Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

[Ryan]

the grips are smashing.but nitto needs to make a 26.8 lugged seatpost
for that lovely bike.just saying

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:57:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> [image: image6.jpeg]
>
>
> AND After…
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> [image: image2.jpeg][image: image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg][image: 
> image5.jpeg]
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover 
> thread.
>
>
> Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite 
> Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and 
> occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the 
> Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I 
> was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it 
> out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, 
> slapped them on and sent her a photo. 
>
> “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me 
> the unvarnished truth. 
>
> I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found 
> these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t 
> have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut 
> saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. 
> The bike looks positively *tonal.* The colors of the paint throw out so 
> many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in 
> the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The 
> stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual 
> interest at the handlebar area. 
>
> This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and 
> wholly appointed to its duty.
>
> Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to 
> match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…
>
> Attached in the next post are the before and afters.
> Leah
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[RBW] FS, Silver 2 shifters

[Richard Rose]

Hello Group. I just recently purchased these used units from this list. One 
of those rare instances when just the item you are looking for pops up when 
you are logged in. I was a little too quick with the "I'll take them!" 
Shifters only - no mounts. Sold to me as "in good working order" and I have 
no reason to believe otherwise. They look and feel good with all of the 
parts present. There is some shiny surface degradation - the logos are worn 
off - so not as pretty as new ones. I am selling as I no longer need them. 
I paid $45.00 including shipping & would like to get that back. link here 
to pics;
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FfQnEQijSHhkD4Kq6

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[RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover 
thread.

Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite 
Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and 
occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the 
Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I 
was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it 
out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, 
slapped them on and sent her a photo. 

“That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me 
the unvarnished truth. 

I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found 
these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t 
have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut 
saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. 
The bike looks positively *tonal.* The colors of the paint throw out so 
many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in 
the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The 
stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual 
interest at the handlebar area. 

This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly 
appointed to its duty.

Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to 
match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…

Attached in the next post are the before and afters.
Leah

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

[Bill Lindsay]

Weight Weenie update.  A frame set on my wish list for future fun builds 
included a classic Vitus 979.  

I had one as a teenager and did a pretty aggressive weight weenie build on 
it.  One of the weight weenie maneuvers was to run the smallest frame size 
I could conceivably ride, and that made the bike not very fun to ride, so I 
barely rode it.  The Vitus 979 size was a "54".  That was more like 55.5 cm 
center to top.  

A few years later while working at Missing Link we got a Vitus Carbone in 
on trade in.  I scooped up the bike, sold off most of the vintage parts on 
a new secondhand sales platform in 1999 called ebay.  I then did a weight 
weenie commuter build on it, and had it a hair under 14.5 pounds.  I 
commuted on that bike a lot and it was tons of fun.  I can't remember how 
exactly it left my possession.  

I just picked up a 979 in a more grown up "58" which should fit me like an 
adult bike should.  For fun I weighed it, and the frame is 1532g (3.38 lbs) 
and the fork is 531g (1.17 lbs).  That's 4.55 lbs frame + fork.  We'll see 
what kind of build I can pull together on this platform.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-7 Tim Tetrault wrote:

> I enjoy Bill's thoughts especially here; everyone is a "weight weenie" (or 
> should feel free to be) in their own way.
>
> I have a Sam H., it's on the heavy side, but I'd love to swap out for some 
> Paselas (vs. Marathons) and a lighter carry-along lock (I have an Abus 
> Bordo) just to see how the fun factor changes. 
>
> Tim
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:39:05 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tire size should be the determining factor. If you don't need anything 
>> more than 35mm on the rear the lighter bike is better. I'm a big fan of low 
>> BBs, and the 700c version of the Malocchio fits the bill, but I think I'd 
>> be unhappy about not being able to run 700x40mm Terra Speeds, so overall 
>> I'm happy I went with the Roadini.
>>
>> I'm also bothered by the non-matching front and rear brakes --- it's 
>> clear that they screwed up on the manufacturing on the Malocchio, which 
>> also means that I'm not so sure I'd trust them on the rest of the bike 
>> being to spec. Then again, the slipping seatpost on the Roadini bothers me 
>> too --- nobody's perfect.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:
>>
>>> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed 
>>> and multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I 
>>> can't help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just 
>>> wondering.
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: 51cm Orange Sam Hillborne

[Nathan Mattia]

Hello Good Rivendellers.
The day has come and the need has arisen for me to sell my beloved Samwise 
Hillborne.

