Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[brendonoid]

The tyranny of distance keeps me financially solvent.

On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 09:47, Eric Marth  wrote:

> Brendon, I'd say you've managed pretty well! And maybe the oceans are a
> moderating force against your prolific collection.
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 10:16:53 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> A Saluki in my size and favourite colour. A rare thing indeed.
>> Sometimes I really hate being on the other side of the world to all these
>> perfect bicycles.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Rivendell Roadini 50cm - $1000

[Ed Carolipio]

Hey Chester thanks for the kind words: I'm just trying to pay forward the 
knowledge and sense of community that the members of this group have given 
me over the years. And, as I said, I became a super paranoid bike packer 
after reading horror stories here and on iBob. I'm glad the Roadini made it 
to you okay, and I hope it serves you well on this next step of your bike 
journey.

--Ed C.
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:31:30 AM UTC-7 Chester wrote:

> I'm the new owner and got the Roadini yesterday. Assembled it last night 
> and took it for a very short spin just now.
>
> I want to say thanks to Ed for being an almost ridiculous paragon of 
> awesome throughout the whole deal. I had written him an e-mail just in case 
> "sale on hold pending discussions" meant that a sale to someone else was 
> not going to go through. As it turned out, it fell through and Ed wrote me 
> back to ask me if I was still interested. Yup!
>
> I didn't really have questions, but was chatty, and Ed was indulging about 
> that and very generous and thoughtful about giving me notes on things he 
> thought I ought to know or anticipate, such as the stem maybe being too 
> short. He also generously instructed me to pay with Paypal Goods and 
> Services, which would offer some buyer protection, but given how public and 
> profuse his profile is on this group and on the Internet, I felt totally 
> comfortable paying him Friends and Family and saving him from paying a vig 
> to Paypal. 
>
> I sent payment in the middle of the night and Ed still had the bike 
> dropped off for shipment to me the next day. I received it two days later 
> and I want to share some pictures of his packing job, which was simply 
> breathtaking. You may think that a bicycle packing job is mundane and 
> cannot be breathtaking, but if you think that, you're wrong:
>
> https://imgur.com/a/NZUIGJU
>
> I feel like I swaddled my children when they were babies with less care 
> and certainly less diligence.
>
> Thanks for everything, Ed! 
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 11:23:54 AM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Bike is sold and on its way to its new owner.
>>
>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> Sale on hold pending discussions.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I love everything about this bike. The crankset is beautiful. And such 
 a killer price. I want to buy it just because but I really can't get 
 another bike right now. Someone is going to be really happy with this.

 On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 3:22:17 PM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Bought new from the first batch of Roadinis, ridden a few hundred 
> miles. Frame is in good condition with a handful of scratches but no 
> dents. 
> Wheelset was built by Rich (Hands on Wheels). Note this frame version 
> uses 
> the mid-reach brakes and has a max tire width of ~35mm without fenders. 
> PBH 
> range is 77cm - 83cm.
>
> Build List
>
>
>- Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6800
>- Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore M591
>- Cassette: Shimano (?) 11-34
>- Chain: KMC X.9
>- Crankset: Velo Orange Grand Cru 46/30 50.4 BCD
>- Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN-55 BB
>- Stem: Nitto Technomic 50mm
>- Headset: 
>- Handlebar: Nitto Noodle 46cm
>- Shifter: Silver1 Downtube Shifters
>- Brakes: Shimano BR-R451 w/ Ultegra Brake Holders and Pads
>- Brake Levers: Shimano BL-R400
>- Seatpost: 
>- Hubs: Shimano 105 32h/32h
>- Rims: Velocity A23 Front/A23 OC Rear
>- Spokes: DT Swiss Comp
>- Tires: Compass Stampede Pass (700c x 32)
>- Skewers: Salsa Flip Off
>
>
> $1000 for complete plus shipping via Bikeflights from 90278. 
> Preference is to sell as a complete. Can also do a pickup in the area - 
> South Bay Beach Cities (Torrance/Redondo Beach/El Segundo).
>
> Photos available here: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GpMiabU5SsESsixwst-TVUdXELEOxO94?usp=sharing
>
> Rivendell Geometry Chart: 
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-500-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416
>
> Contact me off list if you have questions or are interested.
>
> --Ed C.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Bill Rhea]

Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this beautiful tandem go!  I have 
an orange size M HHH also, and I really hope to never have to sell it 
because Leslie really enjoys our little outings on it.  I also had an Ibis 
Cousin IT for years but this one rides better, IMO.

I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence and pull the trigger on 
this screaming deal already (yeah, you know who you are)

Cheers,

-br

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>
>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>>
>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time for 
>> summer :)
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>
 *BUMP*


 *$3,500*
 On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:

> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>
>
> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>
>> *Price drop!*
>>
>>
>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>
>>> Weekend bump!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
 Hey group,

 This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending 
 upcoming move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.

 I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm getting 
 it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.

 Specs:

 Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
 Stock Headset
 Stock Seatpost
 Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
 Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
 MKS XC-III Pedals
 Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
 Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
 Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
 Silver Rear Friction Shifter
 Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
 Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
 Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
 Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
 Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
 Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
 Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
 Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
 ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
 WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
 Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
 Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
 Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes

 Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
 deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.

 Asking $4,000.

 Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm home!

 Thanks :)

 Jared in SLO, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[George Schick]

Eric - I've viewed the photo of your Cyclone GT as closely as possible.  It 
appears to be completely identical to the short cage Cyclone that I have 
available, the only difference being the lengths of the derailler cages.  
Therefore, if you can't get that spring fix to work the simplest repair 
would be to use the derailler I have and just change out the short cage for 
the long one on yours.  The advantage these Sun Tour deraillers have over 
some other makes is that the cage arm fastens directly to the spring body 
vs. having the spring assembly bolting to the jockey wheel.  You can have 
mine just for the asking if you decide to go that route.
George


On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 8:45:23 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks all! I have heard from several people now, here and outside the 
> forum, who have suggested bending a new tab. I saved the spring so I'll 
> give that a try. 
>
> Drew: As far as I know the Suntour Cyclone Mark 1 short and long cage used 
> the same cage tension spring. I'm not sure if the ARX, XC or other mechs 
> would have a compatible spring. So I'll pass on those, but if you find a 
> Mark 1 short or long cage, I'm interested! 
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 4:30:27 PM UTC-4 dblue...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Like Reginald suggested, I bent a new tab onto the end of one of those 
>> springs a year or two ago. It has held up so far, but the derailer is only 
>> in use as a tensioner on a dinglespeed. Getting the bend angled so that it 
>> would go back together correctly was a little bit of a nuisance, but if 
>> nobody has an intact derailer for you, give it a try.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:04:49 AM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder if you can bend a new tab on the end of that spring to make it 
>>> work? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the 
 chain tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 

 If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
 price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 

 Thank you!

 Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. 
 I even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 

 [image: cyclone1.png]

 [image: cyclone2.png]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Eric Marth]

Brendon, I'd say you've managed pretty well! And maybe the oceans are a 
moderating force against your prolific collection. 

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 10:16:53 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> A Saluki in my size and favourite colour. A rare thing indeed.
> Sometimes I really hate being on the other side of the world to all these 
> perfect bicycles.
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[Eric Marth]

Thanks all! I have heard from several people now, here and outside the 
forum, who have suggested bending a new tab. I saved the spring so I'll 
give that a try. 

Drew: As far as I know the Suntour Cyclone Mark 1 short and long cage used 
the same cage tension spring. I'm not sure if the ARX, XC or other mechs 
would have a compatible spring. So I'll pass on those, but if you find a 
Mark 1 short or long cage, I'm interested! 

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 4:30:27 PM UTC-4 dblue...@gmail.com wrote:

> Like Reginald suggested, I bent a new tab onto the end of one of those 
> springs a year or two ago. It has held up so far, but the derailer is only 
> in use as a tensioner on a dinglespeed. Getting the bend angled so that it 
> would go back together correctly was a little bit of a nuisance, but if 
> nobody has an intact derailer for you, give it a try.
>
> Dan
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:04:49 AM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Wonder if you can bend a new tab on the end of that spring to make it 
>> work? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the chain 
>>> tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 
>>>
>>> If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
>>> price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. I 
>>> even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 
>>>
>>> [image: cyclone1.png]
>>>
>>> [image: cyclone2.png]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Panniers, Swift, Nitto, Bar Ends

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the emails, Eliot and Evan! Sorry for the slow reply. I'll pass 
on this beauty of a Cyclone but someone should definitely nab it! 

