[RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Bill Fulford]

Good luck with your build. I’m in a similar situation, but mine is a 
rebuild of a 15 year old Atlantis. I already have replaced the wheels with 
Atlas rims and am on my second silver crank so I’m not going new on those. 
New Paul brake levers and Canti brakes have arrived along with ergon 
handlebar grips. New monarch pedals, nitto stem, Rivendell shifters, and 
sim works super yummy tires have been collected. Im leaning toward the 
Nitto bull bar as my reinvented Atlantis is going to be an all rounder. The 
final cabling and adjustment will probably be done by my lbs as I like a 
well tuned bike and I don’t have enough confidence in my mechanics. 
It’s been fun researching and making decisions. ~Bill
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the 
> bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while 
> thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went 
> back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but 
> it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed 
> freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the 
> Softride suspension stem was a strong pull. 
>
> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer! 
> Lol!!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>
>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've 
>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be 
>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>
>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>
>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and 
>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>
>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>
>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>
>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Bill:
Specifically, which model Nitto bull bar, clamp diameter, and width bar are you 
considering running?
I'm building an Atlantis, too. And I'm strongly considering a bull bar and 
wonder what you're on to.
Thanks,
Scott

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 06:57:32 AM MST, Bill Fulford 
 wrote:  
 
 Good luck with your build. I’m in a similar situation, but mine is a rebuild 
of a 15 year old Atlantis. I already have replaced the wheels with Atlas rims 
and am on my second silver crank so I’m not going new on those. New Paul brake 
levers and Canti brakes have arrived along with ergon handlebar grips. New 
monarch pedals, nitto stem, Rivendell shifters, and sim works super yummy tires 
have been collected. Im leaning toward the Nitto bull bar as my reinvented 
Atlantis is going to be an all rounder. The final cabling and adjustment will 
probably be done by my lbs as I like a well tuned bike and I don’t have enough 
confidence in my mechanics. 
It’s been fun researching and making decisions. ~BillOn Monday, January 16, 
2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the bike 
and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while thinking 
over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went back and 
forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but it seemed 
much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed freewheels. 
Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the Softride 
suspension stem was a strong pull. 
Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer! Lol!!!
Thanks,
Reginald Alexis

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:

I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.    I've never 
built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be a Riv.  
Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I shall. 
 Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the anticipation of 
arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be virtue.  Just one more 
box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I have a hammer around here 
somewhere.
If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and true, I 
will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
#goheavyontheboeshield







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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Bill Fulford]

Hey Scott. I went with the Nitto face plater 135 mm for the stem. The bull 
bar is 70 cm wide and it’s a 31.8 diameter. It’s the one that Rivendell 
sells. I’m hoping that it’s a great fit. ~Bill

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:30:22 AM UTC-5 Scott wrote:

> Bill:
>
> Specifically, which model Nitto bull bar, clamp diameter, and width bar 
> are you considering running?
>
> I'm building an Atlantis, too. And I'm strongly considering a bull bar and 
> wonder what you're on to.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 06:57:32 AM MST, Bill Fulford <
> bill.fu...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Good luck with your build. I’m in a similar situation, but mine is a 
> rebuild of a 15 year old Atlantis. I already have replaced the wheels with 
> Atlas rims and am on my second silver crank so I’m not going new on those. 
> New Paul brake levers and Canti brakes have arrived along with ergon 
> handlebar grips. New monarch pedals, nitto stem, Rivendell shifters, and 
> sim works super yummy tires have been collected. Im leaning toward the 
> Nitto bull bar as my reinvented Atlantis is going to be an all rounder. The 
> final cabling and adjustment will probably be done by my lbs as I like a 
> well tuned bike and I don’t have enough confidence in my mechanics. 
> It’s been fun researching and making decisions. ~Bill
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
> Congratulations How exciting when the planning and futzing over the 
> bike and parts finally come together. Any changes in parts and such while 
> thinking over the build? I know when I built the Rivendell Mountain I went 
> back and forth on several items. Thought of doing an 8 speed freewheel, but 
> it seemed much when accounting for the hub set up and scarcity of 8 speed 
> freewheels. Planned on doing a Nitto built Ritchey stem, but going with the 
> Softride suspension stem was a strong pull. 
>
> Take it slow, don't supper force anything. Take it easy with the hammer! 
> Lol!!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>
> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've never 
> built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be a 
> Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>
> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I 
> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the 
> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be 
> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I 
> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>
> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and true, 
> I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>
> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>
> #goheavyontheboeshield
>
> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: FS - 1995 Rivendell Road Frameset - 56cm - Riv Blue

[Huston]

Riv Road is sold.  Thanks for your interest.

