[RBW] Re: Off topic but perhaps permissible ....??? Pipes

[Nathan Mattia]

I’m your man, Patrick. Glad you remember the blog. Pm sent. 

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:06:44 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Technically, Patrick, steel tubing is pipe so I think you're well within 
> the permissible limits of RBW Owners Bunch.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:48:19 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Riv content: Deacon Patrick was big on pipes, and a listmember used to 
>> have a "Pipes and Leather" blog. And I bet Grant smokes a pipe.
>>
>> If anyone knows something about good pipes and good unscented Virginia 
>> tobacco, will that person contact me offlist at bertin753 [at] geemale dot 
>> com?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> ---
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

[John Rinker]

Nice Campyguy! I have put this bike shop on the Riv Rider's Map 
 and I'm wondering 
if I might add one of your photos to the pin?

Cheers,
John

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:18:20 PM UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> Nice find Eric. Thank you for posting. Good on you for your PBP volunteer 
> efforts!:-)
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:52:52 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> In its way just as laudable as ridingvolunteers contribute so much 
>> IME. I hope for everyone's sake the temperatures aren't as fierce as they 
>> have been everywhere this summer. 
>>
>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Friends and I are run I g the drop bag service for American riders this 
>>> year. So I’m here but not riding. 
>>>
>>> –Eric N
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:50 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>>>
>>> As the French would know. Eric, are you riding PBP or just on a visit? 
>>> Inquiring minds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:37:57 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 The sticker to the left,  “Acier is Real,” is a mashup of French and 
 English for “Steel is Real.”

 –Eric N


 On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:22 PM, JohnS  wrote:

 Thank Eric!


 La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe 
 something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most 
 appropriate.

 JohnS

 On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard 
> Magenta in the 10th. 
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[RBW] Re: Off topic but perhaps permissible ....??? Pipes

[John Rinker]

Technically, Patrick, steel tubing is pipe so I think you're well within 
the permissible limits of RBW Owners Bunch.

Cheers, John

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:48:19 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Riv content: Deacon Patrick was big on pipes, and a listmember used to 
> have a "Pipes and Leather" blog. And I bet Grant smokes a pipe.
>
> If anyone knows something about good pipes and good unscented Virginia 
> tobacco, will that person contact me offlist at bertin753 [at] geemale dot 
> com?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Kim H.]

@David Jones -  I enjoyed reading your post. Hearing another facet of 
perspectives of your thoughts on " A College Clem". Very well written I 
must say. 

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:20:07 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Hi David, 
>
> Thank you for asking about Dad. Dad was a darling, the kind of man you 
> love to love. He died too young, only 62.
>
> Dad taught me many things, but this is a lesson he never meant to teach…
>
> Dad took meticulous care of his things. He collected historical books and 
> had each one jacketed at our local library. He never used soap in the 
> whirlpool, believing it would wreck it. He put a tablecloth over their 
> Amish-made dining room table, fearing that the wood would be scratched. He 
> was gentle and careful and he tried to keep his things looking new. He 
> always said when he retired he would buy two things: a new pickup and a new 
> boat. 
>
> He got a ding in the prop of that new boat and agonized over it. He 
> planned to replace the propeller so it would look new again. He hesitated 
> to trailer the boat to my brother’s house across the state, fearing some 
> sort of cosmetic damage would befall it. (Mom forced his hand because she 
> wanted to take the grandkids boating.) He got his new truck but mostly 
> drove his old one, wanting to “keep the miles off” the new one. The 
> beautiful, expensive new truck sat, parked in the driveway. 
>
> He died suddenly, soon after retiring. The truck was the first thing we 
> sold. 
>
> Dad taught me a lot of things, but his final, unintended lesson taught me 
> not to sit on my treasures, but to use them and enjoy them. 
>
> Thanks again,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2023, at 12:37 PM, David Jones  wrote:
>
> 
> Well, Leah, you sure opened up a thread that everyone seems to want to 
> weigh in on, and a thread that seems to be enjoying a longevity that few 
> can match.
>
> One thought I had that hasn't been covered by anyone, yet, is:  "What 
> would your father's wishes be for this bike?  Which of the different 
> actions you are considering would honor his memory to the fullest degree 
> possible?" 
>
> My original, brief, response was to keep it home during college to protect 
> it from being stolen.  My thinking was that "it's a long life" and your son 
> will have a better chance of staying connected to his grandfather by having 
> decades to enjoy riding the bike.  But if your father was a person who was 
> a "pin your ears back" risk taker who approached life as if there were no 
> guarantees of tomorrow or appreciated a certain detachment to "things," 
> then by all means "seize the day" and send the bike with your son to 
> college, fully recognizing the inherent risks involved and, hopefully, 
> having made peace with the possibility of him graduating from college 
> without the bike in his possession.
>
> David Jones
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:52 PM Davey Two Shoes  
> wrote:
>
>> Send Grandpa's Clem! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:29:17 PM UTC-4 Will wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yes it might help a bit if the bike didn't look so new. With a 
>>> few duct tape patches that can be easily solved without hurting the frame. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-5 Will wrote:
>>>
 When I was in college I had a Raleigh Competition and a Raleigh RRA 
 (French metric Raleigh bike). It was a small campus in Williamsburg, VA. I 
 had no problems with either bike. Yes, I locked them. Yes, I didn't leave 
 them out at night and so on, but my point is... with a good U lock and 
 maybe some wheel theft clamps, I think you'll be fine. No one is looking 
 for a classic steel bike  these days. Now they want carbon and disc 
 brakes. 
 And there are plenty of those bikes to steal. I'd give him the Clem. 

 Will

 On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:05:31 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I've been thinking about this situation a lot. (And thinking back 
> about 20 years to my time in college.) I was from a small town, and went 
> to 
> a large public school. I learned a lot, and a lot of learning is through 
> mistakes. I did lots of dumb stuff, and minus the time I went flying over 
> the handlebars and got an ambulance ride, I was lucky to escape without 
> life-altering implications. My grandpa died when I was in college, and I 
> still treasure a few small items I have from him. Ultimately, things are 
> things, but some things mean more than others. It will be up to your 
> family 
> to decide the best route. I'm not sure it's been mentioned before, but 
> any 
> thought to taking an entirely different bike first semester/first year 
> with 
> the plan to revisit taking the Clem second semester/sophomore year? 
>
> Good luck with your decision.
> Matt in STL
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 

[RBW] FS: Dromarti leather cycling shoes

[David Linden]

I would like to sell a pair of size 45 brown Dromarti  Sportivo cycling 
shoes' These are  listed as men's shoes, are new in the box,, never worn. I 
purchased these about 4-5 years ago when it appeared that the oriiginal 
company owner was going to close the business.

