[RBW] Re: Wrap Up: My first riding season in Michigan

[Joe Bernard]

Marc seems like a very nice and helpful fellow. And bonus: not a serial 
killer! 

On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 7:45:34 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> As you have likely heard, (because I have been blathering on about it for 
> months) my family moved to Michigan in January 2022. I unpacked and then 
> looked around, noting that I had *zero* friends. By this time I had been 
> riding my Rivendell alone for 10 years and I was sick of it. I wanted 
> friends - *bike friends- *so I went looking for them at the local bike 
> club. I showed up with:
> Group ride experience: zero.
> Club ride experience: zero.
> Knowledge of my ability: close to zero.
>
> But I did know this: I’d probably be the only one riding an upright, steel 
> mixte. The club was founded by racers 50 years ago, yikes. But they were 
> remarkably welcoming, and the kind people from this List sent me Marc 
> Irwin’s email. Turns out, there is one other Rivendell in my local club 
> rides - Marc’s! 
>
> Marc is a Lone Wolf who put aside his solitary tendencies after hearing I 
> had taken a treacherous route into downtown. He decided since it was a 
> matter of life and death he ought to get involved. He offered to meet me 
> and show me safer ways to navigate our city. My desire to have a bike 
> friend was greater than my fear that Marc might be a serial killer, so I 
> agreed. It was such a delight to ride Rivendells together. Prior to this 
> I’d rarely even seen another Rivendell in the wild. If The Lone Wolf felt 
> the same, there was no indication. That is not his way. But, he agreed to 
> the next ride. And the next. We wondered if there were other Rivendell 
> owners who would love the camaraderie we had found. Pretty soon we were 
> planning big rides in SW Michigan for people to join us for trail rides on 
> Rivendell bikes. We hosted two, and there is demand for more of them in 
> Michigan in 2023. 
>
> Our personal Riv Rides take us through Kalamazoo and surrounding areas. We 
> always stop for refreshments - coffee, ice cream, lunch. My role is to call 
> out and remark upon all of the wonderful things I was deprived of during my 
> desert living - trees, flowers, bodies of water, and roadkill. The Lone 
> Wolf is in charge of planning the routes and rolling his eyes heavenward 
> while suffering The Platypus RIder’s effusiveness. It is my job to take all 
> the photos and The Lone Wolf’s job to protest the photos. It is also The 
> Lone Wolf’s job to fix all the stuff that breaks, which has only been his. 
> It is my job remain eternally lost but sublimely happy. 
>
> I have had a lovely time this year; The Lone Wolf has maintained his 
> aloofness. I once joked that he might not have as much fun as I do, and he 
> said, “Well, I haven’t left you out here yet,” so he is clearly 
> delighted.To date, this is the warmest thing he has ever said to me, and it 
> is all the encouragement I need to suggest the next ride, and the next.
>
> I had a great club riding season, and rode with 3 different groups every 
> week in the 16 mph group. Our Friday group went faster though, maybe 17. I 
> met a lot of nice people and gained lots of confidence with road riding. 
> All the metrics I have to measure my fitness are the best they’ve ever 
> been. Ripping around on your bike is fun, but it’s not the best riding I 
> do. The best rides I do are Riv Rides; where I’m free to explore and take 
> the trails and talk without gasping for breath. I’m so excited to continue 
> them in the spring, and maybe for a few stolen warm days over the winter.
>
> I owe a lot of gratitude to the good people of Michigan for making this 
> desert-dweller feel welcome in the Great Lakes Region. Enclosed is my recap 
> of the Riv Rides we did this year. It’s a link to FB because the video is 
> too large to share here. If the link doesn’t work, let me know because the 
> video can be emailed if you want it.
> Leah
> https://www.facebook.com/1566620267/videos/429321249410678/
>

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[RBW] Wrap Up: My first riding season in Michigan

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

As you have likely heard, (because I have been blathering on about it for 
months) my family moved to Michigan in January 2022. I unpacked and then 
looked around, noting that I had *zero* friends. By this time I had been 
riding my Rivendell alone for 10 years and I was sick of it. I wanted 
friends - *bike friends- *so I went looking for them at the local bike 
club. I showed up with:
Group ride experience: zero.
Club ride experience: zero.
Knowledge of my ability: close to zero.

