Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[jaredwilson]

Big ups on the higonokami, always keep mine on me/my bike, an iBob must!

jared

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:25:01 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I have a Silky Katanaboy that lives in my camper van. It’s ridiculous how 
> quickly that cuts through medium sized logs. I also picked up a Silky Zubat 
> for around the house. I may need to add a Pocket Boy for the bike now…
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the kind words all. I quite love the utilitarian versatility 
> of the Clementine. 
>
>
> I found a full sized silky biking and was convinced of their excellence. 
> The Pocket boy is just as good! If you want another fun pocket-sized saw 
> that is even smaller check out. It'd be great for cutting small kindling. 
>
>
> https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/saws/japanese/69363-retractable-japanese-saw?item=60T2230
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:44:42 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been laughed at for my Pocket-Boy saw in my bikepacking kit... until 
>> you basically save the trip with it, then everyone suddenly realizes its 
>> worth.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:40 PM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>>
>>> Mackenzy,
>>>
>>> Wow, your bike belongs on the RivBike instagram/website/email somewhere. 
>>> I love to see working bikes. I hope Will is reading.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

 On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
 wrote:

 Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do 
 the different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an 
 assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to 
 right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord 
 pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien 
 scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw 
 driver. 

 I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill, 
 hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc. 

 I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a 
 milwaukee packout kit to it. 

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile 
> hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had 
> my moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like 
> them on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one 
> from Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked 
> well 
> enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually 
> because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to 
> use 
> a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where 
>> you can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any 
>> quality issues.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread 
>>> pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a 
>>> bell 
>>> onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
>>>
>>> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube 
>>> shifter boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under 
 the top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018

 BL in EC
 On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a 
> number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All 
> three 
> were Japanese Crane models. 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[rltilley]

I have a Silky Katanaboy that lives in my camper van. It’s ridiculous how quickly that cuts through medium sized logs. I also picked up a Silky Zubat for around the house. I may need to add a Pocket Boy for the bike now…Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Jul 12, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:Thanks for the kind words all. I quite love the utilitarian versatility of the Clementine. I found a full sized silky biking and was convinced of their excellence. The Pocket boy is just as good! If you want another fun pocket-sized saw that is even smaller check out. It'd be great for cutting small kindling. https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/saws/japanese/69363-retractable-japanese-saw?item=60T2230On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:44:42 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:I've been laughed at for my Pocket-Boy saw in my bikepacking kit... until you basically save the trip with it, then everyone suddenly realizes its worth.On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:40 PM Tom Wyland  wrote:Mackenzy,Wow, your bike belongs on the RivBike instagram/website/email somewhere. I love to see working bikes. I hope Will is reading.TomOn Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!
--Eric Norriscampyo...@me.comInsta: @CampyOnlyGuyYouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do the different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw driver. I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill, hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc. I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a milwaukee packout kit to it. On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
--Eric Norriscampyo...@me.comInsta: @CampyOnlyGuyYouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright  wrote:I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike. On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality issues.On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018BL in ECOn Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three were Japanese Crane models. 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to drill and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo stem on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most discreet".  Pics or it didn't happenBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell ever made. That's my story and I'm sticking to it  ;  )Jock

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Re: [RBW] Re: posters for Asheville Riv weekend

[Pam Bikes]

And we climbed up the hill, just like the bears in the poster.  The grade 
of the hill even looks accurate.  

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 10:52:49 AM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:

> Those are beautiful.
>
> Looks like a great group came out too!
>
> k.
>
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:41 AM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> And for those of you that weren’t there, the posters are gorgeous.  And 
> accurate - Some bears actually joined some of us during the weekend :)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 9:31:24 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone! There's still a dozen or so commemorative posters left from 
>> our Rivendell owners meet-up in Asheville this past weekend. If you would 
>> like to purchase one, you can do so directly via the link below:
>>
>>
>> https://www.etsy.com/listing/1506233644/rivendell-owners-meetup-asheville-art?click_key=71d5b36ccbdf34afff4d4bc8adbbbab7e4d12242%3A1506233644&click_sum=5861b03c&ref=shop_home_active_1
>>
>> If you were in attendance and failed to get one from me, just shoot me 
>> and email and we'll figure out a way to get one to you.
>>
>> These are 4-color screen prints, 16" x 20", signed and numbered in a 
>> limited edition of 40 on Cougar Natural 100# cover stock. Designed and 
>> hand-printed by yours truly. Thanks! - Brian
>>
>> [image: IMG_5729.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To trade or sell or improve, my 50cm 1988 Bridgestone MB-1

[Pam Bikes]

You deserve a new bike.  If you'd had it this long and it's not dialed in 
yet, I'd get a new bike.  But I just have one and do it all on my Betty Foy.

