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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr. 59cm - Blue

2023-10-10 Thread Connor Brooks


Yes Bedford, Texas. 

I’ll be shipping via my shop, so it’ll be relatively cheap. I’m estimating 
~$125-150 To most places in the lower 48. 
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:51:22 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Conner is in Bedford, Texas.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 5:49 PM James  wrote:
>
>> Where are you located Connor? From my recent experience, shipping and 
>> packaging can be upwards of $300
>>
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 connorb...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Clem 4 Sale - 59cm
>>> I would like to get $2000+ ship
>>> Shipping will likely be much cheaper than from Riv., I'm thinking around 
>>> $125-150.
>>> Lightly used. Maybe 150-ish miles, but drivetrain and brakes haven’t 
>>> been used, I swapped out as soon as I got it. 
>>> Selling as shown w/ seahorse pedals, pletscher kickstand, shimano dyno 
>>> hub, and bosco-moose bars. 
>>> Seat tube lug has some paint missing that happened in transit to me, and 
>>> post has some scratches pictured as well.
>>>
>>> Pics:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/x2pAl0T
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: retrofitting for Rohloff speedhub

2023-10-10 Thread Gerard McMahon

Cool, thanks very helpful. Love the combination of robust and low maintenance!Gerard McMahongmcmaho...@gmail.com919-604-2572Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 9, 2023, at 19:29, WETH  wrote:I commute year round, including the winter (Mid-Atlantic winters are not like the Midwest, but we do get freezing rain and occasional snow.).  I went the custom route but asked my frame builder to make the bike ride similarly to my Riv Hunqapillar which is one of the later versions and has longer stays.  I went with a Pinion gearbox, carbon belt drive, and hydraulic disc brakes.  I used Bantam https://www.bantambicycles.com/Bob was great to deal with and added many nice touches to the build.  The only maintenance I have done in a bit over two years and 8,000 miles is to replace the rear tire and change the oil in the gearbox (2x-once per year).  Erl HoustonKensington, MDOn Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:53:34 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:I recall reading this article about it. https://www.cyclemonkey.com/blog/classic-commuter-rohloff-rivendellI’ve been curious myself. I commute on a rohloff surly ogre and love it for a Midwest-winter-proof commuter, but have often considered commuting on a Clem or the like as I prefer the ride feel of my rivs. I was thinking of starting a thread dedicated to daily or semi-regular Rivendell commuters to see what folks are doing out there. On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-4 Gerard McMahon wrote:Friends, I'm wondering if anyone has tried retrofitting their Rivendell to use a Rohloff hub with a carbon belt drive instead of a chain. Am at the exploration stage.  TIA for any thoughts about this, especially if you've actually tried it out!  Jerry McMahon



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 63 cm Romulus

2023-10-10 Thread Barbara Peterson

that was a smaller romulus that I posted of few weeks ago
this post is for a friend who purchased a larger one at the same time

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 4:50 PM awalton  wrote:

> Is this perhaps a scam? see this post, claiming the same bike had sold:
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/h4MZY0mFWxg/m/vRe4rtNcAgAJ
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-7 johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> PM Sent
>>
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 9:03:41 AM UTC-7 bapete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Original owner 63cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best
>>> offer
>>> photos attached
>>>
>>> Standard Riv Build:
>>> Tiagra hubs
>>> Alex adventurer2 rims
>>> Schwalbe/Armadillo 700x35 tires
>>> 105 derailers
>>> shimano std reach side pull brakes
>>> shimano sora triple crank
>>> nitto s65 seatpost
>>> nitto 46 cm Noodle handlebars
>>> nitto technomic 11cm stem
>>> shimano dura ace bar end shifters
>>> tiagra brake levers
>>>
>>> Local pickup only. Owner is in Berkeley CA. No shipping
>>> Cash or Venmo
>>>
>>> Thanks for considering
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: retrofitting for Rohloff speedhub

2023-10-10 Thread Gerard McMahon

Thanks, Josh…super helpful. It’s nice to visualize what this would look like . I have a 60 Cheviot, so big frame. Not sure if belt drive would work.JerryGerard McMahongmcmaho...@gmail.com919-604-2572Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 9, 2023, at 18:53, Josh C wrote:I recall reading this article about it. https://www.cyclemonkey.com/blog/classic-commuter-rohloff-rivendellI’ve been curious myself. I commute on a rohloff surly ogre and love it for a Midwest-winter-proof commuter, but have often considered commuting on a Clem or the like as I prefer the ride feel of my rivs. I was thinking of starting a thread dedicated to daily or semi-regular Rivendell commuters to see what folks are doing out there. On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-4 Gerard McMahon wrote:Friends, I'm wondering if anyone has tried retrofitting their Rivendell to use a Rohloff hub with a carbon belt drive instead of a chain. Am at the exploration stage. TIA for any thoughts about this, especially if you've actually tried it out! Jerry McMahon