But I did know this: I’d probably be the only one riding an upright, steel 
mixte. The club was founded by racers 50 years ago, yikes. But they were 
remarkably welcoming, and the kind people from this List sent me Marc 
Irwin’s email. Turns out, there is one other Rivendell in my local club 
rides - Marc’s! 

Marc is a Lone Wolf who put aside his solitary tendencies after hearing I 
had taken a treacherous route into downtown. He decided since it was a 
matter of life and death he ought to get involved. He offered to meet me 
and show me safer ways to navigate our city. My desire to have a bike 
friend was greater than my fear that Marc might be a serial killer, so I 
agreed. It was such a delight to ride Rivendells together. Prior to this 
I’d rarely even seen another Rivendell in the wild. If The Lone Wolf felt 
the same, there was no indication. That is not his way. But, he agreed to 
the next ride. And the next. We wondered if there were other Rivendell 
owners who would love the camaraderie we had found. Pretty soon we were 
planning big rides in SW Michigan for people to join us for trail rides on 
Rivendell bikes. We hosted two, and there is demand for more of them in 
Michigan in 2023. 

Our personal Riv Rides take us through Kalamazoo and surrounding areas. We 
always stop for refreshments - coffee, ice cream, lunch. My role is to call 
out and remark upon all of the wonderful things I was deprived of during my 
desert living - trees, flowers, bodies of water, and roadkill. The Lone 
Wolf is in charge of planning the routes and rolling his eyes heavenward 
while suffering The Platypus RIder’s effusiveness. It is my job to take all 
the photos and The Lone Wolf’s job to protest the photos. It is also The 
Lone Wolf’s job to fix all the stuff that breaks, which has only been his. 
It is my job remain eternally lost but sublimely happy. 

I have had a lovely time this year; The Lone Wolf has maintained his 
aloofness. I once joked that he might not have as much fun as I do, and he 
said, “Well, I haven’t left you out here yet,” so he is clearly 
delighted.To date, this is the warmest thing he has ever said to me, and it 
is all the encouragement I need to suggest the next ride, and the next.

I had a great club riding season, and rode with 3 different groups every 
week in the 16 mph group. Our Friday group went faster though, maybe 17. I 
met a lot of nice people and gained lots of confidence with road riding. 
All the metrics I have to measure my fitness are the best they’ve ever 
been. Ripping around on your bike is fun, but it’s not the best riding I 
do. The best rides I do are Riv Rides; where I’m free to explore and take 
the trails and talk without gasping for breath. I’m so excited to continue 
them in the spring, and maybe for a few stolen warm days over the winter.

I owe a lot of gratitude to the good people of Michigan for making this 
desert-dweller feel welcome in the Great Lakes Region. Enclosed is my recap 
of the Riv Rides we did this year. It’s a link to FB because the video is 
too large to share here. If the link doesn’t work, let me know because the 
video can be emailed if you want it.
Leah
https://www.facebook.com/1566620267/videos/429321249410678/

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Re: [RBW] Is this a mystery Riv?

[Charles Wilson]

Looks like a Univega.

