Re: [RBW] Doldrums

[Eric Daume]

With wandrer, even worse than cul-de-sacs for me are apartment complexes.
Tedious architecture and lots of dead ends.

I had one ride where I spent about 1.5 hours riding (in the rain!) through
several apartment complexes, trying to finally close out a section, only to
find my phone had stopped recording a mile into the ride. Doh!

Eric

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:59 PM Robert Tilley  wrote:

> I recently signed up with Wandrer to force me to take some different
> routes. I've worked from home for the last 4 years or so and have no free
> time so all of my rides tend to be errands and also tend to be along the
> same routes.
>
> It's been fun so far but I have come to really hate the inventor of the
> cul-de-sac. My area is full of them and it's a real pain to "bag" them all.
> One short road section here has eight cul-de-sacs sprouting off of it. I've
> gotten a lot of odd looks in the week that I've been trying to clear them
> all. I keep thinking I'm gonna get beat up since I likely look like some
> kind of weirdo riding into and out of all of these small neighborhoods.
> I've started using my Brompton so I look more like a harmless creep than a
> creepy creep. I'm waiting for someone to post about "some weird old guy
> riding through our neighborhoods" on the Nextdoor app.
>
> I make double sure that my watch is recording my ride before I take off. I
> can't even imagine going through some of those routes only to find I didn't
> hit "record". My wailing would be heard for miles and would be the source
> of much consternation I am certain.
>
> I have my area about clear so I'm now heading out into the unknown...
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 4:22 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Eric described and showed some of the fun one can derive from
>> wandrer.earth.
>>
>> I concur wholeheartedly that wandrer.earth can add another layer of fun
>> to cycling for some people.  I tend towards the compulsive, and so when I
>> can planfully do something, I am generally more likely to follow through
>> with that something, or at least stick with that pursuit for a longer
>> period.  In short, wandrer.earth got me through the pandemic, because it
>> added a layer of fun for rides that were all solo, and were mostly not far
>> from my front door.  I got pretty hardcore with it, and am very proud of my
>> footprint in the SF Bay Area (Contra Costa, Alameda and Marin Counties
>> mostly).  My job has me travel to Michigan almost monthly, and my presence
>> in Wayne County is preserved on wandrer, and that helped shape many of the
>> hours that I would otherwise have spent watching TV in a hotel room.  I
>> just returned from a three week vacation in Europe and one of my digital
>> souvenirs is a solid footprint in Stockholm, Sweden, Copenhagen Denmark,
>> and Amsterdam.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 3:14:33 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Near Dublin, OH, a suburb of Columbus. According to wandrer.earth,
>>> Dublin has just over 400 miles of bike paths and accessible roads (it
>>> doesn't count interstates, etc). It took me from November through July to
>>> hit my target for riding these roads (blue is ridden, red is unridden):
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> It's a fun app. I found I was riding longer distances to get out to new
>>> roads, so I ended up in better than usual shape for mid summer.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:56 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>>>
 Where in Ohio?

 On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 2:44 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> Come ride in the Midwest or South, and then you’ll appreciate your
> “hot and sticky” Bellingham summers :)
>
> I like to have made up goals for my riding. For a while, it was
> reading and returning books to my local system of little free libraries.
> This year, I used wanderer.earth to target riding all of my local town
> roads and paths. That was a good experience.
>
>
> Eric
> Now in Ohio, formerly of Seattle
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022, Jay Lonner  wrote:
>
>> Over the years my cycling has increasingly tended toward
>> commuting/utility. Bike-centered vacations/tours remain on the menu, and
>> are still very enjoyable to me, but the day-in, day-out feels like a 
>> chore.
>> Part of this is seasonal — I have an easier time dealing with cool, wet
>> conditions than hot, sticky weather. So maybe this problem will solve
>> itself with the autumn rains imminent. But I’m wondering whether others
>> ever get a case of cycling burnout, and maybe have some tips to work
>> through it.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us the bike built up?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some build photos too!DougOn Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.EricOn Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!LOn Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get my bike. It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter is coming. LeahOn Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:From this week's email:Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.EricOn Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote: I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of adding a dropper post :)On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place but otherwise?On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake setup: -WOn Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a frequent or big deal to me.The collar: Looking forward to getting this frame!Allan in Marlboro, Vermont On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just eyeballing it not really. I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever c

[RBW] Re: Doldrums

[Jeffrey Arita]

Jay,

I've definitely been in your place - the 3 R's: the same roads, routes or 
routines.  Day in, day out.  One might suggest a way to get out of the 
doldrums is to engage in 'voluntary hardship.'  Perhaps a cycle-touring 
trip to a place/locale you have never been.  One such route that is kinda 
close to you is the Oregon Outback 
, partially inspired by Jan 
Heine's trip report (and no, we did NOT do it as a FKT).  In fact, we did 
it extremely slowly.  We hit frost, rain and heat all in the same trip.  
Definitely something that might take you out of the doldrums.

