Re: [RBW] Re: Apple Picking By Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

I have a question about that this that's probably obvious to you God's 
Country folk, but I'm just a common city boy and can't picture how it 
works: Do you pay a fee to go in and pick away, or do they charge by the 
bag on the way out? 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 7:07:33 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Steven, wow, an apple better than Honeycrisp?! I’ll definitely look for 
> the Macouns this fall. It’s hard to believe such a thing exists, but I have 
> heard the new Minnesota apple, First Kiss, is top-notch. I’ve never had the 
> pleasure of eating one, but I’ll be keeping my ears to the ground for 
> rumors of them around here. Ryan, well, ONE apple was harmed. The one my 
> son dropped as he unloaded my bags. Joe - go apple-picking and post your 
> photos back here!
>
> It really was such a romantic thing to do; the kind of life I always 
> imagined I would have but never did because I lived in 3 states’ worth of 
> deserts my whole entire post-collegiate life! But now I am finally where I 
> belong - Platypusing around the local farms and hauling produce to my house 
> in the woods.
>
> Leah
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:11:05 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Leah, try and find a Macoun apple late in September or early October.When 
>> I can’t find Macouns I buy Honeycrisp, you are lucky to be picking  great 
>> apples this early. Steve
>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 2:58 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> That looks fun, I'ma need to find me an apple orchard. 🍏🍎
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:13:14 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I just did the most Rivendellian thing ever. I’m certain that when the 
 elves of Rivendell were drawing up their Platypus Plans they were 
 picturing 
 this: picking fresh fruit by bike. It is a cool, sun dappled morning in 
 Michigan, and my green and gold Platypus is being readied to do its good 
 work. There is a nearby farm that I can ride to, and they have announced 
 the opening of Honeycrisp apple picking season this very morning. 

 My favorite apples in all the world are Honeycrisp apples. This variety 
 was created in Minnesota (a state near and dear to my heart) and I’ve 
 never 
 tasted a better apple. The Honeycrisp was bred for taste - a sweet and 
 tart 
 combination that is perfectly balanced. I’ve only had them from the 
 grocery 
 store, but picking them fresh from the orchard should yield an out-of-body 
 experience, I figured. 

 I rode my Overkill Shopping Platypus to the farm. They let me park 
 right by the entrance to the orchard and kept an eye on the bike while I 
 wandered through the apple orchard, filling my paper bag with a half 
 bushel 
 of fragrant, red Honeycrisp apples. I returned to my Platypus and began 
 loading up my Backabike bags. The scene was idyllic with the sunflowers in 
 the backdrop and my bags full of red apples in the foreground. A man 
 stopped to admire my bike. The more he looked, the more he liked. In 3 
 minutes’ worth of questions, he came to the conclusion that he needs this 
 exact bike. I told him there’s a shipment soon coming to Rivendell. I hope 
 hope HOPE one day to run into another Shopping Platypus at the orchard. 

 I have fruit-shopped by Platypus with varying success in the past. I 
 put fresh strawberries from the farmer’s market in my front basket and 
 came 
 home with strawberry jam instead. I got a watermelon wedged in the bag and 
 struggled to free it when I got home. I was not anxious to arrive with 
 bruised apples, or worse, applesauce. But this is where Backabike bags 
 shine - not one apple was damaged in transit. 

 Attached in the next post is a video I made of the experience. Which 
 may or may not work. Instagram will have it, though!
 Leah

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[RBW] WTB: broken in but good condition B17 Imperial (cutout)

[J S]

With silver rails in brown or honey. 

Please PM me

Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Apple Picking By Platypus

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Steven, wow, an apple better than Honeycrisp?! I’ll definitely look for the 
Macouns this fall. It’s hard to believe such a thing exists, but I have 
heard the new Minnesota apple, First Kiss, is top-notch. I’ve never had the 
pleasure of eating one, but I’ll be keeping my ears to the ground for 
rumors of them around here. Ryan, well, ONE apple was harmed. The one my 
son dropped as he unloaded my bags. Joe - go apple-picking and post your 
photos back here!

It really was such a romantic thing to do; the kind of life I always 
imagined I would have but never did because I lived in 3 states’ worth of 
deserts my whole entire post-collegiate life! But now I am finally where I 
belong - Platypusing around the local farms and hauling produce to my house 
in the woods.

Leah

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:11:05 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Leah, try and find a Macoun apple late in September or early October.When 
> I can’t find Macouns I buy Honeycrisp, you are lucky to be picking  great 
> apples this early. Steve
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 2:58 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> That looks fun, I'ma need to find me an apple orchard. 🍏🍎
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:13:14 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I just did the most Rivendellian thing ever. I’m certain that when the 
>>> elves of Rivendell were drawing up their Platypus Plans they were picturing 
>>> this: picking fresh fruit by bike. It is a cool, sun dappled morning in 
>>> Michigan, and my green and gold Platypus is being readied to do its good 
>>> work. There is a nearby farm that I can ride to, and they have announced 
>>> the opening of Honeycrisp apple picking season this very morning. 
>>>
>>> My favorite apples in all the world are Honeycrisp apples. This variety 
>>> was created in Minnesota (a state near and dear to my heart) and I’ve never 
>>> tasted a better apple. The Honeycrisp was bred for taste - a sweet and tart 
>>> combination that is perfectly balanced. I’ve only had them from the grocery 
>>> store, but picking them fresh from the orchard should yield an out-of-body 
>>> experience, I figured. 
>>>
>>> I rode my Overkill Shopping Platypus to the farm. They let me park right 
>>> by the entrance to the orchard and kept an eye on the bike while I wandered 
>>> through the apple orchard, filling my paper bag with a half bushel of 
>>> fragrant, red Honeycrisp apples. I returned to my Platypus and began 
>>> loading up my Backabike bags. The scene was idyllic with the sunflowers in 
>>> the backdrop and my bags full of red apples in the foreground. A man 
>>> stopped to admire my bike. The more he looked, the more he liked. In 3 
>>> minutes’ worth of questions, he came to the conclusion that he needs this 
>>> exact bike. I told him there’s a shipment soon coming to Rivendell. I hope 
>>> hope HOPE one day to run into another Shopping Platypus at the orchard. 
>>>
>>> I have fruit-shopped by Platypus with varying success in the past. I put 
>>> fresh strawberries from the farmer’s market in my front basket and came 
>>> home with strawberry jam instead. I got a watermelon wedged in the bag and 
>>> struggled to free it when I got home. I was not anxious to arrive with 
>>> bruised apples, or worse, applesauce. But this is where Backabike bags 
>>> shine - not one apple was damaged in transit. 
>>>
>>> Attached in the next post is a video I made of the experience. Which may 
>>> or may not work. Instagram will have it, though!
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Doug H.]

