[RBW] Re: FS: Brown Small TrunkSack, Nitto M-18 front rack, Brooks Brown B17, Brooks Challenge Toolbag, Tektro R559 brakes

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you so much everyone for the purchases.

All sold other than:

• Brooks Challenge Saddle Bag in Antique Brown - $40
• Brooks Microfiber bar tape in Honey (unused) - $10 with another purchase


On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:

> Here we have a nice collection of parts that I am no longer using. All are 
> used but very lightly so.
>
> • Sackville TrunkSack Small in brown - $85
> • Nitto M-18 front rack - $85
> • Brooks B17 Special in Antique Brown, just broken-in and treated with 
> Obenauf's - $100
> • Brooks Challenge Saddle Bag in Antique Brown - $40
> • Nitto Tallux 12cm quill stem - $40
> • MKS/Rivendell Lambda Pedals - $30
> • Tektro Fl750 brake levers - $10 with another purchase
> • Brooks Microfiber bar tape in Honey (unused) - $10 with another purchase
>
> $300 for the whole lot
>
> all prices are shipped to the lower 48 states and I accept Paypal only
>
> [image: IMG_4429.png]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Minty 2015 55CM Sam Hillborne

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

SOLD

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:

> Lower price bump with a cheaper build options offered
>
> $2100 - Complete as shown
>
> $1900 - Omit the paul racer brakes and substitute the original side pull 
> Tektro brakes for $200 credit
>
> $1900 - Omit the rack, bag and brooks leather saddle bag for $200 credit
>
> $1700 - Both options above combined
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_4264.png]For Sale: Minty 2015 55CM Sam Hillborne.
>>
>> I got this bike over a year ago from the original owner, whose wife  
>> rarely rode it. I took the last year and made it my own. I have also barely 
>> ridden it, I should have held out for a 54CM. Everything works perfectly.
>>
>>- 55CM 2015 Sam Hillborne with stock FSA headset - Mint, almost new. 
>>One or two tiny chips at most in some hidden areas. 
>>- I'm 5'10" and have a 30" inseam (forgot my PBH)
>>   - Nitto front rack
>>- Brown Sackville bag
>>- Rivendell Fillet Face plater stem 110mm
>>- Brooks C17 Saddle
>>- Brooks leather saddle bag
>>- Choco bar
>>- Paul Racer Brakes, front and rear with fancy pads
>>- Diacompe SS-6 levers
>>- Sun XCD cranks in 172.5 46/30T rings
>>- Phil Wood BB
>>- Rivendell pedals
>>- M900 Derailleurs front and rear
>>- Microshift 9 speed shifters
>>- XT 11-34 9 speedcassette
>>- Ultegra, Open Pro wheels
>>- Super Vitesse tires
>>- SKS fenders (not shown)
>>- Have other Riv-ish parts just ask
>>- Willing to ship at cost
>>[image: IMG_4231.png]
>>[image: IMG_4233.png][image: IMG_4242.png][image: IMG_4244.png][image: 
>>IMG_4245.png][image: IMG_4252.png][image: IMG_4258.png]
>>
>>Total: $2250
>>located in Simi Valley CA
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Minty 2015 55CM Sam Hillborne

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Lower price bump with a cheaper build options offered

$2100 - Complete as shown

$1900 - Omit the paul racer brakes and substitute the original side pull 
Tektro brakes for $200 credit

$1900 - Omit the rack, bag and brooks leather saddle bag for $200 credit

$1700 - Both options above combined


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:

> [image: IMG_4264.png]For Sale: Minty 2015 55CM Sam Hillborne.
>
> I got this bike over a year ago from the original owner, whose wife  
> rarely rode it. I took the last year and made it my own. I have also barely 
> ridden it, I should have held out for a 54CM. Everything works perfectly.
>
>- 55CM 2015 Sam Hillborne with stock FSA headset - Mint, almost new. 
>One or two tiny chips at most in some hidden areas. 
>- I'm 5'10" and have a 30" inseam (forgot my PBH)
>   - Nitto front rack
>- Brown Sackville bag
>- Rivendell Fillet Face plater stem 110mm
>- Brooks C17 Saddle
>- Brooks leather saddle bag
>- Choco bar
>- Paul Racer Brakes, front and rear with fancy pads
>- Diacompe SS-6 levers
>- Sun XCD cranks in 172.5 46/30T rings
>- Phil Wood BB
>- Rivendell pedals
>- M900 Derailleurs front and rear
>- Microshift 9 speed shifters
>- XT 11-34 9 speedcassette
>- Ultegra, Open Pro wheels
>- Super Vitesse tires
>- SKS fenders (not shown)
>- Have other Riv-ish parts just ask
>- Willing to ship at cost
>[image: IMG_4231.png]
>[image: IMG_4233.png][image: IMG_4242.png][image: IMG_4244.png][image: 
>IMG_4245.png][image: IMG_4252.png][image: IMG_4258.png]
>
>Total: $2250
>located in Simi Valley CA
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Faceplater failure--anyone else?

