[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks Nick for the Foobar2000 recommendation. If I dig into it, it might 
be what I’ve been looking for since I downloaded all my Google Play Music 
tracks and Apple Music Match failed to match most of them. I’m enjoying 
Apple Music now that it’s got lossless, but I still want an offline library 
of my own music.

The Web Archive is great. You can listen to old 78 recordings! When we left 
Portland I sold my turntable and all my records, including a box of rare 
78s to a guy who followed me out of the record store that wasn’t interested 
in them. As the guy scampered away with his $5.00 crate of shellac, my 
friend shook his head and said, “He looks way too happy.” Up until last 
week when I checked the Web Archive, I’d never seen some of those songs 
anywhere, but the Andrew’s Sisters “Avocado Song” is up there free for all. 
I got that guy’s $5 and he probably threw out his back hustling that crate 
down the street.

Philip
Sonoma County, Calif

On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 8:43:45 PM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:

> Most of my music is ripped from physical CDs, of which I must have 
> somewhere around 1000, but I have purchased some recordings via iTunes. 
> Once I have the music files downloaded in iTunes, I back them up a) to my 
> media server, and b) to my phone, and I play them either from the media 
> server - my Marantz amp can stream digital files from the server - or I use 
> the Foobar2000 app on  the phone to play them, either through BT headphones 
> or through the car music system. So even if Apple and iTunes vanish from 
> the face of the earth (one can only hope), I will still be able to play the 
> files.
>
> Nick
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: BOB List

[Dee Dee]

Doh, forgot the list redacts email addresses. Skip said it was fine to post 
his contact, skip.montanaro @gmail

Hopefully that does the trick for everyone.

-Danny

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 7:48:03 PM UTC-6 Dee Dee wrote:

> Email Skip, he can add you to the iBOB group.
>
> skip.mo...@gmail.com
>
> -Danny
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:45 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I can't access or subscribe, either!
>>
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:01:25 PM UTC-5 max.c@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No worries in suggesting the typical fixes. I have tried clearing cache 
>>> in chrome and using Microsoft Edge; same results every time. Additional, in 
>>> Google Groups, iBob is not listed in My groups as I've never been able to 
>>> successfully access the page and therefore can't subscribe. I'm pretty 
>>> stumped! I've tried emailing the admins over there with no avail, though 
>>> I'm sure they have a lot on their plates.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 3:03:29 PM UTC-6 divis...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I last logged into it 45 seconds ago, so it definitely works.

 At the risk of using the tech guy's boilerplate question that's always 
 taken as an insult (*did you turn it off, then turn it back on again?*), 
 have you all tried clearing the cache out of your respective browsers? 
 Cache files can get corrupted. If you keep trying to load a page that the 
 browser has already cached as unavailable, the browser may keep reloading 
 the "NO!" page from its cache, instead of going to the server and loading 
 the data that's there. Check the Preferences menu item in your browser; 
 the 
 "clear cache" option is usually placed there.

 You might also try a different browser, which may not have a screwed-up 
 cache for iBOB.

 If you're logged into Google Groups through a browser, there should be 
 a sidebar on the left. Try clicking "My groups", and "internet-bob" should 
 be in your group list if you're a subscriber. Click on that link instead, 
 and see if you get different results.

 Peter Adler
 Berkeley, CA/USA

 On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-8 max.c@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> This link pops up as unavailable for me as well. I've tried it on 
> three different google accounts several times over the past 4 months with 
> no success

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Re: [RBW] Re: BOB List

[Dee Dee]

Email Skip, he can add you to the iBOB group.

skip.montan...@gmail.com

-Danny

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:45 PM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Yeah, I can't access or subscribe, either!
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:01:25 PM UTC-5 max.c@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> No worries in suggesting the typical fixes. I have tried clearing cache
>> in chrome and using Microsoft Edge; same results every time. Additional, in
>> Google Groups, iBob is not listed in My groups as I've never been able to
>> successfully access the page and therefore can't subscribe. I'm pretty
>> stumped! I've tried emailing the admins over there with no avail, though
>> I'm sure they have a lot on their plates.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 3:03:29 PM UTC-6 divis...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I last logged into it 45 seconds ago, so it definitely works.
>>>
>>> At the risk of using the tech guy's boilerplate question that's always
>>> taken as an insult (*did you turn it off, then turn it back on again?*),
>>> have you all tried clearing the cache out of your respective browsers?
>>> Cache files can get corrupted. If you keep trying to load a page that the
>>> browser has already cached as unavailable, the browser may keep reloading
>>> the "NO!" page from its cache, instead of going to the server and loading
>>> the data that's there. Check the Preferences menu item in your browser; the
>>> "clear cache" option is usually placed there.
>>>
>>> You might also try a different browser, which may not have a screwed-up
>>> cache for iBOB.
>>>
>>> If you're logged into Google Groups through a browser, there should be a
>>> sidebar on the left. Try clicking "My groups", and "internet-bob" should be
>>> in your group list if you're a subscriber. Click on that link instead, and
>>> see if you get different results.
>>>
>>> Peter Adler
>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-8 max.c@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This link pops up as unavailable for me as well. I've tried it on three
 different google accounts several times over the past 4 months with no
 success
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Filson Hooded Zippered Anorak (Large)

