[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Rack is still available

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks ago, 
> but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>
> Link to photos  - $80 
> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>
> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>
>
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2024

[jamin orrall]

wowza, so cool.

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 4:37:35 PM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:

> this may predate Grant, i'm not sure, but here ya go--
>
> <
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/d/washington-vintage-1985-bridgestone-mb/7746151757.html
> >
>
> Vintage 1985 Bridgestone MB-2 - Substantial all terrain bike (made in 
> Japan).
> The bike is in excellent condition, fully tuned-up and ready to ride. All 
> the parts/components are stock except for the tires.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2024-05-12 at 7.35.45 PM.png]
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Pletscher Kickstand

[Doug H.]

Rivendell is out of stock on what they call the Pletscher Touring 
Kickstand. Pletscher calls it the Optima Flex. If you have one new or used 
that you'd sell please reach out.
Thanks,
Doug

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[RBW] Anyone in Bellvue, WA can help with a purchase?

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

I'm trying to buy a rare bike part and the seller won't ship. 
Anyone interested in helping out? Thanks!

Jeff in Alabama

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[RBW] Re: Photos from last weekend's overnighter

[John Rinker]

Beautiful! It never fails that I miss Japan so after seeing your photos. I 
really love the one of your Hunq among the stars.

Cheers, John

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 5:51:56 AM UTC-7 diana@gmail.com wrote:

> Awesome shots. What size tires were you running?
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 1:02:49 PM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:
>
>> That's just perfect. Thanks for sharing. 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 12:34:35 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Fantastic shots Takashi! I especially like the Starlight shot.
>>>
>>> John
>>> Portland OR
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 7:26:07 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:
>>>
 Here are some photos from last weekend's overnighter.
 I rode almost same route last year and two years ago, so I didn't take 
 many photos.

 Hunqapillar loaded up.
 For this load, I think TourSacks (rear panniers) would have worked 
 better.
 [image: ov1.jpg]

 Momosuke Bridge:
 [image: ov2.jpg]

 Short ramble around the campsite:
 [image: ov3.jpg]

 [image: ov4.jpg]

 Obligatory starlight shot:
 [image: ov5.jpg]

 The vertical line is an airplane which happened to fly over me:
 [image: ov6.jpg]

 Takashi



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[RBW] Re: East Bay Dirty Route Recs

[Stephen]

Another idea: I think you can ride fire roads down the ridge all the way to 
lake chabot

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 12:25:45 PM UTC-7 Stephen wrote:

> Hey Patch,
>
> I used to go up and ride the loop around redwood regional park, definitely 
> some challenging hills in there but I remember it being fun. I've just made 
> it out to Marin, been here a week. Would love to link up for a ride and 
> join you for a mixed terrain adventure out thataways, and itd be fun to get 
> some rides going over here if you have the time. I've got the ram here too, 
> gotta get some good road rides in out there where it aint foggy!
>
> Best,
>
> Stephen currently in Marin
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 8:25:45 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Have a look at the Routes page for the Grizzly Peak Century.  They have 
>> two gravel routes and they are right there on ridewithgps for you to follow
>>
>> https://www.grizz.org/century/routes/
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 6:07:03 PM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Looking for some ride & route recommendations in the East Bay; rides 
>>> that mix paved and unpaved roads that smartly link & loop together nice 
>>> sections, great scenery, challenging bits and chill bits. 
>>>
>>> Preferences that are in no way fixed requirements:
>>>
>>> - any length, but ideally in the 35-65 mi range (but open to longer!)
>>>
>>> - starting/ending: ideally somewhere near a BART station. 
>>>
>>> - doable with 650b x 48mm knobbies (ie not a mountain bike) 
>>>
>>> - bonus points for food/beverage related pit stop/s
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> Patch in Oakland
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: East Bay Dirty Route Recs

[Stephen]

Hey Patch,

I used to go up and ride the loop around redwood regional park, definitely 
some challenging hills in there but I remember it being fun. I've just made 
it out to Marin, been here a week. Would love to link up for a ride and 
join you for a mixed terrain adventure out thataways, and itd be fun to get 
some rides going over here if you have the time. I've got the ram here too, 
gotta get some good road rides in out there where it aint foggy!