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

mine creaked as well until I greased the bolts and the bar clamp interface. 
when it first started, i dripped a tiny bit of tri-flo under the bar/stem 
interface and that stopped it immediately. Then when i had time, I took it 
all apart and greased as above and the creak has not come back.


On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 8:34:38 AM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts, folks. I'll use a torque wrench next time and 
> look for a suitable replacement in the meantime. 
>
> Brett
>
> On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 10:09:25 AM UTC-7 velomann wrote:
>
>> I've got the longest faceplate stem (135) holding Bosco bars on my Sam 
>> and while I haven't experienced any slipping, it does creak. Had me 
>> perplexed for awhile because it only creaks when I'm holding the grips (max 
>> torque on the stem) I ride a lot on the center of the bar near the stem 
>> (wrapped) and sometimes on the bends in front of the flat grip area. No 
>> creak. But out on the grips it creaks. I eliminated headset, brake lever 
>> connection to bar, everything else. I removed the faceplate, re-lubed the 
>> bolts, even lubed the stem/bar interface. It still creaks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike "maybe it's a Portland thing?" M
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 9:35:22 PM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I recently bought a tosco to use with a faceplater stem because the 
>>> losco I was trying out didn't agree with me.  I like the wider, more flared 
>>> tosco a lot.  Anyway,  In a test ride of the new setup, the bar was 
>>> slipping.  I torqued the bolts down, probably too much, because I noticed 
>>> in doing so that the faceplate now seems to be bent.  In removing the 
>>> faceplate, one of the bolts sheeted off and is stuck in the stem.  
>>>
>>> I can get the bolt out, but I'm not sure what to do with the bent 
>>> faceplate.  Anyone else have this issue? Anyone know if Riv has 
>>> replacements? 
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I bought the 31.8 bar and stem because I was 
>>> worried about slippage.  I'm a big guy and that's lots of leverage, but 
>>> honestly I expected better from Nitto.
>>>
>>>   I replaced the faceplater  with a slightly shorter 2 bolt removable 
>>> faceplate stem from Velo Orange, which has larger diameter bolts to attach 
>>> the faceplate, and didn't experience any slipping. However, the VO stem us 
>>> a little shorter than I'd like, and I really hate to think I'm just out a 
>>> nice looking stem because of the bent faceplate.
>>>
>>>  Brett in PDX 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB- 2 Silver Bar End Pods (and/or Silver Shifters)

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I also have several sets of the shimano bar end pods if you or anyone else 
needs em


On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 11:50:18 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mindful of that protruberance, Mr. Lindsay! 
>
>  [image: Screen Shot 2021-07-02 at 2.49.13 PM.png]
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:52:25 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I have a couple sets of Shimano Pods, and a new pair of Silver Shifters.  
>> The Shimano pods have a small bump-out on the square protruberance that 
>> serves as a guide when assembling in an all-Shimano setup.  That bump out 
>> gets in the way with a Silver setup, but it's not difficult to scrub that 
>> off.  
>>
>> Let me know if you want any of those bits, including if you want me to do 
>> the work to get you a complete working set of Silver shifters on Shimano 
>> pods.  
>>
>> Silver shifters would have retailed at $35 each and pods would have 
>> retailed at $28 each.  I can provide you with a complete Silver-on-Shimano 
>> setup for $80 shipped.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:06:05 AM UTC-7 michaels...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Looking for the Silver bar-end pods mainly since they don't have them 
>>> currently in stock. However, if you already have some set up with shifters 
>>> let me know if you would be willing to part with them. Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

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Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Really hard decision overall. I ended 
up ordering the SUNXCD cranks in 172.5 and 46/30 from veloduo. I really 
wanted 44/30 or 44/28 but that range was out of stock. I almost went for 
the cloverleaf chainring version as they had the gear range I wanted but I 
really prefer the 6 arm style I think.