I already owned a pair of brown and also black Sportivo's, liked them so 
much that I wanted to keep another pair for the future. Little did I know 
jjust how long they  lhave lasted with little  signs of wear. Unlike me! 
The company has since been taken over by by it's current owner.

They are size 45  retro style, nicely adjustable with waxed laces.The most 
comfortable cycling shoes in my experience. Soft leather with soft leather 
liners. They fit me like Shimano shoes. Would not advise guys with super 
wide feet to apply. Check out Dromarti.com for high res photos.These appear 
to be Jan Heine's favorite shoe and I learned of them via Jan's Bicycle 
Quarterly.

Current price is $325 including shipping from the UK. I would like to get 
at least $275 including  shipping. Not a big savings from retail, but $50 
is $50, if you have been yearning to try these. Thanks for looking.

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Re: [RBW] NMSW

[John Rinker]

Hey Josh,

I recently built up some Velocity Cliffhangers with nmsw. I also have a set 
that do have machined sidewalls. I've run them both- mostly in dry 
conditions, but some wet- and I can't really tell any difference in 
stopping time or power. I have a pair of Avid arch supremes doing the rim 
grabbing and they are amazing. So, maybe in comes down to the kind of 
brakes, but in my case no discernable difference.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, John

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:40:18 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:

> I had this concern before getting some non-machined Atlases a few years 
> back. Turned out to not matter at all for performance from my perspective, 
> and once your pads pick up some dust/grit they will rough up the rim 
> surface a bit anyway. 
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:49:02 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> He didn't exactly say not to go with the cliffhangers just said "hey 
>> those rims are NMSW, are you ok with that?" which gave me pause. So I 
>> thought about it and all of my rim brake wheels have had machined side 
>> walls. Maybe a BMX bike or two when I was young were NMSW but I can't 
>> remember. Figured I'd ask before ordering wheels and regretting it. 
>>
>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 6:44:21 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That is very odd. Aren't machined brake tracks relative recent (I mean, 
>>> starting from the 1990s, or perhaps 1980s? People managed to stop just fine 
>>> before that. And I've been using a stash of Sun M14As and ME14As for almost 
>>> 30 years and those don't have machined braking tracks; salmon pads stop 
>>> just fine on my single pivot calipers.
>>>
>>> All the old road bike rim classics: MA2s, Open Pros, etc,? Hell, even 
>>> chromed steel rims work fine with cheap rubber brake pads in dry conditions.
>>>
>>> I think he's trying to sell you a new pair of rims. 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 4:19 PM Josh C  wrote:
>>>
 Looking for your take on non-machined side wall wheels with rim brakes. 
 Poor stopping power? 

 I don't have experience with NMSW and rim brakes but just reached out 
 to a wheel builder about building a set of polished cliffhanger wheels and 
 they cautioned me regarding the NMSW. Figured I'd see what experience you 
 all have with 'em. 

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Re: [RBW] NMSW

[tellyoutoday]

I had this concern before getting some non-machined Atlases a few years 
back. Turned out to not matter at all for performance from my perspective, 
and once your pads pick up some dust/grit they will rough up the rim 
surface a bit anyway. 

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:49:02 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> He didn't exactly say not to go with the cliffhangers just said "hey those 
> rims are NMSW, are you ok with that?" which gave me pause. So I thought 
> about it and all of my rim brake wheels have had machined side walls. Maybe 
> a BMX bike or two when I was young were NMSW but I can't remember. Figured 
> I'd ask before ordering wheels and regretting it. 
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 6:44:21 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That is very odd. Aren't machined brake tracks relative recent (I mean, 
>> starting from the 1990s, or perhaps 1980s? People managed to stop just fine 
>> before that. And I've been using a stash of Sun M14As and ME14As for almost 
>> 30 years and those don't have machined braking tracks; salmon pads stop 
>> just fine on my single pivot calipers.
>>
>> All the old road bike rim classics: MA2s, Open Pros, etc,? Hell, even 
>> chromed steel rims work fine with cheap rubber brake pads in dry conditions.
>>
>> I think he's trying to sell you a new pair of rims. 
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 4:19 PM Josh C  wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for your take on non-machined side wall wheels with rim brakes. 
>>> Poor stopping power? 
>>>
>>> I don't have experience with NMSW and rim brakes but just reached out to 
>>> a wheel builder about building a set of polished cliffhanger wheels and 
>>> they cautioned me regarding the NMSW. Figured I'd see what experience you 
>>> all have with 'em. 
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] NMSW

[Josh C]

Thanks!

He didn't exactly say not to go with the cliffhangers just said "hey those 
rims are NMSW, are you ok with that?" which gave me pause. So I thought 
about it and all of my rim brake wheels have had machined side walls. Maybe 
a BMX bike or two when I was young were NMSW but I can't remember. Figured 
I'd ask before ordering wheels and regretting it. 

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 6:44:21 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That is very odd. Aren't machined brake tracks relative recent (I mean, 
> starting from the 1990s, or perhaps 1980s? People managed to stop just fine 
> before that. And I've been using a stash of Sun M14As and ME14As for almost 
> 30 years and those don't have machined braking tracks; salmon pads stop 
> just fine on my single pivot calipers.
>
> All the old road bike rim classics: MA2s, Open Pros, etc,? Hell, even 
> chromed steel rims work fine with cheap rubber brake pads in dry conditions.
>
> I think he's trying to sell you a new pair of rims. 
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 4:19 PM Josh C  wrote:
>
>> Looking for your take on non-machined side wall wheels with rim brakes. 
>> Poor stopping power? 
>>
>> I don't have experience with NMSW and rim brakes but just reached out to 
>> a wheel builder about building a set of polished cliffhanger wheels and 
>> they cautioned me regarding the NMSW. Figured I'd see what experience you 
>> all have with 'em. 
>>
>> Thanks 
>>
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[RBW] Off topic but perhaps permissible ....??? Pipes

[Patrick Moore]

Riv content: Deacon Patrick was big on pipes, and a listmember used to have
a "Pipes and Leather" blog. And I bet Grant smokes a pipe.

If anyone knows something about good pipes and good unscented Virginia
tobacco, will that person contact me offlist at bertin753 [at] geemale dot
com?

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Re: [RBW] NMSW

[Patrick Moore]

That is very odd. Aren't machined brake tracks relative recent (I mean,
starting from the 1990s, or perhaps 1980s? People managed to stop just fine
before that. And I've been using a stash of Sun M14As and ME14As for almost
30 years and those don't have machined braking tracks; salmon pads stop
just fine on my single pivot calipers.