Best,

Stephen currently in Marin

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 8:25:45 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Have a look at the Routes page for the Grizzly Peak Century.  They have 
> two gravel routes and they are right there on ridewithgps for you to follow
>
> https://www.grizz.org/century/routes/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 6:07:03 PM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Looking for some ride & route recommendations in the East Bay; rides that 
>> mix paved and unpaved roads that smartly link & loop together nice 
>> sections, great scenery, challenging bits and chill bits. 
>>
>> Preferences that are in no way fixed requirements:
>>
>> - any length, but ideally in the 35-65 mi range (but open to longer!)
>>
>> - starting/ending: ideally somewhere near a BART station. 
>>
>> - doable with 650b x 48mm knobbies (ie not a mountain bike) 
>>
>> - bonus points for food/beverage related pit stop/s
>>
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>> Patch in Oakland
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Front derailleur options for 38/24 front, 11-36 rear?

[Robert Calton]

Good question, chef. I did consider other options, including a 42T 1x setup 
like I had on my previous bicycle. When I looked at Rivendell's build 
options and other writings, they suggested the 38/24 for all-around riding 
on a variety of surfaces and if you didn't have a preference, go with that. 
My riding generally involves city pavement, slow roll group rides, rail 
trails, and only light groomed wooded trails all at party pace. I generally 
didn't pedal much downhill anyway on the last bike I had, so I figured this 
would be a good starting point. 

Good thing is, these Silver cranksets hold their value well and if I feel 
like I need something a little bigger, I can always switch down the road at 
a minimal cost :) 
On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 2:47:55 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Robert,  just wondering if you have considered a 42/28, or other 
> options for the front?
> I have been running a Silver 38/24 with a chainguard on my All-Rounder for 
> the past year or so, and I'm planning on converting to a triple, swapping 
> out the guard for a third, 46T ring. I found the smaller design of the 
> crank to be frustrating ...even on level ground, I'll be pushing the limit. 
> Downhills are only for coasting. That said, the smallest ring of the 
> freewheel has 13T.
> When I built my Homer, I went with a VO 46/30 compact double. So far, so 
> good!
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 4:52:00 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:
>
>> To add another data point:
>>
>> I've been using the Shimano Sora FD on my Appaloosa.
>> It shifts a 42-24 front mated to a 12-36 rear flawlessly. In friction, of 
>> course.
>> Really, the shifting is amazing coming from the indexed FD on my other 
>> bike.
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_1702 2.jpeg]
>>
>> On Sunday 12 May 2024 at 04:05:30 UTC+9:30 nca...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon group! :) Hoping to tap into the collective wisdom here 
>>> to pick a front derailleur for my Homer build, it's the last piece! 
>>>
>>> I'll be using the Silver 38/24 crankset, 11-36 cassette with the Shimano 
>>> Deore XT M761 rear derailleur. I saw that the matching XT front says it's 
>>> for a triple chainring, so I need to find something that's for a double. 
>>>
>>> What would folks recommend? 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Valerie Yates]

Leah- love it! When you buy used, you can pretty much break-even on the 
subsequent resale. It is just a matter of timing liquidity. And you could 
possibly transfer parts over to the new frame, if you like the set-up, and 
sell just the frame. Or decide that lugs aren't crucial. Many possible 
outcomes. Eager to see how it all plays out. 

Doug - love the grips. I saw that demo too but never tried it. Yours look 
terrific. Very striking and fun. 

Sarah - glad you enjoyed the pics.😁

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Valerie, I’m going to take your formula and apply it. I’m looking for the 
> used 50 Roadini and if anyone sees one first ,will ya send it my way? And 
> then maybe this fall I end up with the lugged and sell the TIG’d. I don’t 
> know! It’s an adventure! I plan to be impulsive! Not money-savvy! A real 
> handful! 🤩 
>
> Join me,
> Leah
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:50:30 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky smooth. 
>> Entirely 
>> comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. Which is why I was able 
>> to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best life. 
>>
>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it 
>> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up, 
>> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is 
>> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a 
>>> road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky 
>>> to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the 
>>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires 
>>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise 
>>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>>
>>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my 
>>> bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused 
>>> about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their 
>>> expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the 
>>> Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean 
>>> while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that 
>>> I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture 
>>> promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)
>>>
>>> Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your 
>>> commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a 
>>> Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to 
>>> your hella colorful collection
>>>
>>> -Brent in chicago
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is SO fun. 

 Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your 
 answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you 
 were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope 
 we 
 get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the 
 Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated 
 model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for. 
 That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a 
 great 
 choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the 
 used 
 market? So far there have been none to be found…
 L

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Me either!
>
> I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!
>
> All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom 
> currently on offer at a very reasonable price…
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:
>
> Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely 
> irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing 
> in 
> that picture says go-fast club rides to me. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels, 
>> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike, 
>> without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv:
>>
>> [image: IMG_6222]
>>
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three 
>> shown in

Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Jason Fuller]

Planned impulsivity, I like it. That's a very sound plan in my opinion
because you can likely score a TIG Roadini for a good price, and all the
parts would swap over to either a lugged Roadini if you love it, or a CHG
if you think you want something longer.  I know you're not trying to be,
but I think you're being very practical here!



On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 10:44 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Valerie, I’m going to take your formula and apply it. I’m looking for the
> used 50 Roadini and if anyone sees one first ,will ya send it my way? And
> then maybe this fall I end up with the lugged and sell the TIG’d. I don’t
> know! It’s an adventure! I plan to be impulsive! Not money-savvy! A real
> handful! 🤩
>
> Join me,
> Leah
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:50:30 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky smooth. 
>> Entirely
>> comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. Which is why I was able
>> to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best life.
>>
>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it
>> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up,
>> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is
>> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a
>>> road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky
>>> to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the
>>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires
>>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise
>>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>>
>>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my
>>> bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused
>>> about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their
>>> expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the
>>> Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean
>>> while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that
>>> I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture
>>> promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)
>>>
>>> Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your
>>> commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a
>>> Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to
>>> your hella colorful collection
>>>
>>> -Brent in chicago
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is SO fun.

 Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your
 answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you
 were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope we
 get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the
 Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated
 model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for.
 That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a great
 choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the used
 market? So far there have been none to be found…
 L

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Me either!
>
> I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!
>
> All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom
> currently on offer at a very reasonable price…
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:
>
> Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely
> irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing in
> that picture says go-fast club rides to me.
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels,
>> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike,
>> without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv:
>>
>> [image: IMG_6222]
>>
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three
>> shown in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike
>> and the CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also
>> indicative of its purpose and ride quality, which I'm sure

[RBW] Re: Front derailleur options for 38/24 front, 11-36 rear?

[Stephen Durfee]

Hi Robert,  just wondering if you have considered a 42/28, or other options 
for the front?
I have been running a Silver 38/24 with a chainguard on my All-Rounder for 
the past year or so, and I'm planning on converting to a triple, swapping 
out the guard for a third, 46T ring. I found the smaller design of the 
crank to be frustrating ...even on level ground, I'll be pushing the limit. 
Downhills are only for coasting. That said, the smallest ring of the 
freewheel has 13T.
When I built my Homer, I went with a VO 46/30 compact double. So far, so 
good!

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 4:52:00 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:

> To add another data point:
>
> I've been using the Shimano Sora FD on my Appaloosa.
> It shifts a 42-24 front mated to a 12-36 rear flawlessly. In friction, of 
> course.
> Really, the shifting is amazing coming from the indexed FD on my other 
> bike.
>
>
> [image: IMG_1702 2.jpeg]
>
> On Sunday 12 May 2024 at 04:05:30 UTC+9:30 nca...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon group! :) Hoping to tap into the collective wisdom here to 
>> pick a front derailleur for my Homer build, it's the last piece! 
>>
>> I'll be using the Silver 38/24 crankset, 11-36 cassette with the Shimano 
>> Deore XT M761 rear derailleur. I saw that the matching XT front says it's 
>> for a triple chainring, so I need to find something that's for a double. 
>>
>> What would folks recommend? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Droptube Rivendell Custom 54cm

[Joe Bernard]

Smarter, yes. Will it work? Doubtful. I think I need more cash to let it go 
than folks are willing to spend. This whole project looks to be winding 
down soon and I'm ok with it 🤷

