[RBW] Re: FS Riv Pants

[Adam Moss]

Sold. Thanks for all the interest.


On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:24:08 AM UTC-7 Adam Moss wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Size small Riv Pants (latest iteration) like new for $40 plus shipping 
> from Berkeley. 
>
> Thanks!
> Adam
>

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[Ray Varella]

I have a couple of those 12-34 8 speed cassettes in use, one with a Suntour 
XC Pro rear mech and one with a first generation Deore XT, both shifted in 
friction,  they both shift so smooth and quietly I find myself looking down 
to see if they changed cogs. 
 For $20 they are a bargain. If the range works for you, I don’t see how 
you can go wrong. 

Hey Garth, you can get an Ultegra 13T to replace the 12, I’ve done that 
too. 
Unfortunately TA discontinued their Podium line of cassettes. 

Rivendell is working on a 7 speed unit that looks promising.  

Ray
On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 3:27:05 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 
>
> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>
> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>
> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>
> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use 
> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 
> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
> digits read like tea leaves. 
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings, 
 Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
 besides the Sunrace?
 Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
 options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
 thank you
 JS

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Re: [RBW] Re: ¡¡Garage Sale!! Frameset, Nitto, Paul, Rene Herse, bags, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

It's right around 345mm

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:23 PM Karl Wilcox  wrote:

> How long is the steer tube on the Evans Frame?
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:08 PM Andrew Turner 
> wrote:
>
>> End of day update, here's what's left:
>>
>> *1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
>> *This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with
>> 531 tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The
>> frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge
>> made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo
>> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons
>> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but
>> helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too
>> crazy.*
>>
>> *F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
>> *Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *
>>
>> *Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll
>> include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
>> *Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems   *
>> *Nitto 65 27.0 seatpost + 2x VO Noir bottle cages*
>> *Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are
>> due to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very
>> snug fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *
>>
>> *2: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free shipping *
>> *Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but
>> otherwise pretty darn immaculate. I did remove the stabilizing elastic
>> chords, but I found they weren't all that necessary.  *
>>
>> *3: "NOS" Ultegra 1" threaded headset + brass spacer: $70 + free shipping*
>> *I bought this NOS in the box from Analog a while back, mounted it once
>> but quickly replaced it...I don't even think it's seen any mileage. some
>> slight wear marks on the logo from storage but otherwise in great
>> condition. Sorry for the grease pics, I'll clean it all up before shipping
>> it. I did one modification, I cut a little notch out of the crown race as
>> it was crazy hard to install...doesn't affect performance whatsoever, just
>> makes it a little easier to install.  *
>>
>> *4: Paul Funky Monkey 7/8" Cable Hanger + fancy brass barrel adjuster:
>> $50 + free shipping *
>> *Fits around a quill stem, great condition. Mostly lived it's life on a
>> bike that never got ridden.  *
>>
>>
>> *5: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike
>> Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike to
>> see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 4:04:23 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Adding another item:
>>>
>>>
>>> *9: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike
>>> Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike
>>> to see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette.
>>>
>>> The tires, low-rider rack + bags, & Nitto plugs are spoken for.
>>> Another thing to mention for the bike frame: Everything you see in the
>>> pics comes with it, so those VO Noir stainless bottle cages and the 27.0
>>> Nitto 65 seatpost.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Here's the link to all the images. I'll try and stay on top of it and
 delete the ones that sell. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dyDZAVfj6t6ppzNa8


 *1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
 *This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with
 531 tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The
 frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge
 made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo
 Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons
 for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but
 helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too
 crazy.*

 *F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
 *Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *

 *Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll
 include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
 *Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems  *
 *Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are
 due to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very
 snug fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *


 *2: Tubus Lowrider racks + vintage REI Novara small panniers: $60 +
 free shipping**I bought these for the FW Evans but never ended up
 using them. Both are clearly worn but I figured if anyone's
 pannier-curious, these are a good entry-level op

Re: [RBW] Re: ¡¡Garage Sale!! Frameset, Nitto, Paul, Rene Herse, bags, etc.

[Karl Wilcox]

How long is the steer tube on the Evans Frame?

