[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Joe Bernard]

Size and weight limit restrictions: 50 lbs. and 70" x 41" x 8.5". Your bike 
will be approximately 4-5 inches too long for Amtrak. 

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:53:28 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I ordered a 55 Platy in the last presale, was thinking of taking amtrak to 
> pick it up in person and bring it with me back, Oakland to LA. Can someone 
> confirm whether or not the bike will be accepted on the train without 
> boxing it up? Please and thank you. Good luck with your Platycisions Leah! 
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:13:48 AM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> I am with George. Once you have more than a certain number of bikes (a 
>> number you are certain to have opinions about), one of them should be a 
>> folder!
>> Great for train travel.
>> Great for guests (they fit all kinds of people).
>> Great for conversation starter.
>> Can be stored in a closet, attic, under the stairs, etc...
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:16:07 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would 
>>> not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
>>> equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
>>> with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
>>> they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
>>> you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
>>> bikes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
 not. I’ve done crazier things. 

 Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH 
 range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t 
 have 
 them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for 
 buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my 
 bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she 
 can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets 
 some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride 
 that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.

 Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. 
 Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a 
 real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a 
 girl can have.
 Leah

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Armand Kizirian]

I ordered a 55 Platy in the last presale, was thinking of taking amtrak to 
pick it up in person and bring it with me back, Oakland to LA. Can someone 
confirm whether or not the bike will be accepted on the train without 
boxing it up? Please and thank you. Good luck with your Platycisions Leah! 

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:13:48 AM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:

> I am with George. Once you have more than a certain number of bikes (a 
> number you are certain to have opinions about), one of them should be a 
> folder!
> Great for train travel.
> Great for guests (they fit all kinds of people).
> Great for conversation starter.
> Can be stored in a closet, attic, under the stairs, etc...
>
> Good luck!
>
> Edwin
>
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:16:07 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:
>
>> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would 
>> not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
>> equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
>> with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
>> they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
>> you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
>> bikes.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>>
>>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>>> can have.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Lime Olive 50 cm Platypus frame

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

And no, I’m not selling my 55 Platys. I just need more sizes! And colors. 
Whatever. Don’t judge.

Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus ride shaming

[Ryan Frahm]

Looks great! Those bars look like the perfect mix of comfort while still 
being more aggressive than the Bosco. Very nice!

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:54:48 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wonderful pictures, Richard !
> The first one is my favorite.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 3:33:32 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Another.
>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Edwin W  wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>>
>> Great overhead shot of the bars. Can you post some more of the bike? I'd 
>> love to see how the cockpit works with the rest of the bike...
>>
>> Learning from others,
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:17:49 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Not really shamed but while having a really good ride at one of my 
>>> favorite trails I passed a couple of riders on their traditional mountain 
>>> bikes. They caught up to me in the parking lot when my bike was already 
>>> loaded into the car. They asked " was that you that passed us on a cruiser 
>>> bike?" And, "what kind of bike was that, a Breezer? I answered it was a 
>>> Rivendell. I do not think they had heard of that name. It was all good fun 
>>> and I took it as a compliment. I am in love with my new cockpit on this 
>>> bike.
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/VMbmV6jYNpQvtkNKA
>>>
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[RBW] FS: Arkel TailRider Trunk Bag Black

[eddietheflay]

This is fine rear rack-mounted bag with lots o room and pockets and an 
included rain cover. Used just a few times and in fine condition.

Like this:
https://www.modernbike.com/arkel-tai...runk-bag-black 


Review:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Arke...DQNVX1vSs,st:0 


$100 net to me gets it shipped to you.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus ride shaming

[Kim H.]

Wonderful pictures, Richard !
The first one is my favorite.