Here's the Flickr Link for current Pics.
https://flic.kr/ps/3Mvw47

He's a Beauty of a Bike, and everything that was advertised.
Selling for $2, 100. plus Bikeflights for shipping, which has amounted to 
about $150 in the past when handled by my LBS.

Here are some specs of the build

-51cm frame, perfect for my 80 pbh.  This version of the Sam was made circa 
2016-2017.
-Nitto Front Rack-either Marks or similar.
-Wald 37 basket
-Dynamo hub up front, laced to 650b Wheels.
-Arya Velocity wheels built by my LBS, Cursed Bikes in University City, MO
-Busch and Mueller IQ-X front headlamp 
-Monarch pedals
-tektro R559 Caliper breaks
-Tires are Fatty Rumpkin Green 41s
-Brooks B-67 Springs Saddle in Honey Brown
-Standard Rib Silver 2-ring Cranks
-Albatross Bars
-Shimano Claris Front Derailleur
-Shimano Deore XT Rear Derailleur
-Busch and Mueller IQ-X front headlamp 

A bit of beusage from local rides.  Small scratches.  No dents.
Less than 500 miles on the entire setup.

Please PM me for inquiries, and THANKS!!

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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

[Bill Lindsay]

I've got two copies of the Deore XT M786, which should be perfecto for a 
1x10 11-36 or an 11-42.  I probably have an 11-36 10 speed cassette also, 
if you need it.  Let me know.  I'm going to be away from my parts stash 
Thursday through Monday.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 12:38:15 PM UTC-7 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Currently running a 1x10 right now: 46T crank in the front with the 
> aforementioned 11-28T in the rear, and non-indexed shifting friction 
> shifting on the bar end. I'm looking at a 10 or 11 spd cassette in the 
> 11-36T or 44T range. Trying to avoid redoing the whole drivetrain with a 
> 2x9 or 2x10 setup, but not entirely opposed to it.  
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 11:06:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Are you running friction shifting, and how big of a cassette will you go? 
>> Those will help determine what derailer you can run. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, Caroline Golum  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey RBOBs,
>>>
>>> The time has finally come for a new rear derailleur! And this time I’d 
>>> like to expand my gear ratio, ideally without having to replace my single 
>>> crank with a double. My new favorite mechanic (shoutout to Damon at Nomad 
>>> Cycles) suggested I switch to the Deore XT (I’m running a 105 with 11-28T 
>>> right now)
>>>
>>> Now here’s my question: given the overall decline in quality 
>>> for.,…..everything on planet earth…….should I get a new rear derailleur or 
>>> hunt around on here/EBay for something a little older (not by much, c. 2009 
>>> or so).
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

[Caroline Golum]

Currently running a 1x10 right now: 46T crank in the front with the 
aforementioned 11-28T in the rear, and non-indexed shifting friction 
shifting on the bar end. I'm looking at a 10 or 11 spd cassette in the 
11-36T or 44T range. Trying to avoid redoing the whole drivetrain with a 
2x9 or 2x10 setup, but not entirely opposed to it.  

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 11:06:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> Are you running friction shifting, and how big of a cassette will you go? 
> Those will help determine what derailer you can run. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, Caroline Golum  
> wrote:
>
>> Hey RBOBs,
>>
>> The time has finally come for a new rear derailleur! And this time I’d 
>> like to expand my gear ratio, ideally without having to replace my single 
>> crank with a double. My new favorite mechanic (shoutout to Damon at Nomad 
>> Cycles) suggested I switch to the Deore XT (I’m running a 105 with 11-28T 
>> right now)
>>
>> Now here’s my question: given the overall decline in quality 
>> for.,…..everything on planet earth…….should I get a new rear derailleur or 
>> hunt around on here/EBay for something a little older (not by much, c. 2009 
>> or so).
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Sonora Daypack, Swift Sitka Hip Pack, Fat Cat Bags Hip Pack

[Brian Forsee]

I am so bummed I missed out on that Fat Cat bag. I've got the one without 
the water bottle spots I've been using daily for years. I'm sure its new 
owner will be very happy!