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:08 PM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> End of day update, here's what's left:
>
> *1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
> *This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with
> 531 tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The
> frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge
> made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo
> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons
> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but
> helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too
> crazy.*
>
> *F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
> *Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *
>
> *Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll
> include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
> *Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems   *
> *Nitto 65 27.0 seatpost + 2x VO Noir bottle cages*
> *Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are
> due to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very
> snug fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *
>
> *2: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free shipping *
> *Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but
> otherwise pretty darn immaculate. I did remove the stabilizing elastic
> chords, but I found they weren't all that necessary.  *
>
> *3: "NOS" Ultegra 1" threaded headset + brass spacer: $70 + free shipping*
> *I bought this NOS in the box from Analog a while back, mounted it once
> but quickly replaced it...I don't even think it's seen any mileage. some
> slight wear marks on the logo from storage but otherwise in great
> condition. Sorry for the grease pics, I'll clean it all up before shipping
> it. I did one modification, I cut a little notch out of the crown race as
> it was crazy hard to install...doesn't affect performance whatsoever, just
> makes it a little easier to install.  *
>
> *4: Paul Funky Monkey 7/8" Cable Hanger + fancy brass barrel adjuster: $50
> + free shipping *
> *Fits around a quill stem, great condition. Mostly lived it's life on a
> bike that never got ridden.  *
>
>
> *5: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike
> Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike to
> see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette.
>
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 4:04:23 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Adding another item:
>>
>>
>> *9: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike
>> Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike to
>> see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette.
>>
>> The tires, low-rider rack + bags, & Nitto plugs are spoken for.
>> Another thing to mention for the bike frame: Everything you see in the
>> pics comes with it, so those VO Noir stainless bottle cages and the 27.0
>> Nitto 65 seatpost.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the link to all the images. I'll try and stay on top of it and
>>> delete the ones that sell. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dyDZAVfj6t6ppzNa8
>>>
>>> *1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
>>> *This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with
>>> 531 tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The
>>> frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge
>>> made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo
>>> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons
>>> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but
>>> helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too
>>> crazy.*
>>>
>>> *F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
>>> *Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *
>>>
>>> *Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll
>>> include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
>>> *Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems  *
>>> *Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are
>>> due to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very
>>> snug fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *
>>>
>>>
>>> *2: Tubus Lowrider racks + vintage REI Novara small panniers: $60 + free
>>> shipping**I bought these for the FW Evans but never ended up using
>>> them. Both are clearly worn but I figured if anyone's pannier-curious,
>>> these are a good entry-level option. *
>>>
>>> *3: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free
>>> shipping *
>>> *Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but
>>> otherwise pr

[RBW] Re: ¡¡Garage Sale!! Frameset, Nitto, Paul, Rene Herse, bags, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

End of day update, here's what's left: 

*1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
*This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with 531 
tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The 
frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge 
made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo 
Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons 
for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but 
helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too 
crazy.*

*F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
*Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *

*Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll 
include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
*Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems   *
*Nitto 65 27.0 seatpost + 2x VO Noir bottle cages*
*Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are due 
to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very snug 
fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *

*2: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free shipping *
*Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but 
otherwise pretty darn immaculate. I did remove the stabilizing elastic 
chords, but I found they weren't all that necessary.  *

*3: "NOS" Ultegra 1" threaded headset + brass spacer: $70 + free shipping*
*I bought this NOS in the box from Analog a while back, mounted it once but 
quickly replaced it...I don't even think it's seen any mileage. some slight 
wear marks on the logo from storage but otherwise in great condition. Sorry 
for the grease pics, I'll clean it all up before shipping it. I did one 
modification, I cut a little notch out of the crown race as it was crazy 
hard to install...doesn't affect performance whatsoever, just makes it a 
little easier to install.  *

*4: Paul Funky Monkey 7/8" Cable Hanger + fancy brass barrel adjuster: $50 
+ free shipping *
*Fits around a quill stem, great condition. Mostly lived it's life on a 
bike that never got ridden.  *


*5: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike 
Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike to 
see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette. 