All the old road bike rim classics: MA2s, Open Pros, etc,? Hell, even
chromed steel rims work fine with cheap rubber brake pads in dry conditions.

I think he's trying to sell you a new pair of rims.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 4:19 PM Josh C  wrote:

> Looking for your take on non-machined side wall wheels with rim brakes.
> Poor stopping power?
>
> I don't have experience with NMSW and rim brakes but just reached out to a
> wheel builder about building a set of polished cliffhanger wheels and they
> cautioned me regarding the NMSW. Figured I'd see what experience you all
> have with 'em.
>
> Thanks
>
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[RBW] NMSW

[Josh C]

Looking for your take on non-machined side wall wheels with rim brakes. 
Poor stopping power? 

I don't have experience with NMSW and rim brakes but just reached out to a 
wheel builder about building a set of polished cliffhanger wheels and they 
cautioned me regarding the NMSW. Figured I'd see what experience you all 
have with 'em. 

Thanks 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

[RichS]

Nice find Eric. Thank you for posting. Good on you for your PBP volunteer 
efforts!:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:52:52 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> In its way just as laudable as ridingvolunteers contribute so much 
> IME. I hope for everyone's sake the temperatures aren't as fierce as they 
> have been everywhere this summer. 
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Friends and I are run I g the drop bag service for American riders this 
>> year. So I’m here but not riding. 
>>
>> –Eric N
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:50 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>>
>> As the French would know. Eric, are you riding PBP or just on a visit? 
>> Inquiring minds
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:37:57 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> The sticker to the left,  “Acier is Real,” is a mashup of French and 
>>> English for “Steel is Real.”
>>>
>>> –Eric N
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:22 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank Eric!
>>>
>>>
>>> La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe 
>>> something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most 
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard 
 Magenta in the 10th. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Mermaid Rivendell Platypus Complete

[jaredwilson]

I'm now aware of an issue with the associated email address, please reach 
me at *jared wilson 327 at gmail dot com* if you're interested

Thanks :)

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:01:06 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> We've entered crunch time on getting this bike gone...
>
> *$2,800!!*
>
> Prefer a CA sale, can have the bike in LA Saturday/Sunday if that works, 
> otherwise pickup in Modesto or delivery to SF Bay Area available.
>
> Let's chat :)
>
> jared
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:33:19 AM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> *$3,000*
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:56:57 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>
>>> Ergons came off for another project...
>>>
>>> Price drop, $3,150 for group members.
>>>
>>> Let's chat :)
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>
 Hi group,

 Changing directions and my Platypus is now available for purchase.

 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114407

 Original owner *Hi, Mack!* purchased as frameset

 Stock FSA headset

 Tosco 60cm 25.4 handlebars

 Ergon cork grips

 Jims stem 12cm

 Paul Love Levers

 Shimano XT thumb shifters

 Shimano Deore V-brakes

 White Industries/Sugino triple crankset, 175mm, 42/36/24

 Stock bottom bracket

 Shimano XT FD *NOS at install, low miles*

 Shimano Deore LX rapid rise RD *NOS at install, low miles*

 Velocity Cliffhanger 700c rims 32h

 Sapim Force Spokes with brass nipples

 Son Deluxe Widebody dynamo hub

 White Industries MI5 rear hub

 Jims 7 speed 11-36 cassette

 Salsa skewers

 Panaracer Gravelking SK 700x50 tires

 Stock seat post

 Selle SMP TRK saddle

 Rivendell Shiny rear rack


 Price: $3,300


 Prefer local sales in CA, can deliver within reason for gas $$. If 
 shipped, buyer pays all associated fees, Zelle payment only.


 Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)


 jared in central california


 Platypus Photos 
 


 [image: IMG_7209.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Mermaid Rivendell Platypus Complete

[jaredwilson]

I'm now aware of an issue with the associated email address, please reach 
me at jaredwilson...@gmail.com if interested.

Thanks :)

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:01:06 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> We've entered crunch time on getting this bike gone...
>
> *$2,800!!*
>
> Prefer a CA sale, can have the bike in LA Saturday/Sunday if that works, 
> otherwise pickup in Modesto or delivery to SF Bay Area available.
>
> Let's chat :)
>
> jared
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:33:19 AM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> *$3,000*
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:56:57 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>
>>> Ergons came off for another project...
>>>
>>> Price drop, $3,150 for group members.
>>>
>>> Let's chat :)
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>
 Hi group,

 Changing directions and my Platypus is now available for purchase.

 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114407

 Original owner *Hi, Mack!* purchased as frameset

 Stock FSA headset

 Tosco 60cm 25.4 handlebars

 Ergon cork grips

 Jims stem 12cm

 Paul Love Levers

 Shimano XT thumb shifters

 Shimano Deore V-brakes

 White Industries/Sugino triple crankset, 175mm, 42/36/24

 Stock bottom bracket

 Shimano XT FD *NOS at install, low miles*

 Shimano Deore LX rapid rise RD *NOS at install, low miles*

 Velocity Cliffhanger 700c rims 32h

 Sapim Force Spokes with brass nipples

 Son Deluxe Widebody dynamo hub

 White Industries MI5 rear hub

 Jims 7 speed 11-36 cassette

 Salsa skewers

 Panaracer Gravelking SK 700x50 tires

 Stock seat post

 Selle SMP TRK saddle

 Rivendell Shiny rear rack


 Price: $3,300


 Prefer local sales in CA, can deliver within reason for gas $$. If 
 shipped, buyer pays all associated fees, Zelle payment only.


 Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)


 jared in central california


 Platypus Photos 
 


 [image: IMG_7209.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rosco Mtn mixte x Crust cargo x kid bike

[John Johnson]

This is a grail of a bike for a lot of people! Not my size but what a 
smoking deal. This will make someone very happy.

