[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[Alexander Chalmers]

Thanks! Really went back and forth on silver vs black, but I'm pleased with 
the end result

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:21:36 AM UTC-6 jad...@gmail.com wrote:

> looks great with the black on the green Miyata.
>
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 10:23:01 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Got some for the Miyata Triple cross I built as a 2 speed a little while 
>> back - I've loved them so far. Easy set up and good performance.
>> [image: PXL_20221020_032052542.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:33:34 AM UTC-6 jad...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> thinking of replacing my Tektro Oryx's (because the sux) with some 
>>> 980's. Like to see how they look in the real world..
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I want to see your Legolases

[Alexander Chalmers]

Bill, is that the Fairweather x Nitto MT-31 stem? If so what bars are you 
using? I love the look of that stem but don't have any 25.4 bars and there 
aren't a ton of options.

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:29:36 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Ah yes! Have some older WI Sugino cranks, too. I really like them. Looks 
> good on your Riv!
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:52:43 PM UTC-7 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Those are ye older White Industries / Sugino 94/58bcd arms (set up 
>> 48/30 as a 94 double)... and which directly lead to the significant 
>> Legolas down-time, after one of the chainring bolt "ears" sheared. 
>> Need to up my crank game, too ("WTB Ritchey 94 metoo!") 
>>
>> Joe 
>>
>> On 11/1/22, Nikko Mendoza  wrote: 
>> > Joe, 
>> > 
>> > I think that looks sick. And these Minimotos are some of the best 
>> braking 
>> > brakes i've used (other than disc hydros). I'd definitelt suggws them, 
>> but 
>> > I'd say building to fit a certain (mtype of riding will help you accept 
>> the 
>> > bike for what it is... a cross bike. I came to terms that I like going 
>> > fast, and I don't like technical dirt. This bike is perfect for that! 
>> > 
>> > What cranks are those? They look like the 110bcd Ritchey Logic cranks. 
>> I'm 
>> > on the hunt for some 94bcd Ritchey Compact cranks at the moment. 
>> > 
>> > Nikko 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> >> On Nov 1, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Nikko, 
>> >> 
>> >> Here's mine from back in its glory days - I really should put some 
>> >> wrench time into getting back into a serviceable shape. 
>> >> 
>> >> https://flic.kr/p/z8k1NT 
>> >> 
>> >> V-brakes might be what it takes for it to win me back but, TBH - I've 
>> >> never been completely happy with the tire clearances / rubber 
>> >> selections I've made, either - 700x42 is the max but x38 with knobs is 
>> >> more realistic. 
>> >> 
>> >> Such a beautiful/great riding/lightweight frame otherwise! Just need 
>> >> to acknowledge that it's a cross bike before anything else, not really 
>> >> the end-all/be-all dirt banger. 
>> >> 
>> >> Joe Bunik 
>> >> Walnut Creek, CA 
>> >> 
>> >>> On 11/1/22, Nikko in Oakland  wrote: 
>> >>> yup, these are the UD 700x42mm Rosés, and certainly the biggest tire 
>> I 
>> >>> can 
>> >>> fit on the bike comfortably. I also think the bike really feels at 
>> home 
>> >>> on 
>> >>> 700x38mm tires, but I don't like the cornering control on steilacoom 
>> >>> tires 
>> >>> vs the Rosés, so I'm sticking to that. If I have to move to slicks in 
>> >>> the 
>> >>> roadie form, I'll probably stick to gravel king/RH 700x35 or 700x38mm 
>> >>> slicks. 
>> >>> 
>>  On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 11:33:57 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote: 
>>  
>>  All of these bikes are gorgeous. How is the clearance with the 42's? 
>>  The 
>>  
>>  legolas is a dream bike for me but have always been curious how wide 
>>  you 
>>  can go if you push it a little. 
>>  
>>  Brian 
>>  
>> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland 
>> > wrote: 
>>  
>> > oh i'm silly. that was a typo! 
>> > 
>> > keeping the RH cranks but changing to Athena 11s shifters and 
>> mechs. 
>> > 
>> > and tires, yes. initially i had Steilacoom/Barlow Pass (700x38mm), 
>> > then 
>> > when i made this my dedicated dirt ride, put on the UD Rosè 
>> (700x42mm) 
>> > and 
>> > they roll surprisingly well. i also like the cornering control in 
>> dirt 
>> > better than Steilacooms AND they corner well on the road too! 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> > On Nov 1, 2022, at 8:02 AM, Richard Rose  
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > First of all, that bike is gorgeous. Athena cranks are swell but 
>> the 
>> > RH 
>> > 
>> > on there is perfect! But, talk about your tires. Rose’? 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> > On Oct 31, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nikko in Oakland  
>>
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hey y'all, 
>> > 
>> > I recently had to let go of one bike, and the Legolas survived the 
>> > cut. 
>> > Now, I'm revamping my legolas to be more road-oriented while still 
>> > dirt 
>> > capable. RIght now, I have 10speed Bar End shifters, RH 46/30t 
>> cranks, 
>> > and 
>> > an 11-36t cassette. It's plenty roadie enough, but I am getting a 
>> set 
>> > of 
>> > 
>> > Athena 11 speed cranks to lean a little bit more into roadie-ness, 
>> and 
>> > throwing on an 11-34t cassette to still stay dirt capable. 
>> > 
>> > But I am here because I need build inspiration. Can y'all share 
>> pics 
>> > of 
>> > your legolas in it's *fastest *state? me first, ya? 
>> > 
>> > I rotated the bars downward a little bit since this photo, but you 
>> get 
>> > the idea. 
>> > 
>> > [image: IMG_9561.jpeg] 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Paul, Nitto, Campagnolo, Wheels, Cages, Bags

