[RBW] Re: Goathead immunity

[A. Douglas M.]

Patrick,

This year’s crop is indeed bountiful. Last week I got a tire full and made 
it home only to find that tire (29x2.5 surly ET) flat the following day. I 
believe my orange seal dried out.

Just two days ago I got a few goat heads in my 650b WTB resolutes. I knew 
this occurred because I got a nice spray of OS all over my hand and leg. It 
did seal up on its own. A few pumps of the mini pump had me back on the 
road, and that tire stayed inflated as of this morning.

How often do you top off your sealant? How often do you scrape out old 
boogers?

I think tubeless is a requirement in goathead country. Riding is not 
enjoyable when having to fix 3+ tubes per ride.

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 

On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 8:07:47 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This evening I did a combined pavement and dirt ride on my "road bike for 
> dirt" Chauncey Matthews bilaminate custom, on a route including nearby 
> acequia roads, Paseo Bike Path, Rio Grand Boulevard, Los  Poblanos open 
> space, Montano Boulevard. 
>
> This years's goathead crop is a stunner. I took a shortcut from Los 
> Poblanos to RG Boulevard that took me over a few hundred feet of goathead 
> carpet -- I could hear the tires crunching over the thorns as they picked 
> them up, and the scraping of the embedded thorns against the underside of 
> the Kelpie fenders. Sure enough, as I turned left onto RGB, I saw dozens of 
> thorns embedded in the extra light Schwalbe Big One front (450 grams, 62 mm 
> actual on 35 mm outer width rims).
>
> But I made it home and just now, 3 hours afterward, checking the tires, no 
> air loss.
>
> Orange Seal Endurance formula in tubeless tires is 99% (metaphor, not 
> metric) effective against small holes. 
>
> I've used Tire Savers (still have a stash) and Mr Tuffys on all sorts of 
> tires, and believe you me, nothing works as well as good modern sealants.
>
> For my extra lightweight 28 mm RH Elk Passes, I use Orange Seal regular 
> formula in tubes, and this is 90% as good as OS in tubeless tires.
>
> Modern sealant: don't leave home without it.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Do you use a torque wrench? Or are they a

[A. Douglas M.]

REI will take anything back at virtually anytime. The biggest constraint in 
my experience is your moral compass.

I’ve used the same Husky torque wrench for decades with success, but I 
really only use it on automobiles. I sometimes use the Ritchey  torque key 
for things like stems. It’s easy and convenient, but 99% of the time I use 
feel. I broke a cheap Chinese seatpost collar on a friends bike 20 years 
ago. Other than that I’ve been good to go, but I don’t usually use weight 
weenie parts.

Best,

Aaron


On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 2:22:24 PM UTC-6 John Phillips wrote:

>Just found my 2nd torque wrench has died, after less than ten uses, 
> after being properly stored, in a dry place, in its box, with the tension 
> relaxed.
>
>I started putting my Effetto Mariposa through the warm up calibration, 
> and no clicks at 16Nm nor 3 Nm nor any Nm setting. I wanted to install a 
> Paul Boxcar stem on my Hunq, my first 31.8mm stem, and I wanted to get it 
> right, but now I'm left with just my own wrenching touchy feelyness.
>
>My Park Tools torque wench was dead on arrival, and now my second much 
> more pricey Effetto Mariposa has abandoned its mortal coil and left me 
> checking the REI return policy. What gives? Is the normal? I have trout 
> flies that have lasted longer! Jeez! I still use my first, now 52 years 
> old, fiberglass fly rod. I know I'm not Godzilla.
>
>Are there any reliable torque wrenches out there for 3-5.5Nm wrenching, 
> or are they just a waste of money if you're a careful mechanic?
>
> Sorry for the ranting, but I'd really like to know what you all depend on.
>
> Thanks, John
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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Sadly sold. 

On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 8:54:02 AM UTC-6 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> Having travelled the western states through wildfire and dust storms, I am 
> back in Texas, and this bike is ready for its new owner to come forward.
>
> Reduction to $2000.00 and we’ll split actual packing and shipping.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron 
>
> On Aug 6, 2021, at 08:45, A. Douglas M.  wrote:
>
> I appreciate everyone’s interest so far! I’ll be out of town for a few 
> weeks and unable to respond to email.
>
> Best,
> Aaron in El Paso 
>
> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:21:50 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Me too, Collin…me too.
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2021, at 20:10, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> Gosh darnit, this would fit and would be perfect for Sacramento...but 
>> not in the cards right now with my partner starting grad school.
>>
>>
>> Collin in Sacramento
>>
>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7 ryan.merri...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Somebody needs to buy this!  The Frank Jones Sr. is a wonderful single 
>>> speed bike and I'm extremely glad I bought Joe's a year or so ago...well, 
>>> it was during the pandemic anyway. I'm always happy while riding that bike.
>>>
>>> Good luck with the sale!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 1:03:41 PM UTC-5 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all!
>>>>
>>>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under 
>>>> the pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on 
>>>> the 
>>>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>>>
>>>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) 
>>>> and a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity 
>>>> A23 rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>>>
>>>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>>>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>>>
>>>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>>>
>>>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>>>
>>>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>>>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>>>> this color and size.
>>>>
>>>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>>
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Frank Jones for sale 59cm

[A. Douglas M.]

What are the odds that two Aarons from Texas are selling Frank Jones’ at 
the same time?