On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 4:04:23 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Adding another item: 
>
>
> *9: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike 
> Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike to 
> see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette.  
>
> The tires, low-rider rack + bags, & Nitto plugs are spoken for. 
> Another thing to mention for the bike frame: Everything you see in the 
> pics comes with it, so those VO Noir stainless bottle cages and the 27.0 
> Nitto 65 seatpost. 
>
> Cheers
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Here's the link to all the images. I'll try and stay on top of it and 
>> delete the ones that sell. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dyDZAVfj6t6ppzNa8  
>>
>> *1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
>> *This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with 
>> 531 tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The 
>> frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge 
>> made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo 
>> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons 
>> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but 
>> helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too 
>> crazy.*
>>
>> *F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
>> *Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *
>>
>> *Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll 
>> include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
>> *Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems  *
>> *Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are 
>> due to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very 
>> snug fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *
>>
>>
>> *2: Tubus Lowrider racks + vintage REI Novara small panniers: $60 + free 
>> shipping**I bought these for the FW Evans but never ended up using them. 
>> Both are clearly worn but I figured if anyone's pannier-curious, these are 
>> a good entry-level option. *
>>
>> *3: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free shipping *
>> *Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but 
>> otherwise pretty darn immaculate. I did remove the stabilizing elastic 
>> chords, but I found they weren't all that necessary.  *
>>
>> *4: Nitto Bar End plugs, Blue: $20 + free shipping  *
>> *Mostly bee

Re: [RBW] FS BUMP: Paul RACER Brakes Hi-Polish. NIB.

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Drat too late too slow.  Great deal and congrats for those new possessors

Ryan

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 8:35:16 PM UTC-4 Elton Lance wrote:

> All are SOLD.
>
>
> Elton Lance
> Vero Beach, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2021, at 6:46 PM, 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Elton,
>
> If any of these are available still please let me know.  Attempted to 
> contact you with DM but appears to be to no avail.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> Muskegon, MI 49445
> (616)928-4226 <(616)%20928-4226>
>
> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 1:35:45 PM UTC-4 Elton Lance wrote:
>
>> Paul Centerpull fans,
>>
>> These are:
>>
>> - New in original box. 
>> - Hi-Polish silver.
>> - Center mount - recessed.  Fronts can also be used as bolt-on rears. 
>> - Straddle cables, yokes & KS Thinline salmon pads included. 
>>
>> 2 Front and 1 rear available.
>>
>> $140 each (net to me), shipped CONUS.
>>
>> PM if interested.
>>
>> - Elton
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Patrick Moore]

+1, though modern LED blinkies are so bright that even dangling
face-downward or pointing at the sky they give off a surprising amount of
light rearward.

But yes, they are directional.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 4:21 PM Andrew Letton  wrote:

> Pet peeve rant warning:
>
> Most LED taillights are highly directional, and as such, they need to be
> mounted rigidly and aimed correctly "back down the road" to be most
> effective.
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[Garth]

Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 

What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.

This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.

http://www.gear-calculator.com/

Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use for 
11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 9-sp 
that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
digits read like tea leaves. 
On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings, 
>>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>>> besides the Sunrace?
>>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>>> thank you
>>> JS
>>>
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>>>  
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>> -- 
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>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>
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Re: [RBW] SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Andrew Letton]

 Pet peeve rant warning:
Most LED taillights are highly directional, and as such, they need to be 
mounted rigidly and aimed correctly "back down the road" to be most 
effective.Personally, I think that bag makers should stop putting light loops 
on floppy bags, as they give the rider a false sense of security, thinking 
their taillight will make them seen from behind, when in fact, their taillight 
is usually pointing at a spot on the ground 2m behind the bike or somewhere to 
the left of the moon...not at the cars behind them.
Please mount taillights rigidly to your frame, saddle rails, fender, or rack!
/:rant off:/
Thanks and cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On Saturday, October 30, 2021, 07:53:15 AM GMT+11, Sean B. 
 wrote:  
 
 Thank you for all the replies. I would like a SON rear light that's always on, 
and a secondary light. But, I dont have much room to mount a battery powered 
one. I was looking for some kind of hanging light to attach to my North Street 
trunk sack. The only hanging light I can find is Well google "hanging bike 
light" if you'd like.
Anyways, does any one know of a hanging light to attach to a bag?


