[RBW] PSA: Craigslist: Rivendell Silver Cranks - 2 piece with 32/22 chainrings & BB

[Kim H.]

No affiliation with the seller. 

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bop/d/los-angeles-rivendell-silver-cranks/7638539959.html

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[Luke Hendrickson]

Randy – love to hear that! This bike’s been a wonderful dirt road shredder 
over the last year. Stoked to see how you build yours up. 

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 6:02:36 PM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Luke! Your Atlantis is part of the inspiration for this idea.
> Randy in WI
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 5:53:53 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> [image: R0004684.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 3:53:05 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> I have the current MIT and I have Conti Mountain Kings which are a plump 
>>> 2.3”
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:26:51 PM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have the previous version of the Appaloosa, which clearance in 
 reality is about 700x50. I tried 2.1” WTB Nano on Cliffhanger rims and 
 wore 
 some paint off the chainstay in moderately muddy conditions. I would like 
 to run a 2.2/2.3” tire with decent clearance-maybe the Atlantis is not the 
 right choice? I thought 2.3” worked on Atlantis. The 62cm Appaloosa fits 
 me 
 perfectly and I love the way it rides (tire clearance being the only 
 concern).
 Thank you for the input.
 Randy in WI

 On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> Not to complicate anything, but basis 2023 specs, the MIT Atlantis 
> seems to take the same maximum ~55m tire size. The current spec sheet 
> says 
> the Appaloosa tops out at 60cm; the Atlantis 62cm, so maybe the frame 
> size 
> of your Appaloosa is the issue? 
>
>
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/RBW_Bicycle_Geometry_Table_-_May_2023.pdf?v=1687890742
>  
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:52:39 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and 
>> touring. I have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
>> Thank you,
>> Randy in WI
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[larson....@gmail.com]

Thanks Luke! Your Atlantis is part of the inspiration for this idea.
Randy in WI

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 5:53:53 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: R0004684.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 3:53:05 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> I have the current MIT and I have Conti Mountain Kings which are a plump 
>> 2.3”
>>
>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:26:51 PM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have the previous version of the Appaloosa, which clearance in reality 
>>> is about 700x50. I tried 2.1” WTB Nano on Cliffhanger rims and wore some 
>>> paint off the chainstay in moderately muddy conditions. I would like to run 
>>> a 2.2/2.3” tire with decent clearance-maybe the Atlantis is not the right 
>>> choice? I thought 2.3” worked on Atlantis. The 62cm Appaloosa fits me 
>>> perfectly and I love the way it rides (tire clearance being the only 
>>> concern).
>>> Thank you for the input.
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Not to complicate anything, but basis 2023 specs, the MIT Atlantis 
 seems to take the same maximum ~55m tire size. The current spec sheet says 
 the Appaloosa tops out at 60cm; the Atlantis 62cm, so maybe the frame size 
 of your Appaloosa is the issue? 


 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/RBW_Bicycle_Geometry_Table_-_May_2023.pdf?v=1687890742
  

 On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:52:39 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. 
> I have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
> Thank you,
> Randy in WI
>


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[RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

[Garth]

Dave, the foam padding flattens out over time. If you or anyone else wants 
no padding at all Andiamo offers two different styles from them directly. 

https://andiamounderwear.com/shop/unisex-skins-unpadded/

https://andiamounderwear.com/shop/mens-sport-brief/


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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto face plater stem, Tektro R559 calipers, Fab's Abs X11 bag

[Eric Marth]

PM'd on the Fabulous Abs :)

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:58:37 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> PM'd on the Tektro R559's
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 11:35:28 AM UTC-4 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A few items for sale in nice shape..
>>
>> -Nitto tig'd face plater stem 60mm / 31.8 bar clamp - no scratches   $100 
>> shipped
>>
>> -IRD Heron tig'd face plater stem 100mm / 31.8 bar clamp - a few 
>> insertion marks - $70 shipped
>>
>> -Tektro R559 brake set (recessed allen) one bike's worth. $60 shipped
>>
>> -Ron's Fab's Abs X11 tan handlebar bag - very light!  barely used $85 
>> shipped
>>
>> Located in VA
>>
>> photos here..
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/147564748@N06/upJ2287115
>>
>> thanks!  -Scott 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[Luke Hendrickson]