[Dave Grossman]

Also its been worn maybe 4-5 times and is in like new shape.

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 7:26:38 PM UTC-6 Dave Grossman wrote:

> I know a lot of folks like Filson on here and also cotton outlayers over 
> their wool so I'm offering up this coat.  I bought it for layering for play 
> in the woods and on my rigs but I don't like the fit and want to move it 
> on.  Its a size large and runs big.  Its made from 4.5 oz cotton, MUSA, is 
> not waxable, and has a lot of pockets.  I'd like to get $125 shipped CONUS 
> for it.  
>
>
> https://www.sportique.com/products/filson-mens-full-zip-hooded-anorak-jacket
>
> Pics:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/4A8mgBesvaLYsWJ56
>

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[RBW] FS: Filson Hooded Zippered Anorak (Large)

[Dave Grossman]

I know a lot of folks like Filson on here and also cotton outlayers over 
their wool so I'm offering up this coat.  I bought it for layering for play 
in the woods and on my rigs but I don't like the fit and want to move it 
on.  Its a size large and runs big.  Its made from 4.5 oz cotton, MUSA, is 
not waxable, and has a lot of pockets.  I'd like to get $125 shipped CONUS 
for it.  

https://www.sportique.com/products/filson-mens-full-zip-hooded-anorak-jacket

Pics:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/4A8mgBesvaLYsWJ56

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[RBW] FS: Filson Zippered Anorak Coat

[Dave Grossman]

I know a lot of folks like Filson on here and also cotton outlayers over 
their wool so I'm offering up this coat.  I bought it for layering for play 
in the woods and on my rigs but I don't like the fit and want to move it 
on.  Its made from 4.5 oz cotton, MUSA, is not waxable, and has a lot of 
pockets.  I'd like to get $125 shipped CONUS for it.  

https://www.sportique.com/products/filson-mens-full-zip-hooded-anorak-jacket

Pics:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/4A8mgBesvaLYsWJ56

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[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[John A. Bennett]

At least as good as Dylan? Wht? Call me confused! 

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/static/uploads/2020/03/Watch-Bob-Dylans-iconic-San-Francisco-press-conference-1965-768x586.jpg

John in Portland, Ore.

On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, not 
> HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell current 
> formats are is something I find confusing.
>
> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
>
> Is there any *secure and reliable source* from which to pay online by PP 
> or CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
>
> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, and 
> have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store on my 
> computer and on a separate hard drive. 
>
> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
>
> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: BOB List

[Eric Marth]

Yeah, I can't access or subscribe, either!

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:01:25 PM UTC-5 max.c@gmail.com 
wrote:

> No worries in suggesting the typical fixes. I have tried clearing cache in 
> chrome and using Microsoft Edge; same results every time. Additional, in 
> Google Groups, iBob is not listed in My groups as I've never been able to 
> successfully access the page and therefore can't subscribe. I'm pretty 
> stumped! I've tried emailing the admins over there with no avail, though 
> I'm sure they have a lot on their plates.
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 3:03:29 PM UTC-6 divis...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I last logged into it 45 seconds ago, so it definitely works.
>>
>> At the risk of using the tech guy's boilerplate question that's always 
>> taken as an insult (*did you turn it off, then turn it back on again?*), 
>> have you all tried clearing the cache out of your respective browsers? 
>> Cache files can get corrupted. If you keep trying to load a page that the 
>> browser has already cached as unavailable, the browser may keep reloading 
>> the "NO!" page from its cache, instead of going to the server and loading 
>> the data that's there. Check the Preferences menu item in your browser; the 
>> "clear cache" option is usually placed there.
>>
>> You might also try a different browser, which may not have a screwed-up 
>> cache for iBOB.
>>
>> If you're logged into Google Groups through a browser, there should be a 
>> sidebar on the left. Try clicking "My groups", and "internet-bob" should be 
>> in your group list if you're a subscriber. Click on that link instead, and 
>> see if you get different results.
>>
>> Peter Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-8 max.c@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This link pops up as unavailable for me as well. I've tried it on three 
>>> different google accounts several times over the past 4 months with no 
>>> success
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: BOB List