On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 3:23:56 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

I have a SON28, Edelux 2, and the SON rear light mounted on the backside of a 
Brooks. I don't feel totally safe with just the SON tail light, it's great that 
it's there, but I def. augment it with something much much stronger, namely a 
Diontte. I've been knocked off my bike three times in Philly, once I started to 
ride with a Dinotte, people def. could see me. The SON is cute, and it's nice 
to always have something on, but it's easy enough to overlook from a driver's 
point of view, and I'm not totally in love with the extra wiring going the rear 
of the bike. if I had this system built out again, I'd just go with a high-end 
battery-powered light, the Diontte is a game-changer in you have to ride in 
heavy traffic day or night.

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-4 Chris wrote:

I have two bikes with dynamos one has a B&M top light small but the best 
solution I’ve found is the B&M taillight built into my Curana C Lite. I like 
the fender solution so much that that the bike with the top lite will get C 
Lite fenders simply for the ease and cleanliness.

Chris

On Oct 26, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Mathieu Brown  wrote:



Good day Sean,


I know that this isn’t the answer to your question but both my local bike shop 
and Rivendell stated, this fall (as I built up my own dyno Riv) that for a lot 
of people, dyno rear lights might be more trouble than they’re worth. 
I ended up with a Cygolight HotRod, based on recommendation.
Nice and bright.
Team, please feel free to tell us we’re soft here by only going dyno in the 
front…
Mathieu Brown
Sent from my iPhone.

On Oct 26, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Sean B.  wrote:



Hello!
I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlightand was 
wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience with the SON 
Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you using it on? I cant 
find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 
Thanks! 


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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Matthew P]

Nosegrind on the pool coping!  Nice ledgework too.

I think the Anti Hero (& Girl-Anti Hero "Beauty & the Beast") trips of 
camping/sleeping wherever, in urban parks etc., changed the way I think 
about travel.
They showed me that "out there" begins wherever you've never been, which 
starts really close to home for me, despite having been much further.
And the bike is my way to fill in the gaps.
-Matthew P
doing local bike camping in San Diego on Kumeyaay land

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 7:19:25 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:

> You guys rip! That was s fun to watch. You've inspired me to go for a 
> bike-skate sesh even though it's going to feel mildly wintry here this week.
>
> On Monday, 1 November 2021 at 09:53:53 UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Hell yeah dude, likewise if you come by NC.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:26:12 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing 
>>> a year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.
>>>
>>> Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
>>> again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
>>> up for a ride.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last 
 week in Connecticut, it was a great time!

 On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
>
> took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
> Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential 
> order.
>
> The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at 
> best planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much 
> dirt 
> and gravel as possible.  
> We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
> plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get 
> the 
> front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
> skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
> begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
> herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and 
> has 
> already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
> Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
> portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
> up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
> crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
> there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
> along the way towards Yakima.  
>
> We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If 
> you didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per 
> capita.  The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to 
> be. We rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
> towards Bingen, WA.
> After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
> Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode 
> to 
> Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
> After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
> on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
> due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
> and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing 
> the 
> Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
> the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our 
> bikes 
> to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through 
> the 
> Oakland area. 
> We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day 
> expect one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. 
> Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and 
> took 
> BART back to our friends place in Oakland.
> After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
> August 12th.
> The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can 
> go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
> carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but 
> totally 
> worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
>
> -Joseph
>
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[RBW] Re: ¡¡Garage Sale!! Frameset, Nitto, Paul, Rene Herse, bags, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

Adding another item: 


*9: SHIMANO XT Cassette CS-M8000 11-speed 11-40 Teeth MTB Mountain Bike 
Cassette: $95 + free shipping*Brand new. I just mounted it on my bike to 
see if it would work...it does not :( Back to the corncob cassette.  

The tires, low-rider rack + bags, & Nitto plugs are spoken for. 
Another thing to mention for the bike frame: Everything you see in the pics 
comes with it, so those VO Noir stainless bottle cages and the 27.0 Nitto 
65 seatpost. 