Cheers, 

John

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:18:48 PM UTC+2 Drw wrote:

> Well, it is a sad day, but the time has come to let go of my 2018 Rosco 
> Bubbe Mountain "Mixte" as it was called. I bought this to carry my kid 
> around and he is now too heavy for the seat. For those unfamiliar, this was 
> built around a Joe Appaloosa fork and is more or less equivalent to a Clem 
> L, but not as long . It is a 55cm and 650b. This is a really fun bike. 
> Without a child on the back, it is a zippy little cargo bike. With a kid 
> and a fully loaded front, it's like a truck. I've carried so much with 
> this. Excellent condition. 
> PHOTOS HERE 
> 
>
> I can see 4 ways of selling it
>
> *1-Complete- $1700. *You'd get a fully built bike with the cargo fork 
> installed plus original fork/front wheel/tire etc. it would not be possible 
> to ship it this way, so you would need to pick up in Los Angeles.  Pricing 
> this option lower because it would be significantly easier on me. If you 
> want a deal on the Thule Yepp child seat/rack, we can discuss that as well. 
>
> *2-Original- $1600. *You'd get a fully built rosco (minus a stem) with 
> original fork and 650b wheels and all components listed below.  I could 
> ship at buyer's cost. 
>
> *3- Cargo fork/wheel/disc brake/basket-$400*
>
> *4-Full Part out. *I really don't want to have to do this, but if after a 
> couple of weeks, I have enough people who want the various bits, I could 
> make it happen. 
>
> *Components*
> Nitto handlebars (cant remember the model)
> Microshift 10 speed thumb shifter 
> Shimano Brake levers
> Dimension stem
>
> Avid disc brake
> Deore V brakes
>
> IRD Mjolnir 1x crank with Surly 36t ring
> XT 10 speed rear derailler
> Sunrace giant cassette
>
> 650b Wheels from Riv- Deore hubs, Alex rims, built by Velocity
> WTB horizon tires
> 20" wheel from Bike Friday- Shimano hub
> Big apple tire and a new Tioga powerblock to throw in
>
> Giant Wald basket.
>
> (Saddle, pedals, grips, bottle cages, bell, lights not included)
>
> *Thanks,*
> *Drew in Los Angeles*
>
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[RBW] FS: Rosco Mtn mixte x Crust cargo x kid bike

[Drw]

Well, it is a sad day, but the time has come to let go of my 2018 Rosco 
Bubbe Mountain "Mixte" as it was called. I bought this to carry my kid 
around and he is now too heavy for the seat. For those unfamiliar, this was 
built around a Joe Appaloosa fork and is more or less equivalent to a Clem 
L, but not as long . It is a 55cm and 650b. This is a really fun bike. 
Without a child on the back, it is a zippy little cargo bike. With a kid 
and a fully loaded front, it's like a truck. I've carried so much with 
this. Excellent condition. 
PHOTOS HERE 


I can see 4 ways of selling it

*1-Complete- $1700. *You'd get a fully built bike with the cargo fork 
installed plus original fork/front wheel/tire etc. it would not be possible 
to ship it this way, so you would need to pick up in Los Angeles.  Pricing 
this option lower because it would be significantly easier on me. If you 
want a deal on the Thule Yepp child seat/rack, we can discuss that as well. 

*2-Original- $1600. *You'd get a fully built rosco (minus a stem) with 
original fork and 650b wheels and all components listed below.  I could 
ship at buyer's cost. 

*3- Cargo fork/wheel/disc brake/basket-$400*

*4-Full Part out. *I really don't want to have to do this, but if after a 
couple of weeks, I have enough people who want the various bits, I could 
make it happen. 

*Components*
Nitto handlebars (cant remember the model)
Microshift 10 speed thumb shifter 
Shimano Brake levers
Dimension stem

Avid disc brake
Deore V brakes

IRD Mjolnir 1x crank with Surly 36t ring
XT 10 speed rear derailler
Sunrace giant cassette

650b Wheels from Riv- Deore hubs, Alex rims, built by Velocity
WTB horizon tires
20" wheel from Bike Friday- Shimano hub
Big apple tire and a new Tioga powerblock to throw in

Giant Wald basket.

(Saddle, pedals, grips, bottle cages, bell, lights not included)

*Thanks,*
*Drew in Los Angeles*

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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

updated list with price decreases: 

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:52:03 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> updated list with price decreases: 
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>
> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>  updated list with price decreases: 
>>
>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
>> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
>> $200 pending
>>
>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>>
>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>>
>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>>
>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>>
>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>>
>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>>
>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>>
>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>>
>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>
>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>>
>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>
>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>
>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>>
>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an updated list: 
>>>
>>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - 
>>> QR5x100/130mm - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less 
>>> than 100 miles $200
>>>
>>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>>>
>>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>>>
>>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>>>
>>> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>>
>>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>>
>>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>>
>>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>>>
>>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nexave Rapid Rise

[Eric Marth]

Emailed you some confidential intel. 
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> BIG not bog. Ugh
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:40:29 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Those do look great. I have a XTR M-953 that is going to go on my 
>> incoming Roadini. I really want one of these because I love the bog pulley.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:30:12 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keep this to yourself as I don’t want any more competition but the XTR 
>>> m960 rapid rise derailleur is beautiful if you can find one in good shape. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 7:10 PM Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know that Rivendell sold some of these awhile ago but now they only 
 go on full builds from them. I am getting a frame but that doesn't count. 
 I 
 don't even want it for that frame, I want it for another bike. Anyway it 
 stands for Next Avenue and I am looking for one. I am sure one of you has 
 one that would maybe like to have money instead. Maybe? 

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[RBW] wtb 100-110mm nitto not-so-high quill stem

[Brent Knepper]

Hey pals, I'm looking for a stem for my build with a tall headtube and tall 
26.0 bars, rendering the couple of talluxes I got as too tall :/

Anyone have anything on hand? I'm looking in the direction of a dynamic or 
pearl with a 26.0 clamp, sub 200mm quill length. Maybe I got the model 
names mixed up, but yeah kinda a reguar degular road bike quill stem. Happy 
to consider other brands/older model stuff as well

Thanks!
Brent in Chicago

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

[Ryan]

In its way just as laudable as ridingvolunteers contribute so much IME. 
I hope for everyone's sake the temperatures aren't as fierce as they have 
been everywhere this summer. 

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Friends and I are run I g the drop bag service for American riders this 
> year. So I’m here but not riding. 
>
> –Eric N
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:50 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> As the French would know. Eric, are you riding PBP or just on a visit? 
> Inquiring minds
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:37:57 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> The sticker to the left,  “Acier is Real,” is a mashup of French and 
>> English for “Steel is Real.”
>>
>> –Eric N
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:22 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>>
>> Thank Eric!
>>
>>
>> La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe 
>> something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most 
>> appropriate.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard 
>>> Magenta in the 10th. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Adam]

No flats!

I had two on one ride earlier in the week--that was the prompt for this 
thread. To be fair, my rear tire has lots of holes and cuts and has been 
through plenty, so I"m not shocked.

