Re: [RBW] Russ Roca/Path Less Pedaled reflects on his Sam Hillborne

[exliontamer]

Nice video. I like Russ's thing. It took me a while to come around to him. 
For a while I consciously avoided it because of click bait titles (I'm 
paraphrasing) like "Crust Vs Rivendell:Ultimate Face-off" & "Is the Sam 
Hillborne still relevant in 2013". 
I'm sure a good bit of people on this page have gear acquisition syndrome 
relating to bikes & bike parts. I've certainly seen a lot come & go but the 
two I've never sold are my Toyo Atlantis & my '81 Trek 510. 
On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 4:50:30 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> This resonates with me because my Hillborne is the only bike I've been 
> absolutely certain I would never sell. Four years and 10,000km in, and this 
> feeling has never wavered. Every other bike I've at least had thoughts of 
> selling.. or have sold!
>
> On Friday, 15 September 2023 at 08:44:27 UTC-7 Tim Tetrault wrote:
>
>> Indeed, thanks for sharing this. I sent it to my wife who was 
>> instrumental in crowd funding a side-pull canti Sam frame for my birthday 
>> back in 2012.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:25:21 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I, too, delight in watching Russ Roca's YouTube channel "Path Less 
>>> Pedaled". It is very entertaining and informative. 
>>>
>>> It was really cool to hear his reasoning why is keeping his Rivendell 
>>> Sam Hillbourne bicycle, of which is very similar to my thinking to owning 
>>> and wanting to keep my Clem.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:06:23 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I love Russ’ channel. He provides a nice balance to bicycle YouTube.

 I’m perfectly happy with my Appaloosa but earlier this year i was torn 
 between it and waiting for the Hillborne release. I’m on the larger side 
 for a cyclist and their recommendation for the rider weight gave me pause. 
 I’d have loved to have a slightly shorter wheelbase for commuting 
 (elevators are a bit tight).

 On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 8:30 AM Julian Westerhout  
 wrote:

> Russ Roca has a new video up about his Sam Hillborne --  explaining 
> why it is the one bike he cannot see ever selling. 
>
> IMHO he does a really good job of explaining the appeal of the 
> Rivendell line. I think it is worth watching. 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6YG_Mk3zJ4
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
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Re: [RBW] Russ Roca/Path Less Pedaled reflects on his Sam Hillborne

[Ted W]

Unfortunately, the clickbait isn’t usually by choice for most Youtubers. In
order to run a successful YouTube channel, you have to play the
recommendation engine and that means clickbait titles, saying “like and
subscribe” in your videos and having silly thumbnails for your video,
usually of the host looking shocked or confused.

So I try not to blame Russ for that, he’s just trying to do what he has to
to run a successful business/channel in a world of AI and algorithms.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:46 AM exliontamer  wrote:

> Nice video. I like Russ's thing. It took me a while to come around to him.
> For a while I consciously avoided it because of click bait titles (I'm
> paraphrasing) like "Crust Vs Rivendell:Ultimate Face-off" & "Is the Sam
> Hillborne still relevant in 2013".
> I'm sure a good bit of people on this page have gear acquisition syndrome
> relating to bikes & bike parts. I've certainly seen a lot come & go but the
> two I've never sold are my Toyo Atlantis & my '81 Trek 510.
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 4:50:30 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> This resonates with me because my Hillborne is the only bike I've been
>> absolutely certain I would never sell. Four years and 10,000km in, and this
>> feeling has never wavered. Every other bike I've at least had thoughts of
>> selling.. or have sold!
>>
>> On Friday, 15 September 2023 at 08:44:27 UTC-7 Tim Tetrault wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed, thanks for sharing this. I sent it to my wife who was
>>> instrumental in crowd funding a side-pull canti Sam frame for my birthday
>>> back in 2012.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:25:21 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I, too, delight in watching Russ Roca's YouTube channel "Path Less
 Pedaled". It is very entertaining and informative.

 It was really cool to hear his reasoning why is keeping his Rivendell
 Sam Hillbourne bicycle, of which is very similar to my thinking to owning
 and wanting to keep my Clem.