Good luck,

Jeff
Claremont, CA


On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:52:51 PM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Over the years my cycling has increasingly tended toward 
> commuting/utility. Bike-centered vacations/tours remain on the menu, and 
> are still very enjoyable to me, but the day-in, day-out feels like a chore. 
> Part of this is seasonal — I have an easier time dealing with cool, wet 
> conditions than hot, sticky weather. So maybe this problem will solve 
> itself with the autumn rains imminent. But I’m wondering whether others 
> ever get a case of cycling burnout, and maybe have some tips to work 
> through it.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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Re: [RBW] moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I got it mounted properly and the ambient humidity has dropped considerably 
here over the last two days. Still moisture inside the light and it's not 
work at all. But I may take it off the bike and try to submerge in a bag of 
rice or silica gel. Not high hopes for it, though. 

On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:37:45 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Or, mount it correctly and sit it out in the sun for a while (keeping 
> close watch over the bike, since you *are* in Brooklyn). See what the 
> moisture situation looks like after it’s had a day to dry out.
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:12 AM, 'Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> In addition to mounting it properly, I would remove and submerge it in 
> some silica gel/rice/etc to try and draw out as much moisture as possible.
>  
>
> To my mind, continuing to use it w/internal moisture increases the odds of 
> a short and/or more significant damage.
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:12:56 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
>> guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
>> this helps. Thanks guys!
>>
>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
>>> bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
>>> Peter Whites site:
>>>
>>> [image: B&MIQXUD1.jpg]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
 I noticed my B&M IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
 there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
 Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try 
 to 
 take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
 wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when 
 the 
 wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
 illuminate beyond the flicker. 

 [image: IMG-4818.jpg]

>>>
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Re: [RBW] moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[lconley]

May want to take it apart and clean it with some isopropyl alcohol and 
Q-tips, if it can be taken apart. I once had success cleaning a circuit 
board of a Hilti laser rangefinder that had a battery leak. Also a hair 
dryer on low may speed up drying.

Laing

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 9:53:20 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
(Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> I got it mounted properly and the ambient humidity has dropped 
> considerably here over the last two days. Still moisture inside the light 
> and it's not work at all. But I may take it off the bike and try to 
> submerge in a bag of rice or silica gel. Not high hopes for it, though. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:37:45 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Or, mount it correctly and sit it out in the sun for a while (keeping 
>> close watch over the bike, since you *are* in Brooklyn). See what the 
>> moisture situation looks like after it’s had a day to dry out.
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:12 AM, 'Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> In addition to mounting it properly, I would remove and submerge it in 
>> some silica gel/rice/etc to try and draw out as much moisture as possible.
>>  
>>
>> To my mind, continuing to use it w/internal moisture increases the odds 
>> of a short and/or more significant damage.
>>
>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:12:56 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy 
>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>
>>> Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
>>> guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
>>> this helps. Thanks guys!
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out 
 the bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
 Peter Whites site:

 [image: B&MIQXUD1.jpg]

 Laing

 On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
 (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> I noticed my B&M IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try 
> to 
> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when 
> the 
> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>
> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Doldrums

[Jay Lonner]

I think the 3 R's capture my sentiment nicely. We've done a number of
credit card tours in Europe, which have been uniformly fantastic.
Bikepacking routes like the Oregon Outback are super appealing, but also a
little intimidating, and would also exclude my wife, who humors my biking
fantasies but only to a point. Still, I keep reading Adventure Cyclist
magazine and finding inspiration, so maybe mixing it up a little is what's
called for. I periodically go to the Tumbleweed website and ogle the
Prospector, but have yet to pull the trigger, which in a way is silly since
bikes are super cheap compared to operating and maintaining a boat! Thanks
for stoking my daydreams...

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 6:26 AM Jeffrey Arita 
wrote:

> Jay,
>
> I've definitely been in your place - the 3 R's: the same roads, routes or
> routines.  Day in, day out.  One might suggest a way to get out of the
> doldrums is to engage in 'voluntary hardship.'  Perhaps a cycle-touring
> trip to a place/locale you have never been.  One such route that is kinda
> close to you is the Oregon Outback
> , partially inspired by
> Jan Heine's trip report (and no, we did NOT do it as a FKT).  In fact, we
> did it extremely slowly.  We hit frost, rain and heat all in the same
> trip.  Definitely something that might take you out of the doldrums.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:52:51 PM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Over the years my cycling has increasingly tended toward
>> commuting/utility. Bike-centered vacations/tours remain on the menu, and
>> are still very enjoyable to me, but the day-in, day-out feels like a chore.
>> Part of this is seasonal — I have an easier time dealing with cool, wet
>> conditions than hot, sticky weather. So maybe this problem will solve
>> itself with the autumn rains imminent. But I’m wondering whether others
>> ever get a case of cycling burnout, and maybe have some tips to work
>> through it.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
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[RBW] FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

Hello!

After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . I 
built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike 
to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 

Specs Below
Susie Large Frame - Orange
SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
Billie Bar
Nitto Technomic Stem
Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
Avid  7 V-Brakes
Brooks B17 Saddle
Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.

