[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Tallux (7cm, 26mm), Nitto S83 Seatpost, and Riv Cork Grips

[Sean B.]

Whoops, thanks Kai! I mistyped. It's an S84 Nitto Lugged seatpost. 

Kim, the seatpost is  27.2 x 250 

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 8:42:41 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Sean,
>
> What is the S83 seat post diameter ?
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:36:25 PM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> That’s an s84! Steel! Real! 
>> It’s considered as nicer than the s83 by most of the fine folks around 
>> here, so there, happy sales..
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 3:44:36 PM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Selling my Nitto seatpost, stem, and cork grips
>>>
>>> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
>>> S83 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped
>>> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - $30 shipped
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Tallux (7cm, 26mm), Nitto S83 Seatpost, and Riv Cork Grips

[Kim H.]

@Sean,

What is the S83 seat post diameter ?

Kim Hetzel. 

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:36:25 PM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> That’s an s84! Steel! Real! 
> It’s considered as nicer than the s83 by most of the fine folks around 
> here, so there, happy sales..
> -Kai
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 3:44:36 PM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Selling my Nitto seatpost, stem, and cork grips
>>
>> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
>> S83 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped
>> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - $30 shipped
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: 1972 CILO Sprintx road bike frameset and Phil Wood BB, retainer rings and tool

[Kim H.]

 I have for sale a 1972 Cilo Sprintx (Swiss made) road bike frameset.  I 
have had it since I  bought it new in late 1973. It was main road bike for 
nearly 40 years. I have parted out the componenry and wheels.

Conditon: good with some beausage

The frame size is 57cm C-T-C or 22.75”.
Seat post diameter: 26.8mm

The Stand over height is 81.59cm or 32 1/8” with 700C wheels and 32mm tires.

My PBH is 80.1 cm = 31.1”.

I have a long torso with short legs.

This bike did fit me very well..It rode and handled like that of an 
European sports car; fast and very nimble.

Wheelbase from C/C - 41"

Reynolds 531 tubing and forks/stays.

BCM (Bocama) lugs and fork crown.

Campagnolo forged drop outs front and rear.

Custom added three water bottles cage mounts on the frame and down tube 
cable housing stops.

Old school spacing: 100/120mm

Headset: French threaded Campagnolo Nouvo Record
BB: 35x1 Swiss threaded
( A Swiss threaded bottom bracket uses the same basic dimensions and thread 
specifications as French but uses reverse-threading for the drive side)

The black paint job is not of the original color. It is a repaint. It was 
originally silver.

https://bikeindex.org/bikes/61636

Serial Number#: 72876 - ‘72’ representing 1972. It was also made in August 
(8), and was the 76th (76) frame of that race type made in August.

I will include in the sale the Phil Wood JIS 68mm x 119mm square tapered 
asymmetric BB and Swiss threaded retainer rings and a Phil Wood shop tool.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2bCDRXLwZWK2dQwLA

https://photos.app.goo.gl/f9RktCW9jKxeVfhZ9

Unfortunately, I misplaced the portable BB cup tool.

$100.00, plus shipping in the CONUS
Paypal payment please.

If you interested in purchasing the Cilo frameset with the Phil Wood BB, 
retainer rings and tool, I would offer splitting the shipping costs with 
you.

Kim Hetzel. 

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Tallux (7cm, 26mm), Nitto S83 Seatpost, and Riv Cork Grips

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That’s an s84! Steel! Real! 
It’s considered as nicer than the s83 by most of the fine folks around 
here, so there, happy sales..
-Kai

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 3:44:36 PM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Selling my Nitto seatpost, stem, and cork grips
>
> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
> S83 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped
> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - $30 shipped
>

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[RBW] Re: My dream "forever bike" is finally done -- thanks to this group!

[Bill Lindsay]

Hilsen Blue is such a classic.  Enjoy it.  But don't be shocked if you find 
yourself wanting another "forever bike" to keep this one company and 
complement the stable!  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 12:21:25 PM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote:

> Thank you peech, I've had no issues with knee-strikes on the bars. The 
> stem I believe is 11cm and the slack seat tube angle helps. I spoke with 
> Riv when I was deciding stem length and they recommend folks go at least 
> 10cm if they're going to run albatross bars. 
>
> I also don't really pedal around *really* tight turns anyway. There's a 
> switchback on a path that we take and it's not been a problem there. 
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 3:15:58 PM UTC-4 peec...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Very nice.  With the albatross bars have you had issues with your knee 
>> striking the bar end on tight turns?  
>>
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Robert, 
>>>
>>> Wow, what a beauty you've built up! I love your 'smiles to miles' 
>>> metric, and I'm sure you'll find that will remain consistent throughout 
>>> your life with this bike. Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:55:35 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Congrats Robert! That's a beautiful bike!