I'm already budgeting for this bike. I too wonder which crankset they will 
offer on a complete build but I'm sure it will be good.
Doug

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:34:33 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> *Joe grabs his lovely singlespeed* 
>
> "Joe, where are you going?" 
> .
> OUT FOR A WALK
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 5:52:57 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Joe, all single speeds really have three speeds. Seated, standing and 
>> walking.
>> haha
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:36:02 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe I should consider that...I have a 93 X0-1 38. 38 X 52 
>>> chainrings...just need the DOS freewheel...I'm quite familiar with WI 
>>> freewheels. I have a single 20(I think) on my Peugeot...other thing on the 
>>> X0-1 right now that I DON'T love are the 26 X 1.5 Compass-branded McClure 
>>> Pass tires which attract glass, small stones, etc. like a magnet. I've 
>>> never had worse luck with tires 
>>>
>>> BTW...I live in Winnipeg which is flat (but is windy)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:24:51 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint 
 but, without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
 SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
 Crust, Surly and others.

 FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled 
 XO-1, the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 
 38&35T chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's 
 set 
 up that way for a while.

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at 
> that time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
> unrideable for me. Live and learn! 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Be still my beating heart❤
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
>>> dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
 like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?

 Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
 fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
 generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
 digging 
 that up, Joe.

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't 
> have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a 
> (very 
> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. 
> Really 
> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now 
> a 
> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; 
>> it was 
>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard) 
>>  and I 
>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>
>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what 
>> others they'll offer
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - 
>>> the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). 
>>> It's 
>>> designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
 Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a 
 Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the 
 two. 
 (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
 Clem H 
 is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running 

[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

*Joe grabs his lovely singlespeed* 

"Joe, where are you going?" 
.
OUT FOR A WALK

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 5:52:57 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Joe, all single speeds really have three speeds. Seated, standing and 
> walking.
> haha
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:36:02 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Maybe I should consider that...I have a 93 X0-1 38. 38 X 52 
>> chainrings...just need the DOS freewheel...I'm quite familiar with WI 
>> freewheels. I have a single 20(I think) on my Peugeot...other thing on the 
>> X0-1 right now that I DON'T love are the 26 X 1.5 Compass-branded McClure 
>> Pass tires which attract glass, small stones, etc. like a magnet. I've 
>> never had worse luck with tires 
>>
>> BTW...I live in Winnipeg which is flat (but is windy)
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:24:51 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint 
>>> but, without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
>>> SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
>>> Crust, Surly and others.
>>>
>>> FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled 
>>> XO-1, the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 
>>> 38&35T chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set 
>>> up that way for a while.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
 time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
 unrideable for me. Live and learn! 

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Be still my beating heart❤
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
>> dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
>>> like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>>>
>>> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
>>> fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
>>> generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
>>> digging 
>>> that up, Joe.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't 
 have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
 scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. 
 Really 
 nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now 
 a 
 rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
 article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 

 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno


 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
> was 
> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
> and I 
> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>
> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what 
> others they'll offer
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - 
>> the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). 
>> It's 
>> designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a 
>>> Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the 
>>> two. 
>>> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
>>> Clem H 
>>> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the 
>>> Clem H as 
>>> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a 
>>> multi-geared bike 
>>> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be 
>>> fully 
>>> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>

[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

[nlerner]

In past years before I sold it off, my brevet bike was a Romulus. It saw 
many centuries, a few 200k rides, a 300k ride, and a couple of 24-hour 320k 
flèche team rides. I ran it with 32mm tires and fenders. As others have 
said, comfort at the contact points is key: feet, butt, and hands.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 1:45:53 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 4:52:59 PM UTC-4 Dick Combs wrote:
>
>> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K 
>> rides. Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks
>
>
> I've done 200-600km brevets on various bikes, Rivendell and others. My 
> first 200km was on a Heron road bike, and I just last week set my personal 
> best time for 200km on that same bike. On the first one I had a saddle bag, 
> and that was the last time I did a brevet without a handlebar bag! The most 
> similar Riv models to the Heron road would be Roadeo, Rambouillet, or 
> Roadini. I have done a large amount of brevet riding on a Bleriot, and the 
> "country bike" line descended from that  (A Homer Hilsen, Sam Hillborne) 
> would be similar. 
>
> As others have said, comfort is the priority, but I would be more specific 
> and say that comfort _over many hours_ is the priority. A lot of things, 
> like cushy saddles and cushy shoe soles, are comfortable feeling at the 
> start, but after 8 hours of riding can be the source of much agony. I would 
> put your riding position at the top of the list, and everyone is different 
> in that regard. I am light and flexible and the most comfortable position 
> for me for very long rides is the classic road bike position, back at about 
> 45 degrees, drop bars with the tops almost even with the saddle and a 
> pretty deep drop so my position changes a fair amount as I move around on 
> the bars. One of the important lessons I have learned is that riding too 
> slowly can be a problem, just as trying to ride too fast can be a problem. 
> They are different kinds of problems, to be sure. For me, riding too slowly 
> means 1) I'm in the saddle longer (duh!), and 2) I'm putting more weight on 
> my butt and less on my legs. I have many times been struggling in the last 
> half of a brevet and found that spending some time riding a bit faster has 
> helped me to feel better. Having the ability to change between a broad 
> range of positions is important for me, and all my bikes, despite their 
> differences in tubing and geometry, wind up with very similar rider 
> positioning.
>
> Back to the handlebar bag ... for me that is a very important part of the 
> setup. While I love the way Grant's designs ride and handle, they tend to 
> have fairly high steering flop that is amplified by the weight of a 
> handlebar bag. I don't usually carry a lot of weight there, and  I mostly 
> ride relatively gentle hills,so it's not a deal-breaker. If I was doing a 
> lot of curvy mountain descents, I wouldn't choose a Rivendell with a 
> handlebar bag that had much weight in it. That's one of the reasons I ended 
> up replacing the Bleriot with a bike with less trail. I took the Bleriot 
> (which was my travel bike) down some descents that would have been more fun 
> with more linear steering response. Also, I had my Heron fork pulled for 
> more rake, less trail/flop.
>
> Lastly - tire sizes (carrying over from another recent thread!) - with the 
> wide availability of truly excellent tires in 622 and 584 diameters and a 
> wide range of sizes, it's almost irrelevant what size wheels the bike uses. 
> If your brevets involve rough roads/gravel/dirt, of course you will want 
> pretty wide tires. You probably want decent fenders, too, if there's any 
> chance of it raining. I've done brevets on tires ranging from 26mm to 54mm 
> wide. Wider is generally better, but I've had good and bad rides on all of 
> them. All Rivendells tend to have more tire and fender room than other 
> bikes designed for similar purposes.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Doug H.]