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:14:36 AM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I offered it to him this morning and didn’t hear back. Will let you know 
> if he passes. 
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 9:01 PM Evan E.  wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot,
>>
>> Eric Marth of this list is on the hunt for a Cyclone GT. If he doesn’t 
>> want it, please place me second in the queue and let me know. 
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Evan E.
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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Guys! Guys! Guys!
https://www.rivbike.com/products/seat-post-ird-wayback?_pos=4&_psq=ird&_ss=e&_v=1.0&mc_cid=7e477e2831&mc_eid=cad714b71d

They fixed this rotten seat post and made it good! I just ordered one 
because it is the ONLY thing I would change about my Platypus.
Leah

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 4:52:59 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just to point any new readers to the longer discussion of long setback 
> 26.8 posts and other workarounds we had recently: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/7w-LvB64bdo/m/6_3-7tnZCQAJ
>
> Paul: Let us know how your friend likes that seatpost. I could never get 
> mine to bite. And I believe it's IRD, rather than IRC, for Interloc Racing 
> Design. 
>
> I'm still tempted by reaming for a 27.2 though I'm getting more used to 
> the bike. 
>
> Johnny: Every body is different and Grant/Rivendell developed the Nitto 
> S84 for people who like lots of setback. I run the MTE-100 on my Appaloosa. 
> It has more setback than I need but, as we discussed in the other thread, 
> finding a 26.8 post with lots of setback is quite difficult 
>
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 6:01:05 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Wow! If someone needs that much setback I would think they have the wrong 
>> sized frame.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 4:29:30 PM UTC-4 Craig Montgomery wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256074774748?hash=item3b9f3ef8dc:g:RhEAAOSws0hkX-AT&amdata=enc%3AAQAI4DfCiOEnjCvHhEU4bvqRDReTJ0m362omPlZff140MwozY6egewAqxLbY%2FCM6cb3VeqAQUy1E3FHBSP66Cwkpj3b70sLwAY1HVQ3i6pKXBI27s7mFCpliMiV1OQUJraR1uxiGX6UxJlKwM3peUVy7UNEYMQVYZdITGOb6NM5jP2aBScDUF57hz0dfJwKshD70UPj2azpERnKdgTN%2BBLL%2FRdn9mYJSfK%2B8UiFINCeK4R5LchB6MLQUqE2pNuQdmCFoKuT%2BztFW3jVjct%2BHBt9Xv0uS9OQ10PPShHnPCl3UihQU%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6LVwq2HYg
>>>
>>> Another option
>>> Craig in Tucson
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>


 I was recently talking with a friend here in the area also looking for 
 a 26.8 set post with more set back for his Roadini.

 He decided to have Rivbike order the IRC one for him some have had 
 issues with because he heard a Rivendell employee recently had tried one 
 and had no issues because IRC had resolved the issue with a thicker 
 serrated washer.

 He said he would report back after trying it.

 Personally I would consult with an experienced frame builder about 
 reaming out a seat tube especially with an expensive frame and have an 
 expert builder donut if I went that route.

 I might've tempted to try it on a $50 Craiglist bike but not a nice 
 bike I loved.

 Safe riding to all.

 Paul in Dallas 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Underbiking

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I ride Tektro 559s with my AHH and with my former 650b Ram.  I also think
they are great brakes.  I ride on fire trails and some single track, but in
no way would beat mountain bikers going down hill.  I can't say I remember
letting it fly too much except down Old Springs Trail near Tennessee Valley
Rd in the Marin Headlands.  Not particularly rocky or rooty, but fun going
fast on a road bike.

I used Salsa Woodchippers (extreme flare) for quite a while and was able to
set up nice hood and drop positions and rode several doubles with it.

Toshi


On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:59 PM Piaw Na  wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:40:30 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> What size are the tires on the Roadini? I seem to recall reading that that
> frame can take 42s?
>
>
> I'm using Continental Terraspeed 40s, which actually measure 38. There's
> more room, but I didn't want to run at the absolute limit --- I would run a
> true 40mm but not a 42.
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Re: [RBW] Please Join us: Riv Ride, Yankee Springs in Hastings, Michigan

[Leah Peterson]

I can’t wait to meet you, Mike!Sent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2023, at 8:40 PM, CapNMike  wrote:Leah and Marc,Thanks for putting this Unofficial Gathering together. I'm looking forward to a great ride and social time. See you Saturday!-MikeOn Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 11:57:19 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Mount Calvary Cemetery to 102 S Broadway Stgoogle.comHere is the route for our Unofficial Riv Ride on Saturday. Join us at 1030 for a sunny ride in Michigan’s scenic countryside. Followed by food and drinks at Waldorff’s. Can’t wait to see you! Respond if you are coming, just so we have an idea about party size.Thanks!LeahOn May 20, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Reminder: one week from today is our Riv Ride! Ready the Rivendells, pack them up and bring to them for a ride through Yankee Springs Recreation Area!Date: May 27Time: 1030Place: Park at Waldorff’s in Hastings, MichiganWhat: 35-40 mile route on gravel roads in Yankee SpringsJoin us afterwards for food and drinks at Waldorff’s Brewpub. Can’t wait to see you all!Leah and MarcOn May 9, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:That is always something to consider there.  We will only be riding 6 miles on paved secondary roads, the rest will be gravel.  The main traffic concerns in the area are around Gun Lake and Chief Noonday road which we will be avoiding.   I did a solo trip last year on that weekend and had no problems at all.MarcOn Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 9:15:52 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:Y'all may want to keep in mind that's Memorial Day weekend.  Not sure how crowded the roads around Hastings and the Yankee Springs Recreation Area get during the year's first big holiday, but things might get a little dicey.On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 8:06:54 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Hi Friends,The storms forecast for the weekend are going to force us to reschedule the ride. We needed to give ample time for those who are joining us from out of the area to prepare.Instead of Saturday 13th, the ride will now be Saturday, May 27th, 10:30 am. We are excited to see you then.Leah and MarcOn May 5, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Reminder: Next Saturday is our first Unofficial Riv Ride of the season! If you plan to come, I’d love to know who we’re expecting ahead of time. You can say so in the comments. I can’t wait to see you and your beautiful bikes.———Hi Riv Friends,Spring is here and it is time to announce our first Michigan Riv Ride of the season. Bring your favorite Rivendell to downtown Hastings, Michigan (parking lot behind Waldorff’s) on May 13th at 10:30 am for a ride with other Riv owners. We have a 35-40 mile route planned through beautiful Yankee Springs, and will end where we began, in downtown Hastings. Join us at the lovely Waldorff Brewpub where we will convene after, for food and drinks. https://www.walldorffbrewpub.com/storyThe road is gravel, so consider that when choosing what tires you’re running. If we get rained out, the ride will be rescheduled for May 27th, same time. This ride is not affiliated with Rivendell Bicycle Works; it is a meeting of like-minded riders who will probably ride Rivs. Ride at your own risk.We are so excited to see you there! Leah Peterson and Marc IrwinSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 22, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:I was thinking Yankee Springs? I am thinking of driving over on Friday to ride the trail & camp @ Yankee? Short drive to Hastings Saturday morning.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 22, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:There is a nice single track course near the Deep Lake rustic campground.  It's one of my favorite destinations for a weekend out of the house.MarcOn Friday, April 21, 2023 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Not only does this ride sound like a blast, but it also affords the opportunity to ride some nearby singletrack. Might have to make a weekend out of this one.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 21, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:Hi Riv Friends,Spring is here and it is time to announce our first Michigan Riv Ride. Bring your favorite Rivendell to downtown Hastings, Michigan (parking lot to be determined) on May 13th at 10:30 am for a ride with other Riv owners. We have a 35-40 mile route planned through beautiful Yankee Springs, and will end where we began, in downtown Hastings. Join us at the lovely Waldorff Brewpub where we will convene after for food and drinks. https://www.walldorffbrewpub.com/storyThe road is gravel, so consider that when choosing what tires you’re running. If we get rained out, the ride will be rescheduled for May 27th, same time. This ride is not affiliated with Rivendell Bicycle Works; it is a meeting of like-minded riders who will probably ride Rivs. Ride at your own risk.We are so excited to see you there! Leah Peterson and Marc Irwin



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Re: [RBW] Please Join us: Riv Ride, Yankee Springs in Hastings, Michigan

[CapNMike]

