Re: [RBW] My New-to-Me Rambouillet

[ANDREW ERMAN]

 Beautiful!!   Thanks for sharing.   Andy

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 4:22 PM Jeffrey Arita 
wrote:

> Hey Bunch,
>
> I always wanted a Riv Rambouillet and when the opportunity knocked I
> jumped on it.  I went for a proper ride this afternoon and it is the usual
> Rivendell ride: smooth, predictable, enjoyable!
>
> Special thanks to the previous owner and fellow Bunch Member (Jay
> LePree).  He carefully had the bike professionally packed for safe passage
> across the country.  The bike's frame and fork were all thoughtfully
> protected with pipe insulation and the front wheel was nicely tucked
> between the left crankarm, zip-tied to the frame.  Plenty of dunnage was
> used to occupy the void spaces, to prevent anything from moving within the
> box.  Cardboard boxes were also used to provide internal 'box' strength to
> prevent the long and thin box from crushing.  I could tell a lot of
> thought, time and care went into this packing project.  It arrived in
> perfect shape.
>
> The only things I needed to do was install the front wheel,
> seatpost/saddle and handlebar/quill.  Connect the two brake cables and it
> was done.  I didn't have the patience to reinstall the front mudguard,
> though!
>
> I wasn't too sure about the *Guidonnet *brake levers but by the end of my
> ride today I'm thinking I could get really used to these.  Yeah.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] In Praise of the Roadini

[Andrew Erman]

Love the picture and the setup.  I have a similar setup but no view as pretty.

> On Jan 24, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Bones  wrote:
> 
> Here's one more then. Nice freezing cold evening ride.
> 
> Bones
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-5 zem...@gmail.com wrote:
> Austin, let us know how the bike turned out!
> 
> I'm always on the edge of buying this frame when Riv brings them out. Each 
> new positive review brings me a little closer :)
> 
> Zack 
> Toronto/DC
> 
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:48:01 PM UTC-5 aus...@soundcoop.tv 
>  wrote:
> I'm in the process of building up my first Riv, a silver Roadini, and this 
> thread has me mighty excited. Thanks all,
> 
> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:46:01 PM UTC-5 Jeff B wrote:
> Seems I can only post 1 at a time in this thread. Must have been something 
> with the google change,
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Re: [RBW] Ending the year with a sunny ride.

[Andrew Erman]

Beautiful bike!!  Thanks for sharing.

> On Dec 31, 2020, at 9:45 AM, RichS  wrote:
> 
> Well done Bruce! So nice that your spouse wants to begin riding; she'll have 
> an outstanding coach:-) Hope to join you on some 2021 rides.
> 
> Happy New Year and stay well.
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 5:54:14 AM UTC-5 Fullylugged wrote:
> 
> I only needed a few miles yesterday to pass 4,000 for 2020. Only the 3rd year 
> I've gotten that many (work, weather, other tasks compete for time with 
> riding) but I did them on Louise, my 52 cm Rambouillet. Still rides as great 
> as ever. Bonus: My spouse has asked me to help her train so she can start 
> riding too and she came along for the pedal. If she gets bitten by the riding 
> bug, a Riv could well be in her future.  For now though, a comfort bike is 
> what we are using. Over 16,000 miles on this bike (and over 11,000 on my 
> second hand Riv Road) and I still recommend Rivendells to people asking, 
> "what bike should I buy?".
> 
> Hope everyone has a safe New Year Holiday and gets the miles they want in the 
> coming year.
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Andrew Erman]

Jason, my name is Andy.  Thank you for this post - your photos are art.

Best,

Andy

> On Dec 12, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
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> Rode the same route today, but freezing rain made it 50km of ice, basically.  
> What a day! 
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Re: [RBW] Orange Sam in the House

[Andrew Erman]

Beautiful!!

> On Sep 25, 2020, at 2:10 PM, True Golden  wrote:
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> Paul in Dallas
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Re: [RBW] RBW Business Model

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I enjoyed your post.  Thanks!  Andy

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:38 AM Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> There is a major flaw in the RBW Business Model.  They forgot to include
> planned obselence.  Really, how can you expect to grow a business when your
> products not only don't wear out they don't even loose their sex appeal?
> Certainly Trek didn't make that mistake and see how they have grown since
> 1983 when I bought a 620.
>
> Take my Saluki for example.  Serial # SA 00011.  I am more in love with it
> today than when I first got it.  Why would I want to buy a new bike?
> Bicycle Quarterly comes in and I look at the reviews of all the hot new
> bikes and quickly realize I wouldn't trade em straight up for my Saluki.
>
> OK, it now has a lot of touch up paint and I would probably get it powder
> coated if I could get my hands on some original decals, but the ride is
> just as joyful, no even better than new, and she still looks pretty good to
> me.  Instead of buying a new bike I can spend my money on fancy brakes,
> levers, tires from Compass, and TA Rings ("Well honey the rings were worn
> out and that's just what new rings cost.")
>
> So Rivendell, instead of pushing a needed replacement or a new improved
> model, is stuck with the job of convincing people that they need more
> bikes. Then you have to listen to your spouse - how you gonna pay for it,
> where you gonna store it, how many bikes can you ride?  It never ends.
>
> Unfortunately for Rivendell, my wife is still in love with her Betty Foy,
> so no bike sale this year.
>
> Michael
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Front Rack for Wald Basket

[Andrew Erman]

I have the large front rack from Rivendell.  Looks great.  I like the larger 
size compared to their other offerings.  Most importantly, it is rated for 
weight in the low 20 lb range - something I need.

Good luck!  Fun project.

Best,

Andy

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Raymond Henderson  wrote:
> 
> I just finished building up what I'm calling a budget-Riv for my partner, and 
> I used a Velo Orange Constructeur rack that I picked up cheaply on fleabay 
> with a Wald basket there. I really like the way it looks, and it seems to 
> work great. I can post pictures tomorrow if that would be helpful.
> 
> -Ray
> 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:22:56 PM UTC-5 BlackBomber wrote:
> Please do post pics of whatever you install (especially the Lucas). I’m also 
> looking to put a Rack on my Clem, and the Soma seems unbeatable for the price.
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Re: [RBW] Bosco / Clem riders: Do your knees hit the bars?

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Hi!  I have a Clem and I don’t have any problem  I have thumbie type
mounts.  Wonderful bike. Enjoy!   I have the 12 cm Tallux by the way.  Andy

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 8:53 AM BlackBomber  wrote:

> I'm in the process of building up a Clem H with 55cm Boscos, and a 115mm
> reach "7" stem. The stem is a placeholder until my 120mm Tallux comes in,
> but that won't give much more room. Note that a 45cm complete would have
> come with the shorter 110mm stem. Anyway, it seems like the bars and my
> knees will be in conflict on some turns. Something I'm familiar with
> (owning a couple of pre-WWII American bikes). I also have bar end shifters,
> although I think it would be a problem with thumbies, also. The bars are
> raised with the grips resting about an inch higher than my seat, and maybe
> a 10-12 degree rotation back. I'm 5'4" with a 79cm PBH on a 45cm frame. It
> was a toss up between the 45 and 52, and I felt more comfortable with the
> idea of a 45 as 52 is just about where I feel comfortable on a road bike,
> and I wanted more standover. Plus my converted MTB build I'm replacing has
> the same top tube length as my Clem, and I feel great on that bike.
>
> So my question is, when properly fitted, do these bars interfere with
> knees in real world riding, or did I pick the wrong size frame?
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Re: [RBW] Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[Andrew Erman]

Great looking bike!  I love it!  Good color!

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:59 AM, John Philip  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 10:02:09 AM UTC-4, Bill Fulford wrote:
> I’m quite confused about the handlebar set up with my Gus Boots WILLsen. How 
> would waivie bars with the nitto v4 work. I like a little forward lean as to 
> not have too much weight on the saddle. Tough decisions.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuter Tire for Hunq

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Marathon Plus tires are great on an E bike with a lot of power.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:20 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> For the OP, I've never used Big Bens to compare but Marathons are bricks.
> They will get you through the post-apocalyptic dystopia without many flats,
> but light and fun they are not.
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Re: [RBW] June Snow: Callooh! Callay!

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Beautiful!  Thank you for sharin and lifting my day

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 1:14 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> What a wondrous gift to wake up to!
>
> https://deaconpatrick.org/june-snow-callooh-callay
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

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Sounds fantastic!  