Joe, all single speeds really have three speeds. Seated, standing and 
walking.
haha
Doug

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:36:02 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Maybe I should consider that...I have a 93 X0-1 38. 38 X 52 
> chainrings...just need the DOS freewheel...I'm quite familiar with WI 
> freewheels. I have a single 20(I think) on my Peugeot...other thing on the 
> X0-1 right now that I DON'T love are the 26 X 1.5 Compass-branded McClure 
> Pass tires which attract glass, small stones, etc. like a magnet. I've 
> never had worse luck with tires 
>
> BTW...I live in Winnipeg which is flat (but is windy)
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:24:51 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint but, 
>> without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
>> SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
>> Crust, Surly and others.
>>
>> FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled XO-1, 
>> the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 38&35T 
>> chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set up 
>> that way for a while.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
>>> time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
>>> unrideable for me. Live and learn! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Be still my beating heart❤

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
> dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
>> like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>>
>> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
>> fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
>> generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
>> digging 
>> that up, Joe.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't 
>>> have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
>>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
>>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
>>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
>>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
 Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
 was 
 in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
 and I 
 didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
 scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it

 I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what 
 others they'll offer

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - 
> the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
> designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a 
>> Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
>> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
>> Clem H 
>> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the 
>> Clem H as 
>> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a 
>> multi-geared bike 
>> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be 
>> fully 
>> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Ryan]

Maybe I should consider that...I have a 93 X0-1 38. 38 X 52 
chainrings...just need the DOS freewheel...I'm quite familiar with WI 
freewheels. I have a single 20(I think) on my Peugeot...other thing on the 
X0-1 right now that I DON'T love are the 26 X 1.5 Compass-branded McClure 
Pass tires which attract glass, small stones, etc. like a magnet. I've 
never had worse luck with tires 

BTW...I live in Winnipeg which is flat (but is windy)

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 6:24:51 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint but, 
> without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
> SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
> Crust, Surly and others.
>
> FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled XO-1, 
> the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 38&35T 
> chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set up 
> that way for a while.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
>> time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
>> unrideable for me. Live and learn! 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Be still my beating heart❤
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
 dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
> like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>
> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
> fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
> generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
> digging 
> that up, Joe.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't 
>> have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
>>> was 
>>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
>>> and I 
>>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>>
>>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what 
>>> others they'll offer
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - 
 the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
 designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
 I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.

 Mike M

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
 Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a 
> Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
> Clem H 
> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem 
> H as 
> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared 
> bike 
> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be 
> fully 
> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>
> Marty
>
> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Eric Daume]

Or for a 26" single speeder, the new Handsome XOXO has forward facing
horizontal dropouts, like the Surly Cross Check or BMC Monstercross.

Speaking of, IME this type of dropouts lets the rim track the brake pad as
well as the QB's angled rear track ends, AND make wheel removal with
fenders significantly easier. The only reason not to use these is if you
want really short chainstays... not an issue on the RoadUno. I can't really
see any reason to use the QB style dropouts here.

Eric

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 7:24 PM iamkeith  wrote:

> Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint but,
> without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam,
> SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from
> Crust, Surly and others.
>
> FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled XO-1,
> the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 38&35T
> chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set up
> that way for a while.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that
>> time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally
>> unrideable for me. Live and learn!
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Be still my beating heart❤
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal
 dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork.

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked
> like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>
> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not
> fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a
> generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
> digging
> that up, Joe.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't
>> have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very
>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really
>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a
>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the
>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike!
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed
>>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
>>> was
>>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
>>> and I
>>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite
>>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>>
>>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what
>>> others they'll offer
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs -
 the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's
 designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
 I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.