[max.c....@gmail.com]

No worries in suggesting the typical fixes. I have tried clearing cache in 
chrome and using Microsoft Edge; same results every time. Additional, in 
Google Groups, iBob is not listed in My groups as I've never been able to 
successfully access the page and therefore can't subscribe. I'm pretty 
stumped! I've tried emailing the admins over there with no avail, though 
I'm sure they have a lot on their plates.

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 3:03:29 PM UTC-6 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> I last logged into it 45 seconds ago, so it definitely works.
>
> At the risk of using the tech guy's boilerplate question that's always 
> taken as an insult (*did you turn it off, then turn it back on again?*), 
> have you all tried clearing the cache out of your respective browsers? 
> Cache files can get corrupted. If you keep trying to load a page that the 
> browser has already cached as unavailable, the browser may keep reloading 
> the "NO!" page from its cache, instead of going to the server and loading 
> the data that's there. Check the Preferences menu item in your browser; the 
> "clear cache" option is usually placed there.
>
> You might also try a different browser, which may not have a screwed-up 
> cache for iBOB.
>
> If you're logged into Google Groups through a browser, there should be a 
> sidebar on the left. Try clicking "My groups", and "internet-bob" should be 
> in your group list if you're a subscriber. Click on that link instead, and 
> see if you get different results.
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-8 max.c@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This link pops up as unavailable for me as well. I've tried it on three 
>> different google accounts several times over the past 4 months with no 
>> success
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 46 Joe Appaloosa Garage Sale

[Joe Bernard]

While they're digging around in the rafters for small frames they'd held 
back as warranty (not really a warranty) replacements, hook me up with a 
50cm Platypus! I can ride a 55, too, but I rode a 50 prototype at the shop 
a couple years ago and it fit fine. Plus I like the 650b wheels. Hey 
Riv! 🙋‍♂️

Joe Bernard

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:00:51 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> I think it will Damien! But act fast. I bought a Garage Sale Clem L set up 
> similarly and James said I bought it in record time. 
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:23:01 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>
>> Agreed Doug - loving the 1x set ups. I've been fervently watching the 
>> Garage Sale page for something exactly like this but in 51. One day my 
>> dreams will come true 
>>
>> On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:33:27 UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> It seems Riv has been building up more 1x indexed bikes lately with off 
>>> road riding in mind! I approve.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:48:45 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Spotted this beauty on the Riv site, if you’re looking for a complete 
 get it quick!

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/46cm-appaloosa-dirt-ready-web-special-2

 Max

>>>

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[RBW] Re: BOB List

[Peter Adler]

I last logged into it 45 seconds ago, so it definitely works.

At the risk of using the tech guy's boilerplate question that's always 
taken as an insult (*did you turn it off, then turn it back on again?*), 
have you all tried clearing the cache out of your respective browsers? 
Cache files can get corrupted. If you keep trying to load a page that the 
browser has already cached as unavailable, the browser may keep reloading 
the "NO!" page from its cache, instead of going to the server and loading 
the data that's there. Check the Preferences menu item in your browser; the 
"clear cache" option is usually placed there.

You might also try a different browser, which may not have a screwed-up 
cache for iBOB.

If you're logged into Google Groups through a browser, there should be a 
sidebar on the left. Try clicking "My groups", and "internet-bob" should be 
in your group list if you're a subscriber. Click on that link instead, and 
see if you get different results.