FWIW, my favorite mud/dirt setup has been Hurricane Ridge front, Snoqualmie 
Pass rear--the only issue for me is that I like having fenders, and don't 
feel great about 52mm fenders over the Hurricane Ridge offroad.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:52:44 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> I've was reading this thread thinking, "I've never had a flat on my 
> Snoqualmie 
> Passes."
>
> Jinxed myself and caught one this morning:
>
> [image: IMG_1328.jpg]
>
> I have been super happy with them, but have also been wanting to try some 
> Bruce 
> Gordon Rock n' Roads. 
> Those may be more knobby than you are slightly inclined, and perhaps too 
> heavy, but they've been on my mind so I mention them here.
>
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:06:00 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 9:43 AM Josh (BertoBerg)  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's exactly where I got my Terra Speeds! $98/shipped. Obviously, RH 
>>> is a MUCH smaller company than Continental so I understand why their prices 
>>> are higher and why you can't find their products deeply discounted.
>>>
>>> That's not what's going on. Panaracer's not a small company either and 
>> they're the manufacturer. What's happening is that you're paying for both 
>> Panaracer and Rene Herse's profits. That, and Rene Herse has tighter 
>> control over discounting happening to their dealer network than Continental 
>> does.
>>  
>>
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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Leah Peterson]

Hi David, Thank you for asking about Dad. Dad was a darling, the kind of man you love to love. He died too young, only 62.Dad taught me many things, but this is a lesson he never meant to teach…Dad took meticulous care of his things. He collected historical books and had each one jacketed at our local library. He never used soap in the whirlpool, believing it would wreck it. He put a tablecloth over their Amish-made dining room table, fearing that the wood would be scratched. He was gentle and careful and he tried to keep his things looking new. He always said when he retired he would buy two things: a new pickup and a new boat. He got a ding in the prop of that new boat and agonized over it. He planned to replace the propeller so it would look new again. He hesitated to trailer the boat to my brother’s house across the state, fearing some sort of cosmetic damage would befall it. (Mom forced his hand because she wanted to take the grandkids boating.) He got his new truck but mostly drove his old one, wanting to “keep the miles off” the new one. The beautiful, expensive new truck sat, parked in the driveway. He died suddenly, soon after retiring. The truck was the first thing we sold. Dad taught me a lot of things, but his final, unintended lesson taught me not to sit on my treasures, but to use them and enjoy them. Thanks again,LeahSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2023, at 12:37 PM, David Jones  wrote:Well, Leah, you sure opened up a thread that everyone seems to want to weigh in on, and a thread that seems to be enjoying a longevity that few can match.One thought I had that hasn't been covered by anyone, yet, is:  "What would your father's wishes be for this bike?  Which of the different actions you are considering would honor his memory to the fullest degree possible?" My original, brief, response was to keep it home during college to protect it from being stolen.  My thinking was that "it's a long life" and your son will have a better chance of staying connected to his grandfather by having decades to enjoy riding the bike.  But if your father was a person who was a "pin your ears back" risk taker who approached life as if there were no guarantees of tomorrow or appreciated a certain detachment to "things," then by all means "seize the day" and send the bike with your son to college, fully recognizing the inherent risks involved and, hopefully, having made peace with the possibility of him graduating from college without the bike in his possession.David JonesOn Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:52 PM Davey Two Shoes  wrote:Send Grandpa's Clem! On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:29:17 PM UTC-4 Will wrote:Oh yes it might help a bit if the bike didn't look so new. With a few duct tape patches that can be easily solved without hurting the frame. On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-5 Will wrote:When I was in college I had a Raleigh Competition and a Raleigh RRA (French metric Raleigh bike). It was a small campus in Williamsburg, VA. I had no problems with either bike. Yes, I locked them. Yes, I didn't leave them out at night and so on, but my point is... with a good U lock and maybe some wheel theft clamps, I think you'll be fine. No one is looking for a classic steel bike  these days. Now they want carbon and disc brakes. And there are plenty of those bikes to steal. I'd give him the Clem. WillOn Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:05:31 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:I've been thinking about this situation a lot. (And thinking back about 20 years to my time in college.) I was from a small town, and went to a large public school. I learned a lot, and a lot of learning is through mistakes. I did lots of dumb stuff, and minus the time I went flying over the handlebars and got an ambulance ride, I was lucky to escape without life-altering implications. My grandpa died when I was in college, and I still treasure a few small items I have from him. Ultimately, things are things, but some things mean more than others. It will be up to your family to decide the best route. I'm not sure it's been mentioned before, but any thought to taking an entirely different bike first semester/first year with the plan to revisit taking the Clem second semester/sophomore year? Good luck with your decision.Matt in STLOn Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:Great story Mackenzy! I think many of us started on BMX bikes. I was an 80s kid and the group of guys in my neighborhood all had BMX bikes. In college I rode a Trek mountain bike (low end) but also had a car so the bike was primarily for exercise. I tried single speed a few years ago and really enjoy the simplicity of it even with the limitations.DougOn Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:Admittedly, I had almost the exact opposite issue as a college student. I grew up without cyclists in my family, and think it's so rad that there are parents like Leah to give a good starting point of living a happily 

Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[藍俊彪]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 9:43 AM Josh (BertoBerg) 
wrote:

> That's exactly where I got my Terra Speeds! $98/shipped. Obviously, RH is
> a MUCH smaller company than Continental so I understand why their prices
> are higher and why you can't find their products deeply discounted.
>
> That's not what's going on. Panaracer's not a small company either and
they're the manufacturer. What's happening is that you're paying for both
Panaracer and Rene Herse's profits. That, and Rene Herse has tighter
control over discounting happening to their dealer network than Continental
does.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Haha...the unicorn tears is what really seals them up!

I've typically used the Panaracer sealant but I'm going to Silca's sealant 
next time. I've had a lot of luck with it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Eliot Balogh]

The vegan hypoallergenic farm raised stuff with crushed organic walnut
shells and unicorn tears…

Panaracer

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 9:46 AM Josh (BertoBerg) 
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> Eliot-
>
> Out of curiosity, what sealant are you using?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Eliot-

Out of curiosity, what sealant are you using?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Eliot Balogh]

They set up just fine but the rear will lose 10 psi over a few hours.

Going to retape and see what happens.


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> Piaw-
>
> That's exactly where I got my Terra Speeds! $98/shipped. Obviously, RH is
> a MUCH smaller company than Continental so I understand why their prices
> are higher and why you can't find their products deeply discounted.
>
> Ted Wood-
>
> I've only punctured an RH while road riding, commuting, etc. I've gone
> over plenty of super-chunk gravel at high speeds without an issue though.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Piaw-

That's exactly where I got my Terra Speeds! $98/shipped. Obviously, RH is a 
MUCH smaller company than Continental so I understand why their prices are 
higher and why you can't find their products deeply discounted.