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 8:20:56 AM UTC-7 Jim Bronson wrote:

> Yes,  I'm currently running chainrings without ramps and pins with a 10 
> speed cassette and indexed shifting in the back.   No issues, or at least, 
> nothing that's an issue for me. 
>
> I don't have the 50.4BCD setup (and would not be interested in acquiring 
> it as my body requires high Q) as per the topic of this thread,  but just 
> as a side response to the reply of,  "you can't use regular chainrings with 
> more than 8 speed.  I have an older a 135BCD Shimano triple that I use with 
> a bashguard in place of the big ring.  It was shiny silver at one point but 
> after years of hard use,  decidedly less so.   But anyway...
>
> It doesn't shift as snappy up front as an indexed setup with brifters and 
> ramps and pins and all that, but I don't really care.  I'm using bar ends 
> as a proper drop bar equipped Rivendell should.   And I'm not in that much 
> of a hurry.
>
> Using 44/28 in front and 11-32 in the back,  I find that the need to drop 
> down to the lower range up front is fairly infrequent anyway.  Usually only 
> used on brevets where the ride organizer sends the route up some nutty 
> 15-20% grade to test our mettle, I guess. 
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 07:06 Bill Schairer  wrote:
>
>> I've been running 3x9 with a TA crank and a Stronglight for years without 
>> any issues.  I also ran 3x10 for a while.  Currently have 47/44/26 TA and 
>> 50/45/26 Stronglight (with TA rings) and they both shift quite well with no 
>> ramps and pins.  What are those for?  I think the Stronglight arms *had * a 
>> better finish than the TA's but I think they are harder to come by.
>>
>> One and only one supplier and no odd tooth count rings are my biggest 
>> issues with Rene Herse.  I could probably get over the single supplier and 
>> cost if they offered odd tooth count.
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 8:43:16 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot those links:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://specialites-ta.com/pro-5-vis/196-693-pro-5-vis-plateau-specialites-ta-pro-5-vis-exterieur-80mm-8v-specialites-ta-pl50080302.html#/21,denture,40-dts
>>>
>>>
>>> https://specialites-ta.com/pro-5-vis/197-707-pro-5-vis-plateau-specialites-ta-pro-5-vis-interieur-intermediaire-80mm-8v-specialites-ta-pl50080102.html#/9,denture,26-dts
>>>
>>> I believe Velo Classique in Virginia is the US distributor for 
>>> Specialites TA. Obviously, there are also UK/European retailers that ship 
>>> to the US.
>>>
>>> The one key drawback to 5-pin TA chainrings is that the rings aren't 
>>> ramped/pinned; you're effectively capped at an 8-speed rear. But really, do 
>>> you need more than 3x8 gears?
>>>
>>> Peter Adler
>>> specializing in beating dead horses in
>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 8:34:48 PM UTC-7 Peter Adler wrote:
>>>
 Large selection of chainring sizes? *C'est très humoristique!*

 Specialites TA (still in business; still producing 50.4mm cyclotouriste 
 chainrings in France, now in 7075 aluminum) make outers (attaches to 
 crankarm) in all even increments from 40-52T, and inners (attaches to 
 outers) from 26-42T.

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[RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

oops, its only 3x cranks not 4x like it suggests above. Should be:

Velo Orange Grand Cru, vs SUNXCD vs Rene Herse Grand Bois

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:

>
> Looking at a fancy crankset to put on my Sam.
>
> What are folks opinions of these models that are currently available for 
> purchase?
>
> Velo Orange vs Grand Cru, vs SUNXCD vs Rene Herse Grand Bois
>
> If you could choose between these, which would you go with? Cost is 
> definitely a factor obviously but its also an investment and I am looking 
> for what works best without being overkill. Which is the best made and has 
> the best finish, whose rings perform best? Best bang for the buck?
>
> Bonus points: for the SUNXCD Clover leaf vs standard 6 arm TA rings
>

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[RBW] 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Looking at a fancy crankset to put on my Sam.

What are folks opinions of these models that are currently available for 
purchase?

Velo Orange vs Grand Cru, vs SUNXCD vs Rene Herse Grand Bois

If you could choose between these, which would you go with? Cost is 
definitely a factor obviously but its also an investment and I am looking 
for what works best without being overkill. Which is the best made and has 
the best finish, whose rings perform best? Best bang for the buck?