I'm asking $2600.
Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI

Daniel MacPherson

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Re: [RBW] Re: Doldrums

[Piaw Na]

Europe is super cheap right now because of how low the Euro is. If you can 
find cheap tickets it's an amazing time to go. 

We went this summer after the COVID pandemic put an end to our touring 
plans for a couple of years. It was definitely worth 
it: https://blog.piaw.net/2022/07/tour-of-alps-2022.html

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 7:13:36 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> I think the 3 R's capture my sentiment nicely. We've done a number of 
> credit card tours in Europe, which have been uniformly fantastic. 
> Bikepacking routes like the Oregon Outback are super appealing, but also a 
> little intimidating, and would also exclude my wife, who humors my biking 
> fantasies but only to a point. Still, I keep reading Adventure Cyclist 
> magazine and finding inspiration, so maybe mixing it up a little is what's 
> called for. I periodically go to the Tumbleweed website and ogle the 
> Prospector, but have yet to pull the trigger, which in a way is silly since 
> bikes are super cheap compared to operating and maintaining a boat! Thanks 
> for stoking my daydreams...
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 6:26 AM Jeffrey Arita  wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I've definitely been in your place - the 3 R's: the same roads, routes or 
>> routines.  Day in, day out.  One might suggest a way to get out of the 
>> doldrums is to engage in 'voluntary hardship.'  Perhaps a cycle-touring 
>> trip to a place/locale you have never been.  One such route that is kinda 
>> close to you is the Oregon Outback 
>> , partially inspired by 
>> Jan Heine's trip report (and no, we did NOT do it as a FKT).  In fact, we 
>> did it extremely slowly.  We hit frost, rain and heat all in the same 
>> trip.  Definitely something that might take you out of the doldrums.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 1:52:51 PM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> Over the years my cycling has increasingly tended toward 
>>> commuting/utility. Bike-centered vacations/tours remain on the menu, and 
>>> are still very enjoyable to me, but the day-in, day-out feels like a chore. 
>>> Part of this is seasonal — I have an easier time dealing with cool, wet 
>>> conditions than hot, sticky weather. So maybe this problem will solve 
>>> itself with the autumn rains imminent. But I’m wondering whether others 
>>> ever get a case of cycling burnout, and maybe have some tips to work 
>>> through it.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Doldrums

[Bill Lindsay]

Regarding cul-de-sacs on Wandrer, you skipped over the interesting part 
that is a lot more general for cyclists:

Cyclists, as a general rule, avoid cul-de-sacs almost entirely.  Why?  
Because by definition they don't go anywhere.  Maybe without even realizing 
it a "normal cyclist" couldn't draw a picture of the triangular "No Outlet" 
sign, but when riding they recognize it in their spinal cord and stay away 
from the dead end therein.  Wandrer totally flips that.  When a wandrer 
sees that triangle on their "regular route" it's like an Easter Egg.  
That's a section you've passed dozens, even hundreds of times and never 
bothered to explore.  I've found it super rewarding to go down those 
unexplored dead ends.  I'm an amateur architecture buff, and some of the 
most interesting houses have been down those dead ends.  Also, I've found a 
number of interesting urban trails at the ends of cul-de-sacs which I 
imagine only the locals know about.  That binary switch from "cyclist" to 
"wandrer" is interesting on its own, IMO.

In the East SF Bay, some of those tiny side streets and cul-de-sacs are 
also among the most strenuous cycling one can find.  I've learned that all 
the "main drags" through the East Bay Hills are practically flat in the 
gradual ways they go up and down the hills.  The residential streets which 
shoot off those main drags are far steeper.  For a short, very strenuous 
workout that is still not repetitive, there is not much better than a Wandr 
in the Oakland Hills.  Those rides kick my butt.  

Regarding apartment complexes and other maze-like structures, those can be 
super challenging to get all the bits.  I usually make a cue sheet when I 
wandr, and that task can get tedious when it's a million little turns.  One 
way I've approached those structures has been in the simple ways 
mathematicians traverse mazes.  One way to cover a loopless maze is "right 
hand on the wall".  If a maze has no loops, then RHOW will cover the maze.  
It's pretty easy to recognize such a structure on the map and then a whole 
housing development can be knocked out on the cue sheet with a single 
"RHOW" entry.  