 On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:

> Not pictured is a Baggins bag strapped to the saddle hooks. It fits 
> everything I need it to: phone, keys, wallet, repair kit, snack, 
> medicine. 
> :) 
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>
>> A few months back, I set out to build my do-it-all dream bike and I 
>> did. I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out and it is truly a joy 
>> to 
>> ride: it's the most comfortable and buttery smooth bicycle I've ever 
>> ridden. Smiles per mile is super high. Many thanks to this lovely group 
>> for 
>> all the advice and conversation. Build below.
>> [image: ahpm2fo1kpbd1.jpeg]
>> *Frame:* Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm.
>> *Wheelset: *Velocity Atlas rims, 32h White Industries MI5 front and 
>> rear hubs laced with DT Swiss Competition DB spokes
>> *Tires: *Panaracer Gravelking 700x43c
>> *Brakes:* Paul Racer, Kool-Stop pads
>> *Brake Levers: *Paul cantilever
>> *Bars:* Nitto Albatross
>> *Grips: *Meisha’s Portuguese tree cork
>> *Tape: *Tanglefoot “Aunt Ronnie’s Recliner”
>> *Stem: *Nitto lugged
>> *Shifters: *Shimano Dura Ace bar ends (friction F/R)
>> *Derailers: *Shimano Dura Ace EA100 (FD), Shimano Deore XT M761 (RD)
>> *Crankset: *Silver 38/24 (170mm)
>> *Pedals: *MKS Lambda Cassette: Shimano HG400, 9-speed (11-36T)
>> *Seat post: *Nitto lugged
>> *Bottle Cage: *Nitto R
>> *Saddle: *Brooks B68
>> *Kickstand: *Of course
>>
>> Shoutout and good vibes to Third Wheel Bikes 
>>  for the assembly.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Going from 2x9 to 3x9 - FD Selection

[Drew Saunders]

I have a 26-42-guard New Albion setup, and although the 16 tooth shift is 
huge, it's pretty manageable if I'm not in a hurry. Maybe you just need a 
new "middle" ring and chainguard? It's also possible your chainguard is big 
enough for a 42. Going from 38 to 42 is about the same as changing 1t in 
the back for the higher gears (i.e.: a 42x11 would be like getting a 10t 
high gear with your 38), so is pretty noticeable. That would give you a 1x 
plus bailout, and you'll probably use the 42 for about 90% of your riding. 
How often do you use the 26x34? If rarely or never, I'm sure there are 
11-32 or 11-28 cassettes that will work.