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA.
 On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:06:23 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I love Russ’ channel. He provides a nice balance to bicycle YouTube.
>
> I’m perfectly happy with my Appaloosa but earlier this year i was torn
> between it and waiting for the Hillborne release. I’m on the larger side
> for a cyclist and their recommendation for the rider weight gave me pause.
> I’d have loved to have a slightly shorter wheelbase for commuting
> (elevators are a bit tight).
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 8:30 AM Julian Westerhout 
> wrote:
>
>> Russ Roca has a new video up about his Sam Hillborne --  explaining
>> why it is the one bike he cannot see ever selling.
>>
>> IMHO he does a really good job of explaining the appeal of the
>> Rivendell line. I think it is worth watching.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6YG_Mk3zJ4
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Leah Peterson]

Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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[RBW] Re: Homers Going Live in a Few Minutes

[Dorothy C]

I have been wondering all week what G.A.S. meant, and ran across it on the 
Path Less Pedalled Sam thread - gear acquisition syndrome. I first came 
across the idea in Mr Money Mustache’s blog where he calls it the Purchase 
Justification Machine. I have 5 Rivendells now, and I am trying to quell 
the urge to replace sizes on two of them - my 2015 46cm Appaloosa and 2019 
45cm Clem, both 26” whees, where technically the next size up would be a 
better fit and would open up 27.5 mountain bike tire sizes, but I am happy 
with the setups I have on them now. My other three are 47cm 2020 Roadini 
with Noodles, 50cm Roadini with Albastache and a 2019 55cm Cheviot with 
Albatross bars. 
I didn’t notice until recently that the 2023 45cm Clem L is now a 27.5/650b 
wheel size, so there’s that. On the other hand, my Appaloosa is one of 2 
bikes I own that can squeeze inside my Scion xB if I don’t have the Saris 
trunk mount rack on the car, the other being the small Roadini, and my 
current Clem fits the local bus racks, which the next size up probably 
wouldn’t. Most of my riding is multi modal commuting so I need to keep that 
in mind too. 

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:28:48 PM UTC-7 Mark Schneider wrote:

> I still have my 2011, and it's in fine shape considering it was one of 19 
> and now one of 12. It was a standard build and all I've done is add Mafac 
> Raid brakes I found on eBay a couple of years ago that were almost NOS. I'm 
> curious if anyone has owned the both the old Waterford Homer's and the new 
> LWB model?
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 5:08:17 PM UTC-7 lkbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Saw two people on Homer’s on my ride this morning, but I didn’t even 
>> realize there was a release today. I too love the mustard color that’s been 
>> making its rounds through the Riv lineup. 
>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 12:59:26 PM UTC-6 Chester wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone getting in on the latest batch of Homers?
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/homer
>>>
>>> I fought off the urge to get one by realizing that I'm still needing to 
>>> push myself to find time to ride my Roadini more, that it probably suits me 
>>> better, and the main reason why I have a strong urge to get the Homer is 
>>> the cosmetics of the fully lugged frame.
>>>
>>> Scarce garage space helps dull the G.A.S. too.
>>>
>>> Chester
>>> SF Bay Area
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Tire advice for my Toyo homer/max tire size

[Bill Lindsay]

That is a very sporty looking Hilsen.  Slammed stem, 1x drivetrain.  Modern 
black bits here and there.  I normally cringe at the Thomson bent-back 
models but it works on this build.  I like it.  Is it a 61?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:22:41 AM UTC-7 josh.yo...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> [image: IMG_3989.jpeg]I am able to fit 44mm RH Snoqualmie Pass tires on 
> my Waterford Homer without an issue. Great riding tire :)
>
> Josh Youngberg
> Bainbridge Island, WA
>
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[RBW] Re: PDW Safety Tabs

[Steve]

Mark, OUCH!!!  Your story puts an exclamation point on the issue.The 
offending knobby in my case is a very low profile Conti Speed Max, still...

I have ample clearance for at least a 44mm slick. My next move will 
probably be the RH Snoqualmie Pass tires. I would ditch the fenders and 
stuff some 2.0" tires on the bike but they do such a great job of keeping 
the drivetrain clean and the paint on the frame.  