Charles Wilson
Lafayette CA via Martinez

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 5:33 PM mrb  wrote:

> Thought it might be a Redwood, but the fork looks wrong?
>
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/7556406408.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who is getting a Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

Well she is going to love it. And then you might love it, too, but get your own Platypus! How was the test ride? I feel like my Platy climbs great, and I hope she felt the same way about hers.LeahOn Nov 11, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:For what it's worth, my wife's Platypus build is complete.  Interestingly, in the time this build was in the stand, my wife elected to come out of semi-retirement and took a job.  She's interested in using this mermaid Platy as her new work-commute bike.  We're going to go for a test ride down and up our hill to see if she can manage it.  Pics prove it's built:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52493691449/in/album-72177720303612192/Build details: Pacenti Brevet Rims, Shimano Deore XT M737 hubs.  Blue Salsa Skewers.  584x48 Rene Herse knobbies2x10 drivetrain.  10sp Shimano barcons on the stem.  Deore XT M750 rapid rise RD. Skeleton Key FD.  Crust Pedals.  Sugino Impel Crankset 170mm.  44/29 TA ringsChoco-normal cockpit from Chris H.  Deore XT M737 V-brakesBrooks SaddleTITANIUM King CageThe rack and basket is going on now.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 11:03:57 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m excited to hear how she likes it, Bill. It is a long and luxurious creature; should feel very novel if she’s been riding her Yves. I hope she rides the tires bald!Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 21, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:I just bought a 50cm for my wife.  She had a 52cm Yves Gomez which was a hair big for her, and we wanted fatter tires.  I set up a Black Mountain La Cabra for her and she likes it OK, but really prefers a step through.  I'm going to set hers up with Rene Herse 48mm tires and she'll be in good shape.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will have evened out by now. Who is purchasing a Platypus? Leah



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Re: [RBW] Is this a mystery Riv?

[Joe Bunik]

Not Hot Dog.

On 11/11/22, mrb  wrote:
> Thought it might be a Redwood, but the fork looks wrong?
>
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/7556406408.html
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[RBW] Is this a mystery Riv?

[mrb]

Thought it might be a Redwood, but the fork looks wrong?

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/7556406408.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[reynoldslugs]

Thanks Rich, I love all these bikes.   Just did a lovely ride on the Sonoma 
Coast today, Monte Rio to Cazadero, over Ft Ross Road and down Meyer’s 
Grade to Highway 1.  Awesome weather!

I meant to mention, I had a Quickbeam but gave it to Crazy Bradford down in 
Petaluma, who loves it.  My knees are no longer suitable for fixed gear or 
single speed.  

Best,

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA

On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 9:37:42 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Very inspiring to see the variety of Rivs those of you currently 
> own or have owned. Max, you have a stellar collection of bikes! 
>
> I'm a Golden Ager in terms of longevity but less so with Rivendell; since 
> 2011 if I recall. Wish it had been sooner. I wouldn't have bought lesser 
> bikes. All part of the learning curve I guess. Cyclofiend, Ecolvelo and 
> Lovely Bicycle brought me into the Riv loop with reviews of the Sam 
> Hillborne. The Sam wasn't my first Riv - that was an Atlantis - but it 
> quickly led to a Sage Green Sam. The expression "you can't have one 
> Rivendell" certainly proved true. Some others followed: Clem H, Roadeo and 
> a Taiwan built Homer. 
>
> The Sam has been a keeper though with no plans to leave the stable!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:33 AM reynoldslugs  wrote:
>
>> Definitely a Golden Ager.  Late 90’s, I discovered Rivendell, spent some 
>> time with Grant, and picked up a Heron; got back into riding after a ten or 
>> fifteen year hiatus.  I’ve continue to ride each of my Rivendells - Custom, 
>> Legolas, Rambouillet, Roadeo, Atlantis, Heron (now a 650), maybe a few 
>> others.  
>>
>> Many are here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums
>>
>> Great thread. Thanks!
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>> On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 6:52:34 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 

>>>
>>> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
>>> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
>>> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
>>> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
>>> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
>>> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
>>> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
>>> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
>>> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
>>> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
>>> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
>>> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
>>> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
>>> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
>>> those 2 hours riding!
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who is getting a Platypus?

[Bill Lindsay]

For what it's worth, my wife's Platypus build is complete.  Interestingly, 
in the time this build was in the stand, my wife elected to come out of 
semi-retirement and took a job.  She's interested in using this mermaid 
Platy as her new work-commute bike.  We're going to go for a test ride down 
and up our hill to see if she can manage it.  