On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 8:58:53 AM UTC-7 wong.d...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> After writing that note I started thinking the same thing - what exactly 
> is the problem I am trying to solve.  (Other than becoming obsessed with 
> tinkering and "upgrading.")  In my mind I was thinking that I want to 
> expand the range of the 9 speed.  On the big chainring, I find that the I 
> seldom use the 3 largest cogs because I do spin out.  Maybe going to a 1x 
> would fix that "problem."  You've got me second guessing myself.  LOL.  
>
> Really do appreciate the thoughtful response, 
>
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 8:11:26 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I think it could be really useful to the group, and maybe to you, if you 
>> could describe what problem you are looking to solve.  
>>
>> The implication is that you have decided you need higher gearing, because 
>> you ride too fast for the gearing that is on the Clem.  Depending on what 
>> tires you are running, the 38x11 highest gear on the bike now should be 
>> plenty to pedal well above 30MPH, but is not high enough to pedal up to 
>> 40MPH and beyond.  Is that the problem?  You spend too much time >30MPH and 
>> can't pedal at all when you are going >40MPH and need the gearing to keep 
>> up with your riding?  That's a valid use case, but many would consider that 
>> an odd use case for a Clem.  That's more like a Roaduno use case.  
>>
>> You say that you spin out on most of the cogs when you are in the 26. 
>>  Have you decided you don't need the 26?  Have you considered moving from 
>> 26/38 up to 32/44?  Then you wouldn't need a front derailleur.  Have you 
>> considered going from 26/38 to a 40T 1x?  Then you could sell your front 
>> derailleur and you wouldn't need one at all.  
>>
>> Removing a chain guard and adding a third ring can be complicated because 
>> of the shift from the 38 to the big ring.  Most triple front derailleurs 
>> are set up for jumps that are closer to equal.  Have a look at the Silver 
>> Triple on the rivbike website.  It's 24/34/44, nice 10 tooth jumps at each 
>> step.  26/38/44 with that 6-tooth jump could interfere with some front 
>> derailleur cage designs.  That's more like an old-school half-step setup.  
>>
>> The point is that a bicycle has a lot of interdependencies.  You think 
>> you are changing one little thing, but it influences other things. 
>>  Planning a solution is good, but it should be to address a well-defined 
>> problem.  What problem are you trying to solve?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 6:06:56 PM UTC-7 wong.d...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I currently have a 2x9 with a 26/38 crank (Silver brand) and a 11/34 
>>> cassette on my Rivendell Clem Smith Jr - H.
>>>
>>> I want to add a third/outer chainring (maybe a 44 or 46), which can be 
>>> done by replacing the Silver bashguard with an outer chainring.
>>>
>>> I am shopping for a replacement front derailleur (either a Shimano XT 
>>> M771 or XTR M971) because I don’t think my Claris FD is capable of a 3x.
>>>
>>> I am looking at the specs of both FDs.
>>>
>>> The “Front Chainwheel Tooth Difference” is 20T/22T for the XTR and 18T 
>>> for the XT
>>>
>>> The “Min. difference between top and intermediate” is 12T for the XTR 
>>> and 10T for the XT
>>>
>>> How closely do I need to meet these two requirements?  If I get a 46T, I 
>>> don’t meet the Shimano specs.  The Front Chainwheel Difference is 20T and 
>>> the Min Difference between the top and intermediate is 8T.   Will either FD 
>>> work?  I wanted to save money by leaving the 26/28 alone.
>>>
>>> On a side note, I don’t plan to use the smallest chaining (26T) very 
>>> often (if ever) as I basically spinout for most of the 9 cogs.  
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day!

[ascpgh]

I love the details. When you look deeper you see all the things that were 
deliberate choices and each of them has a reason behind why that part 
instead of another. It's an evolution of your cycling in its details.

I said the same to Leah when she unveiled her little pony. Building a bike 
is telling a story about your path in bicycling. Your experiences shaped 
the choices and it's rewarding when you look at a part and it triggers all 
the memories of previous parts and bikes and rides that brought you to this 
component.  

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-4 watta...@gmail.com wrote:

> I made the pilgrimage to Walnut Creek via Bart yesterday, my Sam was 
> waiting for me. I thought it would be romantic to ride home and get a 
> proper feel for my first Rivendell...and it WAS. Roman is a pleasure to 
> work with and he showed me some details of the bike. I didn't know this but 
> they give you some swag too:patch kit, allen tool, bandana, the new 
> seatpost diam. stickers etc...fun!
>
>
> Build details: I bought the Sam Hillborne to replace a Crust Romanceur and 
> moved most of the parts over. The low trail handling of the Romanceur did 
> not sit well with me, felt too unstable and quick descents felt borderline 
> dangerous requiring both hands on bars. I did need 700c wheels so I kept 
> with the Velocity Quills in case I go tubeless again. 
> *Hub sound is important to me, I have a White T11 that is very loud (too 
> loud for me) and would make sense (to me) on a proper road bike. But the 
> Sam (and the Crust) is my do most things bike, including low speed 
> neighborhood runs with my kids, errands, etc. A loud hub is a conversation 
> non-starter in these situations. I visited RBW earlier and really liked the 
> stock Velocity hub, louder than Deore but still quiet-ish, a classy sound 
> imo. Rich used one word to describe the Silvr hub.LOUD. I also have the 
> Velocity dynamo hub which Rich says is the same as the Kasai (which isn't 
> in stock atm.
> *Son light, paul cantis, White VBC cranks (44x30) albatross bars, a new 
> RBW front rack etc.
> Bike thoughts: Only 20 miles with some hills into it but I love the 
> stability! That was my main reason for selling the Crust and I love how the 
> Sam handles. With sweep back bars the handling can become too light but I 
> was able to ride hands free down small hills which I would never try on the 
> low trail Crust. YAY!! I will fine tune bar height; the stem is a Tallux 12 
> which is an error, we had decided on the 90-190 so Roman will have that 
> switched next week. I will try to post pics here but if not I will reply 
> with pics.
>
> I may change the eggplant bartape to olive or navy or grey. I'm open to 
> suggestions!
>
> I'm looking forward to more time on the bike, thanks for reading!
> Brian
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My dream "forever bike" is finally done -- thanks to this group!