I have the current MIT and I have Conti Mountain Kings which are a plump 
2.3”

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:26:51 PM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> I have the previous version of the Appaloosa, which clearance in reality 
> is about 700x50. I tried 2.1” WTB Nano on Cliffhanger rims and wore some 
> paint off the chainstay in moderately muddy conditions. I would like to run 
> a 2.2/2.3” tire with decent clearance-maybe the Atlantis is not the right 
> choice? I thought 2.3” worked on Atlantis. The 62cm Appaloosa fits me 
> perfectly and I love the way it rides (tire clearance being the only 
> concern).
> Thank you for the input.
> Randy in WI
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Not to complicate anything, but basis 2023 specs, the MIT Atlantis seems 
>> to take the same maximum ~55m tire size. The current spec sheet says the 
>> Appaloosa tops out at 60cm; the Atlantis 62cm, so maybe the frame size of 
>> your Appaloosa is the issue? 
>>
>>
>> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/RBW_Bicycle_Geometry_Table_-_May_2023.pdf?v=1687890742
>>  
>>
>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:52:39 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. I 
>>> have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[larson....@gmail.com]

I have the previous version of the Appaloosa, which clearance in reality is 
about 700x50. I tried 2.1” WTB Nano on Cliffhanger rims and wore some paint 
off the chainstay in moderately muddy conditions. I would like to run a 
2.2/2.3” tire with decent clearance-maybe the Atlantis is not the right 
choice? I thought 2.3” worked on Atlantis. The 62cm Appaloosa fits me 
perfectly and I love the way it rides (tire clearance being the only 
concern).
Thank you for the input.
Randy in WI

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> Not to complicate anything, but basis 2023 specs, the MIT Atlantis seems 
> to take the same maximum ~55m tire size. The current spec sheet says the 
> Appaloosa tops out at 60cm; the Atlantis 62cm, so maybe the frame size of 
> your Appaloosa is the issue? 
>
>
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/RBW_Bicycle_Geometry_Table_-_May_2023.pdf?v=1687890742
>  
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:52:39 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. I 
>> have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
>> Thank you,
>> Randy in WI
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[Ryan]

Not to complicate anything, but basis 2023 specs, the MIT Atlantis seems to 
take the same maximum ~55m tire size. The current spec sheet says the 
Appaloosa tops out at 60cm; the Atlantis 62cm, so maybe the frame size of 
your Appaloosa is the issue? 

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/RBW_Bicycle_Geometry_Table_-_May_2023.pdf?v=1687890742
 

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:52:39 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. I 
> have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
> Thank you,
> Randy in WI
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride in Asheville NC?

[Brian Turner]