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 3:33:32 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another.
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 13, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Edwin W  wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
>
> Great overhead shot of the bars. Can you post some more of the bike? I'd 
> love to see how the cockpit works with the rest of the bike...
>
> Learning from others,
>
> Edwin
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:17:49 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Not really shamed but while having a really good ride at one of my 
>> favorite trails I passed a couple of riders on their traditional mountain 
>> bikes. They caught up to me in the parking lot when my bike was already 
>> loaded into the car. They asked " was that you that passed us on a cruiser 
>> bike?" And, "what kind of bike was that, a Breezer? I answered it was a 
>> Rivendell. I do not think they had heard of that name. It was all good fun 
>> and I took it as a compliment. I am in love with my new cockpit on this 
>> bike.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/VMbmV6jYNpQvtkNKA
>>
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[RBW] FS Book Bike Hatchet hat

[Beth Hamon]

RBW Bookk Bike Hatchet ball hat in EUC.

A short-lived venture that Bay Area locals seemed to enjoy.

Fits most heads.

$45 includes USPS postage in USA.

Photos:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/53265044152/in/dateposted-public/


https://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/53265934936/in/dateposted-public/


Beth Hamon in Portland OR

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[RBW] FS: Ultegra triple group

[dylan green]

Selling a partial ultegra group. 

Triple cranks - 175 in length
Long cage RD - one wheel needs to be replaced
Clamp on FD
Including the shifters, though the rear needs some work. 

$150 after fees includes shipping

A few other things for sale in the album, just not riv adjacent - but feel 
free
to reach out off the board if something catches your eye. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/EBjbevFYp9rmpHHu8

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[James]

I know that bike!  Well loved and well riden with a great owner

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> I think I recognize that bike. Orange Cheviot in Brooklyn? See him around 
> from time to time. 
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:10:33 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_6778_Original.jpeg]Here’s a candidate for beausage of the 
>> month…
>> Not for sale as far as I know, so the wrong post, but with all the talk 
>> of tough lockups, this one stood out to me.
>> -Kai
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:
>>
>>> "Who are you going to believe?? Me, or your own eyes??"  -Groucho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:01, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah it's the seller description that annoys me, I don't appreciate 
 being told my eyes don't see what I'm clearly seeing. This happens a lot 
 on 
 Craigslist. 



 On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". 
> YMMV I guess.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> 52cm CLEM "L"
>>
>> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with 
>> so many scratches. YIKES !
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
 Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 
 150 bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!


 https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:

> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 
> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>>
>> Clem H
>> 52cm
>> $741
>> New Jersey
>> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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[RBW] Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

[Tom Goodmann]

Riv shipment just delivered, including the new seat, which I mounted right 
away for a neighborhood spin.  I find it immediately comfortable and am 
eager to try it on a longer ride; first impressions are very positive.  
Have any of you ridden it yet?

Now for that new derailer/derailleur!

Tom
Miami, FL, where it is currently 82ºF

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

I think I recognize that bike. Orange Cheviot in Brooklyn? See him around 
from time to time. 

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:10:33 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> [image: IMG_6778_Original.jpeg]Here’s a candidate for beausage of the 
> month…
> Not for sale as far as I know, so the wrong post, but with all the talk of 
> tough lockups, this one stood out to me.
> -Kai
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:
>
>> "Who are you going to believe?? Me, or your own eyes??"  -Groucho
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:01, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah it's the seller description that annoys me, I don't appreciate 
>>> being told my eyes don't see what I'm clearly seeing. This happens a lot on 
>>> Craigslist. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>
 That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". 
 YMMV I guess.

 Best,
 Rich in ATL

 On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:

> 52cm CLEM "L"
>
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with 
> so many scratches. YIKES !
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 
>>> 150 bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>>
 could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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[RBW] Long chainstay content: Esker Hayduke LVS review at The Radavist

[Jeremy Till]

I thought some on here might be interested in The Radavist's review of the 
Esker Hayduke LVS 
, which 
they posted last week. The Hayduke LVS is a new titanium hardtail mountain 
bike with long (600mm) chainstays. 