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Re: [RBW] retrofitting for Rohloff speedhub

2023-10-10 Thread Gerard McMahon

Thanks Victor, this is helpful. Not sure what you were referring to with Thron? Again, thanksGerard McMahongmcmaho...@gmail.com919-604-2572Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 9, 2023, at 12:13, Victor Hanson wrote:As far as retrofitting a frame, the stays that Riv uses are plenty beefy to accept the Paragon seatstay splitter. This is not cheap as you would also need new drop outs, you might be better off with a Thron. vtwOn Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 9:04 AM Gerard McMahon wrote:Friends, I'm wondering if anyone has tried retrofitting their Rivendell to use a Rohloff hub with a carbon belt drive instead of a chain. Am at the exploration stage. TIA for any thoughts about this, especially if you've actually tried it out! Jerry McMahon

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr. 59cm - Blue

2023-10-10 Thread Connor Brooks

Its pictured in the last photo on that imgur link

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Conner - 
> Can you post a picture of the seat tube lug has some paint missing?
> Thank-you.
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-7 connorb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Clem 4 Sale - 59cm
>> I would like to get $2000+ ship
>> Shipping will likely be much cheaper than from Riv., I'm thinking around 
>> $125-150.
>> Lightly used. Maybe 150-ish miles, but drivetrain and brakes haven’t been 
>> used, I swapped out as soon as I got it. 
>> Selling as shown w/ seahorse pedals, pletscher kickstand, shimano dyno 
>> hub, and bosco-moose bars. 
>> Seat tube lug has some paint missing that happened in transit to me, and 
>> post has some scratches pictured as well.
>>
>> Pics:
>> https://imgur.com/a/x2pAl0T
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver 2 Shifter w/ Mount, Nexave RR Rear Derailer

2023-10-10 Thread Stephen Durfee

I would be happy to take the Nexave, if it's still available!  sd

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 3:15:44 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The shifter has been spoken for. Here are photos of the Nexave. Excellent 
> + condition.
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 5:48:08 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I am clearing out a few more things. I will try to get some photos 
>> together.
>>
>>1. Nexave rapid rise rear derailer. This is the kind that Rivendell 
>>has a small stash of and uses only for builds. They sold some awhile ago 
>>but they are long gone. The big pulley version. I picked this up because 
>> I 
>>really wanted to use it on my Clem L but life it life right now and this 
>> is 
>>filed into the "not going to happen anytime soon" category so off it 
>> goes. 
>>I got this one from another RBW member. It came on their proto gallop and 
>>they swapped it out. Brand new when installed and as far as I can tell 
>>there was little miles ever put on it. *$90 shipped*
>>2. Silver 2 shifter with the Riv mount. This is an x shifter for 
>>inside use of the rear or outside mount of the front. Its friction so it 
>>doesn't matter. My plan was to use it on the inside of the bar for the 
>>rear. It has a brass bit that Rivendell sells. I will see if I have the 
>>silver but that came with it. The mount is the Riv handlebar mount. Has 
>> the 
>>shim to so you can use it with any kind of bars. Perfect for a 1x or if 
>> you 
>>just want to do a friction thumb on one side. *$50 shipped*
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: retrofitting for Rohloff speedhub

2023-10-10 Thread WilletM

I have two Rohloff-equipped bikes (a chain-drive titanium Salsa Fargo and a 
belt-drive Surly Krampus) and two Riv's (a Bombadil and a 
Protovelo/Bombadil).  If I had it all to do over again, I would probably 
still go with Rohloff's on the non-Riv bikes and then Phil hubs or 
something similar on the Riv's.  I ride the Krampus all winter on heavily 
sanded and mag chloride-slathered roads high up in Colorado, and the belt 
and the hub (and the rest of the bike, really) are pretty well trashed by 
springtime and in need of serious scrubbing and scheduled maintenance.  
That said, I've had no un-scheduled maintenance or repairs needed in the 
6-8 years that I've had the two Rohloff's, with the exception of replacing 
the seals on the Fargo when the hub oil started to seep out a little too 
much and make the disc rotor and other things back there lightly coated 
with oil.

The main reasons why I would never consider retrofitting either of the 
Riv's is WEIGHT (they are friggin' boat anchor-ly), aesthetics (they kind 
of look like hub-motored e-bikes), and the exceptional high cost of 
obtaining the parts and doing the frame mods.  

Best of luck to you in whichever direction you decide to go.