These are some of the ways that Wandrer has opened up using my brain on my 
cycling in ways that I hadn't bothered before.  For some people that may 
"take the fun out of it", but for me it gave me new ways to derive more fun 
in my cycling.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 4:19:24 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> With wandrer, even worse than cul-de-sacs for me are apartment complexes. 
> Tedious architecture and lots of dead ends. 
>
> I had one ride where I spent about 1.5 hours riding (in the rain!) through 
> several apartment complexes, trying to finally close out a section, only to 
> find my phone had stopped recording a mile into the ride. Doh!
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:59 PM Robert Tilley  wrote:
>
>> I recently signed up with Wandrer to force me to take some different 
>> routes. I've worked from home for the last 4 years or so and have no free 
>> time so all of my rides tend to be errands and also tend to be along the 
>> same routes. 
>>
>> It's been fun so far but I have come to really hate the inventor of the 
>> cul-de-sac. My area is full of them and it's a real pain to "bag" them all. 
>> One short road section here has eight cul-de-sacs sprouting off of it. I've 
>> gotten a lot of odd looks in the week that I've been trying to clear them 
>> all. I keep thinking I'm gonna get beat up since I likely look like some 
>> kind of weirdo riding into and out of all of these small neighborhoods. 
>> I've started using my Brompton so I look more like a harmless creep than a 
>> creepy creep. I'm waiting for someone to post about "some weird old guy 
>> riding through our neighborhoods" on the Nextdoor app.
>>
>> I make double sure that my watch is recording my ride before I take off. 
>> I can't even imagine going through some of those routes only to find I 
>> didn't hit "record". My wailing would be heard for miles and would be the 
>> source of much consternation I am certain.
>>
>> I have my area about clear so I'm now heading out into the unknown...
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 4:22 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Eric described and showed some of the fun one can derive from 
>>> wandrer.earth.
>>>
>>> I concur wholeheartedly that wandrer.earth can add another layer of fun 
>>> to cycling for some people.  I tend towards the compulsive, and so when I 
>>> can planfully do something, I am generally more likely to follow through 
>>> with that something, or at least stick with that pursuit for a longer 
>>> period.  In short, wandrer.earth got me through the pandemic, because it 
>>> added a layer of fun for rides that were all solo, and were mostly not far 
>>> from my front door.  I got pretty hardcore with it, and am very proud of my 
>>> footprint in the SF Bay Area (Contra Costa, Alameda and Mari

[RBW] Roaduno substitute for a while...

[Bill Lindsay]

I had been searching for quite a while for a single speed that enabled some 
derailer-less gear flexibility.  On one hand I searched for a 58cm 
Quickbeam or SimpleONE.  On the other hand I was/am waiting on the 
RoadUNO.  I was/am a huge fan of Rivendells rear dropouts with the angle 
that allows a significant gear change while maintaining brake adjustment.  

In an absolutely perfect world, my Size Large singlespeed would also have 
been 650B (for fat tires and no TCO).  While I'm sitting here in 
fantasy-land, I also would have waved my magic wand to have the bike be 
belt-compatible, and would allow brakes, but have a discreet way to NOT run 
brakes.  

Over the last 18 months or so, I've been working with placeholders for 
these things.  I bought a Crust Michigan Man right when they were released 
and set it up as a strictly 1-speed fixie in my office in Wayne County, 
Michigan.  Will at Riv also has a Michigan Man.  I also managed to acquire 
a 58cm Quickbeam, and that is now in my garage as a 8-speed single speed.  
I slowly acquired some of the parts for a 650B custom, including a pair of 
Rivendell dropouts.  I even had preliminary conversations with a local 
builder, and have a tentative spot on his enormous waiting list.  

Then, totally by surprise, a new contender appeared.  Crust released a new 
variant of their single speed Lightning Bolt.  It's 650B, with clearance 
for 48mm tires and contemporary Randonneur geometry.  It's belt-compatible 
and has removable cantilever posts and cable guides.  It's almost exactly 
what my custom would have been except for the Riv-style ends.  

It's 2022, and the lesson we've all learned is that if the thing you want 
is available, you buy it, because it may never be available again.  So, I 
went ahead and bought it, and the frame should arrive today.  I'm pretty 
excited.  

Whether or not my new Crust will get replaced by a RoadUNO next year 
remains to be seen.  Will's email updates (plus simple geometry) make it 
pretty clear to me that the RoadUNO will not have Riv ends.  It'll have 
some other svelte track ends, so easy gear changes with a rear brake won't 
be part of the feature list, it seems.  I'm still paying very close 
attention, but the itch is getting scratched today.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brown Small TrunkSack, Nitto M-18 front rack, Brooks Brown B17, Brooks Challenge Toolbag, Tektro R559 brakes

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you so much everyone for the purchases.

All sold other than:

• Brooks Challenge Saddle Bag in Antique Brown - $40
• Brooks Microfiber bar tape in Honey (unused) - $10 with another purchase


On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:

> Here we have a nice collection of parts that I am no longer using. All are 
> used but very lightly so.
>
> • Sackville TrunkSack Small in brown - $85
> • Nitto M-18 front rack - $85
> • Brooks B17 Special in Antique Brown, just broken-in and treated with 
> Obenauf's - $100
> • Brooks Challenge Saddle Bag in Antique Brown - $40
> • Nitto Tallux 12cm quill stem - $40
> • MKS/Rivendell Lambda Pedals - $30
> • Tektro Fl750 brake levers - $10 with another purchase
> • Brooks Microfiber bar tape in Honey (unused) - $10 with another purchase
>
> $300 for the whole lot
>
> all prices are shipped to the lower 48 states and I accept Paypal only
>
> [image: IMG_4429.png]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Doldrums

[James M]