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 10:41:21 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Sounds like a smarter idea...then buyer can configure the frame as desired 
> and parting out can maybe recover more of your costs...good luck with the 
> sale!
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Frameset with headset, BB and Nitto post, $3k plus shipping. 
>>
>> I can use the fancy wheels on my Clem and part out some stuff, plus a 
>> frame is much easier to pack than a complete bike with Boscos. Would rather 
>> not! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>> Clearlake CA 
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:05:13 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Just so's y'all know, I rode the motorbikes for decades. I got a 
>>> refresher course and decided to give it another whirl. It will be a used 
>>> bike, maybe a Harley Sportster, this is HOG country up here. The point of 
>>> the thread is to sell a bicycle! 😁
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-7 Mark R. wrote:
>>>

 Motorcycles are addicting. I’ve been riding street since 1989 to get 
 around town, it was safer to commute at night than
 my bicycle.  My opinion is to buy a used smaller bike, see how it 
 feels, before you sink money into it

 I got rid of one bike because it was too slow and loud. The next 
 because it was too tall and I had trouble reaching the
 ground at lights. Then I found the Perfect fit for me and put 40k miles 
 on that Moto.
 As it stands , I hardly ever use my car (about 2k miles since 2019) . I 
 put 22k one bike and 2k on another till last year.
 This year I’m on track to 10k, this bike is new and fresh with all the 
 latest safety features. 
 Mark R
 SDCA 




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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Valerie, I’m going to take your formula and apply it. I’m looking for the 
used 50 Roadini and if anyone sees one first ,will ya send it my way? And 
then maybe this fall I end up with the lugged and sell the TIG’d. I don’t 
know! It’s an adventure! I plan to be impulsive! Not money-savvy! A real 
handful! 🤩 

Join me,
Leah

On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:50:30 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky smooth. 
> Entirely 
> comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. Which is why I was able 
> to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best life. 
>
> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it 
> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up, 
> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is 
> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁 
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>
>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a 
>> road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky 
>> to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the 
>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires 
>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise 
>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>
>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my 
>> bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused 
>> about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their 
>> expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the 
>> Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean 
>> while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that 
>> I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture 
>> promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)
>>
>> Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your 
>> commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a 
>> Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to 
>> your hella colorful collection
>>
>> -Brent in chicago
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is SO fun. 
>>>
>>> Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your 
>>> answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you 
>>> were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope we 
>>> get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the 
>>> Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated 
>>> model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for. 
>>> That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a great 
>>> choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the used 
>>> market? So far there have been none to be found…
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Me either!

 I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!

 All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom 
 currently on offer at a very reasonable price…

 P. W.
 ~
 (917) 514-2207
 ~




 On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:

 Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely 
 irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing in 
 that picture says go-fast club rides to me. 



 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels, 
> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike, 
> without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv:
>
> [image: IMG_6222]
>
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three 
> shown in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike 
> and the CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also 
> indicative of its purpose and ride quality, which I'm sure lands squarely 
> in between also! 
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:15 PM Valerie Yates  
> wrote:
>
> I've made an album with pics of my Roadeo, CHG, and Susie. Link to 
>> album .  The album 
>> includes a poor quality picture of the Gallop with the albastache bars 
>> that 
>> were on it when it arrived.
>>
>> Leah - the drop from Will's saddle to bars was an intentional choice. 
>> He chose a smaller frame with a rai

[RBW] Re: FS: Droptube Rivendell Custom 54cm

[Ryan]

Sounds like a smarter idea...then buyer can configure the frame as desired 
and parting out can maybe recover more of your costs...good luck with the 
sale!