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:

> Fat Cat Bag is sold
>
> Swift Daypack now $90 shipped
> Swift Sitka Hip Pack now $35 shipped
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:33:58 AM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:
>
>> Selling a few items here.  All in excellent condition.
>>
>> 1.  Swift Sonora Daypack
>>
>> XPAC Burgundy with Dyneema Packloth liner
>> 13L
>> Made in Seattle
>> admin pocket, two bottle pockets, front zip pocket in body.  
>> No sternal strap
>>
>> ASKING $100 shipped CONUS
>>
>> 2.  Swift Sitka Hip Pack
>> Two pockets, reflective strip, awesome orange color
>> Made in Seattle
>> Asking $40 shipped CONUS
>>
>> 3.  Fat Cat Hip Bag
>> Awesome bikepacking hip bag.
>> Fat Cat was a garage operation out of Chico, no longer making bags
>> See his work here:  https://www.instagram.com/fatcatbikebags/?img_index=
>> Awesome bag, holds two purist bottles, has two pockets.  Great accessory 
>> for bikepacking, day hikes, or city exploration
>> Grey and Blue
>> Made in Chico
>> Asking $80 shipped CONUS
>>
>> Pics Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iWr5wZVV97mxduEN8
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Sonora Daypack, Swift Sitka Hip Pack, Fat Cat Bags Hip Pack

[Dave Grossman]

Fat Cat Bag is sold

Swift Daypack now $90 shipped
Swift Sitka Hip Pack now $35 shipped

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:33:58 AM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:

> Selling a few items here.  All in excellent condition.
>
> 1.  Swift Sonora Daypack
>
> XPAC Burgundy with Dyneema Packloth liner
> 13L
> Made in Seattle
> admin pocket, two bottle pockets, front zip pocket in body.  
> No sternal strap
>
> ASKING $100 shipped CONUS
>
> 2.  Swift Sitka Hip Pack
> Two pockets, reflective strip, awesome orange color
> Made in Seattle
> Asking $40 shipped CONUS
>
> 3.  Fat Cat Hip Bag
> Awesome bikepacking hip bag.
> Fat Cat was a garage operation out of Chico, no longer making bags
> See his work here:  https://www.instagram.com/fatcatbikebags/?img_index=
> Awesome bag, holds two purist bottles, has two pockets.  Great accessory 
> for bikepacking, day hikes, or city exploration
> Grey and Blue
> Made in Chico
> Asking $80 shipped CONUS
>
> Pics Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iWr5wZVV97mxduEN8
>

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[RBW] Re: is it blasphemous to ask how you think a Roadini would compare to a Crust Malocchio?

[Tim Tetrault]

I enjoy Bill's thoughts especially here; everyone is a "weight weenie" (or 
should feel free to be) in their own way.

I have a Sam H., it's on the heavy side, but I'd love to swap out for some 
Paselas (vs. Marathons) and a lighter carry-along lock (I have an Abus 
Bordo) just to see how the fun factor changes. 

Tim

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:39:05 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tire size should be the determining factor. If you don't need anything 
> more than 35mm on the rear the lighter bike is better. I'm a big fan of low 
> BBs, and the 700c version of the Malocchio fits the bill, but I think I'd 
> be unhappy about not being able to run 700x40mm Terra Speeds, so overall 
> I'm happy I went with the Roadini.
>
> I'm also bothered by the non-matching front and rear brakes --- it's clear 
> that they screwed up on the manufacturing on the Malocchio, which also 
> means that I'm not so sure I'd trust them on the rest of the bike being to 
> spec. Then again, the slipping seatpost on the Roadini bothers me too --- 
> nobody's perfect.
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:27:08 PM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:
>
>> Seems the Crust would be more road racy and the Riv more long, relaxed 
>> and multi purpose. I know we're not supposed to talk about weight but I 
>> can't help wondering if there's much difference one vs the other. Just 
>> wondering.
>
>

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[RBW] Swift Zeitgeist and Holdfast Frame Bags

[Drew Fitchette]

Hey All,

Continuing to do some Spring Cleaning and wanted to offer up some like new 
Swift bags that only were on my Atlantis for a couple rides. These are in 
great shape and I want them gone, hence the low prices.

Black Zeitgeist - $135 + shipping

Black Holdfast Frame Bag Lg - $80 plus shipping

Happy to send photos to anyone over PM who's interested!

- Drew

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[RBW] Why is he called tapebubba?

[Bill Lindsay]

On google groups, I have a tapebubba email.  The reason for that is one of 
my hobbies.  I make wallets out of tape.  Back when my kids were small I 
had an etsy store, and I've sold ~1000 tape wallets.  I do a lot less 
taping now than I used to, but I still have a massive tape inventory, and 
I'm on a mission to compress that inventory from 3 huge storage boxes down 
to 2 huge storage boxes.  So, I'm taping...