Huston

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 2:45:05 PM UTC-5 Huston wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> For your consideration is a 56cm 1995 Rivendell Road frameset. I recently 
> posted this frameset as part of a “want to trade” listing, but that was 
> proving to be too complicated; hence, this straight up “for sale” listing.
>
> The frame measurements are as follows: seat tube 56cm c-t-c; top tube 57cm 
> c-t-c. Takes 700c wheels and 27.2mm seat post; rear spacing is 130mm.  The 
> pictured headset is not included but can be made available.  For more 
> details on the Road, please see Riv Reader #2, which Reed has kindly made 
> available here . 
>
> Photos are available here 
> .
>  
> As for condition, there is definite beausage (i.e, plenty of paint 
> blemishes). Chain stays and bottom bracket shell are the worst. But, the 
> frame is solid: no dents or issues to mention, and it rides well. Nothing 
> is hidden in the pictures. The weather and lighting have been difficult 
> here lately. The “Riv blue” is best exemplified by the pictures taken on 
> the black table.
>
> I am selling this frame for one simple reason: it is too small for me. 
> Plus, I really need to reduce the fleet to n-1.
>
> $850 plus shipping. Local pickup is welcome.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Huston
> Lexington, KY
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Parts bin cleanout: Selle Anatomica, cassettes, tires, stems, shifters, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

Price decreases: 

   - 9 speed cassette(s) unused 11-30 & 11-32: $15 each 
   - Selle Anatomica saddle X2 used: $70
   - 80mm 31.8 threadless stem(s) 17° & 7°: $15 for pair

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 5:08:07 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:

> The parts left for sale are the generic 9 speed cassettes, Threadless 
> stems, and selle saddle. 
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 4:27 PM Andrew Turner  wrote:
>
>> Good catch! I bought these on eBay a little while ago and haven't used 
>> them on a build. They do fall within the recall time period so there's some 
>> risk involved. Honestly if someone wants them for $25 which should easily 
>> cover shipping, that works for me. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:12:57 PM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:
>>
>>> I used to have that same Ritchey crank, it was pretty nice. That said, 
>>> this model was the subject of a recall - was this one's left arm replaced 
>>> as part of that?
>>> https://ritcheylogic.com/blog/wcs-and-pro-crank-voluntary-recall
>>> Might be good info to include.
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:52:46 AM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Price drops: 

- 9 speed cassette(s) unused 11-30 & 11-32: $25 each 
- Selle Anatomica saddle X2 used: $85
- 80mm 31.8 threadless stem(s) 17° & 7°: $30 for pair
- Dura-Ace 9-speed downtube shifters unused: $85
- Ritchey 110bcd crankset w/ smooth Octalink BB 50/34 175 crank 
length: $55 


 On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:

> XT cassette is sold
> RH tires, Ritchey crankset, and DA shifters are pending
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:00:25 PM UTC-6 BobW wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew. I’m interested in the crank set & BB. Please contact me 
>> off list 
>> Thanks!  Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Time to clean it out some. Below's a list of some stuff for sale. 
>> All prices include the cost of shipping. You can see pics here.  
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- 9-speed XT cassette 11-34, unused: $65
>>- 9 speed cassette(s) unused 11-30 & 11-32: $40 each 
>>- Selle Anatomica saddle X2 used: $100
>>- 80mm 31.8 threadless stem(s) 17° & 7°: $30 each
>>- Dura-Ace 9-speed downtube shifters unused: $100
>>- Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass extralight tanwall tires (pair), 
>>unknown mileage but never set up tubeless with all the tread still 
>> visible 
>>so lots of life left: $100
>>- Ritchey 110bcd crankset w/ smooth Octalink BB 50/34 175 crank 
>>length: $60 
>>
>>
>> That's it for now 
>> - Andrew
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[RBW] WTB Paul Skewers Front/Rear 100/130-135

[Jason Zakaras]

Various FS posts over the past that may or may not ended successfully 
I'm Ideally looking for a set of all black but would consider anything you 
might be parting with.

DM me if you're holding and looking to sell.

Thanks
Jason

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Re: [RBW] bottom bracket toubleshooting trivia

[Nick Payne]

I always chase and face BB shell threads before installing a bottom 
bracket. Almost universally I find there is some misalignment and/or 
distortion that the taps and facing cutters correct. Even custom frames 
from well-known builders benefit from having this done.

Ditto for the reaming of the head tube and fork crown.