Good luck with your sale!

Other Aaron in El Paso 

On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 1:18:04 PM UTC-6 twowheeledtexan wrote:

> Also, meant to say I'd trade for a 55/56ish Atlantis, 700c wheelsize only. 
> Partial trade or otherwise.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 2:03:23 PM UTC-5 twowheeledtexan wrote:
>
>> Hello Rivsters, 
>>
>> I've decided to let go of my Frank Jones single speed as it's getting 
>> little to no use in my current bike situation. I bought it new from Riv and 
>> have barely used it in the last couple of years. It's in almost new 
>> condition with one flaw. I had the top tube wrapped with Newbaums and 
>> shellacked to protect it from dings from the handlebar I had on at the time 
>> (upside down Albatross). When I removed the tape I foolishly used acetone 
>> to try to remove the tape and shellac residue, which also took off some of 
>> the clear coat. The paint is fine though. But there's a dime sized hole in 
>> the clear. Once I realized what I was doing I stopped and have left it as 
>> is so the next owner can decide what they want to do with it. Honestly you 
>> could probably ride it for decades and have no issues. I believe I've 
>> priced it accordingly.
>>
>> Sale is for frame/fork/hs, seatpost, and wheelset only. Wheels are 
>> Velocity Dyad 32h, laced to SP dynamo hub, and Phil Wood track hub. I'll 
>> include the 16tooth cog, and the Schwalbe tires for the asking price. Buyer 
>> pays packing/shipping. $1200. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
>> [image: Frank jones.jpg][image: thumbnail_image1.jpg][image: 
>> thumbnail_image2.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

I appreciate everyone’s interest so far! I’ll be out of town for a few 
weeks and unable to respond to email.

Best,
Aaron in El Paso 

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:21:50 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:

> Me too, Collin…me too.
>
> On Aug 3, 2021, at 20:10, Collin A  wrote:
>
> Gosh darnit, this would fit and would be perfect for Sacramento...but not 
> in the cards right now with my partner starting grad school.
>
>
> Collin in Sacramento
>
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7 ryan.merri...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Somebody needs to buy this!  The Frank Jones Sr. is a wonderful single 
>> speed bike and I'm extremely glad I bought Joe's a year or so ago...well, 
>> it was during the pandemic anyway. I'm always happy while riding that bike.
>>
>> Good luck with the sale!
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 1:03:41 PM UTC-5 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under 
>>> the pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
>>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>>
>>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) 
>>> and a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity 
>>> A23 rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>>
>>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>>
>>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>>
>>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>>> this color and size.
>>>
>>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Hey Doug in Athens,

I’ve carried a Pedros Trixie tool since I built up my first fixed gear 
(RB2). It has a 15mm wrench, cog spanner and 5mm Allen on it and fits to 
cage bosses with wing nuts. Great tool if you have axle nuts. 

It is too bad about the mix up. Ultimately, I felt it would be a waste of 
time/money/energy to have the seller pay to ship it back to himself only to 
resell it. I hope it goes to a good home here.

Best,

Aaron

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:16:01 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> Aaron,
> Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
> carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
> assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
> Thanks,
> Doug in Athens, Ga.
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
>> pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>
>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and 
>> a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 
>> rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>
>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>
>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>
>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>
>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>> this color and size.
>>
>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello all!

I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 

Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and a 
White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 rims 
laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 

Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with new 
Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 

Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 

Chain has 20 miles on it. 

This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
this color and size.

Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you!

Aaron in El Paso 


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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[A. Douglas M.]

That Susie looks great with the black components and tan sidewalls. 
On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 9:31:08 PM UTC-6 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Patch!  fn right arrow.  worked like a charm. 
>
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:38:41 PM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>
>> And for Mac keypads w/o an "end" key:  "fn + right arrow"  --OR--  
>> "command + down arrow".
>>
>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 10:18:25 AM UTC-4 Jonathan Poor wrote:
>>
>>> I put my cursor on the text of the top message, and hit the "end" key. 
>>> Zooms right to the bottom.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 10:44:28 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Not a dumb question at all.  I was wondering the same thing.  Anybody 
 have a more helpful answer?  Is there a setting that allows one to read 
 the 
 newest posts first?


 On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 4:06:27 PM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

> I read it in email and Bob is my Uncle...
>
> EricF
> Vancouver on android and Firefox
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 15:46 max.c@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Dumb question -- is there any way to make this thread display the 
>> newest posts at the top? I keep having to scroll through 100+ 
>> posts...sorry 
>> if I'm missing it!
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Re: [RBW] Does anyone know of a good metal plater

[A. Douglas M.]

Beautiful stem!

Best

Aaron in El Paso 

On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 8:10:56 AM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Try contacting painter Joe Bell (joebell.net). He has a plater that he 
> works with.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Jul 27, 2021, at 6:27 AM, David Wadstrup  wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I couldn't find a horizontal 17/32 degree stem for my treadless setup on 
> my Roadeo, that would accept both the correct steerer tube and the Noodles 
> that I love so much, so had to have one custom-made.  It's beautiful and is 
> raw steel.  I couldn't find a plater at the time, and because I wanted to 
> get to riding this bike ASAP I mounted it as is, applied a few coats of 
> Renaissance Wax and hopped for the best.  It's been on there for a quite a 
> while now, and the maintenance is getting to be a little much.  I just 
> can't keep myself from holding the stem when moving the bike around, and 
> wherever I touch it, rust soon develops. Anyways, I need to get it plated. 
>  I can't find anywhere local here in Maine that I can bring it to, and 
> figure that since I'll have to ship it, I can ship it anywhere.  I'd just 
> like to feel confident that I'm sending off to someone who I can trust to 
> do a good job and to someone that won't plate the inside of the tube.  This 
> is all a round about way of asking Does anyone have any 
> recommendations?  Here's a couple of photos in case you're interested:
>
> 
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: measured speed differences between road and touring bikes

[A. Douglas M.]