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:08:56 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Frameset with headset, BB and Nitto post, $3k plus shipping. 
>
> I can use the fancy wheels on my Clem and part out some stuff, plus a 
> frame is much easier to pack than a complete bike with Boscos. Would rather 
> not! 
>
> Joe Bernard 
> Clearlake CA 
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:05:13 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Just so's y'all know, I rode the motorbikes for decades. I got a 
>> refresher course and decided to give it another whirl. It will be a used 
>> bike, maybe a Harley Sportster, this is HOG country up here. The point of 
>> the thread is to sell a bicycle! 😁
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-7 Mark R. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Motorcycles are addicting. I’ve been riding street since 1989 to get 
>>> around town, it was safer to commute at night than
>>> my bicycle.  My opinion is to buy a used smaller bike, see how it feels, 
>>> before you sink money into it
>>>
>>> I got rid of one bike because it was too slow and loud. The next because 
>>> it was too tall and I had trouble reaching the
>>> ground at lights. Then I found the Perfect fit for me and put 40k miles 
>>> on that Moto.
>>> As it stands , I hardly ever use my car (about 2k miles since 2019) . I 
>>> put 22k one bike and 2k on another till last year.
>>> This year I’m on track to 10k, this bike is new and fresh with all the 
>>> latest safety features. 
>>> Mark R
>>> SDCA 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Droptube Rivendell Custom 54cm

[Joe Bernard]

Frameset with headset, BB and Nitto post, $3k plus shipping. 

I can use the fancy wheels on my Clem and part out some stuff, plus a frame 
is much easier to pack than a complete bike with Boscos. Would rather not! 

Joe Bernard 
Clearlake CA 

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:05:13 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Just so's y'all know, I rode the motorbikes for decades. I got a refresher 
> course and decided to give it another whirl. It will be a used bike, maybe 
> a Harley Sportster, this is HOG country up here. The point of the thread is 
> to sell a bicycle! 😁
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:00:14 PM UTC-7 Mark R. wrote:
>
>>
>> Motorcycles are addicting. I’ve been riding street since 1989 to get 
>> around town, it was safer to commute at night than
>> my bicycle.  My opinion is to buy a used smaller bike, see how it feels, 
>> before you sink money into it
>>
>> I got rid of one bike because it was too slow and loud. The next because 
>> it was too tall and I had trouble reaching the
>> ground at lights. Then I found the Perfect fit for me and put 40k miles 
>> on that Moto.
>> As it stands , I hardly ever use my car (about 2k miles since 2019) . I 
>> put 22k one bike and 2k on another till last year.
>> This year I’m on track to 10k, this bike is new and fresh with all the 
>> latest safety features. 
>> Mark R
>> SDCA 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: East Bay Dirty Route Recs

[Bill Lindsay]

Have a look at the Routes page for the Grizzly Peak Century.  They have two 
gravel routes and they are right there on ridewithgps for you to follow

https://www.grizz.org/century/routes/

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 6:07:03 PM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Looking for some ride & route recommendations in the East Bay; rides that 
> mix paved and unpaved roads that smartly link & loop together nice 
> sections, great scenery, challenging bits and chill bits. 
>
> Preferences that are in no way fixed requirements:
>
> - any length, but ideally in the 35-65 mi range (but open to longer!)
>
> - starting/ending: ideally somewhere near a BART station. 
>
> - doable with 650b x 48mm knobbies (ie not a mountain bike) 
>
> - bonus points for food/beverage related pit stop/s
>
>
> Thanks so much!
> Patch in Oakland
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Nitto Stems, Honjo, B17 Ti, Rons Bikes, Rene Herse, Paul, Tubus, & More

[Armand Kizirian]

Updates listed below with some price drops too. Plus the addition of TWO 
more pairs of Rene Herse tires: 

New additions: 

   - Rene Herse Hatcher Pass 700x48 Extralight Tires (skinwall) - About 50 
   miles on road, 15 miles on dirt. Excellent condition with 95% life left. I 
   LOVE these tires but going with knobbies! - $150 shipped 
   - Rene Herse Switchback Hills 650x48 Standard Tires (skinwall) - These 
   have seen plenty of use, I would say they have about 40% life left. One 
   large screw puncture last year, never presented a problem (never ran 
   tubeless). Tires rotated frequently so very even wear between both. - $75 
   shipped  
   
*Updates Below: *Pics Here. 

 *Prices 
include shipping. *Slight discounts for multiple parts. DM me privately. 