Peter Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-8 max.c@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This link pops up as unavailable for me as well. I've tried it on three 
> different google accounts several times over the past 4 months with no 
> success

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[RBW] Re: BOB List

[max.c....@gmail.com]

This link pops up as unavailable for me as well. I've tried it on three 
different google accounts several times over the past 4 months with no 
success

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:47:50 PM UTC-6 cycli...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:38:37 AM UTC-8 Jock Dewey wrote:
>
>> Hey, Y'all:
>>
>> I somehow lost my connection to the BOB list. And I can't find the link 
>> to get back on. I have found an old one, but it pops up 'content 
>> unavailable.'
>>
>> Can one of you good folks help me out? Many tanx.
>>
>> BEST / Jock Dewey
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: BOB List

[David Person]

https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:38:37 AM UTC-8 Jock Dewey wrote:

> Hey, Y'all:
>
> I somehow lost my connection to the BOB list. And I can't find the link to 
> get back on. I have found an old one, but it pops up 'content unavailable.'
>
> Can one of you good folks help me out? Many tanx.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
>
>
>

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[RBW] BOB List

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Y'all:

I somehow lost my connection to the BOB list. And I can't find the link to 
get back on. I have found an old one, but it pops up 'content unavailable.'

Can one of you good folks help me out? Many tanx.

BEST / Jock Dewey


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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Eric Marth]

Dang, thanks everyone for your kind replies! I'm so glad to hear you've 
enjoyed the vid, thanks for spending some time. 

David: The clouds passing at the higher altitudes in the mountains is 
lovely! 

Ben: Ha! I was a bit fried when I first got the Appaloosa, I guess it all 
boils away in the production. 

Hugh: The soundtrack is small rapids I recorded nearby on the Rappahannock 
River. I'm glad you liked it :) 

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Very enjoyable video to watch, I particularly enjoyed the babbling stream 
> soundtrack while you worked in your shop.
>
> Hugh 
>
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:09:33 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
>> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
>> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Michael Morrissey]

Save your money for bikes and just listen to the Grateful Dead on 
Relisten.net

Here's a nice one:
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/05/01/me-and-my-uncle?source=335704

If it's free, it's for me.

M.
On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:38:48 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Wait - looks like a good bit of the stuff on the Archive is Stream only, 
> still, an amazing resource.
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Check out Archive.org endless collection of live Dead shows downloadable 
>> in whatever format you need, mostly free.
>>
>> https://archive.org/search.php?query=grateful+dead&page=3
>>
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Both of your albums are available to download on MP3Fiesta.com - 
>>> https://mp3fiesta.com/search/?text=garcia+grisman
>>>
>>> Before you scream scam site, I cannot attest to the copyright legality 
>>> of MP3 Fiesta (they're based in Russia) but I have been using them for 
>>> nearly 2 decades (they pre-dated iTunes) and have never had an issue with 
>>> billing & even the very few times I got a corrupted download they responded 
>>> immediately to rectify.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 11:43:45 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
 Most of my music is ripped from physical CDs, of which I must have 
 somewhere around 1000, but I have purchased some recordings via iTunes. 
 Once I have the music files downloaded in iTunes, I back them up a) to my 
 media server, and b) to my phone, and I play them either from the media 
 server - my Marantz amp can stream digital files from the server - or I 
 use 
 the Foobar2000 app on  the phone to play them, either through BT 
 headphones 
 or through the car music system. So even if Apple and iTunes vanish from 
 the face of the earth (one can only hope), I will still be able to play 
 the 
 files.

 Nick

>>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 46 Joe Appaloosa Garage Sale

[Doug H.]

I think it will Damien! But act fast. I bought a Garage Sale Clem L set up 
similarly and James said I bought it in record time. 
Doug

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:23:01 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:

> Agreed Doug - loving the 1x set ups. I've been fervently watching the 
> Garage Sale page for something exactly like this but in 51. One day my 
> dreams will come true 
>
> On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:33:27 UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> It seems Riv has been building up more 1x indexed bikes lately with off 
>> road riding in mind! I approve.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:48:45 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Spotted this beauty on the Riv site, if you’re looking for a complete 
>>> get it quick!
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/46cm-appaloosa-dirt-ready-web-special-2
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Hugh Smitham]

Very enjoyable video to watch, I particularly enjoyed the babbling stream 
soundtrack while you worked in your shop.

Hugh 

On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:09:33 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
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> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
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[RBW] Re: Autumn Is My Favorite Season

[Bones]

P.S. Sorry if the images are huge! I did scale them down 50% too!
Bones

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:40:42 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> I managed to sneak out for a short ride with my buddy yesterday. I helped 
> him find and build a Clem H earlier this year. He's having a blast on it. I 
> have had way too few opportunities for joy rides lately so this was most 
> welcome.
>
> [image: IMG_6949.JPG][image: IMG_6953.JPG]
>
> Bones
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:
>
>> Some more pictures from last Saturday and Sunday.
>> Sorry about non-Riv bike; at least it's equipped with Sackville panniers.
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Night riding

[Edwin W]

I love riding at night. It really expands on the magic of biking in general.
I am like many others on this thread, loving dyno lighting for active 
lighting at night. Steady lights front and back. 
For passive, I have a Riv ankle band strapped to each side of my basket, 
reflective plastic on each wheel, something like this 
,
 
a yellow reflective triangle hanging off my saddle, and all of my pedals 
have reflective strips. What is nice about my setup is I don't have to grab 
anything special out of the door: it is all on the bike, all the time.