I though it would be of interest for a number of reasons: 

   1. Another company (aside from Rivendell and Jeff Jones) thinks long 
   chainstays are a good enough idea to build a production model around them.
   2. The reviewer, John Watson (owner of the Radavist), gives Grant his 
   due credit for some of the thinking behind long chainstays, although it's 
   unclear to me if Esker themselves credit him for influencing the design. 
   3. The review is favorable (to put it mildly) and everything John says 
   about riding the Hayduke LVS reflects my feelings about riding my 59cm Clem 
   H (with 56cm chainstays) off-road. I don't do it much anymore, but back 
   before I had a kid I did a fair amount of mountain biking on it and I loved 
   the sure-footed feeling on climbs and the long wheelbase stability on the 
   descents, compared to other hardtails and full-suspension bikes I had 
   ridden with more "standard" MTB geometry (read: short chainstays). In fact, 
   I would argue that the fact that the Esker is completely otherwise a 
   standard hardtail with suspension fork, disc brakes, and dropper seatpost 
   points to the fundamental soundness of the long-chainstay design, given 
   that it seems to work even if you don't buy into all of Grant's 
   particularities when it comes to component selection.  

I hope others enjoy reading it too! The accompanying video of the 
bikepacking trip they took is also fun.  

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

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[RBW] Just mounted the new Riv seat+++

[Tom Goodmann]

Riv shipment just delivered, including the new seat, which I mounted right 
away for a neighborhood spin.  I find it immediately comfortable and am 
eager to try it on a longer ride; first impressions are very positive.  

Now for that new derailer/derailleur!

Tom
Miami, FL, where it is currently 82ºF

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Roadini 57cm

[vernon brooks]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-rivendell-roadini-54cm/7686933546.html
 54cm complete in Napa!

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:44 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Neale,
> There is a whole bike in Ellensburg, WA, but it is a 50cm.
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7676911394.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:33:34 PM UTC-8 Neale S. wrote:
>
>> Anyone sitting on a complete or a frameset?
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Roadini 57cm

[Kim H.]

@Neale,
There is a whole bike in Ellensburg, WA, but it is a 50cm.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7676911394.html

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:33:34 PM UTC-8 Neale S. wrote:

> Anyone sitting on a complete or a frameset?

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[RBW] WTB: Roadini 57cm

[Neale S.]

Anyone sitting on a complete or a frameset?

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[RBW] Re: Gus ride shaming

[Edwin W]

Richard,

Great overhead shot of the bars. Can you post some more of the bike? I'd 
love to see how the cockpit works with the rest of the bike...

Learning from others,

Edwin

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:17:49 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not really shamed but while having a really good ride at one of my 
> favorite trails I passed a couple of riders on their traditional mountain 
> bikes. They caught up to me in the parking lot when my bike was already 
> loaded into the car. They asked " was that you that passed us on a cruiser 
> bike?" And, "what kind of bike was that, a Breezer? I answered it was a 
> Rivendell. I do not think they had heard of that name. It was all good fun 
> and I took it as a compliment. I am in love with my new cockpit on this 
> bike.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/VMbmV6jYNpQvtkNKA
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[RBW] Very long shot WTB: Sackville label

[dylan green]

Some years back my Sackville label was removed from my shopsack (truly 
unsure why?) 
I'm really wanting to return the bag back to it's original glory and I'd 
love to find
a replacement label - maybe you don't care about such things and would 
offer yours up? 

Worth mentioning, I have one of the older bags, pre 'Hecho in Connecticut" 
and would
like to find one of the same vintage 'Rivendell Bicycle Works Made in the 
USA'

Yeah, this is niche - but it's also the riv owners bunch so

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Eric Floden]

"Who are you going to believe?? Me, or your own eyes??"  -Groucho



On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:01, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Yeah it's the seller description that annoys me, I don't appreciate being
> told my eyes don't see what I'm clearly seeing. This happens a lot on
> Craigslist.
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". YMMV
>> I guess.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> 52cm CLEM "L"
>>>
>>> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so
>>> many scratches. YIKES !
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o)

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:

> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150
> bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>
>> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>>>
>>> Clem H
>>> 52cm
>>> $741
>>> New Jersey
>>> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah it's the seller description that annoys me, I don't appreciate being 
told my eyes don't see what I'm clearly seeing. This happens a lot on 
Craigslist. 