Willet M.
Carbondale, CO

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 5:29:14 PM UTC-6 WETH wrote:

> I commute year round, including the winter (Mid-Atlantic winters are not 
> like the Midwest, but we do get freezing rain and occasional snow.).  I 
> went the custom route but asked my frame builder to make the bike ride 
> similarly to my Riv Hunqapillar which is one of the later versions and has 
> longer stays.  I went with a Pinion gearbox, carbon belt drive, and 
> hydraulic disc brakes.  I used Bantam https://www.bantambicycles.com/
> Bob was great to deal with and added many nice touches to the build.  The 
> only maintenance I have done in a bit over two years and 8,000 miles is to 
> replace the rear tire and change the oil in the gearbox (2x-once per 
> year).  
>
> Erl Houston
> Kensington, MD
>
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:53:34 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>>
>> I recall reading this article about it. 
>> https://www.cyclemonkey.com/blog/classic-commuter-rohloff-rivendell
>>
>> I’ve been curious myself. I commute on a rohloff surly ogre and love it 
>> for a Midwest-winter-proof commuter, but have often considered commuting on 
>> a Clem or the like as I prefer the ride feel of my rivs. I was thinking of 
>> starting a thread dedicated to daily or semi-regular Rivendell commuters to 
>> see what folks are doing out there. 
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-4 Gerard McMahon wrote:
>>
>>> Friends, I'm wondering if anyone has tried retrofitting their Rivendell 
>>> to use a Rohloff hub with a carbon belt drive instead of a chain. Am at the 
>>> exploration stage.  TIA for any thoughts about this, especially if you've 
>>> actually tried it out!  Jerry McMahon
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr. 59cm - Blue

2023-10-10 Thread Kim H.

Conner is in Bedford, Texas.

Kim Hetzel.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 5:49 PM James  wrote:

> Where are you located Connor? From my recent experience, shipping and
> packaging can be upwards of $300
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 connorb...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Clem 4 Sale - 59cm
>> I would like to get $2000+ ship
>> Shipping will likely be much cheaper than from Riv., I'm thinking around
>> $125-150.
>> Lightly used. Maybe 150-ish miles, but drivetrain and brakes haven’t been
>> used, I swapped out as soon as I got it.
>> Selling as shown w/ seahorse pedals, pletscher kickstand, shimano dyno
>> hub, and bosco-moose bars.
>> Seat tube lug has some paint missing that happened in transit to me, and
>> post has some scratches pictured as well.
>>
>> Pics:
>> https://imgur.com/a/x2pAl0T
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr. 59cm - Blue

2023-10-10 Thread James

Where are you located Connor? From my recent experience, shipping and 
packaging can be upwards of $300

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 connorb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Clem 4 Sale - 59cm
> I would like to get $2000+ ship
> Shipping will likely be much cheaper than from Riv., I'm thinking around 
> $125-150.
> Lightly used. Maybe 150-ish miles, but drivetrain and brakes haven’t been 
> used, I swapped out as soon as I got it. 
> Selling as shown w/ seahorse pedals, pletscher kickstand, shimano dyno 
> hub, and bosco-moose bars. 
> Seat tube lug has some paint missing that happened in transit to me, and 
> post has some scratches pictured as well.
>
> Pics:
> https://imgur.com/a/x2pAl0T
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv hats available-unique sample

2023-10-10 Thread m f

Same as these, different colors 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/rbw-hat-royal-gold

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:29:20 PM UTC-5 m f wrote:

> Kyle Kelley has some sample Riv hats for sale to benefit a LA area 
> charity. These are samples that were made when Riv released their newest 
> royal blue SnapBack caps. Only 50 available .
>
> Contact info is in the attached image. 
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 63 cm Romulus

2023-10-10 Thread awalton

Is this perhaps a scam? see this post, claiming the same bike had 
sold: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/h4MZY0mFWxg/m/vRe4rtNcAgAJ

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-7 johanne...@gmail.com wrote:

> PM Sent
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 9:03:41 AM UTC-7 bapete...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Original owner 63cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best offer
>> photos attached
>>
>> Standard Riv Build:
>> Tiagra hubs
>> Alex adventurer2 rims
>> Schwalbe/Armadillo 700x35 tires
>> 105 derailers
>> shimano std reach side pull brakes 
>> shimano sora triple crank
>> nitto s65 seatpost
>> nitto 46 cm Noodle handlebars
>> nitto technomic 11cm stem
>> shimano dura ace bar end shifters
>> tiagra brake levers
>>
>> Local pickup only. Owner is in Berkeley CA. No shipping
>> Cash or Venmo
>>
>> Thanks for considering
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

2023-10-10 Thread Dorothy C

I have a Burley Nomad and a Burley Travoy (seat post mount). I have found 
that the axle hitch on the Nomad doesn’t fit on my little 26” Appaloosa as 
the curved drop out protector comes in too tight to allow the Nomad hitch 
to sit flat, so I leave the Nomad hitch on the Clem, and the Travoy hitch 
on the Appa.  I bought the extra shopping bags for the Travoy so loading it 
works better than the big soft sided bag it comes with.  I also have the 
choice of Backabike bags and a Nitto basket rack and Wald racer basket on 
the Clem if I am not shopping for as much stuff. The Clem is nice and 
stable with panniers - it is a 26” wheel 2019 45cm. 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 8:21:45 AM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