 Mike M

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke,
 Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a
> Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two.
> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
> Clem H
> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem 
> H as
> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared 
> bike
> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully
> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>
> Marty
>
> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>
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[RBW] Hands on Wheels T-shirts and RandiJo Caps

[Rich Lesnik]

I have Hands on Wheels T-shirts and RandiJo Caps with the Hands on Wheels 
logo embroidered in front, for sale. The T-shirts are $25, the caps are $35 
(linen) and $45 (summer wool). You can see a picture of the T-shirt (in 
yellow with blue print) on my website. I also have shirts in light-blue 
with gold lettering. The caps are blue-gray with gold embroidering. If 
you're interested, send me an email (contact info is on the Hands on Wheels 
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

Btw I HEAR YOU Certain Person Who's a Member Here. I have a friend who 
knows how many times I've bought a singlespeed then sold it cuz I can't 
pedal that kinda gear. I HEAR THE LAUGHTER 🙃

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:32:40 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I hear ya. I'd take a QB or Roaduno over that forkless beater Bstone any 
> day. But it WAS cool. 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:24:51 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint but, 
>> without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
>> SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
>> Crust, Surly and others.
>>
>> FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled XO-1, 
>> the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 38&35T 
>> chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set up 
>> that way for a while.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
>>> time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
>>> unrideable for me. Live and learn! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Be still my beating heart❤

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
> dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
>> like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>>
>> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
>> fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
>> generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
>> digging 
>> that up, Joe.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't 
>>> have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
>>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
>>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
>>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
>>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
 Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
 was 
 in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
 and I 
 didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
 scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it

 I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what 
 others they'll offer

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - 
> the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
> designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a 
>> Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
>> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
>> Clem H 
>> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the 
>> Clem H as 
>> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a 
>> multi-geared bike 
>> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be 
>> fully 
>> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

I hear ya. I'd take a QB or Roaduno over that forkless beater Bstone any 
day. But it WAS cool. 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:24:51 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint but, 
> without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
> SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
> Crust, Surly and others.
>
> FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled XO-1, 
> the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 38&35T 
> chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set up 
> that way for a while.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
>> time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
>> unrideable for me. Live and learn! 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Be still my beating heart❤
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
 dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
> like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>
> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
> fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
> generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
> digging 
> that up, Joe.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't 
>> have one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
>>> was 
>>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
>>> and I 
>>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>>
>>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what 
>>> others they'll offer
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - 
 the Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
 designed to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
 I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.

 Mike M

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
 Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a 
> Clem H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
> Clem H 
> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem 
> H as 
> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared 
> bike 
> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be 
> fully 
> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>
> Marty
>
> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>


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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[iamkeith]

Meh, don't beat yourself up.  It's neat from a historical standpoint but, 
without the correct fork, that value is sorta lost.  A Quickbeam, 
SimpleOne, Frank Jones or this new one all seem nicer.  As do some from 
Crust, Surly and others.

FYI, if someone really likes the idea of a singlespeed, 26"-wheeled XO-1, 
the magic two-speed gear ratio (for not needing is a tensioner) is 38&35T 
chainrings with a 19&16T dos uno freewheel.  I had my daughter's set up 
that way for a while.

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:14:51 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
> time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
> unrideable for me. Live and learn! 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Be still my beating heart❤
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal 
>>> dropouts glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked 
 like? Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?

 Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not 
 fair to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a 
 generous wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for 
 digging 
 that up, Joe.

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't have 
> one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it 
>> was 
>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  
>> and I 
>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>
>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
>> they'll offer
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
>>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
>>> designed 
>>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
 Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem 
 H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
 (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my 
 Clem H 
 is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem 
 H as 
 a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared 
 bike 
 than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully 
 lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...

 Marty

 [image: Clemuno .jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah I messed up selling that one. I live in some hills now but at that 
time I was at the top of a VERY steep one, the bike was literally 
unrideable for me. Live and learn! 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Be still my beating heart❤
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal dropouts 
>> glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked like? 
>>> Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>>>
>>> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not fair 
>>> to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a generous 
>>> wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for digging that up, 
>>> Joe.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't have 
 one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
 scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
 nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
 rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
 article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 

 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno


 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was 
> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and 
> I 
> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>
> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
> they'll offer
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
>> designed 
>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem 
>>> H singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
>>> (disclaiming the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem 
>>> H 
>>> is ghosted behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H 
>>> as 
>>> a uno, and would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared 
>>> bike 
>>> than go for a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully 
>>> lugged, I could be swooned into one - er, un...
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Ryan]

Be still my beating heart❤

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:49:55 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal dropouts 
> glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked like? 
>> Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>>
>> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not fair 
>> to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a generous 
>> wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for digging that up, 
>> Joe.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't have 
>>> one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
>>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
>>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
>>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
>>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
 Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was 
 in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and 
 I 
 didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
 scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it

 I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
 they'll offer

 On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's 
> designed 
> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
>> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
>> (disclaiming 
>> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
>> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, 
>> and 
>> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go 
>> for 
>> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I 
>> could 
>> be swooned into one - er, un...
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

Ryan, it looked (and was sized like) a 52cm XO-1 with horizontal dropouts 
glommed on, I suspect it used that fork. 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked like? 
> Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?
>
> Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not fair 
> to judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a generous 
> wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for digging that up, 
> Joe.
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't have 
>> one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
>> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
>> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
>> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
>> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was 
>>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I 
>>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>>
>>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
>>> they'll offer
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
 Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed 
 to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
 I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.

 Mike M

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
 Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. 
> (disclaiming 
> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, 
> and 
> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go 
> for 
> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I 
> could 
> be swooned into one - er, un...
>
> Marty
>
> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>


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[RBW] Re: Apple Picking By Platypus

[George Schick]

Thanks for posting this report about apple picking and the attached 
photos.  They bring back many, many memories of traveling over to the 
orchards in SW Michigan to pick apples - especially those honey crisps.  
Even better having it transported them via a good long wheel base bike 
equipped with pannier bags.  Thanks again for showing.