Aeroperf,

We’re you exerting the same effort each time? I find myself not wanting to 
go fast on my albatross bikes. I think that plays a big part in it. I can 
match speeds on my 29+ but it’s not as fun and it’s not the point of the 
bike. So unless I was purposely trying to match speeds, I never would.

Best,

Aaron

P.s. Nice Fuji.

On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-6 aeroperf wrote:

> Road bike: 1982 Team Fuji with all 2018 equipment (3x9-spd Sora w/105 
> brakes, 622x28 tires, drops)
> Riv bike: 2015 Sam Hillborn set up per factory (3x9-spd Suguino/Shimano 
> w/Tektro rim brakes, 622x42 tires, Albatross)
> Both bikes had Sigma BC.12.12 computers which were calibrated.
>
> The road bike averaged 11.6 mph on 5 trials and the Sam averaged 11.2 mph 
> on 5 trials.
>
> To me, the big differences seemed to be in the gearing and rider 
> position.  The Fuji has a 50 tooth big chainring, while my Sam has a 46 
> tooth.
> Weight seemed at best a secondary effect.  The Fuji is 28 lb while the Sam 
> is 30.5 lb., but I’m 210 lb.
> For another comparison, my 31.5 pound Soma Saga Disc heavy touring bike 
> averaged just less than 11.1 mph on the same 5 trials.  It’s big chainring 
> has 44 teeth.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: measured speed differences between road and touring bikes

[A. Douglas M.]

Between my drop bar Bianchi Virata on 650b38 (parimotia) and my Bianchi 
Volpe with albatross bars and a porteur rack and bag, the difference was 
notable. The Volpe was comfortable and a blast around town. When I tried to 
go on long rides with it, it seemed to fight me after 40 miles or so.

The Virata was fast and smooth and only my posterior hurt. But the drop 
bars weren’t as comfortable around town. Worse visibility too. 

I think the biggest difference is just position and wind resistance.

I do find it easy to go faster riding fixed gear, at least on the flats. 
The only time I could ride with the weekly A group was fixed.

Best,

Aaron

On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 4:34:26 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I meant to add qualifications: flat terrain, paved surfaces, negligible 
> wind -- the huge, almost 30" tall tires, and 80 mm fenders on the Matthews 
> 1:1 do indeed seem to catch the wind more than the stripped, 24 3/4", 28 mm 
> wheeled gofast.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:31 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I've not made any rigorous measurements, but casual measurements that 
>> don't isolate all non-riding time pauses, as stoplights, stops to adjust a 
>> shoe or consult a phone, or weed out all the pre-ride shuffling and 
>> preparation after I set Cycle meeter in motion, but don't include any very 
>> large pauses like 20 minutes in a store, seem to back up my seat-of-pants 
>> impression that ss is not itself a cause of large speed differences.
>>
>> I've recently ridden my 1999 Joe Starck light (18 lb) gofast 76" gear 
>> fixie shod with ineffably nice Elk Pass tires and yes, it does indeed seem 
>> particularly fast, faster than my 2020 Matthews 2:1 build along same lines 
>> but ~8 lb heavier, Naches Pass Regular instead of EP ELs, and with AM hub 
>> epicyclic and SON 20R dynohub powering Edeluxe1 and 2 small tail lights. It 
>> *feels* faster, as in ease of maintaining a cadence in a given gear in 
>> given terrain.
>>
>> *BUT!* Riding my 2015 Matthews 1:1 "road bike for dirt" with 2X10 
>> drivetrain and 700C X 61 mm Big One extra lights: nope, this bike *feels* 
>> just 
>> as fast as the 1999 Joe, and such times I've recorded on Cyclemeter 
>> indicate that it's not slower in average speed. 
>>
>> This proves nothing at all, but it might indicate that there are causes 
>> of speed differentials amongst which the slightly lower friction of a ss 
>> drivetrain simply disappears.
>>
>> Now, as to *handling,* there's not question which is "better."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 8:28 AM Joel Levin  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd venture that the geared vs. singlespeed difference is playing a 
>>> major role.
>>>
>>> I'm always much faster on singlespeeds when the route involves climbing. 
>>>
>>
>
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>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: WTT 53cm Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Swapped the bars for 45mm Nitto B115s and a VO stem. Changed out the 
colored cable housing to Ultegra gray housing. Just ordered some maroon 
tape and twine from Rivendell (along with Tosco bars for my fillet brazed 
MTB).

I’ll get it taped up and take some better photos. 

Price will be $2300 shipped. 