On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". YMMV 
> I guess.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> 52cm CLEM "L"
>>
>> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
>> many scratches. YIKES !
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
 Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 
 bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!


 https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html

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> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>>
>> Clem H
>> 52cm
>> $741
>> New Jersey
>> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[R Shannon]

That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". YMMV I
guess.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:

> 52cm CLEM "L"
>
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so
> many scratches. YIKES !
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o)
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150
>>> bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>>
 could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller:
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4

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> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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Re: [RBW] Options for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to thumbies?

[Bill Lindsay]

That's an awesome find.  The hinged ones Riv sells are "easier" to install 
for folks who already have their grips installed and can't/don't want to 
remove them, but for a fresh flat bar build, those Microshifts are awesome. 
 

The other thing about the Riv ones is that they will fit 26.0mm which can 
be super slick if you want to put it on the tops of your Noodle bars.  For 
those using them as 22.2mm shifters, that may be a downgrade, because you 
have to use shims, and you'll probably be annoyed if you lose one.  

Anyway, a set of each in the shifter box would be a strong nice-to-have.  

BL in EC

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:15:12 AM UTC-8 reca...@gmail.com wrote:

> I use the MicroShift road thumb shifter mounts with the silver shifters. 
>
> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=106560
>
> They are very nicely made, work great, and the pair comes in at less than 
> $40. 
>
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 7:46:05 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> If you are eager to acquire the X and O thumbie mounts that Rivendell 
>> sells and want to pay less than 45 dollars each for them, maybe just say 
>> how much you want to spend, and maybe somebody who has a set will sell them 
>> to you.  Or maybe you have something that retails for $90 that you no 
>> longer want and you could trade?  There are ways to shake things loose in 
>> this community.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:53:51 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, the Riv ones I knew about. 90 bucks just to mount shifters is 
>>> really expensive, though. I was hoping there was another option LOL. Maybe 
>>> some will come up used. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
 As near as I know the only game in town are the mounts sold by Riv for 
 that exact purpose, which you must be familiar with but I’ll link here 
 anyhow: https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk. Paul used 
 to sell adapters for their Thumbie mounts, but they are neither 1. cheap 
 nor 2. currently in production, so would require some scrounging. 

 Jay Lonner
 Bellingham, WA

 Sent from my Atari 400

 On Nov 11, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
 wrote:

 So what options exist for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to 
 thumbies? That don't cost a fortune - $60-$70 per shifter seems just crazy 
 honestly. Is there anything more reasonable? 

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Matthew Williams]

Aw, that bike has been ridden and loved.


> On Nov 13, 2023, at 8:02 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
> 
> 52cm CLEM "L"
> 
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so many 
> scratches. YIKES !
> 
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
> 
> Kim Hetzel.
> 
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 bucks 
>>> to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>> 
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
 could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
 
 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com <> 
 wrote:
> 
> 
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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[RBW] Re: FS: Royal Blue Rack Trunk

[Mathias Steiner]

I'll take it. Please email me to sort the particulars.
I've been looking for one, and this one has Provenance :)
cheers -mathias
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:24:49 PM UTC-5 Rich Lesnik wrote:

> I have a sightly-used royal blue rack-trunk that I don't use. Stiffeners 
> included. This is the model that opens from the front. $50+shipping from 
> Rivendell.

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Re: [RBW] Options for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to thumbies?

[reca...@gmail.com]

I use the MicroShift road thumb shifter mounts with the silver shifters. 

https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=106560

They are very nicely made, work great, and the pair comes in at less than 
$40. 