Ted Wood-

I've only punctured an RH while road riding, commuting, etc. I've gone over 
plenty of super-chunk gravel at high speeds without an issue though.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Bernard Duhon]

Bernard F. Duhon














Ditto on only 1500 miles on the Renée hearse Extralights

However I have the endurance plus and they seem to be holding up well though 
only a few hundred miles on them




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Subject: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

Ted (and All)-

I don't think I've ever gotten more than 1500 miles out of a set of 
Extralights. By the that time the rear tire is usually slick and both tires 
have several tread slashes in them.

I've had a lot of luck with the Barlow Passes (running tubeless) in standard 
casing however.

-Josh
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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[David Jones]

Well, Leah, you sure opened up a thread that everyone seems to want to
weigh in on, and a thread that seems to be enjoying a longevity that few
can match.

One thought I had that hasn't been covered by anyone, yet, is:  "What would
your father's wishes be for this bike?  Which of the different actions you
are considering would honor his memory to the fullest degree possible?"

My original, brief, response was to keep it home during college to protect
it from being stolen.  My thinking was that "it's a long life" and your son
will have a better chance of staying connected to his grandfather by having
decades to enjoy riding the bike.  But if your father was a person who was
a "pin your ears back" risk taker who approached life as if there were no
guarantees of tomorrow or appreciated a certain detachment to "things,"
then by all means "seize the day" and send the bike with your son to
college, fully recognizing the inherent risks involved and, hopefully,
having made peace with the possibility of him graduating from college
without the bike in his possession.

David Jones

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:52 PM Davey Two Shoes 
wrote:

> Send Grandpa's Clem!
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:29:17 PM UTC-4 Will wrote:
>
>> Oh yes it might help a bit if the bike didn't look so new. With a few
>> duct tape patches that can be easily solved without hurting the frame.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-5 Will wrote:
>>
>>> When I was in college I had a Raleigh Competition and a Raleigh RRA
>>> (French metric Raleigh bike). It was a small campus in Williamsburg, VA. I
>>> had no problems with either bike. Yes, I locked them. Yes, I didn't leave
>>> them out at night and so on, but my point is... with a good U lock and
>>> maybe some wheel theft clamps, I think you'll be fine. No one is looking
>>> for a classic steel bike  these days. Now they want carbon and disc brakes.
>>> And there are plenty of those bikes to steal. I'd give him the Clem.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:05:31 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been thinking about this situation a lot. (And thinking back about
 20 years to my time in college.) I was from a small town, and went to a
 large public school. I learned a lot, and a lot of learning is through
 mistakes. I did lots of dumb stuff, and minus the time I went flying over
 the handlebars and got an ambulance ride, I was lucky to escape without
 life-altering implications. My grandpa died when I was in college, and I
 still treasure a few small items I have from him. Ultimately, things are
 things, but some things mean more than others. It will be up to your family
 to decide the best route. I'm not sure it's been mentioned before, but any
 thought to taking an entirely different bike first semester/first year with
 the plan to revisit taking the Clem second semester/sophomore year?

 Good luck with your decision.
 Matt in STL

 On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Great story Mackenzy! I think many of us started on BMX bikes. I was
> an 80s kid and the group of guys in my neighborhood all had BMX bikes. In
> college I rode a Trek mountain bike (low end) but also had a car so the
> bike was primarily for exercise. I tried single speed a few years ago and
> really enjoy the simplicity of it even with the limitations.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright
> wrote:
>
>> Admittedly, I had almost the exact opposite issue as a college
>> student. I grew up without cyclists in my family, and think it's so rad
>> that there are parents like Leah to give a good starting point of living 
>> a
>> happily car free college life.
>>
>> I was messy messy messy in my hyperfocus niche interests (bikes). As
>> an adolescent I got into bmx bikes. I had a very high end BMX I kept in 
>> my
>> dorm room under my bunk for the first two years. I worked at a skatepark
>> and rode with many professional friends. Eventually, a visiting friend
>> "from the city" brought his IRO fixed gear. I was absolutely smitten. He
>> taught me about fixed gear conversions - so I went to one on one bike
>> studios in Minneapolis and Gene helped me pick out a beat Schwinn Letour 
>> in
>> my size and parts I needed to convert it to fixed.
>>
>> Within the next few months - I befriended a local bike shop worker
>> who talked me into buying a 54cm Surly steam roller frame (I am 6' 2" 
>> mind
>> you) for nearly wholesale as it'd been sitting for ever a year. My IRO
>> friend came back and took me down the biggest hill in town (sanfrancisco
>> style) on that brakeless steamroller. Literally probably the stupidest 
>> day
>> of my life. We continued on a 40+K ride in the country side to a 
>> waterfall

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Romulus

[Barbara A Peterson]

Thanks for you interest
I just sold the bike today

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 5:53 AM Igor  wrote:

> Amazing deal! If this was my size and there was someone willing I'd be
> asking for a proxy...
> Igor
> -Michigan
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:15:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi bapeterson — I see the bike is available for local pickup only. You
>> didn't mention where you're located but guessing from your email somewhere
>> near Cal Berkeley?
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-4 bapet...@berkeley.edu
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Original owner. 59cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best
>>> offer
>>>
>>> Standard Riv Build:
>>> 105 hubs
>>> araya rims
>>> 105 headset
>>> 105 Front der
>>> deore rear der
>>> shimano std reach side pull brakes (not sure which model)
>>> sugino xd2 triple
>>> 11-32 cassette
>>> nitto s65 seatpost
>>> nitto moustache bar
>>> nitto technomic 8cm stem
>>> silver bar end shifters
>>> tiagra brake levers
>>>
>>> Local pickup only. No shipping
>>> Cash or Venmo
>>>
>>> Thanks for considering
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

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Friends and I are run I g the drop bag service for American riders this year. So I’m here but not riding. –Eric NOn Aug 18, 2023, at 5:50 PM, Ryan  wrote:As the French would know. Eric, are you riding PBP or just on a visit? Inquiring mindsOn Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:37:57 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:The sticker to the left,  “Acier is Real,” is a mashup of French and English for “Steel is Real.”–Eric NOn Aug 18, 2023, at 5:22 PM, JohnS  wrote:Thank Eric!La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most appropriate.JohnSOn Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard Magenta in the 10th.