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 3:19:06 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Just to note, obviously, the Happy Stem is threadless so you would need a 
> quill to threadless adapter.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 3:17:45 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I have a similar issue on a Wabi Thunder and installed a Velo Orange 
>> Happy Stem to get my handlebars higher. It works really well. Another 
>> option I may try (because I can't stop tinkering) is the Velo Orange 
>> Klunker bar.
>>
>> [image: IMG_0181.jpeg]
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 1:50:11 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> This was on a NORBA-type ~19-20 inch c-c 26-er frame.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 11:47 AM Patrick Moore  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ...  I used a 10 cm to get a Noodle high enough and close enough for a 
 road-bike-like position despite very low stack, truncated steerer, top 
 tube 
 about 2-2.5 mm too long (58.4 cm versus 56 to 57 cm), and a short arm/long 
 torso build; and I had considerable quill left over.

>>>

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[RBW] Found, thank you.[ISO/WTB/WTT Zefal pump peg]

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all, I've found one.

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Re: [RBW] Two wheelsets - Phil track, Son / Ultegra touring

[Will Boericke]

Bump for some stylish wheels.  Make me an offer.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:17 PM Will Boericke  wrote:

> So old-fashioned!  White works anytime these days :)
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:57 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>> Obviously, those tires need to be used before Labor Day.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
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>>
>> On Jun 28, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Will Boericke  wrote:
>>
>> Apologies for iBob crosspost, but need a home for these
>>
>> I have two wheelsets that need homes. Both have been hanging inside for a
>> while, neither has seen much use (Phil front wheel has never seen a brake).
>>
>> 1: Phil Wood to Mavic Open Pro 32 spokes. Bonus white Paselas in 25, if
>> that's your thing. 19t fixed cog and Phil lockring to boot. $500 shipped
>>
>> 2. Son front / Ultegra 6700 rear to Open Sports. 36 spokes. 8spd cassette
>> from the era where they'd put a bonus big bailout cog in last place. A
>> beefy wheelset; has seen more use but still not much. Again, been hanging
>> for probably a decade. Schwalbe Delta Cruisers, again in white for style
>> points.
>> $500 shipped
>>
>> More photos here
>> 
>>
>> Will<20230628_161758.jpg><20230628_162111.jpg>
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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[tarik saleh]

That was a great ride.  We should do it again one of these decades. I keep meaning to ditch my flickr account but it proves useful AND searchable so I can find things, which makes it hard to beat.Tarik-- Tarik Salehtas at tariksaleh dot comin los alamos, NM, USA, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.comTarik Saleh Bike Club!: http://tariksaleh.com/tsbcOn Jul 12, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Jamie Hascall  wrote:Wow Tarik! Thanks for posting those pictures! What I find really interesting is that I'm riding the Jamis that I bought when I first got to Santa Fe, and had not yet bought my Saluki. I was just a Riv wannabe at that point. Fun to remember the wind and dust of those Spring New Mexico rides.Cheers!JamieOn Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 9:38:18 PM UTC-7 tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:3/16 of ought eight for the NM Bob ride. Ryan, Patrick, Jamie, Me, Chad, someone on a very nice  legolas who probably wisely bailed early.https://flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/albums/72157604133469712On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:Jamie! I'm sorry, I forgot; the name comes back to me now. The photos show your wife and not you -- now I understand. I wish I could post the video, but even that, which does give an indication of the wind's strength, does not show the compact-car-size tumbleweed clusters that we encountered.I hope the riding in the PNW is as enjoyable as it is here -- at least, here on less windy days.POn Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:12 PM Jamie Hascall  wrote:Yes Patrick, I remember a particularly windy Spring ride with you and Tarik and a few others on the Bosque trail. We were assaulted by huge tumbleweeds on the way downstream, but on the way back the wind had shifted just enough to be fully behind us and gave us a mighty boost for the  uphill run. That was probably that 2008 ride you tried to post. I do miss a lot about the riding we did in NM but between jobs and a need for a moister climate we ended up back in the PNW. Glad to hear you're still cranking.Cheers!JamieOn Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:And that Motobecane is still seeing regular service here in NorCal, now as a rendered three-speed. Still a great bike—Patrick didn’t mention the full Reynolds 531 tubeset and the old school Nervex lugs. Combined with classic French geometry, it makes for a very nice ride.
--Eric Norriscampyo...@me.comInsta: @CampyOnlyGuyYouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