Leah and Marc,
Thanks for putting this Unofficial Gathering together. I'm looking forward 
to a great ride and social time. See you Saturday!
-Mike

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 11:57:19 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: staticmap.png]
>
> Mount Calvary Cemetery to 102 S Broadway St 
> 
> google.com 
> 
>
> 
>
> Here is the route for our Unofficial Riv Ride on Saturday. Join us at 1030 
> for a sunny ride in Michigan’s scenic countryside. Followed by food and 
> drinks at Waldorff’s.
>
>  Can’t wait to see you! Respond if you are coming, just so we have an idea 
> about party size.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
>
> On May 20, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Reminder: one week from today is our Riv Ride! Ready the Rivendells, pack 
> them up and bring to them for a ride through Yankee Springs Recreation Area!
>
> Date: May 27
> Time: 1030
> Place: Park at Waldorff’s in Hastings, Michigan
> What: 35-40 mile route on gravel roads in Yankee Springs
>
> Join us afterwards for food and drinks at Waldorff’s Brewpub. 
>
> Can’t wait to see you all!
> Leah and Marc
>
> On May 9, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:
>
> That is always something to consider there.  We will only be riding 6 
> miles on paved secondary roads, the rest will be gravel.  The main traffic 
> concerns in the area are around Gun Lake and Chief Noonday road which we 
> will be avoiding.   I did a solo trip last year on that weekend and had no 
> problems at all.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 9:15:52 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Y'all may want to keep in mind that's Memorial Day weekend.  Not sure how 
>> crowded the roads around Hastings and the Yankee Springs Recreation Area 
>> get during the year's first big holiday, but things might get a little 
>> dicey.
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 8:06:54 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> The storms forecast for the weekend are going to force us to reschedule 
>>> the ride. We needed to give ample time for those who are joining us from 
>>> out of the area to prepare.
>>>
>>> Instead of Saturday 13th, the ride will now be Saturday, May 27th, 10:30 
>>> am. 
>>>
>>> We are excited to see you then.
>>> Leah and Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 5, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Reminder: Next Saturday is our first Unofficial Riv Ride of the season! 
>>> If you plan to come, I’d love to know who we’re expecting ahead of time. 
>>> You can say so in the comments. 
>>>
>>> I can’t wait to see you and your beautiful bikes.
>>> ———
>>>
>>> Hi Riv Friends,
>>>
>>> Spring is here and it is time to announce our first Michigan Riv Ride of 
>>> the season. 
>>>
>>> Bring your favorite Rivendell to downtown Hastings, Michigan (parking 
>>> lot behind Waldorff’s) on May 13th at 10:30 am for a ride with other Riv 
>>> owners. We have a 35-40 mile route planned through beautiful Yankee 
>>> Springs, and will end where we began, in downtown Hastings. Join us at the 
>>> lovely Waldorff Brewpub where we will convene after, for food and drinks. 
>>> https://www.walldorffbrewpub.com/story
>>>
>>> The road is gravel, so consider that when choosing what tires you’re 
>>> running. If we get rained out, the ride will be rescheduled for May 27th, 
>>> same time. This ride is not affiliated with Rivendell Bicycle Works; it is 
>>> a meeting of like-minded riders who will probably ride Rivs. Ride at your 
>>> own risk.
>>>
>>> We are so excited to see you there! 
>>> Leah Peterson and Marc Irwin
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
>>> I was thinking Yankee Springs? I am thinking of driving over on Friday 
>>> to ride the trail & camp @ Yankee? Short drive to Hastings Saturday morning.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a nice single track course near the Deep Lake rustic 
>>> campground.  It's one of my favorite destinations for a weekend out of the 
>>> house.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> O

Re: [RBW] Plea for help with photos

[Richard Rose]

Permit me to try this. I had an existing album in my Google photos app. I was able to “copy link” & paste it here; can you see it?Gus!app.goo.glSent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2023, at 3:50 PM, John Bokman  wrote:rmmose:Thanks for the thoughts. In my case, I create a link to my album but can't share it because my phone (apple) doesn't recognize the riv owners bunch. As in, it is not listed in my contacts, even though I added it to my contacts. Make sense? Sort of?JohnOn Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Hi John. That is what I do. I create a Google photo album and then paste a link to that album. A bigger frustration for me is not being able to create a new post or “conversation” from my phone. I am sure there is a good reason for this but I don’t get it.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2023, at 1:30 PM, John Bokman  wrote:Hi Rivsters.I'm soliciting help in attaching photos to messages. In the past I have used the paperclip to attach singular photos from my computer.Now, I'm thinking it should, theoretically, be easier to attach multiple pictures by using google photos (which I've just installed on my apple phone). I am under the impression I can create a link to my album (selected photos only of course) and then "share" the link to the group members.Am I getting this right? Any recommendations before I proceed further?Thanks all.John



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Re: [RBW] Lightweight chi-chi saddlebag of about 9 liters / 61 ci

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a Loyal rando bag on one of my Alex Singers. Very nice quality on par 
with the pricier French bag I have on another bike. I like Loyal’s closures, 
which are easier to use than the fiddly ones on my French bag.

--Eric Norris
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> On May 24, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Peter Adler  wrote:
> 
> Phil Woosley of Loyal Bags in Richmond CA is another Bay Area option. He's a 
> long-time shop rat; formerly at the late lamented Missing Link and now at 
> Blue Heron in Berkeley. He was Bruce Gordon's last bag maker, for about a 
> decade before Bruce shut down operations; you may recall a recent thread on 
> CR about Phil doing some bags forJim Merz.
> 
> I've got an early example of Phil's handlebar bag, acquired from an 
> iBOBer/RBWer few years back. It's quite shrewdly designed - larger at the 
> bottom than at the top, it directs the weight further downward in the bag 
> where it should be. I took it around to Phil at Blue Heron when I got 
> squeamish about forcing one of the non-rectangular delrin stiffeners into the 
> pocket sewn in on the inside; he was pleased to see that one of his old bags 
> was still kicking around, especially since his bags carry a lifetime 
> warranty. No warranty service needed here!
> 
> Phil works primarily in waxed canvas and leather, but his site used to 
> feature images of bags in modern ultralight (ahem) petrochemically-derived 
> materials. He's not really a web store guy; you're best off emailing/phoning 
> and talking to him about what you're looking for.
> 
> Peter "very satisfied second-hand customer" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
> 
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:39:13 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
> Thanks all for the suggestions. I'll check them all. Actually, I did check 
> Ruthworks since I've owned at least 3 of his seat wedges -- yes, very well 
> made -- but he is no longer making customs and he doesn't have a saddlebag in 
> his product line.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Ben Adrian]

Looking forward to it, though I am Riv-less at the moment. The Riv-minded, 
party pace ride :)

Ben

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:27:46 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm planning to join! 
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:18:23 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, I'll have to pass.  More climbing than I'm in shape for at 
>> this time.
>>
>> David/Thousand Oaks/2015 Hillborne
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7 Brian Cunningham wrote:
>>
>>> Great! Looking for to it. Looks like a perfect 71 degree day is in store 
>>> for us. The 9am start seems like a good balance. Early enough but not too 
>>> early. Admittedly the starting point is only a 30 min ride from my place.
>>>
>>> Brian/Glendale/2015 Hillborne
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our 
 LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. 
 Originally, 
 the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in 
 some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back 
 to the og time, just LMK.

 *As a reminder, here are the details:*

 When: 9 AM 
 Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, 
 Los Angeles, CA 90027
 Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 
 1k ft. of climbing

 Optional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of 
 Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks 
 who want to do some more climbing!

 -Houston

 On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single 
> scoop" for the LA Invitational. 
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person  
> wrote:
>
>> I've marked my calendar.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: RBWLAMeetup.jpg]
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
 Hi y'all,

 Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 
 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust 
 specifics 
 closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of 
 the 
 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across 
 from 
 the Greek at 8 am. 

 Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that 
 weekend...it looks so sick! 

 So excited to meet everyone! 

 -Houston

 On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but 
> wanted rep the set.
>
> For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles 
> Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21 
> . John Prolly's write 
> 2022 write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA Invitational 
> 
> I signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot 
> at the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap 
> is 
> really good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end 
> items.
> -Matt
>
> [image: losangelesinvitational.jpg]
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart 
> wrote:
>
>> @isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from 
>> meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. 
>> Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since 
>> there 
>> are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.
>>
>> @bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a 
>> great location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and 
>> happened 
>> upon the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the 
>> family 
>> in the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the 
>> handlebar setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno 
>> frames 
>> come out.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 
>> cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 
>>>
>>> David 
>>> Black & Tan Sam
>>> Thousand Oaks
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Bryce Dwyer]

I'm planning to join! 