Cheers

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 11:44:42 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Here's the link to all the images. I'll try and stay on top of it and 
> delete the ones that sell. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dyDZAVfj6t6ppzNa8  
>
> *1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
> *This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with 
> 531 tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The 
> frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge 
> made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo 
> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons 
> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but 
> helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too 
> crazy.*
>
> *F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
> *Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *
>
> *Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll 
> include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
> *Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems  *
> *Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are 
> due to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very 
> snug fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *
>
>
> *2: Tubus Lowrider racks + vintage REI Novara small panniers: $60 + free 
> shipping**I bought these for the FW Evans but never ended up using them. 
> Both are clearly worn but I figured if anyone's pannier-curious, these are 
> a good entry-level option. *
>
> *3: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free shipping *
> *Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but 
> otherwise pretty darn immaculate. I did remove the stabilizing elastic 
> chords, but I found they weren't all that necessary.  *
>
> *4: Nitto Bar End plugs, Blue: $20 + free shipping  *
> *Mostly been living their lives in my small parts bin and they deserve 
> better *
>
> *5: "NOS" Ultegra 1" threaded headset + brass spacer: $70 + free shipping*
> *I bought this NOS in the box from Analog a while back, mounted it once 
> but quickly replaced it...I don't even think it's seen any mileage. some 
> slight wear marks on the logo from storage but otherwise in great 
> condition. Sorry for the grease pics, I'll clean it all up before shipping 
> it. I did one modification, I cut a little notch out of the crown race as 
> it was crazy hard to install...doesn't affect performance whatsoever, just 
> makes it a little easier to install.  *
>
> *6: Paul Funky Monkey 7/8" Cable Hanger + fancy brass barrel adjuster: $50 
> + free shipping *
> *Fits around a quill stem, great condition. Mostly lived it's life on a 
> bike that never got ridden.  *
>
>
> *7: Rene Herse Front Cable Hanger, Grooved + Ferrule: $50 + free shipping 
> **Brand 
> new just out of it's packaging, never used.  *
>
> *8: Pair of Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass Extralight tan tires: $105 + free 
> shipping  *
> *These have less than 300 miles on them, a little dirty but tons and tons 
> of life left. The gnarliest thing the rear tire faced was 2 pinch flats on 
> a gravel ride resulting in a humiliating walk back to the car with a flat 
> tire, so that one got a little worn down on the sidewalls where it meets 
> the rubber. Doesn't look like any serious damage was done and it still 
> holds air fine. I don't recommend running these tubeless though. I never 
> did on these but on a previous pair, they didn't hold air very well and 
> took a ton of sealant to seal the thin sidewalls. But man are they fast. *
>
>

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[Joe Bernard]

I have a SunRace 11-speed on my custom. I wouldn't worry about that 
company, it's good stuff. And generally available!

Joe Bernard

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 12:41:07 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> JS:
>
> Sunrace has a 12-34 8 speed.  I've used them & they are fine.  With 700c 
> wheels & a 24-34-44 triple I have all the gear range I need.  However, if 
> you have 26" wheels, an 11 may be better.  My wife has 26" wheels & uses 
> her 46 x 11 top gear.  We are both recreational riders.  
>
> I've used cassettes with a 32 big cog, & found the change from the 28 to 
> be not quite enough.  With the 34, I like that last jump from 28 to 34 as 
> it feels like I've really gained something.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 7:39:12 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings, 
 Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
 besides the Sunrace?
 Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
 options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
 thank you
 JS

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[dougP]

JS:

Sunrace has a 12-34 8 speed.  I've used them & they are fine.  With 700c 
wheels & a 24-34-44 triple I have all the gear range I need.  However, if 
you have 26" wheels, an 11 may be better.  My wife has 26" wheels & uses 
her 46 x 11 top gear.  We are both recreational riders.  

I've used cassettes with a 32 big cog, & found the change from the 28 to be 
not quite enough.  With the 34, I like that last jump from 28 to 34 as it 
feels like I've really gained something.

dougP

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 7:39:12 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings, 
>>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>>> besides the Sunrace?
>>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>>> thank you
>>> JS
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug, Very excited for you that's a handsome build and nice bits and pieces.

Ron, Always happy to geek out on bikes with you brother! This is gonna be a 
fun project and a great thread to follow along.