On Jun 20, 2023, at 11:45 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Forgot to add the punch line, as usual, which is that I realized that hanging my 2003 Riv road custom on the wall while I did most of my riding, commuting, on that beater Motobecane, was depriving me of needed fun, so I had local builder Dave Porter convert the Riv into a fixed gear commuter and sold off the Motobecane. The 2003 now-fixed custom saw several years 15-20-mile 1-way commuting duty including bus bike racks, then many grocery errand runs after I started working at home, until it was replaced by a thinner-wall, narrower-gauge tout 531 Chauncey Matthews clone in 2020.On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:41 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:Jamie: I'd guess that the baskets were as material in your "best commuter" award as the bicycle; lovely. Can you name and perhaps provide a link to the source?You are in Santa Fe? I'm in the bosque in Albuquerque. We had a (IIRC) pre-RBW-list NM iBob ride 15 years ago; perhaps there are enough iBobbers and RBW-listers to hold another Riv/Riv-like cyclist get-together.I tried to attach a very short video from that 2008 ride, but the system kicked it back for being too big. I did wear a Rivendell wool jersey and rode a Rivendellianesque if not Rivendellian 1973 Motobecane Grand Record beater commuter fixed gear.Patrick "68 now, 53 then" Moore who rode a 67" fixed gear into a howling NM spring Southerly.On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:29 AM Jamie Hascall  wrote:Here are a couple of pictures of Betsy with her Glorious in its glory days. Posting these is much more satisfying than the faded glory photo I posted earlier. It took a bit of digging in her archive to find these. <6E3BCDA7-536D-4785-B781-0DA184BA25CB.jpeg>Winner of "Best Commuter Bike" at Santa Fe bicycle fest<1F0A66D9-915C-442E-A740-5B0C89854E30.jpeg><26FBB81B-57A6-4790-8EB2-FA7402A15A39.jpeg>Our pair of Rivs, ready to ride!-- ---Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] FS German Mirror

[Frank Brose]

Have one pending Nick Your next in line.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 3:15:56 PM UTC-5 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m interested if you still have it.Have pay pal too.
>
> Nick L.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jul 12, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Frank Brose  wrote:
>
> Same deal as Eric offered up. His post reminded me I have one as well. 
> NIB. Has been removed from bag but put back in bag and in the box. $15 plus 
> shipping.
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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for the nostalgia, Tarik.

Those were the days -- March 2008. Look at the saddle to bar drop on the
Motobecane. 67" fixed gear. Bar and saddle are much closer nowadays, and my
hair is a lot shorter and grayer. I miss the jersey and the home-made
knickers (very nice wool gabardine dress pants). But I must resurrect
clips-n-straps.

The Legolas was ridden by a Presbyterian Hospital ER physician (I think ER;
not enough of an **s**le to be a surgeon) from Corrales who had a
collection of just about every Rivendell model from the time. He turned
around because of the wind. I haven't seen him for years.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:57 PM Jamie Hascall  wrote:

> Wow Tarik! Thanks for posting those pictures! What I find really
> interesting is that I'm riding the Jamis that I bought when I first got to
> Santa Fe, and had not yet bought my Saluki. I was just a Riv wannabe at
> that point. Fun to remember the wind and dust of those Spring New Mexico
> rides.
>
> Cheers!
> Jamie
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 9:38:18 PM UTC-7 tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 3/16 of ought eight for the NM Bob ride. Ryan, Patrick, Jamie, Me, Chad,
>> someone on a very nice  legolas who probably wisely bailed early.
>> https://flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/albums/72157604133469712
>>
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[RBW] Bay-Area bike shipping advice

[Bob]

Can anyone here recommend a Bay-Area, preferably San Francisco, bike shop 
who will reliably do a conscientious and careful packing job to ship a 
complete bike via Bike Flights?

I'm exploring a private purchase of a bike that is in SF and needs to get 
to Boulder, Colorado, and I've read the stories here of both excellent and 
awful stories about this sort of experience.

Thank you.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: NITTO R12

[Bill Lindsay]

Which one is/was the Nitto R12?  Can you find a photo of the thing you want 
to buy?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-7 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> Anyone holding? I believe the niche rack is my only hope!

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Re: [RBW] FS German Mirror

[Nick Lindsey]

I’m interested if you still have it.    Have pay pal too.Nick L.Sent from my iPadOn Jul 12, 2023, at 12:22 PM, Frank Brose  wrote:Same deal as Eric offered up. His post reminded me I have one as well. NIB. Has been removed from bag but put back in bag and in the box. $15 plus shipping.thanks,Frank



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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Jamie Hascall]

Wow Tarik! Thanks for posting those pictures! What I find really 
interesting is that I'm riding the Jamis that I bought when I first got to 
Santa Fe, and had not yet bought my Saluki. I was just a Riv wannabe at 
that point. Fun to remember the wind and dust of those Spring New Mexico 
rides.

Cheers!
Jamie

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 9:38:18 PM UTC-7 tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

> 3/16 of ought eight for the NM Bob ride. Ryan, Patrick, Jamie, Me, Chad, 
> someone on a very nice  legolas who probably wisely bailed early.
> https://flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/albums/72157604133469712
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Jamie! I'm sorry, I forgot; the name comes back to me now. The photos 
>> show your wife and not you -- now I understand. I wish I could post the 
>> video, but even that, which does give an indication of the wind's strength, 
>> does not show the compact-car-size tumbleweed clusters that we encountered.
>>
>> I hope the riding in the PNW is as enjoyable as it is here -- at least, 
>> here on less windy days.
>>
>> P
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:12 PM Jamie Hascall  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Patrick, I remember a particularly windy Spring ride with you and 
>>> Tarik and a few others on the Bosque trail. We were assaulted by huge 
>>> tumbleweeds on the way downstream, but on the way back the wind had shifted 
>>> just enough to be fully behind us and gave us a mighty boost for the 
>>>  uphill run. That was probably that 2008 ride you tried to post. I do miss 
>>> a lot about the riding we did in NM but between jobs and a need for a 
>>> moister climate we ended up back in the PNW. Glad to hear you're still 
>>> cranking.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 And that Motobecane is still seeing regular service here in NorCal, now 
 as a rendered three-speed. Still a great bike—Patrick didn’t mention the 
 full Reynolds 531 tubeset and the old school Nervex lugs. Combined with 
 classic French geometry, it makes for a very nice ride.