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:18:23 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Unfortunately, I'll have to pass.  More climbing than I'm in shape for at 
> this time.
>
> David/Thousand Oaks/2015 Hillborne
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7 Brian Cunningham wrote:
>
>> Great! Looking for to it. Looks like a perfect 71 degree day is in store 
>> for us. The 9am start seems like a good balance. Early enough but not too 
>> early. Admittedly the starting point is only a 30 min ride from my place.
>>
>> Brian/Glendale/2015 Hillborne
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA 
>>> Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, 
>>> the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in 
>>> some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back 
>>> to the og time, just LMK.
>>>
>>> *As a reminder, here are the details:*
>>>
>>> When: 9 AM 
>>> Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los 
>>> Angeles, CA 90027
>>> Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 
>>> 1k ft. of climbing
>>>
>>> Optional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of 
>>> Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks 
>>> who want to do some more climbing!
>>>
>>> -Houston
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single 
 scoop" for the LA Invitational. 

 On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person  
 wrote:

> I've marked my calendar.
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>
>> [image: RBWLAMeetup.jpg]
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi y'all,
>>>
>>> Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 
>>> 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust 
>>> specifics 
>>> closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 
>>> 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across 
>>> from 
>>> the Greek at 8 am. 
>>>
>>> Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that 
>>> weekend...it looks so sick! 
>>>
>>> So excited to meet everyone! 
>>>
>>> -Houston
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted 
 rep the set.

 For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles 
 Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21 
 . John Prolly's write 
 2022 write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA Invitational 
 
 I signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at 
 the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is 
 really 
 good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.
 -Matt

 [image: losangelesinvitational.jpg]
 On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart 
 wrote:

> @isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from 
> meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. 
> Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since 
> there 
> are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.
>
> @bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a 
> great location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and 
> happened 
> upon the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the 
> family 
> in the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the 
> handlebar setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno 
> frames 
> come out.
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 
> cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 
>>
>> David 
>> Black & Tan Sam
>> Thousand Oaks
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 
>> dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could 
>>> likely make the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.
>>>
>>> Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was 
>>> your parked orange Riv at th

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[David Person]

Unfortunately, I'll have to pass.  More climbing than I'm in shape for at 
this time.

David/Thousand Oaks/2015 Hillborne

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7 Brian Cunningham wrote:

> Great! Looking for to it. Looks like a perfect 71 degree day is in store 
> for us. The 9am start seems like a good balance. Early enough but not too 
> early. Admittedly the starting point is only a 30 min ride from my place.
>
> Brian/Glendale/2015 Hillborne
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA 
>> Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, 
>> the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in 
>> some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back 
>> to the og time, just LMK.
>>
>> *As a reminder, here are the details:*
>>
>> When: 9 AM 
>> Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los 
>> Angeles, CA 90027
>> Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 
>> 1k ft. of climbing
>>
>> Optional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of 
>> Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks 
>> who want to do some more climbing!
>>
>> -Houston
>>
>> On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single 
>>> scoop" for the LA Invitational. 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person  wrote:
>>>
 I've marked my calendar.

 On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:

> [image: RBWLAMeetup.jpg]
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>
>> Hi y'all,
>>
>> Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 
>> 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust 
>> specifics 
>> closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 
>> 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across 
>> from 
>> the Greek at 8 am. 
>>
>> Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that 
>> weekend...it looks so sick! 
>>
>> So excited to meet everyone! 
>>
>> -Houston
>>
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted 
>>> rep the set.
>>>
>>> For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles 
>>> Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21 
>>> . John Prolly's write 2022 
>>> write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA Invitational 
>>> 
>>> I signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at 
>>> the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is 
>>> really 
>>> good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> [image: losangelesinvitational.jpg]
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>>
 @isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from 
 meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. 
 Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since 
 there 
 are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.

 @bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a great 
 location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and happened 
 upon 
 the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the family 
 in 
 the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the 
 handlebar 
 setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno frames come 
 out.

 On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 
>
> David 
> Black & Tan Sam
> Thousand Oaks
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 
> dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could 
>> likely make the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.
>>
>> Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was 
>> your parked orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a 
>> coincidence!
>>
>> The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some 
>> great payoff! I usually just take a break or two on my way up.
>> On 

[RBW] Re: Lightweight chi-chi saddlebag of about 9 liters / 61 ci

[Peter Adler]

Phil Woosley of Loyal Bags in Richmond CA is another Bay Area option. He's 
a long-time shop rat; formerly at the late lamented Missing Link and now at 
Blue Heron in Berkeley. He was Bruce Gordon's last bag maker, for about a 
decade before Bruce shut down operations; you may recall a recent thread on 
CR about Phil doing some bags forJim Merz.

I've got an early example of Phil's handlebar bag, acquired from an 
iBOBer/RBWer few years back. It's quite shrewdly designed - larger at the 
bottom than at the top, it directs the weight further downward in the bag 
where it should be. I took it around to Phil at Blue Heron when I got 
squeamish about forcing one of the non-rectangular delrin stiffeners into 
the pocket sewn in on the inside; he was pleased to see that one of his old 
bags was still kicking around, especially since his bags carry a lifetime 
warranty. No warranty service needed here!

Phil works primarily in waxed canvas and leather, but his site used to 
feature images of bags in modern ultralight (ahem) *petrochemically-derived* 
materials. He's not really a web store guy; you're best off 
emailing/phoning and talking to him about what you're looking for.

Peter "very satisfied second-hand customer" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:39:13 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

Thanks all for the suggestions. I'll check them all. Actually, I did check 
Ruthworks since I've owned at least 3 of his seat wedges -- yes, very well 
made -- but he is no longer making customs and he doesn't have a saddlebag 
in his product line.

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[RBW] Bike Snob, moral counselor

[Patrick Moore]

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/bike-lane-obstruction/

Grant likes BS and Rivendell is a regular advertiser on the site, so there.

Like George Orwell, non-believing socialist who nonetheless possessed a
truly acute sense of truth*, I have to say that BSNYC, as profane and
irreverent as he is, very often speaks the Voice of Reason to the cycling
world.

I'm someone who all too readily gets charged up and indignant about real or
imagined violations of my rights, and this post is a very good call back to
reality.

* I was reading a review of a new bio t'other day, and came across this,
significant because it indicates that he was, at least in his own small
way, a "mahatama," a "great soul" (Lincoln was another) who could subject
his ego to a greater truth or reality -- I've long thought that this is the
basic precondition of great art.

*“One can write nothing readable unless one constantly struggles to efface
one’s own personality,” *he claimed in “Why I Write” (1946). He requested
that there be no biography, but [second wife] Sonia, an avid custodian of
his legend, eventually permitted Bernard Crick to write one*.*

*There is no right superior to that of the truth.* Ancient device of the
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[Dan Bluestein]

Like Reginald suggested, I bent a new tab onto the end of one of those 
springs a year or two ago. It has held up so far, but the derailer is only 
in use as a tensioner on a dinglespeed. Getting the bend angled so that it 
would go back together correctly was a little bit of a nuisance, but if 
nobody has an intact derailer for you, give it a try.

Dan

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:04:49 AM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:

> Wonder if you can bend a new tab on the end of that spring to make it 
> work? 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the chain 
>> tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 
>>
>> If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
>> price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. I 
>> even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 
>>
>> [image: cyclone1.png]
>>
>> [image: cyclone2.png]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Underbiking

[Piaw Na]

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:40:30 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

What size are the tires on the Roadini? I seem to recall reading that that 
frame can take 42s?


I'm using Continental Terraspeed 40s, which actually measure 38. There's 
more room, but I didn't want to run at the absolute limit --- I would run a 
true 40mm but not a 42. 

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Re: [RBW] Plea for help with photos

[John Bokman]

rmmose:
Thanks for the thoughts. In my case, I create a link to my album but can't 
share it because my phone (apple) doesn't recognize the riv owners bunch. 
As in, it is not listed in my contacts, even though I added it to my 
contacts. Make sense? Sort of?