[Robert Calton]

Thank you peech, I've had no issues with knee-strikes on the bars. The stem 
I believe is 11cm and the slack seat tube angle helps. I spoke with Riv 
when I was deciding stem length and they recommend folks go at least 10cm 
if they're going to run albatross bars. 

I also don't really pedal around *really* tight turns anyway. There's a 
switchback on a path that we take and it's not been a problem there. 

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 3:15:58 PM UTC-4 peech1...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Very nice.  With the albatross bars have you had issues with your knee 
> striking the bar end on tight turns?  
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Robert, 
>>
>> Wow, what a beauty you've built up! I love your 'smiles to miles' metric, 
>> and I'm sure you'll find that will remain consistent throughout your life 
>> with this bike. Enjoy!
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:55:35 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats Robert! That's a beautiful bike!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>>>
 Not pictured is a Baggins bag strapped to the saddle hooks. It fits 
 everything I need it to: phone, keys, wallet, repair kit, snack, medicine. 
 :) 
 On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:

> A few months back, I set out to build my do-it-all dream bike and I 
> did. I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out and it is truly a joy 
> to 
> ride: it's the most comfortable and buttery smooth bicycle I've ever 
> ridden. Smiles per mile is super high. Many thanks to this lovely group 
> for 
> all the advice and conversation. Build below.
> [image: ahpm2fo1kpbd1.jpeg]
> *Frame:* Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm.
> *Wheelset: *Velocity Atlas rims, 32h White Industries MI5 front and 
> rear hubs laced with DT Swiss Competition DB spokes
> *Tires: *Panaracer Gravelking 700x43c
> *Brakes:* Paul Racer, Kool-Stop pads
> *Brake Levers: *Paul cantilever
> *Bars:* Nitto Albatross
> *Grips: *Meisha’s Portuguese tree cork
> *Tape: *Tanglefoot “Aunt Ronnie’s Recliner”
> *Stem: *Nitto lugged
> *Shifters: *Shimano Dura Ace bar ends (friction F/R)
> *Derailers: *Shimano Dura Ace EA100 (FD), Shimano Deore XT M761 (RD)
> *Crankset: *Silver 38/24 (170mm)
> *Pedals: *MKS Lambda Cassette: Shimano HG400, 9-speed (11-36T)
> *Seat post: *Nitto lugged
> *Bottle Cage: *Nitto R
> *Saddle: *Brooks B68
> *Kickstand: *Of course
>
> Shoutout and good vibes to Third Wheel Bikes 
>  for the assembly.
>


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[RBW] Re: My dream "forever bike" is finally done -- thanks to this group!

['peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very nice.  With the albatross bars have you had issues with your knee 
striking the bar end on tight turns?  

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 10:07:01 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Robert, 
>
> Wow, what a beauty you've built up! I love your 'smiles to miles' metric, 
> and I'm sure you'll find that will remain consistent throughout your life 
> with this bike. Enjoy!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:55:35 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Congrats Robert! That's a beautiful bike!
>>
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>>
>>> Not pictured is a Baggins bag strapped to the saddle hooks. It fits 
>>> everything I need it to: phone, keys, wallet, repair kit, snack, medicine. 
>>> :) 
>>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>>>
 A few months back, I set out to build my do-it-all dream bike and I 
 did. I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out and it is truly a joy to 
 ride: it's the most comfortable and buttery smooth bicycle I've ever 
 ridden. Smiles per mile is super high. Many thanks to this lovely group 
 for 
 all the advice and conversation. Build below.
 [image: ahpm2fo1kpbd1.jpeg]
 *Frame:* Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm.
 *Wheelset: *Velocity Atlas rims, 32h White Industries MI5 front and 
 rear hubs laced with DT Swiss Competition DB spokes
 *Tires: *Panaracer Gravelking 700x43c
 *Brakes:* Paul Racer, Kool-Stop pads
 *Brake Levers: *Paul cantilever
 *Bars:* Nitto Albatross
 *Grips: *Meisha’s Portuguese tree cork
 *Tape: *Tanglefoot “Aunt Ronnie’s Recliner”
 *Stem: *Nitto lugged
 *Shifters: *Shimano Dura Ace bar ends (friction F/R)
 *Derailers: *Shimano Dura Ace EA100 (FD), Shimano Deore XT M761 (RD)
 *Crankset: *Silver 38/24 (170mm)
 *Pedals: *MKS Lambda Cassette: Shimano HG400, 9-speed (11-36T)
 *Seat post: *Nitto lugged
 *Bottle Cage: *Nitto R
 *Saddle: *Brooks B68
 *Kickstand: *Of course

