[RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Jim M.]

Great build! That'll be eye-catching on PBP!

jim mather
walnut creek


On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 8:27:37 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>
> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>
> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
>  Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>
> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>
> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Bill Lindsay]

Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/

Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas 
fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset

Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU 
tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers

Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom 
bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down 
tube shifters.  KMC chain

Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing. 
 Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers 
(electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle

Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse 
pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack

total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[dylan green]

wow...what a dream bike! congrats.

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 2:43:01 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I expect 700x38 Barlow Pass will fit without fenders.  I test fit a Barlow 
> Pass wheel on the front and there's room.  
>
> Honestly I'm probably going to get the Orondo Grade 700x31 tubeless and 
> leave it that way with fenders, semi-permanently.  The build right now has 
> used 700x32 Stampede Pass.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 2:27:16 PM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Very classy build, Bill! I love the boldness of the pink and the contrast 
>> with the cream.
>>
>> Do you know what your max tire size will be with/without fenders? And I 
>> assume its built for a 700c wheel?
>>
>> Can't wait to see it with fenders!
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-6 plumber...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and 
>>> have some more content to share with the group. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy the new ride Bill!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of 
 other people's bikes.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I 
> too recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D 
> Had 
> to do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here. 
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann  
> wrote:
>
>> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you 
>> went above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
>>> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, 
>>> though. 
>>> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not 
>>> entirely 
>>> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so 
 there's no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few 
 shots 
 on my porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water 
 bottle cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just 
 under 20 
 pounds, but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  

 The album is updated, scroll to the end:
 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle 
 Ding Ding! wrote:

> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. 
> Like a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the 
> little 
> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
> inaugural 
> ride take you?
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
> wrote:
>
>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have 
>> enumerated 
>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>> just 
>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully 
>> and 
>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is 
>> to have 
>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
>> one of 
>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>> Meditating 
>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>
>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra 
>> machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and 
>> indeed 
>> grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and 
>> slowed 
>> down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
>> about 
>> this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite 
>> housing, which 
>> was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene 
>> Herse 
>> cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
>> nuances.  
>> I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my 

[RBW] FS: 58cm 650B AHH F/F/HS

[Dan]

I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. This 
is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a Waterford.  
Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost not 
included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might need. 
Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange headset. 

For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
wrapper). 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA

Daniel
LA, CA, USA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen - Toyo Version - 63cm

[MCT]

Bump.  Any offers out there. 

On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 4:24:17 PM UTC-6 MCT wrote:

> Price Drop to $1350. 
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:29:17 PM UTC-6 MCT wrote:
>
>> Selling my Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen frameset, so frame, fork, and 
>> headset. The frame is in outstanding shape as shown in the pictures. The 
>> stem and handlebars are not included in the price. It is the Toyo version 
>> so made in Japan. This is a catch and release as I bought it a few months 
>> ago from here or ibob.
>>
>> The size is 63cm. You can find the geometry for the Toyo Homer at the 
>> google sheets below. 
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4
>>
>> Pictures here 
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-35Bc9y6EwECQVwe1QqF9aq-5SoCyVB_?usp=sharing
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or want to see a picture of 
>> something specific. 
>> The price is $1,500 shipped CONUS. 
>>
>> Thanks, Matt in OKC
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Bill Lindsay]

I expect 700x38 Barlow Pass will fit without fenders.  I test fit a Barlow 
Pass wheel on the front and there's room.  

Honestly I'm probably going to get the Orondo Grade 700x31 tubeless and 
leave it that way with fenders, semi-permanently.  The build right now has 
used 700x32 Stampede Pass.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 2:27:16 PM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Very classy build, Bill! I love the boldness of the pink and the contrast 
> with the cream.
>
> Do you know what your max tire size will be with/without fenders? And I 
> assume its built for a 700c wheel?
>
> Can't wait to see it with fenders!
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-6 plumber...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and 
>> have some more content to share with the group. 
>>
>> Enjoy the new ride Bill!
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of 
>>> other people's bikes.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I 
 too recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D 
 Had 
 to do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here. 