Thanks!
On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 9:37:56 PM UTC-6 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> [image: FB25B041-2B7D-4704-AD6D-B1A0BE7816CE.jpeg]
> Ok, it’s up on the chopping block. Still interested in trades but here is 
> the build:
>
> 53cm frame in very good condition (one small scratch on NDS of top tube)
> Alex Meade 50cm fillet brazed stem with Salsa Cowchippers (unwrapped while 
> I got fit down)
> Tektro TRP levers
> FSA headset
> Tektro 556 brakes
> Gravelking 35 SS on velocity A23 rims laced to formula hubs (both can be 
> set up tubeless but are not currently)
> Phil Wood bottom bracket 110
> Sugino XD crank with 40t wolf tooth chainring and 32t willow chainring
> Surly 18t fixed cog and lock ring
> White industries 16t freewheel
> KMC chain
> Nitto S85 seatpost
> Vintage Brooks professional 
> No cages or pedals included
>
> Between the fillet brazed BB and custom HT lugs it’s a beautiful frame and 
> I’m disappointed it doesn’t fit. 
>
> $2400 and I’ll take care of shipping. All parts have very low mileage 
> (like maybe 100 miles) except the saddle and wheels. I think the wheelset 
> has ~300 miles. 
>
> I could swap the bars and stem to a VO/Nitto setup and reduce the cost by 
> $100.
>
> Thanks! Feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso 
>

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[RBW] Re: My Susie build

[A. Douglas M.]

I like the anodized bits mixed in with the black components. Where did you 
source them? 

Modern style for a modern Riv!

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 
On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 9:12:12 AM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> Oh, you answered my question in your post. Nice saddle!
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 11:11:29 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I like it! To my eyes the black, silver, and Rivendell blue look classy 
>> and suits that style of bike. On another note, I have become a fan of 1x 
>> for it's practicality and relative simplicity. What saddle is that Joe?
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
>>
>> On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 12:34:35 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> This started as a bike with mostly silver parts, then my custom got Paul 
>>> Motololites so the black v-brakes migrated to the Susie, then I sold the 
>>> Boscos and Billies were out of stock and I had black stem so I grabbed a 
>>> black Ahearne bar, then Doug H had a black post for sale and... basically 
>>> parts kept landing on this frame and I'm not sure the look makes sense but 
>>> I like it! 
>>>
>>> 53cm Susie/Wolbis
>>> Stock wheels from a Clem, 27.5 x 2.4 Thunder Burts
>>> SRAM Rival 1 derailer
>>> Apex trigger (upside-down, left side, my right thumb is dodgy for 
>>> shifting)
>>> SunRace 11-50 11-speed cassette 
>>> Connex black/gold chain
>>> Sugino XD600 152mm cranks with 36t and guard
>>> XT v-brakes and levers
>>> FSA headset
>>> Origin8 31.8 face plater
>>> Ahearne bars
>>> Ergon grips
>>> Nitto S83 post, cerakoted black by Analog Cycles
>>> Berthoud saddle, ti rails, can't remember name 
>>> Rose/pink bottle cage bolts, crankbolt cap, valve caps, derailer crimp
>>> Green chainring bolts, brake crimps
>>>
>>> You really gotta ride one of these. I don't know what an old Repack 
>>> cruiser rode like, but I'm fairly certain it was kinda like this: it's 
>>> long, it's floaty! 
>>>
>>> More pics on my Instagram 
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CRc34K3lVAl/?utm_medium=copy_link
>>>
>>> Joe "@RideyMcBiker" Bernard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTT 53cm Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello all,

I recently bought a 53cm Frank Jones Sr frameset which was advertised as a 
55cm. Bummer.

I can get my money back, but that is a lose lose (for me and the buyer), so 
I figured I’d see if anyone here wanted to trade for this very rare 
frameset (I have a whole build which could be an option). 

The frame is in very good shape in the beautiful homer blue and would come 
with the FSA headset.  Geometry details are on the blahg or blug. But it 
has an ETT OF 55 for PBHs of 79.5 - 83. 

I like Rivendells, so let me know what you got off list.

Thank you!

Best,

Aaron “looking for a win win” in El Paso 

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[RBW] Re: WTB. Nitto Faceplater 31.8

[A. Douglas M.]

Brenden,

I gave in and purchased the Discord Fingerling quill stem from Analog.

Good luck in your search!

Best,

Aaron

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:58:21 PM UTC-6 brenpe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello Everyone, 
>
> I just received the Tumbleweed Persuader bar for my Atlantis and in NEED 
> of a Nitto Faceplater stem 31.8 in either a 60mm or 85mm? I noticed Doug M. 
> Is looking for one as well if anyone has either of these sizes and willing 
> to sell LMK! 
>
> Thank you,
> Brenden 

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[RBW] WTB Faceplater 31.8 85mm

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello all,

Trying to finish up a Frank Jones build. I’m going to run Salsa cowchippers 
and need a 31.8 quill. 

Anyone have one laying around they’re not using?

Thank you!

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

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[RBW] Re: Riv'ing out a kids bike

[A. Douglas M.]

I zip tied a strawberry basket to my son’s handlebars and he loved it. 

They all have bells.

I also cut up reflective tape and let him put it where he wants. 