Interesting on Wandrer.earth - I'll have to check that out.  I've been 
manually mapping new roads here in NJ post-ride in Google Maps for a few 
years, which is it's own kind of fun as I walk back through my recorded 
routes on RWGPS to see what new segments I picked up.  I love a good dead 
end that there's no reason to go down - *especially* the times when you 
discover a cut-through at the end to another block.  This is the stuff that 
makes me feel like a kid again, not a forty-something dad :)

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 12:37:53 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Regarding cul-de-sacs on Wandrer, you skipped over the interesting part 
> that is a lot more general for cyclists:
>
> Cyclists, as a general rule, avoid cul-de-sacs almost entirely.  Why?  
> Because by definition they don't go anywhere.  Maybe without even realizing 
> it a "normal cyclist" couldn't draw a picture of the triangular "No Outlet" 
> sign, but when riding they recognize it in their spinal cord and stay away 
> from the dead end therein.  Wandrer totally flips that.  When a wandrer 
> sees that triangle on their "regular route" it's like an Easter Egg.  
> That's a section you've passed dozens, even hundreds of times and never 
> bothered to explore.  I've found it super rewarding to go down those 
> unexplored dead ends.  I'm an amateur architecture buff, and some of the 
> most interesting houses have been down those dead ends.  Also, I've found a 
> number of interesting urban trails at the ends of cul-de-sacs which I 
> imagine only the locals know about.  That binary switch from "cyclist" to 
> "wandrer" is interesting on its own, IMO.
>
> In the East SF Bay, some of those tiny side streets and cul-de-sacs are 
> also among the most strenuous cycling one can find.  I've learned that all 
> the "main drags" through the East Bay Hills are practically flat in the 
> gradual ways they go up and down the hills.  The residential streets which 
> shoot off those main drags are far steeper.  For a short, very strenuous 
> workout that is still not repetitive, there is not much better than a Wandr 
> in the Oakland Hills.  Those rides kick my butt.  
>
> Regarding apartment complexes and other maze-like structures, those can be 
> super challenging to get all the bits.  I usually make a cue sheet when I 
> wandr, and that task can get tedious when it's a million little turns.  One 
> way I've approached those structures has been in the simple ways 
> mathematicians traverse mazes.  One way to cover a loopless maze is "right 
> hand on the wall".  If a maze has no loops, then RHOW will cover the maze.  
> It's pretty easy to recognize such a structure on the map and then a whole 
> housing development can be knocked out on the cue sheet with a single 
> "RHOW" entry.  
>
> These are some of the ways that Wandrer has opened up using my brain on my 
> cycling in ways that I hadn't bothered before.  For some people that may 
> "take the fun out of it", but for me it gave me new ways to derive more fun 
> in my cycling.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 4:19:24 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> With wandrer, even worse than cul-de-sacs for me are apartment complexes. 
>> Tedious architecture and lots of dead ends. 
>>
>> I had one ride where I spent about 1.5 hours riding (in the rain!) 
>> through several apartment complexes, trying to finally close out a section, 
>> only to find my phone had stopped recording a mile into the ride. Doh!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:59 PM Robert Tilley  wrote:
>>
>>> I recently signed up with Wandrer to force me to take some different 
>>> routes. I've worked from home for the last 4 years or so and have no free 
>>> time so all of my rides tend to be errands and also tend to be along the 
>>> same routes. 
>>>
>>> It's been fun so far but I have come to really hate the inventor of the 
>>> cul-de-sac. My area is full of them and it's a real pain to "bag" them all. 
>>> One short road section here has eight cul-de-sacs sprouting off of it. I've 
>>> gotten a lot of odd looks in the week that I've been trying to clear them 
>>> all. I keep thinking I'm gonna get beat up since I likely look like some 
>>> kind of weirdo riding into and out of all of these small neighborhoods. 
>>> I've started using my Brompton so I look more like a harmless creep than a 
>>> creepy creep. I'm waiting for someone to post about "some weird old guy 
>>> riding through our neighborhoods" on the Nextdoor app.
>>>
>>> I make double sure that my watch is recording my ride before I take off. 
>>> I can't even imagine going through some of those routes only to find I 
>>> didn't hit "record". My wailing would be heard for miles and would be the 
>>> source of much consternation I am certain.
>>>
>>> I have my area about clear so I'm now heading out into the unknown...
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 4:22 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
>

[RBW] Re: FS: Mark's Rack -- Carcass ONLY

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Hi Bill, PM sent

On Thursday, 15 September 2022 at 12:35:45 UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> There are several people out there looking for a Mark's Rack.  I'm holding 
> one, and I know that I'll have the opportunity to use it someday, so I'm 
> content to hold it.  That said, if somebody out there is super eager, I'm 
> willing to trade my insurance for some money.
>
> My Mark's Rack is currently only a carcass.  There are NO Struts, and No 
> Strut daruma bolts.  Those parts have been scavenged by me for other Nitto 
> rack implementations in my stable.  It's just the rack body, plus the 
> diving board, plus the nuts and bolts for the diving board.  You will have 
> to source struts and darumas on your own.  If you buy a complete, new 
> Mark's Rack for $160, you would get two pairs of struts and four daruma 
> bolts.  Those parts are not cheap if you have to go buy them at retail.  
>
> So, my ideal purchaser will be somebody who accumulates struts and other 
> Nitto hardware and can make a complete rack from this chassis without 
> having to outlay a ton of extra money.  
>
> I'm asking $100 shipped.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Joe Bernard]

Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? It's 
gorgeous, somebody go get it! 