>
>> It's been a few years since I was the grocery-getter in this household, 
>> but I used to use rear panniers and a very large backpack. The heavy stuff 
>> went in the panniers or low in the backpack.
>
>
> I favour backpacks as a heavy guy (95 kg), as they enable me to use my 
> legs as shock absorbers. (I also used one for my work commute.)
>
> I tried a front basket but did not like it for any kind of load.
>
> It worked for me as I lived down a hill from my grocery stores and could 
> mostly coast home... 
>
> EricF
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Sand Lot Stubby short billed baseball cap

2023-10-10 Thread Stephen

will send pm dibs pls 

-stephen

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 5:19:11 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Y'all,
>
> I got one of the white short billed baseball caps before they sold out, 
> worn it maybe a total of 15 minutes, and just don't think I've got the head 
> shape for it. Would love it to go to someone who missed out!
>
> Happy to send photos to verify the condition.
>
> Not trying to make any cash on scarcity, but would love to make my $35 
> back + shipping. 
>
> First to hit DM me can claim it!
>
> - Drew
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr. 59cm - Blue

2023-10-10 Thread Josh C

It's one of the pics that he has listed. Good looking bike. 

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:24:56 PM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

> @Conner - 
> Can you post a picture of the seat tube lug has some paint missing?
> Thank-you.
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-7 connorb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Clem 4 Sale - 59cm
>> I would like to get $2000+ ship
>> Shipping will likely be much cheaper than from Riv., I'm thinking around 
>> $125-150.
>> Lightly used. Maybe 150-ish miles, but drivetrain and brakes haven’t been 
>> used, I swapped out as soon as I got it. 
>> Selling as shown w/ seahorse pedals, pletscher kickstand, shimano dyno 
>> hub, and bosco-moose bars. 
>> Seat tube lug has some paint missing that happened in transit to me, and 
>> post has some scratches pictured as well.
>>
>> Pics:
>> https://imgur.com/a/x2pAl0T
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Silver 2 Shifter w/ Mount, Nexave RR Rear Derailer

2023-10-10 Thread Johnny Alien

I am clearing out a few more things. I will try to get some photos together.

1. Nexave rapid rise rear derailer. This is the kind that Rivendell has
a small stash of and uses only for builds. They sold some awhile ago but
they are long gone. The big pulley version. I picked this up because I
really wanted to use it on my Clem L but life it life right now and this is
filed into the "not going to happen anytime soon" category so off it goes.
I got this one from another RBW member. It came on their proto gallop and
they swapped it out. Brand new when installed and as far as I can tell
there was little miles ever put on it. *$90 shipped*
2. Silver 2 shifter with the Riv mount. This is an x shifter for inside
use of the rear or outside mount of the front. Its friction so it doesn't
matter. My plan was to use it on the inside of the bar for the rear. It has
a brass bit that Rivendell sells. I will see if I have the silver but that
came with it. The mount is the Riv handlebar mount. Has the shim to so you
can use it with any kind of bars. Perfect for a 1x or if you just want to
do a friction thumb on one side. *$50 shipped*

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread Piaw Na

Tire size should be the determining factor. If you don't need anything more 
than 35mm on the rear the lighter bike is better. I'm a big fan of low BBs, 
and the 700c version of the Malocchio fits the bill, but I think I'd be 
unhappy about not being able to run 700x40mm Terra Speeds, so overall I'm 
happy I went with the Roadini.

I'm also bothered by the non-matching front and rear brakes --- it's clear 
that they screwed up on the manufacturing on the Malocchio, which also 
means that I'm not so sure I'd trust them on the rest of the bike being to 
spec. Then again, the slipping seatpost on the Roadini bothers me too --- 
nobody's perfect.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:

> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed and 
> multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I can't 
> help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just wondering.

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[RBW] Riv Sand Lot Stubby short billed baseball cap

2023-10-10 Thread Drew Fitchette

Hey Y'all,

I got one of the white short billed baseball caps before they sold out, 
worn it maybe a total of 15 minutes, and just don't think I've got the head 
shape for it. Would love it to go to someone who missed out!

Happy to send photos to verify the condition.

Not trying to make any cash on scarcity, but would love to make my $35 back 
+ shipping. 

First to hit DM me can claim it!