 Shoutout and good vibes to Third Wheel Bikes 
  for the assembly.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

[Gordon Stam]

Very nice, Brian. Nothing like a new bike. I'm thinking there's another top
tube bike in my future and maybe it'll be a Sam. Congrats!

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, 12:04 PM Ryan  wrote:

> @Brian...that periwinkle is a great color and that's a nice build! I think
> I'd keep the eggplant which I see you also have on the driveside chainstay
> because it picks up on the purplish hue of that periwinkle. Although seeing
> the bike in the flesh *is* different from a laptop monitor.
>
> Glad you enjoy the bike
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 12:57:46 AM UTC-5 Brian Watts wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> I was there in the morning yesterday too.
>>> I think I saw your bike!
>>>
>>> Let’s see some new ride photos!
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Brian Watts  wrote:
>>>
>>> I made the pilgrimage to Walnut Creek via Bart yesterday, my Sam was
>>> waiting for me. I thought it would be romantic to ride home and get a
>>> proper feel for my first Rivendell...and it WAS. Roman is a pleasure to
>>> work with and he showed me some details of the bike. I didn't know this but
>>> they give you some swag too:patch kit, allen tool, bandana, the new
>>> seatpost diam. stickers etc...fun!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Build details: I bought the Sam Hillborne to replace a Crust Romanceur
>>> and moved most of the parts over. The low trail handling of the Romanceur
>>> did not sit well with me, felt too unstable and quick descents felt
>>> borderline dangerous requiring both hands on bars. I did need 700c wheels
>>> so I kept with the Velocity Quills in case I go tubeless again.
>>> *Hub sound is important to me, I have a White T11 that is very loud (too
>>> loud for me) and would make sense (to me) on a proper road bike. But the
>>> Sam (and the Crust) is my do most things bike, including low speed
>>> neighborhood runs with my kids, errands, etc. A loud hub is a conversation
>>> non-starter in these situations. I visited RBW earlier and really liked the
>>> stock Velocity hub, louder than Deore but still quiet-ish, a classy sound
>>> imo. Rich used one word to describe the Silvr hub.LOUD. I also have the
>>> Velocity dynamo hub which Rich says is the same as the Kasai (which isn't
>>> in stock atm.
>>> *Son light, paul cantis, White VBC cranks (44x30) albatross bars, a new
>>> RBW front rack etc.
>>> Bike thoughts: Only 20 miles with some hills into it but I love the
>>> stability! That was my main reason for selling the Crust and I love how the
>>> Sam handles. With sweep back bars the handling can become too light but I
>>> was able to ride hands free down small hills which I would never try on the
>>> low trail Crust. YAY!! I will fine tune bar height; the stem is a Tallux 12
>>> which is an error, we had decided on the 90-190 so Roman will have that
>>> switched next week. I will try to post pics here but if not I will reply
>>> with pics.
>>>
>>> I may change the eggplant bartape to olive or navy or grey. I'm open to
>>> suggestions!
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to more time on the bike, thanks for reading!
>>> Brian
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

[Ryan]

@Brian...that periwinkle is a great color and that's a nice build! I think 
I'd keep the eggplant which I see you also have on the driveside chainstay 
because it picks up on the purplish hue of that periwinkle. Although seeing 
the bike in the flesh *is* different from a laptop monitor.