John

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi John. That is what I do. I create a Google photo album and then paste a 
> link to that album. A bigger frustration for me is not being able to create 
> a new post or “conversation” from my phone. I am sure there is a good 
> reason for this but I don’t get it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2023, at 1:30 PM, John Bokman  wrote:
>
> Hi Rivsters.
>
>
> I'm soliciting help in attaching photos to messages. In the past I have 
> used the paperclip to attach singular photos from my computer.
>
> Now, I'm thinking it should, theoretically, be easier to attach multiple 
> pictures by using google photos (which I've just installed on my apple 
> phone). I am under the impression I can create a link to my album (selected 
> photos only of course) and then "share" the link to the group members.
>
> Am I getting this right? Any recommendations before I proceed further?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] Underbiking

[Patrick Moore]

What size are the tires on the Roadini? I seem to recall reading that that
frame can take 42s?

I don't ride fast singletrack, with the exception of a few bosque trails
that are narrow due to vegetation, but they're flat; also sandy -- the sand
is why I had the #1 Matthews built, to get a more or less road position,
gearing, and feel with 60 mm 700C tires for the sand. And I very recently
put a drop bar (Spec Hover) on the Monocog which makes it very much more
pleasant to ride, but that has 3" tires.

When I took my '99 gofast fixed gear onto ditchbank roads a couple of
months ago with 42s (labeled) 39s (actual) in place of the 28s, it was
really fun, only that sort of tire is very limited because of our sand;
works fine in cold and wetter weather, but 3 hours of sun and heat and the
sand gets 2", 3", 4" deep -- no good. Even in March, still sub-freezing at
night, it was touchy in places, and I was using the direct/76" and low/57"
SA TF hub so I could power through the sandy bits. But the bike was so
nimble and flickable compared even to the #1 Matthews, which rides nicely,
and while both have drop bars, the lower bar position on the '99 did add to
the agile feeling, I expect. Of course, the Matthews is 32 lb with frame
bag and contents but no bottles or other luggage, while the '99 with the TF
weighed 18.7 lb (18 lb even with Phil and Dingle).

But I'm tempted to build up that '70s Libertas racing frame with (true) 38s
and road components and a fixed gear or at least a ss drivetrain; we'll see.

If I rode firm dirt trails, my Matthews #1 would get 44s right away; I'm
still thinking of swapping the Big Ones for Snoqualmie Passes.

My last 26er conversion had drop bars and 60 mm tires and a single 64"
(IIRC) fixed gear; lovely bike for pavement/sandy bosque trail transitions.
I've drop-barr'd other MTBs but those were mostly ridden for commuting on
pavement.

Funny: I recall trying my (drop bar'd) 1992 XO-1 off road, and finding it
very unpleasant; the front end was somehow just too squirrely in even
shallow sand. The later 1999 and 2003 26" wheel road customs were just as
agile, more serene on pavement in the transition between straight and
corner, and less nervous-making in shallow sand -- all of which supports my
long-held opinion that the XO-1 was an immature design immensely surpassed
by such road bikes as my 3 26" wheel customs, on one hand, and the original
Atlantis on the other.


On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:33 PM Piaw Na  wrote:

> This Saturday I took my Roadini and went up Spring Ridge Road (Windy Hill
> OSP) and descended Crazy Pete's (Coal Creak OSP).
> https://www.strava.com/activities/9109425331
>
> I had one of those amazing days where I was "on". I set PRs down Crazy
> Pete's (the last time I did it I was on a MTB with front suspension). The
> Roadini's 6-8 pounds lighter than my MTB, and without suspension, I felt
> like I could place my bike on precisely whatever lines I wanted, so much so
> that when I went at full speed, my friend on her dual suspension CF MTB (a
> Juliana Furtado) couldn't keep up downhill.
>
> I think the drop bars on my Roadini are partly responsible --- the low
> position feels natural, and the modulation on the Tektro 559s are nothing
> short of amazing. I remembered that one of Bridgestone's mountain bikes
> back in the 1980s came with drop bars. I dug around and found this article
> about "dirt drop" bars:
> https://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2008/10/drop-bar-for-mountain-biking-part-i.html
>
> I guess since cycling is so driven by fashion, maybe some day the wheel
> will turn and drop bars off road will come back into fashion. My experience
> made me wonder if you designed the frame so that those brake pads are at
> the bottom of the slots on the Tektro 559s, how big a tire can you fit? I
> found this video on youtube where someone managed to squeeze a 2" tire on
> those: https://youtu.be/vGnNkQJz-Fk?t=389
>
> Those of you with AHH or Roadinis, have you tried taking your bikes down
> rocky/rooty single track? Taking a MTB down those feels like driving a
> jeep, but riding the Roadini down one feels like you're a sushi chef
> carving fish with precision --- a completely different feeling.
>
> Piaw
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Brian Cunningham]

Great! Looking for to it. Looks like a perfect 71 degree day is in store 
for us. The 9am start seems like a good balance. Early enough but not too 
early. Admittedly the starting point is only a 30 min ride from my place.

Brian/Glendale/2015 Hillborne

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA 
> Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, 
> the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in 
> some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back 
> to the og time, just LMK.
>
> *As a reminder, here are the details:*
>
> When: 9 AM 
> Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los 
> Angeles, CA 90027
> Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 1k 
> ft. of climbing
>
> Optional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of 
> Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks 
> who want to do some more climbing!
>
> -Houston
>
> On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single scoop" 
>> for the LA Invitational. 
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person  wrote:
>>
>>> I've marked my calendar.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
 [image: RBWLAMeetup.jpg]
 On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:

> Hi y'all,
>
> Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 
> 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust 
> specifics 
> closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 
> 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across from 
> the Greek at 8 am. 
>
> Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that 
> weekend...it looks so sick! 
>
> So excited to meet everyone! 
>
> -Houston
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted 
>> rep the set.
>>
>> For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles 
>> Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21 
>> . John Prolly's write 2022 
>> write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA Invitational 
>> 
>> I signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at 
>> the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is 
>> really 
>> good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.
>> -Matt
>>
>> [image: losangelesinvitational.jpg]
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> @isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from 
>>> meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. 
>>> Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since 
>>> there 
>>> are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.
>>>
>>> @bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a great 
>>> location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and happened 
>>> upon 
>>> the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the family 
>>> in 
>>> the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the 
>>> handlebar 
>>> setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno frames come out.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 

 David 
 Black & Tan Sam
 Thousand Oaks

 On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 
 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could likely 
> make the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.
>
> Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was 
> your parked orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a 
> coincidence!
>
> The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some 
> great payoff! I usually just take a break or two on my way up.
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so 
>> the schedule's wide open during the summer.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> I am available on th

[RBW] Re: Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[brizbarn]

Christian, thanks for the pics and example.  I have some of the Velo Lumino 
wire.  With a a B&M light, would I need to run two wires to a rear B&M 
light?  Or do something similar to what you show in your pics, grounding to 
the frame on both the headlight and taillight ends, and just running one 
length of wire to the rear light?   Splitting a single length of Velo 
Lumino wire into two and adding spade terminals would not work, right?

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 9:57:03 AM UTC-7 christian poppell wrote:

> Hey Matthew, 
>
> Smaller wire is fine. The wire that Velo Lumino sells is perfect. Any 22  
> or 24gauge multistrand wire would work but the Velo Lumino wire is flexible 
> and has very durable insulation. You could also seperate the BM dual strand 
> wire. The insulation is thicker and less durable but works fine. 
>
> If the hole diameter is too small to pull two wires you can ground through 
> the frame. Ground one side of the dynamo to the fork eyelet 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xBqTJ575zxQkeUC49 then ground one side of the 
> light to the mount or other hard point 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/wPGMviZF9n5cYycn6. Run a single wire through 
> the fork and connect to the light. 
>
> Hope that makes sense! I can draw up a diagram if thats helpful. How much 
> wire do you need? I might have some to spare if needed. Also what light and 
> dynamo are you using?
>
> Christian
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 9:53:38 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In the weeks to come I’m going to be revisiting the wire-inside-the-fork 
>> trick. However, the hole is too small for the existing dynamo wires and I 
>> do not want to enlarge the hole.
>>
>> What would happen if I used a smaller-gauge wire inside the fork, to 
>> connect the dynamo to the headlight?
>>
>> Will a smaller-gauge wire be unable to handle the voltage/amperage from 
>> the dynamo? Will the headlight and taillight outputs be weaker? Or will the 
>> difference between the existing/stock wire and a smaller gauge be 
>> imperceptible?
>>
>> As always, your wisdom, advice, experience, and opinions are appreciated!
>>
>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:13:40 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone, 
>>
>> Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the right 
>> front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the small 
>> hole near the dropout. 
>>
>> I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can 
>> attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
>> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
>> fished through the fork. 
>>
>> Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to achieve 
>> this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of your 
>> internal wiring setups! 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Sackville Trunksacks, Olive & Khaki

[Patrick Moore]

PM sent at 12:40 pm MDST ...