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 
On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:13:25 PM UTC-6 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Great topic.  The approach at our house was, I took my 7-year-old daughter 
> to the art supply store and she picked out spray paint.  Then we stripped 
> her bike (a very un-Riv hand-me-down with a suspension fork and grip 
> shifters) to the frame and hung it from a tree branch, and she painted it 
> (green and blue, it took her 5 minutes).  Then we put it back together 
> (mostly I did, but she helped) and put a basket on it.
>
> So it's Riv'd out in the sense that she made choices about it, the whole 
> process was fun, and she loves it.  She knows how the gears work.  When 
> she's taller we'll find another cool frame and then we'll work on friction 
> shifting.
>
> We kept the components intact, including the handlebar--she doesn't care 
> about that.  We added a bell and the gaudiest reflectors I could find.  And 
> we didn't spend much money, so I don't freak out when I see it standing in 
> the driveway without a lock on it.
>
> Jim in Rochester
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:06:05 AM UTC-4 gabe.de...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking about this a lot lately and wanted to know if anyone 
>> has done this to a kids bike. Did the children immediately roll their eyes? 
>> What kind of handlebars did you use? Most kids bikes come in either an 
>> extreme paint color or a highly feminine paint color, did you repaint it to 
>> something more pleasing for everyone?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[A. Douglas M.]

This is such an interesting topic from a sociological perspective. 

The idea that we don’t want to talk about costs with others has always 
confused me. My wife says it’s because people make judgments about others, 
but who cares?

Ultimately, it’s a conversation about the application of subjective values. 
Do Rivendells cost a lot? To me, with my income, yes. To others with 
theirs, no. Do I think they’re a great bargain? Totally. Do I care if 
someone thinks I spent too much? No. Unless I overpaid out of ignorance, 
but that’s really my own fault.

I wouldn’t want a comeback for someone having a different opinion of value 
than me. It’s one of the great things about people. We value things 
differently. Even people spending the same amount on a specialized carbon 
bike would think were silly for spending that much on a heavy steel bike. 
And what do we think of their purchase?

Did you know some people don’t like Brussels sprouts? I can’t believe it 
either.

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 
On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 3:50:29 PM UTC-6 Kushan wrote:

> Speaking of mid-life crisis car, I am going to need one of these 
> 
>  
> for my bike :) 
>
> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:21:23 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> I 100% agree with Joel Stern - better to simply not state how much it 
>> cost.  Cost, like many things, is relative.  What is inexpensive for some 
>> is extravagant for others.  Keep the cost private.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 8:43:51 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Of the few people I have told about the cost of the bikes I have only a 
>>> couple get it, one is a bike guy.  Most people will not get it.  It’s the 
>>> same with guitars, cameras, etc.  Best to not discuss with those that 
>>> really do not get it.  For most $1,000 is an extravagant bike.  Jewelry, 
>>> watches, best not to discuss.  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 11:12:57 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 Wife and recently marked the 10th anniversary and decided to get each 
 other nice presents. She is getting me an Appaloosa built and I got her 
 something she really wanted in the jewelry department (of 20-30% higher 
 value than the bike). 

 We are both financially responsible people, don't live lavishly, and 
 can afford both items. However, the reactions of the friends and family 
 who 
 hear about our gifts and their values have been somewhat puzzling for me. 
 While no one has given a second thought to the price of the jewelry, the 
 reactions on the bike have almost universally been that of astonishment. 
 And these are from people who know me well, know I enjoy cycling, and that 
 I only have one bike right now which I am planning to sell when the new 
 one 
 arrives.

 So that got me thinking, I can't be the only one who has experienced 
 this. What are some other similar stories? More importantly, what do you 
 say to a well-meaning loved one when they ask things like "$3500 for a 
 bike?" and "but isn't your current bike orange too?"

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Do you stand and pull with upright bars?

[A. Douglas M.]

Zack,

I ride albatross bars with Avid MTB levers and thumbies. No problem 
standing to climb or sprint. 

I really like albatross bars. I might try Billie bars someday but I’m cheap 
and albatross work so well I might not. 

Mine are shimmed in a 26.0 tallux. No squeaks or issues. 

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:55:40 AM UTC-6 Erik Wright wrote:

> Hey Zack,
>
> I ride with Albatross bars on my Hillborne. I also do a lot of city riding 
> in Philly where just about every intersection has a stop sign. I stand & 
> pull all the time from just about every hand position on the bar. In my 
> opinion, it's fine. The one thing I'd say is to make sure you either use a 
> 25.4 stem or get a shim for a 26.0 stem- the bars WILL scooch around with 
> aggressive pulling.
>
> Erik, Philly
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:05:52 AM UTC-7 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> Hi Zack,
>> I stand to climb even with a full load on my touring bike. Alabas are at 
>> my bare minimum width for this, but body types vary. I transitioned to a 
>> wider bar and enjoy it more than the albas on this bike. The bars are 
>> generic chrome steel from a bike I bought long a go, but they just work. I 
>> had the bike loaded up for a test run this week and climbed well for me 
>> standing. When climbing or acellerating as you describe, I pull on the bars 
>> and rock the bike. 
>> Go for it.
>> Tom Palmer
>> Twin Lake, MI
>>
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:49:48 AM UTC-4 zem...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I've been interested in switching to albatross bars but one of my 
>>> concerns is that it'll be difficult to stand, pedal hard, and pull on the 
>>> bars. I do a lot of city riding, so being able to do this from a stop or 
>>> rolling stop is a key part of my riding. 
>>>
>>> I've watched Dan Stroud's (aka hobocross) video on how he sets up his 
>>> albas to have more of a "hoods" position, which seems like a natural 
>>> solution to this problem, but in his video he doesn't seem to stand and 
>>> pull a whole lot. 
>>>
>>> Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGokAt6XAi0=152s
>>>
>>> Anyone have thoughts/experience with this?
>>>
>>> Zack
>>> Toronto/DC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rack mountable UBS lights

