Re: [RBW] Friction 9 V 10 speed

[exliontamer]

I started friction shifting on 8 speed years ago and may have just got used 
to it so it's really hard to say. Totally get the reasoning of not being 
able to miss a gear when you have 10-11 in the back but I pretty much run 
between 6-9 with my friction bikes and never have any issues. When pedaling 
hard, I've had ghost shifting on every Riv/Dia Compe Shifter I've had 
unless they're tightened to the point of negating the feel. Very much 
prefer the older Suntour ratcheting which just feel more solid/sure and the 
Shimanos that are switchable. 
On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 10:36:50 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:

> Oops, chopped off the image. 
>
>
> Jock
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 8:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>> A tip o’ the hat to you good folks. I ride this beautiful mid-80s 
>> Waterford Paramount race bike equipped with 7-speed freewheel. Until 
>> recently all friction. But I often ride with the carbons, because they’re 
>> everywhere. And the rapid shifting required by the paceline just wasn’t 
>> ideal. So I installed click levers and am truly much happier. They just 
>> work seamlessly without fuss…and no trimming required. Not inclined to go 
>> back and I’m fine with that. 
>>
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 6:27 PM Bernard Duhon  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been friction  shifting my 10 speed campy set up. 11-26 X 44-28 
>>> Crank is Sugino. 
>>> Was not happy with performance , ghosts shifts up when spinning & down 
>>> when stomping the pedals.  
>>> Switched up to a 34-11 Shimano
>>> Nothing else changed 
>>> Seems to be working really well. 
>>>  
>>> Previous threads and literature suggests that the closer the cogs in 10 
>>> & 11 speeds makes for better friction shifting.
>>>  
>>> What has been your experience?  
>>>  
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[RBW] Re: Taxes!

[Ian A]

Magnificent, although the obligatory drive-side photo is absent. :)

 IanA

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 2:24:12 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Riv content: rode the Matthews SA ASC 26" wheel clone of a Riv Road custom 
> NW to the PO in Corrales against Westerlies 25 gusts to 35  to get my 1040 
> and proof of payment in 12 hours before the deadline. Also mailed a nice 
> pair of old, non-aero DC Grand Compe levers and calipers in trade for a 
> reasonably-wide (=/< 44 cm) VO Course bar. 
>
> Only 12 miles RT but had fun battling the wind in the hooks and only 
> rarely used the 65" 2nd/0.9 underdrive gear, staying in the 72" 3rd/direct 
> most of the way.
>
> Patrick "May the extortionists choke on my payment" Moore
>
> Photo from an earlier PO run, shipping a longboard to my daughter:
>
> [image: image.png]
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[RBW] Re: Friction 9 V 10 speed

[DavidP]

My road bike is friction 2x10 with Riv Silver 2s on barend pods, Campy 
Veloce FD, Sugino 48/34 crank, Ultegra 11-30 cassette, and Ultegra 10 speed 
chain. Wonderful shifting. After initial setup I had some occasional 
slipping on the right shifter, requiring some snugging of the D-ring bolt 
by hand, but it's been holding fine for a while now.

I have other friction shifted bikes ranging from 7 speeds to 9 speeds in 
back and while they all work well shifting is easier on the bikes with more 
cogs.

-Dave

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:27:21 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

> I have been friction  shifting my 10 speed campy set up. 11-26 X 44-28 
> Crank is Sugino. 
> Was not happy with performance , ghosts shifts up when spinning & down 
> when stomping the pedals.  
> Switched up to a 34-11 Shimano
> Nothing else changed 
> Seems to be working really well. 
>  
> Previous threads and literature suggests that the closer the cogs in 10 & 
> 11 speeds makes for better friction shifting.
>  
> What has been your experience?  
>  
>

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[RBW] Friction 9 V 10 speed

[Bernard Duhon]

I have been friction  shifting my 10 speed campy set up. 11-26 X 44-28 Crank is 
Sugino.
Was not happy with performance , ghosts shifts up when spinning & down when 
stomping the pedals.
Switched up to a 34-11 Shimano
Nothing else changed
Seems to be working really well.