Up for offer is a batch of my most stripped down minimalist wallet.  I call 
it the Brevet Wallet.  It features a drivers license window, one additional 
internal pocket and one external pocket.  The idea is you'll use your 
Brevet wallet when all you need to carry is your drivers license, one 
ATM/credit card, and a folded up $20 bill.  It makes a perfect "clubbing 
wallet" as well.  

The differentiator between Tapebubba wallets and "duct tape wallets" is 
that I optimize 5 different kinds of tape for various construction 
elements.  The not-so-secret weapon is gaffer tape, which is far better 
than duct tape in abrasion resistance and reluctance to get sticky at the 
edges.  

Despite my use of premium tape, the Brevet Wallet lasts longest when not 
overstuffed, and it's better not to run it in your hip pocket and sit on it 
all day every day.  It's best for a handlebar bag, a jersey pocket or a 
front pocket.  

Here's a Flickr link:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53250901126/in/album-72177720311848850/
That show my current inventory of 10 Brevet wallets.  They are $10 each, 
shipped.  Let me know if you want one.  

Bill Lindsay
aka Tapebubba
El Cerrito, CA 

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Re: [RBW] For sale: Michelin shirts and Suntour hats

[Eric Marth]

If you missed out I just found two more Large tees, send me a message for 
direct sale. Printed in Richmond, Virginia on Bayside tees made in the USA. 

They're $35 shipped CONUS. Thanks!

[image: Michelin 01.jpg]

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:23:10 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Thanks Keith :) 
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> These are awesome Eric!
>> Nice work! 
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all — I made a batch of Michelin shirts based on a poster from 1905. 
>> They're printed on Bayside tees made in the USA and printed in Richmond, 
>> Virginia by Triple Stamp Press. 
>>
>> Available here: https://genericindustries.bigcartel.com/
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I also got some more Suntour hats made, this time using an earlier 
>> version of the Suntour logo. Embroidered on Adams LP101 ivory blanks by 
>> Crewel & Unusual in Richmond, Virginia. 
>>
>> Available here: https://genericindustries.bigcartel.com/
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Rather than doing direct sales please order thru the Big Cartel link. 
>> Managing all the email sales is a miniature nightmare! If you're 
>> international and see crazy shipping fees please reach out. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>> Eric 
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

[Eric Daume]

Are you running friction shifting, and how big of a cassette will you go?
Those will help determine what derailer you can run.

Eric

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, Caroline Golum 
wrote:

> Hey RBOBs,
>
> The time has finally come for a new rear derailleur! And this time I’d
> like to expand my gear ratio, ideally without having to replace my single
> crank with a double. My new favorite mechanic (shoutout to Damon at Nomad
> Cycles) suggested I switch to the Deore XT (I’m running a 105 with 11-28T
> right now)
>
> Now here’s my question: given the overall decline in quality
> for.,…..everything on planet earth…….should I get a new rear derailleur or
> hunt around on here/EBay for something a little older (not by much, c. 2009
> or so).
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[RBW] Re: WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

[aeroperf]

Why not both?  You can still get a Shimano M591 new, though it is an older 
design, that works well with a 34-tooth cassette.  This is a solid, 
reliable design that Rivendell used to ship on their builds.  It is Deore, 
but not XT.  
A Deore XT equivalent like the M772 (also older design) is rated for 43 
teeth on the cassette, but I found mine a little more fiddly to set up than 
the M591.
Those are both 9-speed.  You can still get them both new.  I’d say go the 
route of a new derailleur of an older (proven) design.

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

[Will Boericke]

Older is cheaper, but you risk worn-out in that move.  I run an older (8sp 
era) XT on a silly double setup I have and it has trouble getting down to 
the small cog on the cassette all the time.  You don't say how many speeds 
you are working with but I assume 10 or fewer.  I'd get a newer 9sp era XT.

Will



On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:23:34 AM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Hey RBOBs,
>
> The time has finally come for a new rear derailleur! And this time I’d 
> like to expand my gear ratio, ideally without having to replace my single 
> crank with a double. My new favorite mechanic (shoutout to Damon at Nomad 
> Cycles) suggested I switch to the Deore XT (I’m running a 105 with 11-28T 
> right now)
>
> Now here’s my question: given the overall decline in quality 
> for.,…..everything on planet earth…….should I get a new rear derailleur or 
> hunt around on here/EBay for something a little older (not by much, c. 2009 
> or so).
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Sand Lot Stubby short billed baseball cap

[Drew Fitchette]

Spoken for!