[Alexander Chalmers]

Are the prices for tires pre tire or for the entire set?

Also someone should buy that M1377 bar. Got them on my cross bike and they 
are super comfortable, and of course beautiful as usual for Nitto. 

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:59:19 AM UTC-5 S. Greco wrote:

> *Updated with price drops and additional info!*
>
> *Prices do not include shipping - send me a zip and I'll get you a quote.*
>
> *Likely $20-$30 for handlebars & bags, $30 - $50 for wheels, happy to 
> combine for discounts :) **Some pics available here. 
> 
>  More 
> photos available upon request.*
>
> *Open to offers!*
>
> *Nitto:*
>
> - MAP Ahearne 57 Lightly Silver Used $60
>
> - NITTO Noodle 46 Lightly Silver Used $60
>
> - NITTO Noodle 48 New Silver $80
>
> - NITTO M1377 SSB 31.8 54 Silver - Lightly Used $80 - basically the same 
> as the Crust Shaka but 31.8
>
> - CRUST Shaka bar 26.0 54 Silver - New $110
>
>
> *Campagnolo:*
>
> - Campy C-Record-Era Chorus Partial Group Used $250:
>
> Campagnolo Crank 172.5 53/39 Used
>
> Campagnolo Monopaner calipers Excellent Condition
>
> Campagnolo Short Cage Rear Derailleur Used
>
> Campagnolo Front Derailleur 28.6 Used
>
>
> - Campagnolo Chorus Rear Derailleur short cage carbon NOS - 2 available - 
> $200 each
>
> - Campagnolo Veloce CT FD 32.0 clamp NOS $40
>
> - Campagnolo Victory Crankset 170 52/39 Lightly Used $100
>
> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Record Carbon 10 Spd - Lightly Used - $200
>
> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Chorus Carbon 10 Spd- Lightly Used - $180
>
>
> *Paul:*
>
> - Canti-Levers - Black Anodized - old style with the hollow pivot and clip 
> versus the new type with the bearings - 2 sets - Used $100 each.
>
> - Racer M set - Green Anodized - with green spring adjusters and moon 
> units - Lightly Used $575
>
>
> *Wheelsets:*
>
> - 650b Velocity Dyad laced to 32 Hole Mavic MR601 hubs with matching 
> skewers. 130 spaced. SRAM 9 speed cassette. $350
>
> - 700C Pacenti PL23 laced to 36 Hole White Industries MI5 hubs $350
>
>
> *Tires:*
>
> - Used Grand Bois Cypres 30. QTY 3 (700c) - $40
>
> - Usd Grand Bois Cerf 26 QTY 2 (700c) - $40
>
> - Used Grand Bois Hetre 42 QTY 2 (650b) - $40
>
>
> *Bags:*
>
> - Ruth Works 8” Tan/Green Camo $220
>
> - Ruth Works 10” Black Camo $190 - slight tear along one inner pocket.
>
>
> *Cages:*
>
> - King Cages $20 Each - 7 available - buy all 7 for $100 SOLD
>
> - Nitto R Cages $40 Each - 3 available - buy all 3 for $100 SOLD
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 2:00:33 PM UTC-4 S. Greco wrote:
>
>> 36 hole
>>
>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 1:49:15 PM UTC-4 Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>> What’s the spoke count? Thanks…sky
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, S. Greco  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the campy clarification Jingy.
>>>
>>> 700c wheelset is also $350 + shipping
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 9:56:59 AM UTC-4 Jingy wrote:
>>>
 That's not Campy C-Record stuff, it's 1st gen Chorus. But it is 
 C-Record era(late 80's)
 Jim