- Drew

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread eddietheflay

Yes that geo diagram is what my fit requirements are all about. 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 1:55:42 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:

> Yes, much - 
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5bb29e327581960016665a32,6207ee4bee32e9001d9b652c
> ,
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 4:51:31 PM UTC-4 eddietheflay wrote:
>
>> Truth be told I prefer as much stack as possible due to needing bars 
>> significantly above saddle height. I could do that with the Crust but my 
>> stem might look like it's touching the sky. Of course as mentioned above I 
>> know I like light better but the Riv geo is better for my fit and aesthetic 
>> preferences. Headtube on Crust is typical old style short and I think 
>> (while not quoted by Riv) that the Roadini is taller.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 1:27:35 PM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm currently selling a pre-production XL Malocchio & have actually 
>>> ridden both...and am looking for a 57cm Roadini. They are very different. 
>>> The Malocchio is incredibly lightweight. My XL, which is technically a 63cm 
>>> frame, weighs 6.3 lbs for the frame, fork, and headset with spacers. I can 
>>> say from the experience of owning a lot of XL steel frames that it's at 
>>> least a pound lighter all together than any classic lightweight steel bike 
>>> I've owned in that size (62cm & up).
>>> As to the ride the Malocchio rides like a straight up road bike (my 
>>> points of comparison are my old RB-1 & my old Bianchi Reparto Corse with 
>>> EL/OS). It just happens to fit 42s (at least the pre-production model does) 
>>> & is aluminum light. I feel like people trying to pigeonhole the Roadini 
>>> has been beat into the ground so I'm not going to compare the two other 
>>> than saying they ride very different. The Malocchio is very responsive & 
>>> the Roadini (to me) rides like a springy Riv. 
>>> As to one being more or less multi-purpose? It really depends on what 
>>> you want to do and how you like a bike to fit & feel. 42 width tires can 
>>> take you a lot of places.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:27:08 PM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:
>>>
 Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed 
 and multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I 
 can't help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just 
 wondering.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread DavidP

Yes, much - 
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5bb29e327581960016665a32,6207ee4bee32e9001d9b652c,

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 4:51:31 PM UTC-4 eddietheflay wrote:

> Truth be told I prefer as much stack as possible due to needing bars 
> significantly above saddle height. I could do that with the Crust but my 
> stem might look like it's touching the sky. Of course as mentioned above I 
> know I like light better but the Riv geo is better for my fit and aesthetic 
> preferences. Headtube on Crust is typical old style short and I think 
> (while not quoted by Riv) that the Roadini is taller.
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 1:27:35 PM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> I'm currently selling a pre-production XL Malocchio & have actually 
>> ridden both...and am looking for a 57cm Roadini. They are very different. 
>> The Malocchio is incredibly lightweight. My XL, which is technically a 63cm 
>> frame, weighs 6.3 lbs for the frame, fork, and headset with spacers. I can 
>> say from the experience of owning a lot of XL steel frames that it's at 
>> least a pound lighter all together than any classic lightweight steel bike 
>> I've owned in that size (62cm & up).
>> As to the ride the Malocchio rides like a straight up road bike (my 
>> points of comparison are my old RB-1 & my old Bianchi Reparto Corse with 
>> EL/OS). It just happens to fit 42s (at least the pre-production model does) 
>> & is aluminum light. I feel like people trying to pigeonhole the Roadini 
>> has been beat into the ground so I'm not going to compare the two other 
>> than saying they ride very different. The Malocchio is very responsive & 
>> the Roadini (to me) rides like a springy Riv. 
>> As to one being more or less multi-purpose? It really depends on what you 
>> want to do and how you like a bike to fit & feel. 42 width tires can take 
>> you a lot of places.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:27:08 PM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:
>>
>>> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed 
>>> and multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I 
>>> can't help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just 
>>> wondering.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread eddietheflay

Truth be told I prefer as much stack as possible due to needing bars 
significantly above saddle height. I could do that with the Crust but my 
stem might look like it's touching the sky. Of course as mentioned above I 
know I like light better but the Riv geo is better for my fit and aesthetic 
preferences. Headtube on Crust is typical old style short and I think 
(while not quoted by Riv) that the Roadini is taller.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 1:27:35 PM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote:

> I'm currently selling a pre-production XL Malocchio & have actually ridden 
> both...and am looking for a 57cm Roadini. They are very different. The 
> Malocchio is incredibly lightweight. My XL, which is technically a 63cm 
> frame, weighs 6.3 lbs for the frame, fork, and headset with spacers. I can 
> say from the experience of owning a lot of XL steel frames that it's at 
> least a pound lighter all together than any classic lightweight steel bike 
> I've owned in that size (62cm & up).
> As to the ride the Malocchio rides like a straight up road bike (my points 
> of comparison are my old RB-1 & my old Bianchi Reparto Corse with EL/OS). 
> It just happens to fit 42s (at least the pre-production model does) & is 
> aluminum light. I feel like people trying to pigeonhole the Roadini has 
> been beat into the ground so I'm not going to compare the two other than 
> saying they ride very different. The Malocchio is very responsive & the 
> Roadini (to me) rides like a springy Riv. 
> As to one being more or less multi-purpose? It really depends on what you 
> want to do and how you like a bike to fit & feel. 42 width tires can take 
> you a lot of places.
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:27:08 PM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:
>
>> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed 
>> and multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I 
>> can't help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just 
>> wondering.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread exliontamer

