[RBW] FS: Sackville Tool Roll

[Michael Ullmer]

One more from the bin. I got this a few years ago from a fellow lister and 
haven't used it since. Plenty dirty (beausage?), still fully functional. 
Comes with two leather straps.

$20 shipped

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yJ8SaqZJL6Ru1zpW9

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[RBW] FS: Riv MUSA Blue Striped Merino Shirt - Size Medium

[Michael Ullmer]

I've had this for a number of years and just don't end up wearing it much.  
Always hand washed with wool wash and laid flat to dry.  It has a few small 
pin prick size holes in the bottom front that you can see in the last pic.

$55 shipped

PM off-list

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/DnD2nmcDjjz6MvpT8

Mike in Seattle

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[RBW] Ride Report: 2021 Rivendell Bicycle Works Appreciation Pedalpalooza Ride

[Emily Guise]

This past Saturday, my partner Greg and I led the RBW Appreciation 
Pedalpalooza Ride in Portland, OR. Pedalpalooza is a regular summer event 
here and it's basically fun bike rides about anything, led by anyone. 
Usually it's only in June but this year it was June-August. It has been so 
fun this summer and a great way to feel connected to the bike community 
during COVID. It's meant a lot to me this year.

Greg  and I noticed there wasn't a Riv-themed ride like there had been in  
years past, so we decided to lead one! It was so hot and muggy on  
Saturday, so we weren't sure how many people would come, but I was so  
happy to see about 30 folks waiting for us at the start point in Creston  
Park. After saying hi to people and admiring bikes, we had a round of  Riv 
trivia before heading to Coffee Beer for refreshments. Then we biked  along 
the Willamette River, with another trivia stop on the Esplanade. 

Meandering  up to N Williams Ave, we had a shade stop at Dawson Park, then 
rode up  to Golden Pliers for refreshments and to visit our local Riv 
dealer.  Kevin and Becky are absolutely the best and they were so excited 
to see  all the bikes. I was super excited to cool off in the AC in the 
shop for  a bit!

At this point, we were down to about 10 people (as expected-we'd ridden 
about 9 miles in mid-90s mugginess) but we had our last round of trivia and 
then a few of us rode  to the Skidmore Bluffs to enjoy our drinks and hang 
out in the shade. 

Overall  everything went so much better than I hoped! Riv people are really 
so nice, and this group was no exception. I got to meet a lot of folks IRL  
that I knew from online, and even the leader of previous Riv-themed  rides. 
Greg and I are already planning on doing another Riv ride in the fall and I 
really hope it will not be so hot so we can all wear our wool. :)

Link to check out photos of the ride! 


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[RBW] Re: Silver Shifters - Upgrade?

[Scott McLain]

I love the little red button on top of the micro shift shifters as well!

On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 5:39:29 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> To answer the question - and possibly comfort folks who missed out - in my 
> experience the difference in feel/performance between Silver2 and the 
> Microshift 9-speeders is not substantial. If you swap the Microshifts and 
> use friction for both, the rear shifter (which was the front) ends up with 
> a very similar power ratchet action. The front (which was the rear and 
> could be indexed) is now switched to a pure friction which I think is 
> smooth enough for the 2 or 3 rings you'll shift.
>
> Conclusion: Silver shifters are nice (definitely prettier), Microshift is 
> plenty good as well. 
>
> Joe "in this reporter's opinion" Bernard 
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 7:15:41 AM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looks like one side sold out already :-/
>>
>> Was thinking of replacing my Paul thumbies mounts with these for the 
>> adjustability. 
>>
>> Oh well
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 8:42:22 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all!
>>> I have an Atlantis w/Choco bars and run the Microshift SL-T09 in the 
>>> Groovy Rivendell reversed style. It's a Riv build and they didn't have 
>>> Silver shifters available when I ordered and I was a little sad about it. I 
>>> have no complains about the Microshifts whatsoever, but I'd love some 
>>> feedback from anyone who has experience with the newer Silver thumbies and 
>>> the Microshifts. I'm tempted to buy a pair of shifters and mounts now that 
>>> they're all in stock, but I'm not sure I really *need* to.
>>>
>>> Essentially, other than looking cooler (which is, to be sure, a valid 
>>> reason to change), is there any performance/usability advantage of Silver 
>>> shifters? 
>>>
>>> I appreciate your time!
>>> Ben 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Double Riv at Atlanta Kroger

[Patrick Moore]

When you said, "Rio Grande bike path" I immediately thought: "That's the
path just 1 mile from my house, just east across the RG river from my
house, that I ride all the time." But you are in Colorado. Aspen? Of
course, our RG bike path is perfectly flat ...