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote:

> Hello!
>
> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . I 
> built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
> better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
> the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike 
> to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 
>
> Specs Below
> Susie Large Frame - Orange
> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
> Billie Bar
> Nitto Technomic Stem
> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
> Avid  7 V-Brakes
> Brooks B17 Saddle
> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>
> I'm asking $2600.
> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>
> Daniel MacPherson
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Jon Dukeman]

What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? It's
> gorgeous, somebody go get it!
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson
> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . I
>> built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter
>> better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in
>> the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike
>> to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so.
>>
>> Specs Below
>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>> Billie Bar
>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring.
>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>
>> I'm asking $2600.
>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>
>> Daniel MacPherson
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

Sorry, beautiful dark gold The rear rack is the Nitto bag supporter. 

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:47:53 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? It's 
>> gorgeous, somebody go get it! 
>>
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . 
>>> I built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
>>> better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
>>> the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike 
>>> to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 
>>>
>>> Specs Below
>>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>>> Billie Bar
>>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
>>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>>
>>> I'm asking $2600.
>>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>>
>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Joe Bernard]

R10, Analog has them. 

https://analogcycles.com/products/nitto-r-10-rear-bag-support

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 11:47:53 AM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? It's 
>> gorgeous, somebody go get it! 
>>
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . 
>>> I built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
>>> better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
>>> the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike 
>>> to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 
>>>
>>> Specs Below
>>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>>> Billie Bar
>>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
>>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>>
>>> I'm asking $2600.
>>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>>
>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: 64cm or 66cm Rambouillet creamsicle OR Redwood

[Jay P]

Hello  I'm looking to buy a 64cm a 66cm Rambouillet or Redwood 

Ideally a complete bike (or close to it) 

Any cosmetic condition is OK (with mild preference for nice shape)

If you have one you might be willing to part with, please message me 
directly !

Thank you --

Jay Primus
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.

UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?

Eric

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us
> the bike built up?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both
> the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some
> build photos too!
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set
>> out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see
>>> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or
>>> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be
 here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed
 even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived
 within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get
 my bike.

 It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country -
 winter is coming.

 Leah

 On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:

 They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply
 chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to
 go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the
 bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.



 On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> From this week's email:
>
> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending
> out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in
> the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either 
> build
> up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month
> and a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>
> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the
> frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>>
>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the
>> option of adding a dropper post :)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email)
>>> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use
 something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a
 similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty 
 well in
 place but otherwise?

 On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:

 If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a
 small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
 steel
 and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat
 post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally 
 unique
 brake setup:

 [image: seatpost-line.png]
 -W
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I
> have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving 
> aside
> for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of 
> waiting for
> the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
> Platy
> has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame 
> instead.
>
> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the
> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
> weakening
> the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat
> stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug 
> so
> they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Oh, I hope Saturday! 🤞 How far are you from Grand Rapids, MI? I want you to bring that Rosco Plat to our Riv Ride! 😍 (October 15!)Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?EricOn Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  wrote:Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us the bike built up?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some build photos too!DougOn Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.EricOn Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!LOn Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get my bike. It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter is coming. LeahOn Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:From this week's email:Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.EricOn Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote: I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of adding a dropper post :)On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place but otherwise?On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake setup: -WOn Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a frequent or big deal to me.The collar: Looking forward to getting this frame!Allan in Marlboro, Vermont On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:The ETT measurement is done so horizontally

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Richard Rose]

A Rosco in Ohio? Cool.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.
> 
> UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us 
>> the bike built up?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
 
>>> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both 
>>> the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some 
>>> build photos too!
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
 I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set 
 out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
 
 Eric
 
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see 
> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or 
> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
> L
> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be 
>>> here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being 
>>> delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on 
>>> order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor 
>>> Day driving to get my bike. 
>>> 
>>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - 
>>> winter is coming. 
>>> 
>>> Leah
>>> 
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
 They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the 
 supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately 
 decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. 
 Not because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>> 
 
 
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
> From this week's email:
> 
> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending 
> out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds 
> in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to 
> either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, 
> about a month and a half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.
> 
> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the 
> frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>> 
>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the 
>> option of adding a dropper post :)
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  
>>> wrote:
>>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) 
>>> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>>> 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
 Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
 something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? 
 Or a similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat 
 pretty well in place but otherwise?
 