Previous threads and literature suggests that the closer the cogs in 10 & 11 
speeds makes for better friction shifting.

What has been your experience?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Stephen]

Thanks Johnny!

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:19:52 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> JK, thanks for the clarification Kai, my tired brain couldn't remember 
> what the third m stood for... loving the bike!
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:15:17 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Massive mountain mixte!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 21:08 Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>>> Love it!!!
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
 WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
 Happy shredding!
 -Kai
 On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Couple more:
>
> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I 
>> settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>>
>> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
>> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv 
>> mixte 
>> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
>> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help 
>> myself. 
>>
>> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
>> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz 
>> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
>> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using 
>> what 
>> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>>
>> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used 
>> maxxis tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' 
>> meats this frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake 
>> cables.. 
>> I'll probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big 
>> ones are fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a 
>> couple 
>> years because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the 
>> clamp 
>> size and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim 
>> the 
>> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats 
>> working. 
>>
>> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>>
>> Build notes:
>> 60cm Tosco's
>> old ass oury grips
>> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
>> riv silver 2 thumbies 
>> nitto 11cm talux
>> stock fsa headset
>> stock kalloy seatpost
>> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
>> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
>> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
>> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
>> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
>> mismatchy monarch pedals
>> XTR M9sumthin FD
>> XTR Rapid Rise RD
>> XT 11-34 cassette
>> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>>
>> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Stephen]

JK, thanks for the clarification Kai, my tired brain couldn't remember what 
the third m stood for... loving the bike!

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:15:17 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Massive mountain mixte!
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 21:08 Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
>> Love it!!!
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
>>> WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
>>> Happy shredding!
>>> -Kai
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 Couple more:

 [image: IMG_6627.jpg]

 [image: IMG_6629.jpg]

 [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
 On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I 
> settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>
> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv 
> mixte 
> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help myself. 
>
> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz 
> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using 
> what 
> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>
> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used 
> maxxis tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' 
> meats this frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake 
> cables.. 
> I'll probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big 
> ones are fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a 
> couple 
> years because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the 
> clamp 
> size and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim 
> the 
> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats 
> working. 
>
> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>
> Build notes:
> 60cm Tosco's
> old ass oury grips
> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
> riv silver 2 thumbies 
> nitto 11cm talux
> stock fsa headset
> stock kalloy seatpost
> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
> mismatchy monarch pedals
> XTR M9sumthin FD
> XTR Rapid Rise RD
> XT 11-34 cassette
> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>
> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Stephen Cavell]

Massive mountain mixte!

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 21:08 Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> Love it!!!
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
> wrote:
>
>> Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
>> WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
>> Happy shredding!
>> -Kai
>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Couple more:
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 Howdy,

 Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I
 settle in and keep personalizing it.

 I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I
 really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv mixte
 propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this
 thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help myself.

 This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring
 cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz
 /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things
 with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using what
 I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.

 Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used
 maxxis tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o'
 meats this frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake cables..
 I'll probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big
 ones are fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a couple
 years because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the clamp
 size and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim the
 derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats working.

 Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:

 Build notes:
 60cm Tosco's
 old ass oury grips
 avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
 riv silver 2 thumbies
 nitto 11cm talux
 stock fsa headset
 stock kalloy seatpost
 imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
 Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops
 Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
 Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
 mismatchy monarch pedals
 XTR M9sumthin FD
 XTR Rapid Rise RD
 XT 11-34 cassette
 one of those blingy gold kmc chains

 [image: IMG_6619.jpg]

 [image: IMG_6622.jpg]



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[RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Johnny Alien]

Love it!!!