 On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann  
 wrote:

> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you 
> went above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
>> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, 
>> though. 
>> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not 
>> entirely 
>> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's 
>>> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my 
>>> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle 
>>> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
>>> pounds, 
>>> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>>
>>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. 
 Like a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the 
 little 
 details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
 inaugural 
 ride take you?

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
 wrote:

> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have 
> enumerated 
> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
> just 
> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully 
> and 
> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is 
> to have 
> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
> one of 
> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
> Meditating 
> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>
> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra 
> machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed 
> grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed 
> down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
> about 
> this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
> which 
> was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse 
> cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
> nuances.  
> I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own. 
>  The 
> Flickr album has more shots in it.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 
> steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Michael Ullmer]

Very classy build, Bill! I love the boldness of the pink and the contrast 
with the cream.

Do you know what your max tire size will be with/without fenders? And I 
assume its built for a 700c wheel?

Can't wait to see it with fenders!

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:55:16 PM UTC-6 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and 
> have some more content to share with the group. 
>
> Enjoy the new ride Bill!
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of 
>> other people's bikes.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I 
>>> too recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had 
>>> to do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you 
 went above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!

 On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, 
> though. 
> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not 
> entirely 
> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's 
>> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my 
>> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle 
>> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
>> pounds, 
>> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>
>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like 
>>> a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
>>> inaugural 
>>> ride take you?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
 tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have 
 enumerated 
 Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
 just 
 states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully 
 and 
 deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
 have 
 the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
 one of 
 the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
 Meditating 
 on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
 saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  

 I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra 
 machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed 
 grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed 
 down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
 about 
 this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
 which 
 was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse 
 cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
 nuances.  
 I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  
 The 
 Flickr album has more shots in it.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
> wrote:
>
>> SMH
>>
>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>>
>>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[vernon brooks]

Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and
have some more content to share with the group.

Enjoy the new ride Bill!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of
> other people's bikes.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I too
>> recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had to
>> do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you went
>>> above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of
 components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though.
 It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely
 on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.

 On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's
> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my
> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle
> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
> pounds,
> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.
>
> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like
>> a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little
>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
>> inaugural
>> ride take you?
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat
>>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated
>>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>>> just
>>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and
>>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
>>> have
>>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
>>> one of
>>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>>> Meditating
>>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and
>>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.
>>>
>>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra
>>> machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed
>>> grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed
>>> down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
>>> about
>>> this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
>>> which
>>> was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse
>>> cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
>>> nuances.
>>> I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  
>>> The
>>> Flickr album has more shots in it.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay
 wrote:

> SMH
>
> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on
> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>
>> Toshi
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Bill Lindsay]

Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of 
other people's bikes.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I too 
> recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had to 
> do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here. 
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann  
> wrote:
>
>> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you went 
>> above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
>>> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though. 
>>> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely 
>>> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
 inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
 of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, 
 and 
 a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
 concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  

 The album is updated, scroll to the end:
 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
> inaugural 
> ride take you?
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>> just 
>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
>> have 
>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
>> of 
>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>> Meditating 
>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>
>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
>> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off 
>> the 
>> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
>> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
>> earlier 
>> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new 
>> procedure 
>> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, 
>> which 
>> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set 
>> up, 
>> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
>> shots in it.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 SMH

 Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
 Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:

> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>
> Toshi
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[vernon brooks]

Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I too
recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had to
do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann 
wrote:

> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you went
> above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of
>> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though.
>> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely
>> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no
>>> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch
>>> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and
>>> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I
>>> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.
>>>
>>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a
 jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little
 details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the inaugural
 ride take you?

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat
> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated
> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just
> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and
> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
> have
> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
> of
> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  Meditating
> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and
> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.
>
> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop
> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the
> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the
> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
> earlier
> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new procedure
> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, which
> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set up,
> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more
> shots in it.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> SMH
>>>
>>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on
>>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>>
 I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!

 Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Matthew Rebmann]

The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you went 
above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though. 
> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely 
> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
>> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
>> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and 
>> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
>> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>
>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
>>> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the inaugural 
>>> ride take you?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
 tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
 Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just 
 states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
 deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
 have 
 the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
 of 
 the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  Meditating 
 on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
 saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  

 I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
 time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the 
 lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
 brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
 earlier 
 builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new procedure 
 for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, which 
 have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set up, 
 and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
 shots in it.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> SMH
>>
>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[George Schick]

I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of 
components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though. 
It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely 
on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and 
> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>
> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
>> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the inaugural 
>> ride take you?
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat tongue 
>>> in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated Rules of 
>>> activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just states 
>>> that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
>>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to have 
>>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one of 
>>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  Meditating 
>>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>>
>>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
>>> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the 
>>> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
>>> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my earlier 
>>> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new procedure 
>>> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, which 
>>> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set up, 
>>> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
>>> shots in it.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> SMH
>
> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on Rule 
> #8, and then recite Rule #8
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Steve]

Bill,  beautifully done!   Those color matched Honjos are going to be the 
piece de resistance!!!

Pardon me now while I mop up the puddle of drool from my keyboard.

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 12:20:03 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> We have a huge glass jug (two of them actually) where every cork goes.  I 
> just shop from those jugs for the right outside diameter.  About 80% of 
> wine corks are too wide.  I've got a pretty good eye for picking out the 
> ones that'll work, and it is entirely as a mechanic would think of them. 
>  They are a useful object, but contain no "soul" or significance outside of 
> their utility (at least for me).
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:59:52 AM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on the new bike Bill. I always look forward to seeing 
>> your builds.
>>
>> Since there appear to be no existing Velominati rules that govern the use 
>> of wine corks for bar ends, is it up to us (RBW Owners Bunch) to create 
>> them? I am inventing the role of Velosommolier.
>>
>> - Must the wine be consumed after the assembly of the bike? Kind of a 
>> finishing touch like when they smash a bottle against a new sailing ship?
>>
>> - Must the wine match the bike in terms of character, whimsical vs 
>> serious, light vs heavy, drop bars vs upright bars, etc?  
>>
>> - Must the uniqueness of the wine somewhat match the uniqueness of the 
>> bike?
>>
>> - Must both ends be from the same wine (necessitating 2 bottles) or do 
>> you cut the corks in half?
>>
>> I guess what I'm asking is what kind of wine are you going to use? 
>> Mike in Austin
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:31:54 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Wine corks go in the bar ends after more shellac
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:59:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 The black tape/saddle/bottle cage combo as per rule#8  works! Noticed 
 the unplugged barends but I am positive this is a detail you haven't 
 overlooked. Nitto barend plugs?  Or something from Rene Herse?

 On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's 
> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my 
> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle 
> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
> pounds, 
> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>
> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like 
>> a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
>> inaugural 
>> ride take you?
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
>>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
>>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>>> just 
>>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
>>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
>>> have 
>>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
>>> one of 
>>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>>> Meditating 
>>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>>
>>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra 
>>> machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed 
>>> grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed 
>>> down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
>>> about 
>>> this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
>>> which 
>>> was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse 
>>> cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
>>> nuances. 
>>>  I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  
>>> The 
>>> Flickr album has more shots in it.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
 wrote:

> SMH

Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Bill Lindsay]

We have a huge glass jug (two of them actually) where every cork goes.  I 
just shop from those jugs for the right outside diameter.  About 80% of 
wine corks are too wide.  I've got a pretty good eye for picking out the 
ones that'll work, and it is entirely as a mechanic would think of them. 
 They are a useful object, but contain no "soul" or significance outside of 
their utility (at least for me).