Cheers,

Hugh n LA

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 8:12:07 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Congrats! I bought one of the web special Clem L bikes that was built up 
> 1x10 with a Shimano indexed shifter. It has Tosco bars, Cliffhanger wheels, 
> Teravail Ehline tires, and a Clipper crankset. I'll attach a photo from the 
> website as it hasn't been shipped yet (hopefully today!). I'll use a Brooks 
> C17 saddle.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>>
>> I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond 
>> stoked to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an Atlantis 
>> frame and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) in 
>> the *Staff Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be calling 
>> to me. And then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much better BTW), 
>> there is the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of Grant's Clem battling 
>> a pretty gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision making 
>> process...which isn't hard to do, BTW. 
>>
>>  After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone 
>> calls with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the 
>> trigger on buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
>>  
>> Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of my 
>> own parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike and 
>> I will be replacing some of the parts on the complete. 
>>
>> If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow Clem 
>> Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds. 
>>
>> That would be awesome. 
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thumb Shifters, Compass Tires, Cetma Rack

[Michael Ullmer]

Final bump on these last items, open to offers. 

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 12:05:38 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Babyshoe pass tires are sold
>
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:49:27 AM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Bump and price drop:
>>
>> 1) Newer version 5-rail - $70 shipped
>>
>> 2) Suntour Thumbies - $25 shipped
>>
>> 3) Compass Babyshoe Pass Standard Casing - $45 shipped for the pair
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 1:32:37 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> Cross posting from the i-bob list:
>>>
>>> Consolidating my FS posts and adding a couple new items:
>>>
>>> 1) Newer version 5-rail - $80 shipped
>>> --This is the current design which has the mounting holes attached to 
>>> the bottom of the platform and has straight stays. A few nicks here and 
>>> there. Comes with mounting hardware and two brackets you can use if your 
>>> handlebars are very high (which mine were). 
>>>
>>> 2) Suntour Thumbies - $35 shipped
>>> --Non-ratcheting version with mismatched clamping bolts. Functionally 
>>> great.
>>>
>>> 3) Compass Babyshoe Pass Standard Casing - $55 shipped for the pair
>>> --I switched to Extralight Compass Tires and don't need these. I'm not 
>>> great at estimating miles, but I'd guess somewhere around 1000. The one 
>>> with more wear on it had a slit in the sidewall that I patched and hasn't 
>>> been a problem since. There's some sealant residue on the inside. Price 
>>> reflects the wear.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/1aEg66bs8Lf7q1eL8
>>>
>>> PM off-list
>>>
>>

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[RBW] ¡¡Garage Sale!! Frameset, Nitto, Paul, Rene Herse, bags, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

Here's the link to all the images. I'll try and stay on top of it and 
delete the ones that sell. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dyDZAVfj6t6ppzNa8  

*1: FW Evans Frameset: $400 + half shipping *
*This is an English-made frameset made in the late 80s, early 90's with 531 
tubing. Great for touring, commuting, randonneuring, even 'cross. The 
frameset sports a fresh  powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge 
made by yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo 
Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons 
for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but 
helpful stuff. There's been some chipping here and there but nothing too 
crazy.*

*F**rame size: (C-C): 63ST, 58TT *
*Steerer has been recently extended for 1" threadless use *

*Color coordinated NOS Cane Creek 1" headset + bike jerks stem cap I'll 
include all the 1" headset spacers I have, carbon and silver alloy.  *
*Also includes the 1" to 1-1/8" shim for modern stems  *
*Max tire size: 35mm slicks. Those bald spots inside the chainstays are due 
to the rear QR coming loose and the Bon Jon's rubbing, so it's a very snug 
fit. 32-33 is a much much better fit. 38's WILL NOT FIT.   *


*2: Tubus Lowrider racks + vintage REI Novara small panniers: $60 + free 
shipping**I bought these for the FW Evans but never ended up using them. 
Both are clearly worn but I figured if anyone's pannier-curious, these are 
a good entry-level option. *

*3: Ruthworks Black Ultralight Brevet Handlebar Bag: $90 + free shipping *
*Very lightly used, there is a subtle stain on the inside pocket but 
otherwise pretty darn immaculate. I did remove the stabilizing elastic 
chords, but I found they weren't all that necessary.  *

*4: Nitto Bar End plugs, Blue: $20 + free shipping  *
*Mostly been living their lives in my small parts bin and they deserve 
better *