On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 12:13:14 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I just did the most Rivendellian thing ever. I’m certain that when the 
> elves of Rivendell were drawing up their Platypus Plans they were picturing 
> this: picking fresh fruit by bike. It is a cool, sun dappled morning in 
> Michigan, and my green and gold Platypus is being readied to do its good 
> work. There is a nearby farm that I can ride to, and they have announced 
> the opening of Honeycrisp apple picking season this very morning. 
>
> My favorite apples in all the world are Honeycrisp apples. This variety 
> was created in Minnesota (a state near and dear to my heart) and I’ve never 
> tasted a better apple. The Honeycrisp was bred for taste - a sweet and tart 
> combination that is perfectly balanced. I’ve only had them from the grocery 
> store, but picking them fresh from the orchard should yield an out-of-body 
> experience, I figured. 
>
> I rode my Overkill Shopping Platypus to the farm. They let me park right 
> by the entrance to the orchard and kept an eye on the bike while I wandered 
> through the apple orchard, filling my paper bag with a half bushel of 
> fragrant, red Honeycrisp apples. I returned to my Platypus and began 
> loading up my Backabike bags. The scene was idyllic with the sunflowers in 
> the backdrop and my bags full of red apples in the foreground. A man 
> stopped to admire my bike. The more he looked, the more he liked. In 3 
> minutes’ worth of questions, he came to the conclusion that he needs this 
> exact bike. I told him there’s a shipment soon coming to Rivendell. I hope 
> hope HOPE one day to run into another Shopping Platypus at the orchard. 
>
> I have fruit-shopped by Platypus with varying success in the past. I put 
> fresh strawberries from the farmer’s market in my front basket and came 
> home with strawberry jam instead. I got a watermelon wedged in the bag and 
> struggled to free it when I got home. I was not anxious to arrive with 
> bruised apples, or worse, applesauce. But this is where Backabike bags 
> shine - not one apple was damaged in transit. 
>
> Attached in the next post is a video I made of the experience. Which may 
> or may not work. Instagram will have it, though!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Ryan]

Oh yeah I remember that now...wonder what the original fork looked like? 
Maybe a Tom Ritchey bi-plane one?

Anyway , I'm sure the new RoadUno will be a fun bike...probably not fair to 
judge it basis the prototype version. We do know it'll have a generous 
wheelbase and tons of clearance for big tires.  Thanks for digging that up, 
Joe.

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't have 
> one. This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very 
> scratched) frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really 
> nice build I put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a 
> rare fillet-weld Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the 
> article, then he had it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno
>
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was 
>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I 
>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>
>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
>> they'll offer
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
>>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed 
>>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
 Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
 singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming 
 the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
 behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and 
 would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go 
 for 
 a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could 
 be swooned into one - er, un...

 Marty

 [image: Clemuno .jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

Here's that UNO though it's no help with the headbadge, it didn't have one. 
This is one I really should have kept, I found it as a (very scratched) 
frame only and added the generic black unicrown fork. Really nice build I 
put a lot of work into, including what apparently is now a rare fillet-weld 
Bullmoose. I sold it to the Brandon mentioned in the article, then he had 
it at on Craigslist for ages. Cool bike! 

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/bridgestone-uno


On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:55:19 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was 
> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I 
> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>
> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
> they'll offer
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed 
>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
>> PA wrote:
>>
>>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
>>> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming 
>>> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
>>> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and 
>>> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go for 
>>> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could 
>>> be swooned into one - er, un...
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Apple Picking By Platypus

[Steven Sweedler]

Leah, try and find a Macoun apple late in September or early October.When I
can’t find Macouns I buy Honeycrisp, you are lucky to be picking  great
apples this early. Steve
Plymouth, New Hampshire

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 2:58 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> That looks fun, I'ma need to find me an apple orchard. 🍏🍎
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:13:14 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> I just did the most Rivendellian thing ever. I’m certain that when the
>> elves of Rivendell were drawing up their Platypus Plans they were picturing
>> this: picking fresh fruit by bike. It is a cool, sun dappled morning in
>> Michigan, and my green and gold Platypus is being readied to do its good
>> work. There is a nearby farm that I can ride to, and they have announced
>> the opening of Honeycrisp apple picking season this very morning.
>>
>> My favorite apples in all the world are Honeycrisp apples. This variety
>> was created in Minnesota (a state near and dear to my heart) and I’ve never
>> tasted a better apple. The Honeycrisp was bred for taste - a sweet and tart
>> combination that is perfectly balanced. I’ve only had them from the grocery
>> store, but picking them fresh from the orchard should yield an out-of-body
>> experience, I figured.
>>
>> I rode my Overkill Shopping Platypus to the farm. They let me park right
>> by the entrance to the orchard and kept an eye on the bike while I wandered
>> through the apple orchard, filling my paper bag with a half bushel of
>> fragrant, red Honeycrisp apples. I returned to my Platypus and began
>> loading up my Backabike bags. The scene was idyllic with the sunflowers in
>> the backdrop and my bags full of red apples in the foreground. A man
>> stopped to admire my bike. The more he looked, the more he liked. In 3
>> minutes’ worth of questions, he came to the conclusion that he needs this
>> exact bike. I told him there’s a shipment soon coming to Rivendell. I hope
>> hope HOPE one day to run into another Shopping Platypus at the orchard.
>>
>> I have fruit-shopped by Platypus with varying success in the past. I put
>> fresh strawberries from the farmer’s market in my front basket and came
>> home with strawberry jam instead. I got a watermelon wedged in the bag and
>> struggled to free it when I got home. I was not anxious to arrive with
>> bruised apples, or worse, applesauce. But this is where Backabike bags
>> shine - not one apple was damaged in transit.
>>
>> Attached in the next post is a video I made of the experience. Which may
>> or may not work. Instagram will have it, though!
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: Apple Picking By Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