BL in EC

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 7:59:52 AM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congratulations on the new bike Bill. I always look forward to seeing your 
> builds.
>
> Since there appear to be no existing Velominati rules that govern the use 
> of wine corks for bar ends, is it up to us (RBW Owners Bunch) to create 
> them? I am inventing the role of Velosommolier.
>
> - Must the wine be consumed after the assembly of the bike? Kind of a 
> finishing touch like when they smash a bottle against a new sailing ship?
>
> - Must the wine match the bike in terms of character, whimsical vs 
> serious, light vs heavy, drop bars vs upright bars, etc?  
>
> - Must the uniqueness of the wine somewhat match the uniqueness of the 
> bike?
>
> - Must both ends be from the same wine (necessitating 2 bottles) or do you 
> cut the corks in half?
>
> I guess what I'm asking is what kind of wine are you going to use? 
> Mike in Austin
>
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:31:54 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Wine corks go in the bar ends after more shellac
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:59:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> The black tape/saddle/bottle cage combo as per rule#8  works! Noticed 
>>> the unplugged barends but I am positive this is a detail you haven't 
>>> overlooked. Nitto barend plugs?  Or something from Rene Herse?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
 inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
 of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, 
 and 
 a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
 concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  

 The album is updated, scroll to the end:
 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
> inaugural 
> ride take you?
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>> just 
>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
>> have 
>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
>> of 
>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>> Meditating 
>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>
>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
>> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off 
>> the 
>> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
>> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
>> earlier 
>> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new 
>> procedure 
>> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, 
>> which 
>> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set 
>> up, 
>> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
>> shots in it.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 SMH

 Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
 Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:

> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Frame and parts sale

[Edward Garnica]

He comes with the bubbly pedals, his favorite chew toy.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 5:36 AM JohnS  wrote:

> Hello Edward,
>
> How much for the Corgi?
>
> I know, priceless :)
>
> JohnS
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-5 edwardb...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:59 PM Edward Garnica 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Making some bike changes and listing the following parts, I will edit as
>>> parts are sold:
>>>
>>> Like new 52cm size small Crust Evasion Pastel Speckle'd Black Frame and
>>> Fork - $800
>>>
>>> Like new Nitto Handlebar Wavie B2524HT 25.4 660mm - $100
>>>
>>> Great Condition Sim Works Bubbly - $75
>>>
>>> Great Condition Nitto B809 HT Cross Riser Bar - $70
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Ryan]

Something local like a Napa Valley rose ??

" Located just north of St. Helena, this state-of-the-art winery features 
17,000 square feet of winemaking caves and has three different vineyard 
AVAs. The *2022 Rosé of Pinot Noir* is summer in a bottle, with tastes of 
sweet watermelon and pink grapefruit leaving you longing for more."

https://www.visitnapavalley.com/blog/post/napa-valley-wineries-with-rose/ 
 

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:59:52 AM UTC-6 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congratulations on the new bike Bill. I always look forward to seeing your 
> builds.
>
> Since there appear to be no existing Velominati rules that govern the use 
> of wine corks for bar ends, is it up to us (RBW Owners Bunch) to create 
> them? I am inventing the role of Velosommolier.
>
> - Must the wine be consumed after the assembly of the bike? Kind of a 
> finishing touch like when they smash a bottle against a new sailing ship?
>
> - Must the wine match the bike in terms of character, whimsical vs 
> serious, light vs heavy, drop bars vs upright bars, etc?  
>
> - Must the uniqueness of the wine somewhat match the uniqueness of the 
> bike?
>
> - Must both ends be from the same wine (necessitating 2 bottles) or do you 
> cut the corks in half?
>
> I guess what I'm asking is what kind of wine are you going to use? 
> Mike in Austin
>
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:31:54 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Wine corks go in the bar ends after more shellac
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:59:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> The black tape/saddle/bottle cage combo as per rule#8  works! Noticed 
>>> the unplugged barends but I am positive this is a detail you haven't 
>>> overlooked. Nitto barend plugs?  Or something from Rene Herse?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
 inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
 of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, 
 and 
 a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
 concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  

 The album is updated, scroll to the end:
 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
> inaugural 
> ride take you?
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>> just 
>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
>> have 
>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
>> of 
>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>> Meditating 
>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>
>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
>> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off 
>> the 
>> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
>> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
>> earlier 
>> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new 
>> procedure 
>> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, 
>> which 
>> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set 
>> up, 
>> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
>> shots in it.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 SMH

 Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
 Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:

> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Mike Packard]

Congratulations on the new bike Bill. I always look forward to seeing your 
builds.