Pics prove it's built:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52493691449/in/album-72177720303612192/

Build details: 

Pacenti Brevet Rims, Shimano Deore XT M737 hubs.  Blue Salsa Skewers.  
584x48 Rene Herse knobbies
2x10 drivetrain.  10sp Shimano barcons on the stem.  Deore XT M750 rapid 
rise RD. Skeleton Key FD.  Crust Pedals.  Sugino Impel Crankset 170mm.  
44/29 TA rings
Choco-normal cockpit from Chris H.  Deore XT M737 V-brakes
Brooks Saddle
TITANIUM King Cage

The rack and basket is going on now.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 11:03:57 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m excited to hear how she likes it, Bill. It is a long and luxurious 
> creature; should feel very novel if she’s been riding her Yves. I hope she 
> rides the tires bald!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 21, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> I just bought a 50cm for my wife.  She had a 52cm Yves Gomez which was a 
> hair big for her, and we wanted fatter tires.  I set up a Black Mountain La 
> Cabra for her and she likes it OK, but really prefers a step through.  I'm 
> going to set hers up with Rene Herse 48mm tires and she'll be in good 
> shape.  
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
>> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
>> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
>> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
>> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>> have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell MUSA pants, Riv wool cap, leather gloves

[Eric Marth]

Gloves have sold. Open to an offer on the pants. 

Thanks!

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 4:35:00 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi all — Some stuff for sale. Prices are net to me, PayPal Friends and/or 
> Family and Venmo work. Shipping to you not included. 
>
> Pictures are here. 
> 
>  
>
> Thanks!
>
> *Rivendell MUSA pants — $60 each*
> Size medium in the old butternut color. Green pockets and gusset. Velcro 
> closures at ankles. Belts have been removed, plenty of elastic in waists. 
> Both rear buttons present on both pairs of pants. I have two pairs for 
> sale, price is per pair. The faintest grease marks at the drive side ankles 
> which I tried to show. 
>
> *Rivendell wool cap by Randi Jo — Trade for Randi Jo wool cap*
> This is a Rivendell size "medium" which is a Randi Jo size large (I have 
> this on good intel from Eric at Randi Jo Fab). Some discoloration to white 
> trim band inside from wear. Overall in good shape but definitely worn in. 
>
> I'd like to trade this for a plain Randi Jo wool cap 
> 
>  
> in dark or medium gray, size large. If that doesn't work out, then I'll 
> sell it.  
>
> *Kinco 901 leather gloves — $25*
> Pigskin leather with polyester insulation. Heavy duty gloves. Hardly worn. 
> Treated with Nikwax. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[R Shannon]

Very inspiring to see the variety of Rivs those of you currently
own or have owned. Max, you have a stellar collection of bikes!

I'm a Golden Ager in terms of longevity but less so with Rivendell; since
2011 if I recall. Wish it had been sooner. I wouldn't have bought lesser
bikes. All part of the learning curve I guess. Cyclofiend, Ecolvelo and
Lovely Bicycle brought me into the Riv loop with reviews of the Sam
Hillborne. The Sam wasn't my first Riv - that was an Atlantis - but it
quickly led to a Sage Green Sam. The expression "you can't have one
Rivendell" certainly proved true. Some others followed: Clem H, Roadeo and
a Taiwan built Homer.