 On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:37:32 AM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:

> Did i miss the price for mi5 hubpacenti wheelset?
>
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 8:08 AM, S. Greco  wrote:
>
> I made the photo link public, sorry to all that had to request 
> access. I'll be uploading some more photos later, drop me a email if 
> you'd 
> like to see something specific. $190 for the Edelux headlight. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:28:17 AM UTC-4 S. Greco wrote:
>
>> *Prices do not include shipping - send me a zip and I'll get you a 
>> quote.*
>>
>> *Likely $20-$30 for handlebars & bags, $30 - $50 for wheels, happy to 
>> combine for discounts :) **Some pics available here. 
>> 
>>  
>> More photos available upon request.*
>>
>> *Open to offers!*
>>
>> *Nitto:*
>>
>> - MAP Ahearne 57 Lightly Used $70
>>
>> - NITTO Noodle 46 Lightly Used $70
>>
>> - NITTO Noodle 48 New $90
>>
>> - NITTO M1377 SSB 31.8 54 - Lightly Used $80 - basically the same as 
>> the Crust Shaka but 31.8
>>
>> - CRUST Shaka bar 26.0 54 - New $110
>>
>>
>> *Campagnolo:*
>>
>> - Campy C-Record Partial Group Used $300:
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Era Crank 172.5 53/39 Used
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Era Monopaner calipers Excellent Condition
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Short Cage Rear Derailleur Used
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Front Derailleur 28.6 Used
>>
>>
>> - Campagnolo Chorus Rear Derailleur short cage carbon NOS - 2 
>> available - $250 each
>>
>> - Campagnolo Veloce CT FD 32.0 clamp NOS $40
>>
>> - Campagnolo Victory Crankset 170 52/39 Lightly Used $100
>>
>> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Record Carbon 10 Spd - Lightly Used - $250
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Alexander Chalmers]

Never measured the 27s and the bike they were on was stolen a few years
back unfortunately. I'll have to check the 40s and get back to you.

I've only very briefly ridden soma shikoros. They were nice too, though I
have to say i didn't like them as much. They were on wildly different bikes
though and the shikoros were at much higher pressure so not a great
comparison.

In that same size I have a set of mavic all road tires in 35mm to go on
some future build as well. Haven't ridden the 35s yet but i had the same
tires in 30mm that came with a mavic wheelset I bought, and they felt great
too actually. Mavic is definitely not my first thought for tires but they
were a pleasant surprise

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:02 PM Chris Dedinsky  wrote:

> I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair for
> my Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get in
> there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true to
> size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA Shikoro's
> and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels good for a
> road and road-ish rubber radius.
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and
>> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I
>> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest
>> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am
>> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very
>>> soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on
 the Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts?

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie
> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>
> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I
> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>
> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides,
> but I like it for what I've done so far
>
> Adam
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding
>> off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam.
>> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
>> the
>> nuances.
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight!
>>> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth
>>> with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge
 tires on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly 
 well
 off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
 really
 wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those
 slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike
 honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my 
 mind of
 which tire I preferred.

 Andrew
 TN

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
 greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing
> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
> are a
> mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some 
> single
> track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside 
> from
> road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed 
> surfaces?
> I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick 
> Hatcher
> Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>
> Thx!
> Scott - Amherst MA
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't
>> perfect, Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for
>> confidence braking and cornering.

[RBW] Re: Best all-around useful saddlebag?

[Alexander Chalmers]

Recently got a Buffalo Bags Big Buffalo- haven't had a chance to use it 
much but its huge and seems well made. 

I've also been using a Realm Wald basket bag for a while. I have the 
smaller version and it can fit a ton. Not sure if you have a bag for your 
basket already but it definitely expands the capacity. I know people have 
done shorter tours with their basket bags and a few other small bags