Since there appear to be no existing Velominati rules that govern the use 
of wine corks for bar ends, is it up to us (RBW Owners Bunch) to create 
them? I am inventing the role of Velosommolier.

- Must the wine be consumed after the assembly of the bike? Kind of a 
finishing touch like when they smash a bottle against a new sailing ship?

- Must the wine match the bike in terms of character, whimsical vs serious, 
light vs heavy, drop bars vs upright bars, etc?  

- Must the uniqueness of the wine somewhat match the uniqueness of the bike?

- Must both ends be from the same wine (necessitating 2 bottles) or do you 
cut the corks in half?

I guess what I'm asking is what kind of wine are you going to use? 
Mike in Austin


On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 9:31:54 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Wine corks go in the bar ends after more shellac
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:59:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>
>> The black tape/saddle/bottle cage combo as per rule#8  works! Noticed the 
>> unplugged barends but I am positive this is a detail you haven't 
>> overlooked. Nitto barend plugs?  Or something from Rene Herse?
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
>>> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
>>> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and 
>>> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
>>> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>>
>>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
 jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
 details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
 inaugural 
 ride take you?

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just 
> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
> have 
> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
> of 
> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
> Meditating 
> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>
> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the 
> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
> earlier 
> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new 
> procedure 
> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, 
> which 
> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set 
> up, 
> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
> shots in it.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> SMH
>>>
>>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
>>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>>
 I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!

 Toshi



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Bill Lindsay]

Wine corks go in the bar ends after more shellac

BL in EC

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 5:59:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> The black tape/saddle/bottle cage combo as per rule#8  works! Noticed the 
> unplugged barends but I am positive this is a detail you haven't 
> overlooked. Nitto barend plugs?  Or something from Rene Herse?
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
>> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
>> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and 
>> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
>> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>>
>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
>>> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the inaugural 
>>> ride take you?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat 
 tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated 
 Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just 
 states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
 deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
 have 
 the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
 of 
 the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  Meditating 
 on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
 saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  

 I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
 time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the 
 lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
 brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
 earlier 
 builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new procedure 
 for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, which 
 have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set up, 
 and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
 shots in it.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> SMH
>>
>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on 
>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Ryan]

The black tape/saddle/bottle cage combo as per rule#8  works! Noticed the 
unplugged barends but I am positive this is a detail you haven't 
overlooked. Nitto barend plugs?  Or something from Rene Herse?

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no 
> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch 
> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and 
> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I 
> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.  
>
> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a 
>> jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little 
>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the inaugural 
>> ride take you?
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat tongue 
>>> in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated Rules of 
>>> activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just states 
>>> that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and 
>>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to have 
>>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one of 
>>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  Meditating 
>>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and 
>>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.  
>>>
>>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop 
>>> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the 
>>> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the 
>>> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my earlier 
>>> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new procedure 
>>> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, which 
>>> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set up, 
>>> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more 
>>> shots in it.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> SMH
>
> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on Rule 
> #8, and then recite Rule #8
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frame and parts sale

[JohnS]

Hello Edward,

How much for the Corgi? 

I know, priceless :)

JohnS

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 10:15:21 PM UTC-5 edwardb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:59 PM Edward Garnica  
> wrote:
>
>> Making some bike changes and listing the following parts, I will edit as 
>> parts are sold: 
>>
>> Like new 52cm size small Crust Evasion Pastel Speckle'd Black Frame and 
>> Fork - $800 
>>
>> Like new Nitto Handlebar Wavie B2524HT 25.4 660mm - $100 
>>
>> Great Condition Sim Works Bubbly - $75
>>
>> Great Condition Nitto B809 HT Cross Riser Bar - $70 
>>
>>

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