Hey everyone, if the Kentucky contingent (me, Huston and Tim) are a bit late to the bike swap, don’t fret… we will be there. We ended up grabbing some food beforehand but it’s looking like we won’t be there right at 3pm. See you there!- BrianOn Jun 30, 2023, at 10:52 AM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Hi everyone, Here's the final schedule and attendee roster for our Asheville Riv Weekend, July 7-9. My apologies if I've missed anyone who is planning to attend and if so, please let me know. Also, if you have any questions, please reach out!GaryOn Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:39:43 PM UTC-4 MTR wrote:I would love to be put down for a poster. still unsure if I can pull of the ride but would love a posterOn Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-4 EverRed wrote:Sounds great!  Please put me down for one.JohnBlack MountainOn Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:18:28 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:The posters will be 16” x 20”, signed and numbered. I’m actually hand printing them this weekend. For those who cannot make the trip to Asheville, afterwards I’ll be putting any remaining posters up online with an Etsy link to purchase.- BrianOn Jun 28, 2023, at 8:58 PM, EverRed  wrote:What are the dimensions of the poster?Many thanksJohnOn Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 3:23:18 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:Sorry to miss you next weekend Dick, but I'll let Brian know you'd like to be on the list for one of his posters (which are so great!).If anyone else is interested in a poster (see details in my last post) pls let me know asap so I can give Brian a heads up on how many to print.GaryOn Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 2:30:43 PM UTC-4 Dick Pahle wrote:I can't make the ride that wkend but I'd sure like one of those posters (nicely done, Brian!!). DickBrevard, NCOn Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:Hi from Asheville!Looks like we're going to have a fun turnout for our Riv get together July 7-9. We are going to be finalizing plans next week and will get the details out to everyone, but until then here is an awesome poster that one of our participants, Brian Turner came up with (Thank you Brian!!!). He runs a graphic design and printing company and is offering to print up posters for anyone coming to the gathering who may want one. He estimates that they will cost about $20-25 and if you're interested please let me know asap so I can let him know.Also, if anyone wants more info about the weekend now that you've been tempted by Brian's amazing work, please contact me.On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 6:52:25 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:Gary, did you say there's an extra 55cm Cheviot lying around here in Asheville? I could maybe help with that . . . On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 9:19:20 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:Leah,What a great offer - it would be an honor to have a video made by you!  But better yet, why don’t you come join us? I know of an extra 55cm Cheviot lying around here in Asheville :)GaryOn Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 2:32:25 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Dick, sorry you won't be able to make it that weekend. "40 mm Little Big Ben's...Could I do those Bent Creek area forest roads on that bike?" Absolutely!!!    Come on up from Brevard and give it a go!On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:03 PM Dick Pahle  wrote:I've been following this for a while hoping I could commit to joining in. Knew that week in July was problematic and now know for sure I can't make it. Ratz!!I'm in Brevard and ride a Homer with 40 mm Little Big Ben's. 90 % on roads and paved trails. Could I do those Bent Creek area forest roads on that bike? If so, I may try and join those of you who ride there on a regular basis some other time, if ok to join ya.Sorry I'll miss meeting/riding with all of you and sorry to miss Pam,  a good friend and my Cycling Savvy instructor from Charlotte. DickOn Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:Hi,There was some talk about a Riv ride in Asheville this spring but a May date won't work for lots of people. If there's still any interest in a meetup, how would a July or mid-Sept weekend work for folks?  If there's enough people interested I would be happy to try to nail down a date for whatever month seems to work for most everyone.Gary



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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto face plater stem, Tektro R559 calipers, Fab's Abs X11 bag

[Tim Bantham]

PM'd on the Tektro R559's

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 11:35:28 AM UTC-4 psc...@gmail.com wrote:

> A few items for sale in nice shape..
>
> -Nitto tig'd face plater stem 60mm / 31.8 bar clamp - no scratches   $100 
> shipped
>
> -IRD Heron tig'd face plater stem 100mm / 31.8 bar clamp - a few insertion 
> marks - $70 shipped
>
> -Tektro R559 brake set (recessed allen) one bike's worth. $60 shipped
>
> -Ron's Fab's Abs X11 tan handlebar bag - very light!  barely used $85 
> shipped
>
> Located in VA
>
> photos here..
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/147564748@N06/upJ2287115
>
> thanks!  -Scott 
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto face plater stem, Tektro R559 calipers, Fab's Abs X11 bag

[scott minor]

A few items for sale in nice shape..

-Nitto tig'd face plater stem 60mm / 31.8 bar clamp - no scratches   $100 
shipped

-IRD Heron tig'd face plater stem 100mm / 31.8 bar clamp - a few insertion 
marks - $70 shipped

-Tektro R559 brake set (recessed allen) one bike's worth. $60 shipped

-Ron's Fab's Abs X11 tan handlebar bag - very light!  barely used $85 
shipped

Located in VA

photos here..

https://www.flickr.com/gp/147564748@N06/upJ2287115

thanks!  -Scott 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

[John Dewey]

Patrick, you might give a look to the Club Ride liners. I’ve been riding in
these for years now. There are 3 pad thicknesses to choose from, for you
the 1 Hour pad would be perfect. I’ve got a stash of these figuring they
might go away some day. They’re bomb proof. Really well made, light,
stretchy, breathable but not baggy. I’ve been ‘cycling’ between 2 pair
trying to wear them out and I can’t. I’ve finished many delightful long
rides in the one-hour liners, highly recommended!