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:45:53 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just now seeing this thread, so I thought I would share some thoughts. 
> After trying several of the more common brands you see most folks using 
> these days, here's my ranking on experience:
>
> Carradice Nelson longflap - I bought this direct from the UK (cheaper) 
> after using a "zipped roll" for over a decade. I also bought a QR Bagman 
> support because I ride smaller bikes (54 cm range) and don't have a lot of 
> space between my saddle and rear tire. The Nelson has a good deal of room 
> and I find myself using the extra flap quite a bit on overnights. I added a 
> thin sheet of poly material to the interior to give it some internal 
> stiffening because I don't like floppy bags. The price, reputation, and 
> classic styling of these Carradice bags makes them a good choice, but my 
> main sticking point for daily use is the dang leather straps and metal 
> buckles. I know it's part of the classic charm but I find them annoyingly 
> fiddly and am always wishing for the ease of plastic clip buckles and nylon 
> webbing.
>
> Fabio's Chest - I have a small waxed canvas version, and it's a very 
> handsome, well-made bag. Even the small is more than enough for my 
> bikepacking needs for overnights or multi-day trips (although I'm always 
> running front AND rear bags when bikepacking). The roll-top combined with a 
> long-flap feature is perfect for over-stuffing and still keeping your stuff 
> dry and secure. The side pockets are huge, and I love the ability to close 
> them simply with the velcro tabs OR a nylon buckle if you so choose. The 
> small size also works well as a basket bag when paired with a Wald 137. My 
> only critique of the Fab's Chest is I wish it had an internal dowel for 
> rigidity like the Carradice and BxB offerings. The thin plastic strip sewn 
> into the mounting area is similar to that of the Swift Zeitgeist, but I 
> think these bags are better served with more robust "framework" for 
> stability. When used as a saddlebag, I support it with a Nitto R14 rear 
> rack.
>
> BxB Goldback (SM) - Far and away the best all-around saddlebag I've found. 
> Jay's designs combine all the best elements of the above mentioned bags, 
> and they are the best designed and built bags I've used. I currently own 
> the Goldback, the Teardrop handlebar bag (no longer in production) and a 
> Better Half frame bag. Size-wise, it fits somewhere between a Zeitgeist and 
> the Carradice Nelson. It combines the drawstring cinch interior of the 
> Carradice with a longflap that is designed to wrap over the top edge, 
> keeping the elements out even when stuffed full (something I can't say for 
> the Nelson). Mine came with both an interior and an exterior dowel, and 
> Jay's ample use of daisy-chain loops on the underside and backside of the 
> bag really let you tailor the fit to your bike setup. What the BxB bags 
> seem to excel at is in the rock-solidness of them. Whereas my other bags 
> tend to shift and flop around a bit on rough terrain, all of my BxB bags 
> just stay solid no matter the load. I'm really not sure what accounts for 
> this because they share many of the same mounting features as the other 
> two, but Jay's bags just ride so much better than the others. I can use my 
> Goldback with the Carradice Bagman support, or supported by the R14 rack 
> depending on how much load I need to weigh it down with.
>
> Hope this info helps!
> -Brian
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 1:47:00 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I respect your decision to buy a new bike for your upcoming new bag 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:38 PM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>
>>> Wanted to say a quick thank you for all of these really helpful replies. 
>>> Being my first post, it didn't appear for several days and I sort of lost 
>>> track of this thread. Next thing you know it's a month later and I found 
>>> all of your great answers. Haven't bought a bag yet, but it will surely be 
>>> one of the ones mentioned here. Delayed the purchase as I'm thinking of 
>>> buying a new bike first :)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 1:33:41 PM UTC-6 Drw wrote:
>>>
 Another vote for BagsXbird. I was a perennial saddlebag switcher for 
 years, but my small bxb bag hasn't left the bike since i got it. I also 
 bought a bigger one for overnights/touring. They are expensive but the 
 quality is phenomenal and he's really solved/added some cool and useful 
 details to the standard design. 

 On Tuesday, April 

Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Alexander Chalmers]

Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very soon! 
> I'll let y'all know how they ride. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on the 
>> Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
>>> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>>
>>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I 
>>> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet stuff.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only rides, 
>>> but I like it for what I've done so far 
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding 
 off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. 
 Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the 
 nuances. 

 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with 
> a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
> Scott - Amherst MA
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires 
>> on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well 
>> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
>> really 
>> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
>> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
>> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind 
>> of 
>> which tire I preferred.  
>>
>> Andrew 
>> TN
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
>> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
>>> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads 
>>> are a 
>>> mix of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single 
>>> track. I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from 
>>> road, can you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed 
>>> surfaces? 
>>> I'm considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher 
>>> Pass 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
 Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
 braking 
 and cornering. 
 I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and 
 the Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't 
 go 
 back to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.

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Re: [RBW] Going around in circles with shifters.

[Alexander Chalmers]

I'd just go for STI personally. Rode with downtube shifters for a long time 
and they work well, but the ease of use of STI shifters is hard to beat. I 
never loved shifting from bar ends personally. 

You can find older SRAM 10 speed stuff pretty cheap, and it's all 
compatible with their mountain derailleurs which is nice if you want to run 
a bigger cassette. 