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
> WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
> Happy shredding!
> -Kai
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Couple more:
>>
>> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I 
>>> settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>>>
>>> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
>>> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv mixte 
>>> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
>>> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help myself. 
>>>
>>> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
>>> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz 
>>> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
>>> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using what 
>>> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>>>
>>> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used 
>>> maxxis tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' 
>>> meats this frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake cables.. 
>>> I'll probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big 
>>> ones are fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a couple 
>>> years because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the clamp 
>>> size and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim the 
>>> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats working. 
>>>
>>> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>>>
>>> Build notes:
>>> 60cm Tosco's
>>> old ass oury grips
>>> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
>>> riv silver 2 thumbies 
>>> nitto 11cm talux
>>> stock fsa headset
>>> stock kalloy seatpost
>>> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
>>> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
>>> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
>>> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
>>> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
>>> mismatchy monarch pedals
>>> XTR M9sumthin FD
>>> XTR Rapid Rise RD
>>> XT 11-34 cassette
>>> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
Happy shredding!
-Kai
On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Couple more:
>
> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I 
>> settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>>
>> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
>> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv mixte 
>> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
>> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help myself. 
>>
>> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
>> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz 
>> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
>> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using what 
>> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>>
>> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used maxxis 
>> tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' meats this 
>> frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake cables.. I'll 
>> probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big ones are 
>> fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a couple years 
>> because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the clamp size 
>> and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim the 
>> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats working. 
>>
>> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>>
>> Build notes:
>> 60cm Tosco's
>> old ass oury grips
>> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
>> riv silver 2 thumbies 
>> nitto 11cm talux
>> stock fsa headset
>> stock kalloy seatpost
>> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
>> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
>> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
>> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
>> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
>> mismatchy monarch pedals
>> XTR M9sumthin FD
>> XTR Rapid Rise RD
>> XT 11-34 cassette
>> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>>
>> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Billie bars

[eddietheflay]

$95 now

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 6:57:46 AM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:

> $100 shipped.
>
> On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 11:34:00 AM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:
>
>> I have some shims that would allow smaller diameter bars to be installed.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 7:30:20 AM UTC-7 eddietheflay wrote:
>>
>>> Been installed but so damn close to perfect condition...a photo can't 
>>> show the teeny tiny nicks. $110 shipped.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Texas Riv Ride Your Age Accomplished

[Nick Payne]

It's a bit easier in this country with metric units. One of our cycling 
friends who recently turned 80 celebrated his birthday with an 80km ride.

Nick Payne
Canberra

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[RBW] Re: FS: Alpacka Packraft Setup + Aquabound Paddle

[Collin A]

Sold to a gent in Nevada. Thanks folks.

Collin, raftless, in Berkeley

On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 12:16:55 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Folks,
>
> It is with a heavy feeling in my gut that I am posting my packraft setup 
> for sale. I haven't used it since I moved away from Sacramento and I don't 
> forsee it being something I continue with.
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wANwCsEVy5zK242K9
> Asking for $1000 shipped (plus 3% to cover G fees) for everything.
>
> You'll get:
>
>- Alpacka Carribou Bikerafting Raft - just the basic one (no bailer or 
>internal storage) that comes in at about 5 lbs in blue. Comes with the 
>seat, inflation bag, storage sack, and a mini-repair setup. No tears, 
>abrasions, repairs, etc. Only used in freshwater, and cleaned/air dried 
>after every use.
>   - https://www.alpackaraft.com/products/caribou
>   - Aquabound Whisky 4-piece fiberglass paddle in *sunwave*. This is 
>*light* and packs down small for easy carrying on the bike. It was 
>bought as a cosmetic second so its got some inconsistencies in the epoxy, 
>but is structurally sound. There is one itty bitty chip in one of the 
>paddles in the outermost layer, but otherwise pretty good condition. 200cm 
>length
>   - Whiskey Fiberglass 4-Piece Straight Shaft Kayak Paddle | Aqua 
>   Bound 
>   
> 
>   - Not pictured, but a little waterproof holder to hang onto your 
>phone, wallet, etc. very useful in keeping the important stuff dry.
>   - https://www.alpackaraft.com/products/lap-bag
>   
> Backstory:
> I picked up the raft and paddle in mid-COVID (Spring 2021) and used it 
> extensively with my appaloosa during my time in Sacramento - pedaling up 
> the American River Trail to the Nimbus fish hatchery and then paddling down 
> the river back to paradise beach in Sacramento (about 3-4 hours of 
> leisurely floating). I also used it once for camping up at Folsom lake 
> Peninsula Campground, which was a hoot and mildly scary.
>
> It served as a great extension to my normal bike rides during the hot 
> summer months and the weird time of COVID, and really opened up my eyes to 
> what you can accomplish via bike. If you have a river near you, I'd 
> strongly recommend giving it a shot.
>
> Collin in Riverless Berkeley
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Texas Riv Ride Your Age Accomplished

[Ryan]

Very nice! Congratulations to all of you!