Patrick "Oh, me! Me! Me!" Moore

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:32 PM Jacob Kersey  wrote:

> Hello RBW bunchers,
>
> Found a pair of forgotten small Rivendell/Sackville Trunksacks in the back
> of my closet, can't see myself using these much in the future after
> switching up my rack setup, so hoping they'll find a new home where they'll
> get a bit more action than they saw under my watch.
>
> How about $60 shipped for each bag (CONUSA via Pirateship), or $110
> shipped if you want the pair? They're in excellent barely-used condition,
> see photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qyKDSDDpbh6hRgUS7
>
> PayPal F&F preferred, please message me directly with any questions or
> interest.
>
> Thanks folks
>
> -Jacob in Oakland
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[RBW] Re: Lightweight chi-chi saddlebag of about 9 liters / 61 ci

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks all for the suggestions. I'll check them all. Actually, I did check
Ruthworks since I've owned at least 3 of his seat wedges -- yes, very well
made -- but he is no longer making customs and he doesn't have a saddlebag
in his product line.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks leather saddle care kit

[Kim Hetzel]

SOLD.

On Wed, May 17, 2023, 10:23 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I have a Brooks leather saddle care kit. It includes the original box, a
> small tin of Proofide, cloth, spanner wrench and booklet.
>
> Overall the kit is new for the exception of that I did use some of the
> Proofide from the tin just once to try it out with a purchase of a Brooks
> saddle I bought years ago.
>
> I do not need this kit, because I do not own a Brooks leather saddle
> anymore.
>
> $20.00, shipped in CONUS.
> Payment via PayPal.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
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[RBW] FS: Sackville Trunksacks, Olive & Khaki

[Jacob Kersey]

Hello RBW bunchers,

Found a pair of forgotten small Rivendell/Sackville Trunksacks in the back 
of my closet, can't see myself using these much in the future after 
switching up my rack setup, so hoping they'll find a new home where they'll 
get a bit more action than they saw under my watch.

How about $60 shipped for each bag (CONUSA via Pirateship), or $110 shipped 
if you want the pair? They're in excellent barely-used condition, see 
photos here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qyKDSDDpbh6hRgUS7

PayPal F&F preferred, please message me directly with any questions or 
interest.

Thanks folks

-Jacob in Oakland 

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[RBW] FS: 62cm Hunqapillar Frameset

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,


I have a nice 62cm Hunqapillar frameset for sale.  I bought it built up off 
the list about a year ago but it’s always been too big for me so I’m 
reluctantly selling it.  I think it’s been sold a few times here but seems 
to be in good shape.  There is some slight damage to the chain stay, which 
is visible in one of the photos.  Other than that some paint chips and 
scratches and signs of use.  Included with sale will be an FSA headset and 
Shimano bottom bracket - both installed - and a 28.6” Nitto seat post. 
 This was one of the frames made with that size seat post. Additionally I 
have tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose Handlebars that I could include for an 
additional $120.  They were never used but installed once.  

As far as shipping I have a box I could use and can pack it carefully 
myself.  I think shipping would be approximately $100 but can get an exact 
quote when sold and knowing what zip code I’m shipping to.  Also, I can 
take it to my local bike shop to have them pack and ship it. That will take 
longer - the last time I inquired it was a 10 day lead time to pack and 
ship, but that may have gone down.  I would estimate an additional $100 for 
that.

I'm thinking $1350 for the frameset plus whatever shipping option you 
choose.  Most payment methods would work.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks leather saddle care kit

[Kim Hetzel]

This has been SOLD !

On Wed, May 17, 2023, 10:23 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I have a Brooks leather saddle care kit. It includes the original box, a
> small tin of Proofide, cloth, spanner wrench and booklet.
>
> Overall the kit is new for the exception of that I did use some of the
> Proofide from the tin just once to try it out with a purchase of a Brooks
> saddle I bought years ago.
>
> I do not need this kit, because I do not own a Brooks leather saddle
> anymore.
>
> $20.00, shipped in CONUS.
> Payment via PayPal.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Rivendell Roadini 50cm - $1000

[Chester]

I'm the new owner and got the Roadini yesterday. Assembled it last night 
and took it for a very short spin just now.

I want to say thanks to Ed for being an almost ridiculous paragon of 
awesome throughout the whole deal. I had written him an e-mail just in case 
"sale on hold pending discussions" meant that a sale to someone else was 
not going to go through. As it turned out, it fell through and Ed wrote me 
back to ask me if I was still interested. Yup!

I didn't really have questions, but was chatty, and Ed was indulging about 
that and very generous and thoughtful about giving me notes on things he 
thought I ought to know or anticipate, such as the stem maybe being too 
short. He also generously instructed me to pay with Paypal Goods and 
Services, which would offer some buyer protection, but given how public and 
profuse his profile is on this group and on the Internet, I felt totally 
comfortable paying him Friends and Family and saving him from paying a vig 
to Paypal. 

I sent payment in the middle of the night and Ed still had the bike dropped 
off for shipment to me the next day. I received it two days later and I 
want to share some pictures of his packing job, which was simply 
breathtaking. You may think that a bicycle packing job is mundane and 
cannot be breathtaking, but if you think that, you're wrong:

https://imgur.com/a/NZUIGJU

I feel like I swaddled my children when they were babies with less care and 
certainly less diligence.

Thanks for everything, Ed! 
On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 11:23:54 AM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Bike is sold and on its way to its new owner.
>
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Sale on hold pending discussions.
>>
>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I love everything about this bike. The crankset is beautiful. And such a 
>>> killer price. I want to buy it just because but I really can't get another 
>>> bike right now. Someone is going to be really happy with this.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 3:22:17 PM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 Bought new from the first batch of Roadinis, ridden a few hundred 
 miles. Frame is in good condition with a handful of scratches but no 
 dents. 
 Wheelset was built by Rich (Hands on Wheels). Note this frame version uses 
 the mid-reach brakes and has a max tire width of ~35mm without fenders. 
 PBH 
 range is 77cm - 83cm.

 Build List


- Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6800
- Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore M591
- Cassette: Shimano (?) 11-34
- Chain: KMC X.9
- Crankset: Velo Orange Grand Cru 46/30 50.4 BCD
- Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN-55 BB
- Stem: Nitto Technomic 50mm
- Headset: 
- Handlebar: Nitto Noodle 46cm
- Shifter: Silver1 Downtube Shifters
- Brakes: Shimano BR-R451 w/ Ultegra Brake Holders and Pads
- Brake Levers: Shimano BL-R400
- Seatpost: 
- Hubs: Shimano 105 32h/32h
- Rims: Velocity A23 Front/A23 OC Rear
- Spokes: DT Swiss Comp
- Tires: Compass Stampede Pass (700c x 32)
- Skewers: Salsa Flip Off


 $1000 for complete plus shipping via Bikeflights from 90278. Preference 
 is to sell as a complete. Can also do a pickup in the area - South Bay 
 Beach Cities (Torrance/Redondo Beach/El Segundo).

 Photos available here: 
 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GpMiabU5SsESsixwst-TVUdXELEOxO94?usp=sharing

 Rivendell Geometry Chart: 
 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-500-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416

 Contact me off list if you have questions or are interested.

 --Ed C.



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Re: [RBW] WTB: Roly Poly Tires

[David Harries]

Not my listing, but here is a craigslist posting in 
Philadelphia: 
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bop/d/philadelphia-rivendell-rolly-poly-tires/7606900224.html

The seller may ship. If push comes to shove, let me know, I may be able to 
facilitate purchase/shipment. 

David in Philly.