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

 On Jun 20, 2023, at 11:45 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

 Forgot to add the punch line, as usual, which is that I realized that 
 hanging my 2003 Riv road custom on the wall while I did most of my riding, 
 commuting, on that beater Motobecane, was depriving me of needed fun, so I 
 had local builder Dave Porter convert the Riv into a fixed gear commuter 
 and sold off the Motobecane. The 2003 now-fixed custom saw several years 
 15-20-mile 1-way commuting duty including bus bike racks, then many 
 grocery 
 errand runs after I started working at home, until it was replaced by a 
 thinner-wall, narrower-gauge* tout 531* Chauncey Matthews clone in 
 2020.

 On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 12:41 PM Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

 Jamie: I'd guess that the baskets were as material in your "best 
> commuter" award as the bicycle; lovely. Can you name and perhaps provide 
> a 
> link to the source?
>
> You are in Santa Fe? I'm in the bosque in Albuquerque. We had a (IIRC) 
> pre-RBW-list NM iBob ride 15 years ago; perhaps there are enough iBobbers 
> and RBW-listers to hold another Riv/Riv-like cyclist get-together.
>
> I tried to attach a very short video from that 2008 ride, but the 
> system kicked it back for being too big. I did wear a Rivendell wool 
> jersey 
> and rode a Rivendellianesque if not Rivendellian 1973 Motobecane Grand 
> Record beater commuter fixed gear.
>
> Patrick "68 now, 53 then" Moore who rode a 67" fixed gear into a 
> howling NM spring Southerly.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:29 AM Jamie Hascall  
> wrote:
>
 Here are a couple of pictures of Betsy with her Glorious in its glory 
>> days. Posting these is much more satisfying than the faded glory photo I 
>> posted earlier. It took a bit of digging in her archive to find these. 
>> <6E3BCDA7-536D-4785-B781-0DA184BA25CB.jpeg>
>>
> Winner of "Best Commuter Bike" at Santa Fe bicycle fest
>>
> <1F0A66D9-915C-442E-A740-5B0C89854E30.jpeg>
>> <26FBB81B-57A6-4790-8EB2-FA7402A15A39.jpeg>
>>
> Our pair of Rivs, ready to ride!
>>
> -- 

 ---
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 Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum


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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Mackenzy Albright]

Thanks for the kind words all. I quite love the utilitarian versatility of 
the Clementine. 

I found a full sized silky biking and was convinced of their excellence. 
The Pocket boy is just as good! If you want another fun pocket-sized saw 
that is even smaller check out. It'd be great for cutting small kindling. 

https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/saws/japanese/69363-retractable-japanese-saw?item=60T2230

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:44:42 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been laughed at for my Pocket-Boy saw in my bikepacking kit... until 
> you basically save the trip with it, then everyone suddenly realizes its 
> worth.
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:40 PM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>
>> Mackenzy,
>>
>> Wow, your bike belongs on the RivBike instagram/website/email somewhere. 
>> I love to see working bikes. I hope Will is reading.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do 
>>> the different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an 
>>> assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to 
>>> right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord 
>>> pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien 
>>> scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw 
>>> driver. 
>>>
>>> I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill, 
>>> hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc. 
>>>
>>> I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a 
>>> milwaukee packout kit to it. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile 
 hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

 On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
 wrote:

 


 I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my 
 moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them 
 on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from 
 Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well 
 enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually 
 because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use 
 a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike. 

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where 
> you can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any 
> quality issues.
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread 
>> pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a 
>> bell 
>> onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
>>
>> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube 
>> shifter boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under 
>>> the top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a 
 number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All 
 three 
 were Japanese Crane models. 

 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to 
 drill and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli 
 Sesamo 
 stem on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for 
 "most 
 discreet".  