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 2:11:11 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Congratulations! Your ride certainly encourages me!
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 1:02 PM st nick  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>> There are 5 or 6 Riv owners that I'm aware of in the greater Dallas area.
>>
>> I'm sure there must be more in an area this size that I've just not met 
>> yet.
>>
>> Three of us got together yesterday , Sunday,
>> for a long ride.
>>
>> Luis is in a blue shirt Jim in a yellow one and me, Paul, in an orange 
>> one.
>>
>> Jim and Luis have Homer's and I have the orange Sam. 
>> Well, Jim actually has a total of 3 Rivs.
>>
>> Jim recently had a birthday (numero 75)
>> and proposed a ride your age ride.
>> He had never gone behind about 55 miles as I recall so it was an 
>> ambitious goal.
>>
>> I'm just a year behind Jim in age.
>> I guess we are officially geezers.
>> I had done a few rides in my cycling years of this distance so figured I 
>> could if we paced ourselves and took plenty of breaks.
>>
>> Note , none of us are speedsters.
>>
>> I told him I was in to go for the full 75 miles.
>>
>> Two other local non-Riv gents joined us and got in 40.  I think Luis 
>> wound up with 55 miles.
>> He's the youngster of the group, about 15 years younger.
>>
>> I think the temperature was mid 60's starting out at 8 AM and topped out 
>> in the low 80's so pretty good there. 
>>
>> The south wind varied from about 10 to 15 mph was a factor when riding 
>> south but tolerable enough for determined riders and we were determined, 
>> especially Jim.
>>
>> I applaud him. He hung in there and kept pedaling until my cycle computer 
>> on my Sam and my phone mileage app concurred we had 75 miles.
>>
>> We did not finish until about 6:50 PM.
>> It was a long day in the saddle.
>>
>> We did take a lunch break of 30 minutes or so and plenty of brief stops 
>> along the way to rest the legs and back sides as well as multiple photo 
>> opps.
>>
>> It was a long but very satisfying day with some great comraderie, mutual 
>> encouragement , can do attitude and even some downtime Dallas site seeing 
>> mixed in.  
>>
>> In the end there was also an immense sense of satisfaction that we had 
>> actually done it.
>> We have the sore derrières to prove it this morning.
>>
>> I asked Jim if we had bragging  rights for another year and he thought so 
>> but at our age I'm not sure how many more we can continue to 'ride our age' 
>> but I think we'll keep trying until we cannot.
>>
>> I read of amazing athletic accomplishments of folks even older than us so 
>> I know it's possible.
>>
>> Well, apologies for the long post but I hope it encourages others as they 
>> get into their 60's , 70's and beyond.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>> box_liam on Instagram 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking to buy: V brakes and levers

[NYCbikeguy]

XTR vbrakes Sold!

On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 2:15:14 AM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> I have a set of XTR BR-m951 v-brakes for sale for $50 plus shipping. 
> missing brake pads. comes with cable noodles and screws on top of what you 
> see.
>
> [image: IMG_5836.JPG]
>
>
> On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 4:41:52 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> The Yokozuna V brakes are currently 65% off at Soma, thru Sunday. I 
>> bought a pair at the last sale, they're nice enough. Seemed similar to 
>> Shimano Deore.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 6:53 PM Donzaemon  wrote:
>>
>>> You can purchase Yokozuna v-brakes and levers from Soma.  Wait till one 
>>> of their killer sales and you can get a deep discount. However, Wesley's 
>>> suggestion looks great.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 8:35:55 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
 I’m building up a vintage MTB frame. Looking for decent v brakes with 
 levers. Nothing too expensive as this is a cheap frame. Thanks. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Patrick Moore]

Blue Loctite kept a slightly undersized thinwall Syncos titanium post from
slipping (1" per 2 miles) on my 1999 Riv Road custom fixie gofast until I
replaced it with an Am Classic and then with a 7410 Dura Ace.