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 4:10 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
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> Today's weather matches the world's tumult. A gentle, steady rain on the 
> climb up, stiffer rains for me pipe, then amazing winds up to 60mph complete 
> with grit and falling branches whipping about as head and side winds, making 
> me work at least as hard on the downhill return trip as the climb up. I don't 
> care how stable the bike, 60mph blasts that gust, stop, switch 15˚ and blast 
> again, makes you ride wobbly. Grin. This afternoon, we've had boomers rumble 
> though with sheets of rain and sleet and pea sized hail. Pretty typical for a 
> Colorado spring. Grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] List Status Thoughts: So... here we are Saturday morning

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Thank you, Jim. I appreciate your thoughtful responsibility and
communication. I am grateful for this group. Best, Andy

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:20 AM Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> First - I want to thank everyone who took the time to share their views
> directly or through the other "OT" thread. It is humbling to know that you
> care enough about this community to have strong feelings, and it feels like
> everyone has the underlying desire to make this group a better place.
>
> That got me thinking about what purpose this group serves.
>
> At the time of its creation, it was, in my mind, a refuge.
> I used the analogy of a "neutral ground" social gathering place - a pub
> where everyone left their weapons outside and agreed to find similar
> interests rather than inflame differences.
>
> The tone and tenor of the internet at that time had shifted a bit from the
> generally helpful tone (of say Sheldon Brown's expansive resources) to a
> more caustic approach (anyone remember rec.bicycles...?) and I felt it was
> important to create a supportive refuge. (There were other issues too which
> had to do with RBW's email list and such, but I don't want to digress...).
>
> Things have continued to change since 2007, of course. It's very difficult
> to have a reasonable conversation using only printed words in the best of
> times. Recently we have not been experiencing the best of times.
>
> So, that's what we have here, today. These times. Our group.
>
> Does this group matter? Is it important? Is the idea of a refuge viable?
> Is everyone so wired and induced to react that we cannot give one another
> the space to be wrong?
>
> I'm not sure I can answer any of those questions today, and ultimately
> they are maybe not all that important.
>
> I do know the following:
>
> - I have two blunt tools at my disposal for wrangling this group -
> deleting things and setting moderating levels for members.
> - I have limited time to manage this group (not a change - just a
> statement of fact).
> - I can also remove members, though I've only had to do that a few times
> in the history of this group.
>
> I've always felt this group isn't for everyone. iBob is a much more
> free-wheeling, broadly raucous group. I suspect there are groups and
> threads and gatherings on Discord, Facebook, TikTok, WhatsApp, twitter and
> a bunch of other places I'm not hip enough to know about, where bicycles
> are discussed alongside religion, politics, economic theory and other firey
> topics.
>
> This group - and the individual members who make it up - have lurched into
> and out of strong disagreement many times. Some of you I've known - through
> the old rec.bicycles groups - for more than 25 years. Which is kind of
> weird to write. So, I kind of shake my head and know that you'll
> self-correct, or understand a larger context where your most recent - and
> sometimes quite flippant and unfortunate - comment lives. But newer members
> may not know that, and don't understand us (any of us) to that degree.
>
> I ask those of you who have been here a long time and remain active to act
> with a little more car before pressing "Post" or clicking "Send". Everyone
> is on edge right now and it doesn't take much to spark responses.
>
> Which brings me back to wanting this group to remain a place of neutral
> ground.
>
> To that end, and to ratchet things down, here are a few thoughts:
>
> - For the next month (through end of July), let's truncate our email
> "footer" - name is fine, location if you want, even what Rivendell you ride
> or lust for. But let's excise any exhaltations, quotes, passages,
> businesses, links or other non-name-rank-serial number level info.
> - Please do not start non-RBW _bicycle_  threads. I will likely simply
> delete them for a while.
> - Ride reports encouraged, as always. It helps offset the buy/sell posts
> which proliferate here.
>
> Finally, a reminder - a thread continues only as long as people comment
> upon it. Nothing wrong with letting someone else have the last word.
>
> Be well, stay safe.
>
> - Jim / list admin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting on a Clem vs. an electric bike

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I forgot to mention I love riding the Clem!   Just a wonderful bicycle.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 5:44 PM Mark Roland  wrote:

> Hi Andy. Thanks for the comparison. I've been commuting by bike for about
> the same timespan, including on a Clem. For the last 5-6 years, my commute
> has been 5-7 miles each way. I commute in most weather.  It gets humid and
> hot here in the Hudson Valley in the summer months. I maybe ride a tad
> slower, but really, as soon as I arrive, pow, the sweat just materializes.
> Oh well. I change my undershirt and clean up a bit with a damp towel. The
> chance to ride in on a beautiful summer morning completely outweighs any
> worry about sweat.
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 6:51:02 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>>
>> Dear all, I hope you are weathering the many and terrible challenges
>> facing our country at the present time.  I am always thankful for bikes but
>> more so now.  It is good to have something in one's life, that one loves.
>> Grant's essay on the racial inequities regarding biking hit a nerve.  I
>> guess being privileged can mean taking things for granted, like being able
>> to ride a bike and not worrying about being singled out because of how I
>> look.  I digress.  I have commuted to work for the past 31 years.  Several
>> years ago I got tired of changing my clothes when I got to work and when I
>> left, so I bought an electric bike (a Stromer ST2).  My ride was faster.  I
>> did not sweat.  I could wear my work clothes to work (no need to change my
>> clothes).  I have logged around 6000 miles on the Stromer.  I have no
>> complaints about this bike.  It has been reliable and does the job.  A
>> while ago, I set my Clem up for commuting or carrying groceries or
>> whatever.  When the weather was cold (a relative concept, as I live in Los
>> Angeles), I decided to try commuting on the Clem.  My commute is 4 miles
>> each way.  I have been riding it ever since and my Stromer has sat largely
>> unused.  So here are the pros and cons as I see it, between commuting with
>> these 2 bikes:
>>
>> *Stromer pros:*
>> Fast (up to 28 to 30 mph, if I work hard, usually cruise in the low 20s)
>> No to little sweating
>> Comfortable (seat and front suspension)
>>
>> *Stromer cons:*
>> Doesn't quite feel like a regular bike - there is always a little
>> undefinable something (weight, moment of drag, not sure what it is)
>> Changing a rear flat is a MAJOR hassle as this is a rear hub motor and
>> removing the wheel is more difficult - I use Marthon Plus tires and
>> thankfully have had only one flat in the years I have owned the bike
>> The bike is very heavy (a. 60 lb.) so transporting on a trunk mounted
>> bike rack is more of a challenge
>>
>> *Clem pros:*
>> Comfortable (more than the Stromer, probably because I am going slower
>> and perhaps because of the long wheel base)
>> I get to enjoy the scenery more as I am going slower
>>
>> *Clem cons:*
>> I am back to riding in bike shorts and T-shirt and changing my clothes at
>> work
>>
>> Overall, I enjoy the riding experience of the Clem more.  It feels more
>> like a bike, which funny enough, it is.  I am enjoying the low tech-ness of
>> the Clem.  I look at the Clem (which is parked in my office) and I enjoy
>> the view.  I did not do that with the Stromer.
>>
>> I will probably ride the Stomer when it gets very hot.  For now, I am on
>> the Clem.  However, I am subject to change, like the weather.
>>
>> My best to you all.
>>
>> Andy
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: two rivendells for sale

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Robert, I would like to buy it.  I will PM you shortly.  Best regards, Andy

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:16 PM Robert Blunt  wrote:

> Very much still available.
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 5:13 PM ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN  wrote:
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>> Is the Cheviot still available?  I am interested.  If so, could you post
>> some pictures?  Thanks, Andy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

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Wonderful!   Thank you for sharing.  This brightens my day.  Andy

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:41 PM aeroperf  wrote:

>
> There are some really great photos here.
> I envy the camping and nature shots.  There are also great shots from
> morning, or evening, rides.
>
> I’m posting a couple more from the Nantes-to-Brest canal ride.  The canal
> was built to save French shipping when the British were blockading the
> Brittany coast.  It was finished in 1856 and quickly made obsolete by the
> railroads.  Since there was little flood control, the towns are built on
> the hills above it.  So, a day’s ride capped by a steep climb, then dinner
> at a cafe, and a bottle of wine.  It is now part of Euro Velo Route 1.
>
> My wife and I reconnect on these rides, while seeing places where we’ve
> never been.  Four-ish hours of biking a day let us discuss more than “What
> color do you want to paint the dining room?”  The only downside is that we
> have to finish the day's ride - our luggage is already at the next B&B.
>
> I’m deliberately avoiding putting a Riv into these shots.  There is a
> “daily post your riv” thread for that.  My Sam has made it through a couple
> of these trips.  Depending on the length of the ride, I used to be able to
> ship a bike as cheaply as renting one.
>
> Let's see if I've figured out how to attach a file...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Locking Up your Riv

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I use an Abus Bordo Granite (heavy but very well rated) to go thru the
frame and rear wheel and whatever I am locking the bike to, and a Tigr Lock
to lock the front wheel to my frame.  Both locks mount to my frame.  I also
tend toward being over insured.

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:36 AM masmojo  wrote:

> I have used a variety of locks over the years, but now pretty much use the
> Bordo almost exclusively for locking a bike of any value for any time at
> all. As mentioned it is reasonably difficult to defeat, it folds up
> compactly, has a carrier that can be velcro to your bike and isn't too
> awfully heavy.
> When I was commuting to work I  would leave a burly U lock locked to the
> stand so I didn't have to tote it back and forth.
> For quick locking lately I've been using a super mini U-lock by Odessey.
> It's only big enough to get around a frame tube a stair rail or some other
> 2" pipe, but it's made out of aluminum and it's super light. Likely quickly
> defeated with bolt cutters, but for a quick stop it'll deter all but the
> more sophisticated crooks.
> Typically my Rivendells and other super nice bikes are not left in "risky"
> locations.
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Re: [RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Wow!!!