Ride like the wind, under the moon,

Edwin

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:10:49 AM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> This thread reminds me I'm long overdue for a greatly needed head clearing 
> night ride and still have a roll of 3M reflective tape and some reflective 
> dots I've meant to apply.  I keep stalling because I haven't actually 
> cleaned my bike(s) in forever and whenever I do it's because I'm swapping 
> something or another and then wait to be sure I want to keep the build 
> before I further accessorize.
>
> I really enjoy night rides and being fortunate enough to reside in a 
> complex directly across from trail access to a network of multiuse trails 
> through a sprawling park mostly consisting of open meadows means leisurely 
> riding under nothing but the moon and stars with little need for much 
> lighting except for the few sections that run though more heavily wooded 
> areas with a full canopy, Though I've tended to not venture too deep on the 
> longer loops any longer and more or less stay nearby the more open trails 
> which also intersect the local road crossings to allow easier detours and 
> bail-out options since the park closes at dusk.
>
> I have not yet ventured into Dyno or generator hub territory, although I 
> did have prior plans to attempt an LED set up with a vintage Sturmey Archer 
> Dynohub on an abandoned 3 speed project, but that fell through for 
> unrelated reasons I won't get into here.  For lighting I have a couple 
> Princeton Tec Eos lights which have 3 brightness settings and the brightest 
> does a pretty good job lighting up the trail under the darkest canopies in 
> our local trails.  I keep one mounted on the bars (currently on a drop bar 
> single speed) with a second on the helmet for peeking around the curves 
> during the darkest parts.  I've played around a bit with light placement 
> and although I really liked having a light mounted low near the wheel since 
> it really highlights any irregularities or obstacles in the trail ahead, I 
> really didn't care for the shadow from the wheel/tire on one side.  I tried 
> a fork crown mount on my recent build but it was awfully close to the tire 
> and offered neither the same detail of the terrain like low beam near the 
> hub or midfork mounts nor the convenience of the bar mount for easy on/off 
> for when riding in those open air moon lit smooth trail sections where I 
> really enjoy the complete lack of any artificial light and a leisurely 
> pace.  This is all a very personal approach for my particular route and if 
> I were doing more commuting or riding after dark in busier areas and with 
> more car traffic I think I'd already have converted to a generator of some 
> sort.
>
> The Eos 'Bike' models I have are very outdated and likely have long been 
> replaced with newer models but I've no plans to upgrade until they meet 
> their demise and still run on a few AA batteries (I think, should probably 
> double check and refresh with the time change that just occured since I 
> can't recall when I last put fresh batteries) and I really liked the 
> multiple mounts they came with:  bar mounts with rubber shims, helmet mount 
> with velcro strap, plus an elastic headband for regular headlamp usage.  
> If/when I do replace I'll look for something rechargeable, so the 
> consumption of standard batteries is certainly the biggest drawback.
>
> I have a back-up Planet Bike Beamer light mounted similarly to the 
> handlebars of another bike but it comes nowhere near the brightness of the 
> EOS so I rarely use this one alone and try to remember to bring the helmet 
> light to supplement whereas if I take the Eos equipped bike I'm otherwise 
> more confident with just the single bar mounted light.
>
> Now I just need to get back out there one of these nights.
>
> Best,
> Brian Cole
> Lawrence NJ
>
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 8:10:05 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> Please don't ride with one of those blinding, pulsing, rear strobe 
>> lights.  On my ride home last night somebody with one of those decided he 
>> had to pass me and I could barely see anything.  I guess he probably felt 
>> safer but he was definitely putting me at greater risk.  I also try to 
>> remember to put my ankle reflector bands on - the argument I r

[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Ben Mihovk]

Another fantastic video. If anyone hasn't watched Eric's Hillborne 
restoration video, it's fantastic as well. 