Blue Loctite can do most things: do your taxes, weed your garden, watch
your toddler, prepare a gourmet meal. I used it liberally on the cradle of
a Nitto 1-bolt seatpost to keep the very improperly set up saddle from
changing angle on me mid-ride.

I do agree that a new seatpost or honing are better fixes, but FWIW.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 8:20 AM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I have never snapped a binder bolt but FWIW when I had some slipping on my
> Atlantis post, my LBS spun the inside of the seat tube with a flex hone
> attachment on their drill and that helped a lot.
>
> mike in atx
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:08:28 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> I have a bad habit of snapping the original binder bolt when making
>> adjustments for fit. I just keep a bunch spares around and stash one with
>> the tools/spare tube for when I ride.
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> Redondo Beach, CA
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:53:22 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was
>>> slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced
>>> it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @Joseph -
 Thank-you.

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt
> and post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again.
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Joseph -
>>
>> I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to
>> replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a
>> Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Joseph -
 Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.

 Kim Hetzel.

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post
> actually seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it 
> for a
> Nitto.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion
>> by Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead 
>> of
>> stainless. Stronger but no galling..
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4
>> krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Danny -
>>> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I
>>> will grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates 
>>> it, as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>>
 I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.

 This is from a Riv newsletter last year:

 *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten
 them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall 
 and not
 tighten down enough unless they're greased up.*

 -Danny


 On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:

> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could
> not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>
> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well.
>
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[RBW] Re: Very belated SFR 300k ride report

[Bill Lindsay]

Good work Toshi!  

I also skipped the 400, which would have been my first, and instead went 
for a fast 200 yesterday on the Two-Rock Valley Ford route.  It was my 
first long ride on my new pink Roadeo, which was very fun

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 10:30:08 PM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote:

> About a month ago, I rode the SFR 300k event.  Prior to the 300k, I rode 
> the SFR 200k event and completed it successfully.  I hoped to add to my 
> training, but I was only able to take one ride in the weekend ~28 hilly 
> miles to supplement my 4-5 days of commuting during the week.
>
> Despite the lack of long miles, I was confident that if I stuck to my plan 
> of taking it easy on the hills and limiting my stopping time, then I could 
> have a good outcome.  
>
> The 300k route is very similar to the Russian River 200k route, except the 
> extra 100k comes from riding from the out and back from San Francisco 
> towards Fairfax-Olema.  There were a few extra km in the mostly flats 
> around Santa Rosa too.
>
> I had around a 10 hour 200k, so I was targeting a 10 + 6 hour =16 hour 
> 300k.
>
> I made my chicken sausage/egg/rice "sushi" rolls and then didn't stop at 
> all for food.  I took a couple quick bathroom breaks and a water break, but 
> the only substantial time off the bike was my two flats.
>
> Unfortunately my rear tire picked up some steel belted tire wires that 
> went through my Grand Bois Hetre tire and gave it a slow flat.  These 
> annoying metal wires can only be removed by pliers, so it is a good idea to 
> carry one in your toolkit.  I have a mini leatherman tool that I have in my 
> bike bag.
>
> --One thing I did notice was that my tire had some sidewall damage despite 
> being stored inside and the tire being relatively new.  I booted the tire 
> with a sticky park tire boot and continued on to the end without mishap.  
> I'm not sure when the tire damage happened and need to make sure to check 
> my tires before a long ride more carefully.
>
> Despite the 2 flats, I finished in about 16 hours, so overall it was a 
> good ride in that I reached my desired goal.
>
> I couldn't do the SFR 400k, which was yesterday, ending today, due to an 
> orchestra concert today.  It was a bit wet out there, so I hope everyone 
> who did it managed ok. Actually, a couple years ago I rode the 400k and 
> played in a concert the following day.  I wasn't so confident this time!
>
> Several years ago I rode a wet 400k and finished around 23 hours (brutal!) 
> and did the very stupid thing of trying to drive home without taking a 
> nap.  I caught myself falling asleep on the drive home and could have 
> killed myself.  I promise to rest before going home!
>
> I'm sure to have at least one big ride (double century or 400k) to ride 
> this year, but I have to juggle that with my crazy schedule.  Luckily my 
> daily commute is providing a good base of training for these rides.
>
> Toshi in Oakland
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Mike Packard]