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 7:46:05 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> If you are eager to acquire the X and O thumbie mounts that Rivendell 
> sells and want to pay less than 45 dollars each for them, maybe just say 
> how much you want to spend, and maybe somebody who has a set will sell them 
> to you.  Or maybe you have something that retails for $90 that you no 
> longer want and you could trade?  There are ways to shake things loose in 
> this community.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:53:51 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the Riv ones I knew about. 90 bucks just to mount shifters is 
>> really expensive, though. I was hoping there was another option LOL. Maybe 
>> some will come up used. 
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> As near as I know the only game in town are the mounts sold by Riv for 
>>> that exact purpose, which you must be familiar with but I’ll link here 
>>> anyhow: https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk. Paul used to 
>>> sell adapters for their Thumbie mounts, but they are neither 1. cheap nor 
>>> 2. currently in production, so would require some scrounging. 
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So what options exist for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to 
>>> thumbies? That don't cost a fortune - $60-$70 per shifter seems just crazy 
>>> honestly. Is there anything more reasonable? 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Chris Dedinsky]

Jason - I know in my heart that's the smart decision, especially with 
regard to the design considerations. It's probably fortuitous that nobody 
has gotten in touch with a possible fork as of yet. With any luck, I'll be 
distracted with other bike notions sooner than later. 

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 4:07:12 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> For what it's worth, one of my riding pals runs the 700x38 Rene Herse 
> knobbies and they're delightful as well, so if you choose to size down to 
> address the issue I don't think you'll be missing out a whole lot.  Plus, 
> that keeps the BB height, etc closer to the design values. 
>
> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 16:44:06 UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. 
>>> So well done! 🤘🏼
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
>>> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>>>
 Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If 
 you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!

 If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can 
 swap your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not 
 the fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use 
 the typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still 
 use a quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a 
 threaded fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars 
 higher. Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
 -Wes

 On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:

> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on 
> my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by 
> the 
> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff 
> in 
> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
> snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
> southern interior.
>
> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, 
> if not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long 
> this experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and 
> forth 
> to work. 
>
> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their 
> Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam 
> Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and 
> crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the 
> rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the 
> irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. 
>
> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are 
> any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. 
> If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful 
> frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>
> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
> front fork. 
>
> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Joe Bernard]

Locked up hard and put away wet, San Francisco style! 

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:42:33 AM UTC-8 Jim M. wrote:

> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:02:06 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 52cm CLEM "L"
>
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
> many scratches. YIKES !
>
>  
> Take a close look at Grant's Clem and Appaloosa on the staff bike pages.  
> ;-)
>
> jim m
> walnut creek
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Jim M.]

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:02:06 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

52cm CLEM "L"

This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
many scratches. YIKES !

 
Take a close look at Grant's Clem and Appaloosa on the staff bike pages.  
;-)

jim m
walnut creek

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus ride shaming

[Davey Two Shoes]

I had a similar situation with traditional mtbr while riding my karate 
monkey set up with Rons ortho Bars and a b17 flyer. "what made you go with 
the beach bars?"

I dont take offense, truly we're the odd ones out there.