Glad you enjoy the bike

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 12:57:46 AM UTC-5 Brian Watts wrote:

> [image: 48F7DC1E-C9EA-4C6D-A9BE-E6951ADABD66_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
> F5844013-CBFB-4C5B-92C4-B2E160F35C66_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
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>
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> I was there in the morning yesterday too.
>> I think I saw your bike!
>>
>> Let’s see some new ride photos!
>> k.
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Brian Watts  wrote:
>>
>> I made the pilgrimage to Walnut Creek via Bart yesterday, my Sam was 
>> waiting for me. I thought it would be romantic to ride home and get a 
>> proper feel for my first Rivendell...and it WAS. Roman is a pleasure to 
>> work with and he showed me some details of the bike. I didn't know this but 
>> they give you some swag too:patch kit, allen tool, bandana, the new 
>> seatpost diam. stickers etc...fun!
>>
>>
>>
>> Build details: I bought the Sam Hillborne to replace a Crust Romanceur 
>> and moved most of the parts over. The low trail handling of the Romanceur 
>> did not sit well with me, felt too unstable and quick descents felt 
>> borderline dangerous requiring both hands on bars. I did need 700c wheels 
>> so I kept with the Velocity Quills in case I go tubeless again. 
>> *Hub sound is important to me, I have a White T11 that is very loud (too 
>> loud for me) and would make sense (to me) on a proper road bike. But the 
>> Sam (and the Crust) is my do most things bike, including low speed 
>> neighborhood runs with my kids, errands, etc. A loud hub is a conversation 
>> non-starter in these situations. I visited RBW earlier and really liked the 
>> stock Velocity hub, louder than Deore but still quiet-ish, a classy sound 
>> imo. Rich used one word to describe the Silvr hub.LOUD. I also have the 
>> Velocity dynamo hub which Rich says is the same as the Kasai (which isn't 
>> in stock atm.
>> *Son light, paul cantis, White VBC cranks (44x30) albatross bars, a new 
>> RBW front rack etc.
>> Bike thoughts: Only 20 miles with some hills into it but I love the 
>> stability! That was my main reason for selling the Crust and I love how the 
>> Sam handles. With sweep back bars the handling can become too light but I 
>> was able to ride hands free down small hills which I would never try on the 
>> low trail Crust. YAY!! I will fine tune bar height; the stem is a Tallux 12 
>> which is an error, we had decided on the 90-190 so Roman will have that 
>> switched next week. I will try to post pics here but if not I will reply 
>> with pics.
>>
>> I may change the eggplant bartape to olive or navy or grey. I'm open to 
>> suggestions!
>>
>> I'm looking forward to more time on the bike, thanks for reading!
>> Brian
>>
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[RBW] Re: Size 45 Clem Smith JR sizing?!

[John Johnson]

Hi Sam,

The photo is you posted looks like one of the earlier model Clem Hs (maybe 
a 2017 or so).

Bikeinsights.com will give you geo info.

Sizing, like Jim says, isn't just about height but pbh, riding preferences, 
and so on...

That being said, I'm 168cm tall and found the 2019 Clem H pretty perfect, 
but I used bullmoose bars. I did not like it (too scrunched up) with swept 
back bars (like the boscomoose in the photo). 

Cheers,

John

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 5:48:51 PM UTC+2 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Your total height is only part of the equation, mate.
>
> Here's a good place to start for finding the right sized Riv - 
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 8:47:42 AM UTC-7 s...@secondwindow.co.uk 
> wrote:
>
>> Can somebody tell me if a size 45 Rivendell Clem Smith JR would fit me?
>>
>> I am 173cm tall
>>
>> Thanks and please help!
>>
>> [image: r/Rivendell_Bicycles - Size 45 Clem Smith JR sizing?!]
>>
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[RBW] EDIT: WTB: 55-58 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Jacob Yosowitz]

EDIT: my pbh is 87.5. I mismeasured the first time around. So I guess that 
puts 57-58cm sams in the running as well. Open to other rivs too. 
Would welcome any advice on sizing. Will a 55 be too small? I'm 5'9. 

On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 10:29:05 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Jacob, 
>
> Others may have to weigh in on this, but I'm inclined to say the chain 
> stay length has not changed for the Sam Hillborne - yet. Since the Homer 
> Hilsen did get longer, it may just be a matter of time. 
> I own personal preference would not to mess with it. Some minor changes 
> were made since my 2015 model, mainly the seat cluster. But that is rather 
> a minor aesthetic difference. 
> I think my original double top tube 2007 Sam used a different tubing, 
> before their "Silver" tubes were introduced.
> (My guess is the "socket-type" connection used on most Riv models now at 
> the seat cluster is easier (cheaper?) to manufacture and probably takes 
> less skill / time / labor to braze. (I would like to know if one of you RBW 
> frame builders can answer, I would be obliged.)
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 07:08:52 PM EDT, Jacob Yosowitz <
> jyos...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I appreciate the responses and resources shared! 
> What year did the geometry change for longer chainstays occur on the sam?
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 5:28:51 AM UTC-4 Jay wrote:
>
> If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re 
> welcome to try out my Roadini (size 57).
>
> Jason
>
> On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Jacob,
>
>
> I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both 
> a Homer and a Sam. 
> The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day 
> tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. 
> The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including 
> "unpavement". 
> Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider 
> if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" 
> design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, 
> if that is your choice. 
> I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the 
> Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and 
> credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. 
> You obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these 
> would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
> enthusiasm you've shared above.
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Dorothy C]