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:32 PM 'Willet Mather' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> ... and then another 5-6 miles back slightly uphill with a load along the
> lovely Rio Grande bike path.
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Re: [RBW] Re: #PlatyPosing: Post your pics here! (Riv Mixtes welcome, too.)

[Patrick Moore]

Good photos.

Leah, this one with the dog held in place by a cargo net particularly
caught my eye, because it reminds me of carrying 2 energetic (not to say
neurotic) Shi Tzu in a milk crate bolted to a tandem rear carrier. I had
lashed the dogs in place with shortened leashers, but the female, the
neurotic one, panicked when we exceeded 8 mph and took a dive over the
side, causing the bike and 4 occupants to go down. This almost crushed the
female, dangling by neck, between crate and asphalt, but I managed to save
her. A cargo net would have worked better.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:11 AM JAS  wrote:

> Leah, those are such great photos of your dog in the basket and wonderful
> memories for you, no doubt.  And look how little the wee one is on the
> trailer!  Now he's riding his own Riv.  What a legacy.  Thanks for
> inspiring us all to hoist our bikes and get out riding!
>
> #RivSisters,
> Joyce
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 8:27:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Joyce, HOW could we call your Corgi a Beagle? The shame!
>>
>> When I bought my first Rivendell, I needed it to be a sort of minivan -
>> fun for the whole family. I had little boys I needed to pull in a bike
>> trailer, and then I had this Eskimo dog who wanted to ride up front.
>>
>> I got the heavy-duty Nitto rack and the biggest Wald basket money could
>> buy and laid an old car mat in the bottom. That dog loved his basket and
>> even learned how to lean in the turns.
>>
>> The bike trailer was retired after a couple of years but the basket
>> stayed put with that dog in it from 2012-2019, when he finally died.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for towel rack bars version 2 and

[a spen]

Hi Sam, 
I believe I may have both of the items you are looking for.  Shoot me a 
message if you're interested.
Thanks,
Al


On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 8:15:48 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:

> Awesome thanks 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Minh  wrote:
>
> hey sam, in case you missed it, maxcr has an xpac for sale, he updated 
> his thread earlier today.  gl.
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 3:41:37 AM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>> Anyone have a towel rack bar version two or x pac fabios chest they’d 
>> like to catch and release? 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[RBW] Want to find "rayon" or "viscose" men's shirts, short sleeves, woven or knit

[Patrick Moore]

The web seems to have few and mostly in black and too big or small, so
perhaps someone can point me toward something that I like.

I'm looking for rayon -- ie wood or bamboo or other plant fiber that
has been alchemically reduced to its component elements and then
transmuted into spinnable, weavable or knittable fiber -- shirts
suitable for riding. Criteria:

1. Pure rayon, or if not pure, with just a wee bit of cotton or anything else.

2. Light colors: white, off white, light blue, light tan, bland
yellow, soft orange, very muted green, cyan/teal, etc. No lilac or
mauve or rose.

3. Trim fit. I generally take a long medium, ie long but slender torso.

4. Knit -- polo shirt or even t shirt, or woven -- bush shirt cut,
straight bottom, not too long, to be worn tail-out.

5. Street wearable.

6. At least 1 chest pocket; better 2.

If the shirts are knit, I'd be very interested to hear how well they
stand up to snagging and raveling.

I used to own the world's largest collection of rayon Hawaiian shirts
from Goodwill, in both tasteful and repellant designs, and rode in
them for years. They are wonderful for very hot weather riding, but
were too baggy -- headwind sails.

I don't want thin wool; I save wool for cool weather. And I don't want
synthetics chemically treated for odor resistance.

Speaking of synthetics and odor: I presently use plastic knits and
weaves for hot weather riding, and if I start clean each time, I can
get ~2, 2-to-3 hour rides or rides+walking-around sessions out of
each, if I hang them up in between and occasionally spritz pits with a
mix of white vinegar and water. But as with wool, or even more so,
rayon never stinks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 2001 Riv Custom $2100

[maxcr]

The Hilsen I put up for sale at the same time as this generated lots of 
interest and sold within a week, while the Custom only got the question 
from Dave above. 