[A. Douglas M.]

https://www.biketinker.com/2010/projects/cork-light-mount/#more-41

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:10:56 PM UTC-6 Nathan F wrote:

> Kushan,
>
> Most USB lights won't natively mount to your rack, and those that do (like 
> the Blue Lug Koma on Crust Bike's webstore) are daytime safety blinkers, 
> not serious headlights. To use something bright enough to actually 
> illuminate things, you'll need to use an adaptor like the Paul Gino or 
> Problem Solvers Braze-On Light Mount.
>
> - Nathan in pdx
> On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 19:51:44 UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Hi all - 
>>
>> Does any have recommendations for a decent rack mounted USB light? My 
>> rack 
>> 
>>  
>> has braze-ons for mounting lights but finding lights for them is proving to 
>> be harder than I thought. Most USB lights 
>>  
>> on the market seem to have clip-on, handlebar type of the mount. 
>>
>> I don't ride much in dark but like to have non-fancy but good (200 lumens 
>> or more) USB lights on me just in case. I currently use handlebar-mounted 
>> ones but starting to run out of HB real estate and would like to move the 
>> lights to the front rack.
>>
>> Best
>> Kushan
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[A. Douglas M.]

I never understood the point of arguing with an officer in these 
situations. It only serves to prolong the incident? I also find it 
interesting to see animosity towards people doing their job from what is 
usually a super friendly group of people. (Cyclists and especially RBW 
cyclists)

I’ve never been pulled over on my bike in spite of doing many stop sign 
slow rolls. I have however set up many operations where I had a law 
enforcement officer on a bike with a radio and a marked car behind them. 
The officer would ride and report when vehicles passed too closely in 
violation of state law. Then the vehicle would be stopped and driver 
educated.  Those quickly got the word out that cyclist safety was being 
taken seriously along that busy stretch of highway. 

Best,

Aaron
On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:16:15 AM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Like Justin, I've receive 2 tickets for rolling through stop signs, in the 
> middle of suburbia. One was riding to daily class to CSUN in Northridge CA, 
> second one coming from a geo friends house, different neighborhood but same 
> town. First time I refused to give the cop physical proof of my identity 
> because I was so angry that I was being pulled over at a 4-way stop you can 
> see 100s of yards in all directions. I think I slowed enough to stop but 
> did not put my foot down. Threatened me with jail, so he followed me to my 
> house and confirmed by identity with my girlfriend then wrote the ticket. 
> Last time, like you Joel, I "matched" the identity of someone who just 
> robbed a bank. I wrote that up on the ibob list, the list topic was "Do You 
> Have a Name for Your Bike?"  The Schwinn Voyageur was then called the Bank 
> Robbery Bike after that traffic stop.
>
> Mike ticket free Godwin in smokey SLO CA
>
>
> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-7, Joel wrote:
>>
>> I was out today riding one of my usual routes. I had just gotten back on 
>> the bike (my Bleriot) after stopping to adjust the angle of my Albatross 
>> bars. I was pedaling and all of a sudden out of my mirror I saw some lights 
>> flashing and I pulled over. I got off the bike as a very young officer 
>> walked over to me. I asked him if I had done something wrong, maybe riding 
>> to fast (yeah I know being a wiseass is not really a good things). He asked 
>> me if I had just come from a street which was one I was actually heading 
>> towards.. I told him no and explained where I had ridden. It seems some guy 
>> asked a lady for directions, there mush have been more to it, he was on a 
>> bike, and I fit the description I was told. I was wearing  a short sleeve 
>> gray sweat shirts as it was an unusually chilly day today and a Rivendell 
>> cycling cap from years ago. Another officer arrived smiling, he was the 
>> officer in charge. I put up my hands and said it wasn't me and he started 
>> to laugh.He explained to me they were looking for a guy in a gray members 
>> only jacket and a baseball cap with dark hair, my hair is silver/white.
>>
>> We talked for a few minutes, they apologized and I said no need. I went 
>> back on my ride and now was on that street wondering if a woman would come 
>> out of her house chasing me.  
>>
>> In a way I had a good laugh but I wonder what this guy did to make this 
>> woman call the police. This was not my town but 2 towns away in CT while I 
>> live in MA. So something was up.
>>
>> So I wonder if any of you have ever been pulled over on your bike?
>>
>> Joel
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Valuating modified 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel custom frame FS

[A. Douglas M.]

What is max tire width? 559 with a narrow tire is relatively uncommon. 

Best,

Aaron

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[RBW] Valuating modified 2003 Curt Goodrich 26" wheel custom frame FS

[A. Douglas M.]

I love your customs, Patrick, but they are tough sales as single speed unique 
geos by a low production builder.

Looking on eBay custom frames have been going for $500 (No rad racks). The only 
two recent sales going for 1200 and 2000 were a Pegoretti and Vanilla 
respectively. 

I’m sure you could get more but I’d imagine it would take a while. I’d list it 
for $1500 and start a dialogue with any potential buyers. 

FWIW I always have at least one single speed in my quiver. 

Best,

Aaron

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[RBW] Re: Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[A. Douglas M.]

I love it, Deacon. Looks very comfortable. 

Also love 4 bottle cages! 