Nick

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[RBW] Lightweight wheels question: J bend vs straight pull (Ritchey vs Hunt)

[Andrew Turner]

Hey there group,  

As far as pre-built, lightweight alloy wheelsets are concerned, I'm 
currently looking at 3: 
Pacenti brevet, Ritchey Zeta II classic, and Hunt but leaning towards the 
last 2. I've had experience with Ritchey's and really enjoyed them and 
their clever J-bend design, but Hunt's are better stocked. Does anyone have 
positive experience with Hunt wheels or do they lack longevity? 

I'd also be inclined to hear about your custom-built lightweight wheelset 
experiences. My goal weight is something in the 1600g range w/ skewers.  

Cheers, 
Andrew

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[RBW] Re: Lightweight wheels question: J bend vs straight pull (Ritchey vs Hunt)

[Piaw Na]

I would consider Ted Neugent's 
wheels: http://www.neugentcycling.com/Alloy-Wheels.html

The TwoX technology (16 drive side spokes, 8 non-drive side spokes so you 
can have equal tension of spokes on both sides, with washers on the 
non-drive side so you can tension them safely without the rim cracking) 
makes a lot of sense to me. I've ordered a set and will report back when I 
get some real riding experience. I build my own wheels and they're reliable 
but his approach makes sense and he has the scale to get the right parts 
drilled correctly in this case, and I can't build anything  as light.

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:18:22 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey there group,  
>
> As far as pre-built, lightweight alloy wheelsets are concerned, I'm 
> currently looking at 3: 
> Pacenti brevet, Ritchey Zeta II classic, and Hunt but leaning towards the 
> last 2. I've had experience with Ritchey's and really enjoyed them and 
> their clever J-bend design, but Hunt's are better stocked. Does anyone have 
> positive experience with Hunt wheels or do they lack longevity? 
>
> I'd also be inclined to hear about your custom-built lightweight wheelset 
> experiences. My goal weight is something in the 1600g range w/ skewers.  
>
> Cheers, 
> Andrew
>

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[RBW] Re: Lightweight wheels question: J bend vs straight pull (Ritchey vs Hunt)

[Andrew Turner]

Wow yes, these look fantastic on paper. I actually went ahead and pulled 
the trigger on a set of them so I suppose we'll both see how things go.

Thanks for the tip!!
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:44:22 PM UTC-6 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would consider Ted Neugent's wheels: 
> http://www.neugentcycling.com/Alloy-Wheels.html
>
> The TwoX technology (16 drive side spokes, 8 non-drive side spokes so you 
> can have equal tension of spokes on both sides, with washers on the 
> non-drive side so you can tension them safely without the rim cracking) 
> makes a lot of sense to me. I've ordered a set and will report back when I 
> get some real riding experience. I build my own wheels and they're reliable 
> but his approach makes sense and he has the scale to get the right parts 
> drilled correctly in this case, and I can't build anything  as light.
>
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:18:22 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey there group,  
>>
>> As far as pre-built, lightweight alloy wheelsets are concerned, I'm 
>> currently looking at 3: 
>> Pacenti brevet, Ritchey Zeta II classic, and Hunt but leaning towards the 
>> last 2. I've had experience with Ritchey's and really enjoyed them and 
>> their clever J-bend design, but Hunt's are better stocked. Does anyone have 
>> positive experience with Hunt wheels or do they lack longevity? 
>>
>> I'd also be inclined to hear about your custom-built lightweight wheelset 
>> experiences. My goal weight is something in the 1600g range w/ skewers.  
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Andrew
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Clem H 59cm Complete (Custom Build)

[Daniel]

Selling my Clem H to declutter my garage (AKA my office). It's latest build 
(where it got its least mileage) is as a trail bike and that's redundant 
for me.

The size is 59cm which I measured as the following:
Seattube (CTC):58cm
Toptube (CTC):63cm
Chainstays:56cm
Headtube:21.75cm
HTA:72⁰
STA:72⁰
TT Slope:4⁰

This is an earlier green "H" with the cool swoopy seatstays build up 8 
speed as follows:
Mech - rear:Deore XT
Mech - front:Deore XT
Crank:Suntour XC Pro
Bars:Nitto Bullmoose w/ Newbaums tape and ESI silicon grips
Brakes:Deore XT (black) v-brake
Brake Levers:Deore XT
Shifters:Suntour (mounted under the bars)…working OK but some slipping, 
so I didn't trim the cables yet…you might prefer different shifters or 
other positions.
Seatpost:OEM
Headset:Tange (original)
Rims:Velocity Cliffhangers
Hubs:Shimano Non-Series (FH-RS300 front / HB-T3000 rear)
Tires:Conti 29 x 2.6" (maxed out for this frame!) set up tubeless with 
Orange Seal

Note: saddle, waterbottle cages, pedals, reflector triangle, trail bell and 
any other accessories photographed are not included.

Pictures here . Shown with 
82cm saddle height.