I'm currently selling a pre-production XL Malocchio & have actually ridden 
both...and am looking for a 57cm Roadini. They are very different. The 
Malocchio is incredibly lightweight. My XL, which is technically a 63cm 
frame, weighs 6.3 lbs for the frame, fork, and headset with spacers. I can 
say from the experience of owning a lot of XL steel frames that it's at 
least a pound lighter all together than any classic lightweight steel bike 
I've owned in that size (62cm & up).
As to the ride the Malocchio rides like a straight up road bike (my points 
of comparison are my old RB-1 & my old Bianchi Reparto Corse with EL/OS). 
It just happens to fit 42s (at least the pre-production model does) & is 
aluminum light. I feel like people trying to pigeonhole the Roadini has 
been beat into the ground so I'm not going to compare the two other than 
saying they ride very different. The Malocchio is very responsive & the 
Roadini (to me) rides like a springy Riv. 
As to one being more or less multi-purpose? It really depends on what you 
want to do and how you like a bike to fit & feel. 42 width tires can take 
you a lot of places.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:27:08 PM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:

> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed and 
> multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I can't 
> help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just wondering.

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread DavidP

Ronnie Romance has some thoughts (including weight) over at ronsbikesblog 
.

I think you've basically summed it up. Though the Malocchio is more road 
racy when compared to the the Roadini, in the grand scheme it's geometry is 
still endurance biased. The tubing on the Malocchio is very lightweight.. I 
recently picked up a prototype 57cm frameset that weighs 6lbs 
(frame/fork/headset).

-Dave

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 3:27:08 PM UTC-4 eddietheflay wrote:

> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed and 
> multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I can't 
> help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just wondering.

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread Bill Lindsay

In the subject line the question was asked "is it blasphemous to ask how
you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?"

No, I don't think it's blasphemous to ask that. I think they are very
different bikes for sure.

Then the OP goes on to say "I know we're not supposed to talk about weight
but..."

I think you misunderstand. Lighter is almost always better, all else being
equal. Everyone knows this. If everybody had a gravity knob on their
bike, we would all peg it to the minimum. That's a fact. Lighter bikes
are easier to carry. Some people prefer the feel of a lighter bike because
they can "throw it around" more. The thing that gets contentious is when
people make statements like "That particular bike weighs X, therefore it is
a heavy slow pig, and nobody can be happy riding that tank". Or when
people say "I have a 22-pound road bike and I love it but I can't keep up
with the club rides, so I'm looking for a 18-pound road bike because it'll
go 5MPH faster".

It's fine to want a light bike, or to be curious about what a bike weighs.
When I do a "light build" I weigh every part, because I want to know. I
know that whatever it weighs, it's going to go a teeny tiny bit faster than
if it were heavier. The exchange rate is 12 pounds per MPH. Some people
get mad that the exchange rate is 12 pounds per MPH. They want to claim
"no way. I upgraded my road bike and dropped the weight by 1.5 pounds and
now it's WAY faster". The pointless discussion argument is claiming light
weight --> much faster. Just leave it at "I want a lighter bike because I
feel like it". It's fine to decide "I don't want to buy a Roadini because I
don't feel like buying a >20 pound road bike".

Anyway, the reported weight of the Malocchio is very low. They claim frame
and fork combined are under 6 pounds. Even with a headset it may still be
a hair under 6 pounds. My Rivendell Legolas weighed 6.30 pounds
frame+fork+headset, and that's about as light a frame as Rivendell can
make. My Roadini weighed 7.75 pounds for frame + fork + headset.

If you feel like building up an 18-pound road bike, it'll be a lot easier
to accomplish on a Malocchio than a Leo Roadini. Aside from their weight,
I think they are very different bikes. Most people see "different" and
want to decide which is better. I see "different" and use it as an excuse
to buy one of each, and enjoy the differences :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:

> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed and
> multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I can't
> help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just wondering.

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[RBW] is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

2023-10-10 Thread eddietheflay

Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed and 
multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I can't 
help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just wondering.

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-10 Thread Brian Turner

I didn't read that as a slight. I think we can all agree that it's the norm 
for just about any sort of organized ride, that the overwhelming majority 
of riders are wearing some sort of "kit", and that usually entails brightly 
colored, often logo / graphic heavy, form-fitting attire. Says nothing 
about the riders themselves, but I think there's a certain amount of 
refreshing individuality that's lacking in situations like that. When you 
choose to dress differently, especially when you ride a classically styled 
steel, lugged bicycle, you tend to stand out from the crowd. Sometimes, you 
may even get comments that seem condescending or back-handed because you 
are obviously "different" or simply because the commenter lacks a certain 
amount of social tact. Surely, as Rivendell enthusiasts, we've all 
experienced this to some extent. This reality is also the basis for Leah's 
posts about participating in her group rides, or the recent thread about 
style on the bike. I doubt any of us would be here if there wasn't just a 
bit of a nonconformist, "outside the mainstream" spirit in us.