   - Nitto Tallux 25.5 - 90mm - New - SOLD
   - Nitto Tig Faceplater 110mm 25.4 - NLA 225mm quill - New - SOLD 
   - Nitto Stem Spreading Tool #4 - Used once - $35
   - Rene Herse Switchback Hill - 650 x 48mm extralight, black pair - New 
   in sealed bag - $175
   - Honjo Turtle 63 Polished Fenders 700c - New - $125
   - Rons Bikes Fanny - Black X50 - Lightly used, waist strap is cut off, 
   bar/saddle bag use only - $110* - Pending, still encourage to contact*
   - Brooks B17 Titanium - Black -  SOLD 
   - Rivendell Complete 26.8mm Seatpost (new take-off from Platypus) - $45
   - Nitto EC-02 Gold Bar End Plugs ( 15.5-17.5mm inner diameter ) - New -  
   SOLD 
   - Paul Gino Polished Light Mount - New - $30 ($53 new for polished 
   version)
   - Tubus Vega Evo Rear Rack (not pictured) - Black - New - $100
   - Tubus Airy Titanium Rear Rack - New - $350 (Expensive because I want 
   to keep it) 
   
With purchase of any items above: 

   - Dia Compe canti cable hangar - I think never used - $10
   - Newbaums tape - x2 teal x1 gray - $10
   - Shimano BB-UN300 118mm bottom bracket - new take-off - $10 
   - ESI Chunky Grips - Green - New - $15
   - Giro merino wool t-shirt jersey - Size medium w/ holes - $15
   - Pletscher Edge Kickstand - $20

Potential Trades: 

   - Nitto 90-190 Faceplater Stems - 25.4 - 135mm 
   - Nitto Wavie or KT Bar
   - Rons Bikes or Similar Bar/Saddle Bags in lightweight fabric
   - Oracle Ridge Endurance Tires 


On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:15:12 PM UTC-7 Armand Kizirian wrote:

> Platypus is done done and last bits for sale! Ride report and build thread 
> coming soon :) 
>
> Pics Here. 
> 
>  
> Prices include shipping. Slight discounts for multiple parts. DM me 
> privately. 
>
>- Nitto Tallux 25.5 - 90mm - New - $75
>- Nitto Tig Faceplater 110mm 25.4 - NLA 225mm quill - New - $100
>- Nitto Stem Spreading Tool #4 - Used once - $35
>- Rene Herse Switchback Hill - 650 x 48mm extralight, black pair - New 
>in bag - $175
>- Honjo Turtle 63 Polished Fenders 700c - New - $125
>- Rons Bikes Fanny - Black X50 - Lightly used, waist strap is cut off, 
>bar/saddle bag use only - $110 
>- Brooks B17 Titanium - Black - Not the original owner, in good shape, 
>looks to be in the earlier stages of being broken in (selling cause I have 
>2 ;) - $150
>- Rivendell Complete 26.8mm Seatpost (new take-off from Platypus) - $45
>- Nitto EC-02 Gold Bar End Plugs ( 15.5-17.5mm inner diameter ) - New 
>- $20
>- Paul Gino Polished Light Mount - New - $30 ($53 new for polished 
>version)
>- Tubus Vega Evo Rear Rack (not pictured) - Black - New - $100
>- Tubus Airy Titanium Rear Rack - New - $350 (Expensive because I want 
>to keep it) 
>
> With purchase of any items above: 
>
>- Dia Compe canti cable hangar - I think never used - $10
>- Newbaums tape - x2 teal x1 gray - $10
>- Shimano BB-UN300 118mm bottom bracket - new take-off - $10 
>- ESI Chunky Grips - Green - New - $18
>- Giro merino wool t-shirt jersey - Size medium w/ holes - $15
>- Pletscher Edge Kickstand - $20
>
> Potential Trades: 
>
>- Nitto 90-190 Faceplater Stems - 25.4-31.8 - 110-135mm 
>- Nitto Wavie Bar 
>- Rons Bikes or Similar Bar/Saddle Bags in lightweight fabric
>- Oracle Ridge Endurance Tires 
>
> Thank you very much and happy riding! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: East Bay Dirty Route Recs

[Sarah Carlson]

Hey there!