The care and thoughtfulness of the builds and details added to the bikes is 
mirrored in the same in the video productions. When I got my Atlantis, I 
went at the assembly like a toddler opening Christmas presents...I'm not 
sure how Eric stays so calm and composed...something I definitely need to 
get better at in all aspects of life!

Seriously great videos Eric! 

Ben in Omaha 

On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 12:09:33 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>

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[RBW] Re: Night riding

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

This thread reminds me I'm long overdue for a greatly needed head clearing 
night ride and still have a roll of 3M reflective tape and some reflective 
dots I've meant to apply.  I keep stalling because I haven't actually 
cleaned my bike(s) in forever and whenever I do it's because I'm swapping 
something or another and then wait to be sure I want to keep the build 
before I further accessorize.

I really enjoy night rides and being fortunate enough to reside in a 
complex directly across from trail access to a network of multiuse trails 
through a sprawling park mostly consisting of open meadows means leisurely 
riding under nothing but the moon and stars with little need for much 
lighting except for the few sections that run though more heavily wooded 
areas with a full canopy, Though I've tended to not venture too deep on the 
longer loops any longer and more or less stay nearby the more open trails 
which also intersect the local road crossings to allow easier detours and 
bail-out options since the park closes at dusk.

I have not yet ventured into Dyno or generator hub territory, although I 
did have prior plans to attempt an LED set up with a vintage Sturmey Archer 
Dynohub on an abandoned 3 speed project, but that fell through for 
unrelated reasons I won't get into here.  For lighting I have a couple 
Princeton Tec Eos lights which have 3 brightness settings and the brightest 
does a pretty good job lighting up the trail under the darkest canopies in 
our local trails.  I keep one mounted on the bars (currently on a drop bar 
single speed) with a second on the helmet for peeking around the curves 
during the darkest parts.  I've played around a bit with light placement 
and although I really liked having a light mounted low near the wheel since 
it really highlights any irregularities or obstacles in the trail ahead, I 
really didn't care for the shadow from the wheel/tire on one side.  I tried 
a fork crown mount on my recent build but it was awfully close to the tire 
and offered neither the same detail of the terrain like low beam near the 
hub or midfork mounts nor the convenience of the bar mount for easy on/off 
for when riding in those open air moon lit smooth trail sections where I 
really enjoy the complete lack of any artificial light and a leisurely 
pace.  This is all a very personal approach for my particular route and if 
I were doing more commuting or riding after dark in busier areas and with 
more car traffic I think I'd already have converted to a generator of some 
sort.

The Eos 'Bike' models I have are very outdated and likely have long been 
replaced with newer models but I've no plans to upgrade until they meet 
their demise and still run on a few AA batteries (I think, should probably 
double check and refresh with the time change that just occured since I 
can't recall when I last put fresh batteries) and I really liked the 
multiple mounts they came with:  bar mounts with rubber shims, helmet mount 
with velcro strap, plus an elastic headband for regular headlamp usage.  
If/when I do replace I'll look for something rechargeable, so the 
consumption of standard batteries is certainly the biggest drawback.

I have a back-up Planet Bike Beamer light mounted similarly to the 
handlebars of another bike but it comes nowhere near the brightness of the 
EOS so I rarely use this one alone and try to remember to bring the helmet 
light to supplement whereas if I take the Eos equipped bike I'm otherwise 
more confident with just the single bar mounted light.

Now I just need to get back out there one of these nights.

Best,
Brian Cole
Lawrence NJ


On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 8:10:05 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:

> Please don't ride with one of those blinding, pulsing, rear strobe 
> lights.  On my ride home last night somebody with one of those decided he 
> had to pass me and I could barely see anything.  I guess he probably felt 
> safer but he was definitely putting me at greater risk.  I also try to 
> remember to put my ankle reflector bands on - the argument I read that made 
> sense to me being that the motion clearly identifies one as a cyclist.  
> Cheap and easy so why not?
>
> Bill
> San Diego
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:57:10 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>> I tried to post this yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have popped up.
>>
>> It's the time of year for riding at night. (??) I'd like to hear other 
>> folks' strategies and recommendations for fun rides at night.
>>
>> My rides at night have mostly been 15-20 mile road rides, fairly fast. 
>> The main problem I've had is relaxing, especially at higher speeds with the 
>> reduced visibility. I've been curious about trail riding but haven't tried 
>> it.
>>
>> thoughts? I'm not buying dynamos right now, but have adequate lights, 
>> backups, vest, etc. I'm mostly looking for ride ideas, things not to do, 
>> things that are more fun than they sound, etc.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Night riding

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

AMEN, brother! Super-bright rear lights have been a pet peeve of mine for 
years. You don’t need a light that bright, and you’re creating a hazard for 
whoever tries to ride behind you. They’re rude and send the message that you’re 
oblivious to, or don’t care about, the safety and comfort of others.