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[RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-10 Thread Mike Godwin

Supple Vitese 700x38 on Bob Jackson
Challenge Strada Bianca 700x32 on Roadeo (measure about 33.3)
Gravel King slicks 700x38 on BMC Monstercross

All nice smooth rolling, the feel light enough. Got my first flat on Bob 
last week from a goathead. I've not had issues with them, mount easily and 
lie in the bead bed perfectly.  Same can be said about the Challenge 
tires.  Gravel Kings are a bit tighter (on Pacenti Forza rims), I think 
they are the tubeless compatible model. No flats yet. 

BMC and BJ do commute and errand duties alternating weeks. 
Mike SLO CA

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 10:18:02 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jason, 
>
> I'm digging the 650B × 42 Pumpkin Ridge for crappy road/mellow dirt 
> riding, but they feel a smidge narrow and skittish on some of the gnarlier 
> terrain I've discovered since moving here. I have room for 48s, should I 
> dump cash - it's a LOT of cash - into Juniper Ridges? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 5:43:19 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I'm late to the party, and every angle has already been discussed at 
>> length, but I still want to shout out the RH knobbies. I'm very happy with 
>> them, but more notably for me is that I've recommended them to some riding 
>> buddies and then the good word spread like wildfire and now nearly all my 
>> riding buddies within that social circle, which ranges from longtime 
>> roadies to newbies to longtime mountain bikers, all absolutely swear by 
>> these tires.  None of us have experienced a tire that grips so well on a 
>> variety of trail surfaces, rolls fast and predictably on pavement, resists 
>> punctures, and feels great (better than other premium Panaracer brands) all 
>> at the same time. 
>>
>> My only non-gushing comments would be that they do have a buzz on 
>> pavement, though the tone is more pleasant than most knobbies, and they do 
>> tend to throw pea gravel through your fender if you run metal fenders, 
>> which is slightly annoying. Definitely pair these with PDW safety tabs if 
>> running metal fenders. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 08:26:17 UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want 
>>> to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit 
>>> absorbed with that thought.
>>>
>>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black 
>>> sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 
>>> 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the 
>>> larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I 
>>> find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 
>>> 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>>>
>>> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile 
>>> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range 
>>> to start.
>>>
>>> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who 
>>> runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and 
>>> absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build 
>>> and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance” 
>>> casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the 
>>> typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the 
>>> reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>>>
>>> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42) and 
>>> Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>>>
>>> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. 
>>> If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like 
>>> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>>>
>>> — Ted
>>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Swift Sonora Daypack, Swift Sitka Hip Pack, Fat Cat Bags Hip Pack

2023-10-10 Thread Dave Grossman

Selling a few items here.  All in excellent condition.

1.  Swift Sonora Daypack

XPAC Burgundy with Dyneema Packloth liner
13L
Made in Seattle
admin pocket, two bottle pockets, front zip pocket in body.  
No sternal strap

ASKING $100 shipped CONUS

2.  Swift Sitka Hip Pack
Two pockets, reflective strip, awesome orange color
Made in Seattle
Asking $40 shipped CONUS

3.  Fat Cat Hip Bag
Awesome bikepacking hip bag.
Fat Cat was a garage operation out of Chico, no longer making bags
See his work here:  https://www.instagram.com/fatcatbikebags/?img_index=
Awesome bag, holds two purist bottles, has two pockets.  Great accessory 
for bikepacking, day hikes, or city exploration
Grey and Blue
Made in Chico
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

2023-10-10 Thread Eric Floden

>
>
> It's been a few years since I was the grocery-getter in this household,
> but I used to use rear panniers and a very large backpack. The heavy stuff
> went in the panniers or low in the backpack.


I favour backpacks as a heavy guy (95 kg), as they enable me to use my legs
as shock absorbers. (I also used one for my work commute.)

I tried a front basket but did not like it for any kind of load.

It worked for me as I lived down a hill from my grocery stores and could
mostly coast home...

EricF

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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

2023-10-10 Thread Caroline Golum

I have a pretty simple setup: rear rack with a basket. Here's the 
configuration in action on my way to a DJ gig.