That looks fun, I'ma need to find me an apple orchard. 🍏🍎

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:13:14 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I just did the most Rivendellian thing ever. I’m certain that when the 
> elves of Rivendell were drawing up their Platypus Plans they were picturing 
> this: picking fresh fruit by bike. It is a cool, sun dappled morning in 
> Michigan, and my green and gold Platypus is being readied to do its good 
> work. There is a nearby farm that I can ride to, and they have announced 
> the opening of Honeycrisp apple picking season this very morning. 
>
> My favorite apples in all the world are Honeycrisp apples. This variety 
> was created in Minnesota (a state near and dear to my heart) and I’ve never 
> tasted a better apple. The Honeycrisp was bred for taste - a sweet and tart 
> combination that is perfectly balanced. I’ve only had them from the grocery 
> store, but picking them fresh from the orchard should yield an out-of-body 
> experience, I figured. 
>
> I rode my Overkill Shopping Platypus to the farm. They let me park right 
> by the entrance to the orchard and kept an eye on the bike while I wandered 
> through the apple orchard, filling my paper bag with a half bushel of 
> fragrant, red Honeycrisp apples. I returned to my Platypus and began 
> loading up my Backabike bags. The scene was idyllic with the sunflowers in 
> the backdrop and my bags full of red apples in the foreground. A man 
> stopped to admire my bike. The more he looked, the more he liked. In 3 
> minutes’ worth of questions, he came to the conclusion that he needs this 
> exact bike. I told him there’s a shipment soon coming to Rivendell. I hope 
> hope HOPE one day to run into another Shopping Platypus at the orchard. 
>
> I have fruit-shopped by Platypus with varying success in the past. I put 
> fresh strawberries from the farmer’s market in my front basket and came 
> home with strawberry jam instead. I got a watermelon wedged in the bag and 
> struggled to free it when I got home. I was not anxious to arrive with 
> bruised apples, or worse, applesauce. But this is where Backabike bags 
> shine - not one apple was damaged in transit. 
>
> Attached in the next post is a video I made of the experience. Which may 
> or may not work. Instagram will have it, though!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Brendon! 

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:05:07 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Oh man, I almost missed this amazing ride report between all the FS posts.
> Such a great write up! Thank you again Eric for all your thoughtful 
> contributions to this community.
>

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Re: [RBW] Apple Picking By Platypus

[Ryan]

No apples were harmed making this movie😊 Nice!

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 12:32:13 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> The watermelon hauling did not go as well.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

[Ted Durant]

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 4:52:59 PM UTC-4 Dick Combs wrote:

> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
> Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks


I've done 200-600km brevets on various bikes, Rivendell and others. My 
first 200km was on a Heron road bike, and I just last week set my personal 
best time for 200km on that same bike. On the first one I had a saddle bag, 
and that was the last time I did a brevet without a handlebar bag! The most 
similar Riv models to the Heron road would be Roadeo, Rambouillet, or 
Roadini. I have done a large amount of brevet riding on a Bleriot, and the 
"country bike" line descended from that  (A Homer Hilsen, Sam Hillborne) 
would be similar. 

As others have said, comfort is the priority, but I would be more specific 
and say that comfort _over many hours_ is the priority. A lot of things, 
like cushy saddles and cushy shoe soles, are comfortable feeling at the 
start, but after 8 hours of riding can be the source of much agony. I would 
put your riding position at the top of the list, and everyone is different 
in that regard. I am light and flexible and the most comfortable position 
for me for very long rides is the classic road bike position, back at about 
45 degrees, drop bars with the tops almost even with the saddle and a 
pretty deep drop so my position changes a fair amount as I move around on 
the bars. One of the important lessons I have learned is that riding too 
slowly can be a problem, just as trying to ride too fast can be a problem. 
They are different kinds of problems, to be sure. For me, riding too slowly 
means 1) I'm in the saddle longer (duh!), and 2) I'm putting more weight on 
my butt and less on my legs. I have many times been struggling in the last 
half of a brevet and found that spending some time riding a bit faster has 
helped me to feel better. Having the ability to change between a broad 
range of positions is important for me, and all my bikes, despite their 
differences in tubing and geometry, wind up with very similar rider 
positioning.

Back to the handlebar bag ... for me that is a very important part of the 
setup. While I love the way Grant's designs ride and handle, they tend to 
have fairly high steering flop that is amplified by the weight of a 
handlebar bag. I don't usually carry a lot of weight there, and  I mostly 
ride relatively gentle hills,so it's not a deal-breaker. If I was doing a 
lot of curvy mountain descents, I wouldn't choose a Rivendell with a 
handlebar bag that had much weight in it. That's one of the reasons I ended 
up replacing the Bleriot with a bike with less trail. I took the Bleriot 
(which was my travel bike) down some descents that would have been more fun 
with more linear steering response. Also, I had my Heron fork pulled for 
more rake, less trail/flop.

Lastly - tire sizes (carrying over from another recent thread!) - with the 
wide availability of truly excellent tires in 622 and 584 diameters and a 
wide range of sizes, it's almost irrelevant what size wheels the bike uses. 
If your brevets involve rough roads/gravel/dirt, of course you will want 
pretty wide tires. You probably want decent fenders, too, if there's any 
chance of it raining. I've done brevets on tires ranging from 26mm to 54mm 
wide. Wider is generally better, but I've had good and bad rides on all of 
them. All Rivendells tend to have more tire and fender room than other 
bikes designed for similar purposes.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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[RBW] Apple Picking By Platypus

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I just did the most Rivendellian thing ever. I’m certain that when the 
elves of Rivendell were drawing up their Platypus Plans they were picturing 
this: picking fresh fruit by bike. It is a cool, sun dappled morning in 
Michigan, and my green and gold Platypus is being readied to do its good 
work. There is a nearby farm that I can ride to, and they have announced 
the opening of Honeycrisp apple picking season this very morning. 

My favorite apples in all the world are Honeycrisp apples. This variety was 
created in Minnesota (a state near and dear to my heart) and I’ve never 
tasted a better apple. The Honeycrisp was bred for taste - a sweet and tart 
combination that is perfectly balanced. I’ve only had them from the grocery 
store, but picking them fresh from the orchard should yield an out-of-body 
experience, I figured. 

I rode my Overkill Shopping Platypus to the farm. They let me park right by 
the entrance to the orchard and kept an eye on the bike while I wandered 
through the apple orchard, filling my paper bag with a half bushel of 
fragrant, red Honeycrisp apples. I returned to my Platypus and began 
loading up my Backabike bags. The scene was idyllic with the sunflowers in 
the backdrop and my bags full of red apples in the foreground. A man 
stopped to admire my bike. The more he looked, the more he liked. In 3 
minutes’ worth of questions, he came to the conclusion that he needs this 
exact bike. I told him there’s a shipment soon coming to Rivendell. I hope 
hope HOPE one day to run into another Shopping Platypus at the orchard. 