Thanks for posting. 

Best,

Aaron

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[A. Douglas M.]

I agree, Joe! They’re awesome people, and they make really fun and functional 
parts and bikes that I can actually afford!

Grant brings a lot of really cool designs back into the mainstream, and I’m 
grateful for that. VO proves there is room in the market for companies in the 
same innovative, practical manner.

Best,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus Excitment on IG

[A. Douglas M.]

Those decals are gorgeous. One of the better ones in a while!

Thanks, Leah!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[A. Douglas M.]

The more I look at it, the more I understand it’s the contrast between the lone 
swoop and all the straight tubes that my eyes dislike. I think if the bike had 
more swoops, it would blend better. 


I even made an awful drawing to illustrate.

Best,

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[RBW] Re: Seeking rec's for short threadless stem with rise

[A. Douglas M.]

I’d love to see pictures when you’re done, Deacon! I have a Cigne waiting on a 
drop bar 29er build but am interested in what they look like with upright bars.

Best,

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[A. Douglas M.]

I agree, Carl; it is a good reason to celebrate! I’m sure the Gallop rides 
blissfully. I like the swoop on the Clems, I like the swoop on the Atlantis, I 
like the diagotube on the Hunq. I’m just not finding this swoop to look good to 
my eyes. 

I guess that makes me a retrogrouch. 

Best,

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[RBW] Seeking rec's for short threadless stem with rise

[A. Douglas M.]

Deacon,

The challenge with this situation is finding a “Riv” like solution. When I had 
the same need as you, I was looking at a DMR Defy 50 stem. Threadless, 50mm 
(available in 35mm too) and 5mm of rise. It looks good in a robot CNC machined 
sort of way but not in a lugs and leather sort of way. Cost about $50 online. 

Other than that I was looking at $125+ options from Paul, Crust (Nitto), or 
Analog. Too rich for a stem for me. 

Best,

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[A. Douglas M.]

I was excited about this project but seeing that frame does not make my eyes 
happy. It reminds me of a cheap “compact” road frame that manufacturers make to 
offer fewer sizes. 

I guess that fits into the less expensive mold, but I was hoping for something 
more closely akin to a tig welded AHH with longer stays. I’ve stared at this 
picture a lot this morning trying to appreciate the top tube to no avail. 

Maybe it will look better with a Tallux stem? Maybe it would look better with 
bent seat stays? The top tube as shown would really only help stand over 
clearance further midway along itself. When I dismount I stand over the segment 
of TT immediately in front of the saddle. I guess I’m trying to understand the 
practical advantage of the swoopy top tube. 

Best,

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Re: [RBW] 1x9 11-50t friction shift set up for GBW/Suzy

[A. Douglas M.]

In this same vein, I’m running the Microshift Advent 9 speed 11-42 derailleur, 
cassette (Steel), And trigger shifter. I think it came out to $130 or so for 
the group set, and it’s been great on my fillet brazed 29+. 

You could use their thumbies if you wanted friction shifting. I’m surprised 
these setups are not more popular for the price and quality. 

Best,
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[RBW] FS: Outer Shell Rack Bag BRAND NEW - $150 plus shipping

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello Ahmed,

I’ll take the bag, if it’s still available. 

You can email me at amillhe...@gmail.com. Sorry, I’m on mobile.

Thanks,

Aaron

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[RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[A. Douglas M.]

I love Wolbis Slugstone. It reminds me of being a kid and watching the original 
Willy Wonka. Thinking about a candy recipe secret agent named Slugworth. 

I also really like Frank Jones. Classic American blue collar name. 

I’m a big fan of Platypus. It fits great with the current, light-hearted nature 
of Rivendell. Plus, they are very cool animals. They feed their offspring milk 
not through nipples but by sweating it out their belly. Impressive. “I have 
nipples, Greg. Can you milk me?” A platypus wouldn’t find that line amusing at 
all.

Sadly, I think Roadeo and Roadini are missed opportunities. 

Best,

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[A. Douglas M.]

During his recent xbiking AMA on Reddit, Grant replied to a comment about 
quickbeams (and single speed fork ends) that the commentor will probably like 
the new bike Rivendell is designing.

It would make sense for Rivendell to release a singlespeed with the “new” Riv 
geometry. It’s been a while since the Frank Jones were released. 

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

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Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

[A. Douglas M.]

Great quote, Patrick. 

I love Rivendell’s cycling philosophy, and I think Grant is a great person. 

With that said, I prefer my bikes sans political commentary. 

I also really enjoy kale and my wife’s blueberry pie. They are also most 
enjoyable when separated.

It makes me sad to look at a beautiful bike and get distracted by politics, but 
I understand that business owners often want to use their position as a voice 
for unrelated philosophies. 

Best,

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[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

[A. Douglas M.]

Here, here, Patrick. I heartily concur. 

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

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[RBW] Re: Aero Albatross

[A. Douglas M.]

I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. Lots of good options it seems. 
I’ll look for a pair of cheap bar ends to try and go from there. I’ll update if 
anyone’s interested. 

Best,

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[RBW] Re: Aero Albatross

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Yeah that’s what I do, Garth (placing my forearms on the forward bend of 
albas). The problem with this isn’t width for me but that it’s awkward to 
control the bike with my forearms. Just a little something to grab onto would 
give me control and subsequently more comfort. So I was thinking aero bars or 
maybe those nubbins like Bridgestone used on their XOs. 