Another couple options would be Gevenalle, or (if you can find them) 
Suntour command butterfly shifters. Never used either personally but they 
seem like cool alternatives to more conventional shift set-ups

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:34:29 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ben — Reading your post two things came to mind. Joe, Jay and Steve 
> mentioned them. Try running longer cables and consider stem shifters. There 
> are lots of the Suntour stem mount shifters on eBay for less than $20. I 
> haven't run them before but I do own some, I think they're pretty cool. 
>
> Do you think you can acclimate to downtube levers? Or is that a 
> dealbreaker, no-go sort of option? 
>
> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 6:56:51 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Ben, after decades of using bar ends I switched  to stem shifters and 
>> haven’t gone back. I really like the short housing  run instead of the very 
>> long housing run under the bar tape. Using older Suntour friction shifters. 
>> Steve
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 9:48 PM Ben Adrian  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all! Just looking for some gear chat.
>>>
>>> I have a Rambouillet with drop bars. I'm finally getting everything 
>>> comfortable, but I've been around the block with my shifters.
>>>
>>> My bike came with 8 speed bar end shifters. However, when I did my first 
>>> configuration I mounted them on the downtube. They worked great. It was 
>>> kind of a bummer to reach down, but I went with it because I loved the 
>>> simplicity and getting the cables off the handlebars. 
>>>
>>> After a while I decided to put them back in the bar ends. I had 
>>> previously used bar ends for a long time, so it felt like home. However, I 
>>> have a front Mark's rack with a basket and the derailleur cables were 
>>> always getting in the way of the front stuff.
>>>
>>> So I just ran the cables fully under the bar tape and that install works 
>>> great to get stuff out of the way, but now my shifting performance is 
>>> pretty bad from the twisty cable runs; much worse than any other 
>>> configurations.
>>>
>>> So, nothing is really broken, but I know it can be better. Wondering if 
>>> I should try again with a new take on the "not under tape" routing. Or try 
>>> downtube again? Or just go nuts and look for a used STI system?
>>>
>>> Let's chat!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Seeking rim input

[Alexander Chalmers]

I've got an odd wheelset that's Surly disc brake fixed-gear hubs laced to 
Velocity Quills. Had them a year or two now, and like them. Highest optimal 
tire width is 47mm according to Velocity, but I'm running 50mm G-Ones and 
they've worked well. Probably wouldn't want to go too much bigger but I 
don't have any more room so that wasn't a concern for me anyway.

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-5 Brent B wrote:

> Crust's Rim Brake Rims are really working out for me on my Atlantis and at 
> $105 per rim, they're a pretty good deal. They're very similar to the 
> Pacenti Brevets, but with a slightly wider profile and without the 
> eyelets. Slightly lighter than Brevets and Velocity Quills. I wouldn't put 
> them on a bike that was going to see a lot of rocky trails, but they're 
> stout enough for normal road/trail touring. Only available in 32h, but they 
> are in stock! 
>
> -Brent
>
> On Thursday, 25 August 2022 at 09:39:57 UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> My currently installed 650 B rims:
>> Velocity Quill, polished 36 hole on my Riv custom.
>> Velocity Cliffhanger, polished 40 hole on my Bombadil.
>> Velocity Cliffhanger, polished 48 hole on my Riv Keven's Mixte Cargo bike.
>> Alex DM-23, silver 40 hole on my Hubbuhubbuh.
>> Alex DM-23, silver 36 hole on my Medium Mountain Mixte.
>> Velocity Cliffhanger, black 36 hole on the rear of my Crustendell 
>> Clementine Clydesdale Cargo Cycle.
>> Velocity Atlas, silver 40 hole on my Rosco Baby.
>>
>> I also have some VO Diagonale, polished 36 hole VO touring wheels in the 
>> stash, I have had them installed on various bike in the past, they were the 
>> 1st wheelset on the Bombadil.
>>
>> All are good. The Velocity Quills are the lightest. Many of my Velocity 
>> rims were custom ordered due some combination of spoke holes and/or 
>> polishing being non-stocked items.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 8:51:15 PM UTC-4 plumber...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone hope you've all enjoyed a casual ride this weekend!
>>>
>>> I'm looking for some input on rims. I recently purchased a Bombadil from 
>>> a member on here and am planning on having new wheels built up. After 
>>> enduring a painful wait I have received my rear hub from White Industries 
>>> front will have a generator. Thankfully they were ahead of the initial 
>>> estimated wait time. I have a set of 48mm RH knobbies that I plan on 
>>> running once the wheels are build but might switch it up.  
>>>
>>> What 650B rims are you running these days? 
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Vern
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Alexander Chalmers]

Yeah, i take it that Bridgestone was an inspiration. I think it was called
the Uno? There is a picture of a prototype somewhere in the bluhg i think.
I like that one a little more. Honestly not sure what i don't love about
the look of this one but the Simpleone logos don't do it for me either.
Maybe I'm just partial to the Quickbeam aesthetic.