I have fruit-shopped by Platypus with varying success in the past. I put 
fresh strawberries from the farmer’s market in my front basket and came 
home with strawberry jam instead. I got a watermelon wedged in the bag and 
struggled to free it when I got home. I was not anxious to arrive with 
bruised apples, or worse, applesauce. But this is where Backabike bags 
shine - not one apple was damaged in transit. 

Attached in the next post is a video I made of the experience. Which may or 
may not work. Instagram will have it, though!
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Ryan]

Well...if I  was going to fantasize...and I if won the lottery...given that 
I like the ride of my PX-10 so much , my dream SS would have Roadeo geo and 
tubing and built by Mark Nobilette, maybe in that spiffy black and cream 
also pictured in the latest email. Just sayin...

I do want to see the final version of the Roaduno , though. I am curious. 


On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 11:02:49 AM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Yeah, i take it that Bridgestone was an inspiration. I think it was called 
> the Uno? There is a picture of a prototype somewhere in the bluhg i think. 
> I like that one a little more. Honestly not sure what i don't love about 
> the look of this one but the Simpleone logos don't do it for me either. 
> Maybe I'm just partial to the Quickbeam aesthetic.
>
> Regardless, it looks like it will be a fun bike. Just maybe not the right 
> one for me 
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 10:55 AM Ryan  wrote:
>
>> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed 
>> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was 
>> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I 
>> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite 
>> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>>
>> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
>> they'll offer
>>
>> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
>>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed 
>>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
 Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
 singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming 
 the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
 behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and 
 would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go 
 for 
 a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could 
 be swooned into one - er, un...

 Marty

 [image: Clemuno .jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Alexander Chalmers]

Yeah, i take it that Bridgestone was an inspiration. I think it was called
the Uno? There is a picture of a prototype somewhere in the bluhg i think.
I like that one a little more. Honestly not sure what i don't love about
the look of this one but the Simpleone logos don't do it for me either.
Maybe I'm just partial to the Quickbeam aesthetic.

Regardless, it looks like it will be a fun bike. Just maybe not the right
one for me

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 10:55 AM Ryan  wrote:

> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed
> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was
> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I
> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite
> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>
> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others
> they'll offer
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the
>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed
>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown
>> PA wrote:
>>
>>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H
>>> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming
>>> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted
>>> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and
>>> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go for
>>> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could
>>> be swooned into one - er, un...
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Ryan]

The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed Bridgestone 
USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was in one of the 
Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I didn't find 
it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite scanned all the 
gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it

I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others 
they'll offer

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed 
> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
> PA wrote:
>
>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
>> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming 
>> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
>> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and 
>> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go for 
>> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could 
>> be swooned into one - er, un...
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[velomann]

Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the 
Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed 
to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.

Mike M

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H 
> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming 
> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted 
> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and 
> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go for 
> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could 
> be swooned into one - er, un...
>
> Marty
>
> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Alexander Chalmers]

I was pleasantly surprised that the final will be fully lugged. I like the 
sound of the cream headtube as well, and a singlespeed that can run 55mm 
tires sounds awesome.

That said, I find myself getting hung up on the name/decals. I just think 
Roaduno sounds a little silly and the headbadge doesn't do anything for me. 
Pretty bad reasons to not get one, but might be enough for me in this case. 
Anyone else in the same boat? In my own defense, I am hoping to get a 
Quickbeam soon and I think I will prefer the shorter wheelbase on that for 
the riding I do

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> This is turning out better than I'd hoped.  Seeing as how I regret getting 
> tid of my Clem H... AND have a sets of single-speed (and 3-speed) wheels 
> left from my Quickbeam, I don’t think there's a scenario where I don't at 
> least try to get one of these. Starting to save pennies now.
>
> Some nerd observations and questions.  (Hopefully some of you locals can 
> check these out in person, and get some detail):
>
> -  Do we know if these will be 120 OLN rear spacing?
>
> - Why in the world would they not just use the Frank Jones Sr. track ends? 
> Wonder what "found' [an existing product] means.  Has anybody else ever 
> done the sloped dropout thing that allows the brakes to work regardless of 
> wheel position, the way Riv does?)
>
> - Which fork crown do they usually use when there's a target of 55mm  
> tires?  I'm guessing it will not be the Hunqapillar / Clem crown, but that 
> would be great.  Maybe it'll  actually be the Appaloosa fork. (I only 
> wonder because I'm a detail dork and because my favorite-ever tire - the 
> super moto - is a little bigger than 55mm.)  Still, if limited to 55, I'm 
> sure there'll be good options)
>
> - if this one is a 54, and Will says there's a 61 too,  then it sounds 
> like they ARE in fact the same size increments as the Roadini, which means 
> there's a 57 too.  That's the best news of all, for me!   The reason I got 
> rid of my 60 clem was that it was a smidge too big in terms of standover 
> height.  57 should be spot-on, especially if they follow the longer top 
> tube path of the clem L evolution.
>
> Gonna be a long couple of years..
>
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[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I would say a Homer, to give a direct answer.   As the others pointed out, 
almost any bike would work.

A fellow in NJ Randonnuers has been using a AHH-MUSA for over 10 years 
(56cm I think).

The one AHH-MIT I rode felt very light, lighter than I thought it would.  
 I was surprised.

You can fit wider tires and fenders compared to Riv models earlier then the 
AHH.

>From everything that's been written on the AHH, it appears to have the 
lightest tubeset of any Riv model.   Just watch how much weight you carry 
in the front since the wheel flop is high (true for any RBW model).   

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
> Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[iamkeith]

This is turning out better than I'd hoped.  Seeing as how I regret getting 
tid of my Clem H... AND have a sets of single-speed (and 3-speed) wheels 
left from my Quickbeam, I don’t think there's a scenario where I don't at 
least try to get one of these. Starting to save pennies now.

Some nerd observations and questions.  (Hopefully some of you locals can 
check these out in person, and get some detail):

-  Do we know if these will be 120 OLN rear spacing?