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 6:52:54 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> That sounds like a very impressive ride no matter what kind of bike you 
> are on. :)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 11, 2023, at 5:31 PM, Greg Lamont  wrote:
>
> As a fellow Gus rider, I've had this experience many times on my local 
> trails. Usually folks are very encouraging and supportive with comments 
> like, "I can't believe you're riding these trails on that bike," or 
> something along those lines. "Cruiser" is used a lot too. I guess those 
> comments could be interpreted as pejorative, but I tend to just assume the 
> bike is so outside of their normal experience that they automatically 
> assume I'm new to riding a bike or riding trails. My favorite personal 
> experience with this sort of thing was riding to the top of a highly 
> regarded trail, which is only accessible via ~3,500 feet of single track 
> climbing over ~12 miles. Gus was all dressed up with racks, a Wald basket 
> in front, and a basket bag. Just before the downhill section began there 
> were some full suspension riders taking a break and wearing full face 
> helmets and head-to-toe body armor. They jokingly asked if I was Uber Eats 
> bringing them food. It was all good natured fun, and they certainly made 
> their way down the trail in a very different way than I did! I like to 
> think we all had fun, and I'm sure glad I had a basket full of snacks to 
> fuel me up and keep me out there all day. 
>
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:06:43 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>
>> I thank-you for your best wishes for me to love my 52cm Clem as much as 
>> you. At this point in time, it looks and feels very promising despite that 
>> I have no even ridden it yet. I will tell you this much. When I picked up 
>> my 52cm Clem and moved it after assembling it yesterday, I could not 
>> believe how light it is compared to my 59cm Clem. My 59cm Clem feels like a 
>> damn tank. I could not believe the comparison. I will not miss the weight 
>> at all. 
>>
>> So silly of those riders asking you if you were on your way to have a 
>> picnic. I have not had any silly remarks yet being out and about, less even 
>> given recognition of my bike being a Rivendell. 
>>
>> I post pictures later in the coming days ahead.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 6:12:52 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Kim, I hope you love that 52 Clem as I do mine. I once rode my Clem on 
>> the very same trail that I rode yesterday, complete with front rack, basket 
>> & basket bag. Riders passing me asked if I was going to have a picnic.:)
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 12:36 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> That is quite an experience you had interacting with those traditional 
>> mountain bikers thinking that your bike was a cruiser. It proves that not 
>> everyone has heard of Rivendell Bicycle Works. Life happens.
>>
>> I am very happy for you that you are in love with your new modified 
>> cockpit of your Gus. It looks great with all the assorted colors.
>>
>> I sat in my new cockpit of my blue 52cm Clem earlier today for the first 
>> time after assembling it. Believe me it was quite a change compared to my 
>> 59cm Clem. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 6:17:49 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Not really shamed but while having a really good ride at one of my 
>> favorite trails I passed a couple of riders on their traditional mountain 
>> bikes. They caught up to me in the parking lot when my bike was already 
>> loaded into the car. They asked " was that you that passed us on a cruiser 
>> bike?" And, "what kind of bike was that, a Breezer? I answered it was a 
>> Rivendell. I do not think they had heard of that name. It was all good fun 
>> and I took it as a compliment. I am in love with my new cockpit on this 
>> bike.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/VMbmV6jYNpQvtkNKA
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[James]

Maybe abused, maybe just used.  I'm okay if my riv has scratches like that

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:11:25 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> "Tough bikes to love" ;-)
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:02:06 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 52cm CLEM "L"
>>
>> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
>> many scratches. YIKES !
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
 Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 
 bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!


 https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:

> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>>
>> Clem H
>> 52cm
>> $741
>> New Jersey
>> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

"Tough bikes to love" ;-)

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 11:02:06 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> 52cm CLEM "L"
>
> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
> many scratches. YIKES !
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 
>>> bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>>
 could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>
> Clem H
> 52cm
> $741
> New Jersey
> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Kim H.]

52cm CLEM "L"

This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with so 
many scratches. YIKES !

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html

Kim Hetzel.

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:

> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>
>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 150 
>> bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>
>>> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]

 Clem H
 52cm
 $741
 New Jersey
 https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381



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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Edwin W]

I am with George. Once you have more than a certain number of bikes (a 
number you are certain to have opinions about), one of them should be a 
folder!
Great for train travel.
Great for guests (they fit all kinds of people).
Great for conversation starter.
Can be stored in a closet, attic, under the stairs, etc...

Good luck!