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:18:50 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> will send pm dibs pls 
>
> -stephen
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 5:19:11 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Y'all,
>>
>> I got one of the white short billed baseball caps before they sold out, 
>> worn it maybe a total of 15 minutes, and just don't think I've got the head 
>> shape for it. Would love it to go to someone who missed out!
>>
>> Happy to send photos to verify the condition.
>>
>> Not trying to make any cash on scarcity, but would love to make my $35 
>> back + shipping. 
>>
>> First to hit DM me can claim it!
>>
>> - Drew
>>
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Re: [RBW] Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Sarah Carlson]

I held my breath when I got the Paul Motolites for my Atlantis and I'm glad 
I did every time I ride it. I decided to save money by not getting the 
levers and I regret that. "Saving money" now means that I will upgrade 
my levers and pay for more labor putting them in (I am no bike mechanic). I 
have the Paul levers on my other bike and is just so much more satisfying 
in feel. 

Can I chime in that a gift certificate is a perfect time to splurge on 
something you wouldn't normally do for yourself? I bet whoever gifted you 
that would love to see you with a really great set of beautiful functional 
brakes.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 6:20:06 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:

> I replaced the OE Shimano (then) long reach calipers of my '02 Rambouillet 
> to get some braking in the wet which those groupless Shimanos failed to 
> provide, even with salmon pads. What I gained was braking with modulation 
> and adjustability far beyond what I had before. What I also got from these 
> was clearance for the right size fenders over 700x 28mm tires. The original 
> calipers had decreasing clearance beneath them as the brakes closed on the 
> rims. Just a better design as a caliper.
>
> On top of all of that I had the opportunity to talk to Paul Price at his 
> Philly Bike Expo booth and was able to share my satisfaction and hear about 
> how much of that had been included in the design as they refined it. 
> Meeting him and having that conversation was worth the difference between 
> the Racers and any other option.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:57:51 AM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been on the lookout for a set of Paul Racer brakes for my rim brake 
>> bike. I tend to find that cheaper U brakes have too much spring tension and 
>> are not adjustable. My expectation is that Paul with be a very nicely made 
>> brake with much more tweakability that I'll enjoy.  I probably should just 
>> buy it new to support the semi-local business.
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 3:11:40 AM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have two bikes with Paul levers and love them. I upgraded my Black 
>>> Mountain Cycles monstercross with Paul Neo Retro cantis and really like 
>>> them and a significant improvement over the Tektros that I originally had 
>>> on the bike.
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 9:30:48 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 This is really old thread but I’ll chime in. 

 I found an NOS Saluki recently with PAUL center pulls. The bike, once I 
 applied a couple of component swaps, is beautiful. Very…uh…svelte, for 
 want 
 of a better word. But those PAUL brakes just did not fit…to my eye anyway. 
 Too much industrial muscle and kind of stiff. I found some good old 
 Weinmann centerpulls, long reach—they fit the the theme perfectly and stop 
 surprisingly well. I sold the PAULS and put a wad of  in my pocket. YRMV, 
 but I’m happy. 

 Jock

 On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:52 AM Bill Fulford  
 wrote:

> I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 
> 2007 Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to 
> read 
> later that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s  more than I wanted to 
> spend. So before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m 
> wondering 
> how folks feel about these brakes? I would be ordering the linear pull 
> brake with love levers. Are they worth it? 

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[RBW] WTB/ISO New or Used Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur

[Caroline Golum]

Hey RBOBs,

The time has finally come for a new rear derailleur! And this time I’d like 
to expand my gear ratio, ideally without having to replace my single crank 
with a double. My new favorite mechanic (shoutout to Damon at Nomad Cycles) 
suggested I switch to the Deore XT (I’m running a 105 with 11-28T right now)

Now here’s my question: given the overall decline in quality 
for.,…..everything on planet earth…….should I get a new rear derailleur or 
hunt around on here/EBay for something a little older (not by much, c. 2009 
or so).

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[RBW] UPDATE - FS: Various vintage componentry

[Kim H.]

 Here is what is left:
I am open to your offers to all of the following: 

1.One set of used vintage white Bluemel 700C f/r fenders with an extra 
NOS Bluemel 700C white rear fender with twelve used Bluemel fender struts 
and hardware and small reflector - $80.00, plus shipping.

2.   One pair of NOS Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake levers with new 
aftermarket gum hoods. No logos on the gum hoods. - $100.00, plus shipping.