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>> 
> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use 
> a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's 
> stronger than steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable 
> anger and around the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a 
> totally functional & totally unique brake setup: 
 
> 
> -W
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 
>> allan@gmail.com wrote:
>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because 
>> I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been 
>> saving aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both 
>> got tired of waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a 
>> conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical 
>> geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 
>>>

Re: [RBW] moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

[Peter Adler]

The purer the isopropyl (i.e., the higher proof, more alcohol/less water), 
the better; water leaves trace deposits of minerals on circuitry, which can 
cause damage when current is applied.

The wide distribution of high concentration alcohols at relatively low 
price is one of the few collateral benefits of the COVID Era. 70% has 
replaced 43-50% at the cheap end, and 91% is common. I've occasionally 
found pint bottles of 99% alcohol for $3 at my local Safeways and 
Walgreens; I used to pay $18 per liter for 99% alcohol electronic cleaner 
at my local electronics hobby shop, now sadly driven to extinction by that 
same COVID plague.

*Naturellement*, you'll want to let the alcohol evaporate as much as 
possible before applying any kind of heat (hair dryer at absolutely lowest 
heat setting). Heat + alcohol = FIRE.

Peter Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 7:00:52 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> May want to take it apart and clean it with some isopropyl alcohol and 
> Q-tips, if it can be taken apart. I once had success cleaning a circuit 
> board of a Hilti laser rangefinder that had a battery leak. Also a hair 
> dryer on low may speed up drying.

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[RBW] Re: Chain Jam

[Piaw Na]

It's possible that your chain is too long and all that happened was that 
the chain bounced and got caught up. Usually something like this is called 
"chain suck." I've had a chain wrap itself around the rear derailleur and 
ripped the entire derailleur hanger off (that ended the ride!), and I've 
had the front derailleur ripped off in similar fashion (ripping off the 
front derailleur does not end the ride). This in particular tends to happen 
to bicycles with triple chainrings, as all my bikes had. It's one of the 
reasons I've switched to 1x --- with a narrow-wide chainring, no FD, and a 
clutch derailleur these don't tend to happen.

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 7:43:43 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> My chain jammed in my front derailleur. What happened?
>
> I wasn’t going fast or slow, I hadn’t shifted gears, and I wasn’t putting 
> any unusual stress or power on the drivetrain. I was just cruising along a 
> flat street, gently pedaling, when suddenly my cranks locked and I couldn’t 
> pedal forward or backward. 
>
> I coasted to a stop and looked down. The chain was fouled and jammed in 
> the front derailleur, and the rear derailleur was parallel with 
> the chainstays. I walked my bike home and took photos of the damage. I have 
> many questions for you experts:
>
> 1: What caused this? How and why did my chain get jammed in the front 
> derailleur? 
>
> 2: Does this breakdown have a name?
>
> 3: Is this something I did or failed to do e.g. bad shifting, lack of 
> maintenance, is something bent or misaligned, or is it just the inevitable 
> entropy from mileage and time?
>
> 4: How do I prevent this from happening?
>
> 5: How do I fix it and what tools will I need if I’m out on a long ride?
>
> Photos below.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Do Roadinis ride tall?

[Slin]

Could the difference in feel be from the w-factor?

On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 2:58:43 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Roadini has been an eye opener for me in terms of seeing how Grant has 
> evolved in his thinking. I really like the idea of slackening the head tube 
> and making it up with increasing the rake. The result is a similar feeling 
> geometry but no toe overlap and room for wider tires. I suspect if I ever 
> end up getting a new custom frame I'd use the Roadini geometry, shorten the 
> chainstays by about 1cm, and increase the BB drop to 82 or 85mm (don't ever 
> pedal around corners or use tires less than 700x30 --- since I like and use 
> clipless pedals I'll still have plenty of room), and it'll be pretty much 
> ideal. I agree that you can't beat a low BB height for cornering and 
> descending.
>
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 2:53:40 PM UTC-7 Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>> My Custom or Road Standard (not sure which) rides a lot lower than my 
>> Clem Smith, because, well, it is.  It's a bike that came standard with 
>> narrowish tires by todays Riv standards and has 80mm BB drop.  Then I went 
>> and converted it to 650B x38.  It's really low.  Like never pedal through a 
>> corner low.  If I look down, the pedal seems alarmingly close to the 
>> ground.  But I love the way the bike handles this way, it feels so planted, 
>> but yet you can easily redirect it in a fast corner.  So I just don't look 
>> down at my pedal relative to the tarmac, and all is well.
>>
>> The Clem on the other hand has not only less BB drop to begin with, but 
>> also 29x2.1 tires on it.  Plus the riding position is extremely upright.  
>> Pretty much night and day between the two.  I have to duck quite a bit for 
>> the trees on the sidewalk between the two halves of my neighborhood (which 
>> don't connect by road, so nice).
>>
>> My Redwood, which is shod with 700Cx38 tires and more or less in a 
>> stock configuration, falls somewhere in the middle.
>>
>> Random musings brought to you by,
>> Jim
>> Austin suburbs, TX
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 9:57 AM Piaw Na  wrote:
>>
>>> I recently acquired a Roadini, and I've been puzzling over the way it 
>>> rides. It feels a lot taller than my custom touring bike, which was itself 
>>> based on a 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 geometry with longer chainstays (43cm) and 
>>> a 80mm BB drop. The Roadini has a 75mm BB drop, and I've got 28mm tires on 
>>> the Roadini vs 25mm on my touring bike, so in theory, that's only an 8mm 
>>> difference in BB height. But when I ride the Roadini it feels a lot taller 
>>> than that! Strangely enough, that doesn't affect handling on climbs or on 
>>> gravel, but on descents it makes me slow down quite a bit in comparison 
>>> with my custom bike. Did anyone experience anything similar?
>>>
>>> I've attached my frame geometry, and the Roadini 54cm geometry is here: 
>>> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-540-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Chain Jam