Edwin

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:16:07 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would not 
> be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
> equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
> with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
> they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
> you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
> bikes.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>
>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>
>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>> can have.
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Bill Schairer]

For those looking for light and zippy step through bikes, this one looks 
like one special bike:

"Albert Eisentraut Limited possibly one of a kind . I posted this bike on 
Bike forums and no one had seen one before , So most likely a special order 
. Small frame size. All Campagnolo Components. Stays are very chipped up as 
it sat between two mountain bikes in a shed at a yard sale. Bike appears to 
have little wear otherwise. Wheels are also campy period correct ,the ones 
found on the bike were tubular . Buyer can have either pair although no 
tires on the originals."

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/bik/d/eisentraut-step-through-road-bike/7682405954.html

Bill S
San Diego

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 5:56:27 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I had a different steel frame and all I can describe is that when I was 
> riding I felt like I was dragging every pound of that bike along, where 
> with the Platypus it feels like it is leaping forward. I just don't feel 
> it. Even as I have added racks, bags, fenders and I keep asking when it 
> will feel like a heavy bike. That has not happened yet.
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:46:30 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Jake,
>> That is interesting that the bikes are about equal in weight but one 
>> rides "zippier and lighter". I've heard this before in comparing the Clem 
>> to the Platypus but I just don't know what qualities makes a bike feel 
>> zippier if it isn't lighter weight.
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 12:25:06 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with what Garth is saying about weight/size differences. 
>>> Depending on the respective builds and how the sizing falls, it's possible 
>>> that a Platypus could be every bit as long and heavy as a Clem. As people 
>>> in the 81-84cm pbh range, I have a 55cm Platypus and my dad has a 52cm 
>>> Clem, and the Clem is probably lighter in part due to the smaller wheel 
>>> size. Both are great bikes, and I do find the Platypus rides zippier and 
>>> lighter, but in terms of lifting, transport, and storage there is not much 
>>> difference between the two. Hope this helps!
>>>
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:06:09 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Chung, If your wife finds the Clem too long and heavy a Platypus is not 
 going to make a effective difference in regards to weight or maneuvering. 
 What would is a frame like a Soma Buena Vista (rim brake or disc) or Velo 
 Orange Polyvalent low kicker. Both have relatively typical chainstays and 
 wheelbases and are going to be easier to pick up and maneuver simply due 
 to 
 the fact that they have "normal" wheelbases and chainstays so are going to 
 be inherently lighter to begin with. There's a notable difference in 
 geometry though, with the VO being more low trail and the Soma mid-high. 
 Plus the Soma has quite steep seat tube angles so if using a Brooks you 
 may 
 not be able to get the seat back where you want. Thankfully they do both 
 use a 27.2 post though. 

 Note, the Platy isn't a step through either so all three compared to a 
 Clem are more like step around I suppose ! 


 https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578fd48f3a30004789cd9,5ee8f7ce7eaeb8001717ac2f
 ,

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:

 I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It 
 rides ligh/zippy  and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket 
 and a Riv trunk bag. 
 They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same 
 bike. 

 Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger. 

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:21:50 AM UTC-7 chungeu...wrote:

 Hi,

 I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
 However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
 rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
 storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
 Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
 with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
 with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some 
 cockpit 
 setup to make it more zippy?

 Best,
 Chung



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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Sackville Banana Sax Sack

[Patch T]

I'm not 100% sure this is the bag for me, and so would rather not purchase 
brand new.

Will consider about any condition, and any color but blue.

Anyone have one?

Patch in NYC

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[RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Great pics everyone!

Patrick: That's Caroline County, Virginia, about 12 miles from home.

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 10:10:00 PM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:

>
> I road my old Ritchey to nearby White Park just over a week ago and there 
> was still some color, but the leaves fell fast after that.
>
> [image: Ritchey.jpg]
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:16:46 PM UTC-5 tob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I enjoyed some fall colors on the Bleriot this weekend
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 4:56:13 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Some more .. I've been riding the Bombadil pretty much exclusively 
>>> lately, after riding it very little all summer. 
>>>
>>> Eric - please do visit!  Late March thru late April is when the best 
>>> display of cherry/plum blossoms outside Japan are in full swing. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20231104_211128475 (1).jpg]
>>>
>>

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