Lee Mitchell, a local legend in the cycling community who spent thousands of 
hours supporting rides as a sag driver, once told me that the single most 
effective piece of nighttime gear is a reflective ankle band. Hands down. The 
motion is attention-getting and immediately sends the message that you are a 
cyclist.

I take that advice to heart and always wear a reflective band. I like the 
“stick-out” kind that Rivendell sells: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar 
 

(Bonus: Right now, the Riv ankle bands are on sale!)

Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com



> On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Bill Schairer  wrote:
> 
> Please don't ride with one of those blinding, pulsing, rear strobe lights.  
> On my ride home last night somebody with one of those decided he had to pass 
> me and I could barely see anything.  I guess he probably felt safer but he 
> was definitely putting me at greater risk.  I also try to remember to put my 
> ankle reflector bands on - the argument I read that made sense to me being 
> that the motion clearly identifies one as a cyclist.  Cheap and easy so why 
> not?
> 
> Bill
> San Diego
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:57:10 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
> I tried to post this yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have popped up.
> 
> It's the time of year for riding at night. (??) I'd like to hear other folks' 
> strategies and recommendations for fun rides at night.
> 
> My rides at night have mostly been 15-20 mile road rides, fairly fast. The 
> main problem I've had is relaxing, especially at higher speeds with the 
> reduced visibility. I've been curious about trail riding but haven't tried it.
> 
> thoughts? I'm not buying dynamos right now, but have adequate lights, 
> backups, vest, etc. I'm mostly looking for ride ideas, things not to do, 
> things that are more fun than they sound, etc.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Eric Floden]

I very much enjoyed this, thanks

For some reason, I want to open a box like that myself...

EricF
Vancouver

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Dee Dee]

Great way to spend 15 minutes w/ a morning cup of tea.  Lovely build/video,
thanks for sharing, Eric!

-Danny

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 9:20 AM Damien  wrote:

> Amazing Eric. Bike is perfect and the video overall was calming for the
> mind and soul
>
> On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:46:23 UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well done Eric.  The time spent taking the time lapse video really
>> shows.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:35:43 AM UTC-8 rickur...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Awesome, awesome, awesome video!
>>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this
 summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly
 along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia!

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 46 Joe Appaloosa Garage Sale

[Damien]

Agreed Doug - loving the 1x set ups. I've been fervently watching the 
Garage Sale page for something exactly like this but in 51. One day my 
dreams will come true 

On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:33:27 UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> It seems Riv has been building up more 1x indexed bikes lately with off 
> road riding in mind! I approve.
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:48:45 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Spotted this beauty on the Riv site, if you’re looking for a complete get 
>> it quick!
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/46cm-appaloosa-dirt-ready-web-special-2
>>
>> Max
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Damien]

Amazing Eric. Bike is perfect and the video overall was calming for the 
mind and soul

On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:46:23 UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well done Eric.  The time spent taking the time lapse video really shows.  
>
> David
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:35:43 AM UTC-8 rickur...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Awesome, awesome, awesome video!
>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
>>> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
>>> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[David Person]

Well done Eric.  The time spent taking the time lapse video really shows.  

David

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>
> Awesome, awesome, awesome video!
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
>> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
>> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[greenteadrinkers]

Wait - looks like a good bit of the stuff on the Archive is Stream only, 
still, an amazing resource.

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Check out Archive.org endless collection of live Dead shows downloadable 
> in whatever format you need, mostly free.
>
> https://archive.org/search.php?query=grateful+dead&page=3
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Both of your albums are available to download on MP3Fiesta.com - 
>> https://mp3fiesta.com/search/?text=garcia+grisman
>>
>> Before you scream scam site, I cannot attest to the copyright legality of 
>> MP3 Fiesta (they're based in Russia) but I have been using them for nearly 
>> 2 decades (they pre-dated iTunes) and have never had an issue with billing 
>> & even the very few times I got a corrupted download they responded 
>> immediately to rectify.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 11:43:45 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> Most of my music is ripped from physical CDs, of which I must have 
>>> somewhere around 1000, but I have purchased some recordings via iTunes. 
>>> Once I have the music files downloaded in iTunes, I back them up a) to my 
>>> media server, and b) to my phone, and I play them either from the media 
>>> server - my Marantz amp can stream digital files from the server - or I use 
>>> the Foobar2000 app on  the phone to play them, either through BT headphones 
>>> or through the car music system. So even if Apple and iTunes vanish from 
>>> the face of the earth (one can only hope), I will still be able to play the 
>>> files.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[greenteadrinkers]