 Pics or it didn't happen
 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:

> Here's nice image of

[RBW] FS German Mirror

[Frank Brose]

Same deal as Eric offered up. His post reminded me I have one as well. NIB. 
Has been removed from bag but put back in bag and in the box. $15 plus 
shipping.
thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] DIY Nitto rack hoop

[Jay Lonner]

One of the downsides of the Big Back Rack is that it doesn’t come with the 
tombstone/backstop feature that hooks so nicely into the leather patch 
designed for that purpose on my large SaddlesSack. I’m thinking of making 
one myself using daruma fixtures and a rack stay bent to fit. Does anybody 
have experience with this sort of fabrication? Can you get a nice radius 
bend with a bench vise and a soup can, or do you need a tubing bender? 
Alternatively — and this is a long shot — if anybody has an old or damaged 
rack with this feature, I’d be interested in buying it and trying my hand 
at a tombstone transplant.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Brian Turner]

I've been laughed at for my Pocket-Boy saw in my bikepacking kit... until
you basically save the trip with it, then everyone suddenly realizes its
worth.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:40 PM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> Mackenzy,
>
> Wow, your bike belongs on the RivBike instagram/website/email somewhere. I
> love to see working bikes. I hope Will is reading.
>
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright <
>> mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do
>> the different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an
>> assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to
>> right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord
>> pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien
>> scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw
>> driver.
>>
>> I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill,
>> hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc.
>>
>> I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a
>> milwaukee packout kit to it.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile
>>> hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my
>>> moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them
>>> on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from
>>> Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well
>>> enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually
>>> because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use
>>> a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where
 you can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any
 quality issues.

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread
> pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell
> onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out.
>
> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter
> boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under
>> the top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a
>>> number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three
>>> were Japanese Crane models.
>>>
>>> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
>>> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
>>> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to
>>> drill and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo
>>> stem on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most
>>> discreet".
>>>
>>> Pics or it didn't happen
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking,
 smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made.
 That's my story and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*

 Jock

 [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]

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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Brian Turner]

This bike was already cool enough... but now, with the work-bike context it
just sends it to another level.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright <
> mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do the
> different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an
> assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to
> right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord
> pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien
> scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw
> driver.
>
> I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill,
> hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc.
>
> I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a
> milwaukee packout kit to it.
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile
>> hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my
>> moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them
>> on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from
>> Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well
>> enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually
>> because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use
>> a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you
>>> can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread
 pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell
 onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out.

 Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter
 boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain.

 [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under
> the top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>
> BL in EC
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a
>> number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three
>> were Japanese Crane models.
>>
>> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
>> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
>> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to
>> drill and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo
>> stem on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most
>> discreet".
>>
>> Pics or it didn't happen
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking,
>>> smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made.
>>> That's my story and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Tom Wyland]

Mackenzy,

Wow, your bike belongs on the RivBike instagram/website/email somewhere. I
love to see working bikes. I hope Will is reading.

Tom

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 1:34 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright <
> mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do the
> different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an
> assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to
> right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord
> pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien
> scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw
> driver.
>
> I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill,
> hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc.
>
> I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a
> milwaukee packout kit to it.
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile
>> hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my
>> moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them
>> on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from
>> Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well
>> enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually
>> because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use
>> a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you
>>> can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread
 pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell
 onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out.

 Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter
 boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain.

 [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under
> the top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>
> BL in EC
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a
>> number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three
>> were Japanese Crane models.
>>
>> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
>> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
>> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to
>> drill and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo
>> stem on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most
>> discreet".
>>
>> Pics or it didn't happen
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking,
>>> smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made.
>>> That's my story and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very cool bike … and job! Thanks!

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 12, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
> 
> Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do the 
> different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an 
> assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to 
> right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord 
> pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien scissors, 
> higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw driver. 
> 
> I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill, hammer, 
> tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc. 
> 
> I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a 
> milwaukee packout kit to it. 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>> I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile 
>> hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com <>
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my 
>>> moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them 
>>> on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from 
>>> Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well 
>>> enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually 
>>> because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use 
>>> a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike. 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com <> wrote:
 Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you 
 can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality 
 issues.
 
 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread 
> pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a 
> bell onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
> 
> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter 
> boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the 
>> top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>> 
>> BL in EC
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a number 
>>> of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three were 
>>> Japanese Crane models. 
>>> 
>>> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
>>> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
>>> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to drill 
>>> and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo stem 
>>> on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most 
>>> discreet".  
>>> 
>>> Pics or it didn't happen
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
 Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, 
 smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell ever made. That's my 
 story and I'm sticking to it  ;  )
 
 Jock
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Mackenzy Albright]

Eric - I am a museum technician. I use my clementine to bring tools do the 
different gallery spaces I work in. The bag is a aerial tote with an 
assortment of tools I use for exhibition installations. Furthest left to 
right  is a Silky Pocket Boy saw, Snap-on Ratcheting screw driver, Svord 
pocket knife, occidental pouch with a flush cut pliers, small klien 
scissors, higonokami knife, pica pencil, and spot for the ratcheting screw 
driver. 

I have a bunch of other things in the bag like a 12v milwaukee drill, 
hammer, tape measure, pliers, various scrapers, square, etc etc etc. 