The Sam has been a keeper though with no plans to leave the stable!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:33 AM reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Definitely a Golden Ager.  Late 90’s, I discovered Rivendell, spent some
> time with Grant, and picked up a Heron; got back into riding after a ten or
> fifteen year hiatus.  I’ve continue to ride each of my Rivendells - Custom,
> Legolas, Rambouillet, Roadeo, Atlantis, Heron (now a 650), maybe a few
> others.
>
> Many are here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums
>
> Great thread. Thanks!
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
> On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 6:52:34 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it
>> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get
>> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell
>> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam,
>> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate
>> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and
>> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine,
>> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I
>> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold
>> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do
>> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are
>> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100
>> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not
>> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend
>> those 2 hours riding!
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[John Dewey]

My journey along this path began in 1997, with a Litespeed—full Record
group, 23mm tires that barely fit, carbon fork...light and fast. Lots of
fun to ride. The very next year, as I recall, the newer Record group
included those great Ergo levers that many of us still ride now—with the
guts removed or in the guise of Cane Creek SCR-5 and the similar IRD
Drilliums. I really NEEDED a set of those new Ergo levers, but they were
*so* *expensive*, yikes.

At that point, as I pondered replacing the pointy levers, I had an
epiphany: this is how it will shake out if I continue to chase the
technology...there's no end to it. And I will never catch it. The levers on
my Litesepeed were fine, I just wanted the new ones. I had no need, just a
lot of *want*. BTW, about this same time, I began reading Grant's writing
via his old newsletters and I realized this was the philosophy I adhered
to.

Shortly thereafter, I decided, enough—sold the Litespeed in '99 and had
Richard Schwinn build me a Waterford touring frame, the AC1900. It's still
in my 'rotation' and I'm as fond of it now as I was when it arrived 23
years ago.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50644206498/in/album-72157702711634681/lightbox/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50492813172/in/album-72157704160992724/

Until then, I didn't realize I needed more than one bicycle—afterall, you
can only ride one at a time. So in autumn 2004, I walked into the great
Williamson Bike Works (RIP) in Madison WI, and saw this gorgeous deep blue
Rambouillet hanging from a hook on the ceiling with a bunch of other
frames. (Remember those days, when you could just walk into a shop and grab
one from the rafters. Don't we miss that?) I bought it on the spot and the
journey began in earnest.

The blue RAM is my only Rivendell but, of course, Richard builds frames for
Grant. And I have two EBISU built by Hiroshi Imura...so all in the same
family.  I have no more bicycle-envy left in me, so my hoarding impulses
now to turn to late '90s components to keep things running at the 9-speed
level. I find it manageable and entertaining, so I'm all good.

BEST / Jock Dewey / NorCAL

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:22 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Quickbeams change hands pretty regularly, but I may have only ever seen
> one Riv Mountain for sale. Maybe none. That was one of the first Rivs I was
> ever made aware of, so I've been attuned to them.  A lot of early bikes
> might be in garages and attics.
>
> The nu-Riv Platys seem to come up for sale a lot, but that might not be a
> high percentage of those sold. There might just be more of them, and more
> people active on the list.
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif - Armistice Day
>
> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 6:31:10 PM UTC-7 Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
>> I wonder what the least resold Riv is? At least the smallest ratio or
>> percentage of resales to sales. Clearly the Riv Mountain is the least
>> resold.
>>
>> -J
>>
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Re: [RBW] FOR SALE : 6 CRANKS -$100 FOR ALL

['Charlie' via RBW Owners Bunch]

CRANKS ARE SOLD

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 9:21:27 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> That's a great half-haiku.
> I feel like Alex could grasp life a little tighter, but maybe they're a 
> minimalist.
>
> Philip
> Imagine Peace for Armistice Day
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 7:43:59 AM UTC-8 Charlie wrote:
>
>> ALEX DID NOT WANT 6CRANKS .
>> STILL FOR SALE
>> CHARLIE
>>
>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 9:31:35 PM UTC-5 Charlie wrote:
>>
>>> Please contact me off list @ charli...@verizon.net
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-5 aleksandr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I will take these. Please. 
 Thank you
 Alex