I don’t know about Riv restocking, as they just had them in February, but 
CL Cycle have a lime-olive or a Forest Green in stock. They are in Canada, 
but ship to the US. Make sure to click the USD button. 

https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html


On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 3:20:20 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Ryan,
>
> I'm certain that RBW headquarters has the Clems on their framesets and 
> completes schedule for later this year. For now, it's a waiting game to see 
> when exactly when.
>
> Between now and then, it will give you time to save up more money for your 
> purchase. 
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 2:40 PM Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
>> I had planned on the Clem replacing the 2 bikes I have but it seems my 
>> budget needs to be tighter than expected. My Clem will have to keep waiting 
>> it seems. Thank you all very much for the help!
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:33:15 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Ryan,
>>> as an idea... Call Will Keating tomorrow at RBW headquarters and see if 
>>> they have a 59cm frameset unsold somewhere in their warehouse or even a 
>>> complete or a demo. I bought my 52cm Clem through a serendipity experience 
>>> talking to Will. I was and remain truly grateful to find one in RBW blue. 
>>>
>>> ...or post ISO/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset on 
>>> Facebook's Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
>>>  webpage. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:21:42 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Ryan,
 You are more than welcome.

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you again, Kim!
>
> Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I 
> am usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 
>
> Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an 
> adapter for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. 
> Still hope I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping 
> and sales tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
>> adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> BTW... you are welcome.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike 
 both on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish 
 I 
 could test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second 
 bike. 
 However, I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein 
 the 
 past discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, 
 than 
 the Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance 
 and 
 abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks 
 HOMAGE 
 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like 
> the perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.

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[RBW] Re: Size 45 Clem Smith JR sizing?!

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Your total height is only part of the equation, mate.

Here's a good place to start for finding the right sized Riv - 
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh



On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 8:47:42 AM UTC-7 s...@secondwindow.co.uk 
wrote:

> Can somebody tell me if a size 45 Rivendell Clem Smith JR would fit me?
>
> I am 173cm tall
>
> Thanks and please help!
>
> [image: r/Rivendell_Bicycles - Size 45 Clem Smith JR sizing?!]
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[RBW] Size 45 Clem Smith JR sizing?!

[Sam Ashton]

Can somebody tell me if a size 45 Rivendell Clem Smith JR would fit me?

I am 173cm tall

Thanks and please help!

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[RBW] Re: My dream "forever bike" is finally done -- thanks to this group!

[John Rinker]

Hey Robert, 

Wow, what a beauty you've built up! I love your 'smiles to miles' metric, 
and I'm sure you'll find that will remain consistent throughout your life 
with this bike. Enjoy!

Cheers, John

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:55:35 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Congrats Robert! That's a beautiful bike!
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>
>> Not pictured is a Baggins bag strapped to the saddle hooks. It fits 
>> everything I need it to: phone, keys, wallet, repair kit, snack, medicine. 
>> :) 
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>>
>>> A few months back, I set out to build my do-it-all dream bike and I did. 
>>> I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out and it is truly a joy to ride: 
>>> it's the most comfortable and buttery smooth bicycle I've ever ridden. 
>>> Smiles per mile is super high. Many thanks to this lovely group for all the 
>>> advice and conversation. Build below.
>>> [image: ahpm2fo1kpbd1.jpeg]
>>> *Frame:* Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm.
>>> *Wheelset: *Velocity Atlas rims, 32h White Industries MI5 front and 
>>> rear hubs laced with DT Swiss Competition DB spokes
>>> *Tires: *Panaracer Gravelking 700x43c
>>> *Brakes:* Paul Racer, Kool-Stop pads
>>> *Brake Levers: *Paul cantilever
>>> *Bars:* Nitto Albatross
>>> *Grips: *Meisha’s Portuguese tree cork
>>> *Tape: *Tanglefoot “Aunt Ronnie’s Recliner”
>>> *Stem: *Nitto lugged
>>> *Shifters: *Shimano Dura Ace bar ends (friction F/R)
>>> *Derailers: *Shimano Dura Ace EA100 (FD), Shimano Deore XT M761 (RD)
>>> *Crankset: *Silver 38/24 (170mm)
>>> *Pedals: *MKS Lambda Cassette: Shimano HG400, 9-speed (11-36T)
>>> *Seat post: *Nitto lugged
>>> *Bottle Cage: *Nitto R
>>> *Saddle: *Brooks B68
>>> *Kickstand: *Of course
>>>
>>> Shoutout and good vibes to Third Wheel Bikes 
>>>  for the assembly.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My dream "forever bike" is finally done -- thanks to this group!