I've thought about building a bike with a Clydesdale and attaching a 
milwaukee packout kit to it. 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile 
> hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my 
> moose bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them 
> on prime handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from 
> Jan Heine somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well 
> enough - wasn't hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually 
> because I decided I didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use 
> a saddle bag. I would consider this placement again on the right bike. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you 
>> can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality 
>> issues.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread 
>>> pitches are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell 
>>> onto a stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
>>>
>>> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter 
>>> boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the 
 top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018

 BL in EC
 On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a 
> number of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three 
> were Japanese Crane models. 
>
> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to 
> drill and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo 
> stem on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most 
> discreet".  
>
> Pics or it didn't happen
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>
>> Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, 
>> smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made. 
>> That's my story and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Most Discreet Bell Placement

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’m intrigued by the assortment of items in your handlebar bag. Mobile 
hairdresser? Dog groomer? Other? Inquiring minds want to know ...

--Eric Norris
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Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Jul 12, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I usually place my bell on my stem - but was playing with fit so had my moose 
> bars slammed. I like keeping hand positions open so don't like them on prime 
> handlebar real estate. I am pretty certain I stole this one from Jan Heine 
> somewhere - but it easily fit under my seat. It worked well enough - wasn't 
> hard to reach. I moved it back to the stem eventually because I decided I 
> didn't need my stem slammed and like to be able to use a saddle bag. I would 
> consider this placement again on the right bike. 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:26:56 AM UTC-7 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you can 
>> get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality 
>> issues.
>> 
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com <> wrote:
>>> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread pitches 
>>> are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell onto a 
>>> stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
>>> 
>>> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter 
>>> boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
 I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the 
 top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
 
 BL in EC
 On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a number 
> of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three were 
> Japanese Crane models. 
> 
> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to drill 
> and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo stem 
> on my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most 
> discreet".  
> 
> Pics or it didn't happen
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> 
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>> Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, 
>> smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell ever made. That's my 
>> story and I'm sticking to it  ;  )
>> 
>> Jock
>> 
>> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Most Discreet Bell Placement

[James M]

Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you 
can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality 
issues.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread pitches 
> are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell onto a 
> stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
>
> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter 
> boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the 
>> top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a number 
>>> of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three were 
>>> Japanese Crane models. 
>>>
>>> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
>>> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
>>> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to drill 
>>> and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo stem on 
>>> my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most 
>>> discreet".  
>>>
>>> Pics or it didn't happen
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, 
 smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made. That's 
 my story and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*

 Jock

 [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] WTB: NITTO R12

[Davey Two Shoes]

Anyone holding? I believe the niche rack is my only hope!

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[RBW] Re: FS: German mirror, Suntour Bar-cons

[Eric Marth]

Mirror is sold!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 11:07:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi all — Another for sale post. Please contact me off list to purchase. 
> PayPal friends and family or Venmo for payment. 
>
> [image: IMG_6695.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_6696.JPG]
>
> Brand new German lightweight mirror from Rivendell: $15 plus shipping. 
>
> [image: IMG_6697.JPG]
>
> Suntour AccuShift bar-cons: $45 plus shipping. 
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[RBW] Re: soma-champs-elysees-mini-front-rack On a Sam

[iamkeith]

I've got an unused one I can sell you cheap.  I can take measurements if 
you need.  It is indeed sturdier than the nitto racks, both because of the 
fixed strut and the thicker diving board.  I got it for my Saluki.  The fit 
was spot-on (I suspect it was designed for the Rivendell-standard), but the 
diving board interfered with my Paul Racer brakes.  I don't think any other 
brakes should be an issue, but measurements should confirm.
On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:08:09 AM UTC-6 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm thinking about this rack, but I'm a little shy to pull the trigger 
> since its not adjustable. It seems sturdier than the M-18 and I like he 
> look. Does anyone run this on a Sam, did it fit without issue? I run Paul 
> Mini Moto brakes, I dont expect an issue there but who knows.
>
> Thanks for the help!
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Re: [RBW] Anyone Tried RH Snoqualmie Pass on a Sam?

[Eric Marth]

Oh, also added Campagnolo front and rear skewers that I found in a dumpster 
and a Suntour seat post clamp. 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 11:38:16 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Thanks, Tim. The original build video is here: 
> https://youtu.be/0OmJRDn5R8I 
>
> Since the video I replaced the crank with a SunXCD 44/26 and the front and 
> rear derailers with Suntour Cyclones. The rear cassette is one of the 
> S-Ride 7 speeds, 12-32, I believe. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:19:53 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Charlie, Cheers to you as a fellow DTT Sam rider. I also have that 
>> same crankset. I've decided to go for the 44's. I think I will fit them no 
>> problem. Photos to follow. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4 charlie...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Tim,
>>>
>>> I rode the Snoqualmie Pass tires on my Sam with Paul Racers and VO 
>>> fenders and never had any issues. Really loved those tires. Now I have some 
>>> Oracle Ridge 48mm and they have a good amount of clearance. No fenders 
>>> though!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-6534.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 Eric, that is a beautiful build! I wish my Sam looked as nice. I've 
 decided to go for the 44 Snoqualmie's. I'll post pictures once I get them 
 set up. Thanks for the inspiration!