Price: $2k shipped in the lower 48. Other locations, please contact me. 
Discount for SoCal (LA/OC/IE/SD) buyer since I won't have to pack and ship.

Want to buy or questions? Please email me off list.

Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA (Orange County)

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[RBW] Re: Lightweight wheels question: J bend vs straight pull (Ritchey vs Hunt)

[Will Boericke]

DT Swiss 240 to a 450g rim (Archetype, DT 450, Kinlin TL-21, etc) all day 
long.  I own 2 sets of these - bombproof and light.  All parts can be 
easily found (no proprietary badged hubs that you need bearings for 10 
years down the road and cannot find).  J-bend spokes for the win.  ERD of 
the standard 22mm deep 450g rim is pretty constant (in the 597 range), so 
when it dies you can replace easily.  You could go fewer spokes to save 
some grams, but unlikely you'd regret 32.  

Alternatively, I have a set of Bitex hubs to older Pacenti SL23s that 
definitely make that weight cut and have been low-maintenance (well, THOSE 
Pacenti rims were okay; the ones on my cross bike were not).  But I like 
DTs freehub design better.

I would avoid a straight pull hubset because they're a little more finicky 
to work with down the road, but not a deal breaker.  I'm about to lace one 
up for my fatbike but that's because it was a deal.

Will

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 6:44:42 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> Here's pair I built myself - Newmen Fade 28h thru axle hubs, Light Bicycle 
> AR28 (22mm internal width) rims, Sapim CX-Ray straight pull spokes. Weight 
> 1380g. They've been perfectly reliable and have remained dead true in the 
> 18 months I've been riding them. All-up cost of the parts was about $AU900 
> (~$US600).
> [image: PXL_20210608_022518518.jpg]
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> [image: PXL_20210608_022635313.jpg]
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: MUSA Shorts, Coyote/khaki color, size medium

[James]

Going to bump this one time

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:39:34 AM UTC-5 James wrote:

> Hoping someone has a new or used pair of these shorts laying around that 
> they would consider selling to me for the right price.  Not interested in 
> the black or ranger green.  Happy new year

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[RBW] Cutting tnreadless steer tube

[Richard Rose]

Perhaps a question for Gus owners only? Is there a consensus on cutting 
down steering tubes? My Bosco bar will arrive in a day or two & I 
anticipate I will end up with a lot of extra steerer. How much is too much 
above the stem once the fit is dialed in? Not just an aesthetic issue but a 
practical one as well.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting tnreadless steer tube

[Ed Carolipio]

Unknown if there's a consensus but I personally cut the steerer so I can 
install a spacer above the stem. That allows the stem cap to compress 
against the spacer on assembly instead of the stem. Rule-of-thumb for me is 
at least a 10mm spacer. I have a 20mm spacer now on my Gus with a Tosco 
handlebar.

--Ed C.

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:40:41 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Perhaps a question for Gus owners only? Is there a consensus on cutting 
> down steering tubes? My Bosco bar will arrive in a day or two & I 
> anticipate I will end up with a lot of extra steerer. How much is too much 
> above the stem once the fit is dialed in? Not just an aesthetic issue but a 
> practical one as well.

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[RBW] WTB: Shimano cx70 cantilevers

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Anyone holding? Please send PM - thanks!

Jeff

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[RBW] Re: Cutting tnreadless steer tube

[Joe Bernard]

Ed's solution is probably a good guideline. I would add to not be in a 
hurry to cut it, you may ride it for a while and realize Boscos aren't your 
thing and will need extra steerer for a lower bar. I would put a bunch of 
spacers on top and let it be weird for a couple months! 

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:40:41 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Perhaps a question for Gus owners only? Is there a consensus on cutting 
> down steering tubes? My Bosco bar will arrive in a day or two & I 
> anticipate I will end up with a lot of extra steerer. How much is too much 
> above the stem once the fit is dialed in? Not just an aesthetic issue but a 
> practical one as well.

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[RBW] Re: Tanaka 68mm fenders on a Joe Appa?

[Nick Payne]

They're not going to fit through the fork without a bit of work to narrow 
them where they pass through. I have the VO 63mm fenders on my Appaloosa 
(they actually measure 63.5mm), and there's only a fraction of a millimetre 
clearance each side where they pass between the fork blades - I fitted 
plastic frame protector dots on the inside of the fork blades each side to 
prevent the paint being worn off by the fender.

The rear should fit OK, but it will probably need an indentation on the 
drive side just above the chainstay to clear the chain when in your lowest 
gear. The VO 63mm fenders come with this indentation already done, but 
looking at the Tanaka fenders on the Soma website, I couldn't see that they 
are similarly treated.

Nick

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