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 8:39 AM Jim M.  wrote:

> In the foothills of Mt. Diablo:
>
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> [image: 2020-05-16-16-29-13.jpeg]
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> *Now I re-examine philosophies and religions,*
>
> *  They may prove well in lecture-rooms, yet not prove at all under the*
>
> *  spacious clouds and along the landscape and flowing currents.*
>
> Excerpt from “Song of the Open Road”, Walt Whitman
>
>
> jim m
>
> walnut creek
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Re: [RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[Andrew Erman]

Sweet!  Love the bike and scenery.  I have a Clem high but if I were to do it 
again, I would get the low step.  Yours looks great.  Andy

> On May 26, 2020, at 10:46 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> I love an evening ride; it's quiet and calm, I can hear the birds singing and 
> geese calling across the lake.  Tonight I left at 8pm to go check out the 
> lake boat launch at a nearby county park that had been closed due to Covid.  
> It's open once again and a few fly fishers were plying the waters.  
> 
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Re: [RBW] Recumbent help for Dad, un-Rivy post

[Andrew Erman]

Jeffrey,

I think the Greenspeed comes with a differential that powers both back wheels - 
I like that idea better than powering one back wheel only.  I think the Hase 
delta has that as an option.

I am wishing your dad mobility and good health.

Andy

> On May 26, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Jeffery Shepherd  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the suggestions and thorough responses. If he knew, my Dad 
> would be embarrassed, and thankful that all of you chimed in to help.
> 
> He is really only going to ride around the neighborhood and a wheat field 
> that has a gravel path running through. He has been walking more in the last 
> couple months, but is frustrated that he needs to stop to rest a lot. Lack of 
> mobility seems to be the driver. He's not going long distance any time soon 
> and I still don't know if a recumbent will be right for him. I just want him 
> to be safe and comfortable. Being comfortable is what I hope will help him 
> feel confident riding around the neighborhood. We'll do some longer rides 
> later if he can get over this hump. 
> 
> You have given me a lot to look at in only a short day. All I know about 
> recumbents is how fast they flew by me on the downhills of Iowa when I did 
> RAGBRAI years ago. One of the guys I talked to said he'd never ride a diamond 
> frame again. He said "so areo" – made me laugh. Thanks for teaching me about 
> delta and tadpole, I would have never thought about the differences.
> 
> The delta style would probably be better for his stability getting in and 
> out. I doubt he'll hit more than 5-10mph and will let him know Jeremy 
> Clarkson highlighted the instability of the delta design. Classic episode.
> 
> The Greenspeed Anura looks like it may fit the bill, but that's just the 
> online look. My LBS is a co-op, not really a dealer of new bikes. The 
> mechanic class instructor said she would ask her sales guy. It looks like 
> there is an Angletech dealer a few hours away.
> 
> Thank you all again. Any more thoughts/suggestions/opinions are appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:22 PM ANDREW ERMAN  <mailto:aer...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
> I agree with Joe.  If your Dad is not in great shape, a motor could be a 
> great bridge.  You can also check out Electric Bike Review.  They have a 
> category for electric trikes and some are upright.  
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:40 PM Joe Bernard  <mailto:joerem...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> post asking for an opinion. I was into 'bents for a few years and found them 
> to be quite a drag on climbs, and I extrapolate that out to an overweight 
> fellow with bad knees probably not being thrilled with the experience. If he 
> gets a motor then all that is out the window. At any rate it's an opinion on 
> a topic that really boils down to "ride as many as you can and pick what 
> works for you", which is what Bentrider Online is going to tell him. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recumbent help for Dad, un-Rivy post

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I agree with Joe.  If your Dad is not in great shape, a motor could be a
great bridge.  You can also check out Electric Bike Review.  They have a
category for electric trikes and some are upright.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:40 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> You can be baffled all you want, it's an opinion on an opinion forum to a
> post asking for an opinion. I was into 'bents for a few years and found
> them to be quite a drag on climbs, and I extrapolate that out to an
> overweight fellow with bad knees probably not being thrilled with the
> experience. If he gets a motor then all that is out the window. At any rate
> it's an opinion on a topic that really boils down to "ride as many as you
> can and pick what works for you", which is what Bentrider Online is going
> to tell him.
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Re: [RBW] Recumbent help for Dad, un-Rivy post

[ANDREW ERMAN]

A delta trike might work.  Stable and easier to get into and out of than a
tadpole trike.   You may want to look at Look at Greenspeed and Hase

Good luck.  I hope you find something that works for your dad.

Best, Andy

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:50 AM Jeffery S  wrote:

> My Dad and I talked last night and when asking him what he is up to he
> said, "making sure the couch isn't going anywhere." That is kind of what I
> want to hear when it comes to pandemic health, but later he said he wants
> help finding a recumbent. I have no idea where to start.
>
> He will be 68 next month, has had knee replacement on both knees more than
> once (injuries from being a former college football lineman), walks with a
> cane and is overweight – knowingly and self conscious of it. Not trying to
> call him out or rag on him, or anyone in a similar situation. I love him
> all the same and am really happy he wants to get out and ride. He just
> needs a bike that will work with what he's working with.
>
> Getting in and out of a chair for him isn't pretty, so I'm not sure a two
> wheel recumbent is the way to go. Maybe a trike for balance? Or an upright
> trike? This one looks ok, it's an ebike, but really not sure what to look
> for: https://hasebikes.com/98-1-Recumbent-Bike-LEPUS-STEPS.html
>
> Is there anything someone can suggest? From searching the RBW group I see
> some mention of recumbents, but this is probably not the right list to
> check out. Is there a better place to look that the googler isn't leading
> me to?
>
> The Riv owner in me thinks he should get a Clem L instead of a recumbent
> because he already knows how to ride this style of two wheeler. I have an
> old Schwinn step through in the garage I'm bringing him to see if that will
> be a solution before dropping some dough on a new bike/trike/whatever.
>
> Here's my Sam to make this a little more Rivy. Thanks in advance for the
> help.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Beautiful pictures and scenery.  I am sending you thoughts of caring for
your loss.  Andy

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:37 PM Lithocarpus  wrote:

> I spent the better part of four hours wandering around trails near my home
> in the Napa Valley trying out the new drivetrain on my hillibike-ish
> Atlantis.  I nearly always take photos on my rides.  I've done this for
> many, many years and used to take actual cameras with me before the advent
> of good quality cameras on phones.  This shot is from the top of Conn Peak,
> looking south over Lake Hennessey.
>
> I spent the better part of this ride pondering death. A colleague at work
> died suddenly this week and I've been processing all of it.  I've lost a
> lot of people over the years, as we all have I'm sure, but this one has
> bothered me in a different way.  He was in his late twenties and it makes
> it all feel really tenuous.  Being on my bike, riding, climbing hills,
> helps keep me grounded in the here and now and cope with the bigger
> mysteries of life and death.  It's another form of meditation.
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Re: [RBW] Hello and introduction

[Andrew Erman]

Welcome, Guenther!  Glad to meet another bike loving person.  I commute on a 
Clem Smith and I was thinking what a great ride that bike, and my Roadini give. 
 I look forward to having the same or better joy.  

Best regards,

Andy

> On May 16, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Gs InIllinois  wrote:
> 
> Have been on here for a few months, lurking around and getting some insights 
> into the world of RBW.
> Not an owner yet but getting one is definitely on the short-term bucket list.
> 
> Came here because I was looking for a Mixte for my wife when some Betty Foys 
> and Yves Gomez came up and research led me to this site.
> Decided to go a different route though and bought a new Soma Buena Vista 
> which I am currently building up.
> 
> Originally form Germany, I now live in the far NW burbs of Chicago.
> I am an avid biker (riding and collecting), did a lot of MTB while living in 
> the Alps but then switched to road bikes given the circumstances in IL.
> 
> Getting older, there is definitely a need for something more relaxing and 
> practical, i.e. hauling groceries, runs to the post office etc.
> So like I said, I hope I will be a proud owner of a Rivendell soon.
> 
> Looking forward to further tap into the vast pool of knowledge and advice 
> here on RBWOB :)
> 
> Cheers
> Guenther
> 
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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[Andrew Erman]

Beautiful bike!  I like the handle bars

> On May 19, 2020, at 4:21 AM, 'mark etze' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been following this group since forever because I have a Bridgestone 
> 400, but this is my first Rivendell. Originally a drop bar bike I converted 
> it to Soma Osprey bars, because I already have enough drop bar bikes.
> 
> I wish I had found the AHH sooner. Unfortunately the one in one out rule 
> makes my Bridgestone expendable.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[Andrew Erman]

Leah,

Here are some links.  My dermatologist said that people often don’t have sun 
related skin cancers after the 3rd one because they become more careful.  So 
far so good for me.  And I hope he is right!