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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

[Ryan]

As the French would know. Eric, are you riding PBP or just on a visit? 
Inquiring minds

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:37:57 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> The sticker to the left,  “Acier is Real,” is a mashup of French and 
> English for “Steel is Real.”
>
> –Eric N
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2023, at 5:22 PM, JohnS  wrote:
>
> Thank Eric!
>
>
> La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe 
> something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most 
> appropriate.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard 
>> Magenta in the 10th. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

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The sticker to the left,  “Acier is Real,” is a mashup of French and English for “Steel is Real.”–Eric NOn Aug 18, 2023, at 5:22 PM, JohnS  wrote:Thank Eric!La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most appropriate.JohnSOn Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard Magenta in the 10th.





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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Ted W]

My experience with RH tires (tubeless) is that their dual-purpose tires are
more durable than their all-road tires. I have always used the endurance
casing versions and found that I constantly get punctures on their
all-roads (most recently with the Naches Pass). On the other hand, their
dual-purpose knobbies (such as Oracle Ridge and Fleecer Ridge) last much
longer.

I’m sure riding surface and environment makes a large difference. My riding
tends to be mostly urban, mixed surface. I probably encounter more glass
and other sharp objects than some people.

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> Ted (and All)-
>
> I don't think I've ever gotten more than 1500 miles out of a set of
> Extralights. By the that time the rear tire is usually slick and both tires
> have several tread slashes in them.
>
> I've had a lot of luck with the Barlow Passes (running tubeless) in
> standard casing however.
>
> -Josh
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[藍俊彪]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 7:40 AM Ted Durant  wrote:

>
> I have had nothing but VERY positive experiences with Rene Herse tires and
> I don't think their prices are out of line with other options.
>

 I think that's only true if you pay retail for your tires. I don't. It's
very common to find Continental tires well below MSRP (
https://bikecloset.com/product/continental-terra-speed-700-x-40-cream-sidewall-fold-protection-tr-black-chili/
sells the Terraspeed for $40). Try finding Rene Herse tires for anywhere
close to that price. You can't. I can buy 4 Terraspeed tires for the price
of a pair of Rene Herse tires. The difference is just as extreme if you
compare Continental GP5000 700x32 against the Rene Herse equivalents.

I'm a cheapskate though, and don't hesitate to run $10 SRAM 11s chains when
I can find them, and back before tires were cheap in the US I'd import them
from England or other places in Europe where there's significant price
competition for bike parts. At one point when Avocet was going out of
business I bought a 3 year supply of their tires at $10/pop.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell In Paris

[JohnS]

Thank Eric!

La chouette = "the owl" or "very useful word you can use to describe 
something that you like or you think is nice or cool." Seems most 
appropriate.

JohnS

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 4:19:36 AM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Guess what I found in Paris! A local Rivendell dealer! 20 Boulevard 
> Magenta in the 10th.
>
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[RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Ted (and All)-

I don't think I've ever gotten more than 1500 miles out of a set of 
Extralights. By the that time the rear tire is usually slick and both tires 
have several tread slashes in them. 

I've had a lot of luck with the Barlow Passes (running tubeless) in 
standard casing however.

-Josh

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[RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Ted Durant]

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:40:45 AM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

I have had nothing but VERY positive experiences with Rene Herse tires


I should add that most of my experience is with tubes, but I have done 
tubeless with some RH EL and std casing tires, and I've gone back to using 
tubes. I found using sealant to be finicky and messy and more trouble than 
it's worth. Maybe that's 'cuz they were RH tires, but I found zero benefit 
from tubeless, living in a thorn-free part of the world.
 
Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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[RBW] Re: Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Ted Durant]

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 8:42:48 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?


I have had nothing but VERY positive experiences with Rene Herse tires and 
I don't think their prices are out of line with other options. I've been 
getting thousands of kilometers out of their tires with EL casings and no 
more punctures than expected, with the caveat that if you try to push the 
life too far the tread gets very thin and the punctures will start to come 
more often. My two Sams are 650B, one of them on Gravel King slicks and the 
other on Ultradynmico Cava JFF. I've ridden the Gravel Kings on mixed 
road/gravel/hiking trail, including some very hilly stuff, and I think 
they're pretty much the equivalent of standard or endurance casing RH. I've 
ridden the Cavas on dirt and pavement with some reasonably steep stuff and 
I don't like them nearly as much. Only a few hundred kms on each, so far, 
so can't say anything about the durability.  None of them have any traction 
in mud. If that's an important issue, I'm a big fan of the tread on RH 
knobby tires, which I've been using in the winter on my Breadwinner G-Road. 
They're certainly not as silent as Jan would have you believe, but they're 
not slow.

I don't think there is any component that has a bigger impact on how a bike 
feels than tires.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Hello All-

I am just coming off of 1200 miles with the Snoqualmie Pass Extralight 
tires. 

Goods:
Ride was great, 
Speed was great
Weight was great
Handled all of the gravel I could throw at it

Bads:
Had to put extra sealant in them several times just to get them to hold 
air. I used the RH recommended Panaracer sealant
If you had to deflate the tire for any reason they wouldn't seal again 
until you added more sealant.
Super susceptible to glass punctures.
After getting three or four punctures in the last few hundred miles I 
called it quits.
Having to clean sealant off my legs, back, and bike.
Price (Obviously)
_

I switched over to Continental Terra Speed 40mm tires. They are 
significantly heavier and way less plush but they hold air. Once you get 
them up to speed they roll pretty fast though.

Josh
Bainbridge Island, WA

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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Adam]

Thanks, I'll see how the Terra Speeds compare. I agree about price, it's 
just too much for something expendable.

I'm not looking for mud tires at all, just thought I'd throw my overall 
take on the Herse tires. I'm skeptical that the Terra Speed.onobs do much 
of anything, but we'll see.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:16:16 AM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been running the Terraspeed 40mm (measuring 38mm on my A23 rims). I 
> have no stomach for the prices Rene Herse charges for their tires, but I 
> don't think the Terra Speed are going to satisfy you if you're riding in 
> mud. My experience with the Terraspeed is that in mud, you're going to spin 
> the tires for about half a pedal stroke before the tire sinks enough into 
> the mud to bite. It's a bit disconcerting, but here in California mud 
> doesn't happen often and I want the lightest possible tire because every 
> ride here starts with a 2000' climb.
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>>  My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).
>>
>> Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a 
>> little too fragile for what they enable me to ride.
>>
>> I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
>> very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
>> think.
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Eliot,
>>>
>>> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>>>
>>> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
>>> Snoqualmies?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
 should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
 slightly worse road feel.

 I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how 
 they translate to 700c.

 I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.

 Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and 
 Schwalbe G-One RS. 