*5: "NOS" Ultegra 1" threaded headset + brass spacer: $70 + free shipping*
*I bought this NOS in the box from Analog a while back, mounted it once but 
quickly replaced it...I don't even think it's seen any mileage. some slight 
wear marks on the logo from storage but otherwise in great condition. Sorry 
for the grease pics, I'll clean it all up before shipping it. I did one 
modification, I cut a little notch out of the crown race as it was crazy 
hard to install...doesn't affect performance whatsoever, just makes it a 
little easier to install.  *

*6: Paul Funky Monkey 7/8" Cable Hanger + fancy brass barrel adjuster: $50 
+ free shipping *
*Fits around a quill stem, great condition. Mostly lived it's life on a 
bike that never got ridden.  *


*7: Rene Herse Front Cable Hanger, Grooved + Ferrule: $50 + free shipping 
**Brand 
new just out of it's packaging, never used.  *

*8: Pair of Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass Extralight tan tires: $105 + free 
shipping  *
*These have less than 300 miles on them, a little dirty but tons and tons 
of life left. The gnarliest thing the rear tire faced was 2 pinch flats on 
a gravel ride resulting in a humiliating walk back to the car with a flat 
tire, so that one got a little worn down on the sidewalls where it meets 
the rubber. Doesn't look like any serious damage was done and it still 
holds air fine. I don't recommend running these tubeless though. I never 
did on these but on a previous pair, they didn't hold air very well and 
took a ton of sealant to seal the thin sidewalls. But man are they fast. *

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Re: [RBW] Re: Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Ron Frazelle]

That's awesome!

Thanks!

Ron

"Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." -
Grant Petersen



On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:12 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Congrats! I bought one of the web special Clem L bikes that was built up
> 1x10 with a Shimano indexed shifter. It has Tosco bars, Cliffhanger wheels,
> Teravail Ehline tires, and a Clipper crankset. I'll attach a photo from the
> website as it hasn't been shipped yet (hopefully today!). I'll use a Brooks
> C17 saddle.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond
>> stoked to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an Atlantis
>> frame and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) in
>> the *Staff Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be calling
>> to me. And then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much better BTW),
>> there is the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of Grant's Clem battling
>> a pretty gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision making
>> process...which isn't hard to do, BTW.
>>
>>  After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone
>> calls with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the
>> trigger on buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
>>
>> Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of my
>> own parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike and
>> I will be replacing some of the parts on the complete.
>>
>> If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow Clem
>> Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds.
>>
>> That would be awesome.
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>
>>
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[RBW] Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi all, 

I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond stoked 
to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an Atlantis frame 
and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) in the 
*Staff 
Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be calling to me. And 
then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much better BTW), there is 
the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of Grant's Clem battling a pretty 
gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision making process...which 
isn't hard to do, BTW. 

 After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone calls 
with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the trigger on 
buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
 
Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of my own 
parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike and I 
will be replacing some of the parts on the complete. 

If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow Clem 
Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds. 

That would be awesome. 

Thanks! :)
 

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[Pam Bikes]

I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
 Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
> bike for the last year.  Steve
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>
>> Greetings, 
>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>> besides the Sunrace?
>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>> thank you
>> JS
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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Damien]

You guys rip! That was s fun to watch. You've inspired me to go for a 
bike-skate sesh even though it's going to feel mildly wintry here this week.

On Monday, 1 November 2021 at 09:53:53 UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Hell yeah dude, likewise if you come by NC.
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:26:12 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing 
>> a year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.
>>
>> Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
>> again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
>> up for a ride.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last 
>>> week in Connecticut, it was a great time!
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc

 took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
 Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential 
 order.

 The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at 
 best planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt 
 and gravel as possible.  
 We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
 plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
 front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
 skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
 begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
 herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and 
 has 
 already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
 Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
 portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
 up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
 crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
 there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
 along the way towards Yakima.  