Best,

Andy

https://www.roadbikerider.com/top-cycling-apparel-uv-protection/ 
<https://www.roadbikerider.com/top-cycling-apparel-uv-protection/>

https://www.rei.com/c/cycling-clothing/f/f-sun-protective-fabric 
<https://www.rei.com/c/cycling-clothing/f/f-sun-protective-fabric>


> On May 17, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Andy, did you attach a link somewhere and I’m not seeing it?
> 
> I’m so sorry about your skin cancers. Ugh, really scary. I had an end stage 
> melanoma patient once, and it really left an impression on me. I’m going for 
> my annual dermatology visit when this crisis is over. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 17, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Erman > <mailto:aer...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some 
>> clothing that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have 
>> never tried this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good 
>> luck!  As a recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your 
>> desire for protection.  Best, Andy
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> mailto:jonasandle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
>>> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
>>> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
>>> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
>>> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
>>> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
>>> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
>>> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
>>> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
>>> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>>> 
>>> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
>>> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
>>> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
>>> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
>>> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
>>> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
>>> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
>>> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
>>> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>>> 
>>> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
>>> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
>>> linen riding clothing? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[Andrew Erman]

Leah, you may already be aware of these products but there are some clothing 
that are designed to protect the active person form UV.  I have never tried 
this type of clothing in weather such as you get in Vegas.  Good luck!  As a 
recipient of 3 skin cancer surgeries, I can understand your desire for 
protection.  Best, Andy

> On May 17, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good for 
> living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 2020, 
> and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It seems 
> I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t you. “Are 
> you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty trail?” my husband 
> will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
> 
> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 90s 
> and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan line, 
> and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been wearing 
> some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover up. But how 
> do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine wearing pants and 
> long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin cancer, so I figured 
> I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
> 
> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me sweat 
> to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get linen 
> riding clothing? 
> 
> Thanks!
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Praise for the Hubbuhubbuh tandem

[Andrew Erman]

So cool!  What a great posting!  Thanks for sharing.  Inspiring


> On May 17, 2020, at 12:05 PM, CapNMike  wrote:
> 
> I haven't seen a lot of ride reports or comments about Hubbuhubbuhs so I 
> thought I would throw my hat into the proverbial ring. 
> 
> Last year we pre-ordered an orange medium frame Hubbuhubbuh and anxiously 
> anticipated its arrival. Parts purchase and assembly was accomplished via a 
> series of phone calls and emails with Grant and Will at RBW. They of course 
> made excellent recommendations and offered sage advice to guide me through 
> the process. 
> 
> I would consider the build to be typical of Rivendell with the exception of 
> the 9 speed trigger shifter on the right and the disc "drag brake" set up for 
> the stoker. The cranks are Silver triples and the cassette is Shimano 9 speed 
> 12-36. Handlebars are Bosco, 58 cm captain and 55 cm stoker. Wheels are 
> Velocity Tandem build sold by Rivendell and the tires are plump G-One All 
> Around. 
> 
> We are fairly experienced tandemers (sp?) if that is even a word. Our first 
> tandem was a Burley Rumba with Soft-ride that we purchased 10 years ago. Then 
> 5 years ago we added a Co-Motion Speedster. Those are both fine tandems but 
> the Hubbuhubbah is far superior in my experience and opinion. We live in 
> Amish country in Mid-Michigan and ride lots of rough paved and unpaved roads. 
> The stable handling and fat tires on the Hubbuhubbuh makes piloting a tandem 
> a dream. We initially thought that the upright seating and high handlebars 
> would limit this bike to short rides but we often find ourselves taking 
> longer exertions due to the comfortable ride and easy handling. 
> 
> Last fall we rode the 36 mile Barry Roubaix Fall Fondo. This is a casual 
> gravel road outing that follows the same roads as the springtime Barry 
> Roubaix Killer Gravel Road Race in Hastings, Michigan. It's safe to say that 
> we received a lot of positive comments about the tandem during the outing. 
> The bike beautifully handled all of the rough gravel roads and tough hills 
> that the area is known for. 
> 
> (I've attempted to include some pictures from the Fall Fondo ride. Hopefully 
> I will be successful). 
> 
> I was initially hesitant about the Bosco bars but am now a total convert. The 
> handlebars are very comfortable and I don't feel that the riding position 
> affects the speed of the bike at all. 
> 
> If you are on the fence about a Hubbuhubbuh then I say go for it!! You won't 
> regret a single minute spent together on one.  
> 
> If you are interested in a Burley Rumba as a cheap starter tandem and live 
> within a reasonable distance of Vermontville, MI then send me a message.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mike
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Re: [RBW] In Praise of RBW

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I agree Steve.  My experiences in person and on the phone have been
uniformly great.  Andy

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Everyone I know knows what I think about Rivendell Bikes – I have three
> and my wife has (had) one.  When I first learned about these bikes and
> Grant’s philosophy, it was as if I had found my cycling home.  No other
> bikes every seemed as wonderful.
>
>
>
> As a daily reader and occasional contributor to RBW Owners Bunch, I know
> there are many others who share my affection for Riv Bikes.  I have never
> taken the time, however, to talk about  R BW and the staff.  An event of
> this week makes me want now more than ever to sing RBW’s praises.
>
>
>
> Over the years, I’ve had many occasions to interact with RBW staff, mostly
> over the phone.  Once, while visiting my daughter and her family in the Bay
> Area, I went out to Walnut Creek, a kind of pilgrimage.  Grant gave me the
> kind of personal attention I am certain he – and Will, and Mark, and Vince
> and all the staff – gives every visitor whether a first-timer like myself
> or a regular.
>
>
>
> This week.  My grandson is just beginning to cycle – he’s been practicing
> on the flat top of a parking garage.  On Monday, I loaded my wife’s Betty
> Foy onto the roof of our car and headed over to the parking garage where
> she planned to ride with my grandson.  The entrance to the garage is on the
> top level and we drove in – or tried to.  Regrettably, there is a bar over
> the entrance that restricts the height of vehicles entering.  There was no
> sign and I did not notice the bar.  I ran into it and Betty was knocked off
> the roof.  Initially, it seemed like the most serious damage was to the
> stem.  It was bent pretty badly.  Otherwise, everything seemed like it
> could be put back together.
>
>
>
> After replacing the headset, I went to install the fork.  Ughh!  The top
> of the threaded section on the steerer had broken off.  My first thought
> was to reach out to Bilenky to see whether they could remove the steerer
> tube from the fork and weld on a new one.  A lightbulb went off and some
> dim memories of RBW selling just forks suggested I reach out to see whether
> they might have a spare.  I called and spoke with Vince.  I took the
> measurements he asked for.  Within 10 minutes, he called to let me know
> they had a replacement – and to cushion the blow and lessen my guilt, it
> was already painted in Betty Foy blue with the red mustache on the fork
> crown.  Vince sent it out the same day.
>
>
>
> What can I say.  What other company would even have spare forks for a
> nearly 10-year old bike, much less one that is already painted and will fit
> perfectly?
>
>
>
> RBW – and especially Vince – I remain a devoted follower!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I plan on pre-ordering!

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the best news!
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw
> on the Blahg.
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike.
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that -
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!!
> (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.)
>
> Let’s just let that sink
> in
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November.
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is
> a club I want to be in.
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website?
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 🤩😉
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[ANDREW ERMAN]

So great you have access to such a beautiful place!

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 9:49 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Got in a little a little deep into it today with the Clem - bunch of
> semi-technical XC singletrack as well as hike-a-bike and nice FSR type
> stuff too
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Clem a Hillibike?

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Cool video!

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:48 AM Adam Leibow  wrote:

> it depends how skilled your friends are VS. how skilled you are. the clem
> H is more than capable of riding fast technical stuff. i've done some fast
> technical offroad rides on my clem L no problem. i would argue suspension
> only helps if you are absolutely FLYING downhill. i know ive shared this
> video ad nauseam but this was shot on the clem L if it helps for reference:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B2LYQMQlCdZ/
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 11:01:47 PM UTC-7,
> theenchantingwizardofrhythm wrote:
>>
>> Hi there - first time poster
>> and coming at you from Tel Aviv, possibly(?) the only Riv owner this side
>> of Mesopotamia...
>>
>> I got myself a 59 Clem H which I love oh so dearly
>> My friends, equipped with hard-tail mountain-bikey-bikes, are going out
>> for a couple day off-rode ride that includes some singletrack.
>> They say I probably can't hang with the Clem.
>>
>> So what do you think?
>> Should I go out confident that the silver steed will hold its own?
>> or am I setting myself up for a world of pain and a bruised bike?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> gk
>>
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Re: [RBW] Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

[ANDREW ERMAN]