 On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:06:45 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Tim — I have a 2009 Sam Hillborne and I run Snoqualmie Pass tires 
> with Paul MiniMoto brakes. No trouble removing the tires, no need to 
> deflate. Looks like I'd have room for up to a 48mm without fenders. 
>
> The RH tires are certainly expensive but I've found the extralight and 
> endurance casings are the best, the standard casings just so-so.  The 
> extralights are dreamy and, in my experience, faster tires. 
>
> [image: IMG_1369 3.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 1:27:20 PM UTC-4 J C wrote:
>
>> Tim, you should be good to go. The RH 44s generally run small. I've 
>> fit them under the tektro sidepulls on my 2014 blue Sam no problemo!
>>
>> -James
>>
>> On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 6:23:42 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can’t speak to your tire clearance but I just put these tires on my 
>>> gravel bike (measured 43.75 for the extra light on 25mm ID rims) and 
>>> they’re fricken amazing. Feel fast on the road and capable of up to 
>>> medium 
>>> gravel. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 6:17 PM Tim Bantham  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thinking about new tires for my Sam. Has anyone fit the 700x44 Rene 
 Herse Snoqualmie pass? My Sam is circa 2014 and has Paul Racers. 
 Easily 
 clears a 38 so I am thinking about going ever larger to the 44. Anyone 
 out 
 there who has tried this tire on their  non-canti Sam?


 Tim

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Re: [RBW] Anyone Tried RH Snoqualmie Pass on a Sam?

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Tim. The original build video is here: https://youtu.be/0OmJRDn5R8I 

Since the video I replaced the crank with a SunXCD 44/26 and the front and 
rear derailers with Suntour Cyclones. The rear cassette is one of the 
S-Ride 7 speeds, 12-32, I believe. 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:19:53 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks Charlie, Cheers to you as a fellow DTT Sam rider. I also have that 
> same crankset. I've decided to go for the 44's. I think I will fit them no 
> problem. Photos to follow. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4 charlie...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Tim,
>>
>> I rode the Snoqualmie Pass tires on my Sam with Paul Racers and VO 
>> fenders and never had any issues. Really loved those tires. Now I have some 
>> Oracle Ridge 48mm and they have a good amount of clearance. No fenders 
>> though!
>>
>> [image: IMG-6534.jpg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, that is a beautiful build! I wish my Sam looked as nice. I've 
>>> decided to go for the 44 Snoqualmie's. I'll post pictures once I get them 
>>> set up. Thanks for the inspiration!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:06:45 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Tim — I have a 2009 Sam Hillborne and I run Snoqualmie Pass tires 
 with Paul MiniMoto brakes. No trouble removing the tires, no need to 
 deflate. Looks like I'd have room for up to a 48mm without fenders. 

 The RH tires are certainly expensive but I've found the extralight and 
 endurance casings are the best, the standard casings just so-so.  The 
 extralights are dreamy and, in my experience, faster tires. 

 [image: IMG_1369 3.jpg]

 On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 1:27:20 PM UTC-4 J C wrote:

> Tim, you should be good to go. The RH 44s generally run small. I've 
> fit them under the tektro sidepulls on my 2014 blue Sam no problemo!
>
> -James
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 6:23:42 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can’t speak to your tire clearance but I just put these tires on my 
>> gravel bike (measured 43.75 for the extra light on 25mm ID rims) and 
>> they’re fricken amazing. Feel fast on the road and capable of up to 
>> medium 
>> gravel. 
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 6:17 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking about new tires for my Sam. Has anyone fit the 700x44 Rene 
>>> Herse Snoqualmie pass? My Sam is circa 2014 and has Paul Racers. Easily 
>>> clears a 38 so I am thinking about going ever larger to the 44. Anyone 
>>> out 
>>> there who has tried this tire on their  non-canti Sam?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale: Front derailers

[Eric Marth]

Ultegra is sold. Thanks!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:50:02 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi friends — I have a few front derailers for sale. Hit me up off-list to 
> purchase. Thanks! 
>
> [image: IMG_6700.JPG]
>
> XT M738: $40 plus shipping
> 28.6 clamp diameter. Designed as an 8-speed for triples. Pictured top 
> left. 
>
> Ultegra 6503: $40 plus shipping
> 31.8 clamp diameter with 28.6 clamp shims included. Designed as a 9-speed 
> for triples. Pictured top right. 
>
> Deore XT M771: $15 plus shipping
> 28.6 clamp diameter. This came with my Appaloosa which was running a 38/24 
> double. Pictured on the bottom. 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[larson....@gmail.com]

I was going to mention the same thing!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:50:36 AM UTC-5 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> The rear derailleur on that eBay Lantis is not long for this world!  Yikes!
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:47:24 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> ebay.com 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2023, at 3:52 PM, larson@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. I 
>> have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
>> Thank you,
>> Randy in WI
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Re: [RBW] Anyone Tried RH Snoqualmie Pass on a Sam?