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 2:09:20 AM UTC-4 Mark Schneider wrote:

> Thanks for the heads-up, I helped a guy on a Surly that took a very bad 
> fall do to a stick in his front fender. He ended up in an air ambulance as 
> I recall. Of course, he was running knobies with his fenders, which is 
> always a bad Idea.
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As a semi-fanatical fender freak (aluminum please!) who advocates their 
>> use for nearly any and all bikes, I feel obliged to share that after 
>> rolling over several thousand miles of gravel forest service roads my tire 
>> kicked an unidentified object up into the front fender while at speed. It 
>> was probably a short but stout stick. 
>>
>> When I installed a set of PDW Safety Tabs on my Ritchey a few months ago 
>> I figured they worked as a sacrificial break away item in the event that an 
>> object wedges between the tire and the fender.  What I discovered is that 
>> they employ a barbed plastic head that pops free of the metal tab they are 
>> inserted into. Indeed, I heard a loud POP when this occurred - followed by 
>> the sound of the fender rubbing as it dangled from the opposite, still 
>> intact stay. After straightening the slightly bent stay I was able to pop 
>> the tab back together and continue my ride. 
>>
>> Would I have been launched over the bars by a seized front wheel had I 
>> not installed the safety tabs? I don't know...and it's not a thing I care 
>> to experiment with. 
>>
>> Of course, SKS fenders come standard with safety mounting tabs - but for 
>> anyone running metal fenders that lack a safety tab, I can attest they are 
>> well worth the few dollars they cost.  
>>
>> I'm curious if anyone else has had this sort of experience.[image: 
>> IMG_1591.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PDW Safety Tabs

[Bill Lindsay]

I bought up a bunch of the PDW release guys, in black and silver, so 
there's never even a delay when I'm doing a fender install.  Without them 
on-hand, I'd probably say "oh, I'll get to that later" and karma would get 
me right in that moment.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> As a semi-fanatical fender freak (aluminum please!) who advocates their 
> use for nearly any and all bikes, I feel obliged to share that after 
> rolling over several thousand miles of gravel forest service roads my tire 
> kicked an unidentified object up into the front fender while at speed. It 
> was probably a short but stout stick. 
>
> When I installed a set of PDW Safety Tabs on my Ritchey a few months ago I 
> figured they worked as a sacrificial break away item in the event that an 
> object wedges between the tire and the fender.  What I discovered is that 
> they employ a barbed plastic head that pops free of the metal tab they are 
> inserted into. Indeed, I heard a loud POP when this occurred - followed by 
> the sound of the fender rubbing as it dangled from the opposite, still 
> intact stay. After straightening the slightly bent stay I was able to pop 
> the tab back together and continue my ride. 
>
> Would I have been launched over the bars by a seized front wheel had I not 
> installed the safety tabs? I don't know...and it's not a thing I care to 
> experiment with. 
>
> Of course, SKS fenders come standard with safety mounting tabs - but for 
> anyone running metal fenders that lack a safety tab, I can attest they are 
> well worth the few dollars they cost.  
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has had this sort of experience.[image: 
> IMG_1591.jpeg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Brian Turner]

I’m thinking about switching up my bike style. I’m thinking shirts by Dan Flashes, paired with Calico Cut pants. Maybe even one of those hats like Brian has.*sorry this seemed like too good of an opportunity to fit in some “I Think You Should Leave” references. Anyone?On Sep 16, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Christian B-H  wrote:Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also really fun party shirts:https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirtsThat, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is my go-to bike fit for May-September. Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. - Christian in Colorado, who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Ryan]

Christian you'd fit right in in season 2 of white lotus.
Very stylin

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:56:27 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I’m thinking about switching up my bike style. I’m thinking shirts by Dan 
> Flashes, paired with Calico Cut pants. Maybe even one of those hats like 
> Brian has.
>
>
>
>
>
> *sorry this seemed like too good of an opportunity to fit in some “I Think 
> You Should Leave” references. Anyone?
>
> On Sep 16, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Christian B-H  wrote:
>
> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
> LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>
>
> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise 
> jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men 
> definitely need more accessories! 
>
> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing 
> these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also 
> really fun party shirts:
>
> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>
> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is 
> my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
>
> 
>
>
>
> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>
> - Christian in Colorado, 
> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
>> treating you? 
>>
>> Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
>> matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…
>>
>> I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will 
>> be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
>> trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
>> of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
>> so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
>> to help me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then 
>> as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at 
>> the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
>> tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
>> drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
>> rectify this issue. 
>>
>>
>>
>> However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
>> jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other 
>> side! 
>>
>> On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. 
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over 
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my 
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those 
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got 
>>> home, well…here’s a photo. 
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will 
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move 
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me 
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the 
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in 