Regardless, it looks like it will be a fun bike. Just maybe not the right
one for me

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 10:55 AM Ryan  wrote:

> The headbadge reminds me a little of the one on the singlespeed
> Bridgestone USA proposed before that particular ship sank in 1994; it was
> in one of the Bob Gazettes IIRC. Tried googling this (not very hard)  and I
> didn't find it. I know someone on this list besides Addison Willhite
> scanned all the gazettes a few years ago but I can't find it
>
> I take it that purple will be one of the colors; I wonder what others
> they'll offer
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Also keep in mind - especially those considering internal hubs - the
>> Roaduno will have 120 rear spacing (confirmed in Riv email). It's designed
>> to be a single speed and use a single speed hub.
>> I'm real curious what crank Riv is going to spec on full builds.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown
>> PA wrote:
>>
>>> Today's email mentioned the upcoming Roaduno is kind of like a Clem H
>>> singler. I agree. It's pretty close when you overlay the two. (disclaiming
>>> the 5cm frame size difference.) IN the phot below, my Clem H is ghosted
>>> behind the equally ghosted Roaduno.I like running the Clem H as a uno, and
>>> would rather find another 59 Clem to use as a multi-geared bike than go for
>>> a Roaduno. Although, when he mentioned they would be fully lugged, I could
>>> be swooned into one - er, un...
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> [image: Clemuno .jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

[Alexander Chalmers]

I was pleasantly surprised that the final will be fully lugged. I like the 
sound of the cream headtube as well, and a singlespeed that can run 55mm 
tires sounds awesome.

That said, I find myself getting hung up on the name/decals. I just think 
Roaduno sounds a little silly and the headbadge doesn't do anything for me. 
Pretty bad reasons to not get one, but might be enough for me in this case. 
Anyone else in the same boat? In my own defense, I am hoping to get a 
Quickbeam soon and I think I will prefer the shorter wheelbase on that for 
the riding I do

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> This is turning out better than I'd hoped.  Seeing as how I regret getting 
> tid of my Clem H... AND have a sets of single-speed (and 3-speed) wheels 
> left from my Quickbeam, I don’t think there's a scenario where I don't at 
> least try to get one of these. Starting to save pennies now.
>
> Some nerd observations and questions.  (Hopefully some of you locals can 
> check these out in person, and get some detail):
>
> -  Do we know if these will be 120 OLN rear spacing?
>
> - Why in the world would they not just use the Frank Jones Sr. track ends? 
> Wonder what "found' [an existing product] means.  Has anybody else ever 
> done the sloped dropout thing that allows the brakes to work regardless of 
> wheel position, the way Riv does?)
>
> - Which fork crown do they usually use when there's a target of 55mm  
> tires?  I'm guessing it will not be the Hunqapillar / Clem crown, but that 
> would be great.  Maybe it'll  actually be the Appaloosa fork. (I only 
> wonder because I'm a detail dork and because my favorite-ever tire - the 
> super moto - is a little bigger than 55mm.)  Still, if limited to 55, I'm 
> sure there'll be good options)
>
> - if this one is a 54, and Will says there's a 61 too,  then it sounds 
> like they ARE in fact the same size increments as the Roadini, which means 
> there's a 57 too.  That's the best news of all, for me!   The reason I got 
> rid of my 60 clem was that it was a smidge too big in terms of standover 
> height.  57 should be spot-on, especially if they follow the longer top 
> tube path of the clem L evolution.
>
> Gonna be a long couple of years..
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Joe, I haven't ridden one, but the rivendell step throughs all seem
extremely capable. Actually for a while i thought my first Riv would either
be a Clem L or a Gus - still might be! I love the idea of a really robust
step though for off road use

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 11:24 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I would quibble a bit with the Cheviot and Platypus being pegged as
> 'around town bikes', I think the droptube mixte style tags them (and my
> custom) that way unfairly and probably always will. I owned a Cheviot and
> rode a prototype Platy, they both felt like what my brain understands as a
> lugged steel road bike you could ride all day with not-too-crazy loads. My
> reference is Romulus, Rambouillet and Roadini with slightly longer
> chainstays and a dropped toptube.
>
> Which of course also makes a great around town bike, all Rivs do!
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:31:32 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between
>> bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or
>> Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town
>> as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so
>> much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell
>> evolutionary tree.
>>
>> It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot,
>> Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more
>> in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider
>> migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a
>> little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some
>>> pictures/details?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Alex,

  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first
 generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.