Bonus points: for the SUNXCD Clover leaf vs standard 6 arm TA rings

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[RBW] WTB: Raul Racer brakes in silver

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Would love to find a mildly used set of Paul Racer brakes in silver with 
the recessed mounts. May have parts to trade or cash.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: parts for upcoming Sam Hillborne build - 700c wheelset 32h, 2x crankset, brakes, bars

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have the stem for you if you want to email me direct

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:32:17 AM UTC-7 John Woo wrote:

> Hello folks, and happy Summer.
>
> I know bike parts can be scarce as hen's teeth, so I'm casting a wide net 
> for components for an upcoming 9-speed Sam Hillborne build:
>
> - 2x low/wide crankset
> - cantilever brakes and hangers
> - Choco or Billie bars
> - Nitto Tallux stem 12cm
> - 700c wheelset, 32h, Shimano, preferably in silver. I'd order a new set 
> using Velocity Dyad rims, to give you an idea of what I'm looking for.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

We went with the Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48's on Maia's Platypus. They are 
absolutely fantastic tires, truly. I would not hesitate to recommend the 
Shikoro's based on what I know, since they are in essence very similar 
tires, just with added flat protection.

Depending on the width of your rims, you might be able to fit a larger tire 
than what you think.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:57:35 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes, mine is the 50cm, good choice for my 81 PBH I think?
>
> On a 650b I've most recently ridden the Kendas (like wood but not as 
> pliant) & the Soma/Panaracer Co de Vie (not bad), on a 700c the Panaracer 
> Gravel King (again, not bad). Now I promise to shut up after this, but 
> after the RH I'm never going back to another brand, they're that much 
> better. The 1st ride was all it took.
>
> The People rest, your Honor.
>
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 6:19:45 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Phil--Your Platy is a 50cm?
>>
>> Joyce, I'm so happy for you.  
>>
>> These are the ones I think (I could check later) Analog speced for my 
>> Platy--with the same riding info--mostly road, pea gravel, perhaps a touch 
>> off pavement in case I need to be):  
>> https://analogcycles.com/product/panaracer-gravelking-semi-knobby-tires/  
>> Officially, they are 43cm.
>>
>> I just got a pair from a fellow member in 38's that I put on my she 
>> devil.  I might have only ridden 10 miles but they are better than the 
>> Marathon supreme that were on there (and I didn't mind the supremes).  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 2:36:09 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Oh joy!  My mermaid Platypus 55 cm frame is on the way!  There’s no ETA 
>>> yet on Velocity Dyad wheels from Rich at RBW,  however I want to be ready 
>>> and am seeking the wisdom of the group for recommendations on tires.  
>>>
>>> Details: 
>>> —Soma fenders, 52mm, that allow for tires up to 42mm
>>> —Light build, mostly planning for road riding or Rails to Trails paths 
>>> —Minimal loads for day rides
>>> —I’ll be using tubes and don’t need “tubeless ready.”
>>> —No super light casings because I want some flat protection
>>> —I have a Clem for hauling and riding dirt trails using Schwalbe Big 
>>> Bens, 27.5 x 2.0
>>>
>>> Options contemplated:
>>> —Panaracer Shikoro 38mm (can’t locate 42 in stock)
>>> —Panaracer Gravel King (not sure which one)
>>>
>>> Your thoughts and advice?  What would you recommend?  What else should I 
>>> consider? 
>>>
>>> —Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 54CM Canti Sam Hillborne frame or complete bike

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Thanks so much Matthew, both are close, but not quite what I am after. 

I definitely want canti brakes, and need 54CM (although a 55CM might work)

I also greatly prefer 700C wheels over 650B
On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 12:39:18 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> 55cm, with centerpulls:
>
>
> https://maine.craigslist.org/bik/d/bustins-island-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7304637824.html
>
> 52cm:
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bik/d/lynnwood-rivendell-sam-hillborne-650b/7305470008.html
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2021, at 12:33 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I need a Rivendell to ride with my wife, now that she has a Platypus. 
> Building up her Platy and riding it a bit really made me want a Rivendell 
> of my own again. I owned a Bombadil many years ago and really miss that 
> bike now.
>
> That said, I have settled on wanting a canti Sam Hillborne in 54CM.
>
> Please keep me in mind if you see one pop up. I am in SoCal, between 
> Ventura County and Los Angeles. I am also open to pay to ship a bike or 
> frame if its right for me.
>
> thanks
>
> w
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[RBW] WTB: 54CM Canti Sam Hillborne frame or complete bike

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey folks,

I need a Rivendell to ride with my wife, now that she has a Platypus. 
Building up her Platy and riding it a bit really made me want a Rivendell 
of my own again. I owned a Bombadil many years ago and really miss that 
bike now.