You are a good writer, Leah.  Thanks for the air story.  I enjoyed it.  Andy

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:41 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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> I nearly talked myself out of this thread because I’m about to make myself
> look really stupid, but it was so funny that I’m doing it anyway.
>
> I’ve been somewhat of a mess my whole Biking Life. I adored bikes, always,
> but I never had a proper bike education or a nice bike until 2012. I was
> born to the least mechanically-inclined parents on earth, and my mom was
> more proficient than my dad. I grew up riding the worst bike you can
> imagine, always with nearly-flat tires. Maybe once a year, usually in
> spring, Dad would haul my bike to the gas station and fill the tires with
> air. It was like riding on clouds. But eventually, my tires would lose air
> again and I’d have to wait until next year. Not that I’d notice anything
> was amiss - I was too busy riding barefoot all over small town North
> Dakota, falling out of trees, eating penny candy from the bowling alley and
> building forts. Tires, what tires.
>
> I grew up, went to college, met and married my husband, who grew up on a
> farm. We moved across the country with almost nothing and started our life
> and careers. My farmer father-in-law came to visit and outfitted our garage
> with tools he thought mandatory, including an air compressor. I think it
> was my 27th birthday that my husband told me he wanted to get me a bike. I
> knew just the one, it was *really* expensive at $125, but it was my
> birthday and I would get the best: A blue Schwinn Sidewinder from the local
> Walmart.
>
> While he was visiting, my FIL (again, a farmer and not a bike rider)
> noticed my bike tires were pathetically low. Of course I hadn’t noticed;
> flat tires were de rigueur for me! He filled them with the air compressor,
> pushed on the tire and declared it good. And from then on, that was how I
> did it.
>
> I’ve heard you all talk about your supple tires and not wanting them rock
> hard, and I knew *I* had supple tires because when I squeezed them, there
> was a tiny but perceptible give to the rubber. I mean, that’s what you all
> meant, right? So I made sure I never filled my tires very fully because
> supple tires were the ticket.
>
> I ended up with a floor pump last year. It has a gauge that tells you “how
> much pressure you runnin’”. I have started using it lately and began to pay
> attention to what my tire pressure was. 20-25. Huh. I remember folks
> discussing tire pressure and I didn’t recall theirs being so low. So, I
> asked Joe, who seems to answer most of the questions on the List and
> doesn’t seem to resent it. He (through fits of laughter at his keyboard,
> I’m sure) said that yes, I actually should be pumping up my tires to a
> certain number and that yes, they would feel rock hard, and no, squeezing
> them is not a good test, and indeed I would not explode my Big Bens (with
> max psi of 70) if I filled them to 55 psi.
>
> I was today years old when I learned that your tires are *supposed* to
> feel rock hard and be filled to an actual number. I was today years old
> when I learned that my “supple tires” were just tires that were low on air.
>
> Who else has managed to miss the obvious when it comes to bike stuff?
>
> Leah, who would like you to know she is smart at other things. Just not
> bike things.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mercian Vincitore

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Sorry for the car accident!  I hope you recovered fully.  Andy

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:05 PM Lester Lammers 
wrote:

> With that head tube, I'd guess that it was a custom frame. I had a King of
> Mercia years ago and it was a fine ride until it and I were hit by a car.
> There may be a serial number on the bottom bracket and I think Mercian may
> be able to shed some light on the head tube.
>
> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 6:47:00 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>>
>> Hi you all.  I thought I would share some pictures of a favorite bike of
>> mine.  I bought the bike many years ago because I loved the way it looked.
>> Please note the tall head tube.  I finally got it to ride comfortably with
>> a lot of help from Will at RBW (various stems and handlebars) and lots of
>> adjustment.  This bike taught me that having the handlebars elevated is a
>> good thing (for me).I found it in a bike store and was told that a mother
>> had ordered the bike from England for her son, who apparently did not want
>> it.  Anyway, here are the pictures of the bike in my office (I have the
>> best parking space at UCLA).  Best, Andy
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Re: [RBW] Fs: Rivendell Grabsack V1/original

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Hi!  I am interested.  Do you have a picture of it?  Andy

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:07 AM Gustavo Vasquez  wrote:

> Hi all! New to the group.
> I have what appears to be a like new (if not new) Rivendell Grabsack, this
> one has the “V brand” logo. Never really used it.
>
> Color is something close to tan/khaki
>
> $65 shipped within USA (PayPal), or $50 local pickup?
> Located in Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] Hemp twine Bay Area

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I have some Rivendell.  Tell me how many inches you want and I will mail it
to you.  Andy

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:51 PM Eric G@rs  wrote:

> I am looking for some hemp twine to re-wrap my handlebars and Riv is all
> out. Does anyone know where to find some in the Bay Area or have any that
> they'd like to sell to me? Lowes has jute twine, but it is pretty thick and
> scratchy. I live in the mission in SF, but willing to drive to the east bay
> or peninsula to get it.
>
> Eric G@rs
> SF
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Re: [RBW] Re: In Praise of the Roadini

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I hope you love yours as much as I do mine.  Superb ride.  Comfortable.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:34 PM Bruce Smitham  wrote:

> I just pre-ordered a 54cm Orange Roadini from Rivendell. I've had only 1
> bike for the last 3 years (Salsa Fargo Ti with Jones bars and Schwalbe
> G-One 27.5 x 2.8 tires) 1 x 11 XT drivetrain and dropper post. I can ride
> it all day long in any terrain and love it. So this is a big deal for me. I
> looked at the Crust Bombora and BMC Road+ but ultimately decided on a Riv.
> Feels good and looking forward to building it up when it arrives.
>
> Bruce in San Diego
> On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:56:29 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
>>
>> I bought a Roadini frameset a over a year ago and finally got around to
>> building it up during the crisis.  As a father of small children, my time
>> to ride outside of family rides and commuting is limited, so I was hesitant
>> to put money into a road bike.  I couldn't be more glad that I did.
>>
>> The bike is the most unaggressive-aggressive bike I have owned.  It has a
>> terrific riding position (I have a 90 pbh and bought the 61 to be on a
>> "bigger" bike and it was a good choice), and I feel like I am in the bike
>> as opposed to feeling like a rock in a slingshot.  It does everything a
>> road bike should do, and I don't get off feeling beaten by the road.
>> Anyhow, thanks to Grant for making a bike unlike any other bike brand
>> today.  I'm proud to be a two Riv garage (I have a Hunq also).
>>
>> Build:
>> Nitto Ui-12 31.8 Stem
>> Salsa Woodchipper Bars 46cm
>> Dura Ace 7400 Cranks (49/39)
>> Dura Ace 7700 Bar Ends
>> Sram 11-34 9 speed Cassette
>> Deore 9 RD
>> Sora FD
>> Mavic CXP 33s Laced To CK Classics
>> Schwalbe One 28s
>> Berthoud Saddle
>>
>>
>> I'll get a pic up soon.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Intro to Group!! Toyo AHH

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Beautiful bike!  Love the color

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:04 AM Garrett Berkey  wrote:

> Hello! I am new to the group and thought I would share my Toyo AHH with
> everyone. I have done a couple camping trips with rear panniers, and the
> frame really didn't like the weight back there (the flex through the frame
> while at a good speed and pedaling was scary). I even towed my dog when he
> was a puppy! He weighs 45lbs now so I am going to spare the Homer of
> pulling him. I decided to take the rear rack off and enjoy it as a rando
> bike. I love how confident this bike feels at speed on either smooth tarmac
> or a bumpy gravel descent. There are fewer and fewer people with rim brakes
> on the gravel rides, but this A Homer Hilsen will do just fine for a long
> time to come.
>
> Nitto Noodle, TRP Levers, Silver Long Reach Brakes, Phil Wood Hubs F/R,
> 2x7sp. Sugino XD Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto S83, Ultegra Headset + BB, Nitto
> Mark's Rack, Acorn Bags (just in case people were curious)
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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[Andrew Erman]

Dear all,

First, I appreciate being part of this discussion group and reading your 
thoughts on one of the favorite parts of my life (bikes).

My psychology of riding has been heavily influenced by Grant’s Just Ride, that 
he gave me when I purchased my Roadini.  I started to feel less need to meet 
the “shoulds” in my mind - I should ride fast, I should get my heart rate up, I 
should have an aggressive riding posture, I should only go for a ride if it 
will be long enough, etc.

My belief about riding was further influence by the TED Talk How Bicycling 
Connects Us At the Speed of Discovery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDubr-RjlCE 


I shifted my speed expectation to 10 mph, give or take a couple miles - I 
started to notice more stuff - shapes of trees, garbage on the ground, and I 
started to make more contact with other people - pedestrians, bike riders, even 
people in vehicles.  

I still struggle with getting irritated by walkers, riders and drivers whose 
behaviors interfere with where I want to get and how fast I want to get there.  
When this happens, and if I am on top of my game, I let the movement of others 
and myself play out, like some kind of disorganized dance, and then I am on my 
way again, enjoying the turn of the cranks, my feet on the pedals, feeling the 
wind in my face, looking at all the stuff around me.