- Why in the world would they not just use the Frank Jones Sr. track ends? 
Wonder what "found' [an existing product] means.  Has anybody else ever 
done the sloped dropout thing that allows the brakes to work regardless of 
wheel position, the way Riv does?)

- Which fork crown do they usually use when there's a target of 55mm  
tires?  I'm guessing it will not be the Hunqapillar / Clem crown, but that 
would be great.  Maybe it'll  actually be the Appaloosa fork. (I only 
wonder because I'm a detail dork and because my favorite-ever tire - the 
super moto - is a little bigger than 55mm.)  Still, if limited to 55, I'm 
sure there'll be good options)

- if this one is a 54, and Will says there's a 61 too,  then it sounds like 
they ARE in fact the same size increments as the Roadini, which means 
there's a 57 too.  That's the best news of all, for me!   The reason I got 
rid of my 60 clem was that it was a smidge too big in terms of standover 
height.  57 should be spot-on, especially if they follow the longer top 
tube path of the clem L evolution.

Gonna be a long couple of years..

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Bones]

I always thought a Homer-ish bike with big fat tires would be awesome. It 
sounds like that’s what this is. And it’s a single speed too, which is 
exactly what I would want! In fact I even was considering a custom at some 
point, and it looked a lot like this in my head. I picture it with some 
quills/antelopes and Ron’s ortho bars. Cant wait.

Bones 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:10:05 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> I hear you Joe! I love the simplicity and silence of single-speeds too. I 
> confess that my old SS PX-10 has been seeing the most riding the last few 
> years. Maybe it's my silent resistance to the proliferation of e-bikes I've 
> been seeing given the ruinous gas prices...which, don't get me wrong, are a 
> good idea if they take some cars off the road! even though aesthetically 
> they  do nothing for me. 
>
> But the final version of the Roaduno could tick some boxes...
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 1:34:29 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have an irrational love (ok most of my love experiences are irrational, 
>> but I digress) of the look and simplicity of singlespeeds that translates 
>> to hardly any riding I do. I want this bike despite knowing I'd have to 
>> walk it up the hill in front of my house just to start a ride! 
>>
>> Joe "pfft, it doesn't look that steep" Bernard 
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 9:46:47 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Roaduno is going to have much lighter tubing than the Clem. 
>>> So not going to be as good to load up or off road.
>>> I for one welcome a road bike I can put Antelope Hills on, however. So I 
>>> am looking forward to it.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Ryan]

I hear you Joe! I love the simplicity and silence of single-speeds too. I 
confess that my old SS PX-10 has been seeing the most riding the last few 
years. Maybe it's my silent resistance to the proliferation of e-bikes I've 
been seeing given the ruinous gas prices...which, don't get me wrong, are a 
good idea if they take some cars off the road! even though aesthetically 
they  do nothing for me. 

But the final version of the Roaduno could tick some boxes...

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 1:34:29 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have an irrational love (ok most of my love experiences are irrational, 
> but I digress) of the look and simplicity of singlespeeds that translates 
> to hardly any riding I do. I want this bike despite knowing I'd have to 
> walk it up the hill in front of my house just to start a ride! 
>
> Joe "pfft, it doesn't look that steep" Bernard 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 9:46:47 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I think the Roaduno is going to have much lighter tubing than the Clem. 
>> So not going to be as good to load up or off road.
>> I for one welcome a road bike I can put Antelope Hills on, however. So I 
>> am looking forward to it.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

[ascpgh]

+1 on responses prioritizing comfort.


I haven't done any official randonneuring but I have ridden across the 
country with a small group on a light credit card touring ride and every 
summer I try to ride some self-inflicted centuries. 

When I was first approached about the cross country ride I realistically 
assessed my RB-1 as not up to it. I was sore, stiff and not very functional 
after anything more than four hours of riding it. I spoke to Grant about 
possibly a Riv custom and he told me about the upcoming Rambouillet and I 
bought one. Predictable handling, responsive to inputs and comfortable for 
long (8-12 hours) days of riding. Really great. 

My only addition is to consider what your load situation would be. I found 
that as I took on a bit more gear and anticipated more unpaved than I did 
for the mostly state road trek coast to coast the envelope of any bike can 
be reached. My Ram with fenders maxes out with 32mm tires and being 
moderate to high trail it doesn't tolerate loading in the front well and 
doesn't have braze ons to encourage such. This means if I head out for a 
few days my load in my Carradice Nelson Longflap saddlebag with a Bagman 
support adds to the already rear heavy distribution of just me on the bike 
and requires keeping the inflation of the rear tire to be higher, limiting 
the comfort of the 32s over time. A model with clearance for more tire 
width would be the next consideration 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh




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> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K rides. 
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[brendonoid]

I agree. However neither the Roadini nor the Charlie Gallop can fit 55mm 
tyres. So I'll take the weight penalty and get almost the perfect road 
bike! Maybe? 
These are probably at least 2 years away and I might be broke or dead by 
then. :P

On Saturday, 20 August 2022 at 16:43:17 UTC+8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes but they're heavy which is how you get to Grant/Riv's position, "Why 
> not just ride a derailer bike if you need gears?" At which point I look at 
> the light derailer Riv I have now and say, "Good point Grant/Riv!" 
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 12:44:48 AM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> An internal geared hub would give you the slick aesthetic of that single 
>> speed without all the walking and expensive knee replacements.
>> That is what I am thinking I'd do with this frame.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Joe Bernard]

Yes but they're heavy which is how you get to Grant/Riv's position, "Why 
not just ride a derailer bike if you need gears?" At which point I look at 
the light derailer Riv I have now and say, "Good point Grant/Riv!" 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 12:44:48 AM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> An internal geared hub would give you the slick aesthetic of that single 
> speed without all the walking and expensive knee replacements.
> That is what I am thinking I'd do with this frame.
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[brendonoid]

An internal geared hub would give you the slick aesthetic of that single 
speed without all the walking and expensive knee replacements.
That is what I am thinking I'd do with this frame.

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