That said, I have settled on wanting a canti Sam Hillborne in 54CM.

Please keep me in mind if you see one pop up. I am in SoCal, between 
Ventura County and Los Angeles. I am also open to pay to ship a bike or 
frame if its right for me.

thanks

w

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sounds like fun. That said, I will need a Rivendell of my own before we can 
do an official 805 Riv ride. I'm on the hunt as we speak.


On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 2:37:03 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Tom--Exciting news!  I hope you live close and get it built for rides 
> this weekend.
>
> Dorothy, Will, Maia, David...
>
> There is not much that is better than riding with a group of like minded 
> Riv people!  I just got back from a ride with wonderful riders in my area.  
> Nothing like it!
>
> Roberta
>
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:45:28 AM UTC-4 David Person wrote:
>
>> Dorothy, Will & Maia, maybe we can have a Riv meetup sometime.  My 
>> Hillborne and I reside in T.O. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 7:25:16 AM UTC-7 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> My Platy frame is scheduled for delivery later this week!  They are 
>>> shipping out!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Sam sizing advice

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Wow, overwhelming amount of responses. Much appreciated all! 

I think that I will definitely need the 55 or 54 (buying used so will 
depend on what pops up) since I do plan to run upright bars of some kind.

Now just need to find one. This last weekend, there were at least 4x Sams 
that went up for sale across the country, all orange. Gives me hope I will 
find one soon.

On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 3:45:51 PM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I should’ve mentioned the Bleriot  is the older Rivendell geometry so it’s 
> more like what would be a 52 cm for the measurements today.  
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:41 PM J S  wrote:
>
>> So that means 78.1 cm vs. 79.4.  
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:37 PM J S  wrote:
>>
>>> The standover of my 51cm Sam with 48mm Switchback  Hill tires is about 
>>> 30.75”. My PBH IS 80.6 so I have a bit of room.  Mt 55 cm Bleriot with 42mm 
>>> tires is a bit over 31.25”  and is ok but tight.  The TT on the Bleriot is 
>>> 1cm shorter than the Sam so I use a stem that is 1cm less.  
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.  
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 5:49 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will,
>>>>
>>>> I'm 5'7" with an 83cm pbh.  I've ridden Sams, but I own a 54.5 AHH and 
>>>> would be less happy on a smaller bike (I'm like Maia--hey, 
>>>> RivSister--bigger is better)  However, the top tube is close!  
>>>>
>>>> Joel in this thread or another suggested getting someone to measure the 
>>>> stand over of Sam.   Like aeroperf, I rode a 51cm Sam and didn't feel it 
>>>> was quite right  for my PBH, which is both his and yours.  One time I was 
>>>> at Riv and threw my leg over an older 55 Sam and it was too tall for me.  
>>>> Perhaps the new ones are slightly smaller, even with the bigger wheels.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, someone here suggested a favor from the listers here for you 
>>>> to test ride their Sam.  I think that is a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is hilarious and you guys are awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>> my PBH is indeed 83CM if I try to lift myself up off the ground. 
>>>>> nd I just found out I am more like 5' 9 & a 1/4".
>>>>>
>>>>> sounds like I would just qualify for the 54cm Sam which is perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> w
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Will,
>>>>>> I second what Jason said.
>>>>>> I’m 5’ 71/2”. Maybe 5’8” on a good day with a tailwind.
>>>>>> I have a PBH of 83 and ride a 56cm Homer from the time they ran 650B.
>>>>>> I’m running Hetres and am quite comfortable with ‘space’ and fit.
>>>>>> Best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> Buffalo, NY 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:05 PM, J L  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect you are going to get many of the same responses so i’ll keep 
>>>>>> mine brief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) The PBH listings are guidelines. 82pbh should be fine on that bike.
>>>>>> 2) Call Riv HQ and talk to them about your size concerns they are 
>>>>>> great to talk to.
>>>>>> 3) We are all built different and yet 82cm PBH at 5’11” seems quite 
>>>>>> short in the legs. I suspect you have under measured. Measure again and 
>>>>>> keep pulling up as if you are going to lift yourself off the ground. I 
>>>>>> expect you will find another CM or two of PBH has been there all along. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> SFCA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 5:42 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running 650B 
>>>>>> wheels and tires. Would really prefer 700C. I have lots of parts on hand