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Eliot Balogh]

Beautiful newer Atlantis.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-atlantis-59cm/7666754057.html

On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 9:09 AM Calvin Yolo  wrote:

> Sorry, I was rushed while offering this up!
>
> My Homer is from late 2021 in Homer Blue, size 51cm. Not ridden much since
> getting my Roadeo, maybe a few scratches. It's been at my friend's house
> (another Riv rider with a Rosco Plat) stored away while I recovered from
> knee surgery. I'll be picking it up in the next week and thought I would
> throw the offer out there during that time to gauge any interest. I'll be
> going for something like a Clem. Pics to come.
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:07:48 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Ah. I am now better informed.
>>
>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:02:27 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> I, too, was curious about this but wanted to find out the size of
>>> Calvin's AHH. So, I did some RBW list searching and found that Calvin
>>> ordered it in Nov 2021 and had it built up by early Jan 2022. There are
>>> some nice pictures in emails that he posted as part of a Homer thread on
>>> Jan 9, 2022.
>>> (BTW, it is a blue 51cm.)
>>> He also has a striking, gray Roadeo that is featured in the Riv employee
>>> bikes gallery.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/calvins-55cm-roadeo-83cm-pbh
>>> 
>>>
>>> He started working there as a bike packer late last year.
>>> I've worked in bike shops and it is not unusual to buy a new bike or
>>> frame at an employee discount (probably 30%), build it up, then flip it for
>>> basically the cost of another new one. (My problem was becoming attached to
>>> them!)
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 10:20:01 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I understanding that you're selling your not-yet-delivered Homer
>>> frame for $300 less than you just paid? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone potentially interested in my Homer Hilsen frameset? Thinking I'm
>>> going to switch it up. $1450 and I'll box it up ship it out straight from
>>> Rivendell HQ. Or someone can come by the shop and pick it up.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Homers Going Live in a Few Minutes

[iamkeith]

Let me help.  :-)



On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:52:43 AM UTC-6 Dorothy C wrote:

I have been wondering all week what G.A.S. meant, and ran across it on the 
Path Less Pedalled Sam thread - gear acquisition sydrome... the Purchase 
Justification Machine I have 5 Rivendells now, and I am trying to quell 
the urge to replace sizes on two of them where technically the next 
size up would be a better fit and would open up 27.5 mountain bike tire 
sizes... my Appaloosa is one of 2 bikes I own that can squeeze inside my 
Scion xB


What you need is a circa 2006-8 Saluki, which was the old name for the 
Homer.  650 wheels, but shorter chainstays so it will fit your car (and 
give you some variety) and was available in the same butternut/mustard 
brown/yellow that the new batch of homers comes in.  Maybe by the time you 
find one, your desire will have cooled off.   Probably not, but always good 
to have a reason not to make spontaneous purchases - even ones you won't  
regret.

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Max S]

Did anyone here buy that?.. Curious about some slight geo diffs. between 
the SO and the QB, like BB drop, setback, front-center... 

- Max "curious minds" in A2

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 3:28:03 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Does this belong to someone on the list here?
>
> Simpleone 
> 58cm Green
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/186064411809?hash=item2b524d9ca1:g:6VcAAOSwOcBk9hv3
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 3:04:49 PM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> happy hump day to all
>>
>> self promoting my medium gus for pickup in nyc 
>>
>>
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-gus-boots-willsen/7660623554.html
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 9:21:57 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> An unusual Homer! Double tube, darker blue than I'm used to seeing. Nice 
>>> build. Oddly the listing makes no mention of the 3x1 drivetrain.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 9:16:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 Cheviot f/f/hs
 60cm
 Tulsa, Okay 
 Auction: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115901802895

 [image: s-l1600.jpg]

 On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:23:27 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:

> Bike Recyclery has a NOS 60cm Yves Gomez for $1499.99
>
>
> https://bikerecyclery.com/nos-rivendell-yves-gomez-betty-foy-frameset-fork-hs-br-bb-60cm-700c-fenders-racks-heart-cutout-lugs-black-white-gold/
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 12:50:33 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams 
> wrote:
>
>> A. Homer Hilsen (curved 2TT!)
>> 64cm
>> 3400
>> East Hampton, NY
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/404463031464
>>
>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tire advice for my Toyo homer/max tire size

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Thanks, Bill!