Best / Jock

On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 8:06 AM DavidP  wrote:

> I just received a pair of Andiamos and have had a few rides in them - I
> think they are fine. For reference, I have a couple of other pairs of liner
> shorts even though for most rides regul synthetic  underwear is all I need,
> but for some rides r you they are nice (not to mention on the trainer to
> the  where this is less coasting/standing).
>
> The Andiamos actually have more padding then I expected - not as much as
> some shorts, but I have an old pair of Nashbar branded liner shorts that
> has less and more compliant padding (these seem to not use foam but
> microfleece padding). The Andiamos are fine and I will happily use them but
> I kind of expected something even more minimal.
>
> -Dave
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:02:59 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Patrick, I’ve never worn anything more comfortable than Kucharik wool
>> shorts. I had my time with synthetic skin tight shorts and bib shorts but
>> without high pads and while ok the Kucharik were still the most
>> comfortable.
>>
>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:59:02 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I was just perusing the new Riv email update and saw Andiamos.
>>>
>>> I gave up nastily clinging lycra shorts with nasty, bulky pillow pads
>>> over 20 years ago, but when I ride over 30 miles I do sometimes like to
>>> wear something a bit more bunch, crease, and chafe resistant than my usual
>>> oversized nylon boxers under street shorts or Rapha Randonee shorts.
>>>
>>> I've hoarded about 3 pairs of nice Kucharik wool shorts with real
>>> chamois or -- for one pair -- a synthetic that is also minimalist.
>>>
>>> But I'd rather have something synthetic for ease of laundering and an
>>> undergarment that can be worn under any decent pair of shorts, as long as
>>> it serves as well the basic purpose of bike shorts: prevent bunching and
>>> chafing. Again, I'm not interested in padding; I chose the right saddle and
>>> I have it and bar positioned properly.
>>>
>>> So, those of you with relevant experience, will Andiamos be as
>>> comfortable under Rapha touring shorts as wool Kuchariks with chamois?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

[DavidP]

I just received a pair of Andiamos and have had a few rides in them - I 
think they are fine. For reference, I have a couple of other pairs of liner 
shorts even though for most rides regular synthetic underwear is all I 
need, but for some rides they are nice (not to mention on the trainer where 
this is less coasting/standing). 

The Andiamos actually have more padding then I expected - not as much as 
some shorts, but I have an old pair of Nashbar branded liner shorts that 
has less and more compliant padding (these seem to not use foam but 
microfleece padding). The Andiamos are fine and I will happily use them but 
I kind of expected something even more minimal.

-Dave
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:02:59 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Patrick, I’ve never worn anything more comfortable than Kucharik wool 
> shorts. I had my time with synthetic skin tight shorts and bib shorts but 
> without high pads and while ok the Kucharik were still the most 
> comfortable. 
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:59:02 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I was just perusing the new Riv email update and saw Andiamos.
>>
>> I gave up nastily clinging lycra shorts with nasty, bulky pillow pads 
>> over 20 years ago, but when I ride over 30 miles I do sometimes like to 
>> wear something a bit more bunch, crease, and chafe resistant than my usual 
>> oversized nylon boxers under street shorts or Rapha Randonee shorts.
>>
>> I've hoarded about 3 pairs of nice Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois 
>> or -- for one pair -- a synthetic that is also minimalist. 
>>
>> But I'd rather have something synthetic for ease of laundering and an 
>> undergarment that can be worn under any decent pair of shorts, as long as 
>> it serves as well the basic purpose of bike shorts: prevent bunching and 
>> chafing. Again, I'm not interested in padding; I chose the right saddle and 
>> I have it and bar positioned properly.
>>
>> So, those of you with relevant experience, will Andiamos be as 
>> comfortable under Rapha touring shorts as wool Kuchariks with chamois?
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[larson....@gmail.com]

Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. I 
have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
Thank you,
Randy in WI