[Johnny Alien]

Congrats Robert! That's a beautiful bike!

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:

> Not pictured is a Baggins bag strapped to the saddle hooks. It fits 
> everything I need it to: phone, keys, wallet, repair kit, snack, medicine. 
> :) 
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>
>> A few months back, I set out to build my do-it-all dream bike and I did. 
>> I couldn’t be happier with how it turned out and it is truly a joy to ride: 
>> it's the most comfortable and buttery smooth bicycle I've ever ridden. 
>> Smiles per mile is super high. Many thanks to this lovely group for all the 
>> advice and conversation. Build below.
>> [image: ahpm2fo1kpbd1.jpeg]
>> *Frame:* Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm.
>> *Wheelset: *Velocity Atlas rims, 32h White Industries MI5 front and rear 
>> hubs laced with DT Swiss Competition DB spokes
>> *Tires: *Panaracer Gravelking 700x43c
>> *Brakes:* Paul Racer, Kool-Stop pads
>> *Brake Levers: *Paul cantilever
>> *Bars:* Nitto Albatross
>> *Grips: *Meisha’s Portuguese tree cork
>> *Tape: *Tanglefoot “Aunt Ronnie’s Recliner”
>> *Stem: *Nitto lugged
>> *Shifters: *Shimano Dura Ace bar ends (friction F/R)
>> *Derailers: *Shimano Dura Ace EA100 (FD), Shimano Deore XT M761 (RD)
>> *Crankset: *Silver 38/24 (170mm)
>> *Pedals: *MKS Lambda Cassette: Shimano HG400, 9-speed (11-36T)
>> *Seat post: *Nitto lugged
>> *Bottle Cage: *Nitto R
>> *Saddle: *Brooks B68
>> *Kickstand: *Of course
>>
>> Shoutout and good vibes to Third Wheel Bikes 
>>  for the assembly.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: My dream "forever bike" is finally done -- thanks to this group!

[Robert Calton]

Not pictured is a Baggins bag strapped to the saddle hooks. It fits 
everything I need it to: phone, keys, wallet, repair kit, snack, medicine. 
:) 
On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:

> A few months back, I set out to build my do-it-all dream bike and I did. I 
> couldn’t be happier with how it turned out and it is truly a joy to ride: 
> it's the most comfortable and buttery smooth bicycle I've ever ridden. 
> Smiles per mile is super high. Many thanks to this lovely group for all the 
> advice and conversation. Build below.
> [image: ahpm2fo1kpbd1.jpeg]
> *Frame:* Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm.
> *Wheelset: *Velocity Atlas rims, 32h White Industries MI5 front and rear 
> hubs laced with DT Swiss Competition DB spokes
> *Tires: *Panaracer Gravelking 700x43c
> *Brakes:* Paul Racer, Kool-Stop pads
> *Brake Levers: *Paul cantilever
> *Bars:* Nitto Albatross
> *Grips: *Meisha’s Portuguese tree cork
> *Tape: *Tanglefoot “Aunt Ronnie’s Recliner”
> *Stem: *Nitto lugged
> *Shifters: *Shimano Dura Ace bar ends (friction F/R)
> *Derailers: *Shimano Dura Ace EA100 (FD), Shimano Deore XT M761 (RD)
> *Crankset: *Silver 38/24 (170mm)
> *Pedals: *MKS Lambda Cassette: Shimano HG400, 9-speed (11-36T)
> *Seat post: *Nitto lugged
> *Bottle Cage: *Nitto R
> *Saddle: *Brooks B68
> *Kickstand: *Of course
>
> Shoutout and good vibes to Third Wheel Bikes 
>  for the assembly.
>

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