Best,

Andy



> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:02 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
> We're far enough into this now that the end of pandemic, or at least 
> "opening"  is even a topic. I've sure had some collected thoughts. 
> 
> It's quiet. Air travel has clearly diminished to the point that I look up at 
> every plane that's on its long approach to the airport, 20 miles to the west. 
> Traffic is sparse and I can't help but see those out driving and wonder what 
> essential function they represent with their travel or if they don't care and 
> are just doing what they want. I'm amazed by the large numbers resoundingly 
> represented by the emptiness of the streets. 
> 
> Like other social norms, degrees of individual adoption of instructions and 
> information are visible. Being in healthcare I realize my professional 
> practice make me a critic of degrees of protective preparation for public 
> tasks if not to standard. The open display of waste using disposable PPE 
> incorrectly, without it having a chance of providing the benefit potential to 
> users who wear them, is maddening. Worse are those who appear to elevate PPE 
> like a spiritual protective icon and display such poor discipline in public 
> that they must believe in supernatural powers of their nitrile gloves, face 
> shield masks and (i'm not kidding) ponchos. People want to believe in 
> something and this situation has made it visible in public. Brand names or 
> branded items had been a way people differentiated themselves, now it seems 
> to be the procurement and display of PPE. 
> 
> I learned and used closed loop communication in critical moments in the 
> military and healthcare. It gives closure and verification that what you said 
> was heard, acknowledged, responded to in act and completed. It's ingrained 
> enough in me that I think the public health posture at all levels needs to 
> look at what they see on the street as their feedback because they won't see 
> much of their message being acknowledged intact. I hope the quiet majority 
> who are out of sight, at home, not touching things, not flaunting disposable 
> PPE but rather preserving them for the moments when its precious use is 
> necessary or using alternatives like bandannas suffice. Makes me think of 
> Hopi Kachina dolls that are given to those who will be respectful and care 
> for them responsibly. 
> 
> I ride my bike to and from work because it provides opportunity to connect 
> with the world while separating from both home and work while en route. Most 
> people at the end of a hard day have a little black cloud over their head 
> that goes right into their car with them to go home, little chance for 
> separation. I enjoy what the dark, the cold and the wet contribute to those 
> ends. Even more so these days. I have found a much more clear appreciation of 
> cycling these days and to my observation, so have many others. they are doing 
> it in pursuit of the act itself, in normal clothes, going places. The 
> performance riders in their kit and spacebikes seem to have reverted to 
> Peloton in their basements. 
> 
> We've "quarranteamed" with our young friend in her last semester of nursing 
> school. As the pandemic got foothold in the US and local actions were 
> imminent we reached out and invited to her to spend it with us at our house 
> for a number of practical and psychological reasons. It's been very helpful 
> for all of us to have a bit bigger table set for for meals and daily life. 
> She did insist on bringing her bike and we have been on many rides to 
> maintain perspective. 
> 
>

Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[Andrew Erman]

Roberta,

I was reading a little about the safety value of the Tigr lock - some of what I 
read was not favorable.  I use my Tigr lock to secure my front wheel because I 
don’t want to be bothered with removing it for locking.  Good luck with this!

Andy

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Andrew Erman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Roberta!  That is very kind of you.  The Tigr sounds like it could 
> address your goal of lightening your bike.  I have played around with the 
> idea of putting another Tigr lock on my Clem and leaving the Albus at home 
> unless I need it to lock my bike and my wife’s together.  My Clem is a little 
> beat up so I am not so worried about my inefficient lock fiddling marring the 
> paint a bit.  You are inspiring me!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Andy
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Roberta > <mailto:rchas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ha, ha!
>> 
>> I also have an Arbus lock (2 actually), but I'm so afraid of getting my bike 
>> stolen.  I'm down 5 pounds since our self imposed internment, but it doesn't 
>> seem to want to budge from there.  Congrats on your accomplishment.
>> 
>> My issue is lifting the bike onto trains, buses, cars racks, carrying it up 
>> and down stairs, etc.  If I know I'll be doing that, I carry a backpack and 
>> put the locks and water into the backpack.  Voila, my bike just got 5 pound 
>> lighter!  Although still heavy for me.
>> 
>> I'm glad you're posting.  Welcome.
>> 
>> Roberta
>> 
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 8:21:57 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>> Roberta,
>> 
>> On the plus side, the Tigr lock is light.   I needed some practice to easily 
>> get the locking device off the lock and then to reinstall it - still working 
>> on that.  I have had a learning curve to get the lock thru my seat stays and 
>> spokes, and to do it in a way that I don’t bung up the paint.  I have the 
>> bigger version of the lock but it is not long so I have get my bike very 
>> close to the object to which I will lock my bike.  Therefore, I look for 
>> skinny things to lock my bike.  I have an Albus u-lock on my bike which is 
>> rated very well.  It is very easy to use but heavy.  I decided to lighten my 
>> bike by losing 19 pounds off my body.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Roberta > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>> That's a nice color combination.  I've been thinking about getting a banana 
>>> sax, but what color?  My Joe Appaloosa is the same color as your Clem, so I 
>>> think I'll borrow from you and get it in blue. As my current goal is 
>>> lightening my Joe A. I'll be getting one or two of the new tigr locks. how 
>>> do you like yours?
>>> 
>>> Paul,
>>> Those magnolias must be quite a sight when all in bloom.  I've seen the 
>>> magnolias around here bloom before the cherry blossoms.  I hope you can 
>>> share a pic with us next year.
>>> 
>>> Leah,
>>> You have a wonderful artistic eye.  Now I know where #theclemrider gets his 
>>> talent!
>>> 
>>> Everyone else, it rained all day here, so when it was just a slight drizzle 
>>> I went for a 3 mile walk when the wind took my umbrella not quite 1/2 way 
>>> in.  Oh, well, it's not raining "too" bad.  Well, that lasted about 10 
>>> minutes.  No problem, I thought, I'll jump on a trolley and then a subway.  
>>> What I didn't know was the subway is now on a "skip every other stop" 
>>> schedule.  Guess which stop wasn't mine!  So, instead of being let off 3 
>>> blocks from home, I was let off 3/4 of a mile away.  Not an issue until the 
>>> skies opened up!  I looked like a drowned rat when I walked in my front 
>>> door.  I wouldn't have gotten any exercise otherwise, so I guess it was a 
>>> good day.
>>> 
>>> Pic are from outside the bike store I visited yesterday, where his 
>>> specialty is fixing up old steel bikes for commuters, pretty planting, my 
>>> ex-umbrella.
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:28:36 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>>> Lovely ride thru W LA and Santa Monica on my Roadini.  Came home and 
>>> swapped bikes to my Clem to go to the grocery store.   Came home with 17.5 
>>> lb in front and 26 lb in back.  Great to be able to shop by bike.  Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:12 AM in Dallas nick > wrote:
>>> Great sunset pics 

Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Excellent

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:45 AM George Schick  wrote:

> Regarding MUP's and trails, you all may enjoy this recumbent rider's rant
> at those who use/abuse the paths:  http://www.bentrideronline.com/?p=4132
>
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 6:40:11 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Bells are friendly, but don't work with too many walkers I encounter. Two
>> instances:
>>
>> First, was riding along a ditch bank road, saw a couple ahead taking the
>> width of the path, started ringing my Spurcycle bell 100' in advance of
>> passing; no reaction, so I passed. Man said, peevishly, "You should ring
>> your bell." I, already peeved myself, skidded to a stop and said, "I
>> started ringing it 50 yards back" -- a bit of an exaggeration, but not
>> grossly so. He replied, "Thanks for ringing." I, mollified, got back on the
>> bike, at which point the woman, standing next to him, said, peevisly, "You
>> should have a bell!" I pushed her into the ditch.
>>
>> A week or 2 later, I was riding north (fast, admittedly, with strong
>> tailwind) along a ditch road and saw a small crowd walking south, stretched
>> out across the width of the road. Rang Spurcycle like the dickens from well
>> in advance of passing; *no reaction!* I got within 30 feet and
>> deliberately skidded my rear tire, at which point all looked up in panic
>> and scattered. I continued on my way with a triumphant and scornful laugh.
>>
>> I replaced my brass striker bells with Spurcycles at great cost (the
>> black anodized one was 60 bucks), but sweet and piercing as they are, they
>> don't have the loud commanding NNNGGG of the large-size strikers.
>> (Confession: Long, long ago, I used to enjoy using a Zounds! air horn on
>> clueless pedestrians; tho' only after tiring out my bell thumb. They
>> jumped!)
>>
>> Seriously, I try to rein in my temper; after all, so many people aren't
>> used to shared routes. What is annoying is not so much the obstruction as
>> the cluelessness; and I remind myself that I too am too often not mindful
>> in other respects -- though I try to be. Mindfulness! It gets you so much
>> more out of life!
>>
>> Or I could obey Garth. But there's no fun in that!
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:15 PM Ray Varella  wrote:
>>
>>> I encounter walkers taking up entire paths quite frequently.
>>> Some ignore bells.
>>> So far, none of them have ignored a skidding tire.
>>> I lock up my rear brake when I’m way behind them, they always turn
>>> around and then move to the side.
>>> I think it’s the impending possibility that someone is about to crash
>>> into them that alerts them.
>>>
>>> Bells are friendly and they work with civilized people.
>>>
>>> Ray
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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Sky, my heart goes out to you with your challenging work.  I presume you
are in healthcare.   I wish you safety, lots of energy and good quality
sleep when you can get it.  Andy

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 11:07 PM Sky Coulter 
wrote:

> My riding has dropped to almost zero for April; i think i managed to
> commute to work at the start of the month once, but my shifts are 12hrs
> long And i’ve worked almost every calendar day since mid-march so didn’t
> want to risk further compromising my immune system. My next day off is May
> 7th and i’m very much looking forward to a bike ride.
>
> I’ve found people hereabouts - metrovancouver - are very responsive to the
> crane bell chime when i ring it on bike paths. Maybe its because the note
> hangs in the air and as i quickly approach they hear it getting closer,,
> but often they almost scramble to get out of the way. Sometimes i won’t
> ring it and i’ll just wait for an opportunity to go off the path to get
> around pedestrians if i don’t feel rushed and don’t want to startle them.
>
> In general people here abide by the
> animal>pedestrian>human-powered>motor-powered hierarchy on shared access
> paths. The annoying exception is the electric bicycle and scooter crowd.
> There is a narrow shared pedestrian cyclist path on the Patullo bridge i
> commute to work across where there isn’t room for two cyclists to pass each
> other. The signs actually request cyclists to dismount and walk their
> bicycles, although given its 800m long or so, that seems a bit
> unreasonable. But certainly most prudent cyclists, if traveling downhill,
> will pull over and hug the rail for the uphill cyclist when passing. Not so
> the e-biker.
>
> Generally i find they continue at full speed without moving over much at
> all, expecting the uphill cyclist to either stop and get out of their way,
> or to continue on, along the razor edge of the path with large trucks
> passing within a foot of the handlebar.  And they do it with a blissfully
> ignorant smile and not one whiff of bad intention.
>
> It’s really turned me off e-bikes a bit, although part of me would still
> like to put a copenhagen wheel on my clementine so i could commute even on
> the days i feel too worn out. But then i wonder how long it would be before
> i’d become exactly the rider that i loath when i’m sweatily peddling up
> that bridge.
>
> Sky in new west
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Andrew Erman  wrote:
>
> Too funny
>
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> Kicked her into the ditch, actually. But only in my sinful thoughts.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 5:44 PM Andrew Erman  wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> Great story!  Did you really push the lady in the ditch?
>>
>> I have an electric bike I used to ride to work (till a few weeks ago,
>> when I switched to riding solely human powered bikes) - I have Zound horn
>> on that bike to use with cars - it will definitely get people’s attention!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> Bells are friendly, but don't work with too many walkers I encounter. Two
>> instances:
>>
>> First, was riding along a ditch bank road, saw a couple ahead taking the
>> width of the path, started ringing my Spurcycle bell 100' in advance of
>> passing; no reaction, so I passed. Man said, peevishly, "You should ring
>> your bell." I, already peeved myself, skidded to a stop and said, "I
>> started ringing it 50 yards back" -- a bit of an exaggeration, but not
>> grossly so. He replied, "Thanks for ringing." I, mollified, got back on the
>> bike, at which point the woman, standing next to him, said, peevisly, "You
>> should have a bell!" I pushed her into the ditch.
>>
>> A week or 2 later, I was riding north (fast, admittedly, with strong
>> tailwind) along a ditch road and saw a small crowd walking south, stretched
>> out across the width of the road. Rang Spurcycle like the dickens from well
>> in advance of passing; *no reaction!* I got within 30 feet and
>> deliberately skidded my rear tire, at which point all looked up in panic
>> and scattered. I continued on my way with a triumphant and scornful laugh.
>>
>> I replaced my brass striker bells with Spurcycles at great cost (the
>> black anodized one was 60 bucks), but sweet and piercing as they are, they
>> don't have the loud commanding NNNGGG of the large-size strikers.
>> (Confession: Long, long ago, I used to enjoy using a Zounds! air horn on
>> clueless pedestrians; tho' only after tiring out my bell t

Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[Andrew Erman]

Thanks, Roberta!  That is very kind of you.  The Tigr sounds like it could 
address your goal of lightening your bike.  I have played around with the idea 
of putting another Tigr lock on my Clem and leaving the Albus at home unless I 
need it to lock my bike and my wife’s together.  My Clem is a little beat up so 
I am not so worried about my inefficient lock fiddling marring the paint a bit. 
 You are inspiring me!

Best,

Andy

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Ha, ha!
> 
> I also have an Arbus lock (2 actually), but I'm so afraid of getting my bike 
> stolen.  I'm down 5 pounds since our self imposed internment, but it doesn't 
> seem to want to budge from there.  Congrats on your accomplishment.
> 
> My issue is lifting the bike onto trains, buses, cars racks, carrying it up 
> and down stairs, etc.  If I know I'll be doing that, I carry a backpack and 
> put the locks and water into the backpack.  Voila, my bike just got 5 pound 
> lighter!  Although still heavy for me.
> 
> I'm glad you're posting.  Welcome.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 8:21:57 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
> Roberta,
> 
> On the plus side, the Tigr lock is light.   I needed some practice to easily 
> get the locking device off the lock and then to reinstall it - still working 
> on that.  I have had a learning curve to get the lock thru my seat stays and 
> spokes, and to do it in a way that I don’t bung up the paint.  I have the 
> bigger version of the lock but it is not long so I have get my bike very 
> close to the object to which I will lock my bike.  Therefore, I look for 
> skinny things to lock my bike.  I have an Albus u-lock on my bike which is 
> rated very well.  It is very easy to use but heavy.  I decided to lighten my 
> bike by losing 19 pounds off my body.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Andy
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Roberta > wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> That's a nice color combination.  I've been thinking about getting a banana 
>> sax, but what color?  My Joe Appaloosa is the same color as your Clem, so I 
>> think I'll borrow from you and get it in blue. As my current goal is 
>> lightening my Joe A. I'll be getting one or two of the new tigr locks. how 
>> do you like yours?
>> 
>> Paul,
>> Those magnolias must be quite a sight when all in bloom.  I've seen the 
>> magnolias around here bloom before the cherry blossoms.  I hope you can 
>> share a pic with us next year.
>> 
>> Leah,
>> You have a wonderful artistic eye.  Now I know where #theclemrider gets his 
>> talent!
>> 
>> Everyone else, it rained all day here, so when it was just a slight drizzle 
>> I went for a 3 mile walk when the wind took my umbrella not quite 1/2 way 
>> in.  Oh, well, it's not raining "too" bad.  Well, that lasted about 10 
>> minutes.  No problem, I thought, I'll jump on a trolley and then a subway.  
>> What I didn't know was the subway is now on a "skip every other stop" 
>> schedule.  Guess which stop wasn't mine!  So, instead of being let off 3 
>> blocks from home, I was let off 3/4 of a mile away.  Not an issue until the 
>> skies opened up!  I looked like a drowned rat when I walked in my front 
>> door.  I wouldn't have gotten any exercise otherwise, so I guess it was a 
>> good day.
>> 
>> Pic are from outside the bike store I visited yesterday, where his specialty 
>> is fixing up old steel bikes for commuters, pretty planting, my ex-umbrella.
>> 
>> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:28:36 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>> Lovely ride thru W LA and Santa Monica on my Roadini.  Came home and swapped 
>> bikes to my Clem to go to the grocery store.   Came home with 17.5 lb in 
>> front and 26 lb in back.  Great to be able to shop by bike.  Andy
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:12 AM in Dallas nick > wrote:
>> Great sunset pics Leah!
>> 
>> You ride in ruby slippers?
>> You didn't perchance take them off a dead witch, did you?
>> 
>> Ha!
>> 
>> I love riding in non bike specific clothing and shoes.
>> 
>> Paul in Dallas 
>> 
>> Paul in Dallas 
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Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[Andrew Erman]

Roberta,

On the plus side, the Tigr lock is light.   I needed some practice to easily 
get the locking device off the lock and then to reinstall it - still working on 
that.  I have had a learning curve to get the lock thru my seat stays and 
spokes, and to do it in a way that I don’t bung up the paint.  I have the 
bigger version of the lock but it is not long so I have get my bike very close 
to the object to which I will lock my bike.  Therefore, I look for skinny 
things to lock my bike.  I have an Albus u-lock on my bike which is rated very 
well.  It is very easy to use but heavy.  I decided to lighten my bike by 
losing 19 pounds off my body.

Best,

Andy

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> That's a nice color combination.  I've been thinking about getting a banana 
> sax, but what color?  My Joe Appaloosa is the same color as your Clem, so I 
> think I'll borrow from you and get it in blue. As my current goal is 
> lightening my Joe A. I'll be getting one or two of the new tigr locks. how do 
> you like yours?
> 
> Paul,
> Those magnolias must be quite a sight when all in bloom.  I've seen the 
> magnolias around here bloom before the cherry blossoms.  I hope you can share 
> a pic with us next year.
> 
> Leah,
> You have a wonderful artistic eye.  Now I know where #theclemrider gets his 
> talent!
> 
> Everyone else, it rained all day here, so when it was just a slight drizzle I 
> went for a 3 mile walk when the wind took my umbrella not quite 1/2 way in.  
> Oh, well, it's not raining "too" bad.  Well, that lasted about 10 minutes.  
> No problem, I thought, I'll jump on a trolley and then a subway.  What I 
> didn't know was the subway is now on a "skip every other stop" schedule.  
> Guess which stop wasn't mine!  So, instead of being let off 3 blocks from 
> home, I was let off 3/4 of a mile away.  Not an issue until the skies opened 
> up!  I looked like a drowned rat when I walked in my front door.  I wouldn't 
> have gotten any exercise otherwise, so I guess it was a good day.
> 
> Pic are from outside the bike store I visited yesterday, where his specialty 
> is fixing up old steel bikes for commuters, pretty planting, my ex-umbrella.
> 
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 2:28:36 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
> Lovely ride thru W LA and Santa Monica on my Roadini.  Came home and swapped 
> bikes to my Clem to go to the grocery store.   Came home with 17.5 lb in 
> front and 26 lb in back.  Great to be able to shop by bike.  Andy
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:12 AM in Dallas nick > wrote:
> Great sunset pics Leah!
> 
> You ride in ruby slippers?
> You didn't perchance take them off a dead witch, did you?
> 
> Ha!
> 
> I love riding in non bike specific clothing and shoes.
> 
> Paul in Dallas 
> 
> Paul in Dallas 
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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[Andrew Erman]