 On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 3:17 PM 'Charlie' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> 6 CRANKS  - $100 FOR ALL 
>
> SOME HAVE NEW RINGS $170 mm LENGTH EXCEPT 1 HAS 175 LENGTH
>
> A HAVE MATCHING LEFT ARMS 
>
> ALL GOOD RINGS - NO BENT CRANKS
>
> THE BAD : HARDLY ANY  BOLTS THAT HOLD THE RINGS TO CRANKS
>
> BCD = Bolt Circle Diameter
>
> SR CUSTOM 118 BCD - 170 LENGTH ARMS - 52-40 TEETH WITH EXTRA 36 TEETH 
> CHAIN RING 
>
> SUGINO 110BCD - 74BCD - 170 LENGTH ARMS - 52-42-28 TEETH
>
> SAKAE 110 BCD - 74 BCD 170 LENGTH ARMS - 48-38-32 TEETH
>
> SUGINO 110 BCD - 170 LENGTH ARMS - 52-36 TEETH
>
> SUGINO AT (AERO TOUR) 110 BCD - 74 BCD - 52-42-23 TEETH
>
> SHIMANO 110BCD - 74BCD - 45-36 TEETHCIMG6605.JPGCIMG6603.JPG
>
> 6 CRANKS FOR $100+SHIPPING $22 CASH OR USPS MONEY ORDER (POST OFFICE )
>NO OTHER MONEY ORDER
>
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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[reynoldslugs]

Definitely a Golden Ager.  Late 90’s, I discovered Rivendell, spent some 
time with Grant, and picked up a Heron; got back into riding after a ten or 
fifteen year hiatus.  I’ve continue to ride each of my Rivendells - Custom, 
Legolas, Rambouillet, Roadeo, Atlantis, Heron (now a 650), maybe a few 
others.  

Many are here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums

Great thread. Thanks!

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 6:52:34 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>>
>
> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
> those 2 hours riding!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Conway Bennett]

Good thread.  I'm a 2TTer.  I learned about Riv ~2010 through ecovelo which 
has a presence again on Instagram and cyclofiend.  My first Rivendell I 
bought was a 2TT Sam I got new for sub $1000, but I lusted after a 
Hunqapillar first because of the grey bean paint but especially after 
riding one at HQ--back then Hunqs were only $1850.  I currently have a 
Hunqapillar and my wife has a Rosco Bubbaloosa.  I was drinking Riv Kool 
aid for a bit, but now I have a crust canti lightning bolt and a BMC 
Monstercross on deck.  The Appaloosa was the last Riv I really liked, but I 
like 650b and the option of drop bars.
 
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 8:52:34 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>>
>
> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
> those 2 hours riding!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Ted Durant]

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
wrote:

> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>

I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
those 2 hours riding!

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Steven Sweedler]

I remember a FS for a Riv Mountain, $500 for the frameset, it was a large
and the ad cautioned how large a pbh you needed to ride it. I had just
bought something else and didn’t pursue it past one exchange of emails.
Never saw mention of it being sold, the seller did say it needed a comlete
 repaint. Steve

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 10:22 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Quickbeams change hands pretty regularly, but I may have only ever seen
> one Riv Mountain for sale. Maybe none. That was one of the first Rivs I was
> ever made aware of, so I've been attuned to them.  A lot of early bikes
> might be in garages and attics.
>
> The nu-Riv Platys seem to come up for sale a lot, but that might not be a
> high percentage of those sold. There might just be more of them, and more
> people active on the list.
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif - Armistice Day
>
> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 6:31:10 PM UTC-7 Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
>> I wonder what the least resold Riv is? At least the smallest ratio or
>> percentage of resales to sales. Clearly the Riv Mountain is the least
>> resold.
>>
>> -J
>>
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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[ascpgh]

My Rambouillet has been up and down the GAP/C&O in parts and its entirety 
numerous times and in all sorts of conditions. If you zoom in on its 
picture on my post you'll see the scarfing on the right seat stay that came 
from a person knocking it from a stable pedal prop along a brick planter 
then trying to stop the fall grabbing one end of the handlebar, guiding the 
tube on a slow, weighted downward drag along the top edge of the brick. 
Just paint, no metal damaged. Very unlikely to cosmetically repair without 
a major repaint, I rattle can clear coated the bare metal and keep an eye 
on it. Riding leaves marks and I do ride it. 