I'm usually on the fence in regards to the bent-back Thomson as well. It 
seems to work on some bikes and not on others. I think its working on my 
Homer...?

When I got my Homer I wanted to build a Rivendell that wasn't like most 
other Rivendells. The look is a little divisive I guess. I like it though. 
Its a great ride!

Josh Youngberg
Bainbridge Island, WA

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco, Nitto Stems, Compass + Schwalbe Tires, Velocity Dyad Front Wheel

[Kim H.]

PM'd you Bryan about the Nitto bars.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7 bryan...@gmail.com wrote:

> *PERISCOPA STEM HAS SOLD. TECHNOMIC IS PENDING.*
>
> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 6:50:21 PM UTC-4 Bryan Dalik wrote:
>
>> Andrew is correct! Stem is a Periscopa from Nitto, still 80mm and 25.4. 
>> Price is dropped to *$35 shipped. *
>>
>>
>> *COMPASS BARLOW PASS HAVE SOLD.*
>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 6:23:49 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bryan,
>>> I believe the tall stem you have listed is a Periscopa, not a Dirt Drop.
>>> See: Nitto Stem Comparison 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Nitto Stem Comparison
>>>
>>> Periscopa, DirtDrop 8, DirtDrop 10, Tech Std, Tech Dlx, Lugged. Not 
>>> pictured is the Tallux, but it's the same si...
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Andrew in Sydney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 07:06:48 AM GMT+10, Bryan Dalik <
>>> bryan...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Listing a few things for sale here:
>>>
>>> Nitto Bosco bars 58cm - I believe they're heat treated, in like new 
>>> condition. Comes with original plastic packaging. Neat Nitto logos on 
>>> these. Looking for *$100 *shipped.
>>>
>>> Nitto Technomic Stem 130mm/140mm - For 25.4mm bars. It's quite a long 
>>> reach. Pulled off a Clem, would be great for Bosco bars or anything with a 
>>> lot of sweepback. Like new condition as well. Looking for *$45 *shipped. 
>>> Happy to package the bars and stem for *$130 for both.*
>>>
>>> Nitto Dirt Drop stem 80mm - For 25.4mm bars. This has a bit of cosmetic 
>>> wear, but is in perfectly fine shape. Looking for *$50 *shipped. 
>>>
>>> Velocity Dyad Front Wheel - 700c. Great rim brake rim, tubes only. Comes 
>>> with Shimano Deore LX hub. Been used some, so some brake wear. In good 
>>> shape, perfectly true. Looking for *$110 *shipped.
>>>
>>> Compass Barlow Pass 38mm tires - Been used some but plenty of tread 
>>> left. Looking for *50$ *shipped.
>>>
>>> Schwalbe Big Ben 28x2.0 tires - Pulled off a Clem as well. These fit 
>>> 700c rims. Not much use at all on these. Looking for *$40 *shipped. 
>>>
>>> Photos for all parts - 
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eMwZeFGzprQRbfHsHI-efy28sICdQ3FY?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[J S]

Someone got a deal.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 7:57 PM Max S  wrote:

> Did anyone here buy that?.. Curious about some slight geo diffs. between
> the SO and the QB, like BB drop, setback, front-center...
>
> - Max "curious minds" in A2
>
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 3:28:03 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey
> wrote:
>
>> Does this belong to someone on the list here?
>>
>> Simpleone
>> 58cm Green
>> Brooklyn, NY
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/186064411809?hash=item2b524d9ca1:g:6VcAAOSwOcBk9hv3
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 3:04:49 PM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> happy hump day to all
>>>
>>> self promoting my medium gus for pickup in nyc
>>>
>>>
>>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-gus-boots-willsen/7660623554.html
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 9:21:57 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 An unusual Homer! Double tube, darker blue than I'm used to seeing.
 Nice build. Oddly the listing makes no mention of the 3x1 drivetrain.

 On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 9:16:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Cheviot f/f/hs
> 60cm
> Tulsa, Okay
> Auction: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115901802895
>
> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:23:27 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:
>
>> Bike Recyclery has a NOS 60cm Yves Gomez for $1499.99
>>
>>
>> https://bikerecyclery.com/nos-rivendell-yves-gomez-betty-foy-frameset-fork-hs-br-bb-60cm-700c-fenders-racks-heart-cutout-lugs-black-white-gold/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 12:50:33 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen (curved 2TT!)
>>> 64cm
>>> 3400
>>> East Hampton, NY
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/404463031464
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: PDW Safety Tabs

[Steve]

Tempt not the fates for their hand is powerful!  