I'm thinking maybe the custom was priced too high. I thought there would be 
more interest, but of course a custom isn't really a custom after the 
original owner had it built, now it's just a bike with a unique road 
geometry and given that more and more people want fatter tires and more 
slack geometries it might be less appealing to some... Anyway, to see if I 
can help get some people excited, here it goes: if you're a weight weenie, 
I think this bike fully built, as pictured weighs around 25lbs. Also, out 
of all the bikes I have ever ridden, this one is probably the most 
responsive and the Paul brakes have amazing breaking power. The way I see 
it, this is your chance to own (and ride) a piece of history. 

*New lower price: $1,900 + shipping*

Please let me know if you're interested.

Max in Boston
Feeling good about shipping good parts and an amazing bike to good people 
who will enjoy them while downsizing my bike obsession
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 11:12:54 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:

> I have a similar affinity towards my 6” steel rule. It’s metric on one 
> side and imperial on the other. 
> It is my most reached for tool by a long shot. Since I don’t own a vernier 
> caliper I poor boy it by using an adjustable wrench to get the diameter of 
> a tube or rod and then measure the opening with my ruler. 
> If I were a machinist I would want something with more critical tolerances 
> but this method has served me well in countless situations.   
>
> I had a talk with my niece a few weeks ago and explained to her the 
> importance of knowing how to repair things and that for most of my life I 
> have purchased a tool for a job that needed it and over the decades have 
> acquired tools to keep vehicles and appliances on the road and perform home 
> repairs. 
> Living a short bike ride from a good hardware store is just as important 
> as being able to repair things. 
>
> Question for Bill and others, what are you measuring that makes your 
> calipers indispensable….and why the cheap tool?
>
> Ray
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:35:05 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> I agree. I bought some calipers years ago and I grab them way more often 
>> than I expected to. A very useful tool to have.
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Anybody who cares about bikes enough to work on them should have an 
>> inexpensive vernier caliper.  They are <$10 at any hardware store.  Anybody 
>> who cares enough about working on stuff around the house should have an 
>> inexpensive vernier caliper.  Anybody who cares about the objective 
>> diameter of cylindrical objects should have one.  My workbench tends 
>> towards chaotic, so I bought two of the identical cheapo model.  They both 
>> live on the same hook on my toolboard, so if I set one down without putting 
>> it away, I still can get the other one to do the measurement I need.  There 
>> are only a few tools that are important enough to double up on my 
>> toolboard, and that's one of them.  
>>
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 6:07:25 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the insight Bill! I don't own a caliper so until I make my 
>>> way to the LBS, we won't be sure...
>>>
>>> Dave, the standover height is approx. 34"
>>>
>>> Max
>>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:28:13 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 That may also explain the fillet brazed bottom bracket on the Frank 
 Jones Sr.

 The Hubbuhubbuhs also used tubes that change section from round to 
 oval, as did the Rosco Babys.

 Laing

 On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:04:47 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Max asked something about bulged tube ends on historical Rivendells.  
> I'm not sure about the precise question.  What I do know is that Grant 
> told 
> me that they have employed a number of 'baseball bat' frame tubes on 
> various things.  Seat tube that bulge from 28.6 up to 31.8 at the BB is 
> one 
> example.  The reason I brought it up with Grant was when they offered the 
> Frank Jones Senor with a 28.6mm downtube.  That was the only Rivendell I 
> had ever heard of with a non-OS Downtube, and I knew Rivendell has their 
> own lugs cast, so it was kind of shocking to me that Rivendell would go 
> out 
> of their way to offer a bike with a standard diameter downtube, when 
> they'd 
> been defending 31.8 against the planing zealots for years.  Grant 
> explained 
> to me that the lower head lug they were using in the Frank Jones Senor 
> was 
> from a pile of lower headlugs that they would use on SMALL customs.  They 
> would use a baseball bat tube shaped downtube that 

[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Standard black, hardly ridden

[Joe Bernard]

$90 shipped



On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:14:44 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 11:22:19 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> That weird crease on the side is a reflection, I need to do a better 
>> day-lighting pic tomorrow. 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 10:55:03 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Obenaufed once, no break-in, $100 shipped
>>> PayPal F or fees, Venmo
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> joeremi62 gmail com
>>> Text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Perfect high-tech dirt road riding shoes