 On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5
 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first
> will likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in
> my size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is 
> calling
> to me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well.
> That Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family 
> is
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this
>> thread.
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through
>> this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There 
>> is
>> a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just
>> one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly
>> after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
>> Taiwan
>> built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter
>> mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus,
>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4
>> alexander...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the
>>> closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently
>>> reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, 
>>> it
>>> got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or
>>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>>
>>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>>
>>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've
>>> wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit
>>> obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its
>>> own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most
>>> though!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Jason - thank you so much for the offer! I'd love to try it some time -
that's a beautiful bike. My riding sounds similar to yours (though no kids
yet!). I do have a cross bike that I use for most road riding i do as well
though, which is why I'm leaning towards something less road-ish like an
Appaloosa or Hunq. Feels like there might be too much overlap otherwise,
though when the CX bike is aluminum and carbon there's probably not too
much danger of that.

Karl - thank you, I'm sure I'll find the right one! Really blown away by
the group so far. Good to know about the wheels, I will keep it in mind if
I do end up with the Quickbeam!

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 6:57 PM Karl Worley  wrote:

> This is one of the many reasons I love this list! Alexander, I hope you
> find your Rivendell! Let me know if you end up with the Quickbeam. I
> believe I still have a brand new set of wheels for one.
>
> Karl
> Nash, TN
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 6:46 PM, Jason  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> I’m also new-ish to Riv, having joined this list about a year back and
> having gotten my first Riv, a 2015 Sam Hillborne, last November. The bike
> has been everything I hoped it would be - comfortable, beautiful,
> dependable, and capable. My riding is 90% as a commuter (around 10 miles
> each way). Other rides are with my little ones in tow, or on mixed terrain
> local trails (Salt Creek Trail and DPRT). Sam’s been great for all this
> stuff. I’ll probably end up exploring a Roadeo and Atlantis at some point,
> but it’s hard to imagine a better bike for my main uses. I guess that puts
> me in the Sam camp with Chris and Rich.
>
> My PBH is similar to yours (87.5) and I’m local to Chicago (live in Oak
> Park, work in River North). I’d be happy to let you ride my Sam sometime if
> you’re interested. Just shoot me a PM.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
> Oak Park, IL
>
> [image: E8B94AFF-7480-446A-BEAF-A2C0DDCF2FC4.jpeg]
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 6:31:32 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> I can't say it rules them all, but I consider my Sam the great in-between
>> bike: Not so off-road as an Appaloosa, not so road-oriented as a Roadeo or
>> Roadini, not so load-bearing as a Bombadil or Atlantis, not so around town
>> as the Cheviot or Platypus - you get it. I don't see it as a compromise so
>> much as it being situated somewhere near the center of the Rivendell
>> evolutionary tree.
>>
>> It's my one bike now, after having a Road Standard, Long Low, Bleriot,
>> Bombadil, and Platypus. I don't go to its tire width extreme, staying more
>> in the 35-40mm width range, and only use a rear rack. I'd consider
>> migrating to a Roadini or Roadeo, but someone recently posted those feel a
>> little stiffer in the ride. I like the double top tube as well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some
>>> pictures/details?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Alex,

  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first
 generation Quickbeam I am passively selling.

 On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5
 alexander...@gmail.com wrote:

> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
> what they have for a while.
>
> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first
> will likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in
> my size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is 
> calling
> to me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well.
> That Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family 
> is
> all still in the city
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Alexander,
>>
>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this
>> thread.
>>
>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through
>> this exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There 
>> is
>> a common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just
>> one Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly
>> after acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a 
>> Taiwan
>> built Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter
>> mode; it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>
>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be 

Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Conway, I am potentially interested! Would you send me some
pictures/details?

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 3:42 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Alex,
>
>  I'm in Chicagoland, I have an 88 PBH, and I have a 58 cm first generation
> Quickbeam I am passively selling.
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be
>> willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is
>> a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see
>> what they have for a while.
>>
>> Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will
>> likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my
>> size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to
>> me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That
>> Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very
>> capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is
>> all still in the city
>>
>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Alexander,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread.
>>>
>>> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this
>>> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a
>>> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one
>>> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after
>>> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built
>>> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode;
>>> it's done everything well for me including brevets.
>>>
>>> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your
>>> needs now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus,
>>> the customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the
 closest I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently
 reached a point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it
 got me wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or
 discontinued, if you could only have one?

 Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?

 Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've
 wanted a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit
 obsessed with the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its
 own way. Mostly just curious what you all find yourself riding the most
 though!

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[RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Karl, I am in Chicago and PBH is 88. If anyone is local and would be 
willing to let me try something out I'd be grateful! I also think there is 
a shop not to far from me that carries them, I've been meaning to go see 
what they have for a while.