Too funny

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Kicked her into the ditch, actually. But only in my sinful thoughts.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 5:44 PM Andrew Erman  <mailto:aer...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
> Patrick, 
> 
> Great story!  Did you really push the lady in the ditch?
> 
> I have an electric bike I used to ride to work (till a few weeks ago, when I 
> switched to riding solely human powered bikes) - I have Zound horn on that 
> bike to use with cars - it will definitely get people’s attention!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Andy
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Patrick Moore > <mailto:bertin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Bells are friendly, but don't work with too many walkers I encounter. Two 
>> instances:
>> 
>> First, was riding along a ditch bank road, saw a couple ahead taking the 
>> width of the path, started ringing my Spurcycle bell 100' in advance of 
>> passing; no reaction, so I passed. Man said, peevishly, "You should ring 
>> your bell." I, already peeved myself, skidded to a stop and said, "I started 
>> ringing it 50 yards back" -- a bit of an exaggeration, but not grossly so. 
>> He replied, "Thanks for ringing." I, mollified, got back on the bike, at 
>> which point the woman, standing next to him, said, peevisly, "You should 
>> have a bell!" I pushed her into the ditch.
>> 
>> A week or 2 later, I was riding north (fast, admittedly, with strong 
>> tailwind) along a ditch road and saw a small crowd walking south, stretched 
>> out across the width of the road. Rang Spurcycle like the dickens from well 
>> in advance of passing; no reaction! I got within 30 feet and deliberately 
>> skidded my rear tire, at which point all looked up in panic and scattered. I 
>> continued on my way with a triumphant and scornful laugh.
>> 
>> I replaced my brass striker bells with Spurcycles at great cost (the black 
>> anodized one was 60 bucks), but sweet and piercing as they are, they don't 
>> have the loud commanding NNNGGG of the large-size strikers. 
>> (Confession: Long, long ago, I used to enjoy using a Zounds! air horn on 
>> clueless pedestrians; tho' only after tiring out my bell thumb. They jumped!)
>> 
>> Seriously, I try to rein in my temper; after all, so many people aren't used 
>> to shared routes. What is annoying is not so much the obstruction as the 
>> cluelessness; and I remind myself that I too am too often not mindful in 
>> other respects -- though I try to be. Mindfulness! It gets you so much more 
>> out of life!
>> 
>> Or I could obey Garth. But there's no fun in that!
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:15 PM Ray Varella > <mailto:rayvarella...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I encounter walkers taking up entire paths quite frequently. 
>> Some ignore bells. 
>> So far, none of them have ignored a skidding tire. 
>> I lock up my rear brake when I’m way behind them, they always turn around 
>> and then move to the side. 
>> I think it’s the impending possibility that someone is about to crash into 
>> them that alerts them. 
>> 
>> Bells are friendly and they work with civilized people. 
>> 
>> Ray
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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[Andrew Erman]

Patrick, 

Great story!  Did you really push the lady in the ditch?

I have an electric bike I used to ride to work (till a few weeks ago, when I 
switched to riding solely human powered bikes) - I have Zound horn on that bike 
to use with cars - it will definitely get people’s attention!

Best,

Andy

> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Bells are friendly, but don't work with too many walkers I encounter. Two 
> instances:
> 
> First, was riding along a ditch bank road, saw a couple ahead taking the 
> width of the path, started ringing my Spurcycle bell 100' in advance of 
> passing; no reaction, so I passed. Man said, peevishly, "You should ring your 
> bell." I, already peeved myself, skidded to a stop and said, "I started 
> ringing it 50 yards back" -- a bit of an exaggeration, but not grossly so. He 
> replied, "Thanks for ringing." I, mollified, got back on the bike, at which 
> point the woman, standing next to him, said, peevisly, "You should have a 
> bell!" I pushed her into the ditch.
> 
> A week or 2 later, I was riding north (fast, admittedly, with strong 
> tailwind) along a ditch road and saw a small crowd walking south, stretched 
> out across the width of the road. Rang Spurcycle like the dickens from well 
> in advance of passing; no reaction! I got within 30 feet and deliberately 
> skidded my rear tire, at which point all looked up in panic and scattered. I 
> continued on my way with a triumphant and scornful laugh.
> 
> I replaced my brass striker bells with Spurcycles at great cost (the black 
> anodized one was 60 bucks), but sweet and piercing as they are, they don't 
> have the loud commanding NNNGGG of the large-size strikers. 
> (Confession: Long, long ago, I used to enjoy using a Zounds! air horn on 
> clueless pedestrians; tho' only after tiring out my bell thumb. They jumped!)
> 
> Seriously, I try to rein in my temper; after all, so many people aren't used 
> to shared routes. What is annoying is not so much the obstruction as the 
> cluelessness; and I remind myself that I too am too often not mindful in 
> other respects -- though I try to be. Mindfulness! It gets you so much more 
> out of life!
> 
> Or I could obey Garth. But there's no fun in that!
> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:15 PM Ray Varella  > wrote:
> I encounter walkers taking up entire paths quite frequently. 
> Some ignore bells. 
> So far, none of them have ignored a skidding tire. 
> I lock up my rear brake when I’m way behind them, they always turn around and 
> then move to the side. 
> I think it’s the impending possibility that someone is about to crash into 
> them that alerts them. 
> 
> Bells are friendly and they work with civilized people. 
> 
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] What have you learned during the isolation?

[Andrew Erman]

I am finding people walking in the middle of the streets of residential 
neighborhoods (even ones that are all apartment buildings) - not to avoid 
anyone, just walking in the middle of the street.  I am presented with the 
dilemma of how to get by them and keep social distance.  I am frankly at a loss 
why people are doing this.  I presume they are afraid of contracting the virus, 
but not of getting hit by a car?  The big bike bell from RBW gets people’s 
attention.  

I am trying not to get too irritated because it ruins my ride.

Andy



> On Apr 25, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Interesting new scars?! Did you get hit by a car???
> 
> I’ve been wanting to chime back in here again about more new things I’m 
> learning. 
> 
> 1. I despise vehicles. I thought I disliked them before but I despise them 
> now. It’s been quieter on the roads and I’ve been enjoying audiobooks with my 
> air pods, and you know what? Cars go screaming by me so loudly that I can’t 
> hear my books. And my Apple Watch alerts me that the decibels I’m 
> experiencing will cause eventual hearing loss. I wonder how many of us have 
> or will have some damage to our hearing from the noise of traffic.
> 
> 2. While I’d never hurt a pedestrian, I am in favor of making them 
> uncomfortable when they deserve it. Now, I am sure some of you will want to 
> chastise me, but don’t bother because it will fall on my increasingly deaf 
> ears.
> 
> I usually have the paths to myself, but in quarantine people are out in 
> droves. Initially, I’d smooth over all the situations where pedestrians were 
> wildly out of etiquette. I was out there apologizing when they were in the 
> wrong lane and I was approaching, more apologizing when they didn’t 
> understand the bell, apologizing when their off-leash dog lunged for me in 
> passing, apologizing if they startled as I passed by...  Now I’m getting 
> tougher out there, because I’ve had enough.
> 
> Last night, I’m on a paved MUP and the couple in front of me (and their dog) 
> are taking up the ENTIRE path. This path is WIDE, meant for two-way traffic, 
> and the couple’s roving was extreme. He’s one one side, she and the dog are 
> on the other and all 3 of them are weaving. Though this MUP is a 2-way, I 
> cannot pass by.  I’m riding uphill and hate to break momentum, but I slow 
> w down and wait for them to notice me. The husband darts off to the 
> right and the wife looks irritated with me and freezes. I ride by silently 
> and slowly, refusing to diffuse the situation with words or a smile.  I’m 
> sure they felt caught off-guard. I’m sure it was uncomfortable. Good. They 
> are on a shared path and they aren’t sharing. After being startled maybe 
> they’ll pay attention and be courteous.
> 
> Now, if you are a child, anything goes. Those little buggers are out there 
> with their scooters, bikes, plasma cars, strollers, wagons and Power Wheels. 
> They’re careening all over and veering and swerving and causing mayhem. 
> 
> And I will smile and wave at them all. 🥰 Go wild, munchkins!
> Leah
> 
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>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf  wrote:
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] In Praise of the Roadini

[Andrew Erman]

I love the way your bike looks!  I have a grilvered colored Roadini with 
Albastache bars.  My bike a joy to ride with the more upright positioning 
compared to the drops I used to have.  May your girlfriend have much joy in 
riding this beauty.  Great color.

Andy

> On Apr 21, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Eric G@rs  wrote:
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> Your Roadini looks great, Robert. I recently finished building my 
> girlfriend's 47cm Roadini and she loves it. She isn't a fan of drop bars so 
> we opted for Wavie bars. I jacked up the saddle and road it a while as well. 
> Kind of makes me want one for myself... 
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