Check out Archive.org endless collection of live Dead shows downloadable in 
whatever format you need, mostly free.

https://archive.org/search.php?query=grateful+dead&page=3

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Both of your albums are available to download on MP3Fiesta.com - 
> https://mp3fiesta.com/search/?text=garcia+grisman
>
> Before you scream scam site, I cannot attest to the copyright legality of 
> MP3 Fiesta (they're based in Russia) but I have been using them for nearly 
> 2 decades (they pre-dated iTunes) and have never had an issue with billing 
> & even the very few times I got a corrupted download they responded 
> immediately to rectify.
>
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 11:43:45 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Most of my music is ripped from physical CDs, of which I must have 
>> somewhere around 1000, but I have purchased some recordings via iTunes. 
>> Once I have the music files downloaded in iTunes, I back them up a) to my 
>> media server, and b) to my phone, and I play them either from the media 
>> server - my Marantz amp can stream digital files from the server - or I use 
>> the Foobar2000 app on  the phone to play them, either through BT headphones 
>> or through the car music system. So even if Apple and iTunes vanish from 
>> the face of the earth (one can only hope), I will still be able to play the 
>> files.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Rick Urbanowski]

Awesome, awesome, awesome video!
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 46 Joe Appaloosa Garage Sale

[Doug H.]

It seems Riv has been building up more 1x indexed bikes lately with off 
road riding in mind! I approve.
Doug

On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:48:45 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Spotted this beauty on the Riv site, if you’re looking for a complete get 
> it quick!
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/46cm-appaloosa-dirt-ready-web-special-2
>
> Max
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[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Philip Barrett]

Both of your albums are available to download on MP3Fiesta.com 
- https://mp3fiesta.com/search/?text=garcia+grisman

Before you scream scam site, I cannot attest to the copyright legality of 
MP3 Fiesta (they're based in Russia) but I have been using them for nearly 
2 decades (they pre-dated iTunes) and have never had an issue with billing 
& even the very few times I got a corrupted download they responded 
immediately to rectify.

On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 11:43:45 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> Most of my music is ripped from physical CDs, of which I must have 
> somewhere around 1000, but I have purchased some recordings via iTunes. 
> Once I have the music files downloaded in iTunes, I back them up a) to my 
> media server, and b) to my phone, and I play them either from the media 
> server - my Marantz amp can stream digital files from the server - or I use 
> the Foobar2000 app on  the phone to play them, either through BT headphones 
> or through the car music system. So even if Apple and iTunes vanish from 
> the face of the earth (one can only hope), I will still be able to play the 
> files.
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Eric Marth]

Wow, thanks everyone! It's great to have feedback from the group, I 
appreciate the kind words and thanks so much for watchin'! 

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:31:05 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:

> Eric, that's a very nice looking Appaloosa, and the area you're riding is 
> a really lovely place!
>
> Takashi
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Night riding

[Bill Schairer]

Please don't ride with one of those blinding, pulsing, rear strobe lights.  
On my ride home last night somebody with one of those decided he had to 
pass me and I could barely see anything.  I guess he probably felt safer 
but he was definitely putting me at greater risk.  I also try to remember 
to put my ankle reflector bands on - the argument I read that made sense to 
me being that the motion clearly identifies one as a cyclist.  Cheap and 
easy so why not?

Bill
San Diego
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:57:10 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

> I tried to post this yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have popped up.
>
> It's the time of year for riding at night. (??) I'd like to hear other 
> folks' strategies and recommendations for fun rides at night.
>
> My rides at night have mostly been 15-20 mile road rides, fairly fast. The 
> main problem I've had is relaxing, especially at higher speeds with the 
> reduced visibility. I've been curious about trail riding but haven't tried 
> it.
>
> thoughts? I'm not buying dynamos right now, but have adequate lights, 
> backups, vest, etc. I'm mostly looking for ride ideas, things not to do, 
> things that are more fun than they sound, etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Takashi]

Eric, that's a very nice looking Appaloosa, and the area you're riding is a 
really lovely place!

Takashi

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