Rich, I suspect once I get one more will follow! I think the first will 
likely be something used, so it may just come down to what pops up in my 
size/budget. But who knows, the orange color of the Appaloosa is calling to 
me as well, so if they make more that could end up being it as well. That 
Hillborne looks super fun, love that color and bag setup. Looks very 
capable for Atlanta's hills and potholes - I grew up there and my family is 
all still in the city

On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Alexander,
>
> Welcome to the group! Terrific collection of Rivendells on this thread. 
>
> Not an easy decision to select your first Rivendell. I went through this 
> exercise years ago and landed on a Waterford built Atlantis. There is a 
> common feeling running through Riv owners that says you can't have just one 
> Rivendell. True enough I discovered. A Sam Hillborne followed shortly after 
> acquiring the Atlantis. Others followed: Clem H, Roadeo, and a Taiwan built 
> Homer. All except the Sam have moved on. Pic shows it in commuter mode; 
> it's done everything well for me including brevets. 
>
> My advice is to take your best shot at what you think works for your needs 
> now and dive in. It's likely you won't be disappointed. As a bonus, the 
> customer service rendered by Grant and the crew is outstanding! 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:29:44 PM UTC-4 alexander...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
>> I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
>> point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
>> wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
>> discontinued, if you could only have one?
>>
>> Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
>>
>> Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted 
>> a Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
>> the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
>> just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: One Rivendell to rule them all

[Alexander Chalmers]

Nice pair of platypuses (platypi?)!

Are you running ultradynamico tires? How do you like them? I've been
considering some Cavas for my CX bike

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 2:27 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, how I am loving this thread. JJ’s wife takes the cake with her
> Wilbury/Glorius pair. Love it, love it. See? It’s a perfectly good idea to
> have two of the same bike, and she knows it too! I am so enjoying
> everyone’s photos and descriptions of what they like about their
> Rivendells, keep them coming.
>
> My vote - big surprise - goes to the elegant Rivendell Platypus as well.
> There is no downside to a Platypus. I could not get enough of my raspberry
> Platy so I searched until I found another Platy frame and then built that
> one up to haul. Never be without your Platypus, that’s my motto! I find it
> a great comfort to have a 2nd Platypus; I used to have one bike, a Betty
> Foy, and had a recurring nightmare that it got stolen. My subconscious was
> so distressed over the loss of the bike that by the end of the dream I
> would always miraculously find a spare Betty Foy frame in a box in my
> garage, this making it all ok.
>
> I love the Rivendell mixtes; Rivendell puts the best of what they are into
> their mixte line, I have always thought. And like the product page says,
> all Rivendells are beautiful, but the Platypus is the *most* beautiful
> Rivendell. Not that it suffers practicality on account of its looks - it is
> dead useful and supremely comfortable. I use mine for club rides,
> errand-running, shopping, and pleasure rides. Smart AND beautiful. That’s
> why it’s my favorite.
> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 2:04:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes, Wilbury/Glorius-Betty Foy/Yves Gomez-Cheviot-Platypus. We got here
>> from there.
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 9:49:15 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Love that Hunqapillar! I've never heard of the Wilburt/Glorius but looks
>>> nice - the raw metal is awesome. Looks like the Platypus may be similar,
>>> albeit with a longer wheelbase?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 11:42 AM J J  wrote:
>>>
 I'm with Joel in that I prefer shorter-wheelbase, shorter-chain stay
 Rivendell models, though *shorter* is relative. I favor fully lugged
 models, though it makes sense for Rivendell to have more accessible
 offerings (*accessible* is also relative).

 For me it's the Hunqapillar all the way. It excels at everything I do
 with it, whether unloaded and tossing it around on skinny (haha) 42s or
 hauling 75 pounds of stuff rolling on 55s. It doesn't break a sweat and
 always feels incredibly stable and ready for more.

 For my partner it's the Wilbury/Glorius, from the era preceding super
 long wheelbase step-through models. (Her previous bike had a much longer
 wheelbase, which she found cumbersome and clunky after she road the
 Wilbury.) She loved the Wilbury ride and lovely construction so much that
 she got a companion Glorius in raw metal.

 Leah is not the only one to double down on a step-through she loves!! :)

 [image: Hunqapillar 1.jpeg]
 [image: Wilbury 1.jpeg]
 [image: Glorius 1.jpeg]

 On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 11:58:03 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> I have a Sam Hillborne and a SimpleOne, if I did it all over again,
> I'd go for a Hunqapillar, but, I'd totally be happy with a Appaloosa. I
> also own a Trek 620, Tanglefoot Moonshiner, and a Kogswell PR II.
>
> [image: Hillborne.png]
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[Alexander Chalmers]

Hi all,

I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
discontinued, if you could only have one?

Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?

Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted a 
Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!

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