The non stock ivory blocking on the rear end of my Rambouillet is how I 
recovered from the baring of metal to re-braze the brake bridge when it 
broke loose a couple years back. A local builder put me back together but 
the stark area and margins to cover called for more than the previous plan 
used on the irregular scratches. I found a rattle can match for the ivory 
color, primed, painted and clear coated the area after a good surface prep. 
Black Sharpie to border the amrgin of the Ivory and Creamsicle. 

Each violation of the paint finish triggered a "repaint!" reflex in my 
mind, built over the time spent searching for receiving, riding, 
appreciating and ultimately valuing my ownership of a retired model. The 
other side of my brain adds these things up and said to me that after a 
driveside rear dropout replacement and prepaint, the events that have 
elicited that return to stock condition response would add up to a very 
nice custom frame and fork, which it did, by not executing on impulse. 

My Ram's still a head turner and not compromised from its original form 
other than how it's looking these days, which is care for and ridden. A lot.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-5 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Like Jason, I paid a somewhat embarrassing amount for a repaint on my 
> Hillborne, but I'm not overly-finicky about it. I'm careful at bike racks 
> and when I lean it against something, but I don't wipe it down with a 
> diaper either. Also, the painter lost my headbadge, so I put this Gonza one 
> on (i found it on ebay, and am an aviation nerd; it also sorta works as an 
> homage to the Bleriot). When I put that on, my hand slipped when the epoxy 
> was already on it, and I had to keep it a bit high on the headtube rather 
> than centered, but I figured a slight imperfection is fine. Also notice the 
> bike is pretty dirty- I just rode the GAP and C&O from Pittsburgh to DC. 
> I'll clean my chain and wipe my rims down, but that's about it. I use this 
> bike as my go-to, and I don't mind locking it up as the town I live in 
> isn't a hub of bike theft. If I still lived in Eugene, OR though, I'd be 
> more cautious leaving it locked up for really any period of time, and would 
> be more inclined to ride a "beater" for library trips etc. 
>
> [image: badge.JPG]
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 11:07:02 AM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>
>> It is interesting to read how much our individual situations vary. I'm 
>> lucky to live where bike theft isn't a big deal. I know one friend who had 
>> a bike stolen in the past many years. He left it unlocked on the his back 
>> porch. Then another friend spotted someone riding it on the rail trail and 
>> got it returned. I'm not meaning to minimize others situations; it sounds 
>> awful having to worry about theft all the time and having to carry bulky 
>> locks.
>>
>> I pick up strays (bikes) way too often and have been trying to get rid of 
>> extras lately, but I've kept a few beater bikes around. It is fun to ride 
>> the old Raleigh 3 speed once in a while. Until I got my Rosco Platypus I 
>> also put a lot  of time on my old mountain bikes on my daily neighborhood 
>> rides. Now the Rosco gets almost all the riding. When I finally get some 
>> wider rims (so that I can get wider tires), the Rosco can pretty much 
>> replace my mountain bikes. 
>>
>> But someone else mentioned the big, big deal for me that doesn't seem to 
>> impact most people - road salt. It is hilly here and they really cover the 
>> roads with salt. I keep at least one sacrificial bike for those days, and 
>> even then try to stay out of the resulting salt river on the roads. If it 
>> weren't for that, I'd intended my Rosco to effectively be my beater bike, 
>> plus my do-everything bike. Still, it is just fun to have some variety, 
>> though the bar for fun bikes has been raised since the Rosco arrived.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 9:25:22 AM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>>> I've often wondered how frustrating it is for Grant.  So many of his 
>>> bikes end up as garage ornaments.   I've tried to explain to interested 
>>> people that the fancy lugs and paint get our attention, but the geometry, 
>>> ride and handling are what keep us on the bikes.   My '87 Trek has nice 
>>> lugs and looks cool,