Re: [RBW] Sam sizing advice

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This is hilarious and you guys are awesome.

my PBH is indeed 83CM if I try to lift myself up off the ground. nd I 
just found out I am more like 5' 9 & a 1/4".

sounds like I would just qualify for the 54cm Sam which is perfect.

w

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:15:08 PM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:

> Will,
> I second what Jason said.
> I’m 5’ 71/2”. Maybe 5’8” on a good day with a tailwind.
> I have a PBH of 83 and ride a 56cm Homer from the time they ran 650B.
> I’m running Hetres and am quite comfortable with ‘space’ and fit.
> Best.
>
> David
> Buffalo, NY 
>
> On Apr 23, 2021, at 9:05 PM, J L  wrote:
>
> Will,
>
> I expect you are going to get many of the same responses so i’ll keep mine 
> brief.
>
> 1) The PBH listings are guidelines. 82pbh should be fine on that bike.
> 2) Call Riv HQ and talk to them about your size concerns they are great to 
> talk to.
> 3) We are all built different and yet 82cm PBH at 5’11” seems quite short 
> in the legs. I suspect you have under measured. Measure again and keep 
> pulling up as if you are going to lift yourself off the ground. I expect 
> you will find another CM or two of PBH has been there all along. 
>
> Cheers
> Jason
> SFCA
>
> On Apr 23, 2021, at 5:42 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM. 
>
> I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running 650B 
> wheels and tires. Would really prefer 700C. I have lots of parts on hand 
> and all of it is 700C.
>
> The challenge is that the 54cm Sam they sell these days requires minimum 
> PBH of 83CM, if I go down to a 51cm Sam, they take 650B wheels.
>
> Did Riv ever make a smaller Sam that is compatible with my 82PBH that was 
> 700c?
>
> Is there another model similar to the Sam that fits my requirements?
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[RBW] Sam sizing advice

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM. 

I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running 650B 
wheels and tires. Would really prefer 700C. I have lots of parts on hand 
and all of it is 700C.

The challenge is that the 54cm Sam they sell these days requires minimum 
PBH of 83CM, if I go down to a 51cm Sam, they take 650B wheels.

Did Riv ever make a smaller Sam that is compatible with my 82PBH that was 
700c?

Is there another model similar to the Sam that fits my requirements?

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

16" on the nose from tip to edge of HT

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:55:59 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Would someone mind running a tape measure for the pump mounting boss to 
> head tube?
>
> Also, what are people's thoughts on fenders for their Plats?
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an Appaloosa 
>> for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably be my ultimate 
>> Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a double diamond purist.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the details in 
>>> the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've thought all those same 
>>> thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this is the most 
>>> sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all loving it. 
>>> Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>>>
>>> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for yourself. 
>>> Why not? This IS the best bike in the Riv line, you know...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>

 Maia's Mermaid 55CM Details Part1

 [image: IMG_0443.png][image: IMG_0444.png]
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an Appaloosa 
for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably be my ultimate 
Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a double diamond purist.

On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the details in 
> the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've thought all those same 
> thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this is the most 
> sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all loving it. 
> Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>
> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for yourself. Why 
> not? This IS the best bike in the Riv line, you know...
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Maia's Mermaid 55CM Details Part1
>>
>> [image: IMG_0443.png][image: IMG_0444.png]
>
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[RBW] Re: FS 54cm Saluki Price Question

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I may be interested in your bike if you still have it.. Would love to see 
some more pics though.

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7 kyleco...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am going to be selling my 54cm Saluki, but I'm wondering how much to 
> ask.  I bought it in 2006-7, serial SA0C54.  It's the cantilever brake 
> version.  It's in excellent condition, pewter silver, pretty standard 
> build, with Paul shifters and Tektro interruptor brake levers. 
>
> Most of the FS "sold" posts on here don't list a price.  There is the 50cm 
> one sold on this list in Jan 2018 for $1,800 and there's the AHH/Saluki 
> currently for sale in North Providence for $2,600.  That's a big range!  
>
> I live in the SF Bay Area.  Any thoughts of fair market value?  I'll try 
> to attach a couple pics.  Thanks for your help!
> Kyle
>

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