For bigger hauls I just throw panniers on either side of the rack
 [image: unnamed.jpg]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been very happy with my Burly Nomad 
> , and generally leave the hitch 
> mounted on the bike most of the time. I’m not certain why trailers are not 
> used by more people. I find it safer and easier to manage loads. Takes up a 
> bit more space where ever you may be locking up, but that’s a small price.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:45:49 AM UTC-5 MisterMo wrote:
>
>> ^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
>> front basket and rear rack with no panniers?
>>
>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Just got a B.O.B.!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse 
 cargo bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag 
 (open, below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker 
 Brandon of CycleCats. Fits A Lot.

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:

 so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
 brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
 getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
 is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
 the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
 them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
 fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
 are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
 the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
 buckets, but i kinda like the look!  

 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:

 A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps 
> and we're golden...

 Alex in SF
> <0-1.jpg>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 
> aelga...@castilleja.org wrote:
>
>> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school 
>> when I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced 
>> on 
>> my handlebars every morning. 😊
>>
>> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
>>> in 
>>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
>>> been 
>>> awesome!  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I know this probably has been discussed before.

 If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
 transporting groceries or other items?

 I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle 
 a couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes 
 I use 
 the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
 balancing the load.

 I think this can be a risky method.

 I need to find some decent grocery panniers.

 Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.

 Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .

 Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

2023-10-10 Thread Caroline Golum

I have a pretty simple setup: rear rack with a basket. Here's the 
configuration in action on my way to a DJ gig.

For bigger hauls I just throw panniers on either side of the rack 

[image: Image_20231010_111412.jpeg]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been very happy with my Burly Nomad 
> , and generally leave the hitch 
> mounted on the bike most of the time. I’m not certain why trailers are not 
> used by more people. I find it safer and easier to manage loads. Takes up a 
> bit more space where ever you may be locking up, but that’s a small price.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:45:49 AM UTC-5 MisterMo wrote:
>
>> ^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
>> front basket and rear rack with no panniers?
>>
>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Just got a B.O.B.!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse 
 cargo bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag 
 (open, below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker 
 Brandon of CycleCats. Fits A Lot.

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:

 so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
 brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
 getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
 is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
 the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
 them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
 fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
 are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
 the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
 buckets, but i kinda like the look!  

 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:

 A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps 
> and we're golden...

 Alex in SF
> <0-1.jpg>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 
> aelga...@castilleja.org wrote:
>
>> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school 
>> when I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced 
>> on 
>> my handlebars every morning. 😊
>>
>> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
>>> in 
>>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
>>> been 
>>> awesome!  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I know this probably has been discussed before.

 If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
 transporting groceries or other items?

 I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle 
 a couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes 
 I use 
 the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
 balancing the load.

 I think this can be a risky method.

 I need to find some decent grocery panniers.

 Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.

 Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .

 Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Are Paul brakes worth the money?

2023-10-10 Thread ascpgh

I replaced the OE Shimano (then) long reach calipers of my '02 Rambouillet 
to get some braking in the wet which those groupless Shimanos failed to 
provide, even with salmon pads. What I gained was braking with modulation 
and adjustability far beyond what I had before. What I also got from these 
was clearance for the right size fenders over 700x 28mm tires. The original 
calipers had decreasing clearance beneath them as the brakes closed on the 
rims. Just a better design as a caliper.

On top of all of that I had the opportunity to talk to Paul Price at his 
Philly Bike Expo booth and was able to share my satisfaction and hear about 
how much of that had been included in the design as they refined it. 
Meeting him and having that conversation was worth the difference between 
the Racers and any other option.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:57:51 AM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been on the lookout for a set of Paul Racer brakes for my rim brake 
> bike. I tend to find that cheaper U brakes have too much spring tension and 
> are not adjustable. My expectation is that Paul with be a very nicely made 
> brake with much more tweakability that I'll enjoy.  I probably should just 
> buy it new to support the semi-local business.
>
> -Ben
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:11:40 AM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have two bikes with Paul levers and love them. I upgraded my Black 
>> Mountain Cycles monstercross with Paul Neo Retro cantis and really like 
>> them and a significant improvement over the Tektros that I originally had 
>> on the bike.
>> Randy in WI
>>
>> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:30:48 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> This is really old thread but I’ll chime in. 
>>>
>>> I found an NOS Saluki recently with PAUL center pulls. The bike, once I 
>>> applied a couple of component swaps, is beautiful. Very…uh…svelte, for want 
>>> of a better word. But those PAUL brakes just did not fit…to my eye anyway. 
>>> Too much industrial muscle and kind of stiff. I found some good old 
>>> Weinmann centerpulls, long reach—they fit the the theme perfectly and stop 
>>> surprisingly well. I sold the PAULS and put a wad of 💰 in my pocket. YRMV, 
>>> but I’m happy. 
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:52 AM Bill Fulford  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 2007 
 Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to read 
 later 
 that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s  more than I wanted to spend. 
 So 
 before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m wondering how folks 
 feel about these brakes? I would be ordering the linear pull brake with 
 love levers. Are they worth it? 
>>>
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