question was being asked. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:00 PM UTC-7 Gill wrote:
>>
>>> Expectancy bias should perhaps be factored into the equation. The 
>>> Atlantis is a fancier more expensive bike and that fact can’t help but 
>>> influence perceptions. As someone who has had both bikes I would contend 
>>> that if you rode them both blindfolded (admittedly a dicey undertaking) 
>>> you’d be happy with either and hard pressed to tell the difference. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 10:33:34 AM UTC-4 max.c@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey all, I am a wannabe Riv owner. One day, when the mood of my wife 
 and bank account align...at least that's my hope. 

 I browse a lot of used listings and sometimes will see a deal pop up 
 that I'm interested in, but feel like I don't have enough info to 
 confidently purchase. Looking for some insight especially from those who 
 have ridden multiple Riv models.

 I have a special nostalgia for the Rivendell Atlantis -- the color, the 
 geometry; it just seems like my dream bike and I don't have a 
 justification. The price is steep, though. I have been curious what the 
 difference in ride quality is when compared with the Clem H, as that's 
 more 
 in my price range and I see used ones come up for sale much more 
 frequently. Obviously it's a different look and I'm missing lugs, etc, but 
 it does have those crazy long stays. What's the difference in ride 
 quality? 
 Especially if I'm riding upright.

 A couple of notes: I live in very flat Dallas, I primarily use my bike 
 as a commuter (towing my HappiSack) with a 10 mile radius but would also 
 like to do some light touring. My preferred set up is riding upright.

 If anyone else would care to weigh in with a comparison between the 
 ride quality of the Atlantis and other Riv models, I'd be interested in 
 those too! Just trying to arm myself with information in a market where I 
 often am shopping online and unable to try before I buy.

 Thanks,
 Max

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Nick Payne]

My brother-in-law's main hobbies are fishing and scuba diving. He recently 
had to replace the twin outboard motors on his boat at about $15000 per 
motor (it's quite a large boat), and he has a $7 top of the line 
Landcruiser to be able to tow said boat to the places where he wants to go 
fishing and diving, as quite a lot of these places are well off the beaten 
track.

By comparison, the few thousand I spend here and there on bikes is chicken 
feed. And I get to ride my bikes almost every day, whereas he's lucky if he 
can get out on his boat once a fortnight.

Nick

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[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Craig Montgomery]

I just tell'em there are bikes for kids to do kid things, and there are 
bikes for adults to do adult things. Or I've used, When you drive a '61 
Ford Falcon, you know you're in a '61 Ford Falcon. When you drive a 
Mercedes 380SL, you know you're in a 380SL. Bikes are the same way. Though 
I do miss my '63 Ranchero with a 260 and 4 speed. 

Craig in Tucson 

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 8:12:57 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> Wife and recently marked the 10th anniversary and decided to get each 
> other nice presents. She is getting me an Appaloosa built and I got her 
> something she really wanted in the jewelry department (of 20-30% higher 
> value than the bike). 
>
> We are both financially responsible people, don't live lavishly, and can 
> afford both items. However, the reactions of the friends and family who 
> hear about our gifts and their values have been somewhat puzzling for me. 
> While no one has given a second thought to the price of the jewelry, the 
> reactions on the bike have almost universally been that of astonishment. 
> And these are from people who know me well, know I enjoy cycling, and that 
> I only have one bike right now which I am planning to sell when the new one 
> arrives.
>
> So that got me thinking, I can't be the only one who has experienced this. 
> What are some other similar stories? More importantly, what do you say to a 
> well-meaning loved one when they ask things like "$3500 for a bike?" and 
> "but isn't your current bike orange too?"
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone know what this is?

[Craig Montgomery]

The chain hanger on my 1938 Bates is a nail head. The chain hanger on my 
1965 HR Morris is a nail head. The chain hanger on my 1970 Jack Taylor is a 
nail head. Maybe there's an English tradition in there somewhere. 

Craig Rule Britannia in Tucson

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 6:35:51 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I just picked up a Saluki and it has this odd thing attached to the frame. 
> I have no idea what it is? Some sort of device to hold the chain for some 
> reason? Anyone see anything like this before?

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