The top tube is good for me on this bike (58cm) for me at 5’10”ish. I’m using 
the steel hi rise Nitto quill stem that Riv sells to get the bars up over my 
saddle height. 

Thanks for your insight!

Aaron

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[RBW] Aero Albatross

[A. Douglas M.]

Has anyone had any luck putting aero extensions into albatross bars? I love my 
upright position 80% of the time, but on long hauls I sometimes like to lean 
into it and spin. Grips just forward of the bend would help immensely with 
this. 

Thanks!

Aaron in El Paso

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[RBW] A. Homer Hilsen in Cuba [Trip/Ride Report]

[A. Douglas M.]

Very cool trip! Thanks so much for taking the time to write down your thoughts 
and take some pictures. 

Do you have any better pictures of the bike and the LKLM rack? 

I found myself thinking my legs and that ferry have a lot in common. 

Best,

Aaron 

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[RBW] Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello J,

Many people rode 2.4 tires on rims with 19mm internal width before wider rims 
really caught on. Some people will tell you it makes it harder to lower 
pressures without sidewalks folding, but that is less relevant with tubes. 
You’ll probably get pinch flats before that happens.

I run Maxxis Ardent 2.4s on Magic 819s with no problem.

I say try it and see how you like it. Nothing catastrophic will happen. MTBR 
has lots of good info on this, too.

Best,

Aaron Millhench

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[RBW] A Few Photos From Saturday's Ride

[A. Douglas M.]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and images. I loved the photo in the high 
grass. Also a good reminder for me not to be a wimp when it’s hot!

Best,

Aaron Millhench

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[RBW] 25th Anniversary Riv

[A. Douglas M.]

It sounds quite interesting! 

With the special lugs it may well be an extended  project? Would it come out 
during the anniversary?

I hope it’s purple.

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Aaron

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Hi Riser stem

[A. Douglas M.]

Thanks for the update, Conway. I just bought one of these from Riv to hold up a 
Sim Works fun bar 3 on an old Panasonic MC7500. Great stem to play around with 
fit.

Best,

Aaron
Poconos

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[RBW] Re: Seeking wisdom of 29+ bikepacking vs. 2.1”

[A. Douglas M.]

I have a pugsley running 26x4, and Im not sure cost is the right word regarding 
climbing. The traction is unbelievable (a good thing) as is the ability to roll 
over obstacles. Another facet in the GBW’s favor would be the long chainstays. 

The downsides would seem to come into play more on the third of your travels 
which happen to be upon pavement.

Best,

Aaron
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[RBW] Fun random happening at RBWHQ

[A. Douglas M.]

That’s a great story and great picture. Thanks for sharing, Bill.

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Re: [RBW] Rosco Bebe in the BLUG

[A. Douglas M.]

My little guy is coming up on two. How old/large a child would be 
comfortable/safe on one of these?

Aaron in ES MD

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[RBW] Rust proof question

[A. Douglas M.]

I usually pull the wheels, bottom bracket, seat post and fork out and spray 
away then give it a few minutes of gentle twirling. 

Like a beautiful lugged baton. 

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[RBW] Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[A. Douglas M.]

I liked the Voyageur Hypers in 38. They’re slick, so I’d lose traction going 
uphill in gravel or dirt. They have an excellent ride on flat gravel or 
smoother surfaces. They were also less than $20/tire. For rougher trails I’d 
like to try the gravel King’s or Steilacoom tubeless. I always end up riding 
mostly paved or dirt roads, though. 

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne Reimagined

[A. Douglas M.]

Beautifully executed. Reimagining an old bike satisfies in a different way than 
buying a new bike. They’re both fun!

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[RBW] Nitto Kite bar?

[A. Douglas M.]

I don’t see the angle of sweep on blue lugs site, but they remind me of my Soma 
Osprey bars which are very close to the Jones H-bar (no loop). 40 degree sweep, 
12mm rise, 710mm width. Great bar for long top tubes or Bikes that are designed 
to be used up right and on both asphalt and dirt. As most things, they are not 
as pretty as Nitto. 

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[RBW] Fixed Gear and Crank Arm Length

[A. Douglas M.]

I have ridden fixed on the street and light trails where I used a 165mm 
crankset (on a RB2 conversion and then on a QB). I generally ride a 172.5 road 
and 175 mountain arm length.  I really enjoyed the different feel the 165 gave 
me. If you get the chance, I encourage you to try it just for fun. You may find 
yourself sitting more. 

Best, 

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[RBW] Single speed handlebar recommendations

[A. Douglas M.]

I had Nitto noodles on my QB when purchased. It was ok, but Riv sizing lends 
itself to upright bars IMO (long top tube)0. I put on a pair of albatross bars 
and fell in love with upright fixed. Perfect for the mountainous city I lived 
in. Multiple hand positions, and like others, I enjoyed the widest the most.

 I put those bars on my wife’s bike and currently use a Soma Osprey bar. Really 
great and really wide. 

Have fun and mix them up!

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Re: [RBW] V.O. fixed wheelset?

[A. Douglas M.]

I also had concerns about the VeloMine wheels. I called up and spoke with the 
owner (can't remember his name), but he was extremely helpful. I asked if it 
would be a problem for them to check spoke tension prior to shipping them out. 
He stated that he'd be happy to do so. Something to consider!

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