[Joe Bernard]

I shall speculate: 
I see a chain on the middle ring that stayed stuck to the teeth at the 
bottom and came back up the backside until it jammed in the derailleur. 

Causes:
1. Old gloopy lube could stick to the chainring teeth. 
2. A worn tooth might snag the chain (I'm less convinced of this one). 
3. I see chain pickup pins on your rings which tells me you may also have 
crooked teeth (can't see them) on the middle ring to aid shifting..one of 
those may have caught the chain. 
4. It's a 10- or 11-speed chain and a smidge narrow for those rings. Riv 
claims they're good up to 10 but those Silver cranks were introduced when 
all Rivs used 8 or 9, they usually work with 10 (not 11) anyway but you may 
have gotten unlucky today. 

Solutions: 
Clean goop off, check for wear, on your next ride check to see if your 
chain is trying to catch on the bottom run as it passes the ring back to 
the rear derailleur. 

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 7:43:43 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> My chain jammed in my front derailleur. What happened?
>
> I wasn’t going fast or slow, I hadn’t shifted gears, and I wasn’t putting 
> any unusual stress or power on the drivetrain. I was just cruising along a 
> flat street, gently pedaling, when suddenly my cranks locked and I couldn’t 
> pedal forward or backward. 
>
> I coasted to a stop and looked down. The chain was fouled and jammed in 
> the front derailleur, and the rear derailleur was parallel with 
> the chainstays. I walked my bike home and took photos of the damage. I have 
> many questions for you experts:
>
> 1: What caused this? How and why did my chain get jammed in the front 
> derailleur? 
>
> 2: Does this breakdown have a name?
>
> 3: Is this something I did or failed to do e.g. bad shifting, lack of 
> maintenance, is something bent or misaligned, or is it just the inevitable 
> entropy from mileage and time?
>
> 4: How do I prevent this from happening?
>
> 5: How do I fix it and what tools will I need if I’m out on a long ride?
>
> Photos below.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Chain Jam

[Joe Bernard]

Clarifying: I don't actually know what chain you're using, I'm just 
wondering if you have a 10- or 11-speed chain on those 7/8/9-ish rings. A 
10 should work but you could get unlucky, an 11 probably won't. 

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 9:01:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I shall speculate: 
> I see a chain on the middle ring that stayed stuck to the teeth at the 
> bottom and came back up the backside until it jammed in the derailleur. 
>
> Causes:
> 1. Old gloopy lube could stick to the chainring teeth. 
> 2. A worn tooth might snag the chain (I'm less convinced of this one). 
> 3. I see chain pickup pins on your rings which tells me you may also have 
> crooked teeth (can't see them) on the middle ring to aid shifting..one of 
> those may have caught the chain. 
> 4. It's a 10- or 11-speed chain and a smidge narrow for those rings. Riv 
> claims they're good up to 10 but those Silver cranks were introduced when 
> all Rivs used 8 or 9, they usually work with 10 (not 11) anyway but you may 
> have gotten unlucky today. 
>
> Solutions: 
> Clean goop off, check for wear, on your next ride check to see if your 
> chain is trying to catch on the bottom run as it passes the ring back to 
> the rear derailleur. 
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 7:43:43 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> My chain jammed in my front derailleur. What happened?
>>
>> I wasn’t going fast or slow, I hadn’t shifted gears, and I wasn’t putting 
>> any unusual stress or power on the drivetrain. I was just cruising along a 
>> flat street, gently pedaling, when suddenly my cranks locked and I couldn’t 
>> pedal forward or backward. 
>>
>> I coasted to a stop and looked down. The chain was fouled and jammed in 
>> the front derailleur, and the rear derailleur was parallel with 
>> the chainstays. I walked my bike home and took photos of the damage. I have 
>> many questions for you experts:
>>
>> 1: What caused this? How and why did my chain get jammed in the front 
>> derailleur? 
>>
>> 2: Does this breakdown have a name?
>>
>> 3: Is this something I did or failed to do e.g. bad shifting, lack of 
>> maintenance, is something bent or misaligned, or is it just the inevitable 
>> entropy from mileage and time?
>>
>> 4: How do I prevent this from happening?
>>
>> 5: How do I fix it and what tools will I need if I’m out on a long ride?
>>
>> Photos below.
>>
>>

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