[Patrick Moore]

These Target shoes are pretty wide and big for the marked size; again, 10
fits looser on my medium width foot than an 11 in the mountain bike shoes,
both tried with winter socks. And, $19.99.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:18 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I like the simple canvas sneakers too, but usually find them too narrow. I
> recently learned that some Converse and Vans now come in wide; I got the
> Converse and they make nice riding shoes. (Closer to $60 but still cheaper
> than 510s).
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:31:34 PM UTC-5 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>> Looked on their site,  they appear to be the Men's Park Sneakers by
>> Goodfellow & Co.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:27 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Target, my good man. Always Target.
>>>
>>> Patrick "Target never lets you down" Moore, who has no more details to
>>> give, alas. They were hanging on hooks, looked like what I want, and after
>>> trying them on, I paid for them.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:25 AM Benjamin L. Kelley <
>>> benjami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Details on these shoes?   They sort of look like the Chrome Truk
 sneaker, but less aggressive on the side sole and thicker around the 
 ankles.

 --ben

 On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:08 PM Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> I spent over $200 on shoes (Five Ten, $150) and pedals ($50+,
> recommended by experts) for "no retention" pedaling, and hated both pedals
> and shoes, so I did the usual and sold them -- as always -- at a loss with
> ~50 miles on them.
>
> I went back to the ol' reliable MKS Esprit pedal,
> semi-platform/semi-rat trap, with XL/X Deep MKS clips, and for the shoes I
> just paid $19.99 + tax for these hi-tek babies. Somewhat like my
> general-wear boat shoes but with lace-up vamps to keep the dirt out.
>
> These will slide into and out of the straps very easily, be very
> sufficiently supported by the large pedal body and retained sufficiently 
> by
> the serrations, be easy to walk in, and look minimally decent (dust
> colored, too).
>
> Live 'n' learn.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots of Goodies, Including Brakes, Bars, Brooks Saddle and a Wheelset

[Erik]

And then it was two derailleurs and a saddle: 

RD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
 $   40.00 
Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
 $   25.00 
Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
 $   85.00 

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 1:07:52 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:

> The following items are still available: 
>
> IRD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
>  $   40.00 
> Wheelset: Velocity A23 /White Industries M15 32h front, 36 rear.  700cc / 
> 135mm
>  $ 600.00 
> Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
>  $   25.00 
> Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
>  $   85.00 
>
> More info on the specifics and conditions of each item can be found here: 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bXo_fpfV5PYsSxpX7tYtOQo5O-elYl0v4Xr1nsTzSaw/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Photos of all goods are here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/28WH4kr2S4c1qcqSA
>>>
>>> Feel free to send me a direct message with any questions or to make 
>>> purchase arrangements.  
>>>
>>> Erik 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto M174 or RM013 handlebar

[Eric M Cardella]

Bump

Lots of great information offered, but I still have not found the bar I’m 
looking for. It would appear that perhaps I need to expand my search to include 
26.0 clamp diameter. 

Anyone holding on to a Nitto RM-013 or M174? The Maes Parallel has also been 
mentioned as an excellent bar, although I have no experience with one.

Eric

> On Aug 12, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Eric M Cardella  wrote:
> 
> I am in search of a drop bar similar to the Noodle, but offered in 25.4 
> clamp diameter and preferably as wide as possible (48-52cm target width). 
> I’ve seen lots of comments and analysis on the M174 “Fairweather Allroad” bar 
> and the RM013 “Dirt Drop” bar. Never tried either, but I rode the Noodle in 
> 46cm for many years and would be looking for something similar.
> 
> I welcome any insights from folks with real-time experience with either of 
> these bars. I also welcome alternative suggestions, provided that whatever 
> you’re suggesting (A) actually exists and (B) can feasibly be purchased in 
> the modern USA market.
> 
> Used is great, or new. Usage is for a touring/allroad build I’m doing. This 
> will be my bike for longer, self-supported tours, and I generally prefer to 
> ride 50% in the hoods and 50% in the drops using bar end shifters. So, 
> relatively shallow drop so I don’t end up too stretched out, and with enough 
> forward reach on the hoods to comfortably ride on the “ramps.”
> 
> What’ve y’all got?
> 
> Eric

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