3.   Vintage used 1976 orange Eclipse Professional handlebar bag with a 
rare Eclipse “Seat-Post Thing” made of cast aluminum.  I recently machine 
washed the bag after taking out the Mylar support sleeve. I am unable to 
put it back. Maybe you can?  The bag has some wear spots and some threading 
separation. Otherwise, it is very functional. I do not have the map case. 
The original stabilizing bungees lost their elasticity over the years, thus 
I will include two small newer black bungees. I would like to sell the bag, 
bracket and the “Seat-Post Thing” altogether for $75.00, plus shipping.

4. One NOS Wolber 700c 36-hole M58 clincher rim ( Outside: 22.2mm/inside: 
16.9mm)and one used Super Champion 700c 36-hole clincher rim(outside: 
21.8mm/inside: 16.9mm in good condition with side wall wear. There is no 
other label indicating that the rim is further identified as being that a 
"GENTLEMAN" rim. $50.00 for one rim, plus shipping or both for $75.00, plus 
shipping.

5. Two used Suntour double down tube cable stops in good condition - $15.00 
for the two or $10.00/each, free shipping.

Pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/hbT3xQwjhvAodCAk9

I accept Paypal only. Friends and family preferred. Exact shipping costs 
will be determined at the time of shipping through my local post office.

Any questions or interests feel free to email me.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel

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[RBW] FS: ORTLIEB Messanger Bag

[Kim H.]

 I have an ORTLIEB messanger waterproof bag. My daughter won it in a 
bicycle commuter contest decades ago. It is brand new and never used. 
Between my daughter and I, we have no need for it. 

The measurements :
Closed from top to bottom - 14"
Width of the bag - 19"
Bottom width of the bag - 6 3/8"
Bottom length of the bag - 14"
With the front flap open - top to bottom - 23 1/2"

Pictures are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/DiqxeL8efC9hnS8Z7

$85.00, shipped.

Kim Hetzel. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: retrofitting for Rohloff speedhub

[Gerard McMahon]

Thanks, Willet, very helpful. Expense is an issue for sure. And weight!JerryGerard McMahongmcmaho...@gmail.com919-604-2572Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2023, at 22:31, WilletM  wrote:I have two Rohloff-equipped bikes (a chain-drive titanium Salsa Fargo and a belt-drive Surly Krampus) and two Riv's (a Bombadil and a Protovelo/Bombadil).  If I had it all to do over again, I would probably still go with Rohloff's on the non-Riv bikes and then Phil hubs or something similar on the Riv's.  I ride the Krampus all winter on heavily sanded and mag chloride-slathered roads high up in Colorado, and the belt and the hub (and the rest of the bike, really) are pretty well trashed by springtime and in need of serious scrubbing and scheduled maintenance.  That said, I've had no un-scheduled maintenance or repairs needed in the 6-8 years that I've had the two Rohloff's, with the exception of replacing the seals on the Fargo when the hub oil started to seep out a little too much and make the disc rotor and other things back there lightly coated with oil.The main reasons why I would never consider retrofitting either of the Riv's is WEIGHT (they are friggin' boat anchor-ly), aesthetics (they kind of look like hub-motored e-bikes), and the exceptional high cost of obtaining the parts and doing the frame mods.  Best of luck to you in whichever direction you decide to go.Willet M.Carbondale, COOn Monday, October 9, 2023 at 5:29:14 PM UTC-6 WETH wrote:I commute year round, including the winter (Mid-Atlantic winters are not like the Midwest, but we do get freezing rain and occasional snow.).  I went the custom route but asked my frame builder to make the bike ride similarly to my Riv Hunqapillar which is one of the later versions and has longer stays.  I went with a Pinion gearbox, carbon belt drive, and hydraulic disc brakes.  I used Bantam https://www.bantambicycles.com/Bob was great to deal with and added many nice touches to the build.  The only maintenance I have done in a bit over two years and 8,000 miles is to replace the rear tire and change the oil in the gearbox (2x-once per year).  Erl HoustonKensington, MDOn Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:53:34 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:I recall reading this article about it. https://www.cyclemonkey.com/blog/classic-commuter-rohloff-rivendellI’ve been curious myself. I commute on a rohloff surly ogre and love it for a Midwest-winter-proof commuter, but have often considered commuting on a Clem or the like as I prefer the ride feel of my rivs. I was thinking of starting a thread dedicated to daily or semi-regular Rivendell commuters to see what folks are doing out there. On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:21 PM UTC-4 Gerard McMahon wrote:Friends, I'm wondering if anyone has tried retrofitting their Rivendell to use a Rohloff hub with a carbon belt drive instead of a chain. Am at the exploration stage.  TIA for any thoughts about this, especially if you've actually tried it out!  Jerry McMahon



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