 On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move 
> them on.
>
> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the 
> Hillborne?
>
> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the 
> Terra 
> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>
> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
> OK with the file tread.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Piaw Na]

I've been running the Terraspeed 40mm (measuring 38mm on my A23 rims). I 
have no stomach for the prices Rene Herse charges for their tires, but I 
don't think the Terra Speed are going to satisfy you if you're riding in 
mud. My experience with the Terraspeed is that in mud, you're going to spin 
the tires for about half a pedal stroke before the tire sinks enough into 
the mud to bite. It's a bit disconcerting, but here in California mud 
doesn't happen often and I want the lightest possible tire because every 
ride here starts with a 2000' climb.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

>  My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).
>
> Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a 
> little too fragile for what they enable me to ride.
>
> I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
> very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
> think.
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hello Eliot,
>>
>> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>>
>> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
>> Snoqualmies?
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
>>> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
>>> slightly worse road feel.
>>>
>>> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how 
>>> they translate to 700c.
>>>
>>> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>>>
>>> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and 
>>> Schwalbe G-One RS. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move 
 them on.

 Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the 
 Hillborne?

 I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
 find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
 kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the 
 Terra 
 Speeds that are on sale a few places.

 Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
 OK with the file tread.

 Thanks,

 Adam


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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[D D]

Matthew, I love these posts!  How do you do it?  I’ve tried the “search all Craigslist” sites that come up with a search. But they don’t show me half of what you find. Well done. Keep it up. Thanks for sharing the wealth. Dustin in VA. On Aug 15, 2023, at 6:54 PM, Matthew Williams  wrote:A. HOMER HILSEN f/f/hs
65cm
1000
Fayetteville, NC
https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/asheville-rivendell-homer-hilsen-65cm/7653376311.html

61cm
2100
Carlsbad, CA
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/d/carlsbad-fs-61-cm-toyo-built-rivendell/7655093235.html

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APPALOOSA
54cm
3400
Portland, OR
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/central-point-rivendell-appaloosa-54cm/7639357342.html

47cm
3200
Silverdale, WA
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/silverdale-2015-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7654436328.html

46cm f/f/hs
1200
Silverdale, WA
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/silverdale-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7654436278.html

62cm
2200
Indianapolis, IN
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7654284416.html

51cm
1500
Decatur, IL
https://decatur.craigslist.org/bik/d/decatur-rivendell-appaloosa-51cm/7653107413.html

46cm
2600
Tucson, AZ
https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/tucson-rivendell-joe-appaloosa-46cm/7640179378.html

===

BETTY FOY
60cm
1800
Queens, NY
https://newyork.craigslist.org/que/bik/d/ridgewood-rivendell-betty-foy-large-60cm/7650971221.html

===

CHEVIOT
60cm
2000
Portland, OR
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-cheviot-60cm/7649209115.html

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CLEM SMITH JR. 
45cm H
1300
Minneapolis, MN
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/d/minneapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-45cm/7638477932.html

54cm L
2750
Santa Rosa, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/santa-rosa-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7652189316.html

===

HERON
59cm
1700
Los Angeles, CA
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-1993-heron-rivendell/7648263190.html

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HUBBUHUBBUH
Small
3700
Portland, OR
https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/sequim-rivendell-hubbuhubbuh-tandem/7642793863.html

Medium
2500
Arlington, VA
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/arlington-rivendell-bicycles-hhh-tandem/7647157336.html

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PROTOVELO
57cm
1300
Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/bik/d/lewisville-rivendell-protovelo-57cm/7648544548.html

===

RAMBOUILLET
58cm
1650
St. Paul, MN
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/d/saint-paul-58cm-rivendell-rambouillet/7644774367.html

56cm
1900
Portland, OR
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/central-point-rivendell-rambouillet-1st/7639406959.html

===

ROADEO
61cm
1300
San Francisco, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-roadeo-road/7655039192.html

===

ROADINI
60cm
1300
Littleton, CO
https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/littleton-rivendell-roadini-60cm/7654431189.html

50cm
1600
Ellensburg, WA
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7654381016.html

===

PLATYPUS
60cm
3300
Modesto, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/modesto-60cm-rivendell-platypus/7654495360.html

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SALUKI
62cm
2800
Brick, NJ
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/brick-rivendell-saluki-62cm-650b-rene/7647841760.html

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SAM HILLBORNE
55cm
2000
St. Germain, WI
https://madison.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-germain-sam-hillbourne/7653334340.html

60cm
2400
Astoria, NY
https://newyork.craigslist.org/que/bik/d/astoria-rivendell-sam-hillborne-green/7654848376.html

62cm
2200
Grand Rapids, MI
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bik/d/grand-rapids-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7629706219.html

51cm
2000
Charlottesville, VA
https://charlottesville.craigslist.org/bik/d/charlottesville-gently-used-rivendell/7641259969.html

60cm
1200
Missoula, MT
https://missoula.craigslist.org/bik/d/missoula-rivendell-sam-hillborne-60cm/7652643051.html

===

SAN MARCOS CARGO
59cm
Vancouver, BC
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/bik/d/vancouver-59cm-soma-rivendell-san/7654123617.html





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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Ibex merino cycling shorts (Made in USA)

[Eric Marth]

Sold, thanks!

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:06:22 PM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ibex made great products when they were in VT before they sold their name. 
> These are the good ones. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 7:56:42 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Now $40 plus shipping to you :o) 
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:48:43 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> *Correction: *These are size *large* note size medium as stated above. 
>>> Thanks!
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 Hi all — Looking for $50 plus shipping to you, price is net to me :o) 

 [image: IMG_7043.JPG]

 Ibex cycling shorts. Black, 92% merino, 6% poly, 2% lycra. Made in USA. 
 Poly pad. These are in great overall shape, some light abrasions on the 
 rear panels below the pad as shown.  

 There are labeled a size medium but check these measurements to ensure 
 best fit. Lots of stretch in them but not stretched out or over-stretched. 

- Waist laid flat, not stretched: 14" 
- Inseam: 9" 
- Rise: 18"

 [image: IMG_7044.JPG]

 [image: IMG_7046.jpg]

 [image: IMG_7039.jpg]

 [image: IMG_7041.jpg]

 [image: IMG_7040.jpg]

 [image: IMG_7042.JPG]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Adam]

 My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).

Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a little 
too fragile for what they enable me to ride.

I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
think.
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Hello Eliot,
>
> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>
> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
> Snoqualmies?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
>> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
>> slightly worse road feel.
>>
>> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how they 
>> translate to 700c.
>>
>> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>>
>> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and Schwalbe 
>> G-One RS. 
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them 
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?
>>>
>>> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
>>> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
>>> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra 
>>> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>>>
>>> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
>>> OK with the file tread.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
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