On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 8:36:45 PM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Panaracer-Rivendell-Ruffy-Tuffy-Road-Tires-700x28c-Tan-Wall-New-no-packaging/304946354174?hash=item47003817fe:g:k5YAAOSwAkRkaRdk&amdata=enc:AQAI4POPQt2hupOFQTiPGtIVEtYMkSp8WKr9Kcw5vX5O/zxld3qxZPr9MjlcGDxEX74OoOcSeHif6AIJ/6i2wS71/e/hi1CMZHJA+XgWJaBx7FbZZwPF/TAtn8PDR/Ic8L15h5diFRM7sZe1gvDHWwC51lGxveqRN4ZkZo9PLnly/kQ3pWikMNA2Nxvnb1gHk5wFzDYlkWWILt/9nA1Dw2wjUJBdkend00o6S1vIWlGjNMppI85uCDUxcgRDzmekWdxgZ4pS+m6o9xXfPejO1BG3pewzY25G2po3T2XCp8L56MJl%7Ctkp:Bk9SR4Cb37qHYg&pageci=c51cb47a-a027-4067-b0e5-668bbdc57d41&redirect=mobile
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>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Panaracer-Rivendell-Ruffy-Tuffy-Road-Tires-700x28c-Tan-Wall/304946254173?hash=item470036915d:g:ElwAAOSwq5RkaPkq&amdata=enc:AQAIwE2zZ+2OmcT6/1Hv4Hssi/2LxWZeqvdTyRSGxhQ/vxTF2ewHc+NCg/UFIjmNaIVeEtFn2oKxXMkIOdbuNom+9YJFq0s1kDqIAUvex8y0ymLBxM+Orsaz2rKoEjsIg7CmdrtS1kAPapNZiXFmkY/Xlc1Qs50PAt+bG4Z693laxLWLdv8cudrgHdJV8GNXaJZssTpoSD3/lCfpGcxURLIjjvqbdNCfzdSQfWhZLP5Nzl3hY1pCQVu/XJDrW6vPSgGpQw==%7Ctkp:Bk9SR4Cb37qHYg&pageci=9347c951-1531-4fbf-b2c0-7e92c5e78574&redirect=mobile
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> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 8:33 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you send a link? Not seeing them when I search for “Rivendell tires"
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On May 20, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:
>>
>> Eric, two listings on ebay under Rivendell
>>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 8:27 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody have some new or new-ish Roly Poly tires in 700x28 that you 
>>> don’t need?
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Roly Poly Tires

[kw]

Perhaps they're willing to ship.

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bop/d/philadelphia-rivendell-rolly-poly-tires/7606900224.html


On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:44:42 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> If you can make do with the puncture belted Ruffy Tuffy, Planet-X Bike in 
> the UK distributes them in both black and brown sidewall, and yes, they are 
> folding. They normally sell Jack Brown blues and greens too but I ran 
> across a cycling forum somewhere where someone posted that they had them at 
> a reasonable price and all the tires were bought up, for the time being. 
> They do have Jack Brown 25.5mm race tires though .. those weren't 
> ravaged as that size doesn't suit the trend du jour. 
>
>
> https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYPART/ruffy-tuffy-folding-tyre-with-puncture-protection
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Re: [RBW] Plea for help with photos

[Richard Rose]

Hi John. That is what I do. I create a Google photo album and then paste a link to that album. A bigger frustration for me is not being able to create a new post or “conversation” from my phone. I am sure there is a good reason for this but I don’t get it.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2023, at 1:30 PM, John Bokman  wrote:Hi Rivsters.I'm soliciting help in attaching photos to messages. In the past I have used the paperclip to attach singular photos from my computer.Now, I'm thinking it should, theoretically, be easier to attach multiple pictures by using google photos (which I've just installed on my apple phone). I am under the impression I can create a link to my album (selected photos only of course) and then "share" the link to the group members.Am I getting this right? Any recommendations before I proceed further?Thanks all.John



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[RBW] Plea for help with photos

[John Bokman]

Hi Rivsters.

I'm soliciting help in attaching photos to messages. In the past I have 
used the paperclip to attach singular photos from my computer.

Now, I'm thinking it should, theoretically, be easier to attach multiple 
pictures by using google photos (which I've just installed on my apple 
phone). I am under the impression I can create a link to my album (selected 
photos only of course) and then "share" the link to the group members.

Am I getting this right? Any recommendations before I proceed further?

Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Houston Wilson]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA 
Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, 
the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in 
some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back 
to the og time, just LMK.

*As a reminder, here are the details:*

When: 9 AM 
Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los 
Angeles, CA 90027
Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 1k 
ft. of climbing

Optional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of 
Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks 
who want to do some more climbing!

-Houston

On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single scoop" 
> for the LA Invitational. 
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person  wrote:
>
>> I've marked my calendar.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: RBWLAMeetup.jpg]
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
 Hi y'all,

 Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 
 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust specifics 
 closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 
 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across from 
 the Greek at 8 am. 

 Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that 
 weekend...it looks so sick! 

 So excited to meet everyone! 

 -Houston

 On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted 
> rep the set.
>
> For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles 
> Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21 
> . John Prolly's write 2022 
> write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA Invitational 
> 
> I signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at 
> the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is 
> really 
> good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.
> -Matt
>
> [image: losangelesinvitational.jpg]
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> @isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from 
>> meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. 
>> Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since 
>> there 
>> are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.
>>
>> @bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a great 
>> location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and happened 
>> upon 
>> the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the family 
>> in 
>> the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the 
>> handlebar 
>> setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno frames come out.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 
>>>
>>> David 
>>> Black & Tan Sam
>>> Thousand Oaks
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could likely 
 make the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.

 Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was your 
 parked orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a 
 coincidence!

 The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some great 
 payoff! I usually just take a break or two on my way up.
 On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so 
> the schedule's wide open during the summer.
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20th
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham <
>> thisisbria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky 
>> schedule is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends 
>> up 
>> being the best date for all parties involved.
>>
>>
>> Brian 
>>

[RBW] Re: Underbiking

[Brady Smith]

I bought a BMC La Cabra out of the first run and set it up with Ritchey 
Beacon bars. My first season riding in the mountains around Salt Lake City 
I did not see anyone else on drop bar bikes. The second year, I noticed a 
few people riding gravel bikes on mellow singletrack. So far this year the 
number of drop bar bikes has exploded. It could just be happenstance, but 
there does seem to be a growing market for trail-ready bikes that are more 
versatile than the standard mtb. I really like being able to ride 
comfortably to the trail, riding some singletrack, and then transitioning 
back to road for the trip home. The La Cabra has been a fun bikefishing rig 
as well. One of these days, I'll take it bike camping. I sometimes wish I 
had a hardtail or FS for riding in Park City or the more technical trails 
near my parents in Western Colorado, but when push comes to shove I can't 
justify the expense as long as the La Cabra is in my stable, at least for 
the kind of riding I do. 

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 3:17:14 AM UTC-6 R. Alexis wrote:

> The remake of the Wilderness Trail Bikes (WTB) Dirt Drop bar is the Nitto 
> RM3 Dirt Drop. Wonder if some patent kept them from reintroducing them 
> sooner that they did. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 4:01:42 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Dirt Drop mountain bikes are currently at a resurgence. The number of 
>> flared drop bars is at an all time high. The fact that Nitto finally 
>> started making the the dirt drop probably cemented its return. I have 
>> several bikes with Wilderness Trail Bikes Dirt Drop bars and one with a 
>> flared Nitto  RM014 flared drop on my Schwinn Voyageur touring bike. With 
>> gravel bikes currently part of the mainstream mix flared drops have settled 
>> in. The Surly Corner Bar Is a good example of the popularity of this type 
>> of bar. https://surlybikes.com/parts/corner_bar
>>
>> I have been a fan of the dirt drop bar since I first saw a 89 Trek 970 
>> mountain bike built with them. I think they are the perfect all rounder 
>> bar. The flair gives a nice, natural hand position, multiple hand 
>> locations. The other bar bar I have been happy with are the Jones H-Bar. 
>> Got a similar Surly Open Bar mounted on my Gary Fisher Gemini tandem in the 
>> captains position. 
>>
>> Reginald Alexis 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 7:33:40 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> This Saturday I took my Roadini and went up Spring Ridge Road (Windy 
>>> Hill OSP) and descended Crazy Pete's (Coal Creak OSP). 
>>> https://www.strava.com/activities/9109425331
>>>
>>> I had one of those amazing days where I was "on". I set PRs down Crazy 
>>> Pete's (the last time I did it I was on a MTB with front suspension). The 
>>> Roadini's 6-8 pounds lighter than my MTB, and without suspension, I felt 
>>> like I could place my bike on precisely whatever lines I wanted, so much so 
>>> that when I went at full speed, my friend on her dual suspension CF MTB (a 
>>> Juliana Furtado) couldn't keep up downhill.
>>>
>>> I think the drop bars on my Roadini are partly responsible --- the low 
>>> position feels natural, and the modulation on the Tektro 559s are nothing 
>>> short of amazing. I remembered that one of Bridgestone's mountain bikes 
>>> back in the 1980s came with drop bars. I dug around and found this article 
>>> about "dirt drop" bars: 
>>> https://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2008/10/drop-bar-for-mountain-biking-part-i.html
>>>
>>> I guess since cycling is so driven by fashion, maybe some day the wheel 
>>> will turn and drop bars off road will come back into fashion. My experience 
>>> made me wonder if you designed the frame so that those brake pads are at 
>>> the bottom of the slots on the Tektro 559s, how big a tire can you fit? I 
>>> found this video on youtube where someone managed to squeeze a 2" tire on 
>>> those: https://youtu.be/vGnNkQJz-Fk?t=389
>>>
>>> Those of you with AHH or Roadinis, have you tried taking your bikes down 
>>> rocky/rooty single track? Taking a MTB down those feels like driving a 
>>> jeep, but riding the Roadini down one feels like you're a sushi chef 
>>> carving fish with precision --- a completely different feeling.
>>>
>>> Piaw
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[Drew Fitchette]