I have never snapped a binder bolt but FWIW when I had some slipping on my 
Atlantis post, my LBS spun the inside of the seat tube with a flex hone 
attachment on their drill and that helped a lot. 

mike in atx 

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:08:28 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I have a bad habit of snapping the original binder bolt when making 
> adjustments for fit. I just keep a bunch spares around and stash one with 
> the tools/spare tube for when I ride.
>
> --Ed C.
> Redondo Beach, CA
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:53:22 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was 
>> slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced 
>> it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Joseph -
>>> Thank-you. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt 
 and post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. 

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> @Joseph -
>
> I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
> replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
> Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?
>
> Kim Hetzel.
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> @Joseph -
>>> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post 
 actually seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it 
 for a 
 Nitto. 

 Joe Bernard 

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:

> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion 
> by Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead 
> of 
> stainless. Stronger but no galling..
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Danny -
>> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I 
>> will grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, 
>> as 
>> well. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>>
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>>>
>>> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>>>
>>> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten 
>>> them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and 
>>> not 
>>> tighten down enough unless they're greased up.*
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>>>
 I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could 
 not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.

 I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 

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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Ed Carolipio]

I have a bad habit of snapping the original binder bolt when making 
adjustments for fit. I just keep a bunch spares around and stash one with 
the tools/spare tube for when I ride.

--Ed C.
Redondo Beach, CA

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 6:53:22 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was 
> slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced 
> it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year. 
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Joseph -
>> Thank-you. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and 
>>> post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Joseph -

 I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
 replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
 Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?

 Kim Hetzel.
 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Joseph -
>> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post 
>>> actually seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it 
>>> for a 
>>> Nitto. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>>>
 Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by 
 Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of 
 stainless. Stronger but no galling..
 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Danny -
> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
> grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as 
> well. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>
>> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>>
>> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>>
>> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten 
>> them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and 
>> not 
>> tighten down enough unless they're greased up.*
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>>
>>> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could 
>>> not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>>>
>>> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Justin Kennedy]

Same thing happened on my brand new Platypus last year. Seatpost was 
slipping and twisting and I overtightened it and snapped the bolt. Replaced 
it with a spare from my bolts tray and it hasn't slipped in almost a year. 

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:37:36 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Joseph -
> Thank-you. 
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and 
>> post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> @Joseph -
>>>
>>> I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
>>> replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
>>> Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> @Joseph -
> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
>> seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by 
>>> Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of 
>>> stainless. Stronger but no galling..
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Danny -
 Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
 grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as 
 well. 

 Kim Hetzel

 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:

> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>
> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>
> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten 
> them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and 
> not 
> tighten down enough unless they're greased up.*
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>
>> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could 
>> not get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>>
>> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
>>
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RE: [RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

[Bernard Duhon]

Ah ha.
Took my stupid pill 
There it is.

Even the product booklet does not show it.

Thanks.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 12:01 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:56:15 PM UTC-7 Bernard Duhon wrote:

Thanks,  but my fancy campy rd has no ‘B” screw.

Actually, your fancy 10-speed Chorus rear derailleur does. It's just not in the 
same location as the Shimano/SRAM ones. The Campagnolo chain tension adjustment 
screw is actually on the cage itself:

[http://www.raltech.co.uk/images/Campag1.jpg]
(image taken from http://www.raltech.co.uk/Prod_96-Inst-RMC-Campag.html)

Here's a video 
explaining how to do the adjustment, but other than the location of the screw, 
the concept is the same other than any other modern derailleur.


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[RBW] WTB: Albastache Handlebar

[Doug H.]

Hi folks,
Does anyone have an Albastache bar to sell? I want to try one on my 
Roadini. 
Doug
Athens, Ga

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