You have lots options and an easy to get to fun one is Wildcat canyon. You 
can get off at Del Norte BART and go a little ways on the Ohlone Greenway 
before taking some streets to connect up with Wildcat Canyon (sorry I can't 
fill in the gaps on that one, this is where we need google maps to help. OR 
you can get out at N, Berkeley BART and ride the Greenway out past Del 
Norte BART and do the same thing. You can either out and back or make it a 
loop, exit the park after the Little farm (last little bit is no bikes so 
don't run over little children) go up up up Canon, and then you can take a 
nice descent down Spruce to Los Angeles, connect with Marin and back to the 
Greenway and BART. That's a bit less miles but you can make it more once 
you are up in Tilden. 

Sarah

On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 6:07:03 PM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Looking for some ride & route recommendations in the East Bay; rides that 
> mix paved and unpaved roads that smartly link & loop together nice 
> sections, great scenery, challenging bits and chill bits. 
>
> Preferences that are in no way fixed requirements:
>
> - any length, but ideally in the 35-65 mi range (but open to longer!)
>
> - starting/ending: ideally somewhere near a BART station. 
>
> - doable with 650b x 48mm knobbies (ie not a mountain bike) 
>
> - bonus points for food/beverage related pit stop/s
>
>
> Thanks so much!
> Patch in Oakland
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Sarah Carlson]

Oh wow Valerie! These photos were a treat to wake up to on mother's day, 
thanks for sharing!

Slowly we are all getting more information on what this mysterious CHG bike 
is and I'm glad this thread is here for it.

Sarah

On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 9:45:40 PM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Doug - nice looking bike! Sharp and sleek. I love albatross bars. Can we 
> see a close up of your grips? Have you posted about them previously? They 
> look great.
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 3:07:34 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> This is a fun thread to follow. Valerie your stable of bikes is so nice! 
>> And, I enjoy reading your posts as it's obvious you have so much knowledge 
>> to offer. Keep it coming. I just recently bought a Roadini after selling my 
>> beloved Clem Smith Jr. I wanted a bicycle more suited for road riding and 
>> the Roadini has proven to be just that. I did set it up with Albatross bars 
>> for a more upright position. I don't ride in groups so can't say with 
>> experience that the Roadini is suited for that endeavor. But, I would say 
>> that it is without much reservation.
>>
>> [image: IMG_0998.JPEG]
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:50:30 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky 
>>> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. 
>>> Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best 
>>> life. 
>>>
>>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it 
>>> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up, 
>>> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is 
>>> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a 
 road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was 
 lucky 
 to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the 
 befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires 
 and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a 
 surprise 
 midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride

 anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my 
 bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem 
 confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet 
 their expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the 
 Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean 
 while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that 
 I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture 
 promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)

 Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your 
 commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a 
 Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to 
 your hella colorful collection

 -Brent in chicago

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> This is SO fun. 
>
> Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your 
> answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you 
> were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope 
> we 
> get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the 
> Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated 
> model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for. 
> That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a 
> great 
> choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the 
> used 
> market? So far there have been none to be found…
> L
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Me either!
>>
>> I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!
>>
>> All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom 
>> currently on offer at a very reasonable price…
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>> Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely 
>> irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing 
>> in 
>> that picture says go-fast club rides to me. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels, 
>>> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike

[RBW] Re: Photos from last weekend's overnighter

[Diana H]

Awesome shots. What size tires were you running?

On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 1:02:49 PM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:

> That's just perfect. Thanks for sharing. 
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 12:34:35 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Fantastic shots Takashi! I especially like the Starlight shot.
>>
>> John
>> Portland OR
>>
>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 7:26:07 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some photos from last weekend's overnighter.
>>> I rode almost same route last year and two years ago, so I didn't take 
>>> many photos.
>>>
>>> Hunqapillar loaded up.
>>> For this load, I think TourSacks (rear panniers) would have worked 
>>> better.
>>> [image: ov1.jpg]
>>>
>>> Momosuke Bridge:
>>> [image: ov2.jpg]
>>>
>>> Short ramble around the campsite:
>>> [image: ov3.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: ov4.jpg]
>>>
>>> Obligatory starlight shot:
>>> [image: ov5.jpg]
>>>
>>> The vertical line is an airplane which happened to fly over me:
>>> [image: ov6.jpg]
>>>
>>> Takashi
>>>
>>>

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