@Eric

Echoing George's comment, my local bike non-profit has a handfull of old 
Suntour derailers(ARX, XC, XCE). Happy to send any/all you think might be 
worth a look for parts harvesting. swinging through there today to grab 
some stuff for a project. let me know!

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:20:10 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Hmmm...let me dig around in my parts box.  I have at least one Sun Tour RD 
> in there, but it might be a short cage.  But you could take it apart - the 
> spring should be the same.
> I'll PM you with my findings.
>
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the chain 
>> tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 
>>
>> If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
>> price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. I 
>> even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 
>>
>> [image: cyclone1.png]
>>
>> [image: cyclone2.png]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[brendonoid]

A Saluki in my size and favourite colour. A rare thing indeed.
Sometimes I really hate being on the other side of the world to all these 
perfect bicycles.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[George Schick]

Hmmm...let me dig around in my parts box.  I have at least one Sun Tour RD 
in there, but it might be a short cage.  But you could take it apart - the 
spring should be the same.
I'll PM you with my findings.


On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the chain 
> tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 
>
> If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
> price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 
>
> Thank you!
>
> Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. I 
> even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 
>
> [image: cyclone1.png]
>
> [image: cyclone2.png]
>

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[RBW] Re: Underbiking

[R. Alexis]

The remake of the Wilderness Trail Bikes (WTB) Dirt Drop bar is the Nitto 
RM3 Dirt Drop. Wonder if some patent kept them from reintroducing them 
sooner that they did. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 4:01:42 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

> Dirt Drop mountain bikes are currently at a resurgence. The number of 
> flared drop bars is at an all time high. The fact that Nitto finally 
> started making the the dirt drop probably cemented its return. I have 
> several bikes with Wilderness Trail Bikes Dirt Drop bars and one with a 
> flared Nitto  RM014 flared drop on my Schwinn Voyageur touring bike. With 
> gravel bikes currently part of the mainstream mix flared drops have settled 
> in. The Surly Corner Bar Is a good example of the popularity of this type 
> of bar. https://surlybikes.com/parts/corner_bar
>
> I have been a fan of the dirt drop bar since I first saw a 89 Trek 970 
> mountain bike built with them. I think they are the perfect all rounder 
> bar. The flair gives a nice, natural hand position, multiple hand 
> locations. The other bar bar I have been happy with are the Jones H-Bar. 
> Got a similar Surly Open Bar mounted on my Gary Fisher Gemini tandem in the 
> captains position. 
>
> Reginald Alexis 
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 7:33:40 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This Saturday I took my Roadini and went up Spring Ridge Road (Windy Hill 
>> OSP) and descended Crazy Pete's (Coal Creak OSP). 
>> https://www.strava.com/activities/9109425331
>>
>> I had one of those amazing days where I was "on". I set PRs down Crazy 
>> Pete's (the last time I did it I was on a MTB with front suspension). The 
>> Roadini's 6-8 pounds lighter than my MTB, and without suspension, I felt 
>> like I could place my bike on precisely whatever lines I wanted, so much so 
>> that when I went at full speed, my friend on her dual suspension CF MTB (a 
>> Juliana Furtado) couldn't keep up downhill.
>>
>> I think the drop bars on my Roadini are partly responsible --- the low 
>> position feels natural, and the modulation on the Tektro 559s are nothing 
>> short of amazing. I remembered that one of Bridgestone's mountain bikes 
>> back in the 1980s came with drop bars. I dug around and found this article 
>> about "dirt drop" bars: 
>> https://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2008/10/drop-bar-for-mountain-biking-part-i.html
>>
>> I guess since cycling is so driven by fashion, maybe some day the wheel 
>> will turn and drop bars off road will come back into fashion. My experience 
>> made me wonder if you designed the frame so that those brake pads are at 
>> the bottom of the slots on the Tektro 559s, how big a tire can you fit? I 
>> found this video on youtube where someone managed to squeeze a 2" tire on 
>> those: https://youtu.be/vGnNkQJz-Fk?t=389
>>
>> Those of you with AHH or Roadinis, have you tried taking your bikes down 
>> rocky/rooty single track? Taking a MTB down those feels like driving a 
>> jeep, but riding the Roadini down one feels like you're a sushi chef 
>> carving fish with precision --- a completely different feeling.
>>
>> Piaw
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[R. Alexis]

Wonder if you can bend a new tab on the end of that spring to make it work? 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the chain 
> tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 
>
> If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
> price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 
>
> Thank you!
>
> Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. I 
> even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 
>
> [image: cyclone1.png]
>
> [image: cyclone2.png]
>

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[RBW] Re: Underbiking

[R. Alexis]

Dirt Drop mountain bikes are currently at a resurgence. The number of 
flared drop bars is at an all time high. The fact that Nitto finally 
started making the the dirt drop probably cemented its return. I have 
several bikes with Wilderness Trail Bikes Dirt Drop bars and one with a 
flared Nitto  RM014 flared drop on my Schwinn Voyageur touring bike. With 
gravel bikes currently part of the mainstream mix flared drops have settled 
in. The Surly Corner Bar Is a good example of the popularity of this type 
of bar. https://surlybikes.com/parts/corner_bar

I have been a fan of the dirt drop bar since I first saw a 89 Trek 970 
mountain bike built with them. I think they are the perfect all rounder 
bar. The flair gives a nice, natural hand position, multiple hand 
locations. The other bar bar I have been happy with are the Jones H-Bar. 
Got a similar Surly Open Bar mounted on my Gary Fisher Gemini tandem in the 
captains position. 

Reginald Alexis 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 7:33:40 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> This Saturday I took my Roadini and went up Spring Ridge Road (Windy Hill 
> OSP) and descended Crazy Pete's (Coal Creak OSP). 
> https://www.strava.com/activities/9109425331
>
> I had one of those amazing days where I was "on". I set PRs down Crazy 
> Pete's (the last time I did it I was on a MTB with front suspension). The 
> Roadini's 6-8 pounds lighter than my MTB, and without suspension, I felt 
> like I could place my bike on precisely whatever lines I wanted, so much so 
> that when I went at full speed, my friend on her dual suspension CF MTB (a 
> Juliana Furtado) couldn't keep up downhill.
>
> I think the drop bars on my Roadini are partly responsible --- the low 
> position feels natural, and the modulation on the Tektro 559s are nothing 
> short of amazing. I remembered that one of Bridgestone's mountain bikes 
> back in the 1980s came with drop bars. I dug around and found this article 
> about "dirt drop" bars: 
> https://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2008/10/drop-bar-for-mountain-biking-part-i.html
>
> I guess since cycling is so driven by fashion, maybe some day the wheel 
> will turn and drop bars off road will come back into fashion. My experience 
> made me wonder if you designed the frame so that those brake pads are at 
> the bottom of the slots on the Tektro 559s, how big a tire can you fit? I 
> found this video on youtube where someone managed to squeeze a 2" tire on 
> those: https://youtu.be/vGnNkQJz-Fk?t=389
>
> Those of you with AHH or Roadinis, have you tried taking your bikes down 
> rocky/rooty single track? Taking a MTB down those feels like driving a 
> jeep, but riding the Roadini down one feels like you're a sushi chef 
> carving fish with precision --- a completely different feeling.
>
> Piaw
>

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