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Clem Smith Jr. L 59cm Mustard

[Brett Robinson]

Still searching for an L in mustard, just in case anyone out there has one to sell.--Brett RobinsonOn Jan 21, 2023, at 10:27 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:I found another picture of that 
 Clem Smith Jr L in mustard.    https://www.boisebicycleproject.org/bbpexperience/2021/11/9/ive-dreamed-of-owning-rivendell-since-i-started-bbp-i-never-imagined-wed-get-2-donated<48791746487_cd76782b6e_b.jpeg>Kim HetzelYelm, WA.On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 7:56:07 PM UTC-8 BRETT ROBINSON wrote:Bumping this back up in case anyone has a mustard L they want to part ways with. --Brett RobinsonOn Feb 28, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Brett Robinson  wrote:Friends!  The Roscoe Bubbe baby bike has been great to me the past year, doing lots of park and school drop off duties plus weekend runs for pancakes. I’m still looking for a Clem Smith Jr L in mustard for when it’s time to pass the baby bike along to another parent. I’m also interested in another Bubbe baby bike, have a friend looking for one in the smaller/650b incarnation. Let me know what you’ve got!--Brett RobinsonOn Feb 17, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Brett Robinson  wrote:Well, found a step thru but it’s not a Clem L and it’s not mustard. Roscoe Bebe baby bike on its way. Still interested in a 59 Clem L mustard in case anyone sees this and is looking to sell one. --Brett RobinsonOn Feb 9, 2021, at 7:19 PM, BRETT ROBINSON  wrote:Looking for a 59 cm Clem L, in mustard (butterscotch? butternut? whatever it's called, you know the one!). My wife is tired of me stealing her Betty Foy that I bought for her from bicyclebelle last year.



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[RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

[J S]

Patrick, I’ve never worn anything more comfortable than Kucharik wool 
shorts. I had my time with synthetic skin tight shorts and bib shorts but 
without high pads and while ok the Kucharik were still the most 
comfortable. 

On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:59:02 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I was just perusing the new Riv email update and saw Andiamos.
>
> I gave up nastily clinging lycra shorts with nasty, bulky pillow pads over 
> 20 years ago, but when I ride over 30 miles I do sometimes like to wear 
> something a bit more bunch, crease, and chafe resistant than my usual 
> oversized nylon boxers under street shorts or Rapha Randonee shorts.
>
> I've hoarded about 3 pairs of nice Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois 
> or -- for one pair -- a synthetic that is also minimalist. 
>
> But I'd rather have something synthetic for ease of laundering and an 
> undergarment that can be worn under any decent pair of shorts, as long as 
> it serves as well the basic purpose of bike shorts: prevent bunching and 
> chafing. Again, I'm not interested in padding; I chose the right saddle and 
> I have it and bar positioned properly.
>
> So, those of you with relevant experience, will Andiamos be as comfortable 
> under Rapha touring shorts as wool Kuchariks with chamois?
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

['peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I love Andiamos and recommend you give them a try to learn for yourself.

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 6:36:39 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> I've had multiple pairs of the briefs for 20 some years and I best sum it 
> up like this, if you are not prone to chafing issues you won't get any from 
> the Andiamo's. If you are prone to them, they likely won't make any 
> difference. I've always bought from and dealt with Andiamo directly. I had 
> some fit/sizing issued once for which they remedied beyond my wildest 
> expectations. I see they still offer complimentary shipping over $45, or $5 
> flat rate below. 
>
>
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[RBW] WTB: 58cm Sam Hillborne

[lambbo]

Hi all, I'm looking for the illusive used 58cm Sam Hillborne, preferably 
near SF!

Thanks,
Antone

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[RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

[Garth]

I've had multiple pairs of the briefs for 20 some years and I best sum it 
up like this, if you are not prone to chafing issues you won't get any from 
the Andiamo's. If you are prone to them, they likely won't make any 
difference. I've always bought from and dealt with Andiamo directly. I had 
some fit/sizing issued once for which they remedied beyond my wildest 
expectations. I see they still offer complimentary shipping over $45, or $5 
flat rate below. 


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