[Tim Bantham]

Thanks Charlie, Cheers to you as a fellow DTT Sam rider. I also have that 
same crankset. I've decided to go for the 44's. I think I will fit them no 
problem. Photos to follow. 

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Tim,
>
> I rode the Snoqualmie Pass tires on my Sam with Paul Racers and VO fenders 
> and never had any issues. Really loved those tires. Now I have some Oracle 
> Ridge 48mm and they have a good amount of clearance. No fenders though!
>
> [image: IMG-6534.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Eric, that is a beautiful build! I wish my Sam looked as nice. I've 
>> decided to go for the 44 Snoqualmie's. I'll post pictures once I get them 
>> set up. Thanks for the inspiration!
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:06:45 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim — I have a 2009 Sam Hillborne and I run Snoqualmie Pass tires 
>>> with Paul MiniMoto brakes. No trouble removing the tires, no need to 
>>> deflate. Looks like I'd have room for up to a 48mm without fenders. 
>>>
>>> The RH tires are certainly expensive but I've found the extralight and 
>>> endurance casings are the best, the standard casings just so-so.  The 
>>> extralights are dreamy and, in my experience, faster tires. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1369 3.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 1:27:20 PM UTC-4 J C wrote:
>>>
 Tim, you should be good to go. The RH 44s generally run small. I've fit 
 them under the tektro sidepulls on my 2014 blue Sam no problemo!

 -James

 On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 6:23:42 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can’t speak to your tire clearance but I just put these tires on my 
> gravel bike (measured 43.75 for the extra light on 25mm ID rims) and 
> they’re fricken amazing. Feel fast on the road and capable of up to 
> medium 
> gravel. 
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 6:17 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:
>
>> Thinking about new tires for my Sam. Has anyone fit the 700x44 Rene 
>> Herse Snoqualmie pass? My Sam is circa 2014 and has Paul Racers. Easily 
>> clears a 38 so I am thinking about going ever larger to the 44. Anyone 
>> out 
>> there who has tried this tire on their  non-canti Sam?
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
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[RBW] soma-champs-elysees-mini-front-rack On a Sam

[Davey Two Shoes]

Hi All,
I'm thinking about this rack, but I'm a little shy to pull the trigger 
since its not adjustable. It seems sturdier than the M-18 and I like he 
look. Does anyone run this on a Sam, did it fit without issue? I run Paul 
Mini Moto brakes, I dont expect an issue there but who knows.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Atlantis MIT 59cm or 62cm Frameset

[Brendan Willard in SF]

The rear derailleur on that eBay Lantis is not long for this world!  Yikes!

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:47:24 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> ebay.com 
>  
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2023, at 3:52 PM, larson@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Looking far an Atlantis to set up for dirt road exploring and touring. I 
> have an Appaloosa, but looking for bigger tire clearance.
> Thank you,
> Randy in WI
>
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Re: [RBW] Anyone Tried RH Snoqualmie Pass on a Sam?

[Tim Bantham]

Eric, that is a beautiful build! I wish my Sam looked as nice. I've decided 
to go for the 44 Snoqualmie's. I'll post pictures once I get them set up. 
Thanks for the inspiration!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 8:06:45 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Tim — I have a 2009 Sam Hillborne and I run Snoqualmie Pass tires with 
> Paul MiniMoto brakes. No trouble removing the tires, no need to deflate. 
> Looks like I'd have room for up to a 48mm without fenders. 
>
> The RH tires are certainly expensive but I've found the extralight and 
> endurance casings are the best, the standard casings just so-so.  The 
> extralights are dreamy and, in my experience, faster tires. 
>
> [image: IMG_1369 3.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 1:27:20 PM UTC-4 J C wrote:
>
>> Tim, you should be good to go. The RH 44s generally run small. I've fit 
>> them under the tektro sidepulls on my 2014 blue Sam no problemo!
>>
>> -James
>>
>> On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 6:23:42 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Can’t speak to your tire clearance but I just put these tires on my 
>>> gravel bike (measured 43.75 for the extra light on 25mm ID rims) and 
>>> they’re fricken amazing. Feel fast on the road and capable of up to medium 
>>> gravel. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 6:17 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:
>>>
 Thinking about new tires for my Sam. Has anyone fit the 700x44 Rene 
 Herse Snoqualmie pass? My Sam is circa 2014 and has Paul Racers. Easily 
 clears a 38 so I am thinking about going ever larger to the 44. Anyone out 
 there who has tried this tire on their  non-canti Sam?


 Tim

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[RBW] Re: Most Discreet Bell Placement

[Bill Lindsay]

I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the top 
tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018

BL in EC
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a number of 
> bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three were Japanese 
> Crane models. 
>
> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to drill 
> and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo stem on 
> my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most 
> discreet".  
>
> Pics or it didn't happen
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>
>> Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, smartly 
>> engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made. That's my story 
>> and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]
>>
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