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:55:33 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I bought up a bunch of the PDW release guys, in black and silver, so 
> there's never even a delay when I'm doing a fender install.  Without them 
> on-hand, I'd probably say "oh, I'll get to that later" and karma would get 
> me right in that moment.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As a semi-fanatical fender freak (aluminum please!) who advocates their 
>> use for nearly any and all bikes, I feel obliged to share that after 
>> rolling over several thousand miles of gravel forest service roads my tire 
>> kicked an unidentified object up into the front fender while at speed. It 
>> was probably a short but stout stick. 
>>
>> When I installed a set of PDW Safety Tabs on my Ritchey a few months ago 
>> I figured they worked as a sacrificial break away item in the event that an 
>> object wedges between the tire and the fender.  What I discovered is that 
>> they employ a barbed plastic head that pops free of the metal tab they are 
>> inserted into. Indeed, I heard a loud POP when this occurred - followed by 
>> the sound of the fender rubbing as it dangled from the opposite, still 
>> intact stay. After straightening the slightly bent stay I was able to pop 
>> the tab back together and continue my ride. 
>>
>> Would I have been launched over the bars by a seized front wheel had I 
>> not installed the safety tabs? I don't know...and it's not a thing I care 
>> to experiment with. 
>>
>> Of course, SKS fenders come standard with safety mounting tabs - but for 
>> anyone running metal fenders that lack a safety tab, I can attest they are 
>> well worth the few dollars they cost.  
>>
>> I'm curious if anyone else has had this sort of experience.[image: 
>> IMG_1591.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Homers Going Live in a Few Minutes

[Stephen Durfee]

There's a my-size Waterford built Homer frame on CL that I've been 
wondering aboutis it very different from the newer version? 

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 4:53:24 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> Let me help.  :-)
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:52:43 AM UTC-6 Dorothy C wrote:
>
> I have been wondering all week what G.A.S. meant, and ran across it on the 
> Path Less Pedalled Sam thread - gear acquisition sydrome... the Purchase 
> Justification Machine I have 5 Rivendells now, and I am trying to quell 
> the urge to replace sizes on two of them where technically the next 
> size up would be a better fit and would open up 27.5 mountain bike tire 
> sizes... my Appaloosa is one of 2 bikes I own that can squeeze inside my 
> Scion xB
>
>
> What you need is a circa 2006-8 Saluki, which was the old name for the 
> Homer.  650 wheels, but shorter chainstays so it will fit your car (and 
> give you some variety) and was available in the same butternut/mustard 
> brown/yellow that the new batch of homers comes in.  Maybe by the time you 
> find one, your desire will have cooled off.   Probably not, but always good 
> to have a reason not to make spontaneous purchases - even ones you won't  
> regret.
>

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[RBW] Re: Homers Going Live in a Few Minutes

[Joe Bernard]

That's a pricey American-made traditional flat-toptube road bike with 
fairly light tubing..I suspect lighter than the MIT Homer. I never should 
have sold mine, go buy that one! 

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> There's a my-size Waterford built Homer frame on CL that I've been 
> wondering aboutis it very different from the newer version? 
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 4:53:24 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Let me help.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 7:52:43 AM UTC-6 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>> I have been wondering all week what G.A.S. meant, and ran across it on 
>> the Path Less Pedalled Sam thread - gear acquisition sydrome... the 
>> Purchase Justification Machine I have 5 Rivendells now, and I am trying 
>> to quell the urge to replace sizes on two of them where technically the 
>> next size up would be a better fit and would open up 27.5 mountain bike 
>> tire sizes... my Appaloosa is one of 2 bikes I own that can squeeze inside 
>> my Scion xB
>>
>>
>> What you need is a circa 2006-8 Saluki, which was the old name for the 
>> Homer.  650 wheels, but shorter chainstays so it will fit your car (and 
>> give you some variety) and was available in the same butternut/mustard 
>> brown/yellow that the new batch of homers comes in.  Maybe by the time you 
>> find one, your desire will have cooled off.   Probably not, but always good 
>> to have a reason not to make spontaneous purchases - even ones you won't  
>> regret.
>>
>

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