 We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If 
 you didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per 
 capita.  The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to 
 be. We rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
 towards Bingen, WA.
 After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
 Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to 
 Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
 After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
 on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
 due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
 and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing 
 the 
 Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
 the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our 
 bikes 
 to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
 Oakland area. 
 We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day 
 expect one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. 
 Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and 
 took 
 BART back to our friends place in Oakland.
 After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
 August 12th.
 The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can 
 go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
 carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
 worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  

 -Joseph



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[RBW] Re: Feeler: Trade 58cm(ct) Riv All Rounder(or 61cm Toyo Atlantis) for 58cm Toyo Atlantis

[Matt Beecher]

Thanks.  I hope to be able to build something up to ride it this weekend.  
I might have to substitute the planned triple for a Sugino Mighty double.  
I'm guessing that with those smaller wheels, I might not need the granny 
gear.  

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 8:40:37 PM UTC-5 Justin wrote:

> Very Nice. The Pro's Closet All Rounder. I won't bother you further but if 
> you change your mind you have my email from the one I sent yesterday. Feel 
> free to reach out. 
>
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 8:27:44 PM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> Some people have asked about photos of the All Rounder.  I think I am 
>> going to continue rebuilding it up in a different way and give it another 
>> shot, once I track down a new chainring.  That said, I have all of the 
>> parts from the way I received it...except I might or might not have those 
>> fenders anymore. I was never a fan of that Mavic crankset.
>>
>> The first photo, with the starfish cranks is how I received and how I 
>> would trade it. 
>>
>> The second photo components I would save for an Atlantis, so those 
>> components would not be available...unless you  really want that ugly 
>> stem.  It is what I have available, without disassembling the other. 
>>
>> [image: sale ad photo.JPG][image: IMG_3353.JPG]
>>
>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 9:13:36 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> I've been looking to buy a 58cm Toyo Atlantis for a little while and I 
>>> am debating the idea of trading what I assume to be a 58 orange All-Rounder 
>>> for it.  The 58cm measurement came from the center of the bb to the tip of 
>>> the lug.  It seems to be about 56 center to center on the seat tube. 
>>>
>>> Paint is in great shape, but one of the rear fender/rack eyelets has 
>>> been snapped off.  :(
>>>
>>> The 61cm Atlantis is also in pretty good condition, but the paint is not 
>>> quite as nice, but this one wasn't neutered. 
>>>
>>> I am not interested in selling either one.  They are only being 
>>> sacrificed for something I want more at the moment.  
>>>
>>> (If someone likes titanium, I also have a similar sized Litespeed 
>>> Appalachian or Airborne Carpe Diem bike I would trade for a frameset.)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt B 
>>> Oswego, IL
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[Steven Sweedler]

There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring
bike for the last year.  Steve

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:

> Greetings,
> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there
> besides the Sunrace?
> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other
> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
> thank you
> JS
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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Stephen]

Hell yeah dude, likewise if you come by NC.

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:26:12 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing a 
> year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.
>
> Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
> again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
> up for a ride.
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>
>> This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last 
>> week in Connecticut, it was a great time!
>>
>> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
>>>
>>> took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
>>> Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential order.
>>>
>>> The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at best 
>>> planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt and 
>>> gravel as possible.  
>>> We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
>>> plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
>>> front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
>>> skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
>>> begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
>>> herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and has 
>>> already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
>>> Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
>>> portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
>>> up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
>>> crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
>>> there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
>>> along the way towards Yakima.  
>>>
>>> We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If you 
>>> didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per capita.  
>>> The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to be. We 
>>> rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
>>> towards Bingen, WA.
>>> After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
>>> Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to 
>>> Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
>>> After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
>>> on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
>>> due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
>>> and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing the 
>>> Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
>>> the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our bikes 
>>> to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
>>> Oakland area. 
>>> We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day 
>>> expect one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. 
>>> Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and took 
>>> BART back to our friends place in Oakland.
>>> After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
>>> August 12th.
>>> The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can 
>>> go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
>>> carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
>>> worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
>>>
>>> -Joseph
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[J Schwartz]

Greetings, 
Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
besides the Sunrace?
Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other options. 
 Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
thank you
JS

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Johnny Alien]

I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>
> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine 
> file tread would be just fine for the road, 
>
> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Here you go: 
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>>
>> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
>> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
>> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
>> tires are worth the $$.
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: "... 
>> I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's 
>> tough out there."
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Garth]

Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone looking 
for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine file 
tread would be just fine for the road, 

https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Here you go: 
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>
> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
> tires are worth the $$.
>
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: "... I 
> would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's 
> tough out there."
>
>

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